Most of you commenters don't know that most homeowners want the cheapest price they can get. This pad is fine to park a RV on. It's not a road. I have installed many like this and they have lasted many years. I also compact when the owner wants to pay for it. Right or wrong the person paying the bill sets the quality of work. Just make sure they know up front how you will have to do the job for the price he wants to pay.
Joel Watkins exactly. He was on a budget and I made him something that will work and he was happy he got what he wanted and I was happy to make a little money so it’s all good !
You’re not in the buisness or you just haven’t had the headache or have been sued. The homeowner doesn’t know shit about how to grade a pad out. Otherwise they would do it. Bid the job for what it costs to get it done right otherwise 900 dollars isn’t work the headache it could bring if he blows out the walls.
I secure my railroad ties to the ground by drilling a 1/2" hole through em and driving 2-3 feet of rebar into the ground. Not sure its completely necessary, but it makes me feel better about it!
I did...I did...me me me. :-) At about 9;10. I thought they might have pegged them together to stop this but, what do I know...I'm a Limey! Hahaha. Anyway, I'll carry on watching to see if they do peg them in somehow. Either way, I'm certain it'll be a better job than I could have done.
Just a friendly tip from someone that builds highways and driveways......you should ALWAYS remove the top soil down to the sub base before placing gravel.....reading your comments, money was an issue. A good cost effective way would be to remove the top soil and place it on the back side of the retaining wall to help support it. You then have a better product and no removal costs. As others have stated placing on grass like that it will never set up right and grass will grow through....will also be very sloppy when it rains......looked good tho!
the thing about that is sometimes you dont know whats under the dirt, especially in residential homes. theres always those knuckle draggers that bury a line like 2 inches into the ground and the homeowner ends up footing the bill. i personally would have removed about 6 inches of topsoil added #3 crushed stone and then filled the rest up with that smaller stuff. that job he did there looks like that fabric will be poking through in no time. just my opinion i know it dont mean jack but it makes good banter.
@@mikeoconnell4229 1 call don't work around here in my area, there's stuff buried that the guys don't even know about. And I ain't affraid I'll pull all that shit outta the ground.😂 It's just not financially sane
Agreed that topsoil and sod under rr ties will compact at least a couple inches. But on that slope probably won’t fail. It just means the customer is getting what they are paying for - ie it won’t look as nice in a couple years.
I’m picking this video apart. But he will be ok. The sub grade geo cloth was laid down and Altho not ideal, you wanna lay it in a cut, will suffice for this project.
Good luck with your business ! The key to success is to be honest and do the best job Everytime. You will get your business because of your reputation. It's all up to you !
9:26 I love when employees just stand around and watch after working little bit instead of doing what they can. Theres a pile of gravel up the stone wall that could be levelled out with that shovel of yours.
Use 57 stone at the bottom (spaghetti strainer for drainage) then a medium size crush and run with lye (it's will compact and the lye is a weed barrier) then last 2-3 inches a stone dust (easy grading for level and it will provide great compaction and even better weed barrier) Thanks!
Jason Peters on was on the money. You should have placed pin ties through the sleepers as you can see they pushed out at the bottom with the forward pressure. If he comes in with his big rig, too fast and sudden stops at the bottom, it's gonna push the whole darn thing out.
@@chrisscoggins7296 I'm here for the comments too, anyone who doesn't read them and looking for DIY tips is not that smart, this is where the pros and cons happen. Did you stalk his page or how else do you know his business, that's too much effort even for trolling...ijs
Great Video. Don't listen to the Naysayers. If the customer was Happy and satisfied that's pretty much all that matters. Also most Contractors would have changed your customer a hell of alot more than you did. So Hats off to you for not being greedy.
Dud, I hope you have a day job ! !! This is why small business get a bad reputation , and once they do they never can live the bad reputation down any reach their full potential. If you take on a job you have to do to go above and beyond !!! What's expected is to have it done the right way and if the customer doesn't know then you as a contractor needs to politely educate them on the right way. if they insist in doing something that's not good for the job at hand , then you should turn the job down . You can do 100. Jobs right but one bad job will follow you forever. It's just not all about the money , A good job will get you return jobs with the same customer s and their friends
I would suggest to take a bit more pride in your work - the railroad ties were not aligned, gravel should have been compacted and edges trimmed - your 1/2 day job shows your 1/2 day work ethic - take the time to do it right!!!!
Let's give the guy a break ! He's young and he's going to learn from his mistakes . I give you credit for starting a business . It take guts to get on your own and make it work . I do think you should have removed the grass, before dumping the rock . Good video though ! Good luck and stay positive . Most of these comments are people who want to help you, and see you succeed.
He’s going to learn when those blow out and best case scenario the home owner and him get in a tiff and possibly has him come out and fix it or even worse yet get taken to court because his trailer is on its side because the railroad ties were not properly secured. The customer doesn’t know shit. If they did they would do the job. Bid the customer what it cost to get the job done right. The 900 bucks isn’t worth the time and money if things go south. Atleast you used sub grade cloth, but the swale in the way back could have been an easy fix. Grade the pad and run a plate compactor over it. Secure those ties and you would have been able to thos this in a portfolio for future jobs.
Lonnie Hinceman no one has taught me. I don’t have a dad or grandpa that’s been in the business for 60 years like these haters keep saying. I’m just trying to learn as I go and build up from the bottom.
Great video.....simple and least expensive to just park a trailer or car. I'm off to pick up some gravel to create a 10'x15' parking area in which to wash my cars.
Caleb Wilson Right, wrong or indifferent, I’d secure the RR ties with some rebar spikes. I secure any landscaping ties with spikes and secure to each other with decking screws. It gives me a much better peace of mind to know that they won’t shift on me
yes, i can't believe he didn't spike those in the ground. I am getting ready to build a parking pad to put my enclosed trailer on. Came here to get ideas, but why those we not fastened is beyond me.
What a hack job.... omfg. Excuses that the homeowner don’t care about the thing being level and lower in the back. If the trailer is going to hang out with The back half and the axle won’t be out there by even build that up
Your first mistake was not removing the grass. The owner will have grass growing up through the stones in a month. At 9:08 the weight of your machine pushes your Railroad ties out about two inches.
I understand it’s not the fanciest job, and you did exactly what was asked. I’m wondering, how does it look today? I’m thinking of using a gravel grid over the weed barrier, to make an RV pad. Thank you for the video!
