I just wanted to mention Rob that there is absolutely no expectation of a donation at St John’s Cathedral. Anyone is welcome to visit anytime. I’ll let the clergy know that people have gotten that impression though - they’ll be horrified! Thank you again for the video!
I spent the first 40 years of my life in Brisbane but haven't lived there (or Australia) for over 16 years, so your videos are quite nostalgic for me, thank you.
Hi Rob. Interesting fact about St. Johns. The hand-carved pews at the front were done soley by 3 generations of men. Started by the Grandfather, continued by the Father and lastly by the son. Again, amazing video. You're one of a kind.
My Grandparents were married in St Paul's Presbyterian Church in 1960. I was fortunate to have visited it a couple of times as a child and remember going up the bell tower.
I'm not sure exactly, but the brass vent things in St Paul's look a bit like cavity vents. Stone walls typically have an inside and an outside layer of stone. The space between these layers was traditionally filled with a mix of gravel, sand and rubble bound with a weak mortar. This links the two layers of stone together so that they can both help stabilize each other. This method has some disadvantages though. Primarily, because stone is porous, water gradually seeps through the outer layer. If the core is filled with rubble, the water can soak through this core and start to find it's way into the interior stone skin. Secondly, the weak mortar in the core is water soluble, so if water seeps in, the core can slowly disintegrate. This both destabilizes the wall and leaves behind a void that will fill up with mould and make the building musty. A better method for building stone walls would be to leave the space between the inner and outer stone as an empty cavity. This way, water that seeps through the outside stone can't get across the cavity to the inside stone. The problem is that the outside and inside skins of the wall still need to be linked together across this cavity to support each other. In the mid 1800s steel became cheap enough that this connection across the cavity could be done with steel bars, and cavity construction became popular from this time onwards. Of course, if small voids in a traditional stone wall would fill up with mould, a single large cavity inside the stonework would also suffer from this problem. Fortunately, if your wall has a single large cavity, it is possible to ventilate it with strategically placed openings either inside or outside. I can't see any in the video, but if you looked around the outside of St Paul's, you might have found vents or gaps in the outside stonework down near the ground. Also, the symbols in the windows at St Mary's are all various religious devices. You are probably familiar with the fish device that is associated with Christianity. These symbols are similar devices. With regard to the dollar sign looking one you pointed out, it is actually the three letters IHS all superimposed on each other. These letters are the Latin equivalents of the three greek letters ΙΗΣ which are the first three letters of Jesus, in Greek.
These three videos have been great, Rob. You're right, these grand old examples of fine architecture don't get seen by many. Thankfully they survive, unlike many of the theatres that have been lost across Brisbane.
Thanks for another fascinating episode and taking us into the nooks and crannies and places we normally couldn’t see, even if we visited. I must make the effort to check a few more out, after all it’s what you do when visiting cities overseas but one forgets (or didn’t know of!) these grand old buildings here in Brissie.
19:20 The Pancake Manor was a pretty regular eatery for me when I used to work, and visit the city in the 70s and 80s. My go-to was Californian Pancakes. Pancakes with bacon and eggs, whipped butter and maple syrup. Any time of the day. We even played chess on the big board in the middle of the floor, I think where that central bar is. The place has changed a lot since I first went there. I opped in about 8-years ago and it just didn't have the atmosphere of the old days.
Rob Absolutely gorgeous churches, but there you go one walk past not venture inside these to appreciate the beautiful architecture and history thx once again for the tour next time I'm in the CBD i want rush to get to the Bus to get home i might drop in to one of the many lovely places you visit.
4:50 Off-topic but back in the 70s when you took the elevator up to the bell tower in city hall, you'd bass stacks and stacks of city record books stored in alcoves up the tower.
Another set of my great grandparents (my maternal grandmother's parents) were married in the 2nd St Paul's Church in Creek St in 1884. Their son was E.R.B. Jordan, a very well known conductor and chorister, played the organ at the current St Paul's for any years. He ran the Brisbane Austral Choir for many years which was a forerunner of the Queensland Choir.
