Field Archery - like normal archery, except miles better
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- Опубліковано 23 тра 2022
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Field archery is a sport that simulates hunting with bows. It happens usually in woods, with a laid-out course a bit like a golf course. I gave it a go with a fellow UA-camr, and we had larks.
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"I can see that my arrow is not straight." As a long time field archer I can confirm that a fundamental part of field archery is having a supply of excuses ready.
That got a chuckle out of me, well played mate!
Ah, excuses, a quintessential part of every precision sport. Goddamned red dot took a hit and lost zero.
Knowing your arrows, and some times that bent one is the one you are looking for.
Another example of field archery excuse is "if I had a horse and lance, I would have hit him."
I use crap arrows for field archery as it stops me crying when I lose them.
That was such fun to do! Thanks for taking a beginner along with you and congratulations on finding the trophy!
glad to see you Collab other History Channels!
Oh you prankster, you didn't admit that you were making another movie with Lloyd!
I loved this
what a crossover
i must say im a bit disappointed that you drove out instead of riding. You could have ridden warlord and lloyd maybe the mule with no name? ^^
Still very happy to see you two do a colab!
What I love the most about this video is that you have:
- Authentic looking outfits
- Historically accurate weaponry
- Bespoke targets with pictures on hessian
- A beautiful setting with weather to match
- Some sort of idea of what you're doing
... BUT ...
Organising three sticks painted different colours? Run away! Run away!!!! 🤣
WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY WHITE PAINT!
Bug a Frenchman they usually have white paint in big supplies
At my archery club we have a joke: Compound archers look for their arrows in the gold (bullseye). Recurve archers look for their arrows in the target. Barebow (traditional longbow) archers look for their arrows!
I use compound for field archery too
The combination of Jason's very calm demeanor and Lindy's manic energy is very entertaining.
I think the fact that u missed with ALL ur arrows is likely to count against u ..... hahaha
It’s very Top Gear
Jason seems like a cool person to hang out with. Always appreciate his content.
@Jotunn I would bet an arm and a leg that Lloyd only drinks tea, and avoids coffee like the plague
@@zetijeti nope, he doesn't drink tea. Confirmed.
I like to imagine Jason starts every conversation with "if I'm on a horse and I have a lance..."
5:35
lol 😂
..."then I would be completely useless in this dense woods"
@@oteromason well the point is valid, but the wood does not feel that dense :P
@@q1revers yeah, dense for a horse, but not dense in the greater scheme of things
Brilliant! My favorite line was "I allow my arrows to mature into a nice, graceful arc"
hahah imagine the actual soldiers getting a batch of very mature arrows and getting "a*se ripped" by their commander because they are far from effective. s*ite day mate hahahah, busy aye?
My favorite was "Oh, the throat... Force of habit"
The eccentric history teacher I wish I had in school together with a man who is probably an actual knight going over a historical topic for over forty minutes?
My shitty week has been made massively better. People like y'all give me hope.
His full title is Jason Kingsley OBE, so you're not far off :)
That’s really good to hear. UA-cam has been a powerful medication for my dark clouds.
@@TheKyshu He also apparently received a CBE in the 2024 new year honours!
This is great fun chaps. Perhaps we should have some kind of medieval UA-camr archery challenge - but only for people like us who are crap at archery. Lloyd, I'd recommend having your arrow quiver pointing the other way, but each to their own.
Yes! Lloyd, Jason, and Matt, the Medieval Top Gear team. :P
I want to see how good even good archers are in all brush. I want to hw much an advantage they have if any given the less than perfect positioning and stuff in the way.
Thanks Matt, I think some sort of UA-camr event over a weekend would be a lot of fun.
Muzzle loader shooters have a mid-winter "cabin fever challenge" where they go out and shoot in the winter snow over a series of targets.
The archery challenge would be a described series of targets, defined scoring, and defined distances.
Yes! Live Action Role-play of the campaign you guys did with Shad some time ago?
"Jason happens to own a forest."
Now that is serendipitous! At the perfect forest-requiring time
most opportune!
It doesn't hurt he is like a billionaire! lol
And runs a game studio.
@@Allan003 I own part of a Forest, and I do not have that kind of money at all.
