Ice Driving in 911 Rally Cars - /CHRIS HARRIS ON CARS

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  • @ser_loony7137
    @ser_loony7137 6 років тому +25

    from 2:39
    the next twelve seconds have to be one of the best shots in automotive journalism.
    Hats off to you Neil.

  • @Primoz.r
    @Primoz.r 3 роки тому +15

    Here I am, 8 years later, watching this again and still waiting on a separate, in-depth video on competition winter tyres :)

  • @jeffhaynes3246
    @jeffhaynes3246 2 роки тому +1

    I keep coming back to this video. Information, driving even scenery.

  • @Guy_de_Loimbard
    @Guy_de_Loimbard 12 років тому +3

    I'm pleased to say that here in the northern USA we do indeed get to do some ice driving in the winter. Around here we call this "ice trials" and it's basically autocross on a frozen lake. There's a VW Beetle club that always shows up with their clapped-out yet hopped-up Beetles and they do pretty well. This weekend I'll be headed up to Eagle River Wisconsin for the final Ice Trials event of the season. Bring your own car and it costs $60 a day -- hell of a time for the money. :)

  • @ChrisToddRed
    @ChrisToddRed 12 років тому +1

    i just experienced 13 minutes of absolute serenity. I am 19 years old and am currently in college in america studying journalism. As an aspiring automotive journalist and a 911 fanatic, i found that video to be just absolute perfection. Thank you, seriously, THANK YOU Chris Harris for using your talents to write and make videos that quite literally let us experience and live out these fantasies with you. You truly are a hero of mine!
    Perhaps one day ill get to tell you all this in person...

    • @banzairunner7860
      @banzairunner7860 11 місяців тому

      Well, it’s been 10 years. Hopefully you’re in your own 911 by now.

  • @AR1G3
    @AR1G3 10 років тому +45

    I actually found the chat about the studded tires quite interesting...

    • @AR1G3
      @AR1G3 3 роки тому

      @Finnley Kace will you shut up man?

    • @thehrschannel4784
      @thehrschannel4784 2 роки тому

      Yeah I'd like to see the whole video understanding them and the compounds used etc

  • @ricksponsible
    @ricksponsible 10 років тому +1

    Chris Harris, you are my favorite. WAY better than any other test driver, a talent for describing driving dynamic.

  • @LooneyJuice
    @LooneyJuice 12 років тому +3

    You just made my night again, Chris, thanks a million. I was so imponderably sad when it rolled to the credits, it had utterly grabbed me by the nose again. Just brilliant.

  • @jcb8505
    @jcb8505 9 років тому +40

    Porsche dominates everything snow, tar, dirt, mud everything!!!

    • @jcb8505
      @jcb8505 9 років тому +1

      Absolutely love the 911 there is nothing in my eyes that even comes close. Did you see the 2015 RUF RTR 911 with 802 H.P.? It is unbelievable!!!!!!!!!

    • @BChan1991
      @BChan1991 6 років тому

      Air molecules

    • @frogsandbirdsvideos4087
      @frogsandbirdsvideos4087 6 років тому

      B. Chan that was a good call

    • @Shakshuka69
      @Shakshuka69 5 років тому

      Rocks

    • @mchalecm
      @mchalecm 4 роки тому

      Water 💦

  • @robertocop123
    @robertocop123 12 років тому

    The quality in production; the passion in the cinematography/audio etc often exceeds what you get on the TV. The whole thing doesn't turn into a giant music video which the car reviews on Top Gear seem to do, and as much as I will stand by Clarkson et al simply because it is entertaining, it doesn't excite my (admittedly young) car brain the way that Drive videos do. Superb work as always Chris and Neil, and to the rest of the Drive team as well!

  • @Monstretundersengen
    @Monstretundersengen 12 років тому +2

    This is one of the reasons why I like living in Sweden. 3 months of the year, this is what your daily drive to work looks like.

