Is riding a WARHORSE difficult?

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  • Jason Kingsley and Lloyd from the Lindybeige channel chat about historical cavalry and try riding a real champion jousting horse. #history #historyfacts #medieval
    A big moment right at the end!
    Warlord
    Hawkeye
    Production/editing/camera/sound by Kasumi as usual
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  • @trogdor8764
    @trogdor8764 Рік тому +649

    I'm 100% up for Lloyd getting trolled by a horse for an hour.

    • @WheezerOfJuice
      @WheezerOfJuice Рік тому +6

      😂

    • @billmiller4972
      @billmiller4972 Рік тому +2

      Made me chuckle! Thank you Sir!

    • @snepping1885
      @snepping1885 Рік тому +2

      the chad horse vs the chad Lloyd

    • @ndld4955
      @ndld4955 Рік тому +8

      Yes ..
      🐴He's Veeerry polite about it..
      But also kind of insisting he have a more experienced rider..
      After all i have won prizes..
      😌😏😌🤭😂

    • @melhawk6284
      @melhawk6284 Рік тому +3

      ​@NDLD ol Warlord looked like he was thinking "newbs... F*kin newbs. I don't want to drop the rookie, dad, but he is making it difficult!"

  • @scottm.603
    @scottm.603 Рік тому +418

    Jason: "...and here is Warlord, he's..."
    The entire internet: "HE'S A GOOD BOOOY!"

  • @mjg2008121
    @mjg2008121 Рік тому +479

    I love Lloyd and Jason just having fun playing with their 'toys' together. They've both got slightly different areas of expertise, but a very similar level of enthusiasm. These crossover episodes really are great

    • @mjg2008121
      @mjg2008121 Рік тому +20

      Sorry Jason, I didn't mean to offend. I think it's amazing that you have the ability to basically rediscover the practicality (or impracticality) of these historical methods and theorise about what it really would have been like to live these experiences (in this case fighting and riding techniques). You really do bring history to life. I just loved the energy both of you brought to this video and it just seemed like both of you were having so much fun. I understand that Warlord and Hawkeye are highly trained horses that you have spent years working with and caring for, and in no way are just 'toys'. They seem like amazing, sweet and magnificent creatures. That was just me being overly flippant and I meant no disrespect. I've enjoyed your content for years and I always look forward to your videos

    • @Oooo-bi7bi
      @Oooo-bi7bi Рік тому +2

      Couldn’t agree any more. Although would like to see the historian and linguist , Simon Roper in the mix.

  • @MaggotDiggo1
    @MaggotDiggo1 Рік тому +101

    It was funny when Jason was assuring Lloyd the horse won't run into him unless he's in a bad mood then continued to explain how horses being in a bad mood isn't unusual.

    • @leagueaddict8357
      @leagueaddict8357 4 місяці тому

      If I was a horse I would be in a bad mood too.

  • @lmtoad1397
    @lmtoad1397 Рік тому +103

    I am continuously amazed at how well trained Warlord is. Not many horses will willingly tolerate poles being waved around them like that - even well trained horses. The flight instinct is so strong. A credit to your partnership with him! He trusts you completely.

  • @perniciouspete4986
    @perniciouspete4986 Рік тому +316

    11:36 Did Warlord ever work at the Ministry of Silly Walks? Seriously, I'm impressed by the Spanish walk. Extremely well-trained horse. You try to hide it, but your pride in him is evident.

    • @bcaye
      @bcaye Рік тому +18

      He *is* gorgeous and so well trained. The bond is obvious.

    • @andrewsock1608
      @andrewsock1608 Рік тому +17

      I think when he started the Spanish walk he was saying “ hey what ever he is saying is all Greek to me” 😂

    • @Oooo-bi7bi
      @Oooo-bi7bi Рік тому +4

      He’s in top condition and clearly well looked after. It’s a slowed down version of the Hackney trot.Can’t remember the name of the Spanish horse troupe. That do synchronised formation unbelievable routines . Also have you seen the dancing camels of the Touareg in the Sahara . There also genius horse men.

    • @andretorres75
      @andretorres75 Рік тому +3

      You join a Lusitano with a proficient rider and there’s magic!

    • @Oooo-bi7bi
      @Oooo-bi7bi Рік тому +3

      @@andretorres75 are these the ones that the Spanish synchronised display team use. Grew up in a horse mad family. But never appreciated it until becoming an adult and discovering other people didn’t use the garage as a stable.

  • @ShagShaggio
    @ShagShaggio Рік тому +94

    "Smelling the poo is horse social media. There's a whole twitter feed down there."
    And thus looking at social media shall be rightly known as "smelling the poo" from this day forth.
    Great video!
    Cheers!
    💚

    • @MichaelOnines
      @MichaelOnines Рік тому +3

      This is obviously the purpose of the poop emoji.

  • @jk4thawin
    @jk4thawin Рік тому +157

    Jason gives a horse riding lesson and Lloyd risks bruising his special area.
    All this and more on this weeks episode of: Two men confuse a Horse!

