I just realized I made a mistake with this video and I was wrong when referring to the “Newtons secret law of the Dick to Hand Ratio” it was a mistake it meant to read “Beef must be greater than size of hand”
I disagree, the game was great until the ending. Thor's death was just terribly written, he got one shotted, which just doesnt seem realistic. Better ways to have him die. When thor does die though, his family legitimely does not seem to care. They look like NPC's after witnessing someone they know die. 0 emotion. All of that character development of his daughter telling him she loved him, and him finally seeing that he can change and be like kratos, a better father, down the drain. And dont get me started on the rift, you spend half of atreus getting the mask for it, only for him to break it in the end. Waste of time. Kratos and everyone at one point even say its atreus choice, if it was such a danger to use the mask, kratos would not have given him the choice in the end. The rift could have been a give and take realtionship. It asks for something to give something, could have been a way to find the giants, save brok etc. They went with the most general ass ending ever, playing it very safe with no risks. My last problem with the games ending were the pacing issues and ragnarok. Ragnarok was underwhelming. You only saw the elves fight, no other race was there. It was a 2D path to the lodge, fighting 4 enemies at a time till thor and then odin.
God of war 2018 wasn't building up Tyr to be the Norse version of Kratos. It was building him up to be the opposite of Kratos. "You can either serve yourself or put your godhood in the service of others."
I also think it gives Kratos something to aspire to be and also subtly make him feel inadequate as a role model for Atreus, and thats only brought up more when Odin said Kratos never knew any sort of love from godhood, which is pretty sad and its what makes you genuinely feel happy when fate/prophecy showed that yeah you can be that kind of god too Kratos
Isnt there a moment in the first game that mimir says "tyr was a god of war , but he fought for peace" ? Its almost impossibke to miss this line , these guys just dont pay attention to the story
The Gowr team knew damn well what they were doing when they designing Sif. They're definitely gonna be some spicy images of her floating around on the internet.
so why would people think Tyr was the norse equivalent to Kratos in the first place? he was always depicted as the opposite being a proponent of a peace and love rather than war and vengeance.
Surely people are just being disingenuous. Tyr had not once been depicted as violent. They just heard "god of war" and thought he was Kratos long lost twin brother i guess??
Because leading up to the start of the game, he WAS. He WAS the god of war but he gave it up just like Kratos tried to twice. Kratos’s entire story was focused on not wanting to be the god of war again but also needing to do anything to protect his family, thus pushing him further and further. To have “proof” of someone successfully making the transition to full-fledged pacifist and prove to be entirely useless in the world Kratos and company find themselves in made the twist more impactful imo
My only criticism is that the odin boss fight underwhelming because i expected a clean 1v1 between him and kratos but I have to admit for the story it makes sense that it was a 4v1
"So many characters that arent fleshed out" Kratos finally regain his humanity back and learn how to be more open and merciful towards his enemies, Freya from being a vengeful mother chasing Kratos finally realized there's nothing to gain from revenge but more to gain from forgiveness like FINALLY BECOMING FREE FROM ODIN'S IMPRISONMENT AND REGAINING HER WINGS BACK AS A QUEEN OF VALKERIE. Brok becoming an actual friend to Kratos next to Mimir and dying after sniffing out the lie of Odin and also learns to forgive his brother for lying to him, Sindri turning from being a lovable companion to being a broken man after actually losing everything and the one to actually have a downward character arc. Thor finally standing up to his abuser/dad after sucking all the guilt he has for killing giants. Angerboda despite knowing she would be forgotten in the story still helped Atreus in his quest because she just genuinely wants to help him. Shall i continue?
none of these characters were fleshed out. Thor's redemption arc falls flat and is forced because he's barely in the game and it doesn't work and he doesn't feely guilty about killing the giants and when he gets killed nobody arounds him seems to care. Freya's transformation in such a short time is unconvincing and Angerboda is just a filler character. Brok's death was needless and pointless. Kratos is sad and pathetic and has all the personality of dried up bread etc...there's no fleshing out of any character just incomplete and disjointed things happening
@@cooljool1thor had his redemption to stop fighting and then odin killed him which shows how odin only used thor as a tool and did not see him as his son and did not care for him which contrasts kratos' relationship with atreus by the end of the game
@@karma_v2977 say whatever you wanna but the truth is that this game is a wasted opportunity. Go watch the interviews before the release of the game and you may understand.
Most criticisms I've heard are addressed in the actual game, which tells me people didn't pay attention for whatever reason "Why can't fenrir just make a tear to Asgard?" 'were safe here, in Asgard, but everywhere else...' "Why did sif go from hating Loki to defending Loki immediately?" *Cut to sif clearly trying to convince thor to kill Odin but he took it to mean kill Loki since his head is foggy understandably
@@saidbtk I guess gjallarhorn has something to do with it, after all, it allows all other teleportation methods to asgard possible too, maybe gjallarhorn breaks some kind of protection spell to prevent any teleportation to asgard (except using odin's ravens)
@@saidbtk did think of that afterwards, my answer is, keeping it out was a preventative thing, not a definite thing Basically there was nothing to stop it once it was already in, like a destroyed door, with gallarhorn acting as the other way in to allow it to do so Should've had some dialogue addressed to it to be clear, or I myself may have missed it, but I think what I thought of was satisfactory enough
Subjectively my only issue with frayrs death is that it felt like he totally had time to run out with the rest of the people and also i didnt understand what atreus's stunt was supposed to be because it didn't do anything except get him hurt (but it did feel in character for him to try to do something in that moment) That said, emotionally I would have enjoyed it more if Ingrid had sacrificed itself to save freyr. But that's just me.
Its always a hassle trying to figure out deaths, I assume Birgir surviving was tipping it dangerously close to no casualties in the actual war for the main characters
Atreus didn't try any stunt , he went to go pick up his bow that was on the floor. Watch the clip again you'll see it the bow means a lot to him cuz his mom gave him it
@@Aman-br9ws ohh I didn't know his bow was even on the ground. That's cool okay. That makes much more sense. When that happened I thought he was trying to sacrifice himself to save freyr at first but that didn't make a whole lot of sense. It took me 3 rewatches to realize odin had hidden crows in the closet he used as tyr, i love how neatly packed a lot of details are.
So, Freyr dying is really more just an acknowledgement of the original Ragnarök myth, since he’s supposed to be killed by Surtr specifically. Actually, it’s stated that the reason he died was because he didn’t have his magical unnamed sword with him, so that’s interesting.
Can also add more significance to not only broks death, but his funeral and sindris feelings towards. We know brok died before and didn’t have all his soul bits, so when he died, poof, that’s it. No afterlife. So the funeral given to brok was a typical Norse/Viking funeral, placed on a boat and drifted out. The boat is significant in that the Norse did this to allow “safe passage” to the afterlife. So us knowing this, means Sindri knows this. He’s giving his brother without a soul with no way to get to the afterlife a funeral that means absolutely nothing as there’s no afterlife for brok. The other dwarves may not know or understand this, but Sindri does. The funeral, in essence, was useless to sindri, provides no closure, no relief knowing his brother is safe in the afterlife, and further drives home the fact that Sindri will never again be with his brother, ever, eternally. And that part of broks finality lies squarely on himself, and he knows it. That’s why there’s no comfort in the funeral for Sindri.
The actual objective (and subjective) problems I can come up with is camera tends to screw you over in combat, NPCs give you hints almost immediately, a glitch where Atreus says the same line over and over, parts going on too long, a lot of times when the story is picking up pace it slows down for side characters depth, Sif not hating you quickly and acting like she didn’t just send Thor after Loki like a dog, and Thrud switches to your side really quickly during Ragnorok (I can see her not caring about her brothers because grandpa says and acts like they’re useless so it doesn’t matter to her and IG I can see why she doesn’t hate him from the get go) I still don’t think it completely ruins the game but def hurts or hinders it.
About it he Sif part, she was telling Thor to defy the All father after he ruined their family instead Thor misunderstood and went after Atreus. That's what he explains in this video.
Sif wanted Loki locked up but as soon as Odin stepped over her and treated her the way he did, she wanted Thor to stand up against Odin. She was not sending him to attack Loki though Thor's emotions got the better of him.
The new GOW games were both amazing! Reviews like those boggle my mind to no end. "Did you actually play the game? Did you watch it? Were you awake during it? Did you pay attention to anything going on?" I want to ask them these questions. "Too many characters introduced...." Oh wonderful. Thank you. Writers, please keep your stories focused on two characters at most and one plot point from now on. .>
Okay but let’s not lie to ourselves that the Atreus section with Angrboda where the only thing you really do is bully weak enemies, walk around and do light platforming and is essentially an hour and a half of cutscene like gameplay wasn’t either boring or overall just going to make replaying the game a chore eventually.
The biggest part was when they introduced a handful of characters and when that one guy with the sword sacrificed himself they tried to make it seem like we should care for him
The only unanswered question in god of war ragnarok and 2018 which hasn't been answered intentionaly is who blew the horn when atreus was sick and kratos was bringing him to freya. this has already been adressed and they said it will be revealed one day (next game)
My main problem with this game was the puzzles and getting confused atleast once during every mission. And the Atreus solo parts were a bit drawn out but they weren''t that bad
I agree this was my favorite game this year(Elden ring is a very close second) pretty much my only “dislike” of the game was the Atreus and angraboda mission felt a bit too long
@@firstsonofthesea7938 I don't get how u mainly these games to beat crap outta everything but in a way I get you those dark elf's, travelers, and witches weren't annoying till deal with camera was bad when getting ganged up on
I’ll agree there is a couple unanswered questions. For example the whole thing with the god forseti. Mentioned by name multiple times when you’re in asgard but not shown once during the story, ragnarok itself, or post game. No mention whatsoever. & with the revelation of heimdall saying not every aesir is a god, forseti himself being one he should’ve been shown. Actually one of my biggest gripes with this game but its still amazing overall
I love this game so much, So many moments in this game hit home for me and I couldn't help but feel emotional about it. I got confused a little bit about Lady Sif when she confronted Thor and Thrud but thankful you cleared it up for me. Thanks for covering this dude, I can't believe so many people have rediculous takes on this game
Hate and criticism only can be altered by a singular person. People make excuses that hating on a game is criticizing it. The same can be said for praising a game.
My one key gripe is that the second Thor fight was a tad bit meh, at least in comparison to the first fight which was basically perfection. I woulda liked a situation where Thor smacks you around so much that you fight him literally across many realms. But instead we just fight him in front of the Lodge and that was it.
I love how people don’t think about the fact tht the prophecy wasn’t even wrong. The prophecy said showed tht the God of War would lead the charge against Odin. Tht didn’t mean it would necessarily be Tyr, Kratos was who the prophecy was referring to
the game isnt perfect but its pretty damn great, the characters are great, plot twists was great, combat is a tiny bit of a downgrade in my opinion just because we lost some very satsifying moves from gow 2018, but the new shields i loved, i loved it when thor stood up to odin and all he said was "no", i like that atreus and kratos have alot more drama going on, and the twist with odin and tier was absolutly insane, overall this game is really really good, im not sure if i like this game or 2018 better, also this video was great
@@oof1907I personally didn’t find it all that satisfying and barely ever used them I really like the game but the combat is lateral at best for me. Idk exactly what this person meant but I know I thought the executioners cleave was way cooler than this new heavy throw thing. The blades got neutered they took out the iconic spin hold r1 just to remove switch stance and give back a half assed version over hold r1. The spear is cool but can you really say it does all that much to flesh out combat?
