I love the concept I am thinking of using it at home it's a fantastic idea but your application is not the correct solution to your problem. Your problem is that a water course is trying to cross your road this solution will just move the soil erosion and silt deposition to a different spot. Your best bet would be to put a ditch and culvert pipe either side of the road you could still do this dig a small channel and run a culvert pipe along the side of your mesh grid. As I said I love the idea but not quite the correct application 20 years as a landscaper and I've never seen this before.
years ago, someone used tires, and stone, and $5 landscape fabric. They cut the sides off the tires, then covered with stone in the driveway. Working for 10+ years without any drama. Near their garage, where they were unloading cars. You cannot even tell where the soft spot was. They had previously just been dumping more and more stone every year, but it was not firming up. At the time you could get 2 ton of local stone, for $20-$25. They powerwashed their old stone, and put it back, then topped off with new stone.
One beach we stopped at in FL had similar soil erosion solution: geogrid. It was actually a diamond shape plastic/poly screen all one piece stretched to fit the area and cut like a chain link fence, ok geo-grid as you mention. Now I need it to work on a hill too. Thanks for sharing your idea.
Even better would be mixed grade, aka crush and run. The fine powder of crush and run helps lock it together. The pipe pieces would help stabilize it for your conditions.
if you don’t cut all the way through the pipe and alternate each side it will leave a tab on each one connecting them together and use zip ties to connect them group too occasionally.
Think like a "Slinky". Slice 80% of pipe diameter. Only one lil piece connecting as you fold the pipe to the right, slice 80% open, then fold left, slice, fold, slice.... On and on, forever. 😂
I like it, though you'd need to flip 180 or turn the pipe 90 degrees for each cut, which might get tricky on a long piece. I am sure I would mess it up too and end up with a 3 dimensional pyramid of rings instead of a flat mat.
Absolutely one of God’s favourites! 🤷🏼♂️. I know you know what I mean! You are doing a real good job when folks reuse your work. I compliment you and see how generous you are by including US when you say, “ remember if you think of something, You Can Do It!” Thanks again n stay well!
Better still is "mechanical concrete" the fancy name for tyre cylinders with their walls cut out. Doesn't crush and extremely strong enough for large heavy trucks and machinery. You can fill them with sand, gravel etc. Lay geo fabric underneath.
I salute you for trying this, but I don't see it working for long, simply because each of the cells can move (down, specifically) independently of the others. When the subgrade turns muddy from water accumulated in the gravel within the cells, why won't your tires just transfer the load right down to almost the same area and cause...slightly more smooth ruts? Now, if you had some ghetto way to splice all those offcuts together, well THAT would be something I'd consider doing. As others have said, a followup after a rainy season would be useful.
Great try. However, the scale is small. I think that the following may happen in 2-3 years: the surrounding soil will absorb the entire structure. Especially if more than one car will drive on this track. I did something similar to myself at the entrance to the yard, but the relatively intense traffic there made a hole again in a few years, nullifying all my efforts.
While this does provide strength, it also collects water and makes it sit until absorbs into the soil below, which will allow the pad to sink. It ould be better to put in a French drain underneath then this on top. The pad to provide strength and allow water to collect and the French drain to get the water out before it can sink in
I was just looking at doing something like this. I purchased 4 100' rolls of the 4" perforated for $7 a roll at a Lowe's clearance sale (6yrs ago). How big was the area you put your geo grid? Thanks for the upload
This happens in my back ally where the garbage trucks squish out the gravel making it a perpetual mud hole. Could i use cut plastic bottles? Or even empty food cans? Wonder if this project could be done by young supervised boys?!
Old car tires cut in half and bolted together and filled with gravel work great for heavy trucks. Cut plastic bottles won't work great cause they won't pass water side to side, just down.
A few questions Apple Drains: 1). How well would this stabilize a soggy area in red clay? I'm trying to prevent my zero turn mower from getting mired up. 2) Could you put top soil over this and grow grass? 3) Is this installation still working well?