  • @Kradlum
    @Kradlum Рік тому +135

    Between you and Lloyd and Matt and Tod, we've had some fantastic videos in the last couple of weeks.
    I think both the horses got the measure of Lloyd.
    Warlord: wave a stick at me? Activate intimidating walk
    Hawkeye: Oh you want to go faster do you?

    • @Oooo-bi7bi
      @Oooo-bi7bi Рік тому +2

      They’re the gems of UA-cam. It’s when the platform shines.

    • @tyree9055
      @tyree9055 Рік тому +1

      Now to see all four of them together!
      😅

  • @Avalon-zm1yl
    @Avalon-zm1yl Рік тому +166

    What a great sport hawkeye is in this video you can see how much he trusts jason as he was continually looking at him to make sure that everything thing was OK. Also Loyd breaking into canter and then cussing is very relatable I had a horse that would occasionally test my abilities by choosing his own speed though I think I said worse words a 13 to my big man than Loyd.

  • @marcogenovesi8570
    @marcogenovesi8570 Рік тому +75

    It's so cool to see a realistic scenario with a trained horse. The animal is doing its own things as well, sometimes funny, sometimes screwing up the action. It's not a mindless vehicle like we are used to with cars and anything else nowadays.

    • @tyree9055
      @tyree9055 Рік тому +7

      Yes, they're not the mindless automatons that video games would have us believe! I can't wait for the first video game to implement a more realistic horse and then watch the horde of complaints about it!!
      🤣👍

    • @eldorados_lost_searcher
      @eldorados_lost_searcher Рік тому +5

      @@tyree9055
      There's Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild. It's not entirely realistic, but you have to occasionally reassure your horse as it gets spooked, and they'll try to take their own path if they haven't built up a lot of trust with you.

    • @tyree9055
      @tyree9055 Рік тому +2

      @Garret LeBuis Good! About time someone started improving these poor quality video games, they're making these days!
      😅

  • @dave1994jones
    @dave1994jones Рік тому +30

    As someone who spends a lot of time with horses, the walk to canter transition followed by "YES!.....OH SHIT!" echo'd only by the instructor's laughter is something I can appreciate only to well!

  • @alexk7973
    @alexk7973 Рік тому +13

    as a horse person I truly enjoy how encouraging you are about there being no one single technique of holding the reins, but many across cultures and times. We usually get stuck on the technique that we first learned as the „right“ way to do things. Mostly between English and Western styles, but also many more. I think it must be great for a beginner rider to hear that there are many ways and to be able to pick what feels right. Riding a horse for the first time probably is quite the sensory overload as it is (don‘t quite remember it in detail, as I was a child when I started lessons and it‘s been a while), without having to worry to much about form. So long as whatever is being done doesn‘t hurt the horse or endanger anyone, I think it‘s all good at that stage.

  • @Admiral_Pumpout
    @Admiral_Pumpout Рік тому +15

    who doesn't like seeing Lloyd struggle at controlling a horse but being splendidly pleasant about the whole affair whilst Jason looks on sniggering uncontrollably?! what a wonderful hour of two people and a couple of animals horsing around!

  • @perniciouspete4986
    @perniciouspete4986 Рік тому +3

    04:21 That "visceral feeling" Lindybeige is talking about is your bowels emptying.

  • @angustheterrible3149
    @angustheterrible3149 Рік тому +87

    Thank you for the incredible video, I wish I could find a riding instructor with as much historical knowledge as you!

  • @HisameArtwork
    @HisameArtwork Рік тому +7

    poor horse, he tried so politely to get rid of the noob.

  • @angeljamais8541
    @angeljamais8541 Рік тому +22

    Gentlemen, that was incredibly informative and entertaing at the same time. Thank you for your time and effort. Special thanks to the horses for their patience.

  • @somni2246
    @somni2246 Рік тому +11

    "Horse Sexual Chaos" will be the title of my upcoming experimental noise rock album.
    On a serious note, I really enjoyed this longer format video!

  • @xliquidflames
    @xliquidflames Рік тому +3

    43:56 Hawkeye looks at the camera like, "Dude, I am so confused right now. My owner is out here walking around but then the guy on my back is telling me to do a barrel roll ...and I know _that_ can't be right. So, I'm doing my best, okay?"
    Man, I thought riding a Harley for the first time was complicated. But he's right. Once you do it for a while, you start doing things unconsciously like shifting and putting a touch of back brakes on in certain situations or a tiny bit of clutch and front brake or shifting your weight through turns, that kind of thing. After a while, the mechanics of riding becomes automatic and you can relax and enjoy the scenery and the ride. But this looks way harder than riding a motorcycle because a Harley doesn't have a brain and isn't trying to interpret your inputs.

  • @Mammothbronco
    @Mammothbronco Рік тому +26

    I never knew how my love for learning about medieval times would uncover my love and empathy for horses. It's so inspiring to see Jason work with these horses.