31:10 We used to explore the old foundations and I would often stop and hang out at those steps for a while. Fast Forward nearly 50 years and I was delivering groceries to the apartments on that site.
The building near the second plaque at St. John’s cathedral is old st martins war memorial hospital finished in 1922.it was run by the sisters of the sacred advent an anglican order of nuns who run st Margaret school.It closed in 1971 and they built st Martin nursing home.I have a wooden tray that they used for patient meals and an old iron bed that was used in the nurses quarters on the top floor.
@@walkaboutwithrob my mother was the dean of the cathedral’s secretary and they needed somebody to clear out st martins hospital in the 1980s as it had become a bit of a doss house my dad did a lot of the tiding up and sold the furniture to second hand stores. We kids got a bit of the leftovers ,the building is now used as offices for the clergy.
That’s awesome Rob. I checked out your stats as a film director your film got a screening in NY your trailer looks awesome. Hope to definitely see more of Brisbane through your lens. 😊
I've heard it said you can see what a generation values/loves by its buildings. 1800 churches, today gyms. Makes me think how much we've become to love/value self
woooooow , that was 43 years ago maybe more , man how time can fly past your eyes faster than a jet, man thats a whole life time ago ,,,,very deliscious pancakes and that butter yuuum.
Hey Rob, once again great job on the video. I'm a bit late to the party but I have a comment to make about the time in ST. Pauls church. @2:33 time stamp you can hear a woman's voice say "Amen" whispering into the mic. I heard it as I was watching this with headphones. I assume you were all alone in that church, was it a Ghost???
@Usualmike Television I didn't notice anything in the audio when I was editing it, but when I listened to it just now with my earphones I did hear a woman's voice whisper something. Can't be certain she said "Amen", but something was definitely there...
good on you!....always wondered as I waited for a train on Platform 2 at Central what was inside that huge , rather severe brick structure before me...ta
@@walkaboutwithrobYou are right. Architecturally, they're not as old, but some have interesting designs and history with their communities that might be worth exploring. From what i've read, St Nicholas Cathedral is the first Russian Orthodox church in Australia, and the Greek Orthodox Church of St George is the oldest for the Greek community in SE QLD. The Serbian Orthodox Church is comparitively newer, but also has an 1885 Methodist church on its premises and is also pretty interesting in its own right. There is also the South Brisbane Congregational Church (former) now renamed Saint Nicholas Free Serbian Orthodox Church that could be worth a visit.
I have really enjoyed this series & thank you. I may be (am) a bit old fashioned & do wish that you would have taken your hat off when entering the Churches....it used to be that gentlemen removed their hats when entering any building.
Dear walkaboutwithRob - can I ask if you know of the former Bulimba Gospel Hall that I attended from 1959 to 1963, situated in Wyandra Street, Teneriffe (off Commercial Road) that was dismantled in 1972 and moved to Kuraby as now Kuraby Christian Church. I know I have visited it at that location but I was wondering if you can find history when it was Bulimba Gospel Hall and that one reason I am asking is that if yourself can find a photo of Bulimba Gospel Hall when it was situated in Wyandra Street and that is the only photo in my research that is missing from my past files (memories) - or if anyone who is making comment here can help me out with a photo, I would appreciate it - thank you
Saint John’s Anglican Cathedral in Ann Street was only completed in 2009 with the addition of the western facade and towers, as well as a central tower, all in French gothic style as originally planned when work commenced in 1906. Local sculptor Ryhl Hindwood was commissioned to sculpt the statues on the front facade, completed a few years ago. Saint John’s also has the only fully stone vaulted ceiling in the southern hemisphere.
These three videos were really interesting. As you said, a part of Brisbane's history that most of walk past and never think about. Maybe you could do a fouth episode on the oldest Mosques, Budist Temples and Hindu Temples, Sinagogs and Orthodox Church of Brisbane and the history of their communities in Brisbane? Just a thought, might be interesting.