In some German Villages if you own a plot in the village, you also own part of the forest for wood/hunting. Kinda neat.
@@wobblysauce who is he?
Loyd: "Are you sitting comfortably?"
Me: No?!?
Loyd: "Well sit properly then!"
How does he know???
I felt so called out.
Also that offense then followed up with "IM GONNA DIE SOMEDAY MAN" was one sick ass combo I was not ready for lmao.
If you're going to quote him please get it right ;) He actually asked if you were sitting uncomfortably.
23:15 You make me genuinely sad imagining no more Lindybeige. Please take your time passing, we all enjoy you too much.
Fun archery fact. The centre of a mediaeval archery butt was marked with a white disc known as the Blank.
When shooting from range, one had to aim above the Blank, to allow for gravity to do its thing.
If, however, you were so close that you could aim directly at the disc, this was called Point-Blank range.
I like these bits of trivia about the origin of words and phrases that we still use today. Thanks
And it's called a blank because in french, white is written blanc (the c is silent). The English, not being French, did pronounce the final c. And over time it became blank
@@Elderand The Normans, not being completely French, were happy to follow the completely not-French English in butchering the language of the Kings of Paris.
@@Elderand the whole silent final letter in French is a modern French development. Not something that was being done in Northern France a thousand years ago.
and to further add to the trivia, once guns and gunsights sights became a thing, point blanc became the range that the sight was adjusted to, and was not necessarily within arm's reach. if your sights were adjusted to 100 yards, then 100 yards was point blanc range.
That's the beauty of Lindybeige videos.
You have no idea when the next one will be uploaded.
It could be the middle of the night or midday. They could be no upload for a month, or they could be the next day.
But when it does it's like Christmas.
And you never know what kind of video you will get
nor what the cast or the topic will be. Psychologists term this "intermittent reinforcement" and its much more addicting than predictable, consistent rewards...
and it could be him explaining the logic behind every tactical decision made by Gaius Julius Alpinus Classicianus, or him just showing his new dancing shoes.
MHTV and Lindybeige make for a very entertaining duo, with Lloyd's enthusiasm and flair for drama contrasting against Jason's incredibly calm and laid-back demeanor.
The MedievalBusters.
Indeed, they are a fun rather contrasting duo :)
"Oh, shhhhhhhh...ield" Nice save.
Man I wish I could be there with you guys, looks like so much fun. Great to see Jason representing the right side longbow shooting!
Shad, great to see you here, yes it's the side I've always shot. I was suprised to realise there was even a controversy about it. I'm left handed with a rifle too weirdly and I think it's because I usually try stuff myself before I get taught 'how too do it' by someone.
We need more right side shooting in this world. I would also be interested to know how instinctive aim works on the move, because it's a very "movie-style" way of shooting and I doubt anyone fought or hunted walking and specially running. I think it would be impossible with high poundage, so maybe smaller shortbows had an advantage there.
right siders all the way
@@Seldinor As someone who shoots off horseback, I will say that it's a bit like shooting with a shotgun where you track the target with your arrow as you gallop past. It can be done fairly scientifically. It helps when your arrows fly where they point, which Jason was clearly struggling with in this video. If he wants to stick with that arrow placement, I would suggest he switch to thumb draw, as when properly done with that method, the arrow will fly straight.
send em a cardboard cutout, one side with an 'i'm gonna git ya' grimace, other with a 'steal my purse' dopey smile, unless you can't make those kind of faces.
In today's video Lindy literally hunts a man with a bow for sport
That beaming smile when Sir Kingsley popped in at the beginning. So glorious! So radiant! Wonderful video as always.
The quality of the art work on those targets was absolutely amazing, very realistic.
Watching Jason run around like that is quite entertaining.
I would pay good money to watch all of you military history guys play a roleplay game like you did last year but instead of dice rolls you try to hit dummies in the woods.
Hitting each other , you mean?
I wonder how you could combine LARP with the kind of fantastic stuff you could have in a TTRPG like what they played last time. I've never done proper LARP before (just running around in the woods with a stick as a kid) so I really have no idea.