  • @SuperTossik
    @SuperTossik Рік тому +125

    I find it amazing how much Jason can manvoure his horse without doing much visible things. It's almost as if he's connected to the horse and they are his own legs. (I know nothing about horses or horse riding)

    • @SandraOrtmann1976
      @SandraOrtmann1976 Рік тому +31

      You may know nothing, but you got the most important part. That is the end goal - invisible aids for the unexperienced viewer, and perfect synchronisation between horse and rider. If you achieve that, you have achieved true centaur status.

    • @cindyrissal3628
      @cindyrissal3628 Рік тому +24

      Weight shift & actually, the rider's focus, can guide the horse. In addition to legs & hands, of course. Think of it this way...the horse can feel a fly land on his back....it doesn't take much for a good rider to guide them. The riders in the movies that are flopping around & kicking, etc. are just Hollywood (or really inexperienced)....

    • @grahamhutton2756
      @grahamhutton2756 Рік тому +4

      That's what we all try to do 😊

    • @sheblyne
      @sheblyne Рік тому +10

      For us riders that's what we aim for . We never stop learning how to do it better.

    • @coop5329
      @coop5329 Рік тому +10

      When you get your act together with a well trained intelligent horse, you stop thinking about how to signal and it is exactly like being a centaur; your horse responds just like your arm or leg. They can trust us that much.

  • @lukedogwalker
    @lukedogwalker Рік тому +9

    12:39 I love the way Warlord leans forward in response to Jason shifting his weight. Look at Warlord's back legs and how he lifts onto his toes, very slightly. In martial arts we're taught to watch the shoulders, hips and feet to guess what the opponent is going to do, next. I wonder if this applies to horses in combat, as well?

    • @ModernKnight
      @ModernKnight  Рік тому +8

      It does, I usually watch the other rider's hands and feet for clues. better riders give fewer clues.

  • @tamsinp7711
    @tamsinp7711 Рік тому +34

    I seem to recall reading that the reason mares were favoured in the east is that their cavalry tradition stemmed from nomad culture - the mares were a source of milk when on campaign.

    • @payntpot7623
      @payntpot7623 Рік тому +8

      Also the mare line holds more importance than the stallion line. Mares were held in more esteem from my understanding.

    • @cadethumann8605
      @cadethumann8605 Рік тому +2

      Pardon my ignorance about animal biology, but wouldn't a mare need to have a foul in order to lactate? Unless if horses are mating in campaign, I don't know how a mare can produce milk.

    • @payntpot7623
      @payntpot7623 Рік тому +4

      @@cadethumann8605 I presume the mare could be like a bovine and if you
      milked her without a foal around, she would continue to make milk. She would eventually dry off. Perhaps the foal is left behind on a surrogate mare? Mongolians milk mares to this day as far as I am aware, but share the milk with the foal.

    • @tamsinp7711
      @tamsinp7711 Рік тому +1

      @@cadethumann8605 yes. Each rider would take several horses on campaign (actual number depending on duration, usually a minimum of three horses - one ridden, two remounts - up to 10 for very long campaigns) and they would have been breeding them. Most of the remounts and any foals would be in a following herd, along with stallions for breeding.

    • @mangalores-x_x
      @mangalores-x_x Рік тому +2

      has more to do with a majority of Eastern cavalry were about hit and run tactics where you need speed and nimbleness to work. Western cavalry of the knights developed into heavy shock cavalry aka the bigger and aggressive the horse the better. In the East it was about being skilled with the bow on horseback, in the West it was the lanced shock assault.
      So has more to do with type of cavalry and what was more favored in a culture. Would guess that Eastern shock cavalry would also favor stallions.

  • @VictoriaAllred
    @VictoriaAllred Рік тому +2

    I love watching Warlord just spend the whole time trying to Spanish Walk 🤣

  • @Alf763
    @Alf763 Рік тому +7

    As someone who’s ridden all their life, watching someone learn for the first time is always fascinating, especially Lloyd because he’s clearly thinking about things on a very deep level

  • @NeckbeardPr1me
    @NeckbeardPr1me Рік тому +49

    This makes me want to try horse riding so bad. I love the idea of tuning into the animal and them into you!

    • @bcaye
      @bcaye Рік тому +7

      Do try it, it's fabulous. Pay close attention to what you're instructed to do, it helps if the horse learns you can be trusted.

    • @karlsailor
      @karlsailor Рік тому +2

      Absolutely do it. You'll love it. It's also tends to go smoother when you have an instructor that's used to new students.

    • @alexk7973
      @alexk7973 Рік тому

      Also, such an instructor is more likely to have a horse available for you to ride that is also used to beginner riders. The horse does most of the instruction work and needs to know how to work with newbies, or he‘ll get confused. Most of what the instructor does at this point of your riding career is essentially translating between you and the horse. And telling you what messages you‘re sending without meaning to.

  • @okletmesignup
    @okletmesignup Рік тому +7

    I must be a horse, because Sir Jason is a source of comfort for me as well.

  • @lindgrenland
    @lindgrenland Рік тому +2

    Dream team line up for my knightly posse:
    Armourer: Tod from Tod's Workshop
    Quartermaster: Matt Easton
    Master of Horse: Jason Kingsley
    Court dance teacher: Lindybeige

  • @mirkfish8114
    @mirkfish8114 Рік тому +9

    Thanks for the tutorial now i just need a horse

  • @VigelanteVictim
    @VigelanteVictim Рік тому +11

    It's an interesting thing about the, ah, horse relations in the field. I never thought about that.

