Beautiful concert! These four masters melt here in a powerful, expansive way. Insanely tight! ... And by the way, some people criticize this concert for the same kind of reasons people criticized "Bitches Brew" back in the day, It's just disguised in other words, like "the dj is annoying, what's he doing?" kinda thing. Evolutionary music is not always easy for the ears, for it requiers deep listening and total surrender.
Good call. I find it surprising that so many comments seem to take issue with the dj and nobody takes issue with the radically different approach that DB takes. I think that dj adds a nice touch. It reminds me of Merzbow playing with Boris.
i think Disk is killer...... i just want to see DJs start employing EFX(i.e. pedals or rack gear with knobs and faders).... i see it as another way to introduce "surprise dynamics" to their individual techniques.... you know, dub up that scratch, or flange and reverse that chop n screw..... ya never know, some quark spice in the "stone soup" could simmer into a real Bitches Brew.....
after some hard bop / early seventies jazz listening I think this is very ear pleasing. Laswell and de Johnette give it such a great groove. Bailey's "language" just need to be translated as mentioned below, it makes sense.
Derek Bailey is a very misunderstood musician.He is not speaking English. he is speaking a foreign language and you have to understand that to appreciate what he is doing.
LOVE this!!!! but the questions still lingers after 20 years, WHY DONT DJs USE EFX PEDALS????????? they are missing out on a ton of new expressive possibilities....!
Watching the dj's fingers up close and it made me wonder...are there any tabla players out there who also dj? That would probably be real dope, as those dudes have microchips in their fingertips...
@@sideshowbob They only use them for finding the cue on their next record while playing it on a channel that doesn't go into the main mix. Once they start playing that record, they don't need them anymore until the next one.
I love scratching but this makes it seem so annoying. If I were an outsider to the instrument I would definitely find it so. I really wish they had a guy like D Styles or Ricci Rucker instead. Either of those guys would have demonstrated some really intricate and funky scratching to the masses. No offense to Disk though, he's doing his own thing.
haha, yea, i agree. but i dont know if you believe me but many of his fans really are his fans because of those stupid "cool" scratches just because are scratches even though are stupid
What is really stupid is what you said ,, it don't make any sense and by the way what do you do for a living ?? Try doing something in life that makes sense and creative like Disk ,,
great gig - it’s amazing how locked-in bailey is with the turntable
God, they really do compliment each other eh?
Any way you slice it- it's some funky dub!
Thank you Bill, Jack, Derek, and Disk.
Derek Bailey is absolutely amazing!
actually this is excellent. .Laswell an deJohnette set up the groove and Bailey and the DJ speak over it in a foreign language. It works
These are mind expanding sounds!!!
Beautiful concert! These four masters melt here in a powerful, expansive way. Insanely tight! ... And by the way, some people criticize this concert for the same kind of reasons people criticized "Bitches Brew" back in the day, It's just disguised in other words, like "the dj is annoying, what's he doing?" kinda thing. Evolutionary music is not always easy for the ears, for it requiers deep listening and total surrender.
Good call. I find it surprising that so many comments seem to take issue with the dj and nobody takes issue with the radically different approach that DB takes. I think that dj adds a nice touch. It reminds me of Merzbow playing with Boris.
i think Disk is killer...... i just want to see DJs start employing EFX(i.e. pedals or rack gear with knobs and faders).... i see it as another way to introduce "surprise dynamics" to their individual techniques.... you know, dub up that scratch, or flange and reverse that chop n screw..... ya never know, some quark spice in the "stone soup" could simmer into a real Bitches Brew.....
Yes, you have to give it time
Yeah you put the efx into the transmuter
What marvelous musical alchemy ... Thank you for sharing this.
Strong Excotic Rythm combined with Anton Webern Guitar in Wide of Improvisation... Its Liberty...Its COSMIC....
joyous, simply joyous!
A truely real super group!!!
The sounds of doomsday and transmutations. This is killar music, not for the fainthearted. And i´m not scratching anybody´s back.
still love it!!
after some hard bop / early seventies jazz listening I think this is very ear pleasing. Laswell and de Johnette give it such a great groove. Bailey's "language" just need to be translated as mentioned below, it makes sense.
HIT!
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Derek Bailey is a very misunderstood musician.He is not speaking English. he is speaking a foreign language and you have to understand that to appreciate what he is doing.
The Ben Watson book on Derek is excellent if you haven’t read it.
LOVE IT!
LOVE this!!!!
but the questions still lingers after 20 years, WHY DONT DJs USE EFX PEDALS?????????
they are missing out on a ton of new expressive possibilities....!
someone teach DJs what their efx loop is for, on their mixers.....
I know right? AT LEAST they could use them to smooth out their sounds a little bit. It all sounds so dry and thin
Mix master mike does
DJ Jazzy Jeff does. I sold a Boss Looper to the DJ who works Timberwolves games.
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Bill is the deal
Boys, play some fine melody.... here you go!
Make sure you stay for Jack's drum solo.
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Grateful Dead 1974...? And great Liberation Music quote....
Greg Kellogg LOL
so nice a new way in Hystorical Avant Garde in Music Jeffrey Dean
cool
I honestly couldn't tell you who won.
Around 35:50 you can hear Bill clearly playing Charlie Haden's "Song for Che!"
Watching the dj's fingers up close and it made me wonder...are there any tabla players out there who also dj? That would probably be real dope, as those dudes have microchips in their fingertips...
Why do most DJ's have headphones around their neck but never put them over their ears?
@@sideshowbob :DD
@@sideshowbob They only use them for finding the cue on their next record while playing it on a channel that doesn't go into the main mix. Once they start playing that record, they don't need them anymore until the next one.
Looks like a 16" bass drum Dejohnette is using-- sounds surprisingly bass drummy. Nice tone.
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sasha king crimson.
anyone know if this group has recorded together?
Arcana featuring Derek Bailey, Bill Laswell, Tony Williams
And now I will play a Hans Reichel record...
or improvvised. Jeffrey Dean
Hmmm -- I'm a huge fan of Bailey and DeJohnette. But I'm not hearing this as a cohesive sound.
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I love scratching but this makes it seem so annoying. If I were an outsider to the instrument I would definitely find it so. I really wish they had a guy like D Styles or Ricci Rucker instead. Either of those guys would have demonstrated some really intricate and funky scratching to the masses. No offense to Disk though, he's doing his own thing.
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haha, yea, i agree. but i dont know if you believe me but many of his fans really are his fans because of those stupid "cool" scratches just because are scratches even though are stupid
What is really stupid is what you said ,, it don't make any sense and by the way what do you do for a living ?? Try doing something in life that makes sense and creative like Disk ,,
that scratching thing is so stupid, otherwise it would be a hell of a lot better
Ikr. I thought it was just an intro thing. There are defo some awsome moments though
But 9:07 takes it was too far
this is a trio with a non musiciain in the way playing silly noises it sucks this is not music nor jazz it sucks
Non musicians make some of the most original music going.
Ken Serio Dinner jazz sucks, Ken.
ok, boomer ...