Calling a game ‘bad’ cause you didn’t like or understand the story pisses me off, and one of the worst ‘criticisms’ is saying “the game didn’t do much different than the last one”, like yea as if they’re going open world and adding multiplayer and fucking horses in a direct sequel of a game that’s already a masterpiece.
The other will come to be the long stretches of downtime on new playthroughs, that can lead up to an hour of walking around, talking and etc, such as button prompt mountain and angrbodas section
Your take on elden ring and those type of games just not being fun is exactly how I feel. I praise them for the game art and design, but the story doesn’t draw you in nearly as well as god of war ragnarok. For Christ sake, ragnarok made people cry! Elden ring never once got me close to that emotional state.
If those games actually had a better sense of direction for the player, actual conventional story telling with an actual good story, no stamina in combat, and better damage balancing I would like them, I also just don’t like mindlessly fighting bosses with no meaning or depth from a character perspective behind them
I kinda hate Souls game. They are just so unappealing and lack anything that draws you in. The worlds are... lol, lmao. Cool art but they are nothing, nothing is there and I cannot be bothered to learn more about them. Souls games feel like Arcade games at times, it is a beat em up, but in a modern day. There is nothing more to it. You only play to fight bosses without any real purpose or immersion. Some people call them RPGs, where is the role playing part?
Just can’t agree Elden Ring has no depth. I was so hyped getting through the last boss fights in the game. Also, there’s a pretty clear story of overthrowing an unjust hierarchal system that has existed long before the player character has come to the events of the game… very similar to the story of Kratos coming and overthrowing Odin and Asgard after the Norse world had existed for thousands of years and the initial war between the Giants and the Aesir had long been ended. Got platinum on GOW 2018 so I’m sure I’ll love the newest sequel just as much but Elden Ring is a gaming experience I’ll be holding onto for a while since it feels like the game progressed alongside the decisions I was making while something like GOW is more just enjoying being along for the ride.
@@danylonimko8419 "Cool art but they are nothing, nothing is there and I cannot be bothered to learn more about them." How can you claim nothing is there when you aren't bothered to learn about the story? It's fine if people don't like the way Fromsoftware implements story into their games but it's objectively wrong to say there isn't one. Ragnarok definitely has a better story though imo. "Souls games feel like Arcade games at times, it is a beat em up, but in a modern day. There is nothing more to it. You only play to fight bosses without any real purpose or immersion." Smh this is told to you in the beginning of the game. You are brought to life so that you can restore order (the Elden Ring) to the world and you have to kill the demigods that are in possession of it's shards. No item descriptions, secret dialogue, or side quests needed to explain that.
I liked this game. Yes its not perfect, there are things that I found a little more drawn out than they should've been, there were things I would've loved to see more of, but I think GoWR would be a worthy GOTY.
@Christopher i wasnt disappointed. If you have things you dont like about the game thats fine. But stop acting like everyone has to have a problem with everything
The later half of this video reminds me of my experience in Grad School. I am working on getting a Masters in English with a focus on creative writing and there was a point where I felt discouraged because my classmates and instructors had issues understanding what I was trying to say even if my family and close friends thought it was obvious. I literally felt like I had to spell it out as if I was presenting my work to kindergartners it was very discouraging and it made me feel that my work was inadequate. No one in my class thought what I was writing was bad, in fact they wanted to know more, its just they had issues grasping certain concepts relating to the story or the characters that I feel was obvious. Point being there are some people out there where things like plotlines, character arcs, hidden concepts that work to make the characters, story, or environment more complex, just flies over their head. This is something that I feel applies to all forms of fiction, be it literature, video games, comics/manga, movies/tv. Some people can be oblivious to things presented within a given medium, and that is where videos like this is important for shedding light on something that maybe misunderstood among the consumer. Edit: I have no idea why i put Episode instead of video initially. Must have been my brain going on Auto Pilot.
The pacing feeling weird is entirely a personal thing in my opinion and I feel like the pacing could be just a tiny bit better, but that’s literally my only criticism of the game. It’s mostly the Angrboda section, like you said. However, also like you said, the boss fight was cool, and it was necessary for Loki’s character development. Fantastic game. No scale can measure the quality of the game.
I loved this game, but i did feel that regarding the thrud moment as well as kratos' turning moment in the final battle were somewhat rushed and could have been given more time
There's tons of things wrong with this game and the main problem I have with the two newest Gow games is that they're more like movies than games, you hardly even get to play the game which makes it incredibly boring
“Tons of the things wrong” proceeds to say the most brainless and objectively wrong criticism because you spend way more time in gameplay than u do in cutscenes (fact)
@@C0LIN. That really isn't a fact my guy, 7 and a half hours of cutscenes is longer than two Lord of the Rings movies. For comparison Gow 3 had 1 hour and 25 minutes of cutscenes. Also parts of the game where you can't freely move as characters talk is just an interactive cutscene not actual gameplay
@@C0LIN. Like dude just watch a movie about mythological characters fighting since the amount of gameplay is so negligible it would be better to just watch a movie at that point
@@C0LIN. Also, just because you don't like criticism doesn't mean you have to be defensive about it. I'm not going to suck you off and tell you what you want to hear dude
@@zk0rned funny how u didn’t bring any facts about the actual game and u started talking about other media when in GOW Ragnarok it takes on average around 51 1/2 hours to complete it 100% while there’s only 7 hours worth of cutscenes in the game💀 but nice try
Everyone is entitled to have their opinion. But some of the justifications behind these negative opinions make zero sense. It's like they lack critical thinking skills or just flat out ignore the things that put holes in their justifications. I personally enjoyed the game. It's not perfect but I think it has a good story, it's fun, and it's challenging. There are a few things I wish they would have done in the story. Like explain who and why the horn was blown in the 2018 game. But I suspect that will get addressed in the next game.
@colinswrld That certainly is one of the theories going around. But who actually blew it and why hasn't been confirmed. Or at least I haven't seen it confirmed.
@morgannyan2738 Being the end of the Norse Saga isn't the same as the end of the God of War franchise. So they will probably address it in the next game. I think they will somehow link it to the next pantheon they explore.
@morgannyan2738 My favorite multimillion dollar company? So because I like a game, the company that made the game is my favorite. You have a very odd way of thinking. If you don't like the game you are entitled to your opinion. I do hope you have enough sense to dislike it for reason that actually makes sense.
@morgannyan2738 You shouldn't assume what I, or anyone else on here, would say or think. I actually agree with you about being able to skip the cut scenes. I understand that everyone is different and some people just want to play the game without being held back by the stories cut scenes.
From the 2018 GOW I have to say when we start building up to the endgame it suddenly feels like it all happens in a blink, like I honestly didn’t like that after Thor we went directly to Odin it was really sudden and it’s just right to the final boss, it feels really fast and I would’ve liked to get the chance to have thors death sink in
the fact that i never saw the first game and could pick up and understand everything that was happening in the 2nd shows how good the storytelling is. these guys are ridiculous with their takes
I loved the game. Nevertheless I will always enjoy playing as a literal God of War. As a fanatic of fantasy games, Kratos has always had a special place in my heart. From his betrayal, to growing into a admired man. I'll never forget the glory of smashing aphordite, oh the blessings I received at 11 years old.
People seem to forget that this game is based on Norse myth, Thor is supposed to die in ragnarok, freyr is supposed to die in ragnarok, there are some characters that defy fate, loki isn't killed for example (he is also supposed to die in ragnarok), kratos doesn't die as the whole plot of the game circles around his possible death, but most of the deaths are not because the writers decided that that character needed to die, it's because it was written like that God of war ragnarok takes a lot of creative liberty to create its own interpretation of Norse myth, but at its core its still Norse myth, we knew how this would end since it began
@@davidson6738 don't know if I would call them rushed, they happened when they should've happened, but I can agree that they don't have as much screen time as they should
@@pralenkaman8105 thors death was extremely stupid, imo, and freyrs was just tossed in because that’s how it happens in the myth, it doesn’t change any of the story or make anything more impactful. On Thor especially, you are telling me he was able to pinned down with a knife and one shot by Odin, yet he hits jormungandr so hard it flashes back in time? There is serious dissonance in his power level depending on the scene
@@davidson6738 thor gave up after he was pinned down by kratos, he knew he had to keep fighting, because that's what odin wanted, but after kratos showed him that they can be different he gave up Odin is an all powerful sorcerer and gungnir, his spear, is a mighty weapon that I'm a bit angry that they didn't dive a little deeper in it's lore, either way, thor was supposed to die in ragnarok to the world serpent, he averted that fate and died all the same at the hands of Odin after he realized Thor wasn't of any use to him anymore, Odin is known to do that, he probably wanted to use Thor's death to convince thrud that Kratos and Atreus were the real enemies, this backfired as she arrived to see her grandfather killing her father, so Odin couldn't manipulate her there I think the deaths made sence, it's just a shame that we didn't get to see a lot of these characters, because from what I saw I liked and I think there was potential for more scenes with them to develop them more
@@pralenkaman8105 I understand why he did it, and I understand that Odin is pretty strong, but Thor getting pinned by a knife and then one shot was unfulfilling. Felt like he’s built up as a giant killer all both games, only for him to go out like a chump
I will say I agree with the second thor fight but not because of emotion, weight, mechanics, i think it mainly stems from arena switching and scale of the fight, like imagine thor hits you so hard you both land on top the the wall or on top of surtr and fight there or idk just something to switch the background not to a foggy lodge I realize how simplistic and dumb that sounds but something similar to the first games baldur fight where you are constantly moving around the area in creative ways would’ve been more climatic
The pacing of the game is just incredibly poor in both gameplay and story. Ragnarok has little to no replay value for me, which in my books means it is not a masterpiece of a game like many say.
its less of a game and more of an interactive story. which is a great idea but difficult to pull off. its like a cool movie that I want to watch... once.
The only things I wish were done differently are that some cutscenes are really long(like 2 or 3) and I wish there had been more actual mythological figures, Njord, Aegir, Skadi, Idunn, Bragi, etc.
Tbh I find it weird because when God of War makes a new game they expected something soooo damn different. People are calling it DLC (maybe haters). But when other games do it it's okay. Dark Souls 1~3 you know you came for Hard fights, Dark Souls experience Far Cry 1~6 you know you bought the game because of the open world island mayhem, Far Cry experience. Then God of War decides to make the next game, it's a problem. Bruh. Every game does this, If a game has a winning formula they'll continue to have the same engine/elements from the previous game with some changes.
if you can enjoy your 2nd playthrough of this game and not notice how poor the pacing is, how utterly brutal all the excess meaningless walking and climbing is, how the characters are all whiny and spineless and how tedious the combat is you are a better man than me. However, if you are happy playing a $70 game once, basing your opinions on that and never touching it again, more power to you.