  • @katm8128
    @katm8128 9 місяців тому +3

    Just discovered this channel recently and it’s golden. Better than any tv

  • @YuliaHadassahK
    @YuliaHadassahK 10 місяців тому +4

    I really enjoy these videos with Lloyd, the combined knowledge of the two of you and the slow and relaxed delivery of ideas is very entertaining. Normal TV is by far inferior, this is the real deal 🙂

  • @frost68nskate
    @frost68nskate Рік тому +13

    Jason explaining all of the different movements to control the horse and then seeing him ride Warlord is really interesting to me. He rides and moves Warlord so smooth its like a literal second set of legs.

    • @BobT36
      @BobT36 Рік тому +2

      Crazy isn't it! I thought that level of control only existed when using a literal controller lol, never imagined such fine-tuned & controlled movement could be done with a real animal. I always thought Cavalry would just charge past men in straight lines but there's SO much that could be done to antagonise the poor footmen, the way Loyd had to keep turning around in circles to keep track of him (and likely getting very tired and inattentive to everything else) was crazy. Cavalry can do a LOT to harass opponents even when not just charging in / out.

    • @DaKea90
      @DaKea90 Рік тому

      @@BobT36 You'll never get that much control or ways of movement with a gamepad. BTW If you are interested in a more "professional" view into fighting on horse, there is a video about it on this channel, where Jason and a dutchman (I think) do essentially the same things like Jason and Lloyd did here, but both on horseback. THAT is some impressive stuff!

  • @cindyrissal3628
    @cindyrissal3628 Рік тому +9

    Hey, Jason...check out western reining horses. They are taught spins just precisely to keep up w/ a cow that is trying to get around the horse just like Lloyd was doing...Foot soldier behind you? Think capriole...😉

  • @shock_n_Aweful
    @shock_n_Aweful 9 місяців тому +2

    Its really useful to have a shared second language that the animals you are working with don't know so you can talk about "running" or "walking" without the animal thinking you are giving a command. My wife and I use some Spanish and archaic English words around our dogs to talk about things we don't want them to hear.

  • @TrueFictionFilm
    @TrueFictionFilm Рік тому +4

    This is the best UA-cam video of all time

  • @robingray5037
    @robingray5037 Рік тому +35

    Definitely worth the wait! But I will have to rewatch again because my tiny ginger kitty, Magic, loves Jason's voice. Once she heard Jason, she hopped up beside me and pawed my phone toward her. She was mesmerized with the images. I think she also enjoyed Lindsy's voice. She gave Hawkeye a paw tap on his head a couple of times when his face was getting larger on the screen. That's cat speak for, "please keep a distance. I don't know you well".
    At least I got to see the last part of the trot sequence, as she had to investigate a noise coming in from the kitchen window.
    My compliments to all of you: the listening student, the patient teacher, and the forgiving equine.

    • @bcaye
      @bcaye Рік тому +4

      Also cat language for "Wake up and feed me!"

    • @robingray5037
      @robingray5037 Рік тому

      @@bcaye True!

    • @BobT36
      @BobT36 Рік тому +1

      Jason does indeed have a very pleasant voice. It's nice listening to him tell us about things. Very chill. Good contrast & blend with Loyd's default very animated style.

  • @roballister5269
    @roballister5269 Рік тому +4

    omg Jason's got legit the starting tier Vlandia Bannerlord armor LOL

    • @ModernKnight
      @ModernKnight  Рік тому +1

      lol, or was it the other way around?

  • @bewing77
    @bewing77 Рік тому +2

    Lloyd is just like 90% of everyone on a horse the first time. Slouched posture, confusing the horse by giving opposing instructions at once and being far to timid. It just takes a while.
    Most people are quite surprised by how organic and totally unlike riding a bike or motorcycle it is. The horse is obviously a living being and all of it moves and people often feel like they’re about to fall off at any moment. The horse also isn’t controlled like a machine, it tries to understand what you’re asking it to do, but you don’t control the exact motion of every muscle of the horse. The trick is to feel comfortable and balanced in the saddle, be confident, and to understand what the horse can do on its own, and trust it to do that, while also knowing where you need to help it.
    It’s a beautiful thing when it all works out. And when you’ve become comfortable with the basics you will be even more amazed by the skill of people like Jason, something like jousting takes a perfect connection between horse and rider.

  • @jaroslavpalecek4513
    @jaroslavpalecek4513 Рік тому +17

    Thanks for next great video. Hope you all have a great day!

  • @AskLucius
    @AskLucius Рік тому +9

    "Magic Roundabouts of knights" made me laugh so hard that I had to pause the video so I didn't miss anything! Now I'm picturing that roundabout made of roundabouts in Swindon, except there are lances sticking out every car window.
    Outstanding as always, guys! Very eager for the next one!

  • @DisinformationAgent
    @DisinformationAgent Рік тому +7

    The crossover everyone wanted and asked for.

