The Old Churches of Old Brisbane Part 1

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  • @divarachelenvy
    @divarachelenvy 2 роки тому +4

    Love your shows thank you..

  • @brittanykimber2339
    @brittanykimber2339 2 роки тому +5

    Hi Rob, great video! Thank you for coming into the Cathedral of St. Stephen. We would be delighted to give you another tour and explain all the art to you! - Brittany, Cathedral guide

    • @walkaboutwithrob
      @walkaboutwithrob  2 роки тому +1

      @Brittany Lee thanks indeed for the offer. Next time I'm in the City I'll swing by.

  • @daviddenham2971
    @daviddenham2971 8 місяців тому +1

    I found recently after a weekend of visiting Churches in South East Queensland that I found my favourite for build and design was St Mark's in Warwick. Beautiful building with the organ in the best spot. At the back of the Church with the sound resonating through the building.

  • @sonnyjoon
    @sonnyjoon 2 роки тому +3

    Super interesting video Rob!! So interesting to see the pockets of history tucked in brisbanes cbd.

  • @24inchchromes
    @24inchchromes 2 роки тому +3

    I’ve long enjoyed these buildings from the outside but haven’t had the courage to venture inside lest I be struck down by their god. Great video, Rob.

  • @wendybrealey8368
    @wendybrealey8368 2 роки тому +3

    Brilliant. I always though high Anglican was closer to Catholicism with a bit more “pomp” and ritual (and more conservative in approach) but not sure. I have often wondered what the insides of these churches looked like but not been game or had the time to investigate so thanks for taking us on a tour and history lesson! Now to watch part 2 😁

  • @kieranosullivan445
    @kieranosullivan445 2 роки тому +3

    Great stuff.

  • @andrewclarkson1942
    @andrewclarkson1942 2 роки тому +2

    Good work - thanks for exploring Brisbane and surrounds for me.

  • @GlenChamberlain
    @GlenChamberlain 2 роки тому +2

    Very relaxing and informative, thanks 🙏

  • @raysieber9233
    @raysieber9233 2 роки тому +2

    Looking forward to part 2. Good work I've past everyone one of these and via my work protected the same but never seen inside. A blight of a busy life not to look at the things right in front of you. Keep up the good work

  • @shellebelle53
    @shellebelle53 Рік тому +1

    So so beautiful to see inside those old churches. I would love to hear Bohemian Rhapsody played on one of those pipe organs...it'd be epic.

  • @julieschipplock9439
    @julieschipplock9439 2 роки тому +2

    That was really enjoyable Rob, love looking at old churches, didn’t realise we had so many, nice to see them getting the recognition they deserve. Looking forward to Pt 2. 🙂

  • @happyjoyjoy6976
    @happyjoyjoy6976 2 роки тому +2

    hiya Rob,i havent been on your channel for a couple of years,was pleasantly surprised at your sub numbers mate,so good to see.and congratulations mate,any channel on theirtube that deserves to grow its yours good sir.great video Sir,i have quite a lot to catch up from your video collection.have a great easter mate and much love to you and your family 🤗💕

  • @raindog428
    @raindog428 2 роки тому +3

    My favourite church out of this video is st.mary.I cracked up at the 'I don't do impressions 'and then the look into the camera made even funnier hearing that u r an atheist.Also really smooth camera work and u are so laid back it makes me wonder if yr a banana bender by birth?.I hope that isn't a derogatory term,if so I apologise.Its been 16 yrs since I've been in my home state I miss it so yr relaxing videos mean something to me,so ta for that I 🙂

    • @walkaboutwithrob
      @walkaboutwithrob  2 роки тому

      @Adele Wall nope, not a banana-bender. Sydney born and bred though been in Brisbane for many years. Where did you move to?

    • @raindog428
      @raindog428 2 роки тому

      @@walkaboutwithrob I crossed the ditch into tasmania

    • @raindog428
      @raindog428 2 роки тому

      @@walkaboutwithrob I spent a couple of years living between the 5 ways and st Vincent hospital in the early 90s,doing exactly what yr doing,(but without a camera )in this chanel..jeez I put in some miles in that city

  • @keithbond9174
    @keithbond9174 2 роки тому +1

    This is where my wife and I were married in Dex 1975. Thank you for the excellent coverage.

    • @walkaboutwithrob
      @walkaboutwithrob  2 роки тому

      @Keith Bond which church were you married in?

    • @keithbond9174
      @keithbond9174 2 роки тому

      Hold Trinity Abglican church in the Valley Rob. I follow tour walks with great interest. I have just one criticism. Etiquette and formalities decree that a man removes headgear in a church.

    • @theoztreecrasher2647
      @theoztreecrasher2647 2 роки тому +1

      @@keithbond9174 That is correct and something that I, even as a pure Atheist, generally adhere to. I am glad that you would also wear a turban and sequester your wife and female relatives accompanying you in a full burqa on visiting a Mosque.

