Tram from Woolloongabba to Salisbury going through South Brisbane, Annerley, Moorooka
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- A Fuzzy Video Of The Woolloongabba-to-Salisbury Tram Route Using Different Trams (Occasionally Going In Different Directions At Different Times). It Goes Along Ipswich Rd and Then Up Beaudesert Rd It Passes Moorooka Fleetingly.
Thank you for a quaint and rustic look at a bygone era.
We occasionally caught a tram from Moorvale to Chardons corner for school (Yeronga High). Great memories.I even remember seeing a steam engine crossing near wooloongabba once. What a mess of wires the five ways was. The best experience had to be the rubber tyre trolley buses running along Kangaroo Point across the bridge. So silent and smooth.
This was our Route. Travelled it often. Dad drove the tram.
So how would he collect the ride fair or was there one ?
And my Dad was the conductor who collected the fare...
Trams were in Brisbane before my time,but my mum told me when she was young and working,she used to get a tram from red Hill to evans road sailsbury,where she worked in a factory.good to see the landscape and the way things used to be.
Your mother would have had to change trams before the Victoria Bridge in order to catch the tram to Salisbury.
Likewise on the return journey she would have changed trams after the Victoria Bridge to catch the Bardon Tram.
Time-consuming but faster and cheaper than modern times - even before the cross river tunnels and newer bridges.
Yeah I work in sailsbury and live on the North side my trip by bus takes me 90 mins with my walk and wait times between.
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@@ENDAOLIVERBRACKEN the tram they turned into a public toilet thought it was a great idea,it's a great memorial of the trams,i actually used that toilet. Another memory is the tram tracks that are still at Carina today.
I loved going to the city on these trams from the Belmont terminus as a kid. Brisbane began to lose its soul after they were scrapped.
Fantastic memories. Our urban lifeline, loved travelling by tram, which growing up in the 60's was a regular and increasingly until their scrapping, everyday event.
Soooo good. Thanks for the upload. 👍👌❤️❤️
I came to Brisbane with my family when I was 11 years of age in 1958. After settling in, I went to school in
Fortitude Valley yet Lived at East Brisbane. Each morning I caught the Ascot tram and travelled west through
Woolloongabba, South Brisbane, then north through the city into the Valley, Then return home after school
on the Balmoral bound train as far as East Brisbane. That was the highlight of my every day!
A Lovely Journey!!!
I left Melbourne to live in Brisbane in 1954, my parents had a War Service house in Stafford, not far from the Stafford tram terminus. I went to Stafford State School. I never wore shoes and socks, bare feet for kids was the fashion. In 1955 we went back to cold Melbourne.
Plenty of great scenes there! Certainly brings back a lot of nice memories! Really loved the old Brisbane trams!
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I am from india,but now living here in brisbane ,,really love this beautifull city in old style ,love it,thanku
Nice to hear. I hope you still support India in the cricket.
@@ronanrogers4127 hello rogan ,well i support both teams,heart goes to india but i fall in love with australia.hahaha
Thankyou sir. Welcome to brisbane.
When are U going back there
I was 5 in 69', and have a fuzzy memory of trams and the Mt Gravatt terminus. A sad day when they went and I often travel to Melbourne to get my Tram fix! Now they want to build a stupid Metro in Brisbane, instead of light rail.....will we never learn?? Thank you for the great footage!
Cheers Gregg.
I was barracking for light rail online for years.
I was born in 1964 and had tram fixes in Melbourne, Adelaide and San Francisco.
I'm 21, I hope I can see the trams come back in my lifetime oh and the White Australia policy too.
The video may be a bit fuzzy, at times the trams are going in different directions, but it's the sound of the wheels on the lines that makes the film so nostalgic. I still refer to the Moorvale shopping centre as Stop 38! How sad is that?
I lived at the junction of Beaudesert and Ipswich Roads (Tram stop 33), where the tram tracks left Ipswich Rd outbound and started up Beaudesert Rd. Trucks, cars and most frequently bicycles (especially the thin-tyred semi-racers) would on coming inbound on Ipswich Rd, would encounter the tram tracks at the junction.
On encountering the smooth trams tracks, the vehicles with bald tyres would slide or swerve erratically and sometimes collide with other vehicles or, with trucks , overturn resulting in some terrible crashes - amputations etc. The semi-racers were often caught in the grooves of the tracks resulting in tumbles or collisions with larger vehicles.