  • @Reverenz88-14
    @Reverenz88-14 Рік тому +2

    Literally my feelings when I learned horseriding - "YAY! OH SHIT!"

  • @Kozu604
    @Kozu604 Рік тому +14

    Amazing, there is no other place like this on youtube. I've followed Lloyd for many years before I discovered this channel so the overlap is particularly great. Horses worry me because they are so large and strong and having had nothing much to do with them I don't understand them at all. Jason seems like a great teacher though, calm and encouraging, it was really wholesome to watch and I was impressed how quickly Lindy managed to catch on, I feel I would have been more flapped.

  • @resurgam_b7
    @resurgam_b7 Рік тому +2

    19:24 Every single Praven tournament 😡
    Great video though! I'm always down to watch Lloyd muddle through some new experiences :D

  • @sevenproxies4255
    @sevenproxies4255 Рік тому +3

    Sidenote: Warlord is absolutely stunning.

  • @JohnDoe-go3kv
    @JohnDoe-go3kv Рік тому +2

    I’ve watched you both for years, do not let this new account fool you, and I have to say that the two of you together is quite the treat.
    Thoroughly enjoyable watch.

  • @JesseP.Watson
    @JesseP.Watson Рік тому +2

    The image of Lloyd sat on that dummy horse at 16:00 is damnably comical... particularly with a broom-handle... "The Ill Made Knight"

  • @mementomori771
    @mementomori771 6 місяців тому

    You never really think of how many ways you control a horse until your explaining it to a beginner really well done

  • @yorkshire_tea_innit8097
    @yorkshire_tea_innit8097 Рік тому +3

    I love videos with underlying narratives. Lindy's apprehension, the horse's love of Jason, the horse slowly getting more annoyed with Lindy. It's like a ballet..

  • @lucasengland3581
    @lucasengland3581 Рік тому +4

    the level of horsemanship on display here is truly impressive

  • @meri_teri_82
    @meri_teri_82 Рік тому +26

    Jason, Lloyd is hilarious! I loved seeing the two of you interacting. There was a lot to be learned just listening to the two of you converse. But, when Hawkeye took off at a trot and broke into a canter, when Lloyd let out that expletive, I laughed until I cried. I hope the two of you have scheduled a few more riding lessons for Lloyd.
    I miss seeing the credits! Did Warlord and Hawkeye miss getting top billing?
    Take care of yourself

  • @themysteriousstranger4580
    @themysteriousstranger4580 Рік тому

    The whole “which side of the horse do you orient your lance towards in war” gave me major mount and blade flashbacks

  • @CarlosJoachim
    @CarlosJoachim Рік тому +4

    Like Lloyd was saying at the end, I can confirm as both a dancer and rider that the way of leading is very very similar

  • @RocketJo86
    @RocketJo86 Рік тому +2

    I would totally love Jason to be my riding teacher. He does a really great job in explaining the things to people.

  • @BobT36
    @BobT36 Рік тому +2

    Wow, Jason in such great control of his horse. Obviously a fantastic rider, and bloody excellent horse too. I never thought in close quarters manoeuvrability a human being would have such fine control of an animal they're riding like that, as if he's using a game controller lol. Another thing that's interesting is while the horse is manoeuvring around allover the place like that, a group of blokes are having to TURN AROUND potentially facing their backs to the battle and not paying attention to what else is going on around them.
    Great to get Lindy's takes here as well, loved how these two were just discussing their passion and bashing out theories, like two blokes sat at a pub, but here with lances, horses and swords haha.
    Fantastic vid mates, keep these sorts of things coming. It's awesome when ya get together.
    Also WOW I never realised the Kite shield was such a good pick for mounted units. I always wondered wtfs the point of a Kite shield when you can have a good Tower shield instead (other than being lighter), but the shape fits absolutely perfectly when on a horse. Every game I played always had footmen using them.

  • @pkassad
    @pkassad Рік тому +3

    Only a quarter of the way in, however what Jason and Lloyd are talking about with how the footman can easily get around the mounted person kinda drives home to me that the optimal use of calvary would be like how some fighter planes 'boom and zoom'. Come in at speed, hit hard in a single pass, and continue on to reset for another pass at speed.

  • @FranciscodAnconia
    @FranciscodAnconia Рік тому +6

    I'm from Texas and basically grew up in a saddle. My dad and uncle were team ropers, my cousins steer doggers, and I participated in a few cutting horse competitions as a teenager. I would be really interested in seeing you come to the US to see how quickly you could pick up western riding and/or getting a cowboy on Warhorse or Hawkeye and seeing how long it would take you to teach them to joust.

  • @mgk2020
    @mgk2020 Рік тому +3

    I can not believe I watched this for an hour without getting bored. You are quite good at what you do.

  • @act.13.41
    @act.13.41 Рік тому +21

    I had said that this could be comedic gold and it did not disappoint. Well done, both of you.

  • @sevenproxies4255
    @sevenproxies4255 Рік тому +8

    The kite shield looks quite perfect for a horseman. If it was just s big rectangle it would jab into the side of the horse and probably would've had to be held at an akward angle. But the slopes of the kite shield just run almost perpendicularly to the side of the horse.