  • @LIFELOSTINPARADISE
    @LIFELOSTINPARADISE 2 роки тому +1

    Hi Rob. I’m really enjoying your videos. I would love to see videos on Toowoomba and the bridges that cross the Brisbane river. I grew up in Toowoomba and would love to hear some of the history. Also my grandfather was the project manager when the merivale bridge was built in the 70s and has always help a special place in my heart.

  • @paulh54
    @paulh54 2 роки тому +1

    David Court was the second rector of St Mary's. He married one of my great grand aunts - Hanna, my great grandmother's sister.

  • @glenystranter2713
    @glenystranter2713 2 роки тому +1

    The Priest that you were referring to at Holy Trinity, Fortitude Valley was Trevor Bulled, he passed away a few years ago. The current Priest-In-Charge at Holy Trinity does not live in the rectory, that is why there isn't much furniture in it.

  • @fortunateson7852
    @fortunateson7852 2 роки тому +4

    Fun fact. You won’t find any Catholic Churches in Australia older than 1850. That was the year they were first allowed to build churches. In the early days there was a lot of animosity with the Papists because Australia was considered a Protestant country.

    • @Diggles67
      @Diggles67 Рік тому +1

      Also Irish Catholics were considered a threat to British rule as hostilities continued in Ireland.

    • @NiftyNifty-ws8rj
      @NiftyNifty-ws8rj 3 місяці тому

      To clarify, from 1788, effectively all of Australia was under British military rule (martial law) with British appointed Governors and everyone following orders which originated in London. Since Henry the 8th, by royal decree, the Episcoplian/Church of England/Anglicans was the official church of Britain. In Brisbane, British military officers conducted Anglican-only religious services to soldiers and convicts. With the 1836 Church Act, Governor Bourke abolished the status of the Anglican Church as the state church of New South Wales, declaring each religious denomination on equal footing before the law. He also increased spending on education and attempted to set up a system of public nondenominational schools. He was credited as the first governor to publish satisfactory accounts of public receipts and expenditures.
      Circa 1838, German Lutherans were permitted to establish a mission to "convert the heathen" local tribes, on allocated land in what is now Nundah (i.e. outside the limits of penal colony, where no other settlers were permitted). Circa 1840, as part of transition from Penal Colony to free settlement town, the first Brisbane church of any denomination, was St John’s Anglican. This church was masonry, convict built circa 1830, originally as a soldiers barracks and then used as a convict workshop before being repurposed as a church. The first St John's church building was located in lumber yard at the SW corner of Queen Street and North Quay (now part of Reddacliff Place).
      In May 1840 the document was signed in London, formalising the British Government's decision to end convict transportation to the East Coast colonies. It took until August 1840 for the order in Council prohibiting transportation (of convicts) to the east coast of Australia to become effective.
      The last convict ship to arrive in Sydney as part of the old transportation system was the Eden, which arrived in late 1840. The idea of convict transportation was not, however, entirely dead. There were further attempts to revive it over the following ten years (sqattocracy and their British financiers did not want to pay free settlers a living wage, instead they wanted cheap labour assigned to them, with no right to move elsewhere).
      The first drays brought over Cunningham’s Gap, arrived Moreton Bay/Brisbane on Oct 19 1840 . In 1840 the first non-missionary, free settlers arrived in Brisbane.
      Most of the British military and remaining convicts departed Brisbane by circa 1842, when the town was opened for free settlers. The Lutheran Mission failed/was closed but German Lutherans remained and farmed the area. Post all military occupation, initially there was only one civilian Anglican minister in Brisbane, who baptised, married & buried only Anglicans, early civilian Lutheran, Baptists, Catholics etc are not in early C of E-only records, (very "Christian" attitude) When more religions were represented in Brisbane, the problem shifted to more remote areas, where not all religions were represented by their church, this church practice of only looking after their own, continued into at least circa mid 1850’s Only overcome by subsequent legislated State and National record keeping, particularly Births, Deaths and Marriages.
      Convicts and military on other hand, were recorded as for goods/chattels, regardless of religion.
      Re Old St Stephen's.
      The land at the site was originally planned for church purposes in 1847. Six allotments of section 33 were set aside for the use of the Roman Catholic Church in September 1848 with the original deeds of grant being signed by Charles Fitzroy in November 1849 (Queensland did not separate from New South Wales until 1859).
      From the early days of free settlement, Brisbane's Catholic population was significant with Catholics comprising 30% of residents in 1846. In 1849 and 1850 the New South Wales Government, under provisions of Governor Richard Bourke's 1836 Church Act, subsidised the building of Old St Stephen's Church, which was opened on 12 May 1850.
      On October 31,1849 the first exile ship, Mount Stuart Elphinstone arrived Moreton Bay
      NOTE: “Exiles” was a new euphemism for convict labour, organised specifically to circumvent abolition of transportation of convicts to NSW. This virtual slave labour continued for another 10 or so years.

