While Riven kept implying Mara as the culprit of the egg-scape, I kept thinking about The Nine and how they had their own secret ahamkara - and how they might want more.
True, especially since the Nine wanted to dispose of all "remaining Ahamkara" right after Riven was taken. Which brought up the question, "Isn't Riven the last?". But now that we know Riven had eggs, the Nine may actually be referring to the eggs.
A small detail about the Chamber of Starlight Lost Sector part of this week's mission. If you complete it as an Awoken, at the very end of Petra's trip down memory lane, she says to your Guardian "I wish you could remember it". I've always loved these small details that they add in for the Awoken Guardians that I wish we had more of for even just the Exos
So: Mara, Savathün are your main 2 for hiding the eggs. Mara didn’t know and genuinely looked surprised. But the parasite missions makes me skeptical of her. Savathun will always be sus. I have another feeling that either Petra or Sjur Eido might be behind the hidden eggs within the key lines or Xivu Arath. Osiris makes little to no sense doing it unless he had a really good reason. Another option is Fikrul since his Scorn are mobilizing finally. My money is on Sjur Eido or Fikrul.
Another possible culprit would be the Nine. IIrc, the Nine talked amongst themselves about disposing of the remaining Ahamkara after Riven was taken. Which was weird because Riven was supposed to be the last Ahamkara. But now that we know she had eggs, it's possible the Nine were talking about the eggs back then.
Great video! Unfortunately, my mind was distracted by Guardian "DookieBootyFartWater" over there just watching the scene unfold between Crow and Petra.
Bro, that last terminal transmission had me scared that our boi Shaxx was so down bad for Mara, he was begging on his knees. I would have never played another crucible match again.
So... is there a lore reason why Riven can't manipulate the Techeans who spend literally all day right in front of her, even if she can't grant wishes, it seems like she could trick them into all kinds of things that might be detremental to us, like hatching the eggs or keeping them out of Mara's grasp if she tries to get control of them.
Riven trying to trick mara is also there to trick the player as well. Nothing happened between her and shaxx which is why Mara knew it was a trick. Ahamkara are also aware they are in a game and bungie knows everyone wants this shaxx/mara thing to be something so the dialouge was there to trick us to.
Oh what about Oryx? He was the one who took Riven after all maybe he threw them into the ley lines as collateral. Riven kept her will maybe he knew that was a possibility of Riven turning against him “obey me or you will never see your clutch again” sort of bargain. Edit: would Oryx know what the ley lines are.
If you go an watch the cutscenes with mara sovs fleet goes up against oryx; mara sov summons the harbingers. Basically Uber powerful balls of energy that have gained a somewhat sentience
I want people to remember that the witness linked with *our* ghost, and if the veil and traveller are connected with the ghosts, does that mean we can enter?
Weak argument from the wish dragon, Mara is rarely manipulative because she's self sufficient, much more often is she unhelpful or apathetic instead. And of course, similar to rivens potential gain, she has her people to protect and comfort. They have similar goals, but very different reasons, and very clearly hate one another, but care more of efficiency than relations.
Well, remember that she has no altruistic ends. She supports her people in a codependent relationship, she makes sure that a more fitting ruler doesn't emerge. She is slowly shedding these ideas, but you have to realize how many tens of thousands of years she's spent in hyperbolic time.
@@kais295 when she speaks about Riven’s ulterior motives, she might be projecting her own onto her. She could be another disciple. Imagine Mara Sov as a raid boss. Though I have a feeling her fate has already been sealed, but not by us.
@@XxMsBellaNutellaxXMara being a disciple doesn’t make sense. The Witness has already tried to recruit Mara and failed. Not to mention the Witness doesn’t have anything to bargain with. She is projecting, but remember that we would have been defeated during the Taken King if it wasn’t for her.
Sounds like Shaxx caught a "7th column" on Mara's buns that night. He probably told her after "Glory comes and goes Mara. If you want it, it can be yours again!" Thats why she was like "Riven, we both know that aint Shaxx" 😂😂😂😂
I just figured it out, Riven was able to somehow see what the future would bring with The Witness and The Final Shape and caused the Great Ahamkara Hunt specifically so WE WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO ANOTHER AHAMKARA. Riven's eggs had already been sequestered at that point and this was the only way she could see to her eggs getting released. She caused the very near extinction of her species in order to force the Vanguard and other powers to find and recover her eggs.
Either Mara is guilty of moving the eggs and plans to destroy them after Riven holds up her end, or we’re gonna get a new baddie that’ll be an obstacle before we can pursue The Witness. Also, Bungie needs to chill with how many times characters have ALREADY said “The Final Shape.” We get it. 🤣 Kinda kills the mood and hype when they keep repeating it in such forced dialogue. Lol. I had no idea about Shaxx and Mara. An interesting pairing. It’s cool the VA for Shaxx is getting some new lines, even if it was fake. Lol. Curious to see what happens next week!