St Andrews in Ann St. Interesting Miss Margaret Green who was mistress at Kelvin Grove State High School left $500,000 to St Andrews for "outreach to young people". She attended there.
I'm really sorry the City Tabernacle Baptist Church would not let you go in and film there. It was my home church and I wrote my thesis for ordination as a minister on the history of that church. Willara House next door down upper Edward St used to be the Manse where the minister lived. The Church runs a Ladies Hostel there now. You can go in to the church on the Open Day of Buildings. If you go check out the pool, called a baptistry which is behind the pulpit. The church does not baptize infants but only baptizes adults by full immersion when they decide to become Christians. They are VERY anit-gay. I don't have anything to do with the church anymore. Its noteworthy that so many churches are no longer used as churches and it's indicative of society's view of relevance of the church.
@Ron Smith yes it was a shame they wouldn't allow it. I did reach out to them early on and at first they were sort of okay with it, but then they wanted me to delay my visit until they had done all kinds of upgrades and cleaning and whatnot. It didn't matter to me at all, I just wanted to see the church as it was. Further emails to them by me went unanswered so that was that. Thanks for all your comments and feedback. Most interesting.
What I dont understand is who paid for all the churches to be designed, built and maintained as well as the land and rates etc. Theres so much money involved for somrthing that doesnt really make any money.
Churches are usually built with private donations. If you want to learn about why people give money for the construction and upkeep of churches, you'll need to contact a church or vicar. As an atheist, I'm probably not the best person to ask...
@@walkaboutwithrob interesting. Im an athiest as well but churches mustve been a good investment back in the day. Imagine trying to find investors for a church today.
@@kizzjd9578 @walkaboutwithrob The Tithe is a tenth of of a parisheners wages going to Gods work in the church as suggested in the bible. This adds up pretty quickly obviously the more people in the congregation.
@@walkaboutwithrob Actually perhaps you should swap it for a hard hat considering the declining amount of upkeep being performed on these old superfluities.
I research extensively actually, but sometimes I’ll come across something while out and exploring that is totally unexpected or unusual. Therefore I will simply admit that I don’t know what it is. It is impossible for me to know literally everything before I set out.
You’re an absolute local legend. Thank you so much for your work!
@Harry you're more than welcome, thanks for the encouragement!
I just wanted to mention Rob that there is absolutely no expectation of a donation at St John’s Cathedral. Anyone is welcome to visit anytime. I’ll let the clergy know that people have gotten that impression though - they’ll be horrified! Thank you again for the video!
I spent the first 40 years of my life in Brisbane but haven't lived there (or Australia) for over 16 years, so your videos are quite nostalgic for me, thank you.
Just watched this again. Love it 😊❤
Hi Rob. Interesting fact about St. Johns. The hand-carved pews at the front were done soley by 3 generations of men. Started by the Grandfather, continued by the Father and lastly by the son. Again, amazing video. You're one of a kind.
My Grandparents were married in St Paul's Presbyterian Church in 1960. I was fortunate to have visited it a couple of times as a child and remember going up the bell tower.
The Pancake Manor was my go to in the 80's when I worked in the City
@shelleigh5993 I've also had one meal there (very tasty). Was meeting a strange lady there. This was years and years ago.
@walkaboutwithrob I used to love that place, minus the strange lady. Although... perhaps I could have been a strange lady thinking about it now 😆
Did she make you nervous, take you in and give you breakfast?? (Land down under)
@@shellebelle53 No but I bought her a scotch and coke. She had lots of freckles and wore very high heels.
@@walkaboutwithrob sounds interesting 😊
I'm not sure exactly, but the brass vent things in St Paul's look a bit like cavity vents.
Stone walls typically have an inside and an outside layer of stone. The space between these layers was traditionally filled with a mix of gravel, sand and rubble bound with a weak mortar. This links the two layers of stone together so that they can both help stabilize each other. This method has some disadvantages though. Primarily, because stone is porous, water gradually seeps through the outer layer. If the core is filled with rubble, the water can soak through this core and start to find it's way into the interior stone skin. Secondly, the weak mortar in the core is water soluble, so if water seeps in, the core can slowly disintegrate. This both destabilizes the wall and leaves behind a void that will fill up with mould and make the building musty.