Odd voids could be filled with smaller diameter pipe. I like 3" corrugated pipe for some drains, but this looks really good for driveways if it can hold the weight of the car over time. Those plastic geogrids for sale are just far too expensive to be useful.
Is the safety guard taped back and exposed? I saw several times your hand pass near the blade, though, thankfully, the blade wasn't turning. How many DIY'ers could still slash the back of their hands as they move back and forth?
It probably would have cost much less had you done the following Get all the old tires you can find, Cut one of the sides out, Place them in that area and then some, Just fill it with lots of crushed broke or pea type rock
@@appledrains Just go around to the tire companies and garages, and put an ad on kiji , craigs list and you will find lots, Just say you will gladly cart them away ! Then go to the land fill I'm sure they don't want them, if you can use them . By the way, if its that hard to find tires, where do you live ? On some other planet ? ! "?
All interesting, but GEO-cell is not a solution for the problem. You need to solve the problem to use the GEO-cell. I wish you all success. I've been struggling with a driveway problem for years.
Wow what cost apple drains $40 in the USA Well in the UK at BnQ the 20m of perforated 4inch pipe would be £111 and the 4 bags of stone at £1.75 each would be £7 🟰 £118 which is around $138 so that is 3 times more expensive to do in the UK privately from local Depot. We British are been ripped off for everything here on this island If you had to buy the membrane aswell that would be £19.99 for 14m taking you to a grand total of £137.99 🤯
This is not a good application of 'geo-cells'. The real product is meant for grade holding. An aggregate surface high enough to not get mucked in again, set on the fabric base, would do fine. Mechanical compaction would also be good. There is also plastic grass parking grid, meant to replace the aggregate base.
This is not what a geogrid is.... Geogrid got horizontal coherence in each direction, it's called gravel grid, not the same goal. It will get messy too....and while not expensive it's already too much for the time it will be usefull.
I've used the recycle tire method a few times. On driveways that are real really sandy very muddy we keep one side to hold the material but drill holes in it for drainage and cut the other side put down tires open side up and fill full of rock
Pure genius. Thank you for this. We've been looking for a cheap alternative to make a passable road on our property in the mountains of OK. This is just the ticket!
nice. i did my whole driveway 1500 square feet using old carpet for the cloth (free) and plastic pallets that i cut the feet off ($3 each) and connecter to each other with stainless steel zip ties. whole project with stone and gravel $720. 5 years later still working great . the only maintenance is to do a little weed killer each summer. BTW i actually got a permit and had it inspected and passed. they wouldn't let me have a gravel driveway and concrete and blacktop was way too expensive and required storm drain crap .... anyway they accepted a permeable driveway and i even made a brochure presenting the pallets as a commercially available product. they bought it LOL !
i love this guy! would love to see this packaged up and sold... a bunch of bags of gravel show up with a 20' hose, a hacksaw, and a cassette with this voice over.
I found the same type of thing on my farm from guessing about the 1950's. It was made up of 8" long sections of old clay tile forming a large half circle and was where the entrance to a long ago demolished barn sat. Took me a while to figure out what it was but it apparently solved the water problem back in the day.
Considering I sell REAL PERFORATED GEOCELL for 1/6 the price, this makes me laugh. But keep up the innovative thoughts. My calculations resulted in a cost of about $3.00. sq foot without labor and cutting... I manufacture genuine Geocell that is welded strips of HDPE and 4" 30 cell opening Geocell. We sell for less than .50/ sq foot. I will sell you truckloads for .50/sq foot if you want to purchase it...
I have shopped for geocell and found it cost prohibitive. I must be looking in all the wrong places! Can you give me link to your product or where to find the prices you are saying exist?
Great video - I've been looking for an alternative to the pre-fab grids and this a nice alternative and something that provides greater flexibility in non-straight designs. Though, not sure this is cheaper. 100ft of this piping covers 33sq ft at $120 (homedepot), and GeoGrid covers 53sq ft for $127. However, if you stagger and space the piping elements 4" apart, then you essentially double the area, and in that case, it does become cheaper.