  • @maggiepie8810
    @maggiepie8810 Рік тому +1

    Warlord is a such a gem of a horse.

  • @decespugliatorenucleare3780
    @decespugliatorenucleare3780 Рік тому +1

    I'll be boring and reiterate how beautiful that horse is

  • @michaelpitt783
    @michaelpitt783 Рік тому +2

    I love warlord's fancy walk "I'm bored of this, dancing time"

  • @samprastherabbit
    @samprastherabbit Рік тому +8

    What a treat that video was! Fair play to Lloyd for being such a willing student- he made it look a lot easier than it probably is. I've never ridden a horse in my life, but maybe some day I'll get Jason to show me on Hawkeye lol Great work, as always!

  • @wanato614
    @wanato614 Рік тому +6

    see jason and smaaaaaaaaash the like buttom. his dress looking dope tonight !

  • @snakebae6259
    @snakebae6259 6 місяців тому +2

    "if you pull and squeeze your legs its the command to go backwards"
    that is literally the most amazing thing ever, how do they even teach that to an animal? thats such a complicated signal yet it undestands. so amazing.

  • @lievenpetersen
    @lievenpetersen Рік тому +32

    As someone who's played a bit of flight sim with ww2 planes, I believe it's more possible to get onto someone's tail because there are more degrees of movement (up and down), offering more options for creative maneuvering.
    Carrouseling each other in planes will also slow you down, so you can either sacrifice altitude (while you still have it) or be a sitting duck at low speed for a third plane to come in. Therefore you might try to avoid doing the carrousel for too long.

    • @Kyuschi
      @Kyuschi Рік тому +3

      i play a few world war flight sims too, though i think it's a lot more even than you've put here. While the extra dimension up and down gives you some creative movement options, the direction of gravity is constant and can somewhat limit those, and the defending aircraft also has more options of avoiding a turnfight.
      Aircraft also have reasonably definite performance by model, which can be estimated, thus if the pilots know one aircraft can turn in faster and win said turnfight, thus the worse off will deny every opportunity of getting into one they can, and quickly disengage or be shot down if they are caught in one.
      Horses, on the other hand, you have no idea what sort of training the other rider has given their individual mount, and despite the absent verticle, i believe horse maneuvering makes up for that in the fact that horses are able to move other directions than forwards, which i would assume opens up some very interesting options

    • @fleetskipper1810
      @fleetskipper1810 Рік тому +1

      I’ll bet that Knights in different geographical areas closely studied each other whenever they got the chance, such as when they were both at the same tournament. They quickly got an idea what kind of rider a potential opponent was. It would be like watching replays of football games and studying your opponent’s tactics.
      I imagine that they gossiped about each a third, too.
      I can imagine a knight visiting a friendly castle and engaging in this conversation: “Say, what, do you know, I was over in France last summer and saw Sir Gawain joust. He was so drunk, he couldn’t tell the front from the back of his own horse! I hear he’s always like that.“
      Also, you can tell a lot in a very short amount of time about how a horse is responding to its rider, if you know what to look for. I’m sure that knights constantly assessed each other’s movements and what was going on and where they might be weak in terms of communicating with their horses.

    • @bonnieweeks7601
      @bonnieweeks7601 Рік тому +1

      My dad flew B24 bombers in WW2 as the captain. Apparently they were very difficult to fly. I was always interested in horses rather than planes, so didn't speak too much to him about them. He retired from Eastern Airlines after 50 yrs, and unfortunately passed many years ago.

  • @Meevious
    @Meevious Рік тому +2

    Imo, avoiding the "roundabout" situation is about subtle control of the pace of the horse. By very slightly raising and lowering speed, one can obtain an ever changing ovoid orbit and gradually inch toward a better angle. An opponent with good reflexes may be able to respond to actions if they're overt, but it's hard to react to or even detect very slight changes in pace until it's too late and one has effectively lost ground.
    The same sort of principal applies to hitting someone with a lance in single combat - you want to dip exactly into range for a tiny fraction of a second and you want the opponent to misjudge the timing of that fraction of a second, so it's critical to subtly vary the pace of the horse in the final moments, lulling the opponent into mistakenly thinking they know when you'll hit, with no obvious sign that the timing has in fact changed. Most foes will brace for impact and focus on the moment that they expect to be decisive, rather than taking this critical initiative to control said timing for themselves, or paying close attention to the potential for deception from their opponent. There, now you too can be an unstoppable force in Mount and Blade! I do feel a slight twinge of guilt that this info may fall into the wrong hands. X)
    A fighter plane has many more options for breaking a "roundabout", because it doesn't have to have its underside always facing the earth, as a horse does (though idk, maybe a horse could be trained to do a combat roll, while the rider athletically climbs over its tum... I wonder if there are any Comanche knights in the modern tournament scene), but I've always had a lot of success in combat flight simulators with basically just treating them as horses and doing the same tricks with subtle manipulation of speed (and thus turning circle), though it certainly is also useful to combine it with veering into planes other than the horizontal (just don't veer into the wrong kind of plane without a ram on your nose* or you'll be ex-planing it with a parachute**).
    On the other hand, while they can't generally roll, pitch or elevate, horses can stop, reverse and strafe, which could potentially be useful for breaking a loop. When the speed is low enough, a sudden stop into a 3-point turn could allow a rider to slip into exactly the desired position, as long as they can stay out of range while they reverse, passing (on the inside) the opponent who's either still moving forward or trying to stop or reverse, but with a delayed acceleration.
    * Ramjets were pretty thin on the ground and even thinner at loftier altitudes in WW2, so in that context, this manouevre would not have had desirable ramifications.
    ** Or unable to rip the cord, due to a preemptive R.I.P. of one's person.