A better method for building stone walls would be to leave the space between the inner and outer stone as an empty cavity. This way, water that seeps through the outside stone can't get across the cavity to the inside stone. The problem is that the outside and inside skins of the wall still need to be linked together across this cavity to support each other. In the mid 1800s steel became cheap enough that this connection across the cavity could be done with steel bars, and cavity construction became popular from this time onwards. Of course, if small voids in a traditional stone wall would fill up with mould, a single large cavity inside the stonework would also suffer from this problem. Fortunately, if your wall has a single large cavity, it is possible to ventilate it with strategically placed openings either inside or outside. I can't see any in the video, but if you looked around the outside of St Paul's, you might have found vents or gaps in the outside stonework down near the ground.
Also, the symbols in the windows at St Mary's are all various religious devices. You are probably familiar with the fish device that is associated with Christianity. These symbols are similar devices. With regard to the dollar sign looking one you pointed out, it is actually the three letters IHS all superimposed on each other. These letters are the Latin equivalents of the three greek letters ΙΗΣ which are the first three letters of Jesus, in Greek.
Great series! Really enjoyed learning about the history about these places. Looking forward to more of your videos!
24:40 duuude, that is so cool! Never imagined I'd get to see the world from that point of view. Honestly surreal.
Thanks! These are some of my fav videos so far
These three videos have been great, Rob. You're right, these grand old examples of fine architecture don't get seen by many. Thankfully they survive, unlike many of the theatres that have been lost across Brisbane.
Thanks Rob for sharing this experience, it was wonderful.😊🕍
Thanks for another fascinating episode and taking us into the nooks and crannies and places we normally couldn’t see, even if we visited. I must make the effort to check a few more out, after all it’s what you do when visiting cities overseas but one forgets (or didn’t know of!) these grand old buildings here in Brissie.
19:20 The Pancake Manor was a pretty regular eatery for me when I used to work, and visit the city in the 70s and 80s. My go-to was Californian Pancakes. Pancakes with bacon and eggs, whipped butter and maple syrup. Any time of the day. We even played chess on the big board in the middle of the floor, I think where that central bar is. The place has changed a lot since I first went there. I opped in about 8-years ago and it just didn't have the atmosphere of the old days.
Rob Absolutely gorgeous churches, but there you go one walk past not venture inside these to appreciate the beautiful architecture and history thx once again for the tour next time I'm in the CBD i want rush to get to the Bus to get home i might drop in to one of the many lovely places you visit.
4:50 Off-topic but back in the 70s when you took the elevator up to the bell tower in city hall, you'd bass stacks and stacks of city record books stored in alcoves up the tower.
Please come to Toowoomba and do St Patricks Cathedral.
Another set of my great grandparents (my maternal grandmother's parents) were married in the 2nd St Paul's Church in Creek St in 1884. Their son was E.R.B. Jordan, a very well known conductor and chorister, played the organ at the current St Paul's for any years. He ran the Brisbane Austral Choir for many years which was a forerunner of the Queensland Choir.
31:10 We used to explore the old foundations and I would often stop and hang out at those steps for a while. Fast Forward nearly 50 years and I was delivering groceries to the apartments on that site.
The building near the second plaque at St. John’s cathedral is old st martins war memorial hospital finished in 1922.it was run by the sisters of the sacred advent an anglican order of nuns who run st Margaret school.It closed in 1971 and they built st Martin nursing home.I have a wooden tray that they used for patient meals and an old iron bed that was used in the nurses quarters on the top floor.
@Sue Kennedy great info, thanks for sharing. How did you come by the plate and bed?
@@walkaboutwithrob my mother was the dean of the cathedral’s secretary and they needed somebody to clear out st martins hospital in the 1980s as it had become a bit of a doss house my dad did a lot of the tiding up and sold the furniture to second hand stores.