Incorrect, Both Bungie and the lore of the game has basically stated that the lore entry isn't what everyone interpreted it to be. Mara has and has lost the one she loved and that love has not wavered.
@@liambethell2584 and yet they have this in cinematic audio. Playing a trick but still only hamming up the truth of their past, the side piece that is shaxx and mara..
@@DustinDIY it doesn't fot either character. The written lore enteries of the situation states that all he did was read the tempest to Mara and then they chatted about Sjur as she was both Shaxxs friend and Maras lover. The whole reason Shax is reading the Tempest is because it was what Sjur would do. Bungie knows what the community incrorectly thinks on the mara/shax situation and this dialouge is as much to troll the community as it is Mara
HAD me FOOLED was just like "damn didnt know shaxx was a simp" sad to see my ass would fall for rivens tricks so easi;y
Wouldn't we all tho
Same here, laughed so hard at the situation though😁
I'm glad I saw her trick as soon as it started, phew
While Riven kept implying Mara as the culprit of the egg-scape, I kept thinking about The Nine and how they had their own secret ahamkara - and how they might want more.
Could have been Oryx’s doing when he took Riven as collateral.
@DragonKnight90001 That's a very good point and could explain how Savathun got her hands on one.
True, especially since the Nine wanted to dispose of all "remaining Ahamkara" right after Riven was taken. Which brought up the question, "Isn't Riven the last?". But now that we know Riven had eggs, the Nine may actually be referring to the eggs.
I didn't even think about the nine, I forget they're also involved with the wish dragons
That would make too much sense. Knowing bungie, they’re gonna pull something we haven’t even heard of
A small detail about the Chamber of Starlight Lost Sector part of this week's mission. If you complete it as an Awoken, at the very end of Petra's trip down memory lane, she says to your Guardian "I wish you could remember it". I've always loved these small details that they add in for the Awoken Guardians that I wish we had more of for even just the Exos
So: Mara, Savathün are your main 2 for hiding the eggs. Mara didn’t know and genuinely looked surprised. But the parasite missions makes me skeptical of her. Savathun will always be sus. I have another feeling that either Petra or Sjur Eido might be behind the hidden eggs within the key lines or Xivu Arath. Osiris makes little to no sense doing it unless he had a really good reason. Another option is Fikrul since his Scorn are mobilizing finally.
My money is on Sjur Eido or Fikrul.
👀 that would be a great twist
Another possible culprit would be the Nine. IIrc, the Nine talked amongst themselves about disposing of the remaining Ahamkara after Riven was taken. Which was weird because Riven was supposed to be the last Ahamkara. But now that we know she had eggs, it's possible the Nine were talking about the eggs back then.
@EvazeOfficial so it's Easter simulator?
“It takes time, as all things do” Yeah we got 7 months soooooo take ur time Osiris.
Riven playing dirty with Shaxx's voice lol
I actually thought that was shaxx for real
"KEEP MY QUEEN'S WRATH'S NAME *_OUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH!!!!_* " - Queen Mara Sov
Great video! Unfortunately, my mind was distracted by Guardian "DookieBootyFartWater" over there just watching the scene unfold between Crow and Petra.
The riven trick does in fact prove the lore entries about shax staying a long time and the helmet stayed on,... Mean exactly what we thought
5:35 Riven calling warlocks broken.
Warlock with the weil of radiance😶
Lmao
That would be awesome if that's what riven was referring to. She's taking about Osiris. " Broken Warlock"
Bro, that last terminal transmission had me scared that our boi Shaxx was so down bad for Mara, he was begging on his knees. I would have never played another crucible match again.
So... is there a lore reason why Riven can't manipulate the Techeans who spend literally all day right in front of her, even if she can't grant wishes, it seems like she could trick them into all kinds of things that might be detremental to us, like hatching the eggs or keeping them out of Mara's grasp if she tries to get control of them.
Riven trying to trick mara is also there to trick the player as well. Nothing happened between her and shaxx which is why Mara knew it was a trick. Ahamkara are also aware they are in a game and bungie knows everyone wants this shaxx/mara thing to be something so the dialouge was there to trick us to.
Oh what about Oryx? He was the one who took Riven after all maybe he threw them into the ley lines as collateral. Riven kept her will maybe he knew that was a possibility of Riven turning against him “obey me or you will never see your clutch again” sort of bargain.
Edit: would Oryx know what the ley lines are.