@@Sibula with this system they could be 4 archers with a turn based system where som1 moves the targets and they take turns either shooting or doing some other action I think that would be quite fun!
@@markuskristensen2433 Fancy seeing you here
Yes! This! Definitely this! Jason, Lloyd, Todd, Matt Easton, versus Joerg. His laughter as he defeats them one by one will be epic!
Interesting to see this from an RPG ruleset point of view; the difficulties of not having a perfect places to take your stance and the random factor of twig interception aren't things I have thought about before...
I mean it's one way to explain those low rolls.
@@chad4858 no, I agree, but I guess as modifiers a shot across across a stretch of scrub would have higher likelihood of going astray than one across an open field...
@@randalhorselord Most rulesets have either a cover mechanic, or more indepth rules regarding visual and physical obstructions.
@@randalhorselord Partial cover, or in my rpgs a minus 1. Always fun to see the practical interpretation of rulesets.
I wonder how a heavier arrow or draw weight would affect that? I know it does for rifles, but arrows or bolts? Idk
@@faithnfire4769 a twig will deflect a heavier arrow as well, depending a bit on the angle. Its more about the spine than the actual weight of the arrow though. Spine is a measurement that measures the flexibility of the arrowshaft, and is adapted to the draw weight of the bow. And this is more important for longbows than any kind of modern bows, because the arrow bends around the bow handle before it straightens up. Anyway, for rpg rules i would do it pretty simple no matter how heavy the arrow. Natural 1, deflected by a twig, natural 20 is a perfect hit. I know from experience a twig will defeat a perfect shot every time
Seems like everyone is having fun would be great to shoot with you guys!
The moment with the skull as a trophy was sublime. Truly a serendipitous wink of the cosmos celebrating you both. Wonderful video, very educational to see you both grapple with this exercise. Thank you!
This is the collab we've all been waiting for! Best two history guys on UA-cam.
If you two made a series together, it would be UNSTOPPABLE!
A UA-cam series, and / or a roleplaying campaign.
Jason owns his own forest! You know I did watch much of his stuff and did not know anything about him before I watched the judge dredd video.
Seriously I have played many of his companies and I did not even know about it.
Hanging out with Sir Jason Kingsley in his forest and shop sounds like the best time.
Yeah no disrespect to other Sir’s. But making world changing pop music. Just doesn’t compare to actually riding a horse and shooting bows.
I'm disappointed by the lack of cod-pieces here. I did think Mr Beige was wearing one in an opening shot but it turned out to be a trick of the tights. I really think they would improve this matchup no end.
Please consider this for future productions.
I really enjoy field archery, my local club has two 20 shot courses over a hill and valley which are reset weekly. Such a superior game to golf
Do you get slow archers holding up your game like on a golf course? Lmao
Yippee, a Jason and Lloyd collaboration! Been waiting for this for years. If Olympic archery looked like this, people might actually watch it. Well done, lads!!!
Haha yeah it isnt very thrilling to watch shooting of any kind on TV really, so static... 😆
I'd watch it if they shot at each other.
Exactly, if history lessons at school. Where more like this. Children would learn, remember and behave.
Lindybiege's energy is simply unmatched. Experimental archaeology brings out the kid in him which is exactly what it's supposed to do, Jason was loving it.
These two have such a good chemistry! Hope to see more collaborations.
Yes. I could listen to these guys all day.
Can only imagine what it would be like to hang out with them.
Totally agree!
Lindy really is outstanding in his field
Well, actually, Jason's field...
@@ianhelyar9553 more like Jason's forest
or even Jason's copse
Yes, his trousers were a little revealing.
Love the amateurish camera shots and angles that appear to be aiming for cinematic suspense, and are so, lovingly Lindybeige. More videos please! Need to be distracted from war...
“It’s always good to do something that challenges your ego a little bit.”
And with that, I smack the subscribe button. Give me more, my English arrow slinging intellectual.
This is the crossover I never knew I needed
I have been doing field archery in Hungary for a decade. I never done "olympic" archery, it's brainless. Thank you for spreading the word on this!
The ruleset was a bit different, there being two stakes, marking out firing positions, the closer one for children, the regular range for adults. At each target, an archer would fire 3 shots, with a hit being 5 points, with the two, more valuable zones being worth 8 or 10 points.