We kids got a bit of the leftovers ,the building is now used as offices for the clergy.
I enjoyed your video I'm from Beenleigh
@Tony McWhirter thanks indeed. Have you been away from Beenleigh for a long time?
Been watching your videos for the last 3 weeks. They are amazing. Subscribed.
@Bluetethmo 2020 thanks indeed! All being well some big new videos on the way.
That’s awesome Rob. I checked out your stats as a film director your film got a screening in NY your trailer looks awesome. Hope to definitely see more of Brisbane through your lens. 😊
wow many a time of my drunkard days i use to rock into that place , i can't believe it's still there , thats amazing that its still there..
I've heard it said you can see what a generation values/loves by its buildings. 1800 churches, today gyms. Makes me think how much we've become to love/value self
woooooow , that was 43 years ago maybe more , man how time can fly past your eyes faster than a jet, man thats a whole life time ago ,,,,very deliscious pancakes and that butter yuuum.
Hey Rob, once again great job on the video. I'm a bit late to the party but I have a comment to make about the time in ST. Pauls church. @2:33 time stamp you can hear a woman's voice say "Amen" whispering into the mic. I heard it as I was watching this with headphones. I assume you were all alone in that church, was it a Ghost???
@Usualmike Television I didn't notice anything in the audio when I was editing it, but when I listened to it just now with my earphones I did hear a woman's voice whisper something. Can't be certain she said "Amen", but something was definitely there...
good on you!....always wondered as I waited for a train on Platform 2 at Central what was inside that huge , rather severe brick structure before me...ta
I was waiting to see the Greek Orthodox Church in south Brisbane
Great series, Rob. If you get a chance, you should visit some of the Orthodox churches in the South Brisbane area.
@RandOm-xc4qi Which ones are you thinking of? I thought I covered most of the historic churches...
@@walkaboutwithrobYou are right. Architecturally, they're not as old, but some have interesting designs and history with their communities that might be worth exploring. From what i've read, St Nicholas Cathedral is the first Russian Orthodox church in Australia, and the Greek Orthodox Church of St George is the oldest for the Greek community in SE QLD. The Serbian Orthodox Church is comparitively newer, but also has an 1885 Methodist church on its premises and is also pretty interesting in its own right. There is also the South Brisbane Congregational Church (former) now renamed Saint Nicholas Free Serbian Orthodox Church that could be worth a visit.
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I have really enjoyed this series & thank you. I may be (am) a bit old fashioned & do wish that you would have taken your hat off when entering the Churches....it used to be that gentlemen removed their hats when entering any building.
To be honest I never even thought about it. Since then I do take my hat off in church.
In St Lukes there supposed to be a ghost that roams about.
I wonder if all 3 parts can be made into a dvd
@Christopher Hawke it's a lovely idea for sure!
Dear walkaboutwithRob - can I ask if you know of the former Bulimba Gospel Hall that I attended from 1959 to 1963, situated in Wyandra Street, Teneriffe (off Commercial Road) that was dismantled in 1972 and moved to Kuraby as now Kuraby Christian Church. I know I have visited it at that location but I was wondering if you can find history when it was Bulimba Gospel Hall and that one reason I am asking is that if yourself can find a photo of Bulimba Gospel Hall when it was situated in Wyandra Street and that is the only photo in my research that is missing from my past files (memories) - or if anyone who is making comment here can help me out with a photo, I would appreciate it - thank you
@Christopher Hawke Had a look but couldn't find anything. Have you tried the Bulimba Historical Society? www.bulimbahistory.org
Love your videos... That '$' sign means IHS (Jesus saviour of mankind)
I think st Stephens was only finished a few years ago?. Is that right?. I’ve not been there for long time I’m in Sydney now .
you're thinking St Johns
Saint John’s Anglican Cathedral in Ann Street was only completed in 2009 with the addition of the western facade and towers, as well as a central tower, all in French gothic style as originally planned when work commenced in 1906. Local sculptor Ryhl Hindwood was commissioned to sculpt the statues on the front facade, completed a few years ago. Saint John’s also has the only fully stone vaulted ceiling in the southern hemisphere.