You made a mistake having all of the gravel dumped in one spot. I would have had the dump truck back up onto the ground cloth near the back boards. Then have him unlock the tailgate and start raising the dump bed. It would have been very easy to signal him to go forward slowly as the gravel came out. The dump truck could have done 2/3 to 3/4 of the spreading of the grave...at no additional cost to you. You would have saved time and wear & tear on your equipment by directing the dump truck forward. Please try this on a future gravel dump.
Larry Ehrlich yes that’s called tailgating the rock and I didnt want him to do that here bc the ground was so soft and mainly because there were power lines overhead.
Mike O'Connell I’m sorry you can’t see them but there was a pole to the right of the driveway and the wire went into the house to the right of the garage so the truck didn’t want to back under them and the owner didn’t want to risk breaking the concrete. I’m unaware why you are so concerned about the price? And why’s it such a big deal? The owner is happy and this job was 6 months ago and it’s still fine so.....
This is a real bad instal. Let’s not remove the grass, let’s not secure the railroad ties. Let’s use a torpedo level on a 20 ft run. Wtf. Good thing you documented this so the homeowner can sue you. Lol, wow
Hello there! thanks for your video! I am trying to figure out how to make my own additional parking pad for visitors on the side of my driveway, but it has grass, dirt and rocks and is sloping downwards. Curious, why'd you use crossties instead of blocks? i would need to do some kind of small retaining wall but was thinking blocks. Just trying to do it myself and save some money. Any advice is welcome! Thanks!
@bigp6071 Brother I’m not sure if you noticed but this was 5 years ago and also I discussed with the home owner the risks of backing a 60,000 lb dump truck over a concrete driveway and busting the concrete all to heck. The owner SAID, “I’d rather you back in my yard because I can fix that RATHER than break my concrete driveway.” Also the main power lines were over head from the concrete which means the dump truck couldn’t raise his bed to dump if he were to have backed in the concrete driveway so the only option on this job was to back in the guys yard and he was cool with that. Let me handle my jobs. Yes that was 5 years ago and I was just starting out and things have come a long way since then.
Glad things are going well for you. I was more talking about the bad work. Not so much the ground damage. But that was def from you not the truck. Those marks are from you when you were moving the rocks around. Have a great day.
@@bigp6071 you have a good day too. But sometimes machines make marks in ppls yards. It’s easy to use a rake and smooth it back out but sometimes I don’t point my phone at it and show it. The video is mainly to show my brand new machine working. I am hiring my 7th employee if you’d like an application for a rake boy. Confirmed the area you’re upset about is where the truck backed in and I smoothed it back out with the machine so idk what to tell you
I got the same machine and just getting started in the business . The video helped me , everyone learns somewhere man keep on doing your thing fuck the professional Commenters on here
Not bashing at all, do what you want we deal with frost here in Canada and doing the way you did wouldn't last a month I'm just saying we compact all rock that goes into the ground.. different area.
Crusher rock is almost self compacting. The weight of the skid traveling back and forth is probably getting him 95%+ compaction at that thin of a lift.
Those RR ties will be create an everlasting carcinogenic creosote smell (especially when its hot) for those unfortunate people -- I know because I used them for steps at my house.
solohoh oh for sure! I’ve built many walls from the time I was a kid and they always smelled but this is what the unfortunate homeowner said he wanted so nice try troll.
Sometimes you have to turn these jobs down if the homeowner doesn't want to pay to do it right. Not worth the damage to your reputation when, not if, that bit of work fails.
Man I don't know you (first vid) and you said screw UA-cam.. dude I think you can relate some cool content, but your you're gonna have to endure people's ridicule as well as embrace their support.. I'm not a professional of any sort and not judging at all... but the shift at around 9:10 should tell you a lot.. again keep your dreams and God Bless
I agree with "jsw 98", and if you don't know what you are doing either research how it is supposed to be done Correctly or don't take the job. Buy the correct length level a 4' would be the minimum length and place it in the correct position, on it's narrow side. Don't forget about compacting the stone with a gas powered tamper as the loose stone will pretty quickly move around, and also was away on that slope. I would never use railroad ties as they are soaked in "creasote" which is a cancer causing agent which is why the railroads aren't using them any more. The quality or lack thereof speaks volumes to anyone who sees the work you have done, and either brings in new business or drives them away. This reflects heavily on your work ethic good or bad. Good luck in the future.
Word of advice.. get 1/2 a yard more than you calculate. Tip 2... check your grade measurements more precisely. This wouldn't fly with me. Other than that, it's good to see some entrepreneurship. Oh and remove all grass roots to bare ground 👍
I would not use this video as a marketing tool. And, as a landscaper, I would recommend to the homeowner that they make you fix the lawn. Quality workmanship is #1. You CAN do budget AND quality.
lakemetal1 i know right. This video is video is a joke. His helper is just leaning there against the shovel instead of spreading the pile by the house.
You say the dump truck made them tracks in the yard ,but he backed in and pulled out in the same spot, that yard is tore up all over as if someone drove a track loader all over it trying to fix it but made it worse , I guess it matches your wall looks like shit
First and for most I’m not in this business but I’ve got tons of operator hours on skid steers, loaders,backhoes,tractors etc. I’ve spread probably a couple thousand tons of rock over the last decade or so along with thousands of hours of material handing in some form or fashion....I’m not a pro, but I’m not a diy guy..although the finish product looks good, I hate how it was done start to finish....and it’s going to last maybe one set of seasons...maybe...rain is going to wash, using it is going to wash, and just settling is going to wash...:this looked like a weekend warrior rented a skid steer and fixed himself a pad....your ties are not anchored you didn’t even bare minimum scrape the surface and you just dumped it in the yard..your using a damn digging bucket to spread rock I mean come on, atleast cut you a decent bed to lay the rock in so after the first gulley washer don’t send 100$ worth of rock to the neighbors...
Takes 20 minutes to cut a bed this size then pile the topsoil at the back, but I assume this is what you get when you get up at 830 and go to work....either start using that bucket as it was intend and cut beds are get. Different bucket..
Stfu... I went up there and looked at it the other day and the dude has a 12,000 lb fifth wheel camper now and it looks exactly the same. Nothing is washed away and no grass is growing in it and it’s been almost 2 years ago. Leave this to the professional. I have a picture I can sent to prove it if you’d like to send me your number. I’ve had hundreds of comments telling me how shitty this job is and it gets really old..especially when it’s perfectly fine to this day...