"Tyr is the norse version of Kratos" That guy payed no attention to anything, if something isn't exploding every five seconds with Subway Surfer playing on the background, he can't focus! ADHD is not an excuse
I enjoyed the game it wasn't perfect but I am not disappointed in pre-ordering it also I can't wait to see what they can do next with Kratos and Atreus now that Ragnarok is done
I appreciate your point at the beginning of the video where you don’t shit on people for liking a game, a certain reviewer I saw was calling anyone who liked gow ragnarok woke or stupid, or they only liked mediocre stuff.
I use to think there were reasons for people easily hating things these days. After playing a masterpiece and then seeing the comments afterwards, I guess people are just desperate.
For the genre of game it's amazing. The story, voice acting, graphics are its strongest points. Gameplay is very good but not as strong. Some feel too much emphasis on the former. I'll always take gameplay over story. In general I'll watch a cut scene once and then skip in future play throughs. I prefer storytelling in other types of media.
What??? The combat isnt has good ?? What the hell are you talking about dumb fucking comment the combat is exactly the same but better in every way executions with 3 weapons instead of just the axe , elemental attacks, verticallity combat etc ...
You keep throwing around the words “objectively” and “subjectively,” but after watching this video, I genuinely don’t think you know what those words really mean.
0:17 THIS! THANK YOU! I absolutely hate it when people do this, sold me in the first 20 seconds xD. Off the top of my head I think the only real issue I had with the game is how long and drawn the Angroboda section was. Here's the beauty of objectivity and subjectivity: It is a FACT that that section is long and drawn out, however although I SUBJECTIVELY didn't like it, there will be other people that did enjoy it despite, or even in spite of its length. I think you really hit the nail on the head with this and it's a really common issue with reviewers that don't get this distinction
i feel most issues people have with the game are those set due to going in with the sole intention of hating the game, some issues do hold merit but some are just far fetched, now i havent played the game yet (waitnig for the PC port) but from what i see and what i hear from players it seems like ill enjoy it greatly for the combat, the one thing i think GoW4 kinda fumbled a bit
I try to watch some of these videos because I love hearing other opinions about things I like/dislike etc. however, 98 percent of these videos saying “iTs GArBAgE” have absolutely zero redeeming qualities or have no idea what they’re blabbering about. It’s all to start drama and controversy.
12:07 the 2018 game actually made a point that Tyr WASNT like Kratos because Tyr believed more in peace than he did war. Kratos was never one for peace until he came to Midgard. Wtf is that dude talking about? Did he even play the 2018 game?
While i love FromSoft games, i absolutely hate their fanbase. The souls fanboys pretty much think every game needs to be like a FromSoft game and while i will once again repeat that i do love those games, i would absolutely not want to live in a world where every game is like a FromSoft game.
Both games are heavy hitters and I totally get why elden ring isn’t for you. Its always going to be like that, it honestly sucks that we’ve gotten to a point in gaming we’re everyone is constantly trying to push opinion on why you should like this or hate that. It takes away the fundamental which is having fun. But that being said good job on the video and totally agree GOW definitely should be game of the year 👑
I don’t think GOW should be game of the year simply because it’s doesn’t have the same replayability, variety, and overall lasting impact that elden ring will have. GOWR will become a chore to replay because while there’s going to be skippable cutscenes, there’s a LOT of in game downtime, from climbing the mountain (button prompt mountain) to running around with angrboda for an hour bullying weak enemies and running as a dog and walking and talking, that unless they add a skip section will get tedious on repeat playthroughs quickly. Whereas like every other from soft game that lands, Elden ring will cause waves and spawn games attempting to do what it did. So really, GOTY should go to Elden ring.
I'm gonna settle this. Game is 8/10. Good not great. Didn't live up to the hype it set up. Didn't even feel like end of the world. Playing as atreus was atrocious and easily the worst part of the game when it comes to gameplay. 2 many characters I couldn't give a crap about. The worst part of the game comes down to the ending feeling rushed and underwhelming. Trust me when I say replaying this game will suck more than the 2018 version regardless of having possibly better combat from the last entry. Game should have been called Loki and friends.
5:06 Sif doesn't want Thrud to be involved in training and violence because Odin will manipulate and control her. Sif saw it from not only for Thor, but for her sons Magni and Modi. Which led to their deaths
This game is soo good I’m having to fully complete it a second time, so the amount of hate this game is getting is just unneeded I think it needs to be respected more and just stop getting hate mostly from the Elden ring nob gobblers bc when u take a deep look at this game it actually teaches u a lot bout life and makes u smile and cry sometimes bc the writing hits.
Some people said the game is shit cause Kratos isnt his old self and just raging and killing every god😂. Instead of looking at the story for what its woth and how Kratos has come full circle to abandon the killing spree, they just want to play a game were the main character does the same thing kill and kill and kill for sake of hype. Edit: Pinecone
Pinecone overall great points and I also hate that some people just try to say their opinion as fact like “the boss fight was underwhelming” what did you want to happen?
The only bad thing I can say about this game is that on God Me God Of War Difficulty, this game is hard. The only part of the game I dislike is the angyrboda (don't know how to spell her name) part because it's very slow and I kept dying cuz of the enemies on Give Me God Of War which made it even longer. I stopped playing on that difficulty when Gorm was freed and I finished it with my cousin when he caught up. The game is an easy 9/10, it's better then 2018 God Of War easily. I just don't believe that there's a perfect game but if there is, this is the closest thing to me. The story was definitely a 10/10 tho
Now I've played ragnarok twice the second was for story, paying real close attention to detail and everything and one of the things I noticed (and this has to do with Týr) when you first meet him in his prison (had subtitles on) there was no line in the top of the Y in his name (don't know what that line's called) which me paying attention was weird then when you meet the real Týr he has it. I really like that sort of detail at first I thought it was an oversight but that may have been an indicator that the Týr at the beginning was truly fake.
@@C0LIN. Stuff like that in games are so cool....and now knowing this seeing odin revealing himself to be that fake Týr makes me love it more amazing, it's also game devs being like "hey you would have seen this coming earlier if you'd pay attention"
I love the game but there are some unanswered questions or ones that are either not meant to be asked/implied to be answered but not concretely stated. I like subtext but sometimes it can feel a bit like the story is in limbo. The other realm/mask wasn't explored enough if you ask me. The game sorta implies it's an afterlife but if a character directly calls attention to something like "why did Magni not turn when he died" I was hoping for a direct answer from Ragnarok. Yeah, maybe there is an afterlife for Aesir, but in this case I want definitive confirmation. Same with who summoned the world serpent in 2018. Was is Baldur? Odin? Modi? Was it Gjallahorn from Ragnarok reverberating throughout time? Again, this is directly acknowledged but never directly answered. What was Loki's connection to the mask? This one is not as bad since it's more a story device plot point, but still. I'd also have loved to have seen the mural explored further, especially in the game. That creepy smoke coming out of Kratos and seemingly feeding on Atreus, was that Kratos' soul? Some demonic entity? I don't know. Again, probably implied to he Kratos' soul but still. I understand the desire to not repeat GOW II but I honestly was hoping for a scene involving time travel. Atreus being transported into the rift and seeing every possible timeline. Seeing how the prophecy would play out on screen. Again, that's more subjective but I felt a bit blueballed (I know that's the point). Ragnarok as the event played out felt a bit anticlimactic, and rushed. I also found at that point I got a bit lost in the sauce and the battle happened because it's the climax, I didn't feel the urgency of Odin waging war. Again, loved the game, but I do think there are flaws whether it be subjective or how everything comes out in the wash as far as set ups and payoffs. I really love Heroes season 1 and the finale isn't the greatest, but it doesn't tarnish the journey. It's not as bad as Mass Effect 3. It just went from a near masterpiece for the first 80% to a damn good/near excellent game for the last 20%.
I feel like the biggest criticism is with Freya, like sure I can see how she could start to like Kratos, but he killed her son, imagine someone killing the one person you wanted to protect the most and then forgiving them, shit takes time.
She spent three years trying to kill Kratos. He saved her life twice. Once from Baldur, and once from Atreus after she had just tried to kill him. They bonded over their shared experiences and fought side by side. She came to realize that in an indirect fashion, she also bore some responsibility for her son's death. Plus, they share a common enemy.
If there're some questions unanswered I'd say the death of Faye(it's never fully explained what happened to her) and the four dragons you helped back in Midgard
I think it was from some unnamed illness or maybe it could’ve been, her fight with Thor that we learn of in the Vanaheim crater. Maybe when she was winning she got hit a fatal hammer blow, that made them both retreat I don’t know.
People who call Ragnarok a "bad game" are not to be respected or taken seriously... Having some criticisms towards the game is totally fine! By all means, express how you think it could've been improved. But calling it a "Bad Game"!?!? You need to seriously consider getting to the root of why your life is so miserable. Because no person who has his shit together would spew such nonsense. You're just looking to stir up waves with people who're having fun with the game and who're actually happy, unlike you. You just want to get into arguments online for attention. Over a video game. It's very sad... Fix yourselves please and godspeed! (pun intended)
The only unanswered question I can think of was who blew the horn in GOW4. I don't really remember if they ever say who and some people said it was Kratos from the end of Ragnarok but that was confirmed not to be the case
The only actual criticisms I’ll accept for this game is the pacing for the angraboda section, and (what felt somewhat rushed) Thor sending jourmangandr back in time.
I played both the original and the new god of war and loved them both but for different reasons; I loved the first god of war for the combat and story not much the exploration then again that game didn't have much exploration since they were linear, I loved the new one for the story and exploration but not much the combat as it seems slower but I know why it's slower because Kratos is calmer not as aggressive as he was in the first game but that doesn't mean he isn't the same Kratos from the first games and that's what makes me enjoy these games more. Both games aren't better than each other they just connect perfectly together despite the retcons. I love both games equally and I'll continue loving both games equally. Though I'll say this I'm ready for the story to end for Kratos I'm ready for Santa Monica to focus on a new story in the same world. I'm ready for a game with Loki as the main character, despite how annoying he is.
@@anthonygarcia8749 He did nothing but complain in the first game and only became tolerable after Baldur tried to kidnap him, and in Ragnarok Atreus was in his annoying teens years always arguing with his dad who was just trying to keep his son out of war since Kratos himself suffered through war at a young age do to Spartans becoming soldiers at a young age. Basically what I'm saying is Atreus is annoying but he can change to be better and that is what I want to see, I want to see Atreus in his own games with the mind set of Kratos always guiding him with the words he was taught.
One unanswered quiestion was who blew the horn in 2018... and i can agree with some of the pacing complaints... atreus sections are getting more digestable i still feel like the Ragnarok portion of the game was too short and wouldve been more impactful if they wouldve at least teased kratos's death but kinda just brought it up several times without even coming close to dying.... all in all 2018 and Ragnarok are my 2 favorite games 😁
Some people Just like Beeing assholes sadly, the worst part Is that for example: Dude points out random issue that has no base, same bullshit like "now it's woke" (beacause apparently akbowledging emotions Is bad now) I respond sayng that the game ha sactual issues ecc ecc I get called a fanboy cause of course
The only thing I didn’t like about this game was Thor and Odin’s death felt unsatisfying. Maybe I just had too high of expectations, but Zeus‘s death was nice then Odin just kind of falls and dies.