I honestly think there's something wrong with the dates as some of these buildings appear to be mud flooded
There’s no such thing as the mud flood. It’s made up.
Most folk aren’t ready to take a closer look, Peter. Glad to see another awake folk in Brissy 💪🏻
I attended the Brisbane eistford, in the church hall Never can spell that word it was in the early 1970s .
These three videos were really interesting. As you said, a part of Brisbane's history that most of walk past and never think about. Maybe you could do a fouth episode on the oldest Mosques, Budist Temples and Hindu Temples, Sinagogs and Orthodox Church of Brisbane and the history of their communities in Brisbane? Just a thought, might be interesting.
I really dislike that St. John’s cathedral got rid of the pews and put the blond wood seats in.
You'd think a congregation would be all to happy to showcase it's church, but not always the case
……the ‘upside down bird’ is a dove, representing the Holy Spirit, in the Catholic Church………
I wish Brisbane wasn't going so fast.
St Andrews in Ann St. Interesting Miss Margaret Green who was mistress at Kelvin Grove State High School left $500,000 to St Andrews for "outreach to young people". She attended there.
I'm really sorry the City Tabernacle Baptist Church would not let you go in and film there. It was my home church and I wrote my thesis for ordination as a minister on the history of that church. Willara House next door down upper Edward St used to be the Manse where the minister lived. The Church runs a Ladies Hostel there now. You can go in to the church on the Open Day of Buildings. If you go check out the pool, called a baptistry which is behind the pulpit. The church does not baptize infants but only baptizes adults by full immersion when they decide to become Christians. They are VERY anit-gay. I don't have anything to do with the church anymore. Its noteworthy that so many churches are no longer used as churches and it's indicative of society's view of relevance of the church.
@Ron Smith yes it was a shame they wouldn't allow it. I did reach out to them early on and at first they were sort of okay with it, but then they wanted me to delay my visit until they had done all kinds of upgrades and cleaning and whatnot. It didn't matter to me at all, I just wanted to see the church as it was. Further emails to them by me went unanswered so that was that. Thanks for all your comments and feedback. Most interesting.
What I dont understand is who paid for all the churches to be designed, built and maintained as well as the land and rates etc. Theres so much money involved for somrthing that doesnt really make any money.
Churches are usually built with private donations. If you want to learn about why people give money for the construction and upkeep of churches, you'll need to contact a church or vicar. As an atheist, I'm probably not the best person to ask...
@@walkaboutwithrob interesting. Im an athiest as well but churches mustve been a good investment back in the day. Imagine trying to find investors for a church today.
@@kizzjd9578 @walkaboutwithrob The Tithe is a tenth of of a parisheners wages going to Gods work in the church as suggested in the bible. This adds up pretty quickly obviously the more people in the congregation.
Please take your hat off in the churches.
I'm a Muslim. It is irreligious to remove my Turban - ignorant Infidel blasphemer!
Take of your hat in the church!!!!!!!!!!
@M Bek No.
@@walkaboutwithrob Actually perhaps you should swap it for a hard hat considering the declining amount of upkeep being performed on these old superfluities.
😅great video on churches but it would improve If you did a bit more research rather than saying I don't what that means or I don't know
I research extensively actually, but sometimes I’ll come across something while out and exploring that is totally unexpected or unusual. Therefore I will simply admit that I don’t know what it is. It is impossible for me to know literally everything before I set out.
Thanks for your reply shënuar thought I felt you could have done more research I thoroughly enjoy your video's 😊🎉
@@TonyvanRiet-s5d
The symbol like a dollar sign is actually IHS which translates to Jesus my knowledge of Cemeteries and a quick Google search confirmed it.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Name_Cathedral,_Brisbane#
@@JohnSicoli yes I mentioned this in one of episodes.