An area near where I live, Troutdale Oregon, does this for cheap trails, pathways, alleys, and sidewalks alongside French drains or other drainage ways. There are areas there that have very poor soil stability. On managed forest paths they'll even sometimes do this, but most of the time they use natural materials that build better soil when they break down. The construction workers here do use the store bought methods when they're on a tight schedule, but use your method when on a budget or needing more structure, like a stable, high drainage base for pavers or heavy traffic wear.
@@toritori5835 Logs and living root system methods are what I've seen. They place cut logs in vertically, cover with layers of dirt and gravel; sometimes use a retaining wall of cob, logs, or rocks; then plant native trees and bushes along the sides. By the time the logs decompose, the roots move in to fill the gaps and hold the soil, while the soil mix is made to have good drainage.
Heres your 100 percent recipe w gravel. 1 inch pea gravel. 4 inches track rock. 1 inch sharp 1 inch clean rock. Followed up by 2 inches of quarter or 5/8ths minus. Compact and enjoy a life long gravel road
Mate! I'm from New Zealand and I can say without a doubt you'd fit in here easily. You're a practical genius with this little solution. I'm going to use it down the back of my property, can't wait to try it :)
I'm thinking it would be perfect for the side of the house where we keep the bins. The mud and grass make it annoying to take out the trash. Crushed granite would look nice.
Decades ago i saw an article in Popular Science or Popular Mechanics showcasing a grid product that had just been patented. You could tamp the grid into your lawn and drive over it without rutting the sod. I guess eventually it was called geo-cell. I like yours better...😁😁😁
I came up with an idea like this several years ago for the front of the stairs outside. Leveled ground, heaviest plastic, chicken wire, gravel (decorative stone because it was on clearance) pack down. It's never moved and its been at least 5years😊
Ahhh this is excellent! I have heaps of this drainage pipe that I picked up for free. I was only planning to use the good pieces for drainage but now I can use the rest to stabilise my yard/drive/parking and garden path. Can’t wait to try it! I love reusing waste materials and solving problems :)
@@marielindsay4720it worked for me, that pea gravel is still in the same place 2 years later. It’s not all loose and wonky as before. We even washed the soil off the old pea gravel and added new as needed. One thing I learned is not to go nuts and start digging to the center of the earth. Just use a good quality flat blade shovel to remove grass and don’t disturb the soil or you need to compact it. But for a walkway with foot traffic it is fine.
3-4” 5 corner stone. Tamp it down with an excavator bucket. Leave it alone for a few rainstorms. Come back with 2- stone and tamp that down. Cover with fines and drive over it with tracks of excavator. Problem solved.
Hello from the Big Bend. Looks like N. Florida. I will be using your idea around my new shop. I brought the geotiles for use at my current house. Works good but a couple hundred dollars for a 10x20 area.
nice project...but before all that, I'd have FIRST placed some recycled carpet upside-down after leveling that spot. THEN place your gravel/mulch/shingle tails/.... That carpet "geotextile" will last 500-years, and stand up to nearly-all vehicle traffic. Your welcome, kids :-)
Research how much assorted biocide is in old carpet and you'll never want to touch it again. Carpet leaves the factory drenched in insecticides and fungicides - especially the high quality wool carpets, because otherwise moths and mould adore wool carpet - but then the way carpets absorb and accumulate toxic chemicals in use is just disturbing. It's a quick way to destroy your garden, and it's not something you want in your home either.
We used old carpet for a geotextile fabric. It worked great, even at the barn entrance over a cattle panel. Totally stabilized the soil, no more deep mud pit from cows and horses walking through
I've just used scrap carpet underneath 'weed membrane' before mulching to solve a weed problem. Now I know how to create an adjacent parking area, using. . . MORE scrap carpet of which I have an unlimited supply! This video and resulting Comments have inspired me!
Would you have a link for that? That’s exactly the size I’m looking for. Can’t find that size geo grid for $80. I’m seeing more of the $400 price range. Thanks!