Maybe I exaggerated a little bit on one set of seasons, maybe a couple of years, but definitely gonna start having issues after 2 years especially on the back...left corner where you started....you spend the money to build a pad with ties and dg it hope to god it last 10 years maybe after 5 you notice some wash but not before then
As much as I can appreciate you trying to help teach people, this is not the proper way to do this... I genuinely hope this lasts a long time, but I do have my doubts.
How about investing in plywood so you can drive over that instead of tearing up the grass and making it look like a tractor pull just got done ..... redneck craftsman, don’t care about level, don’t care about prep, don’t care as long as that check don’t bounce .....
We understand it’s not a freeway but that wall won’t hold up. You guys saw it buckle already. You’ve got some good things going for you but I think you should try to put a little more effort in detail.
The helper you had with you should have just not even showed up. Seems like he doesn’t know how to do anything, let alone think for himself 🤔. I agree the price is what you get for certain jobs but there could have been rail road ties that could have been stacked and held in place with rebar and just leveled the ground for a much cleaner look.
It doesn't matter if it's to park his ass! It should still be done right, if you are charging for a job it should be the best you can do no matter what it costs, and if it is a matter of cost then it should be quoted for, if the customer has a budget then you do whatever part of the job to cover the budget but NEVER EVER should you compromise quality. And finally a lot of the comments were COSTRUCTIVE criticism, the guy is trying to earn a buck by doing what he can,I appreciate that but if he's not sure how to do it correctly there are thousands of us out there who will give free expert advice, I would and do. The guy didn't do a shift job he just didn't do it to the best of what he probably is capable of, he didn't seem mentally imparted in anyway he seemed like a nice guy that just WANTED and THOUGHT he had done a top notch job, but didn't, I hope he learns and takes on board as it truly will help his business in the future.
Determining the size of the camper this pad is a horrible idea. However, this guy may know that, but whatever the customer wants to pay for then that's what he gets. I would say this would be great for a pop up camper. This in fact would not be ideal for a larger pull behind, 5th wheel or RV. You would need to put fill dirt in, level it off, compact it good then lay 3in of gravel on top. Either way it looks nicely done it's just not going to last. So, oh well as long as you explained that to the customer and your name isn't tarnished then it's off to the next.
Chris O. Yes this is all he wanted on this one. More or less just wanted the extra driveway space. I have another camper pad vid where we brought in fill.
Man I'd really pissed if you did this at my house. I could almost give you a pass on not removing some of the soil but that make shift wall you build is just horrible. Timbers are all misaligned and pushed out on day1. Go back in 6 months and post up another video. Real hack job.
What and messed the yard up back draging is for ppl that hasint ran a dozer or anything with a bucket I think he did good for what he had to work with but I do agree about the teeth he does need a dirt bucket instead of a rock bucket
Onion NA I’ve always called it filter fabric..it’s really for going behind retaining walls but it goes under mulch beds too. I get it from a place that sells stone/ blocks
Cameron Ward yes I believe they are. Mine is a 2011 Tl250 tier 3 and I agree can’t stand cat or bobcat. Hate the door and small cabs. Plus the controls just feel weird
Part of your job is to save the customer and steer them into the outcome. That would have been stripping down to undisturbed soil, staking and stabilize the RR ties, shooting grade, fixing the yard, since you wanted to lay out fabric do the entire job, call digrite for utility marking. You should be able explain to him the process and tell him why it will provide the best outcome, if he couldn't afford the extra $500 to $600 wait a few more weeks. With all that said about $50 in Rebar and landscape fabric would have made a huge difference. As soft as the yard was, a lawn roller would have fixed the ruts easily. Since you knew it was wet, he could have dumped in the street that would have saved the yard. Pro tip- For about $5 mark area then spray weed & grass killer on area a few days before.
Two separate layers, bigger then smaller rocks with a cloth between, wouldve been better, no ? Sorry to "internet expert" your video. Any gravel, 10 cm thick, would do the job and your driveway is just fine. Its just that two layers prevent compaction / promote drainage / dryness.
Crusher run is great top coat. Shitty for drainage. He needs to have an old timers show him the ropes. The retaining wall was tough to watch. So many major oversights.
Rebar is cheap haha just sayin... and the way these rail ties shift at 9:09 tells me they should have been used. Imagine the retaining wall will give out with 5 years (if the home owner is lucky). If he's smart he'll drill in his own rebar and ask for a refund hahaha
@@cameronward7137 Nice. Maybe asking for a refund was excessive. If you already worked that in to the deal it makes complete sense. I've been watching a lot of videos on gravel pad prep lately because i'm getting ready to prep for a 14 x 26 shed which means I'll need a 15-16 x 27-28 ft gravel pad. I'm a lot more meticulous than this home owner. Thanks for taking the time to upload and share!
John, Teel’s Excavating & Johnny Snowplow Services the trailer was 18k and truck is 9k so I was over the limit by 1000lb so technically yes I needed a cdl. I sold the trailer and have a flatbed truck now that’s under 26k gross so no cod needed. Check out my video where I do a walk around the new truck!
still no matter cheap or not ( you should always do the best job for any amount ( that way he or his friend ( the home owner )will say ( Cameron Ward did a great job on my side RV Pad and ( some other neighbors will want more jobs ( sooo doing the BEST Job is the BEST ( not the cheapest ( I bet your still charging the Home owner plenty for this
I don't disagree that this will work for what you need. I am looking at doing something similar for a camper, hence how I ended up here. Lots of research to be done I think. I did notice at 9:08 the bobcat pushed/compacted the gravel towards the back pushing the railroad ties out....
yingpin18 yes UA-cam has made me well aware that it pushed the ties out lol. It was because the rock was all loose and I was twisting the machine around. Once that rock settles in it compacts like concrete. The heaviest thing that rock will ever see is my machine the day It was spread. I have spoken to the owner recently and he says everything is fine and he is happy with the work I did.
those railroad ties won't last give it a bit of time and they won't be straight and if you were going to put the cloth down you should have did it the whole stretch of the gravel especially since you did it on top of topsoil. Small plate Packer wouldn't hurt either. Probably would have shifted your railroad ties out farther if you had packed it though
I did my parking pad the same way, 26 tons of 3/4". I kept packing it with the bobcat, with a full bucket of gravel in it. I didn't need cross ties, where the gravel met the grass I kept running over it so my mower would not catch the gravels. So far it's holding up good.. Sprayed roundup on it one time so far.