That's the whole fucking point of God of War (2018) and God of War Ragnarok in terms of Kratos' character, Kratos DESPISED his old self, he flat out got a PTSD when the fog in Helheim recreated Zeus' death in his hand, and unlike Zeus or Ares, neither Thor nor Odin ever did wrong by him PERSONALLY, if you think about, Odin never even threaten Atreus directly, so Kratos has no quarel with Odin, which is why Kratos doesn't end him the way he end Zeus... in fact, it would make NO sense if Kratos suddenly goes ham on Odin during that final fight cause that would look like a cheap moment of morbid nostalgia
@@ariqsyafwan4987 well technically Odin did hold Atreus with a knife to his neck and if he had killed him. It would've def been GOW 3 Kratos time. But of course he didn't and so Kratos came in as a protector and I love that and showed mercy and empathy to Thor and kept his promise to Freya of not taking away her choices of life and death. Kratos even pritiorized helping and saving the innocents in the way of Ragnarok. I do think the final fights between Thor and Odin and Ragnarok battle could've been longer and have some more phases and transitions and more challenging but in terms of the conclusion/outcome of the fights and ending it was brilliant, emotional, cathartic, and beautifully fulfilling Kratos', Atreus', and Freya's arcs.
He clearly picked the dumbest people to try and prove his biased point. The game is great but it could have been better…plenty of people admit that many thing that were built up in the last game were underwhelming in this game. It is very apparent that they rushed a 3 game story into 2. Thor and Odin actually DIDN’T live up to Mimir and everyone else’s stories. Ragnarok was built up in the last game and it was underwhelming. The best I can explain this is to compare this story to the last 2 seasons of game of thrones. The battle between Thor and jormungandr was boring and from a distance. clearly rushed. Actually you could say everything leading up to the “big” final battle was clearly rushed. Kratos and Atreus don’t unite the realms against Odin…all of that was done offscreen. The Valkyries pop up out of nowhere with Freya, FUCKING Mimir went to bring Hellheim into the end of the story. The fucking SIDE characters went and did shit that COULD easily make for some of the best things in the game and clearly where meant to be. The game IS rushed…like Brok said things aren’t coming together true. Fenrir did jack shit in the end, Ragnarok did jack shit, and there was no Hel. The mechanics are amazing, graphics, score, gameplay wise it was amazing but here people are acting like this story was 100% intended to be this way. Cory is old and clearly wanted to see more of his future ideas in games so he cut his Norse story short. Baldur’s fight as a fucking whole was on a bigger scale than the entire Ragnarok final siege of Asguard. The ending that has been hyped for every fucking marketing opportunity by this company “Ragnarok” this and that was a whimper compared to the Garm encounter, Nidhoggr, and that chefs kiss Baldur battle from last game. You can deny all you want but clearly the devs rushed the game and you dickriding the RUSHED story doesn’t change that. I was looking forward to this game…the sole reason why I got a PS5 at all and it doesn’t even beat the PERFECT story that was last game. Last game had weight and emotional impact…only time I felt anything in this game was when Atreus leaves in the end and I’m FUCKING STUCK a with FREYA’s BORING FUCKING DIALOGUE. How can you look at this game and go…yeah lmao this is totally how everyone thought it was going to go down. Odin kills Thor FINE…but he kills him IN 1 fucking shot? Nigga got stabbed in his wound 2 ducking times and took that like a champ but Odin lands one hit and kills the STRONGEST GOD IN NORSE MYTHOLOGY. For fucks sakes the DRAUPNIR RING is talked about in this fucking game….MORE THAN GUNGNIR?!!! The SPEAR THAT NEVER FUCKING MISSES?! Rushed, clearly lots of usable content thrown away to get through this phase of god of war as fast as possible. This game should be called God of War : size of ocean depth of puddle. I did every side quest and everything about them was great but the meaning they have to the narrative was minimal to non existent. Lmao go kill dragons for the ecosystem LMAOOO get the fuck OUT OF HERE. In the last game every fucking side quest is deep. In this one 90% of the side quest have zero value to the main story, or characters. Faye fought Thor and it meant jack shit to the fucking story…so why the FUCK was it even there…just because lmao…”she kept secrets” WE KNOW THIS NIGGA..Magni and Modi’s death were downplayed like a mother fucker…EVERYTHING THAT a was HEAVILY EMPHASIZED aim the last game meant jack shit. Odin dies, Thor dies, Kratos grows as a better person and Atreus goes on his own…that as an ending is great but how it’s done makes zero sense. Odin…ODIN TALKED LIKE A FUCKING 2022 business man. Nigga why are his mannerisms so fucking weird?! Game of thrones all over again… FUCK making sense LETS JUST agent wild 😜 UNEXPECTED. Fuck out of here lmao
i just watched from Synthetic Man in middle i just stopped, calling Angrboda ''token black character'', freya beeing strong is apparently femministic and he hates when women is something more than idk walking sex tox, and of course kratos having any character dev and arc is bad cuz he aint killing gods every sunday and him saying he would let freya kill him is character assasination god damn lack of critical thinking
Synthetic Man is one of those Red Pill incels who think any strong female characters in media is just feminist woke garbage. Granted Angrboda being black is stupid as Hell. She might as well have gone to Africa with her disguise.
@@spoodermanreal A black character in a game based on Norse Mythology makes no sense. I would have made the same exact complain if a white character was added to a game based on African Mythology.
I think someone said it better: “In that moment, Kratos didn’t care who blew that horn as it didn’t matter. What did matter was the safety of his own son”. -Zero
For me personally the one thing I don’t like is about the Thor and Odin fights is that they weren’t longer, at least for me I wish that they had made 3 games instead of 2 so that I can experience this story even more and have even more screen time for all the characters
The game isn’t bad, but absolutely disappointing. Newly introduced characters such as Freyr, Tyr, Thrud and even Odin are just paper thin, 1 dimensional characters, Ragnarok itself was only 30 minutes long in a 20 hour game, absolutely abysmal moments such as Iron Woods (and pretty much every other Atreus section), Freya forgiving Kratos in the first 3 hours of the game, the game being afraid of it being over the top (Kratos fought Baldur pretty much all across Midgard in their final battle with Jormungandrr and a reanimated dead Giant interfering in their battle, while Kratos fought Thor in the Pig Pin) and the absolute wasted potential of characters such as Fenrir, Angrboda and Odin
I just realized I made a mistake with this video and I was wrong when referring to the “Newtons secret law of the Dick to Hand Ratio” it was a mistake it meant to read “Beef must be greater than size of hand”
How do you feel about the Synthetic Man's review of this game?
And under the mayo's review is good. You should look into that one
@@preceptorseluvis5704 no it isnt
Anyway I want colin to debunk it
I disagree, the game was great until the ending. Thor's death was just terribly written, he got one shotted, which just doesnt seem realistic. Better ways to have him die. When thor does die though, his family legitimely does not seem to care. They look like NPC's after witnessing someone they know die. 0 emotion. All of that character development of his daughter telling him she loved him, and him finally seeing that he can change and be like kratos, a better father, down the drain. And dont get me started on the rift, you spend half of atreus getting the mask for it, only for him to break it in the end. Waste of time. Kratos and everyone at one point even say its atreus choice, if it was such a danger to use the mask, kratos would not have given him the choice in the end. The rift could have been a give and take realtionship. It asks for something to give something, could have been a way to find the giants, save brok etc. They went with the most general ass ending ever, playing it very safe with no risks. My last problem with the games ending were the pacing issues and ragnarok. Ragnarok was underwhelming. You only saw the elves fight, no other race was there. It was a 2D path to the lodge, fighting 4 enemies at a time till thor and then odin.
God of war 2018 wasn't building up Tyr to be the Norse version of Kratos. It was building him up to be the opposite of Kratos. "You can either serve yourself or put your godhood in the service of others."
I also think it gives Kratos something to aspire to be and also subtly make him feel inadequate as a role model for Atreus, and thats only brought up more when Odin said Kratos never knew any sort of love from godhood, which is pretty sad and its what makes you genuinely feel happy when fate/prophecy showed that yeah you can be that kind of god too Kratos
Isnt there a moment in the first game that mimir says "tyr was a god of war , but he fought for peace" ?
Its almost impossibke to miss this line , these guys just dont pay attention to the story
@@juniorkusma7937 yup another thing people forget/know odin is also a war god..
That's exactly how I understood it
Yes we all know okay we are on Good Times Elder ring and God of War Ragnarok are two good games
The Gowr team knew damn well what they were doing when they designing Sif. They're definitely gonna be some spicy images of her floating around on the internet.
Them rule 34 is going crazy
Finally a thicc and traditionally attractive woman character design, I swear modern day likes to pretend they don't and can't exist for some reason
Quoting Brok from 2018, "BY LADY SIF'S SOFT PERFECT SLOSHERS!'
I'm only following the rules
I saw the scene from the 2018 game where Freya sees the mistletoe arrows and they did A mod where she’s nude
so why would people think Tyr was the norse equivalent to Kratos in the first place? he was always depicted as the opposite being a proponent of a peace and love rather than war and vengeance.
Surely people are just being disingenuous. Tyr had not once been depicted as violent. They just heard "god of war" and thought he was Kratos long lost twin brother i guess??
Because leading up to the start of the game, he WAS. He WAS the god of war but he gave it up just like Kratos tried to twice. Kratos’s entire story was focused on not wanting to be the god of war again but also needing to do anything to protect his family, thus pushing him further and further. To have “proof” of someone successfully making the transition to full-fledged pacifist and prove to be entirely useless in the world Kratos and company find themselves in made the twist more impactful imo
Actually in no way in gow 2018 and Ragnarok he was never described like kratos and just do another kratos would be idiotic
This game is god tier just because we get to hear kratos say woo
wheeze
My only criticism is that the odin boss fight underwhelming because i expected a clean 1v1 between him and kratos but I have to admit for the story it makes sense that it was a 4v1
you wrote 4v1 and i thought like "wasn't it 3v1" and a sudden voice said to me "DON'T FORGET ME ALL-FUCKER" and i remembered why it was a 4v1
To be fair, Odin in mythology is arguably one of the strongest gods, even stronger then Zues.
@@lejenddairy not really Zeus is truly immortal while Odin isnt
Yeah we don't really see him let loose. Like we did Zeus.