  • @CSKartingTeam
    @CSKartingTeam 12 років тому

    Chris Harris`s contributions to DRIVE are always truly magnificent to behold, and I hope he realises that petrolheads would go to the lengths of the earth to have his job!

  • @thewalrus1968
    @thewalrus1968 12 років тому

    k ...just a sweet video again from Chris... he is by far the best motoring journo/presenter around .... no one can get near him ... true legend !!

  • @hjm175
    @hjm175 12 років тому +4

    Amazing! I'm loving these episodes more and more every time.
    Now I need to go out and drive an old ass Porsche!

  • @alexdb77
    @alexdb77 12 років тому

    Chris Harris...Great Stuff..Massive Car control and as eloquent and geeky as one needs. Great Shots too..I'll put below zero on my vacations list!

  • @kombooch
    @kombooch 12 років тому

    I've watched Drive since it was formulated and I can confidently state that the quality of work in these videos trump ANY other channel on UA-cam, especially the ones associated with magazines. Absolutely top-notch job to everyone who is involved in making these beautiful videos.

  • @seinsmeld13
    @seinsmeld13 12 років тому

    Excellent video Chris. We had near 40 cm of snow last Friday locally. The roads were pretty much free and clear of cars, I had a blast with my 13 S4 fitted with proper winter tires. Agree it's the best driving conditions.

  • @urnxtmistake
    @urnxtmistake 9 років тому +47

    How does this video have so few views, I probably watch it every 3 weeks or so.Superb

  • @zhenpixels
    @zhenpixels 12 років тому +1

    Chris, it is this video that made me realize that a job almost as exciting as yours is sitting next to you on your drives. I envy that job.

  • @mach1_v1
    @mach1_v1 12 років тому

    I definitely believe that the enthusiasm that the people at Drive put into their video material is what ultimately makes this much more engaging and very pleasing for us the car enthusiasts. Here, like Drive says, we celebrate the culture of cars along with them and both the viewers and the people at Drive unite as a whole to indeed enjoy the chance to talk Cars!!!

  • @86Nookie
    @86Nookie 12 років тому

    Been there at that particular time and even took a picture of that orange 911 in front of me. That was my first visit in Sweden and all I can say is that I felt in love with that beautiful winter.

  • @Guy_de_Loimbard
    @Guy_de_Loimbard 11 років тому +1

    There are at least two groups that regularly hold ice trials in the winter. The Central Wisconsin Sports Car Club holds most of their winter events on Dollar Lake in Eagle River; Wisconsin Autosports Group holds most of theirs on Lake Sinnissippi in Hustisford. You're lucky enough to live within a fairly easy shot of both; I can usually only do the ones in Hustisford; Eagle River is just too much of a drive without making a full weekend out of it. Look up both groups on Google for more info.

  • @march11stoneytony
    @march11stoneytony 11 років тому

    I love the background music in Chris Harris On Cars. It really suits how breathtaking the cars are

  • @WezleyB
    @WezleyB 12 років тому

    I learned how to drive on a huge, frozen lake in northern canada. My dad would go ice fishing, and I would go driving. My favorite thing to do was: go as fast as I could and crank the wheel and see how many times I could make it spin around. Many, many hours of fun.

  • @audeamusgaming
    @audeamusgaming 12 років тому

    I know where I'm going come next winter; I've lived in Sweden for more than half of my life yet never truly explored it north of Stockholm. Thank you for highlighting this!

  • @SLTe
    @SLTe 12 років тому +1

    @Xaevi: Yep. Tyres made especially for winter are mandatory in Finland as well. Here it's governed by law from December to February, but one can and should use common sense when temperature drops near or below freezing. And for good reason too: without tyres having special rubber compound (either more common studded or un-studded), driving in winter would be very dangerous if not deadly.