I wish i could have experienced the trams. You older viewers are lucky to have been around then.
Praise our Lord Jesus Christ there is the tram museum in Ferny grove
We were.
we were extremely lucky to have lived in brisbanes 2 best decades the 60's and the 70's miss those days so so very much
I used to catch the tram from Moorooka to town. Worked at the VBF, (Victoria Butter Factory) before getting a job at McEwans at the then new fruit and veg market on the outskirts of the city.
Thanks for the memories Enda
I used the 71 from Chardon's Corner to the CBD to get to work at Allan and Stark (Myers)..many times I ran in my high heels to catch it..
Thanks for sharing your experience. I enjoy hearing stories from the past
I remeber the trams. I could walk up Chatsworth Road, and catch a Trolleybus to Cav Rd High, or walk down to Logan road and get a tram to marshall road and go to school. Used to walk past where the bowling alley was at Greeenslopes
a crime to have removed these tram routes.
Yeah man, it really sucks
I remember the strong protests in Brisbane when Lord Mayor Clem Jones decided to abolish the Brisbane City trams. Biggest and worst mistake Brisbane ever did. I remember when going to work in 1971 the tram lines shown in this video being ripped up and the roads being resealed. A very sad era. And Brisbane is paying for that mistake now with traffic congestion and the interruption to the public transport system.
Interesting, my great grandfather, Shearwin was brought up from Sydney to Brisbane to electrify the Trams of Brisbane around the turn of the twentyth century.
Compo Road Salisbury became Evens rd. I worked at Kaus Brothers in the one of the old munitions buildings. Found an old munitions shell under the building
Yes - you are on the Ball. Look at:- www.ozatwar.com/ozatwar/ammofactory.htm
Drive through Old Cleveland Rd. Camp Hill. Tracks still there. Just before my time. How my oldies got to work/everywhere.
I lived at the junction of Beaudesert and Ipswich Roads (Tram stop 33), where the tram tracks left Ipswich Rd outbound and started up Beaudesert Rd. Trucks, cars and most frequently bicycles (especially the thin-tyred semi-racers) would on coming inbound on Ipswich Rd, would encounter the tram tracks at the junction.
On encountering the smooth trams tracks, the vehicles with bald tyres would slide or swerve erratically and sometimes collide with other vehicles or, with trucks , overturn resulting in some terrible crashes - amputations etc. The semi-racers were often caught in the grooves of the tracks resulting in tumbles or collisions with larger vehicles.
Those were happy days
Wow that was a sharp turnout. I worked on the railway for a lot of years. Always figured trams were very similar. This has shown me otherwise.
Dutton Park took us to see Grandma and Great Grandma.
No trams anymore . Just buses and gridlock traffic .
Shane Grangrad The traffic is absolute chaos. Would have been awesome to have ‘peak time’ traffic like this.
Buses suck!
Love the open design, so you could just hop on and hop off. Great idea. Good that trams, now light rail, are making a comeback. Clearly no-one did the maths when they switched to cars and buses, or else they thought that the population would not continue to rise.
Drop Centres were increasingly relegated to short inner city routes as the decade progressed. Perfect for hot 'n humid Qld summer days. Slower, noisier, I loved them. By the second half of the decade, it was pretty much all 400s on outer uban services. e.g Enoggera - Chermside
Melbourne has 250km of tram lines with 1600 stops, and yet car ownership in Melbourne is at 78%. Brisbane doesn't have any trams and car ownership is at 82%. Not a huge difference. Trams don't decrease car ownership nor daily commutes by car, otherwise Melbourne would not feel the need to build eight lane freeways. Brisbane's bus network operates just as effectively as a tram network. Buses are rectangular metal boxes on wheels with seats. Believe it or not, trams are exactly the same. Not to mention the fact that many of Brisbane's roads and streets back then were treeless, as branches got in the way of the power cables. Today, Brisbane is a much greener bus city with trees overhang roads. Far more beautiful.
Bring back the trams I say! And the way they could just roll up the sides in summer for cross ventilation is a brilliant idea for our climate. the need for air conditioning is diminished with thoughtful design. Like the old Queenslander style of house with high ceilings, verandha's, transoms & stilts. Now just add a big Mango tree on the South West corner and you're set for Summer. But the modern sweat-boxes they slap up (and the Houses are just as bad as the Units) are unlivable without air-con in the hooter months.