Unrelated but what does your username mean?
@@Sam-ot8lm It's an outdated political reference. The ruling party would accuse all opposition of being on the payroll of this neolib financier, George Soros.
@@Sam-ot8lm you know exactly what it means. which is why you asked someone with an otherwise ambiguous, random username
Wow your one of those people “oh I hate olympic archery, it’s brainless.” They have different goal and purpose smh.
@@evelynfarfellwooosh1219 I tried both. I find olympic to be monotonous. It is a preferance. If you like it, fair, it is a technical, precision sport. Enjoy it! Not my problem, but I like the less predictable, more complex challanges of this sport. When I trained, I was doing the same, set distances, concentric circles, that stuff. I get it. Don't be a dick.
I used to do field archery and loved it so much. Don't forget to take a nice hefty knife to help dig your lost arrows out of random trees ;)
What a weird coincidence, was watching a few of Modern History's videos then switched over to Lindybeige and lo and behold the first one I click on!
I showed this to a friend of mine and the first thing she said about it (field archery) was that "it is like a video game, but in real life". I think I am inclined to agree :D Field archery is so much fun!
I think Lloyd failed to really emphasize one of the best factors of this sport being one shot per peg. It simulates a moving target with a stationary target.
Think of it as the target fleeing or charging, or the shooter hitting and running.
And it adds to the sport because a well practiced archer could potentially notch their arrow while moving, and fire immediately upon reaching the next spot. I wanna try this DX
We just need Matt from Schola Gladiatoria to join them and we have a sort of Historical Top Gear xD
I love Jason and Llyod videos. Its like when you introduce a friend to another friend and they get on really well. I feel like I contributed to their friendship
the self-heckling is what makes it work so well.
Great job, both of you!
And a field archer always carries a stout knife to dig arrows out of trees 😁
or knees 🤣Happened to a friend when out on my first field archery competition, I had to stop near the end of the competition to take him to hospital. His arrow had gone a bit off course and stuck in a tree, by dint of digging it out with the stout knife and a lot of hefty tugging the arrow sprang free and the knock embedded it's self into his thigh just above the knee.
Of course Skyrim T-Shirts were exchanged after the visit to the hospital ... "I used to be a field archer until I took an arrow to the knee" 🏹🎯⚔
@@Alicatt1 Christ this is why would always pull arrows at and angle past your body.
@@JackHGUK It was at an angle to me... not the other bloke tho 😁 he was the "expert" that had invited me along and he has shot field and 3D internationally: imgur.com/tYnB7O1.jpg
this is myself at the same shoot: imgur.com/3KekBBg.jpg
I would love a match of field Archery with all medieval youtubers that own a bow "matt easton, shad, etc." it would be lots of fun!
This would be pure legend if one managed to put together all of them. Sadly Shad is on the other side of thé world if I remember correctly
@@davidducouret791 yeah, he's from New Zealand, if I remember correctly?
@@maddie9602 I think so, yes
But I would definitely go for it.
Who wants to be a patreon to fund a meeting with #lindybeige Jason Knightley
, Matt Easton, Shadiversity, err... I can't remember the name of the Italian guy as well.
I would even be ready to negociate with the city of Agincourt for that
Nota Bene, French guy, really nice
ua-cam.com/video/PKk_HODR81Y/v-deo.html
This was most weekends of my childhood in middle georgia, USA. It WAS great fun. Think I'll take my daughter out to try it this weekend. Thanks fellas!
I love the juxtaposition of Jason in his videos on his channel being very graceful and elegant but here they're both just some mates shooting at stuff
For a fearful moment there, I was concerned that the bloody-mawed goose of crannog thule would rack up another two victims!
10:27 ahhh interesting. Do we have any idea how, say, armouries would have stored arrows to prevent them from deforming? I assume castles , etc.. would have to store a certain amount of arrows to have available, over years potentially as well?