Curiosity didn't k*ll the cat it made me click. WTH is a Geo Cel Grid? Now I know and it's just what I need for this irritating low spot right outside the porch. I tried pavers,gravel,wood chips, nothing works. Your idea sound and looks like it would work. I get my son to do the digging the rest I can do myself. Thank you! You saved my sanity.
One of the Projects to solve Driveway Drainage! Seriously! Less than $50. Little bit of Labor, But I Promise it WORKS!
The real test will be when you do the whole driveway.
I love the concept I am thinking of using it at home it's a fantastic idea but your application is not the correct solution to your problem.
Your problem is that a water course is trying to cross your road this solution will just move the soil erosion and silt deposition to a different spot.
Your best bet would be to put a ditch and culvert pipe either side of the road you could still do this dig a small channel and run a culvert pipe along the side of your mesh grid.
As I said I love the idea but not quite the correct application 20 years as a landscaper and I've never seen this before.
Do you think this system would work here in North east Florida we have sandy soil?
Well.... it was basically free for you because you used existing materials. Well done, you!
Isn't it tronger than that geocell ? That stuff is a thin plastic foldable product.
Your imagination is gold. Hat's off to you Sir.
years ago, someone used tires, and stone, and $5 landscape fabric. They cut the sides off the tires, then covered with stone in the driveway. Working for 10+ years without any drama. Near their garage, where they were unloading cars. You cannot even tell where the soft spot was. They had previously just been dumping more and more stone every year, but it was not firming up. At the time you could get 2 ton of local stone, for $20-$25. They powerwashed their old stone, and put it back, then topped off with new stone.
One beach we stopped at in FL had similar soil erosion solution: geogrid. It was actually a diamond shape plastic/poly screen all one piece stretched to fit the area and cut like a chain link fence, ok geo-grid as you mention. Now I need it to work on a hill too. Thanks for sharing your idea.
It was actually used first for hills to keep from washing away!
brilliant! I have tons of scrap! UA-cam at its best! Im amazed you used had tools! Everybody i know thinks they need a tractor these days.
Even better would be mixed grade, aka crush and run. The fine powder of crush and run helps lock it together. The pipe pieces would help stabilize it for your conditions.
Chuck, you should do an update video on this and how it’s doing
on mining roads they lay down used tyres, tie them together and fill with gravel. the tyres stop the gravel spreading sideways
I’m going to do this on patches of my farm gravel road. Thank you! Great video
Genius solution for a long-standing problem!
Your money saving ideas for the DIY’er are some of the best Chuck!
Thank you!
nicely done. well thought out. simpler and cheaper 2 pockets cement mixed into the soil at same depth . that would stabilize the soil.
Ya dont look a day over 50 Navy! Keep up the great videos Chuck. We are all so appreciative!
if you don’t cut all the way through the pipe and alternate each side it will leave a tab on each one connecting them together and use zip ties to connect them group too occasionally.
That's a great idea
Excellent!!!
i don’t get it and really want to understand!
Think like a "Slinky". Slice 80% of pipe diameter. Only one lil piece connecting as you fold the pipe to the right, slice 80% open, then fold left, slice, fold, slice.... On and on, forever. 😂
I like it, though you'd need to flip 180 or turn the pipe 90 degrees for each cut, which might get tricky on a long piece. I am sure I would mess it up too and end up with a 3 dimensional pyramid of rings instead of a flat mat.
This is straight-up awesome...can go over uneven terrain, and variable width.
Old tiers cut in half also work well. Easter to cut the side wall out thought. Then bolt them together.
That sounds great as well Mr. Erik. 🙏💯
Do a search for 'mechanical concrete'. Use old car tires as geo grid. Old carpet or geo cloth makes it work even better!
A spry 67-year-old! Great job. Thanks
Absolutely one of God’s favourites! 🤷🏼♂️. I know you know what I mean! You are doing a real good job when folks reuse your work. I compliment you and see how generous you are by including US when you say, “ remember if you think of something, You Can Do It!” Thanks again n stay well!
Looks like some time has passed. Will this hold the heavy weight of a propane truck?