Nah the trams and trains don't make enough money for corporations and shareholders and they are too beloved by people like us :(
Thanks for sharing this video. Unfortunately, I missed travelling on the Brisbane system. My dad and I took a two week trip to Melbourne, Ballarat and Bendigo back in 1967 from where we lived in Sydney at the time and travelled on most the tram systems there. We had planned to visit Brisbane in 1968, but this never came to be. I did travel on a Brisbane tram at the Loftus tram museum just after the Brisbane system closed in 1969.
RGC198 the Brisbane has a museum in Ferny grove
Loved the trams!
My son was born in 1992 with disabilities and attended Xavier special school the tram and bus union would take all the disable kids to the ekka every year.it was still called tram and bus union although trams stopped in 1969.
Yes - the Tram and Bus Union also built the "House of Happiness" on Bribie Island fro disabled kids.
In the 1970s I was a teacher-in-charge of Caboolture Opportunity Classes and then Kuraby Special School - and we utilised the H. of H. from those educational units.
I came to Brisbane in '75, after the trams. I live very close to Cornwall St, I didn't know about the Ipswich Rd depot. Presumably that's where the Buranda shopping centre is now, just across from the PA?
boy how mooroka has changed
Its a shame how it has now turned into the ghetto of Brisbane. But... modern times.
Its like downtown Islamabad now.
fantastic, we had one for a year at Wellers Hill State Primary School, had to get rid of them, 'lead' they said.
Surely if there was the will they could reinstate trams!! Better this metro thing!!
I reckon!!!
There are still roads in Brisbane with old tram tracks. The only remnants of that era.
When you see the low volume of traffic back then you can understand why they might have disappeared. Different story now though.
Brisbane has changed. We will be like Sydney or Melbourne soon. Very sad.
Yes there are still tram-lines on Old Cleveland Rd (about 690 or 760 ) at the intersection with Long St to as far as the intersection with Jones Rd, Carina.
@@ENDAOLIVERBRACKEN few around still. Just past Hershel st onto Corro drive is one also. 👍❤️ when they do roadworks they usually find tracks under the bitumen. That old Buranda railway bridge. Geeez it could tell some stories!!
Yeeeeaah - my dad was a trammie ( conductor ) and i remeber going to ipswich road with mum to pick him up after his shift
It looks faster than the ones in Melbourne
Watcha outa for da Lowla Bridgida.
At 00:18 "climb over a low bridge"? I don't remember a bridge anywhere on Ipswich Road. There was an overhead Railway bridge just down from W'Gabba.
They said "a low ridge"...
These old rattlers are typical of the time...very noisy. I lived in Germany recently and their new trams are wonderful, so fast, clean and spacious, and comfortable. I think they’re the ones being introduced to the new Sydney lines. It’s almost prohibitively expensive to reintroduce tram networks, such a pity.
All gone thanks to someone getting really rich in favour of busses . A scene played across the globe in the 50's to the 70's . General Motors was behind most of it,getting fined in the early 70's by the US government . $1000.
Not quite. Trams have a problem with steep grades as do trains. That's why the Western line finished at Ashgrove. If they ran the trams to The Gap, they couldn't get back up the hill. Trams couldn't cope with the suburban expansion of Brisbane at the time. Buses could, and so the change was made.
Are these the trams with the two 'bug eye' mirrors at the front of the inside vestibule?
These were all before my time but my mother used to ride these from Annerley to school as a kid. Not long before she passed away we took her to the tram museum at Ferny Grove where she excitedly climbed into a tram and exclaimed "This was my favourite seat!" and its from then I recall the two mirrors that the driver(?) used to check for passengers.
Yes they were. The footage was filmed in the mid 1960s as a training film for drivers and conductors.
Fare-dodgers were always an issue for conductors, especially in wet weather, when the trams were packed 9and people hung on, standing on running boards or leaning out while standing on the edge of the floor. The partial solution (for the conductors/ticket sellers) took the form of the bug-eyed mirrors.
Ironically the trams were doomed to finish by 1969.
Judging by the traffic it looks as though this footage was filmed around 1969 or maybe 1970
Pre April 1969, as the tramway system in Brisbane closed then.
Would be great to see it today for comparison!
I bet all those tracks are still there under layers of bitumen.
Apparently so:-
www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-21/brisbanes-trams-what-happened-to-them-curious-brisbane/9555274
Some areas around Brisbane the tramlines are still there. Shame the trams have stoped.