No rebar in the ties is the only real problem I see. I change work around and try to give every customer what they need and want for their money. I won’t budge on safety issues or issues that could potentially get me sued, other than that you sign a contract. Maybe the homeowner didn’t want to pay a few hundred for rebar and is doing it himself you never know. I have seen people spend 150,000 but skimp on stupid shit to save 10 grand and their jobs turned out like shit or good materials were ruined etc...
I like the way you do them they are very interesting to watch. Yeah that tractor impresses me with what it will pick up. I need a loader to be able to load and unload trailers with logs and lumber and be able to take it to farms and get the logs out of the woods and load them on the gooseneck
@@pattonwoodworks ive never owned another brand but ill just say i dont see a reason to change to something else. It does everything i want it to to and its simple.
That’s awesome I’m glad to hear that! I got word today that it’ll be delivered tomorrow afternoon so I am excited to see how it handles the logs. I think it’ll do just fine
Most of you commenters don't know that most homeowners want the cheapest price they can get. This pad is fine to park a RV on. It's not a road. I have installed many like this and they have lasted many years. I also compact when the owner wants to pay for it. Right or wrong the person paying the bill sets the quality of work. Just make sure they know up front how you will have to do the job for the price he wants to pay.
Joel Watkins exactly. He was on a budget and I made him something that will work and he was happy he got what he wanted and I was happy to make a little money so it’s all good !
Michael B B $900 total. Including rock. Also the Coy Pond video probably turned out the best, as far as videos go..
Yesss! I wish more buisness owners offered that option. I need something like this done!
@@MrJansenmike They may be a hack but you are clearly a thief based on your comment.
You’re not in the buisness or you just haven’t had the headache or have been sued. The homeowner doesn’t know shit about how to grade a pad out. Otherwise they would do it. Bid the job for what it costs to get it done right otherwise 900 dollars isn’t work the headache it could bring if he blows out the walls.
Horrible. No sod removal. No large drainage stone. Retaining wall has no drainage. This is someone who half asses a job.
James Horrocks thanks for watching
@@cameronward7137 good answer. We southerners are quite polite.
10tenman10 no one understands I did what the guy wanted to pay for..
@@10tenman10 Yup, that good ole’ fake southern hospitality. Pretty hospitable what he did to that other guy’s lawn, don’t you think?
I secure my railroad ties to the ground by drilling a 1/2" hole through em and driving 2-3 feet of rebar into the ground. Not sure its completely necessary, but it makes me feel better about it!
@@leaht-pu1tm yes, "keying" them 2-3 inches into the ground is preferred.
How difficult is it to drill a 1/2 hole through railroad tie? I heard they were tough
😳 watching this made my brain hurt, I'm sure I'm 10% more stupider 😂😂😂 oh, who else saw the sleepers move ? 🤪
scrooge McDuck hey man! I appreciate the comment and thanks for watching!
I did...I did...me me me. :-) At about 9;10. I thought they might have pegged them together to stop this but, what do I know...I'm a Limey! Hahaha. Anyway, I'll carry on watching to see if they do peg them in somehow. Either way, I'm certain it'll be a better job than I could have done.
@@MrJansenmike how would you have done it
Never ever build a drive like this even if you can’t afford to do it the correct way.
Just a friendly tip from someone that builds highways and driveways......you should ALWAYS remove the top soil down to the sub base before placing gravel.....reading your comments, money was an issue. A good cost effective way would be to remove the top soil and place it on the back side of the retaining wall to help support it. You then have a better product and no removal costs. As others have stated placing on grass like that it will never set up right and grass will grow through....will also be very sloppy when it rains......looked good tho!
Could have removed the topsoil and built up the edges with it.. A laser would have really helped out alot here
the thing about that is sometimes you dont know whats under the dirt, especially in residential homes. theres always those knuckle draggers that bury a line like 2 inches into the ground and the homeowner ends up footing the bill. i personally would have removed about 6 inches of topsoil added #3 crushed stone and then filled the rest up with that smaller stuff. that job he did there looks like that fabric will be poking through in no time. just my opinion i know it dont mean jack but it makes good banter.
@@mikeoconnell4229 1 call don't work around here in my area, there's stuff buried that the guys don't even know about. And I ain't affraid I'll pull all that shit outta the ground.😂 It's just not financially sane
Agreed that topsoil and sod under rr ties will compact at least a couple inches. But on that slope probably won’t fail. It just means the customer is getting what they are paying for - ie it won’t look as nice in a couple years.
Strongly suggest stripping topsoil and grass before putting good material down . Might have to come back and fix it agian
I’m picking this video apart. But he will be ok. The sub grade geo cloth was laid down and Altho not ideal, you wanna lay it in a cut, will suffice for this project.
Good luck with your business ! The key to success is to be honest and do the best job Everytime. You will get your business
because of your reputation. It's all up to you !
Thanks for watching! Business is non stop! Haven’t even slowed down this winter! Trump 2020!
9:26 I love when employees just stand around and watch after working little bit instead of doing what they can. Theres a pile of gravel up the stone wall that could be levelled out with that shovel of yours.
I’m sure you’re a joy to work for. Haha
@@jimmyholcomb2594 My guys don't stand around. And thats why you're an employee...Haha
@@superflyguy218 I can tell by your reply you’re an employee. Attitude like that no one would work for you. Haha
@@jimmyholcomb2594 Tell that to my bookkeeper and employees. Get rid of that low attitude and you may get ahead. Cheers mate
@@superflyguy218 Haha you make no sense. You say “my guys don’t stand around, that’s why your an employee” Sure thing. 👍🏼
I would've freaked when I got home if this was my house
billy greenhorn thanks! Just trying to feed my family
Looks like shit and will fall down in back for sure
Use 57 stone at the bottom (spaghetti strainer for drainage) then a medium size crush and run with lye (it's will compact and the lye is a weed barrier) then last 2-3 inches a stone dust (easy grading for level and it will provide great compaction and even better weed barrier) Thanks!
But always always wet the base and compact every 2 inches or so
Jason Peters on was on the money. You should have placed pin ties through the sleepers as you can see they pushed out at the bottom with the forward pressure. If he comes in with his big rig, too fast and sudden stops at the bottom, it's gonna push the whole darn thing out.
At 9:11 the wall about fell just by putting your skid steer on it
I saw the exact same thing. 👇👎
Dont mind me, Im just here to read these comments.