  • @Richard0292
    @Richard0292 Рік тому +6

    This was one of the best things I've watched in a long time. I hope you two are able to collaborate again.

    • @ModernKnight
      @ModernKnight  Рік тому +5

      Thanks, and yes, when we get time we'll do another.

  • @colmortimer1066
    @colmortimer1066 Рік тому +11

    I loved watching you teach Lloyd how to ride. It's quite interesting as someone who does not ride to see just what all it takes to learn. It always looks so easy when you do it, but it's a lot different for a new person.

  • @knutzzl
    @knutzzl Рік тому +1

    Lol.
    And yes Lloyd horse's Are BIG.
    Im in a reenactment group called: the order of the gilded apple, and one of the trials to join is standing in armour without flinching, and having an apple knocked off of your head by a knight on horseback at a gallop...
    If you're wondering: yes we are crazy and no, no one got injured (seriously)

  • @kropotkinnie
    @kropotkinnie Рік тому +12

    New here, dropping in to say kudos to you keeping light hands on your horse and letting their head fall naturally rather than forcing any position. Especially with that bit's shank, that's impressive and I'm glad to see your horse has a happy mouth. I can see the love you have for your horses and your sport looks much more stimulating for them than most. Also, I love those fetlock and chin floofs not being clipped off of the first lusitano. Letting him be a normal horse brings a smile to my face.

  • @AdDewaard-hu3xk
    @AdDewaard-hu3xk 3 місяці тому

    The whole thing about mares in heat, and stallions noticing that during battle, kinda spins the whole scenario in a new direction.

  • @GinoLuccio
    @GinoLuccio 4 місяці тому +3

    This is damn awesome man. I got so many more video's to catch up on 😆
    That horse of yours is a beast!

  • @dancing_odie
    @dancing_odie Рік тому +1

    The greatest crossover since peanut butter and jelly

  • @lauragovernali4332
    @lauragovernali4332 Рік тому +4

    I believe that a horse and a loving, devoted rider become of one mind and one heart. Here’s a winning example ❤

  • @bigsiege1848
    @bigsiege1848 Рік тому +38

    Can Lloyd teach Jason to swing dance?

    • @shonamcwilliam4171
      @shonamcwilliam4171 Рік тому +1

      No no no no.

    • @fleetskipper1810
      @fleetskipper1810 Рік тому +3

      Turnabout is fair play! Come on, Jason, it’s your turn to be the learner.

    • @jld772
      @jld772 Рік тому

      Can he teach warlord the lindy hop?

  • @BlackMasterRoshi
    @BlackMasterRoshi Рік тому +8

    experimental living history is such a treat.
    also the talk about changing directions of the turn in a duel reminds me of fighter pilots turning out of a two circle into a one circle fight. changing turn direction at the wrong time could prove deadly to the pursued. edit: oh lloyd got that one lol.
    it sounds like jason is explaining that warlord's controller sensitivity is set very high.

    • @theogoltzman5372
      @theogoltzman5372 Рік тому +3

      High sensitivity and high specificity combined on Warlord, most likely. That canter Lindy started was probably because one leg (more probably the inside one) ended up about 3 inches too far back, and Hawkeye got an asymmetrical signal. It turns out that's how you do a walk to canter transition, with the leg further back indicating which side the horse should lead with (it's a balance and style thing, in a ring you normally always lead on the inside). The other thing is some experienced horses just don't tolerate inexperienced riders. They just freeze up or ignore imperfect signals because they are unused to them. I'd be surprised if Warlord was that type, but it does happen.

  • @emmbabyrocks6830
    @emmbabyrocks6830 Рік тому +4

    🍀🕊
    When he started to Spanish walk 😊

  • @Ranger_Kevin
    @Ranger_Kevin Рік тому +5

    Now that Lloyd has his set of armour (mostly) sorted out, it would be interesting to see you both do some more studies armoured up. Like knight on foot vs. knight on horse or kights on foo vs each other.

  • @Jared7873
    @Jared7873 2 місяці тому +1

    Absolutely love Jason's shirt and jerkin (or the proper term.) I also love this channel.

  • @TheZinmo
    @TheZinmo Рік тому +2

    I can't fight the impression that the horse is at least as smart as the two humans.

  • @lightdragonlunadragnar9868
    @lightdragonlunadragnar9868 Рік тому +5

    You Got to love a horses personality.