  • @annebynon
    @annebynon Рік тому +1

    There are Mayne family stained glass windows in St Stephens. Think it might have been a redemption effort. Cheers.

  • @Mattlikes2skate
    @Mattlikes2skate 8 місяців тому

    Little knights Templar symbol carved on the brick next to window very interesting

    • @walkaboutwithrob
      @walkaboutwithrob  8 місяців тому

      It's actually a stonemasons mark. Nothing to do with the templars.

    • @Mattlikes2skate
      @Mattlikes2skate 8 місяців тому

      @@walkaboutwithrob have you googled the templars symbol? It’s literally identical I couldn’t find anything anywhere on stone mason marks or their symbols

    • @walkaboutwithrob
      @walkaboutwithrob  8 місяців тому +1

      @@Mattlikes2skate The military order of the Knights Templar was disbanded in the 14th century. That's 500 years before the little chapel of St. Stephen's was built in Brisbane. There is therefore no connection between the two. Stonemasons have their own individual ways of marking their work, like a signature. The cross in the chapel also looks like the German Iron Cross, which actually originated in Prussia in the mid to late 19th century. Again, there is no connection.

    • @Mattlikes2skate
      @Mattlikes2skate 8 місяців тому

      @@walkaboutwithrob just because the Templar was abandoned 500 years before the church does not disprove a connection the church itself was built long after the death of Christ but they are connected.
      A length of time between the 2 doesn’t disprove anything
      The Templar Cross and the Schwarzes Kreuz of the Bundeswehr are both variants the Cross Patee. The connection between the two is the Teutonic Knights, another militant order of the Crusades
      The templars were literally a military order of the catholic faith and they did crusades for the church, Templar’s and churches have had a lot in common for hundreds and hundreds of years.
      Not saying it 100% is a Templar cross but to say it’s 100% not one is silly

    • @terraintrailtartaria
      @terraintrailtartaria 5 місяців тому

      ​@@Mattlikes2skateA lot of the churches in Australia I strongly believe are much older than the history (his-story) books tell us as we know Australia has been called many things Terra Australis and New Holland...I think a lot of these structures are built before the first fleet see how the man in this talks about fires and buildings having to be rebuilt that is a key sign in a continuous pattern across the world that these old buildings are built previously to our civilisation it's seems they just stumbled across them the photos we see of construction especially from elledged 1800's structures is 9×10 buildings that are already completed with typical painting scaffolding around them so they either just put a fresh coat of paint or engraved a 1800's date or put a plaque out the front and that's all they needed back than to prove they built the structures...Furthermore we see little to no proof of what companies were contracted where the materials came from this is prior to power tools so they try to tell us they moved this stuff with horse and cart through mud roads through rain ,hail and shine my hypothesises is if a said structure that is in either Sydney,Melbourne etc that has a elleged date of a early to mid 1800's date that has history of a fire or earthquake or problems with the foundation where it had to be rebuilt,remodelled etc to me that is a red flag secondly if the structure has a date engraved on it or a plaque claiming a 1800's date and especially if the word founded is used thats another red flag and finally if the said structure is one of the many Revival architectural desings it's the 3rd and last final red flag...Now let's do some simple math 3×Red Flags = Previous Civilisations Work

  • @christopherhawke2613
    @christopherhawke2613 2 роки тому +3

    Hi Rob - it is not what religion you are CofE or RC or any other, it is a relationship with Jesus that matters. You do not need to belong to any denomination to have a relationship

    • @walkaboutwithrob
      @walkaboutwithrob  2 роки тому +1

      @Christopher Hawke, yes I've heard people say that. I just don't believe in any gods, deities or supernatural beings.

    • @alanchant8594
      @alanchant8594 Рік тому

      @@walkaboutwithrob Hi Rob, It's not often that God gives us proof of his existence, but here is one for you to check out. Take a look into the image of Our Lady of Guadalupe which is currently on display in Mexico. It has many aspects to it that science cannot explain and it is one of the few things that pretty much conclusively confirms its supernatural origin. I would really encourage you to take a look, I was amazed when I found out about it and I have been a believer all my life. Maybe it would make a good next video for you. Take care, Alan

  • @SilkyS1LK1ESilk
    @SilkyS1LK1ESilk 9 місяців тому

    maybe its an escape in case Viking turn up ;)

  • @NiftyNifty-ws8rj
    @NiftyNifty-ws8rj 3 місяці тому

    When he was mayor, Clem Jones badly wanted to destroy Ann st Presbyterian church, so he could make King George Square car park bigger. The Church and public eventually beat city hall.

  • @randychristensen8766
    @randychristensen8766 2 роки тому

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