Then don't comment you troll.
Chris Scoggins shut up key board warrior
@@oscarfernandez2028 you shut up with your part-time shade-tree excavation business.
@@chrisscoggins7296 I'm here for the comments too, anyone who doesn't read them and looking for DIY tips is not that smart, this is where the pros and cons happen. Did you stalk his page or how else do you know his business, that's too much effort even for trolling...ijs
Great Video. Don't listen to the Naysayers. If the customer was Happy and satisfied that's pretty much all that matters. Also most Contractors would have changed your customer a hell of alot more than you did. So Hats off to you for not being greedy.
Dud, I hope you have a day job ! !! This is why small business get a bad reputation , and once they do they never can live the bad reputation down any reach their full potential. If you take on a job you have to do to go above and beyond !!! What's expected is to have it done the right way and if the customer doesn't know then you as a contractor needs to politely educate them on the right way. if they insist in doing something that's not good for the job at hand , then you should turn the job down . You can do 100. Jobs right but one bad job will follow you forever. It's just not all about the money , A good job will get you return jobs with the same customer s and their friends
Mark Albrecht thanks!
I would suggest to take a bit more pride in your work - the railroad ties were not aligned, gravel should have been compacted and edges trimmed - your 1/2 day job shows your 1/2 day work ethic - take the time to do it right!!!!
J R have you read any of the other comments?
Let's give the guy a break ! He's young and he's going to learn from his mistakes . I give you credit for starting a business . It take guts to get on your own and make it work . I do think you should have removed the grass, before dumping the rock . Good video though ! Good luck and stay positive . Most of these comments are people who want to help you, and see you succeed.
He’s going to learn when those blow out and best case scenario the home owner and him get in a tiff and possibly has him come out and fix it or even worse yet get taken to court because his trailer is on its side because the railroad ties were not properly secured. The customer doesn’t know shit. If they did they would do the job. Bid the customer what it cost to get the job done right. The 900 bucks isn’t worth the time and money if things go south. Atleast you used sub grade cloth, but the swale in the way back could have been an easy fix. Grade the pad and run a plate compactor over it. Secure those ties and you would have been able to thos this in a portfolio for future jobs.
Wrong ...Wrong ....Wrong ...I'm sorry but who ever taught you did a terrible Job . This is not the way to install a side parking area .
Lonnie Hinceman no one has taught me. I don’t have a dad or grandpa that’s been in the business for 60 years like these haters keep saying. I’m just trying to learn as I go and build up from the bottom.
Great video.....simple and least expensive to just park a trailer or car. I'm off to pick up some gravel to create a 10'x15' parking area in which to wash my cars.
Anybody else see the back tie rods move, they were secured?
Caleb Wilson what are you talking about?
The “cross ties “ we not secured since they were only 2’ high.
Caleb Wilson Right, wrong or indifferent, I’d secure the RR ties with some rebar spikes. I secure any landscaping ties with spikes and secure to each other with decking screws. It gives me a much better peace of mind to know that they won’t shift on me
yes, i can't believe he didn't spike those in the ground. I am getting ready to build a parking pad to put my enclosed trailer on. Came here to get ideas, but why those we not fastened is beyond me.
epoweredrc bc they didn’t need to be..
What a hack job.... omfg.
Excuses that the homeowner don’t care about the thing being level and lower in the back.
If the trailer is going to hang out with The back half and the axle won’t be out there by even build that up
bjimbosld I think it will be all ok but thanks for watching. I think the country music is what pisses everyone off..
I said to myself. There is no way this is getting positive comments
Your first mistake was not removing the grass. The owner will have grass growing up through the stones in a month. At 9:08 the weight of your machine pushes your Railroad ties out about two inches.
Todd Kratzer thanks
Thats why he put plastic down 😊
great idea, poorly executed
The state of the lawn and his reaction to it surprised me. I would have been upset if my yard was left in a mess like that.
I understand it’s not the fanciest job, and you did exactly what was asked. I’m wondering, how does it look today? I’m thinking of using a gravel grid over the weed barrier, to make an RV pad. Thank you for the video!
Would of done some things different. But if the customer has a tight budget and wants something that will simply work enough This will do :)
Half day work for a sorry ass job
Dude fuck you
What type of posts are they? I've never seen them at home depot they look like 6x6 but also looks like stuff on railroads. where do you get them?
Get ready for tomorrow ??you better fix my damn yard today!!
Why didn't the dump truck driver dump it maybe 10' from the back of the Rail Road Tie Retaining Wall? Would have saved a lot of work?
KarasCyborg we would have needed a tow truck to pull him out of the mud.
@@KarasCyborg theyre huge and heavy. no way theyre carrying those and a full load lmao
theyre truck drivers not laborers lol no way in hell will see you them guys get off their trucks (i dont blame em haha)
You made a mistake having all of the gravel dumped in one spot. I would have had the dump truck back up onto the ground cloth near the back boards. Then have him unlock the tailgate and start raising the dump bed. It would have been very easy to signal him to go forward slowly as the gravel came out. The dump truck could have done 2/3 to 3/4 of the spreading of the grave...at no additional cost to you. You would have saved time and wear & tear on your equipment by directing the dump truck forward. Please try this on a future gravel dump.
Larry Ehrlich yes that’s called tailgating the rock and I didnt want him to do that here bc the ground was so soft and mainly because there were power lines overhead.
Mike O'Connell I’m sorry you can’t see them but there was a pole to the right of the driveway and the wire went into the house to the right of the garage so the truck didn’t want to back under them and the owner didn’t want to risk breaking the concrete. I’m unaware why you are so concerned about the price? And why’s it such a big deal? The owner is happy and this job was 6 months ago and it’s still fine so.....
This is a real bad instal. Let’s not remove the grass, let’s not secure the railroad ties. Let’s use a torpedo level on a 20 ft run. Wtf. Good thing you documented this so the homeowner can sue you. Lol, wow
Thanks buddy.
Hello there! thanks for your video! I am trying to figure out how to make my own additional parking pad for visitors on the side of my driveway, but it has grass, dirt and rocks and is sloping downwards. Curious, why'd you use crossties instead of blocks? i would need to do some kind of small retaining wall but was thinking blocks. Just trying to do it myself and save some money. Any advice is welcome! Thanks!
@@bellacity01 because this is all the homeowner wanted at that time.