    • @nodical802
      @nodical802 10 місяців тому

      States in the Northern US should do the same, it would make winter driving a lot safer

  • @505197
    @505197 7 років тому

    What I enjoy about driving on a slick track is keeping the car as straight as possible, a light touch on the throttle but going as fast as possible. When I was a lad, getting sideways as far as was possible was my joy in life, but years on a race track honed my appreciation of what it takes to be fast, and sideways just isn't the fastest way. It's a lot of fun though.

  • @amritmcamc
    @amritmcamc 12 років тому

    Loved the honesty of the last bit of the clip- him getting stuck.

  • @coreyberry5283
    @coreyberry5283 11 років тому

    I swear I could listen to Chris talk about cars all day. He's like the Morgan Freeman of auto narration. I guess my enjoyment stems from his his genuine enjoyment of the driving experience and added to that is his skill as a driver.
    (and as an aside, not all of us 'Mericans' are biased toolboxes ;) )
    I have a Nissan 1982 280zx and am restoring a 1969 Olds Cutlass. You'll never cath me watching NASCAR, but I love Rally and F1 racing.

  • @assassin616
    @assassin616 12 років тому

    He wasnt stuttering, he is a smart guy, talking out the points, not rushing, so newbies and people without his knowledge get the point.

  • @ivanovsd
    @ivanovsd 12 років тому +1

    I bought an old 330 just for winter driving, its amazing, I love driving on snow.

  • @austineswann1
    @austineswann1 12 років тому

    I want Chris Harris to give my eulogy. His voice is epically calming.

  • @SquirrelFromGradLife
    @SquirrelFromGradLife 12 років тому

    The old 964 gearbox was actually silky smooth and an absolute dream to handle. It feels as crisp and solid as the trigger on a bolt action Mauser riffle. Finally the gearbox and differential on a 964 is of much higher quality than a 1998 Honda Civic.

  • @photodyl
    @photodyl 12 років тому

    Chris Harris = Man and Machine in perfect harmony.

  • @Mirran87
    @Mirran87 12 років тому +1

    I live in Sweden and it is indeed alot of fun going out the ice, even if its just a Volvo 740!

  • @craigyBow
    @craigyBow 12 років тому

    Beautiful scenery, amazing videography and a craftsman at work. Thank you Drive! :)

  • @vaporazor
    @vaporazor 12 років тому

    Exactly. Titanium is used when very tough and lightweight material is used, but it's also very very expensive. If those studs were completely made out of titanium, they wouldn't cost just 300 euros. Nobody would probably ever make studs made of titanium, probably they would coat them with titanium but that's all. Usually normal studs are made of cemented carbides. Which usually consists of cobalt, tungsten etc.

  • @omblae
    @omblae 12 років тому

    Once again Mr Harris, a fantastic video. Neil and the rest of the guys consistently put together such great compilations that I find myself hoping each time that I open up my UA-cam homepage to see a 'Chris Harris on..' video.

  • @Mattyew
    @Mattyew 11 років тому +1

    I have driven like this in Canadian Forests with side by side cars and it is unbelievable fun! You feel like a rally driver, just watch out for trees

  • @MindDezign
    @MindDezign 3 роки тому

    Winter in Massachusetts in the 70's in a 1600 VW better nobody on the roads, snuggled in their houses. All the streets and round abouts are your race track after fresh snow has fallen. Beat the plows or if it's still snow packed after they plow. He'll go to a mall parking lot before the plows or any large parking lot ,you have your own road coarse till it's time to eat or get more fuel ! Yep yep rear engines in SNOW is a BLAST!
    We even used to do Mall parking lots fresh snow in a 1968 Lincoln continental. Like spinning around on your living room SOFA !

  • @pdpiper
    @pdpiper 12 років тому

    nice little discussion about tyres. Would love to go to that place and give driving on ice a go!!

  • @gooferman609
    @gooferman609 12 років тому

    hell yeah, same here, im glad other people are spreading the word about those guys they are great!

  • @KostasKritsalos
    @KostasKritsalos 12 років тому

    to the man who talks about the tires ... thanks for the info about them !! pro stuff ...