Iron knees. 🎉🎉🎉
Great demonstration. Thank you mr. 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Better still is "mechanical concrete" the fancy name for tyre cylinders with their walls cut out. Doesn't crush and extremely strong enough for large heavy trucks and machinery. You can fill them with sand, gravel etc. Lay geo fabric underneath.
I salute you for trying this, but I don't see it working for long, simply because each of the cells can move (down, specifically) independently of the others. When the subgrade turns muddy from water accumulated in the gravel within the cells, why won't your tires just transfer the load right down to almost the same area and cause...slightly more smooth ruts?
Now, if you had some ghetto way to splice all those offcuts together, well THAT would be something I'd consider doing.
As others have said, a followup after a rainy season would be useful.
Coming soon! Spoiler Alert ‼️.. Working better than concrete
I had the same concern when watching this. Heck, It wouldn't take much to tie the things together. Cable ties might even work
Coming soon!
Killer idea - amazing how sometimes the simple things just work
Great try. However, the scale is small. I think that the following may happen in 2-3 years: the surrounding soil will absorb the entire structure. Especially if more than one car will drive on this track. I did something similar to myself at the entrance to the yard, but the relatively intense traffic there made a hole again in a few years, nullifying all my efforts.
Right!! Thanks for your reply
Be a good idea for extra filtration/protection if used on top of a French drain wouldnt it?
Totally outstanding 👏 👌 👍
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Vou usar aqui tubos de PVC de 100mm.
Um abraço!
Cidade de Brumadinho, estado de Minas Gerais, Brasil 🇧🇷
While this does provide strength, it also collects water and makes it sit until absorbs into the soil below, which will allow the pad to sink.
It ould be better to put in a French drain underneath then this on top. The pad to provide strength and allow water to collect and the French drain to get the water out before it can sink in
There is a great French Drain already installed.. this geo cell grid is the best solution and was installed for less than $50
I was just looking at doing something like this. I purchased 4 100' rolls of the 4" perforated for $7 a roll at a Lowe's clearance sale (6yrs ago). How big was the area you put your geo grid? Thanks for the upload
It was 4 inch pipe. Looked like 26 rows by 6.5 (104 x 26 inches)
Awesome project keeps you out of the mud😊
Hi Phillip
Thanks for watching 👍
@@appledrains I always watch your videos they are so helpful
That is a phenomenal idea 💡 wow
Excellent
This is a great DIY project
So here in Texas I used crushed concrete, 50 bucks a ton
Nice!!! 👍
This happens in my back ally where the garbage trucks squish out the gravel making it a perpetual mud hole.
Could i use cut plastic bottles? Or even empty food cans?
Wonder if this project could be done by young supervised boys?!
Old car tires cut in half and bolted together and filled with gravel work great for heavy trucks.
Cut plastic bottles won't work great cause they won't pass water side to side, just down.
And calling it a geo drain it sounds cool
Use tires with side walls cut off
I wonder how well this would work to keep gravel on a slope.
Not well unless you do something to attach the cells to each other. It will all just drift apart.
A few questions Apple Drains:
1). How well would this stabilize a soggy area in red clay? I'm trying to prevent my zero turn mower from getting mired up.
2) Could you put top soil over this and grow grass?
3) Is this installation still working well?
Yes
@@appledrains Excellent! Thank you for the reply!
Filling the voids - why not clip the side of the black cylinder and then compress those instead of using yellow ones?
Ty
Odd voids could be filled with smaller diameter pipe. I like 3" corrugated pipe for some drains, but this looks really good for driveways if it can hold the weight of the car over time. Those plastic geogrids for sale are just far too expensive to be useful.
Great idea
@@appledrains I wonder if old scooter or motorcycle tires could be recycled this way by using them instead.
do you cover it up, or just leave the gravel exposed?
Cover it with the geo fabric and top with your preferred road surface.
good idea but I think I'd do it with sch80 instead. the compressive strength of that corrugated has to be minimal at best. not a fan.
Gotta be 50 feet of pipe used if they are 4 inch long sections.