That dump truck was one of the fastest I've seen lol
I have to agree with you on that one!!!!
Dude. This is bad man. Not trying to be a hater but you just destroyed that guys yard. My soul actually hurts after seeing this.
@bigp6071 Brother I’m not sure if you noticed but this was 5 years ago and also I discussed with the home owner the risks of backing a 60,000 lb dump truck over a concrete driveway and busting the concrete all to heck. The owner SAID, “I’d rather you back in my yard because I can fix that RATHER than break my concrete driveway.” Also the main power lines were over head from the concrete which means the dump truck couldn’t raise his bed to dump if he were to have backed in the concrete driveway so the only option on this job was to back in the guys yard and he was cool with that. Let me handle my jobs. Yes that was 5 years ago and I was just starting out and things have come a long way since then.
Glad things are going well for you. I was more talking about the bad work. Not so much the ground damage. But that was def from you not the truck. Those marks are from you when you were moving the rocks around. Have a great day.
@@bigp6071 you have a good day too. But sometimes machines make marks in ppls yards. It’s easy to use a rake and smooth it back out but sometimes I don’t point my phone at it and show it. The video is mainly to show my brand new machine working. I am hiring my 7th employee if you’d like an application for a rake boy. Confirmed the area you’re upset about is where the truck backed in and I smoothed it back out with the machine so idk what to tell you
@@cameronward7137no hard feeling man. Glad to hear your business is thriving. Wish you nothing but the best.
Show us a video of your work.
I got the same machine and just getting started in the business . The video helped me , everyone learns somewhere man keep on doing your thing fuck the professional Commenters on here
Why doesn't any of you UA-camrs compact your gravel, waste of time if it doesn't get done properly
pat lescard guess we don’t know what we’re doing.
Why are the UA-cam comment makers always bashing instead of lending a helping hand.. instead of criticism how come you don't give some advice
fishing fresno county thank you! 🙏🙏🙏
Not bashing at all, do what you want we deal with frost here in Canada and doing the way you did wouldn't last a month I'm just saying we compact all rock that goes into the ground.. different area.
Crusher rock is almost self compacting. The weight of the skid traveling back and forth is probably getting him 95%+ compaction at that thin of a lift.
Those RR ties will be create an everlasting carcinogenic creosote smell (especially when its hot) for those unfortunate people -- I know because I used them for steps at my house.
solohoh oh for sure! I’ve built many walls from the time I was a kid and they always smelled but this is what the unfortunate homeowner said he wanted so nice try troll.
Great Video and super helpful for home diy'ers like myself. Thanks!
Sometimes you have to turn these jobs down if the homeowner doesn't want to pay to do it right. Not worth the damage to your reputation when, not if, that bit of work fails.
It’s been there for 5 years now with a 35’ fifthwheel parked in it so.
shit job, but you get what you pay for… im sure the contractor knows this, we’ll blame the cheap ass homeowners….
Thank u
Man I don't know you (first vid) and you said screw UA-cam.. dude I think you can relate some cool content, but your you're gonna have to endure people's ridicule as well as embrace their support.. I'm not a professional of any sort and not judging at all... but the shift at around 9:10 should tell you a lot.. again keep your dreams and God Bless
I agree with "jsw 98", and if you don't know what you are doing either research how it is supposed to be done Correctly or don't take the job. Buy the correct length level a 4' would be the minimum length and place it in the correct position, on it's narrow side. Don't forget about compacting the stone with a gas powered tamper as the loose stone will pretty quickly move around, and also was away on that slope. I would never use railroad ties as they are soaked in "creasote" which is a cancer causing agent which is why the railroads aren't using them any more. The quality or lack thereof speaks volumes to anyone who sees the work you have done, and either brings in new business or drives them away. This reflects heavily on your work ethic good or bad. Good luck in the future.
John C lol thanks but it’s holding up fine and owner is happy.
Word of advice.. get 1/2 a yard more than you calculate.
Tip 2... check your grade measurements more precisely. This wouldn't fly with me. Other than that, it's good to see some entrepreneurship.
Oh and remove all grass roots to bare ground 👍
Kyle Stringfellow thanks. Owner was on a budget on this one so we did the minimum.
Don't he needs a tiny concrete pads for the landing gear on rv trailer...it will sink ?????
Lewis martin I’m sure he could put some 2x12s down.
Why not dump the load of gravel further back so you don't have to move it so far?
Bc there were power lines overhead and truck couldn’t dump.
How dusty is this and how bad will it track inside your rv if this is your temporary home
Too bad the truck didn’t help you out by dumping it a little further back.
Yea the ground was too soft for that
How much did this cost? I definitely need the exact same thing done
two fiddy
@@M70ACARRY cheaper than concrete
It cost a lot to have it removed and done properly. All he did was destroy that guys yard.
I would not use this video as a marketing tool. And, as a landscaper, I would recommend to the homeowner that they make you fix the lawn. Quality workmanship is #1. You CAN do budget AND quality.
It’s not a marketing tool. It’s just a video from 4 years ago of me using my new machine
@@cameronward7137 If you're a business owner and you post a video about a job you do, it's a marketing tool.
@@marykalencik4094 oh ok. Please refer back to pinned comment at the top.
Go get a different job until you learn how to properly install ties and remove organic layer before placing gravel
lakemetal1 I do have another job thanks for the positive input.
lakemetal1 i know right. This video is video is a joke. His helper is just leaning there against the shovel instead of spreading the pile by the house.
Oscar Fernandez 🤣🤣🤣
Why do u want to remove the organic layer first?
@@theehgroup7006 Grass will be growing up through the crush and run in a week
You say the dump truck made them tracks in the yard ,but he backed in and pulled out in the same spot, that yard is tore up all over as if someone drove a track loader all over it trying to fix it but made it worse , I guess it matches your wall looks like shit
No ties to hold down Garden Fabric.
Louis Barksdale no, just the stone.
i want to cover a small garden 21' x 12' can i just put a fabric down with 4'' stone cover. we dont use the area so no traffice
What fabric did you use ?
Invisible fabric
8:30am??? What are you, a banker? Most workman start at 7:00am or as the law allows.
Oh ok 👍 thanks for watching.
@@cameronward7137 lol
Meh... It'll do.
What's average cost on a driveway extension like this.