  • @Rebasepoiss
    @Rebasepoiss 12 років тому

    Talking about tyres: the older WRC studded tyres were so good that the grip on snow and ice (and therefore) speed was far greater than on a gravel surface with gravel tyres.

  • @karlsantos
    @karlsantos 12 років тому

    Also, depending on exact alloy elements, it will be more resistant to impacts both on ice and tarmac, which tend to break the studs.

  • @1throrugh9
    @1throrugh9 12 років тому

    It's just what ice driving sounds like, constantly adjusting your throttle inputs to keep the skid. I guarantee you if he was just doing 1-3 rows in a straight line it'd sound awesome.

  • @000Haze
    @000Haze 12 років тому

    Your perspective on what is and isn't cold is warped, Canadian !

  • @RoelSt
    @RoelSt 12 років тому

    "Oh no, not Chris Harris again, sliding around in some crappy old 911..." - said no one ever!
    Awesome vid! Keep it up!

  • @93DracoX
    @93DracoX 12 років тому

    It's fun to watch and I'm sure fun to be driving the Porsche, but there is no curiosity here. I already know what Chris is going to say. It's a 911 and he loves them always. He's got the best job though to be sure.

  • @markotark
    @markotark 12 років тому +1

    I took my Subaru Legacy Diesel for a drive at a local frozen lake and while i knew already that the car was very capable piece of machinery, the car transformed from an economical and comfortable estate car into a rally car that enabled me to do totally controlled power slides around an ice track at 100mph (160kph).
    So, Chris...
    I know the lure of the ice.

  • @FlangeMcGee
    @FlangeMcGee 12 років тому

    this is now on the to do list! Epic, thanks guys, mad skills as always Chris.

  • @12valvepower4
    @12valvepower4 12 років тому

    my wrx is blue ... i went out to dinner in snow not too long ago in it. came back no problem, you see, whie we get snow only rarely here. We have plenty of gravel.mud and snow tires, about a year old. 6 year old subaru wrx, and a full load of family. we went out to dinner across town in it. came back, not a scratch on it.

  • @renebroneinternationalthew8565
    @renebroneinternationalthew8565 10 років тому +2

    *Bravo: 'Great Racing on 'Ice' Again in Sweden! - Cheers & 'Happy New Year!' René :-)*

  • @1MotoXRacer1
    @1MotoXRacer1 10 років тому

    Over here in the 'States, I live in the hilltowns of NY and a nearby lake is frozen over this time of year. These guys use flooding of the lake and some construction equipment to set up ice racing for dirtbikes and snowmobiles. But I've recently taken out my daily driver; a 2005 Sonata V6 and it was such a blast. Yeah it's a FWD sedan but with 'tunes blasting and e-brake drifting it's really something else. The lake is overlooked by a popular restaurant too so it's cool to give people something different to watch.

  • @Sj1bby
    @Sj1bby 12 років тому

    Done some **legal icedriving with a crappy 500euro Coupe Quattro with only M&S tyres, it was the most fun I have ever had in a car. Even more fun than drifting my e28 535i !
    The only problem we found out to have was only 140hp, it was to little, I was not expecting that with awd and snowtires on ice.
    Driving a classic 911 with 250hp and studs must be so awesome!

  • @speedfinder1
    @speedfinder1 11 років тому

    Yes Very nice! I have a 1984 Porsche 3.2 Carrera, of my own and I love driving it when ever I get the chance. I think the cost of doing a day with these wouldn't be in my price bracket!

  • @yardiex
    @yardiex 12 років тому

    Great video UA-cam day. I am in Toronto and I try and avoid these conditions because I don't know anywhere legally or safe to have fun on snow days. Secondly I am from Jamaica and haven't gotten used to or probably will never like the cold.

  • @MagicAyrtonforever
    @MagicAyrtonforever 12 років тому

    Good work Chris.. you know 911's are the best!