Nice work. Nailed it.
WalkingWay & DriveWay ~ 'Way Nice Now!' ~ i bet! TY, A.D. !
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Is the safety guard taped back and exposed? I saw several times your hand pass near the blade, though, thankfully, the blade wasn't turning. How many DIY'ers could still slash the back of their hands as they move back and forth?
Yes
I didn't understand what keeps it from sinking into the ground. To me it looks like it will just sink into the ground it a year or two.
It probably would have cost much less had you done the following
Get all the old tires you can find,
Cut one of the sides out,
Place them in that area and then some,
Just fill it with lots of crushed broke or pea type rock
Do you know how hard it is to get that many tires?
@@appledrains Just go around to the tire companies and garages, and put an ad on kiji , craigs list and you will find lots,
Just say you will gladly cart them away !
Then go to the land fill
I'm sure they don't want them, if you can use them .
By the way, if its that hard to find tires, where do you live ?
On some other planet ? ! "?
See it done using tyres with the walls cut off.
All interesting, but GEO-cell is not a solution for the problem. You need to solve the problem to use the GEO-cell. I wish you all success. I've been struggling with a driveway problem for years.
I couldn't help to notice your knees are stronger than the Geo grid n been around much longer than the rotten gravel bags.
Wow what cost apple drains $40 in the USA
Well in the UK at BnQ the 20m of perforated 4inch pipe would be £111 and the 4 bags of stone at £1.75 each would be £7 🟰 £118 which is around $138 so that is 3 times more expensive to do in the UK privately from local Depot. We British are been ripped off for everything here on this island
If you had to buy the membrane aswell that would be £19.99 for 14m taking you to a grand total of £137.99 🤯
This is not a good application of 'geo-cells'. The real product is meant for grade holding. An aggregate surface high enough to not get mucked in again, set on the fabric base, would do fine. Mechanical compaction would also be good.
There is also plastic grass parking grid, meant to replace the aggregate base.
How to make your own!!
Working So Good
Thanks for your input
Anyone else get heart palpitations when the video suddenly went fast? I thought the boy cut his hand
How many times did you say the word, geogrid?🤔
I thought this was battery thing when I clicked on it
Not really sure how thus proves it functions as id imagine the geotextile fabrib woulda done the same by itsekf
Cut somewhere that you don't lose all that plastic dust into the soil.
Smart
Who makes the sun screen shade???
This is not what a geogrid is.... Geogrid got horizontal coherence in each direction, it's called gravel grid, not the same goal.
It will get messy too....and while not expensive it's already too much for the time it will be usefull.
A bridge
Perfect! I was just looking at those textiles of grid for RV pads! It's like 3K for a pad. You just cut my cost drastically!! ❤ it. Thank you
I have seen a similar idea but for a complete road. They used old tyres instead of pipe.[ they cut one wall off the tyre to make it easier to fill ]
I've used the recycle tire method a few times. On driveways that are real really sandy very muddy we keep one side to hold the material but drill holes in it for drainage and cut the other side put down tires open side up and fill full of rock
Good idea!
I'm giving a thumbs up for having real cut-offs.
Florida, mannnnn...
Pure genius. Thank you for this. We've been looking for a cheap alternative to make a passable road on our property in the mountains of OK. This is just the ticket!
Some developing countries cut the side wall off of old tires then fill with road base then either concrete or regular gravel.
nice. i did my whole driveway 1500 square feet using old carpet for the cloth (free) and plastic pallets that i cut the feet off ($3 each) and connecter to each other with stainless steel zip ties. whole project with stone and gravel $720. 5 years later still working great . the only maintenance is to do a little weed killer each summer. BTW i actually got a permit and had it inspected and passed. they wouldn't let me have a gravel driveway and concrete and blacktop was way too expensive and required storm drain crap .... anyway they accepted a permeable driveway and i even made a brochure presenting the pallets as a commercially available product. they bought it LOL !
Which type of plastic pallets did you use?
I'd love to see a video of that
That is hilarious about the pamphlet. That is a real Costanza move I love it
Could you please send info or pictures of plastic pallets?