  • @Saerise
    @Saerise Рік тому +2

    Me to my Racking Horse mare: Let’s go learn jousting!
    He gets bonus points for staying on for his first and very accidental canter. 🤣🥃

  • @dcarbs2979
    @dcarbs2979 Рік тому +3

    Lloyd did really well. I'd forgotten my initial learning process. I barely got out of 'walk', concentrating on controlling the horse to specific points in the circle and criss-crossing. Certainly not using weapons and cantering on lesson one! Once you're well versed at trot, going up to canter in control is a real joy.

  • @willek1335
    @willek1335 Рік тому +7

    That was fun. I have a lot of sympathy for Lloyd and his concerns for his maledom. It's nice knowing I'm not alone. I've ony trotted a couple of times, as part of a group where I had little agency, and it scared me from repeating it. The pain riding for me was comparable to that time I skydived. I pulled my chute and one of the loadbearing straps, taking the full weight of my decelerating body, accidentally included a male body part that have no business being pressed. I weigh 70 kg and it's about 4g on those two straps, so you can imagine no amount of adrenaline could ever mitigate the suffering. My hat goes off for the brave male riders who does so with ease, and especially Lloyd who faces his fears.

    • @paulinemegson8519
      @paulinemegson8519 Рік тому +2

      And yet it was the women who were expected to ride sidesaddle*shrugs*
      I should add, not in this period as women rarely rode at all, but as soon as they did, “society” deemed astride to be improper.(anyone would think they were just trying to make things more difficult for them)

    • @ragnkja
      @ragnkja Рік тому +2

      @@paulinemegson8519
      In slightly later periods (especially before the invention of the two-pommeled side-saddle), women’s riding habits were quite visually distinct from other feminine clothes, as they tended to be closed with buttons-otherwise only seen, especially in such numbers, on masculine clothes-rather than lacing and/or pins. This meant that women’s riding habits were far less adjustable than their other clothes, which were adjustable enough that there was no need for separate maternity clothes. And as you might have guessed, riding (especially for sport) while pregnant was very much _not_ seen as safe.

  • @anneominous7172
    @anneominous7172 Рік тому +1

    Man I live without internet for a few weeks and when I come back there are two new collaborations with Lindy. The excitement on my part borders on unreasonable.
    Also I keep saying this but I would do just about anything for more Curse of Silverthorn. Get the band back together, Sir James. I implore you.

  • @ChevalierdeJohnstone
    @ChevalierdeJohnstone Рік тому +3

    This collab is a gift from God

  • @kuna129
    @kuna129 Рік тому +4

    :) So calming to see a teaching sequence - someone tries to teach you and happy you progress, instead of just showing of how great they are in comparison with you.

  • @joefrayling9263
    @joefrayling9263 5 місяців тому

    My 2 favourite history UA-camrs in an hour long video revolving around horses perfect.
    Also Warlord is a stunner, beautiful conformation love Lusitanos

  • @schiftmeister2491
    @schiftmeister2491 Рік тому +2

    34:51
    a very polite way from the horse saying "get off my back!" :D
    edit: well 2 minutes later jason made that joke :D

  • @redfox9446
    @redfox9446 Рік тому +2

    Warlord is a gorgeous boy with an excellent temperament. Any knight would be envious of him.

  • @hecticscone
    @hecticscone Рік тому +1

    15:44 Good question! The closest you could probably get historically is the tincture "carnation" used by the French to denote the colour of white human skin. In the modern day there is a tincture that is closer in colour to beige called "buff" only officially recognized by the United States Army Institute of Heraldry and the Canadian Heraldic Authority. It's typically used as a metal as opposed to a colour, so it would be treated the same as silver and gold (white and yellow) when it comes to the rule of tincture.

  • @Moewenfels
    @Moewenfels Рік тому +4

    It is so wonderful seeing Lloyd learn and ride Hawkeye ^.^

  • @HankMeyer
    @HankMeyer Рік тому +3

    This is my favorite detective channel. It's very similar to
    how I'd imagine homicide detectives try to reconstruct the scene of a crime.

  • @jacquelinesherlock2274
    @jacquelinesherlock2274 Рік тому +4

    I would love to have a riding lesson with you as the instructor Jason. I haven't ridden for a few years but my mare (Cedar) and I used to have some wonderful adventures together. I miss riding so much! I also love your channel, and am in love with history 🙂

  • @SierraNovemberKilo
    @SierraNovemberKilo Рік тому +5

    Well done for being brave enough to try this straight to film. Lloyd claims not to have been frightened but I can clearly see the stiff upper lip grimacing, the shoulders folding and the left hand wanting to grasp something solid. Hawkeye is being very generous putting up with a novice. I'd imagine a less patient horse showing its displeasure long before the canter incident. Good job, the three of you.

  • @michielvoetberg4634
    @michielvoetberg4634 Рік тому +10

    Honestly this was great.
    Explaining the communication with the horse and what signals do what is interesting to me. I have never sat on a horse but Jason explains it so well.
    I hope there is more coming