If you have to ask the price for such an amazing piece of construction skill, then sir, you clearly can't afford it 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤪
the helper isnt doing CRAP ( you would of thought ( a smarter helper would take a rake or shovel and help ( not just stand there
First and for most I’m not in this business but I’ve got tons of operator hours on skid steers, loaders,backhoes,tractors etc. I’ve spread probably a couple thousand tons of rock over the last decade or so along with thousands of hours of material handing in some form or fashion....I’m not a pro, but I’m not a diy guy..although the finish product looks good, I hate how it was done start to finish....and it’s going to last maybe one set of seasons...maybe...rain is going to wash, using it is going to wash, and just settling is going to wash...:this looked like a weekend warrior rented a skid steer and fixed himself a pad....your ties are not anchored you didn’t even bare minimum scrape the surface and you just dumped it in the yard..your using a damn digging bucket to spread rock I mean come on, atleast cut you a decent bed to lay the rock in so after the first gulley washer don’t send 100$ worth of rock to the neighbors...
Takes 20 minutes to cut a bed this size then pile the topsoil at the back, but I assume this is what you get when you get up at 830 and go to work....either start using that bucket as it was intend and cut beds are get. Different bucket..
Stfu... I went up there and looked at it the other day and the dude has a 12,000 lb fifth wheel camper now and it looks exactly the same. Nothing is washed away and no grass is growing in it and it’s been almost 2 years ago. Leave this to the professional. I have a picture I can sent to prove it if you’d like to send me your number. I’ve had hundreds of comments telling me how shitty this job is and it gets really old..especially when it’s perfectly fine to this day...
Cameron Ward how long has it been
Maybe I exaggerated a little bit on one set of seasons, maybe a couple of years, but definitely gonna start having issues after 2 years especially on the back...left corner where you started....you spend the money to build a pad with ties and dg it hope to god it last 10 years maybe after 5 you notice some wash but not before then
And I’m hardly wrong about cutting it out
As much as I can appreciate you trying to help teach people, this is not the proper way to do this... I genuinely hope this lasts a long time, but I do have my doubts.
kyesniper this is all the owner wanted. I am well aware it could have been done a different way.
Cameron Ward k
How about investing in plywood so you can drive over that instead of tearing up the grass and making it look like a tractor pull just got done ..... redneck craftsman, don’t care about level, don’t care about prep, don’t care as long as that check don’t bounce .....
Hollywood5453 plywood under a 60,000lb dump truck?
Looks like shit. Just my thought. And the neighbors grass is ruined
why is it ( you have to hear sad , down Country Depressing songs or any so called music at all
Could a person do it by hand rather than using the machinery to spread the rock?
Where you at bud don't give up
Working!!! No time for videos
We understand it’s not a freeway but that wall won’t hold up. You guys saw it buckle already. You’ve got some good things going for you but I think you should try to put a little more effort in detail.
Ryan Berkoski thanks
The helper you had with you should have just not even showed up. Seems like he doesn’t know how to do anything, let alone think for himself 🤔. I agree the price is what you get for certain jobs but there could have been rail road ties that could have been stacked and held in place with rebar and just leveled the ground for a much cleaner look.
Thanks bud
Too all the negative comments on here. It’s to park a camp trailer on it’s not a freeway
It doesn't matter if it's to park his ass! It should still be done right, if you are charging for a job it should be the best you can do no matter what it costs, and if it is a matter of cost then it should be quoted for, if the customer has a budget then you do whatever part of the job to cover the budget but NEVER EVER should you compromise quality. And finally a lot of the comments were COSTRUCTIVE criticism, the guy is trying to earn a buck by doing what he can,I appreciate that but if he's not sure how to do it correctly there are thousands of us out there who will give free expert advice, I would and do. The guy didn't do a shift job he just didn't do it to the best of what he probably is capable of, he didn't seem mentally imparted in anyway he seemed like a nice guy that just WANTED and THOUGHT he had done a top notch job, but didn't, I hope he learns and takes on board as it truly will help his business in the future.
Hes a young guy starting out and learning the ropes. If all you do is troll looking to spread your negativity shame on you
I like the dark gravel. What kind is beibg used?
Determining the size of the camper this pad is a horrible idea. However, this guy may know that, but whatever the customer wants to pay for then that's what he gets. I would say this would be great for a pop up camper. This in fact would not be ideal for a larger pull behind, 5th wheel or RV. You would need to put fill dirt in, level it off, compact it good then lay 3in of gravel on top. Either way it looks nicely done it's just not going to last. So, oh well as long as you explained that to the customer and your name isn't tarnished then it's off to the next.
Chris O. Yes this is all he wanted on this one. More or less just wanted the extra driveway space. I have another camper pad vid where we brought in fill.
what kind of gravel did you use? Thanks!
AAron Smith crusher run. It’s like non sifted #5s
It’s likely 1 1/4 minus.
Do work... Nice job. Thanks
Then that dump truck was over loaded because a tri axle dump truck can only haul 18 tons
Ok buddy
How much was that job
I don’t remember buddy that was 3 years ago
Yes got that thank you watched
Are those ties just sitting there? Not even drill a hole and drop rebar in. Yeah that will stay, until the wind blows...
TheSoloAsylum rumor has it they are still there...
Man I'd really pissed if you did this at my house. I could almost give you a pass on not removing some of the soil but that make shift wall you build is just horrible. Timbers are all misaligned and pushed out on day1. Go back in 6 months and post up another video. Real hack job.
So much wrong with this. Without the teeth on the bucket you could have at least back dragged your tracks on the lawn.
What and messed the yard up back draging is for ppl that hasint ran a dozer or anything with a bucket I think he did good for what he had to work with but I do agree about the teeth he does need a dirt bucket instead of a rock bucket
What’s the black stuff before the dump truck unloads
Filter fabric, it keeps the gravel from sinking into the mud but still allows water to pass through.
U know good and well you'll need to repair the damage on the neighbors lawn
Ok I’ll head that way right now
How many pounds of gravel was that? I'm looking to do a similar project to park a small tractor and ATV on. Probably 20' x 20'
Andrew Burnett about 37,000lbs
There is no way that was 18.5 Tons from a 3 axel dump truck.
What is that fabric called and where do you get it?
Onion NA I’ve always called it filter fabric..it’s really for going behind retaining walls but it goes under mulch beds too. I get it from a place that sells stone/ blocks
It’s sub grade geo cloth.