@@kwamemwangs2173 Odin is more powerful because he have more knowledge in magic than Zeus
"So many characters that arent fleshed out" Kratos finally regain his humanity back and learn how to be more open and merciful towards his enemies, Freya from being a vengeful mother chasing Kratos finally realized there's nothing to gain from revenge but more to gain from forgiveness like FINALLY BECOMING FREE FROM ODIN'S IMPRISONMENT AND REGAINING HER WINGS BACK AS A QUEEN OF VALKERIE. Brok becoming an actual friend to Kratos next to Mimir and dying after sniffing out the lie of Odin and also learns to forgive his brother for lying to him, Sindri turning from being a lovable companion to being a broken man after actually losing everything and the one to actually have a downward character arc. Thor finally standing up to his abuser/dad after sucking all the guilt he has for killing giants. Angerboda despite knowing she would be forgotten in the story still helped Atreus in his quest because she just genuinely wants to help him. Shall i continue?
none of these characters were fleshed out. Thor's redemption arc falls flat and is forced because he's barely in the game and it doesn't work and he doesn't feely guilty about killing the giants and when he gets killed nobody arounds him seems to care. Freya's transformation in such a short time is unconvincing and Angerboda is just a filler character. Brok's death was needless and pointless. Kratos is sad and pathetic and has all the personality of dried up bread etc...there's no fleshing out of any character just incomplete and disjointed things happening
@@cooljool1again did you play the whole game( I’m talking bout the side missions as well) and listened to the characters talk.
Don't forget the way kratos grows his relationship with atreus
@@cooljool1thor had his redemption to stop fighting and then odin killed him which shows how odin only used thor as a tool and did not see him as his son and did not care for him
which contrasts kratos' relationship with atreus by the end of the game
@@temiomo-loto4122This content shouldn't be in side content.
Half of the "criticisms" of the game continues to tell me some ppl really shouldn't have opinions
The game is mediocre. You people are delusional and hype up everything. I like the game but its not THAT good.
@@aladeen9655 game is THAT good, people like you try too hard to be "different "
@@karma_v2977 say whatever you wanna but the truth is that this game is a wasted opportunity. Go watch the interviews before the release of the game and you may understand.
@@aladeen9655 man you don't know the truth, you are just Hutt hurt that a fantastic game is loved
@@karma_v2977 I feel like it didn’t live up to any of the things that 2018 set up for so I was a bit of a let down for me personally
Most criticisms I've heard are addressed in the actual game, which tells me people didn't pay attention for whatever reason
"Why can't fenrir just make a tear to Asgard?"
'were safe here, in Asgard, but everywhere else...'
"Why did sif go from hating Loki to defending Loki immediately?"
*Cut to sif clearly trying to convince thor to kill Odin but he took it to mean kill Loki since his head is foggy understandably
Wait this just randomly occurred to me but how did Fenrir make a tear thru Asgard to rescue everyone after Odin died?
@@saidbtk fenrir is literally in garm the hellhound of hel’s body, remember when mimir and freya, tyr’ say he will tear the realm apart.
@@saidbtk I guess gjallarhorn has something to do with it, after all, it allows all other teleportation methods to asgard possible too, maybe gjallarhorn breaks some kind of protection spell to prevent any teleportation to asgard (except using odin's ravens)
@@saidbtk did think of that afterwards, my answer is, keeping it out was a preventative thing, not a definite thing
Basically there was nothing to stop it once it was already in, like a destroyed door, with gallarhorn acting as the other way in to allow it to do so
Should've had some dialogue addressed to it to be clear, or I myself may have missed it, but I think what I thought of was satisfactory enough
@@RueOfficial ahhh ok that makes sense thanks
Subjectively my only issue with frayrs death is that it felt like he totally had time to run out with the rest of the people and also i didnt understand what atreus's stunt was supposed to be because it didn't do anything except get him hurt (but it did feel in character for him to try to do something in that moment)
That said, emotionally I would have enjoyed it more if Ingrid had sacrificed itself to save freyr. But that's just me.
Its always a hassle trying to figure out deaths, I assume Birgir surviving was tipping it dangerously close to no casualties in the actual war for the main characters
Atreus didn't try any stunt , he went to go pick up his bow that was on the floor. Watch the clip again you'll see it the bow means a lot to him cuz his mom gave him it
@@Aman-br9ws ohh I didn't know his bow was even on the ground. That's cool okay. That makes much more sense. When that happened I thought he was trying to sacrifice himself to save freyr at first but that didn't make a whole lot of sense.
It took me 3 rewatches to realize odin had hidden crows in the closet he used as tyr, i love how neatly packed a lot of details are.
So, Freyr dying is really more just an acknowledgement of the original Ragnarök myth, since he’s supposed to be killed by Surtr specifically. Actually, it’s stated that the reason he died was because he didn’t have his magical unnamed sword with him, so that’s interesting.
@@kennethsatria6607 Was he one with the greatsword?
Can also add more significance to not only broks death, but his funeral and sindris feelings towards. We know brok died before and didn’t have all his soul bits, so when he died, poof, that’s it. No afterlife.
So the funeral given to brok was a typical Norse/Viking funeral, placed on a boat and drifted out. The boat is significant in that the Norse did this to allow “safe passage” to the afterlife. So us knowing this, means Sindri knows this. He’s giving his brother without a soul with no way to get to the afterlife a funeral that means absolutely nothing as there’s no afterlife for brok. The other dwarves may not know or understand this, but Sindri does. The funeral, in essence, was useless to sindri, provides no closure, no relief knowing his brother is safe in the afterlife, and further drives home the fact that Sindri will never again be with his brother, ever, eternally. And that part of broks finality lies squarely on himself, and he knows it. That’s why there’s no comfort in the funeral for Sindri.
The actual objective (and subjective) problems I can come up with is camera tends to screw you over in combat, NPCs give you hints almost immediately, a glitch where Atreus says the same line over and over, parts going on too long, a lot of times when the story is picking up pace it slows down for side characters depth, Sif not hating you quickly and acting like she didn’t just send Thor after Loki like a dog, and Thrud switches to your side really quickly during Ragnorok (I can see her not caring about her brothers because grandpa says and acts like they’re useless so it doesn’t matter to her and IG I can see why she doesn’t hate him from the get go) I still don’t think it completely ruins the game but def hurts or hinders it.
About it he Sif part, she was telling Thor to defy the All father after he ruined their family instead Thor misunderstood and went after Atreus. That's what he explains in this video.
@@fan977 We that part, it still doesnt make sense especially when he killed her brother.
Sif wanted Loki locked up but as soon as Odin stepped over her and treated her the way he did, she wanted Thor to stand up against Odin. She was not sending him to attack Loki though Thor's emotions got the better of him.
likely growing pains from the point of the devs not wanting to make the norse saga a trilogy
@@1Manda1 dawg freya forgave kratos for killing baldur….I don’t think it’s too far out the realm of possibility for thrud and Sif to forgive Atreus
The new GOW games were both amazing! Reviews like those boggle my mind to no end.
"Did you actually play the game? Did you watch it? Were you awake during it? Did you pay attention to anything going on?" I want to ask them these questions.
"Too many characters introduced...."
Oh wonderful. Thank you. Writers, please keep your stories focused on two characters at most and one plot point from now on. .>
Okay but let’s not lie to ourselves that the Atreus section with Angrboda where the only thing you really do is bully weak enemies, walk around and do light platforming and is essentially an hour and a half of cutscene like gameplay wasn’t either boring or overall just going to make replaying the game a chore eventually.
The biggest part was when they introduced a handful of characters and when that one guy with the sword sacrificed himself they tried to make it seem like we should care for him
The only unanswered question in god of war ragnarok and 2018 which hasn't been answered intentionaly is
who blew the horn when atreus was sick and kratos was bringing him to freya.
this has already been adressed and they said it will be revealed one day (next game)
It was Baldur
@@C0LIN. It wasn't that was a theory even the devs dont wanna answer it check this link for more info
ua-cam.com/video/ut4VLlFQWXI/v-deo.html
@@NewCovenantOfChrist oh I thought it was real since I’ve seen a lot of people say that my fault
I was actually about to post that as one of the unanswered questions in this video. Actually, it's the only unanswered question I really care about.
@@NewCovenantOfChrist gjalhorn, simple reason
My main problem with this game was the puzzles and getting confused atleast once during every mission. And the Atreus solo parts were a bit drawn out but they weren''t that bad
I agree this was my favorite game this year(Elden ring is a very close second) pretty much my only “dislike” of the game was the Atreus and angraboda mission felt a bit too long
Mine is actually engaging with enemies it’s the most choriest chore in the world I hate having to break down basic enemies every time
@@firstsonofthesea7938 I don't get how u mainly these games to beat crap outta everything but in a way I get you those dark elf's, travelers, and witches weren't annoying till deal with camera was bad when getting ganged up on
I’ll agree there is a couple unanswered questions. For example the whole thing with the god forseti. Mentioned by name multiple times when you’re in asgard but not shown once during the story, ragnarok itself, or post game. No mention whatsoever. & with the revelation of heimdall saying not every aesir is a god, forseti himself being one he should’ve been shown. Actually one of my biggest gripes with this game but its still amazing overall
@Christopher i was bouta say😭
I love this game so much, So many moments in this game hit home for me and I couldn't help but feel emotional about it. I got confused a little bit about Lady Sif when she confronted Thor and Thrud but thankful you cleared it up for me. Thanks for covering this dude, I can't believe so many people have rediculous takes on this game
People hate just to hate. Simple as that
@@Abosone Nah that’s just wrong. I really liked 2018 but ragnarok was just so disappointing in comparison
Hate and criticism only can be altered by a singular person.
People make excuses that hating on a game is criticizing it. The same can be said for praising a game.
Synthetic Man just felt a disturbance in the force.
My one key gripe is that the second Thor fight was a tad bit meh, at least in comparison to the first fight which was basically perfection. I woulda liked a situation where Thor smacks you around so much that you fight him literally across many realms. But instead we just fight him in front of the Lodge and that was it.
Tbf 90% enjoy the game. You know the saying minority are the loudest. If they see a game doing well they will speak out etc
I love how people don’t think about the fact tht the prophecy wasn’t even wrong. The prophecy said showed tht the God of War would lead the charge against Odin. Tht didn’t mean it would necessarily be Tyr, Kratos was who the prophecy was referring to
And the game was all about breaking prophecy
the game isnt perfect but its pretty damn great, the characters are great, plot twists was great, combat is a tiny bit of a downgrade in my opinion just because we lost some very satsifying moves from gow 2018, but the new shields i loved, i loved it when thor stood up to odin and all he said was "no", i like that atreus and kratos have alot more drama going on, and the twist with odin and tier was absolutly insane, overall this game is really really good, im not sure if i like this game or 2018 better, also this video was great
Well I disagree with the combat that I said.
The combat was kind of an upgrade tbh. The addition of holding triangle to charge up the axe or blades was so satisfying in combat
what are you talking about ?? weve got the same movements from 2018 along with the new ones
@@oof1907I personally didn’t find it all that satisfying and barely ever used them I really like the game but the combat is lateral at best for me. Idk exactly what this person meant but I know I thought the executioners cleave was way cooler than this new heavy throw thing. The blades got neutered they took out the iconic spin hold r1 just to remove switch stance and give back a half assed version over hold r1. The spear is cool but can you really say it does all that much to flesh out combat?
The combat was an upgrade since it was way faster and didn’t take five weeks for Kratos to switch to the blades or axe in a combo.