  • @L3RK
    @L3RK 12 років тому

    It's good to see Mr. Tuthill, again. The man knows his way around a 911.

  • @xendependant
    @xendependant 12 років тому

    Yeah, well, that's like, your opinion man.
    As someone who drives on snow for half the year, and would like to get even quicker at it, I found the lesson on tires fascinating.

  • @12valvepower4
    @12valvepower4 12 років тому

    i did a autocross on rain in a bmw on falken azenis street tires. dry weather tires, wet track and rear wheel drive. that is fun as hell.

  • @MarkRose1337
    @MarkRose1337 12 років тому

    -17 isn't really cold. It's easy to stay warm in -17 and things work normally. Take it down to -40 and it changes: the engine takes several minutes to warm to normal running instead of seconds, it takes effort to slide the shifter because the transmission lube is so viscous, you'll get frostbite if you grip the wheel with bare hands, and once you're moving you may have to watch your speed if your defrost can't keep up with the chilling wind on the other side of your wind shield. But it's fun!

  • @thethepete731
    @thethepete731 12 років тому

    I'd like to see Chris Harris take Jeremy Clarkson there and convince him of the beauty that is the rear engined Porsche. If nothing else, the driving footage would be epic and totally worth it.

  • @Meatlooaf
    @Meatlooaf 11 років тому

    he is way better than most people at driving...in fact i would say he is a good driver.

  • @HatchBackLove27
    @HatchBackLove27 12 років тому

    In ohio, the amount of snow we have. Its just the same to take our cars to the parking lots and have fun doing this. Probably the most fun I have even had in a car in my life.

  • @spillow762
    @spillow762 11 років тому

    I have done ice drifting in my mustang and I have to agree that ice drifting is the best thing one can do with a car (... an rwd car)

  • @domschinik
    @domschinik 12 років тому

    really great video chris! the section about the tyres is really special. want to your more about tyres!

  • @edalbagem
    @edalbagem 12 років тому +1

    @brickmoosie Thats the sound of the studs rubbing against the body work at full lock.

  • @TopSecretVid
    @TopSecretVid 7 років тому

    iDrive..well back in the day all cars were rear wheels drive and guess what, we all did fine! The old Beetles have the same layout and I have to day my '72 convertible was unstoppable in the snow, seriously!

  • @Xboxracer1
    @Xboxracer1 12 років тому

    That one's not going to hurt mister Harris' legend!

  • @juukame
    @juukame 11 років тому

    I live in Wausau, WI and am so glad I read your comment otherwise I'd have never known about those ice trials.

  • @reekkeel
    @reekkeel 12 років тому

    Chris you should try with non rally type tires on a frozen lake with 1 inch of new snow. Doing 100mph trying to make perfect dough nuts around small islands with a constant 80-90% opposite lock is just as much fun. But you will be fine with stock £ 1500 e30 325i. That was how we learned to hold a drift up in Norway at least. Consider this an invitation from a neighbor. I´m shure you for once will get decent competion. Just dont ask us to drive fast on tarmac, we are useless at that ;-)

  • @lejink
    @lejink 12 років тому

    northern bc, theres a few lakes that have tracks on them. pay $100 and you can race someone else's car a bunch of times.. its like rallycross on ice, the cars are only worth a few hundred bucks each so theres lots of contact everyones super aggressive its awesome!

  • @NicThatRussianGuy
    @NicThatRussianGuy 12 років тому

    Oh man! I would love this! Hand-brake turns don't even compare. I always do little hand-brake turns, but what enthusiast doesn't?

  • @kBIT01
    @kBIT01 10 років тому +20

    Alternatively titled "frogs on ice"

  • @IrishmenV8
    @IrishmenV8 12 років тому

    I live in the Mountians in California, I know what ya mean, driving in the snow and ice is Super fun!