Looks good man! How do you like the kubota? They look like nice machines. Looks a lot like my Takeuchi. Thanks for sharing
Cameron Ward yes I believe they are. Mine is a 2011 Tl250 tier 3 and I agree can’t stand cat or bobcat. Hate the door and small cabs. Plus the controls just feel weird
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Part of your job is to save the customer and steer them into the outcome. That would have been stripping down to undisturbed soil, staking and stabilize the RR ties, shooting grade, fixing the yard, since you wanted to lay out fabric do the entire job, call digrite for utility marking.
You should be able explain to him the process and tell him why it will provide the best outcome, if he couldn't afford the extra $500 to $600 wait a few more weeks.
With all that said about $50 in Rebar and landscape fabric would have made a huge difference. As soft as the yard was, a lawn roller would have fixed the ruts easily. Since you knew it was wet, he could have dumped in the street that would have saved the yard.
Pro tip- For about $5 mark area then spray weed & grass killer on area a few days before.
Two separate layers, bigger then smaller rocks with a cloth between, wouldve been better, no ? Sorry to "internet expert" your video. Any gravel, 10 cm thick, would do the job and your driveway is just fine. Its just that two layers prevent compaction / promote drainage / dryness.
Crusher run is great top coat. Shitty for drainage. He needs to have an old timers show him the ropes. The retaining wall was tough to watch. So many major oversights.
Omg that was very painful, I wanted to show them how to play gravel and have to bounce.....
toordog wtf are you talking about?
Rebar is cheap haha just sayin... and the way these rail ties shift at 9:09 tells me they should have been used. Imagine the retaining wall will give out with 5 years (if the home owner is lucky). If he's smart he'll drill in his own rebar and ask for a refund hahaha
Eliyyah R yea great observation and he was putting it in himself. Guess I should have stated that in the video.
@@cameronward7137 Nice. Maybe asking for a refund was excessive. If you already worked that in to the deal it makes complete sense. I've been watching a lot of videos on gravel pad prep lately because i'm getting ready to prep for a 14 x 26 shed which means I'll need a 15-16 x 27-28 ft gravel pad. I'm a lot more meticulous than this home owner. Thanks for taking the time to upload and share!
Eliyyah R I assure you this is not an example of my best work. Thanks for watching though !
It’s all good, it takes a lot of effort to capture and share everything. Most ppl don’t bother to share. Thanks again
Did ya bother putting those cross ties back into place after you pushed them out? You might need a smooth edge bucket....
silvy7717 yes I did. I need to get a smooth one for sure.
+silvy7717 11:13 with give you the answer you seek.
Hi Cameron, do you need a cdl to haul that trailer and machine with the 2500 and gooseneck?
John, Teel’s Excavating & Johnny Snowplow Services the trailer was 18k and truck is 9k so I was over the limit by 1000lb so technically yes I needed a cdl. I sold the trailer and have a flatbed truck now that’s under 26k gross so no cod needed. Check out my video where I do a walk around the new truck!
I’ve been building highways for 57 years and this is one of the best jobs I’ve seen!
If I were building interstate highways I wouldn’t have done it this way and I would hope that I would be paid more for a highway.
still no matter cheap or not ( you should always do the best job for any amount ( that way he or his friend ( the home owner )will say ( Cameron Ward did a great job on my side RV Pad and ( some other neighbors will want more jobs ( sooo doing the BEST Job is the BEST ( not the cheapest ( I bet your still charging the Home owner plenty for this
I don't disagree that this will work for what you need. I am looking at doing something similar for a camper, hence how I ended up here. Lots of research to be done I think. I did notice at 9:08 the bobcat pushed/compacted the gravel towards the back pushing the railroad ties out....
yingpin18 yes UA-cam has made me well aware that it pushed the ties out lol. It was because the rock was all loose and I was twisting the machine around. Once that rock settles in it compacts like concrete. The heaviest thing that rock will ever see is my machine the day It was spread. I have spoken to the owner recently and he says everything is fine and he is happy with the work I did.
those railroad ties won't last give it a bit of time and they won't be straight and if you were going to put the cloth down you should have did it the whole stretch of the gravel especially since you did it on top of topsoil. Small plate Packer wouldn't hurt either. Probably would have shifted your railroad ties out farther if you had packed it though
Zeus yes you are all correct.
I did my parking pad the same way, 26 tons of 3/4". I kept packing it with the bobcat, with a full bucket of gravel in it. I didn't need cross ties, where the gravel met the grass I kept running over it so my mower would not catch the gravels. So far it's holding up good.. Sprayed roundup on it one time so far.
Parking pad has no heavy traffic use. ie: it's not a travel road. It's a parking pad😂
the neighbors yard tho!
Yep! It’s all fucked up now!
No rebar in the ties is the only real problem I see. I change work around and try to give every customer what they need and want for their money. I won’t budge on safety issues or issues that could potentially get me sued, other than that you sign a contract. Maybe the homeowner didn’t want to pay a few hundred for rebar and is doing it himself you never know. I have seen people spend 150,000 but skimp on stupid shit to save 10 grand and their jobs turned out like shit or good materials were ruined etc...
Have you ever done this before ??
Patty J yes why?
somebody paid for this?
Yea your mom
I like your videos a lot. I am in the process of getting a kubota right now and I can’t wait to have it.
Thanks man. I dont put as much effort in the vids as i should. I like your tractor too. You cant beat those older ones like that. 👍👍👍
I like the way you do them they are very interesting to watch. Yeah that tractor impresses me with what it will pick up. I need a loader to be able to load and unload trailers with logs and lumber and be able to take it to farms and get the logs out of the woods and load them on the gooseneck
It sounds like you really like your Kubota then?
@@pattonwoodworks ive never owned another brand but ill just say i dont see a reason to change to something else. It does everything i want it to to and its simple.
That’s awesome I’m glad to hear that! I got word today that it’ll be delivered tomorrow afternoon so I am excited to see how it handles the logs. I think it’ll do just fine
Good job sir, lots of negative comments but hey it will serve the purpose 👍🏻
Nice easy $1600 job 👍🏻
PA Winter Services right I wish!
Cameron Ward Well , $300 in timbers, $400 in stone, $100 for your helper $800 for you and the machine, that’s how I’d sell it.
PA Winter Services I can’t remember exactly but I think it was 1000 total 350 for me
@@cameronward7137 Holy shit how do you not go broke?
Cameron Ward damn son you work for free! Lol
I’m sure it’s hard for any legit business to get residential costumers in your area with those prices!
way up ta
Do what?