Calling a game ‘bad’ cause you didn’t like or understand the story pisses me off, and one of the worst ‘criticisms’ is saying “the game didn’t do much different than the last one”, like yea as if they’re going open world and adding multiplayer and fucking horses in a direct sequel of a game that’s already a masterpiece.
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Both are good, but neither are masterpieces. Fact is sequels can change the formula much more. Compare ds1 to ds2
imo the only thing you can really criticize the game for as an objective flaw is the game constantly giving you the answers to puzzles.
The other will come to be the long stretches of downtime on new playthroughs, that can lead up to an hour of walking around, talking and etc, such as button prompt mountain and angrbodas section
I learned AFTER finishing the game you can turn the hints off
Bro that joke about Thor and his wife that you did just for that, I literally have to subscribe I thought I was going to choke on my sweet tea.🤣
Your take on elden ring and those type of games just not being fun is exactly how I feel. I praise them for the game art and design, but the story doesn’t draw you in nearly as well as god of war ragnarok. For Christ sake, ragnarok made people cry! Elden ring never once got me close to that emotional state.
If those games actually had a better sense of direction for the player, actual conventional story telling with an actual good story, no stamina in combat, and better damage balancing I would like them, I also just don’t like mindlessly fighting bosses with no meaning or depth from a character perspective behind them
THIS!!! I love the art design of Elden ring but lord have mercy it’s so BOOORRRIIIINNGGGGG
I kinda hate Souls game. They are just so unappealing and lack anything that draws you in. The worlds are... lol, lmao. Cool art but they are nothing, nothing is there and I cannot be bothered to learn more about them. Souls games feel like Arcade games at times, it is a beat em up, but in a modern day. There is nothing more to it. You only play to fight bosses without any real purpose or immersion. Some people call them RPGs, where is the role playing part?
Just can’t agree Elden Ring has no depth. I was so hyped getting through the last boss fights in the game.
Also, there’s a pretty clear story of overthrowing an unjust hierarchal system that has existed long before the player character has come to the events of the game… very similar to the story of Kratos coming and overthrowing Odin and Asgard after the Norse world had existed for thousands of years and the initial war between the Giants and the Aesir had long been ended.
Got platinum on GOW 2018 so I’m sure I’ll love the newest sequel just as much but Elden Ring is a gaming experience I’ll be holding onto for a while since it feels like the game progressed alongside the decisions I was making while something like GOW is more just enjoying being along for the ride.
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"Cool art but they are nothing, nothing is there and I cannot be bothered to learn more about them."
How can you claim nothing is there when you aren't bothered to learn about the story? It's fine if people don't like the way Fromsoftware implements story into their games but it's objectively wrong to say there isn't one. Ragnarok definitely has a better story though imo.
"Souls games feel like Arcade games at times, it is a beat em up, but in a modern day. There is nothing more to it. You only play to fight bosses without any real purpose or immersion."
Smh this is told to you in the beginning of the game. You are brought to life so that you can restore order (the Elden Ring) to the world and you have to kill the demigods that are in possession of it's shards. No item descriptions, secret dialogue, or side quests needed to explain that.
5:52 I like that even though Sindri is furious with Atreus, he still goes to save him without a second thought.
I liked this game. Yes its not perfect, there are things that I found a little more drawn out than they should've been, there were things I would've loved to see more of, but I think GoWR would be a worthy GOTY.
Sadly it didn't happen
@Christopher i wasnt disappointed. If you have things you dont like about the game thats fine. But stop acting like everyone has to have a problem with everything
The later half of this video reminds me of my experience in Grad School. I am working on getting a Masters in English with a focus on creative writing and there was a point where I felt discouraged because my classmates and instructors had issues understanding what I was trying to say even if my family and close friends thought it was obvious. I literally felt like I had to spell it out as if I was presenting my work to kindergartners it was very discouraging and it made me feel that my work was inadequate. No one in my class thought what I was writing was bad, in fact they wanted to know more, its just they had issues grasping certain concepts relating to the story or the characters that I feel was obvious. Point being there are some people out there where things like plotlines, character arcs, hidden concepts that work to make the characters, story, or environment more complex, just flies over their head. This is something that I feel applies to all forms of fiction, be it literature, video games, comics/manga, movies/tv. Some people can be oblivious to things presented within a given medium, and that is where videos like this is important for shedding light on something that maybe misunderstood among the consumer.
Edit: I have no idea why i put Episode instead of video initially. Must have been my brain going on Auto Pilot.
The pacing feeling weird is entirely a personal thing in my opinion and I feel like the pacing could be just a tiny bit better, but that’s literally my only criticism of the game. It’s mostly the Angrboda section, like you said. However, also like you said, the boss fight was cool, and it was necessary for Loki’s character development.
Fantastic game. No scale can measure the quality of the game.
I loved this game, but i did feel that regarding the thrud moment as well as kratos' turning moment in the final battle were somewhat rushed and could have been given more time
Yeah. I wonder why they didn't extend the game for the end.
I mean, look how long Witcher III IS!!
This game is a 7/10 at most. The last 3rd of the game went straight downhill.
There's tons of things wrong with this game and the main problem I have with the two newest Gow games is that they're more like movies than games, you hardly even get to play the game which makes it incredibly boring
“Tons of the things wrong” proceeds to say the most brainless and objectively wrong criticism because you spend way more time in gameplay than u do in cutscenes (fact)
@@C0LIN. That really isn't a fact my guy, 7 and a half hours of cutscenes is longer than two Lord of the Rings movies. For comparison Gow 3 had 1 hour and 25 minutes of cutscenes. Also parts of the game where you can't freely move as characters talk is just an interactive cutscene not actual gameplay
@@C0LIN. Like dude just watch a movie about mythological characters fighting since the amount of gameplay is so negligible it would be better to just watch a movie at that point
@@C0LIN. Also, just because you don't like criticism doesn't mean you have to be defensive about it. I'm not going to suck you off and tell you what you want to hear dude
@@zk0rned funny how u didn’t bring any facts about the actual game and u started talking about other media when in GOW Ragnarok it takes on average around 51 1/2 hours to complete it 100% while there’s only 7 hours worth of cutscenes in the game💀 but nice try
Everyone is entitled to have their opinion. But some of the justifications behind these negative opinions make zero sense. It's like they lack critical thinking skills or just flat out ignore the things that put holes in their justifications. I personally enjoyed the game. It's not perfect but I think it has a good story, it's fun, and it's challenging. There are a few things I wish they would have done in the story. Like explain who and why the horn was blown in the 2018 game. But I suspect that will get addressed in the next game.
It was Baldur who blew the horn
@colinswrld That certainly is one of the theories going around. But who actually blew it and why hasn't been confirmed. Or at least I haven't seen it confirmed.
@morgannyan2738 Being the end of the Norse Saga isn't the same as the end of the God of War franchise. So they will probably address it in the next game. I think they will somehow link it to the next pantheon they explore.
@morgannyan2738 My favorite multimillion dollar company? So because I like a game, the company that made the game is my favorite. You have a very odd way of thinking. If you don't like the game you are entitled to your opinion. I do hope you have enough sense to dislike it for reason that actually makes sense.
@morgannyan2738 You shouldn't assume what I, or anyone else on here, would say or think. I actually agree with you about being able to skip the cut scenes. I understand that everyone is different and some people just want to play the game without being held back by the stories cut scenes.
Oh thank God I'm not the only one who questioned how Lady Sif was able to take Thor's...hammer, despite being a 3rd his size.
Obviously she’d have to be on top but still *how*
the only part i hate is the Ironwood part. I kinda dont wanna do that part again on my NG+ run..
God of War was destroyed with 2018 1-3 was three of the best games ever.
Ragnarok and 2018 are better than every other GOW cope
@@Go-Go-Guts bro thinks every child and parent story is a copy of TLOU💀TLOU wasn’t even the first to do it
@@C0LIN.🤣😂🤣
From the 2018 GOW I have to say when we start building up to the endgame it suddenly feels like it all happens in a blink, like I honestly didn’t like that after Thor we went directly to Odin it was really sudden and it’s just right to the final boss, it feels really fast and I would’ve liked to get the chance to have thors death sink in
the fact that i never saw the first game and could pick up and understand everything that was happening in the 2nd shows how good the storytelling is. these guys are ridiculous with their takes
I loved the game. Nevertheless I will always enjoy playing as a literal God of War. As a fanatic of fantasy games, Kratos has always had a special place in my heart. From his betrayal, to growing into a admired man. I'll never forget the glory of smashing aphordite, oh the blessings I received at 11 years old.
People seem to forget that this game is based on Norse myth, Thor is supposed to die in ragnarok, freyr is supposed to die in ragnarok, there are some characters that defy fate, loki isn't killed for example (he is also supposed to die in ragnarok), kratos doesn't die as the whole plot of the game circles around his possible death, but most of the deaths are not because the writers decided that that character needed to die, it's because it was written like that
God of war ragnarok takes a lot of creative liberty to create its own interpretation of Norse myth, but at its core its still Norse myth, we knew how this would end since it began
I understand they are supposed to die, but both thors and freyrs deaths are extremely underwhelming and rushed
@@davidson6738 don't know if I would call them rushed, they happened when they should've happened, but I can agree that they don't have as much screen time as they should
@@pralenkaman8105 thors death was extremely stupid, imo, and freyrs was just tossed in because that’s how it happens in the myth, it doesn’t change any of the story or make anything more impactful. On Thor especially, you are telling me he was able to pinned down with a knife and one shot by Odin, yet he hits jormungandr so hard it flashes back in time? There is serious dissonance in his power level depending on the scene
@@davidson6738 thor gave up after he was pinned down by kratos, he knew he had to keep fighting, because that's what odin wanted, but after kratos showed him that they can be different he gave up
Odin is an all powerful sorcerer and gungnir, his spear, is a mighty weapon that I'm a bit angry that they didn't dive a little deeper in it's lore, either way, thor was supposed to die in ragnarok to the world serpent, he averted that fate and died all the same at the hands of Odin after he realized Thor wasn't of any use to him anymore, Odin is known to do that, he probably wanted to use Thor's death to convince thrud that Kratos and Atreus were the real enemies, this backfired as she arrived to see her grandfather killing her father, so Odin couldn't manipulate her there
I think the deaths made sence, it's just a shame that we didn't get to see a lot of these characters, because from what I saw I liked and I think there was potential for more scenes with them to develop them more
@@pralenkaman8105 I understand why he did it, and I understand that Odin is pretty strong, but Thor getting pinned by a knife and then one shot was unfulfilling. Felt like he’s built up as a giant killer all both games, only for him to go out like a chump
I will say I agree with the second thor fight but not because of emotion, weight, mechanics, i think it mainly stems from arena switching and scale of the fight, like imagine thor hits you so hard you both land on top the the wall or on top of surtr and fight there or idk just something to switch the background not to a foggy lodge I realize how simplistic and dumb that sounds but something similar to the first games baldur fight where you are constantly moving around the area in creative ways would’ve been more climatic
The pacing of the game is just incredibly poor in both gameplay and story. Ragnarok has little to no replay value for me, which in my books means it is not a masterpiece of a game like many say.
its less of a game and more of an interactive story. which is a great idea but difficult to pull off. its like a cool movie that I want to watch... once.