  • @owenyeo
    @owenyeo 12 років тому

    Great episode. I live in Toronto and have some Nokian studded ice tires on my push bike which are simply mind blowing.when it's icy, even compared to the chunkiest of MTB tires.
    Would've liked to have seen a comparison between how the three tires actually handled on the lake. Sure, it would have been a bit gimicky, but what car nerd doesn't want to see how a classic 911 handles with modern WRC snow boots?

  • @JrgsGrg
    @JrgsGrg 12 років тому

    Greets from Finland. Been there, done that, ice racing is MEGA!

  • @invindt531
    @invindt531 12 років тому

    Exactly what I was thinking- but that's why I like it. Half of the shows are Porsche =)

  • @neverwander
    @neverwander 12 років тому

    This really makes me want to refit my grandma's 1971 911T...

  • @lonersanonymous
    @lonersanonymous 12 років тому

    well this is pretty much the greatest thing ever

  • @BeerBourbonBaits
    @BeerBourbonBaits 12 років тому

    Yup! I always bounce back and fourth between Drive and MCM. Like jamdc2000 said, 'who needs tv?'

  • @The_Opinion_of_Matt
    @The_Opinion_of_Matt 12 років тому

    It is just you. What you may be hearing is possibly a "raspyness" coming from the intake or exhaust. However, full on race cars can make a lot of noises that sound strange to people who are accustomed to street cars.

  • @RumblestripDotNet
    @RumblestripDotNet 12 років тому

    no, it's the setting sun, LED lights and the a the lens wide open giving it a short depth of field.

  • @gavinsloma
    @gavinsloma 12 років тому

    this is the best car show in earth

  • @4g63gst96
    @4g63gst96 12 років тому

    Like always Chris, phenomenal video.

  • @Kingsoupturbo
    @Kingsoupturbo 12 років тому

    Yep winter is nice to visit for all you people who don't have it, but you won't like living in it so much

  • @SLTe
    @SLTe 12 років тому

    Seems right. You can hear the sound with his both hands on the wheel, so it's not about changing gears (@ 4:57 for example).

  • @xerox123321
    @xerox123321 12 років тому

    Man, the Drive team is on a roll!

  • @1MrLuar
    @1MrLuar 12 років тому

    I want to try this :) . Chris Harris ROCKS

  • @ToxicHorsePucky
    @ToxicHorsePucky 12 років тому

    Tried to do this on my Veloster Turbo going up an icy road toward my house. Pulled too far on the ebrake, unseated the front bumper, all with dad in the car. Needless to say I'm never doing that again. THIS, however, is the only item on my bucket list.

  • @thompaxton
    @thompaxton 5 років тому

    We ice drive in Georgetown Colorado. This looks awesome!

  • @twotif454
    @twotif454 12 років тому

    Looks like a boatload of fun!

  • @dustinak
    @dustinak 12 років тому

    Awesome. I loved to go do the ice rallyx they do near me with my Talon. I didn't have any studs like you, Chris. Just General Altimax Arctic's and 14 psi. of boost. :D

  • @TimWepunkt
    @TimWepunkt 12 років тому +1

    Gosh I would love to have this 911 :)
    Great video!

  • @FeintMotion
    @FeintMotion 12 років тому

    Walk into woods, find tree, cut tree, stick in snow.
    They're used to define the boundaries of the circuits they make.

  • @revmotor
    @revmotor 12 років тому

    Entertaining and educational. Great work as always.

  • @evo6tmak
    @evo6tmak 12 років тому

    You are correct, they are not Titanium but in fact Tungsten tips, the body of the studs are made of something else, galvanized steel i think but not Titanium.

  • @Leggoeggo101
    @Leggoeggo101 12 років тому

    love the on car angles. nice work on camera shots

  • @SquirrelFromGradLife
    @SquirrelFromGradLife 12 років тому

    You also get to drive those aircooled 911 vintage racing cars specially prepared by Richard Tuthill which is the same guy that built the green Porsche 911 Chris Harris once owned. They're real rally cars with real rally ice tires and renting a rally will normally make your eyes bleed from just looking at the bill.