The problem with castles - and their attendant garrisons - was that they cost money to maintain. Governments being what they are, penny-pinching was the norm. I once did some research for a book on castles in Wales (not Welsh castles; about half the castles in the book were built by the English) and I repeatedly found reports about the sad state of both the state of the castle itself (leaking roofs and rotten gates etc) and of the stock both of provisions and weaponry. I remember one entry (I forget for which castle) that said "We have five lances - but only three of them have heads." So that's three lances and two sticks, really.
I doubt that the stock of arrows was much better, in terms of quality or quantity.
This may explain why so many accounts of castle seiges feature the defenders throwing rocks.
@@lomax343 Similar to some modern militaries then.
I guess rocks are cheap, low skill and expedient for enemies below you (who would be difficult to shoot with bows anyway).
I would assume that they only kept a reasonable amount of arrows and a fletcher would quickly make more if needed. Keeping the parts separate would make storage easier. If you take a bundle and tie it together it would less likely warp out of shape. Then store it into a canvas oil sack or a chest that can prevent it. This is just a guess
I’d be interested to know as well.
I would wager armories didn’t. Precision is not important in massed volleys or individual defenders from battlements firing on massed attackers. I would likewise wager that bulk arrows and bolts were not even that well maintained in terms of keeping the tip waxed. I think they were stored in relatively dry conditions, possibly packed into barrels for easy distribution when needed.
People’s personal arrows for hunting or the odd marksman (as opposed to just you run of the mill massed volley archer) would likely be the only ones carefully maintaining their arrows. Heck we know the best marksmen made their own arrows and many made their own bows.
This video makes me feel normal. So glad they didn’t edit themselves into super humans . What a treat these two blokes are. This is how history should be taught at school. Scholagladiatoria brought me here. UA-cam at its best. Instantly feel happy. Cheers to you all. From a peasant in the northern forests .
This is genuinely the most enjoyable form of archery in my opinion. Together with clout archery, I feel that these are the most "original" forms of archery out there.
Would you be kind enough to enlighten me about what clout archery is, dear commenter ?
@@lc1138 Clout archery is the practice of placing a marker, like a flag, at a large distance in a field (the WA rules specify 165 meters). Then the participants try to let their arrows land as close to that marker as possible, usually having a scoring area with a radius of around 2.5 to 7.5 meters around it.
This is obviously a form derived from battlefield-practice. Training the archers to hit enemy formations at relatively long distance.
@@DeHeld8 Thank you very much !
Been on a Modern History binge recently, lovely to see you two together
I have 2 longbows that were made by a friend of the family. He was an English transplant living in Canada. I've been to so many archery tournaments with them.
The chemistry of the two is beutiful
THIS is too much freaking fun! Thank you both for the collab (and please keep it up)!
Shooting a longbow in the woods with a mate sounds like a great day to me
When I was doing traditional(ish) archery, (recurve, glove, no sights or attachments) I often noticed that my first shot of the day was my best, after that I started thinking about it and it went south until I got back in the swing. Instinctive works.
Modern history TV!!!!! The collaboration of the year
"Jason happens to own a forest"
I can almost taste the jealous because I can taste mine. Lucky bastard...
What a fun video! I've used the sniper rifle analogy as well. Modern bows are like sniper rifles whereas my selfbows are like muskets in comparison. Harder to use but way more challenging and, in my opinion, more fun.
Compound bows are like sniper rifles except they still have the reload time of a musket. Olympic recurve bows are the worst of both worlds. They have a longer reload time and the most extra gear to carry around, but they're still not as accurate as compound. No practical use in the real world outside of static target shooting. Not to knock on Olympic shooting too much, I'm sure it's still fun in its own right. But nothing beats the feeling of traditional instinctive shooting.
So cool to see a collaborative effort from the two of you, I’ve barely even started the video but the thumbnail made me click immediately. Cheers boys.
You know what's also fun? Compound bows with sights. If you thought missing the target was fun, just wait until you start to hit it sometimes!
This is my sport. There used to be a series of tournaments in southern germany that were scored together. They were in December, january and february. Reading the weather forecast was always part of the fun.
The perks of having a land owning friend.
What a lovely collaboration! And props to Jason for shooting on the right side in Lars Andersen style!
That may partially explain the poor shooting...
Pima County, Arizona has an archery range in the desert.