I hate how this game is so amazing and yet it gets hate for the dumbest reason that has been proven wrong so easily
The only things I wish were done differently are that some cutscenes are really long(like 2 or 3) and I wish there had been more actual mythological figures, Njord, Aegir, Skadi, Idunn, Bragi, etc.
Love how real fans love it then there’s others hate the game they used to praise for
Thanks for being crystal clear, it's much needed in our society.
Wait...
YOU CAN USE MIMIR FOR AN ATTACK???
Yep! He stacks Bifröst on Kratos’ enemies & it’s truly the most awesome stuff ever!
Tbh I find it weird because when God of War makes a new game they expected something soooo damn different. People are calling it DLC (maybe haters).
But when other games do it it's okay. Dark Souls 1~3 you know you came for Hard fights, Dark Souls experience
Far Cry 1~6 you know you bought the game because of the open world island mayhem, Far Cry experience.
Then God of War decides to make the next game, it's a problem. Bruh. Every game does this, If a game has a winning formula they'll continue to have the same engine/elements from the previous game with some changes.
I mean the only really unanswered question is who blew the horn in god of war 2018 when loki was sick
It was Baldur
if you can enjoy your 2nd playthrough of this game and not notice how poor the pacing is, how utterly brutal all the excess meaningless walking and climbing is, how the characters are all whiny and spineless and how tedious the combat is you are a better man than me. However, if you are happy playing a $70 game once, basing your opinions on that and never touching it again, more power to you.
"Tyr is the norse version of Kratos"
That guy payed no attention to anything, if something isn't exploding every five seconds with Subway Surfer playing on the background, he can't focus! ADHD is not an excuse
10:00 I had that question, but it’s on how Rhea was able to have kids with Cronos in the game 😂😂😂
I enjoyed the game it wasn't perfect but I am not disappointed in pre-ordering it also I can't wait to see what they can do next with Kratos and Atreus now that Ragnarok is done
I appreciate your point at the beginning of the video where you don’t shit on people for liking a game, a certain reviewer I saw was calling anyone who liked gow ragnarok woke or stupid, or they only liked mediocre stuff.
Anyone calling Ragnarok "woke" lives chronically online
@@C0LIN. some guy was calling Freya woke and feminist garbage cause she almost beat kratos in that one fight
Great video. Unfortunately there’s a severe lack of basic media literacy among gamers.
Clearly.
I use to think there were reasons for people easily hating things these days. After playing a masterpiece and then seeing the comments afterwards, I guess people are just desperate.
For the genre of game it's amazing. The story, voice acting, graphics are its strongest points. Gameplay is very good but not as strong. Some feel too much emphasis on the former. I'll always take gameplay over story. In general I'll watch a cut scene once and then skip in future play throughs. I prefer storytelling in other types of media.
Ye same dude
Tbh combat gameplay is one of my favorite parts of the game
What??? The combat isnt has good ?? What the hell are you talking about dumb fucking comment the combat is exactly the same but better in every way executions with 3 weapons instead of just the axe , elemental attacks, verticallity combat etc ...
@@danielestevao5 chill dude
@@julianryan7661 shut up like im not right
You keep throwing around the words “objectively” and “subjectively,” but after watching this video, I genuinely don’t think you know what those words really mean.
Ya because your brain doesn't work
Pinecone. That guys review of God of War: Ragnarok is honestly braindead
0:17 THIS! THANK YOU! I absolutely hate it when people do this, sold me in the first 20 seconds xD. Off the top of my head I think the only real issue I had with the game is how long and drawn the Angroboda section was. Here's the beauty of objectivity and subjectivity: It is a FACT that that section is long and drawn out, however although I SUBJECTIVELY didn't like it, there will be other people that did enjoy it despite, or even in spite of its length. I think you really hit the nail on the head with this and it's a really common issue with reviewers that don't get this distinction
Litteraly every streamer who played this game and turned the difficulty up, COMPLAINED about how hard the game was🤣🤣🤣🤣
i feel most issues people have with the game are those set due to going in with the sole intention of hating the game, some issues do hold merit but some are just far fetched, now i havent played the game yet (waitnig for the PC port) but from what i see and what i hear from players it seems like ill enjoy it greatly for the combat, the one thing i think GoW4 kinda fumbled a bit
I try to watch some of these videos because I love hearing other opinions about things I like/dislike etc.
however, 98 percent of these videos saying “iTs GArBAgE” have absolutely zero redeeming qualities or have no idea what they’re blabbering about. It’s all to start drama and controversy.
XBox owners?
12:07 the 2018 game actually made a point that Tyr WASNT like Kratos because Tyr believed more in peace than he did war. Kratos was never one for peace until he came to Midgard. Wtf is that dude talking about? Did he even play the 2018 game?
While i love FromSoft games, i absolutely hate their fanbase. The souls fanboys pretty much think every game needs to be like a FromSoft game and while i will once again repeat that i do love those games, i would absolutely not want to live in a world where every game is like a FromSoft game.
Both games are heavy hitters and I totally get why elden ring isn’t for you. Its always going to be like that, it honestly sucks that we’ve gotten to a point in gaming we’re everyone is constantly trying to push opinion on why you should like this or hate that. It takes away the fundamental which is having fun. But that being said good job on the video and totally agree GOW definitely should be game of the year 👑
Well said
I don’t think GOW should be game of the year simply because it’s doesn’t have the same replayability, variety, and overall lasting impact that elden ring will have. GOWR will become a chore to replay because while there’s going to be skippable cutscenes, there’s a LOT of in game downtime, from climbing the mountain (button prompt mountain) to running around with angrboda for an hour bullying weak enemies and running as a dog and walking and talking, that unless they add a skip section will get tedious on repeat playthroughs quickly.
Whereas like every other from soft game that lands, Elden ring will cause waves and spawn games attempting to do what it did.
So really, GOTY should go to Elden ring.
I'm gonna settle this. Game is 8/10. Good not great. Didn't live up to the hype it set up. Didn't even feel like end of the world. Playing as atreus was atrocious and easily the worst part of the game when it comes to gameplay. 2 many characters I couldn't give a crap about. The worst part of the game comes down to the ending feeling rushed and underwhelming. Trust me when I say replaying this game will suck more than the 2018 version regardless of having possibly better combat from the last entry. Game should have been called Loki and friends.
Bro said I’m gonna settle this than said a bunch of bs that’s subjective to YOURSELF
@@C0LIN. you're a bunch of bs
The game of unanswered questions…wow have they ever played a souls game
5:06 Sif doesn't want Thrud to be involved in training and violence because Odin will manipulate and control her. Sif saw it from not only for Thor, but for her sons Magni and Modi. Which led to their deaths
This game is soo good I’m having to fully complete it a second time, so the amount of hate this game is getting is just unneeded I think it needs to be respected more and just stop getting hate mostly from the Elden ring nob gobblers bc when u take a deep look at this game it actually teaches u a lot bout life and makes u smile and cry sometimes bc the writing hits.
Some people said the game is shit cause Kratos isnt his old self and just raging and killing every god😂. Instead of looking at the story for what its woth and how Kratos has come full circle to abandon the killing spree, they just want to play a game were the main character does the same thing kill and kill and kill for sake of hype.
Edit: Pinecone
Braindead, shallow, and whiney gamers at their finest
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Pinecone overall great points and I also hate that some people just try to say their opinion as fact like “the boss fight was underwhelming” what did you want to happen?
The only bad thing I can say about this game is that on God Me God Of War Difficulty, this game is hard. The only part of the game I dislike is the angyrboda (don't know how to spell her name) part because it's very slow and I kept dying cuz of the enemies on Give Me God Of War which made it even longer. I stopped playing on that difficulty when Gorm was freed and I finished it with my cousin when he caught up. The game is an easy 9/10, it's better then 2018 God Of War easily. I just don't believe that there's a perfect game but if there is, this is the closest thing to me. The story was definitely a 10/10 tho
Now I've played ragnarok twice the second was for story, paying real close attention to detail and everything and one of the things I noticed (and this has to do with Týr) when you first meet him in his prison (had subtitles on) there was no line in the top of the Y in his name (don't know what that line's called) which me paying attention was weird then when you meet the real Týr he has it. I really like that sort of detail at first I thought it was an oversight but that may have been an indicator that the Týr at the beginning was truly fake.
Wow I didn’t notice that that’s actually such a cool detail
@@C0LIN. Stuff like that in games are so cool....and now knowing this seeing odin revealing himself to be that fake Týr makes me love it more amazing, it's also game devs being like "hey you would have seen this coming earlier if you'd pay attention"
Also the part when when odin call freya frigg when he was disguised 🥸 as tyr was a clue as well
@@infiniteabyss841 also his reaction in Alfhiem when he found out Groa lied about the prophecy that scene takes on new meaning
FFS - that's what you think is worth commenting on?
I love the game but there are some unanswered questions or ones that are either not meant to be asked/implied to be answered but not concretely stated. I like subtext but sometimes it can feel a bit like the story is in limbo. The other realm/mask wasn't explored enough if you ask me. The game sorta implies it's an afterlife but if a character directly calls attention to something like "why did Magni not turn when he died" I was hoping for a direct answer from Ragnarok. Yeah, maybe there is an afterlife for Aesir, but in this case I want definitive confirmation. Same with who summoned the world serpent in 2018. Was is Baldur? Odin? Modi? Was it Gjallahorn from Ragnarok reverberating throughout time? Again, this is directly acknowledged but never directly answered. What was Loki's connection to the mask? This one is not as bad since it's more a story device plot point, but still. I'd also have loved to have seen the mural explored further, especially in the game. That creepy smoke coming out of Kratos and seemingly feeding on Atreus, was that Kratos' soul? Some demonic entity? I don't know. Again, probably implied to he Kratos' soul but still.
I understand the desire to not repeat GOW II but I honestly was hoping for a scene involving time travel. Atreus being transported into the rift and seeing every possible timeline. Seeing how the prophecy would play out on screen. Again, that's more subjective but I felt a bit blueballed (I know that's the point). Ragnarok as the event played out felt a bit anticlimactic, and rushed. I also found at that point I got a bit lost in the sauce and the battle happened because it's the climax, I didn't feel the urgency of Odin waging war. Again, loved the game, but I do think there are flaws whether it be subjective or how everything comes out in the wash as far as set ups and payoffs. I really love Heroes season 1 and the finale isn't the greatest, but it doesn't tarnish the journey. It's not as bad as Mass Effect 3. It just went from a near masterpiece for the first 80% to a damn good/near excellent game for the last 20%.
The game’s ost goes so hard tho
I feel like the biggest criticism is with Freya, like sure I can see how she could start to like Kratos, but he killed her son, imagine someone killing the one person you wanted to protect the most and then forgiving them, shit takes time.
She spent three years trying to kill Kratos. He saved her life twice. Once from Baldur, and once from Atreus after she had just tried to kill him. They bonded over their shared experiences and fought side by side. She came to realize that in an indirect fashion, she also bore some responsibility for her son's death. Plus, they share a common enemy.