Yes. It is ironic that "light rail" is the new buzz word. In nearly all the Old Europe capitals - and Istanbul - trams are alive-and-well on much narrower streets than ours.
Yes there are still tram-lines on Old Cleveland Rd (about 690 or 760 ) at the intersection with Long St to as far as the intersection with Jones Rd, Carina.
I see Beaudesert road moorooka. I lived there for 2 months.
Nice film ! From when dates it ? Rt. N° 71... Why did they use such "high" route numbers ? Thanks from Germany !
Nice.
Any one remember the short lived experiment with the electric trolly busses in the early fifties, great to travel in !
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The trolley buses were still running in the 1960s, but relegated to short inner city routes. I rode in them occasionally, but not regularly. I remember them as fast accelerating and relatively quiet. More comfortable to travel in than the B.C.C. motor buses pre Clem's Leyland Panther era.
Silent Death was their nickname, or something like that
A quest for all brisbane tram enthusiasts: wikipedia says that brill and single trucker(not baby dreadnoughs) cars survived into the 50s.
Is this real? Does somebody have testimoniances about it?
What year was this?
I honestly don't understand how a noisy tram with no suspension, wires, electrical infrastructure and fixed tracks was considered a good idea? It was costly and maintenace intensive. There were petrol cars driving around, why not have buses with rubber tires, less noise, no wires, no electrical infrastructure and the freedom to travel anywhere...........
Do these run on electricity anybody know ?
Hello, when was this filmed. Mid sixties early seventies. Maybe
In the mid-60s. It was used as a training film for tram drivers - to prepare them for any route they may be rostered on to.
There was also an electric trolley bus training film as well.
Enda Bracken. Thank you for the comment. Do you have any other footage or photos of Ye olde Brisbane.
@@casadelshed9128 You can search on line for a couple of videos, called Wait here for trams, from which this footage is taken, or alternatively, as Edna states, the videos are actually training videos, and have been released under that title. The 2 videos show the entire Brisbane tram network.
MrBundyrumandcoke Thanks for the tip.
Those trams were alright until they were made with open sides and they just lowered a thin plank of wood to enclose passengers. When I was twelve a skinny girl the trammy didn't lower the boom and I was shoved out onto the road, the tram not going fast, but I was a mess. Will not forget that.
Yes, Nancy - certainly, in the 1950s and 1960s (and throughout WW2 with the USA forces here) in gusty, rainy weather, there was an increased demand for trams as walking was impossible - - and so the older "toast-rack" trams you describe were wheeled out. Sometimes they had huge canvas advertising sheets unrolled to protect the seated passengers - but people getting on and off these trams had to lift them.
Funny ,that is how my science teacher taught me about Inertia .You used to be able to step off the tram while it was still moving,
We caught the Logan Rd trams.Every time a tram made a stop the cars had to stop too.
Pretty sure Clem killed the trams.
True. He thought freeways were the best way for the future. BRW, Stones Corner, not Stone Corner.
That's correct. The tracks remaining on Old Cleveland Road at Camp Hill go past where the guy lived. A fire at the Paddington depot was the beginning of the end for trams. Funny how convenient damaging events can sometimes be. The 1864 Great Fire of Brisbane preceeded the establishment of a fire brigade which, according to reports, some people at the time had been agitating for unsuccessfully before the fire.
Clem was stuck with a massive problem. The populace was getting wealthier, and more were able to afford cars. Fewer
people were using trams while the car traffic was escalating. The arterial roads in and out of Brisbane were becoming
traffic jams every morning and afternoon peak period. The BCC funded an American traffic expert to come and look at
the problem. He insisted trams must go, and freeways must be constructed. The rest, sadly, is history!
dont yah Just Love busses sitting engines running parked for hr Fumes as you pass *Adelaide jump on tram Free in city*👍✝ Huge twin busses runing around with 5-10 people max on them when a 20 seater small bus do it cheaper No brains working in the industry wasting fuel and recourses let alone the pollution they pump out parked in side lanes for hours engines running wtf then some run red lights like ? im late fook 2 have nearly taken me out action 6" more i be dead
Yeah we gotta make more dollars for corporations and shareholders! Stuff the people and environment.
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Just as well they got rid of those old steam locomotives. Burning all that coal must have been bad for the environment.
Haha ... was that a joke?
@@glenleslie3076 Hope so!
But they look great!