Aside from the standard range and crossbow range, there is a walking path that winds through the desert. And as you turn around a cactus or bush, there is a target at distances that range from 10 to 30 yards. There are two of these winding paths with maybe a dozen or so targets on each path.
It is designed for bow-hunters but people like us it is just fun!
There's just something about the sound of a long bow and those targets make a very satisfying thud as well.
Field archery is a great sport as you said so much more involving than Olympic archery
To be good at Field Archery you need to practice Target Archery.
@@maryginger4877 all Archery is target archery, after all thats what you aim at whether its a piece of paper with coloured rings or a 3D foam target.
Field archery should BE Olympic sport. It would be so much more interesting to watch.
What a dream team!
The hell with the archery--I want that woodshop!
RED WHITE AND BLUE IS THE PROPER ORDER OF THOSE COLORS!!
This is genius! I can't wait to try something like this at the range.
Great to see Jason Kingsley in another of your videos!
This is one of my favorite videos! Watching two interesting fellows have a clearly enjoyable time is great!
Brokeback mountain vibes
Finding people who can make learning fun stuff funnererer is a GOOD thing.
My two favorite medieval history UA-camrs in one video!
Nice way to spend a cold and wet tuesday night watching some beige
I'm of the opinion that Sir Lindy is a bit of a Clark Kent character, hiding his true identity as a super powered genius of medieval lore. Just observe how easily he broke that tree limb whilst retrieving his arrowhead! Great video, I enjoyed it immensely!
lovely colab great to see you two together
I love Lindybeige's childlike glee at finding his prize for killing Ugbash: a deer skull in the woods
just 2 blokes with bows in a forest, lovely
Thank you Lindybeige and Jason, you both make great synergy together
love the cut scenes with all of the releases and hits, and yes, a satisfying thunk
22:56 That quick series of cuts is just so... chef kiss. Fantastic video
Its fun watching Lindy do archery 🏹 🎯 🏹
For anyone offended (I've seen four of you so far.) Lindy doesn't actually hate Olympic archery, he's just poking fun.
Some people look for any reason to be offended. They will see your comment and leave a hateful comment anyway. Don't waste your energy on them. I'm sure Lindy doesn't care what they say.
Yes, that does look a lot more fun!
When I've had people over in the past, we would usually follow all the guidelines from the archery club. Partly bc of uncertainty on the legal aspects, and party just trying to be responsible since we were teens and prone to bouts of idiocy.
But I think now I will give this a go with some some of my now-grown friends. I am off to build an archery assault course.
I know nothing about these techniques you are using though, with arched backs etc. Will have to investigate and do some testing.
Thank you gentlemen. Your channels are fantastic!
Finally the crossover we've been waiting for! Destiny is fulfilled
Ugbash was an adventurer once, before Lindybeige shot him in the knee.
I’m loving this hangout format doing fun historic stuff! This is prime content for each of you!
Woop woop. I couldn’t agree more! I’m a longbowman from Southampton Archery club and I love all your videos! What’s best is the thriving popularity of longbow right now and how a lot of young adults like me are taking it up because it’s honestly exceptionally fun. Especially field archery! It’s like you’re head and your body are in sync! 😄🏹🏹
Lindybeige and Jason Kingsley together in a video ? My day Washington already bright but it became even brighter !
Perfect cross over, love both you guys!
Hugely entertaining and thoroughly enjoyable watch . Thank you
best collab ever
No way, What a collaboration! Literally my two favourite history channels, man I’m so happy😁
You haven't found Side Quest yet?
Its such a fun video, i hope you make more collabs with him. You two have a lot of chemistry weird for sure but its so fun.
Hey, isn't that mule guy? I was clicking around and I think it was this guy who was like "We know how this might have happened on a horse but we don't know how it worked with mules. So I bought one." Just like that was it? "Hm. Think I'll buy a mule today." Mules are not inexpensive if you're wondering. But no, he's actually really cool and he does historical test many mounted on one animal or another.
Several sheets of cardboard taped together, from your local supermarket (ask and they give it to you) also works well as a target.
23:02 when you think that lloyd announces his end on youtube because he talks about "not always being there for us" but its just one incredibly smooth transition to audible