@@gaelangaudette9576 Yeah after reconsidering it, that would do it.
This is cool as fk!! Your points are spot on! And I loved this game!! Thank you!
Who's the best side character in this game
Ratatoskr’s my favorite
@@C0LIN.Angroboda is my personal favorite
Gotta be freyr
Gotta be mimir tho
Everybody gangsta til’ the highschool dropouts start critiquing games
But (hopefully) if there's one thing we can all agree on, it's that Bear Mcreary cooked with this ost
If there're some questions unanswered I'd say the death of Faye(it's never fully explained what happened to her) and the four dragons you helped back in Midgard
I think it was from some unnamed illness or maybe it could’ve been, her fight with Thor that we learn of in the Vanaheim crater. Maybe when she was winning she got hit a fatal hammer blow, that made them both retreat I don’t know.
People who call Ragnarok a "bad game" are not to be respected or taken seriously...
Having some criticisms towards the game is totally fine! By all means, express how you think it could've been improved. But calling it a "Bad Game"!?!? You need to seriously consider getting to the root of why your life is so miserable. Because no person who has his shit together would spew such nonsense. You're just looking to stir up waves with people who're having fun with the game and who're actually happy, unlike you. You just want to get into arguments online for attention. Over a video game. It's very sad...
Fix yourselves please and godspeed! (pun intended)
The only unanswered question I can think of was who blew the horn in GOW4. I don't really remember if they ever say who and some people said it was Kratos from the end of Ragnarok but that was confirmed not to be the case
Cory already said in an interview that he will come around to reveal that story in the future.
Hmm idk why but I think it could be Loki from the future or another Norse god
The only actual criticisms I’ll accept for this game is the pacing for the angraboda section, and (what felt somewhat rushed) Thor sending jourmangandr back in time.
I played both the original and the new god of war and loved them both but for different reasons; I loved the first god of war for the combat and story not much the exploration then again that game didn't have much exploration since they were linear, I loved the new one for the story and exploration but not much the combat as it seems slower but I know why it's slower because Kratos is calmer not as aggressive as he was in the first game but that doesn't mean he isn't the same Kratos from the first games and that's what makes me enjoy these games more.
Both games aren't better than each other they just connect perfectly together despite the retcons. I love both games equally and I'll continue loving both games equally. Though I'll say this I'm ready for the story to end for Kratos I'm ready for Santa Monica to focus on a new story in the same world. I'm ready for a game with Loki as the main character, despite how annoying he is.
He's not annoying why is this yet another dogmatic npc talking point? Smh
@@anthonygarcia8749 He did nothing but complain in the first game and only became tolerable after Baldur tried to kidnap him, and in Ragnarok Atreus was in his annoying teens years always arguing with his dad who was just trying to keep his son out of war since Kratos himself suffered through war at a young age do to Spartans becoming soldiers at a young age. Basically what I'm saying is Atreus is annoying but he can change to be better and that is what I want to see, I want to see Atreus in his own games with the mind set of Kratos always guiding him with the words he was taught.
What exploration? Riding in a boat isn't exploration dawg
Anyone else think the finale was just a overall mess?
Freyr dying was unnecessary and wasted potential, but the finale was alright I think
I agree with almost All points. But they are a few unanswered questions, like what exactly happened to faye and was is with Sindri?
One unanswered quiestion was who blew the horn in 2018... and i can agree with some of the pacing complaints... atreus sections are getting more digestable i still feel like the Ragnarok portion of the game was too short and wouldve been more impactful if they wouldve at least teased kratos's death but kinda just brought it up several times without even coming close to dying.... all in all 2018 and Ragnarok are my 2 favorite games 😁
Some people Just like Beeing assholes sadly, the worst part Is that for example:
Dude points out random issue that has no base, same bullshit like "now it's woke" (beacause apparently akbowledging emotions Is bad now)
I respond sayng that the game ha sactual issues ecc ecc
I get called a fanboy cause of course
They pull the fanboy card when they lose the argument
Anyone calling this game “woke” needs to go outside
Good video dude, it’s nice to see someone who actually pay attention to this game.
Apparently, unlike you.
@@AdelaideBen1 What are you on about it?
The only thing I didn’t like about this game was Thor and Odin’s death felt unsatisfying. Maybe I just had too high of expectations, but Zeus‘s death was nice then Odin just kind of falls and dies.
That's the whole fucking point of God of War (2018) and God of War Ragnarok in terms of Kratos' character, Kratos DESPISED his old self, he flat out got a PTSD when the fog in Helheim recreated Zeus' death in his hand, and unlike Zeus or Ares, neither Thor nor Odin ever did wrong by him PERSONALLY, if you think about, Odin never even threaten Atreus directly, so Kratos has no quarel with Odin, which is why Kratos doesn't end him the way he end Zeus... in fact, it would make NO sense if Kratos suddenly goes ham on Odin during that final fight cause that would look like a cheap moment of morbid nostalgia
@@ariqsyafwan4987 well technically Odin did hold Atreus with a knife to his neck and if he had killed him. It would've def been GOW 3 Kratos time. But of course he didn't and so Kratos came in as a protector and I love that and showed mercy and empathy to Thor and kept his promise to Freya of not taking away her choices of life and death. Kratos even pritiorized helping and saving the innocents in the way of Ragnarok. I do think the final fights between Thor and Odin and Ragnarok battle could've been longer and have some more phases and transitions and more challenging but in terms of the conclusion/outcome of the fights and ending it was brilliant, emotional, cathartic, and beautifully fulfilling Kratos', Atreus', and Freya's arcs.
Bro is the parry god, Bro is him he did not miss a single parry
Also 10/10 game but who cares we already know that
He clearly picked the dumbest people to try and prove his biased point. The game is great but it could have been better…plenty of people admit that many thing that were built up in the last game were underwhelming in this game. It is very apparent that they rushed a 3 game story into 2. Thor and Odin actually DIDN’T live up to Mimir and everyone else’s stories. Ragnarok was built up in the last game and it was underwhelming. The best I can explain this is to compare this story to the last 2 seasons of game of thrones. The battle between Thor and jormungandr was boring and from a distance. clearly rushed. Actually you could say everything leading up to the “big” final battle was clearly rushed. Kratos and Atreus don’t unite the realms against Odin…all of that was done offscreen. The Valkyries pop up out of nowhere with Freya, FUCKING Mimir went to bring Hellheim into the end of the story. The fucking SIDE characters went and did shit that COULD easily make for some of the best things in the game and clearly where meant to be. The game IS rushed…like Brok said things aren’t coming together true. Fenrir did jack shit in the end, Ragnarok did jack shit, and there was no Hel. The mechanics are amazing, graphics, score, gameplay wise it was amazing but here people are acting like this story was 100% intended to be this way. Cory is old and clearly wanted to see more of his future ideas in games so he cut his Norse story short. Baldur’s fight as a fucking whole was on a bigger scale than the entire Ragnarok final siege of Asguard. The ending that has been hyped for every fucking marketing opportunity by this company “Ragnarok” this and that was a whimper compared to the Garm encounter, Nidhoggr, and that chefs kiss Baldur battle from last game. You can deny all you want but clearly the devs rushed the game and you dickriding the RUSHED story doesn’t change that. I was looking forward to this game…the sole reason why I got a PS5 at all and it doesn’t even beat the PERFECT story that was last game. Last game had weight and emotional impact…only time I felt anything in this game was when Atreus leaves in the end and I’m FUCKING STUCK a with FREYA’s BORING FUCKING DIALOGUE. How can you look at this game and go…yeah lmao this is totally how everyone thought it was going to go down. Odin kills Thor FINE…but he kills him IN 1 fucking shot? Nigga got stabbed in his wound 2 ducking times and took that like a champ but Odin lands one hit and kills the STRONGEST GOD IN NORSE MYTHOLOGY. For fucks sakes the DRAUPNIR RING is talked about in this fucking game….MORE THAN GUNGNIR?!!! The SPEAR THAT NEVER FUCKING MISSES?! Rushed, clearly lots of usable content thrown away to get through this phase of god of war as fast as possible. This game should be called God of War : size of ocean depth of puddle. I did every side quest and everything about them was great but the meaning they have to the narrative was minimal to non existent. Lmao go kill dragons for the ecosystem LMAOOO get the fuck OUT OF HERE. In the last game every fucking side quest is deep. In this one 90% of the side quest have zero value to the main story, or characters. Faye fought Thor and it meant jack shit to the fucking story…so why the FUCK was it even there…just because lmao…”she kept secrets” WE KNOW THIS NIGGA..Magni and Modi’s death were downplayed like a mother fucker…EVERYTHING THAT a was HEAVILY EMPHASIZED aim the last game meant jack shit. Odin dies, Thor dies, Kratos grows as a better person and Atreus goes on his own…that as an ending is great but how it’s done makes zero sense. Odin…ODIN TALKED LIKE A FUCKING 2022 business man. Nigga why are his mannerisms so fucking weird?! Game of thrones all over again… FUCK making sense LETS JUST agent wild 😜 UNEXPECTED. Fuck out of here lmao
i just watched from Synthetic Man in middle i just stopped, calling Angrboda ''token black character'', freya beeing strong is apparently femministic and he hates when women is something more than idk walking sex tox, and of course kratos having any character dev and arc is bad cuz he aint killing gods every sunday and him saying he would let freya kill him is character assasination god damn lack of critical thinking
Synthetic Man is one of those Red Pill incels who think any strong female characters in media is just feminist woke garbage.
Granted Angrboda being black is stupid as Hell.
She might as well have gone to Africa with her disguise.
@@OrochiJr97if theres a black person or a female they are “woke” apparently 🤦♂️
@@spoodermanreal A black character in a game based on Norse Mythology makes no sense.
I would have made the same exact complain if a white character was added to a game based on African Mythology.
Angrboda is redhead even in the myths hahaha
another blackwashing for the minority of hairs
There are definitely unanswered questions…who the fuck blew the horn to summon Jorm when Atreus was “sick” ? We still don’t know who lol
I think someone said it better: “In that moment, Kratos didn’t care who blew that horn as it didn’t matter. What did matter was the safety of his own son”. -Zero
It’s definitely gonna be a big reveal in a later game.although in my opinion it was probably Athena
For me personally the one thing I don’t like is about the Thor and Odin fights is that they weren’t longer, at least for me I wish that they had made 3 games instead of 2 so that I can experience this story even more and have even more screen time for all the characters
The game isn’t bad, but absolutely disappointing. Newly introduced characters such as Freyr, Tyr, Thrud and even Odin are just paper thin, 1 dimensional characters, Ragnarok itself was only 30 minutes long in a 20 hour game, absolutely abysmal moments such as Iron Woods (and pretty much every other Atreus section), Freya forgiving Kratos in the first 3 hours of the game, the game being afraid of it being over the top (Kratos fought Baldur pretty much all across Midgard in their final battle with Jormungandrr and a reanimated dead Giant interfering in their battle, while Kratos fought Thor in the Pig Pin) and the absolute wasted potential of characters such as Fenrir, Angrboda and Odin