Thank you
@@sailorjohnboysame here hahaha 😂
i love this guy! would love to see this packaged up and sold... a bunch of bags of gravel show up with a 20' hose, a hacksaw, and a cassette with this voice over.
I want to try this in my 8'X56' outside dog run as a floor. ❤
Is the fabric even needed? Looks like it would slow draining of the area!
It's weed control fabric for the garden, that's design to allow water to drain through.
Just wait till I hire you to do a 24' X 200' driveway for me back in Flagler County cause I like that idea so much LOL!!!!
I found the same type of thing on my farm from guessing about the 1950's. It was made up of 8" long sections of old clay tile forming a large half circle and was where the entrance to a long ago demolished barn sat. Took me a while to figure out what it was but it apparently solved the water problem back in the day.
1850s more like
All natural materials, no plastic, and still there and still working after all that time.
I agree - more like 1850s for that style of construction.
Great info. Ty.
Considering I sell REAL PERFORATED GEOCELL for 1/6 the price, this makes me laugh. But keep up the innovative thoughts. My calculations resulted in a cost of about $3.00. sq foot without labor and cutting... I manufacture genuine Geocell that is welded strips of HDPE and 4" 30 cell opening Geocell. We sell for less than .50/ sq foot. I will sell you truckloads for .50/sq foot if you want to purchase it...
Link please.
I have shopped for geocell and found it cost prohibitive. I must be looking in all the wrong places! Can you give me link to your product or where to find the prices you are saying exist?
Great video - I've been looking for an alternative to the pre-fab grids and this a nice alternative and something that provides greater flexibility in non-straight designs.
Though, not sure this is cheaper. 100ft of this piping covers 33sq ft at $120 (homedepot), and GeoGrid covers 53sq ft for $127. However, if you stagger and space the piping elements 4" apart, then you essentially double the area, and in that case, it does become cheaper.
I wish you long happy healthy life . Thank you for spreading the knowledge, Sir.
Awesome your still a beast at 67. I sure wish I had 30 minutes of your time for questions
An area near where I live, Troutdale Oregon, does this for cheap trails, pathways, alleys, and sidewalks alongside French drains or other drainage ways. There are areas there that have very poor soil stability. On managed forest paths they'll even sometimes do this, but most of the time they use natural materials that build better soil when they break down. The construction workers here do use the store bought methods when they're on a tight schedule, but use your method when on a budget or needing more structure, like a stable, high drainage base for pavers or heavy traffic wear.
What natural materials do they use?
@@toritori5835 Logs and living root system methods are what I've seen. They place cut logs in vertically, cover with layers of dirt and gravel; sometimes use a retaining wall of cob, logs, or rocks; then plant native trees and bushes along the sides. By the time the logs decompose, the roots move in to fill the gaps and hold the soil, while the soil mix is made to have good drainage.
Very interesting I watched just to find out what a geo grid was.
Heres your 100 percent recipe w gravel. 1 inch pea gravel. 4 inches track rock. 1 inch sharp 1 inch clean rock. Followed up by 2 inches of quarter or 5/8ths minus.
Compact and enjoy a life long gravel road
If he had used any amount of gravel, it would not have been as bad, but I did not see any. Maybe he is not allowed to use lots of gravel ???
Drugs are bad@@DocScience2
Mate! I'm from New Zealand and I can say without a doubt you'd fit in here easily. You're a practical genius with this little solution. I'm going to use it down the back of my property, can't wait to try it :)
Same here bro just what I need
Saaame! Definitely some kiwi ingenuity here
I'm thinking it would be perfect for the side of the house where we keep the bins. The mud and grass make it annoying to take out the trash. Crushed granite would look nice.
Yep... yep super boggy in NZ. Am pondering doing it for my Mum's unpaved driveway.
If you live in Florida do yourself a HUGE favor and do this project in Winter.
In Florida is only 2 months. January and February.
Decades ago i saw an article in Popular Science or Popular Mechanics showcasing a grid product that had just been patented. You could tamp the grid into your lawn and drive over it without rutting the sod. I guess eventually it was called geo-cell. I like yours better...😁😁😁
how about an update since its been 7 months. I'd like to see how its holding up after the fall, winter , and spring.
How would a grid of junk tires with the sidewalls removed (filled with gravel) compare with your pipe sections?
Use old tires instead. It's what they do for mining roads. Simply cut one of the sidewalls off and place it. They make a machine to do it for you.
Ive seen the same with old tires. Cut the sidewalls off and put short stainless bolts to connect them.old tires are free.
I came up with an idea like this several years ago for the front of the stairs outside. Leveled ground, heaviest plastic, chicken wire, gravel (decorative stone because it was on clearance) pack down. It's never moved and its been at least 5years😊
Ahhh this is excellent! I have heaps of this drainage pipe that I picked up for free. I was only planning to use the good pieces for drainage but now I can use the rest to stabilise my yard/drive/parking and garden path. Can’t wait to try it! I love reusing waste materials and solving problems :)
Would 2 inch sections work okay for a walkway? I want to make a pea gravel walkway from my driveway to my back deck stairs.
@@marielindsay4720it worked for me, that pea gravel is still in the same place 2 years later. It’s not all loose and wonky as before. We even washed the soil off the old pea gravel and added new as needed. One thing I learned is not to go nuts and start digging to the center of the earth. Just use a good quality flat blade shovel to remove grass and don’t disturb the soil or you need to compact it. But for a walkway with foot traffic it is fine.
Loam is a type of soil. Loom is a device for weaving cloth.
Dig a trench draining away from where the water gathers 🤔
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3-4” 5 corner stone. Tamp it down with an excavator bucket. Leave it alone for a few rainstorms. Come back with 2- stone and tamp that down. Cover with fines and drive over it with tracks of excavator. Problem solved.
Hello from the Big Bend. Looks like N. Florida. I will be using your idea around my new shop.
I brought the geotiles for use at my current house. Works good but a couple hundred dollars for a 10x20 area.
nice project...but before all that, I'd have FIRST placed some recycled carpet upside-down after leveling that spot. THEN place your gravel/mulch/shingle tails/.... That carpet "geotextile" will last 500-years, and stand up to nearly-all vehicle traffic. Your welcome, kids :-)
Research how much assorted biocide is in old carpet and you'll never want to touch it again. Carpet leaves the factory drenched in insecticides and fungicides - especially the high quality wool carpets, because otherwise moths and mould adore wool carpet - but then the way carpets absorb and accumulate toxic chemicals in use is just disturbing.
It's a quick way to destroy your garden, and it's not something you want in your home either.
Like dirty socks you never change or wash.
Super work. I have been working in the same idea. Now my work won't be a test. You be well.
We used old carpet for a geotextile fabric. It worked great, even at the barn entrance over a cattle panel. Totally stabilized the soil, no more deep mud pit from cows and horses walking through
was that with rock over?
I've just used scrap carpet underneath 'weed membrane' before mulching to solve a weed problem.
Now I know how to create an adjacent parking area, using. . . MORE scrap carpet of which I have an unlimited supply!
This video and resulting Comments have inspired me!
Just get junk gravel from a rock pit (it's cheap per yrd) and then have a small dumptruck load dropped and then have it spread out and you're done.
geo grid is $80 for 10 ft x 33 ft at 2 inch depth. Your method is actually more expensive.
Nice!
Pretty sure they recommend a layer of sand below the geocell don't they?
Would you have a link for that? That’s exactly the size I’m looking for. Can’t find that size geo grid for $80. I’m seeing more of the $400 price range. Thanks!
Old tires work well also , on a much larger scale. It does look good.
Curiosity didn't k*ll the cat it made me click. WTH is a Geo Cel Grid? Now I know and it's just what I need for this irritating low spot right outside the porch. I tried pavers,gravel,wood chips, nothing works. Your idea sound and looks like it would work. I get my son to do the digging the rest I can do myself. Thank you! You saved my sanity.