My guess is that the one who scattered Rivens eggs is her baby daddy
uldren hid the eggs in forsaken. that’s why he can’t remember and no one else knows
what are harbringers? what are corsairs? You should do a video on awoken lore
If you go an watch the cutscenes with mara sovs fleet goes up against oryx; mara sov summons the harbingers. Basically Uber powerful balls of energy that have gained a somewhat sentience
Great recap! Thank you
I want people to remember that the witness linked with *our* ghost, and if the veil and traveller are connected with the ghosts, does that mean we can enter?
Weak argument from the wish dragon, Mara is rarely manipulative because she's self sufficient, much more often is she unhelpful or apathetic instead. And of course, similar to rivens potential gain, she has her people to protect and comfort. They have similar goals, but very different reasons, and very clearly hate one another, but care more of efficiency than relations.
Well, remember that she has no altruistic ends. She supports her people in a codependent relationship, she makes sure that a more fitting ruler doesn't emerge. She is slowly shedding these ideas, but you have to realize how many tens of thousands of years she's spent in hyperbolic time.
I still have Mara on my hit list to this day since Forsaken. I don’t trust her, but I do trust my instincts.
She helps us out but there's just something about her,
My instincs say smash
@@kais295 when she speaks about Riven’s ulterior motives, she might be projecting her own onto her. She could be another disciple. Imagine Mara Sov as a raid boss. Though I have a feeling her fate has already been sealed, but not by us.
You take that back about my Queen.
@@XxMsBellaNutellaxXMara being a disciple doesn’t make sense. The Witness has already tried to recruit Mara and failed. Not to mention the Witness doesn’t have anything to bargain with. She is projecting, but remember that we would have been defeated during the Taken King if it wasn’t for her.
Wait... so... if Riven would even dare to make that kind of joke about Shaxx and Mara makes me think that something else did happen.
Forget this other stuff Shaxx has so much damn rizz it’s insane
Shaxx is natural rizz
Sounds like Shaxx caught a "7th column" on Mara's buns that night. He probably told her after "Glory comes and goes Mara. If you want it, it can be yours again!"
Thats why she was like "Riven, we both know that aint Shaxx" 😂😂😂😂
That 7th column really awoken here ;p
I just figured it out, Riven was able to somehow see what the future would bring with The Witness and The Final Shape and caused the Great Ahamkara Hunt specifically so WE WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO ANOTHER AHAMKARA. Riven's eggs had already been sequestered at that point and this was the only way she could see to her eggs getting released. She caused the very near extinction of her species in order to force the Vanguard and other powers to find and recover her eggs.
that doesn't sound right 🤔
I bet that Mara is an Ahamkara.
in the end osiris will find a way to open the portal and savathun will have her crafted wish granted. lol. imagine.
Shaxx is about to woop Riven's behind ten fold!
Pretty much confirms the helmet staying on DID mean they fucked lol.
I like this season story arc
how does she know about osirs doings....i dont get it?
Mara sov is an Ahamkara…..😂
Mara made a deal with the witness to free the dreaming city. Osiris is a dead end and she knows that
Either Mara is guilty of moving the eggs and plans to destroy them after Riven holds up her end, or we’re gonna get a new baddie that’ll be an obstacle before we can pursue The Witness.
Also, Bungie needs to chill with how many times characters have ALREADY said “The Final Shape.” We get it. 🤣 Kinda kills the mood and hype when they keep repeating it in such forced dialogue. Lol.
I had no idea about Shaxx and Mara. An interesting pairing. It’s cool the VA for Shaxx is getting some new lines, even if it was fake. Lol.
Curious to see what happens next week!
Do we know the father of the eggs, if there is one? And if so, did he hide them?
He's probably out getting milk
lol XD@@johngancarcik5682
Man even i can tell that wasn't shaxx, shaxx was to much of a chad to sound like that
We all know that’s the reason he shouts so loudly. Bro knows he’s done something none else has. He played patty cake with Mara😏🤣
He iced her cake
LMFAO I DIDNT EXPECT IT TO BE MARA WHOS THE DOWN BAD ONE
She believe it was the queen who did it but let’s see..
Riven is good 😮💨
They way the wish dragon, calls us “guardian” instead of “o’ guardian mine” is weird to me
it just proves that for once she's just trying to get help
Shaxx just like me fr 😎😎😎
Shaxx wants to frost that cake
shaxx tryna hit lol
Tryna? He literally did lol
shax moment
Idc if mara is evil. Siding with mama mara 10/10 times
nahhh shaxxx clap them cheeks naahhhhhhhhhh bro
Hellllll yeeeeaaaahhhh!!!
nope
Shaxx sounds desperate, man is thirsty
Oh he got some, but he wants more
The riven trick does in fact prove the lore entries about shax staying a long time and the helmet stayed on,... Mean exactly what we thought
Incorrect, Both Bungie and the lore of the game has basically stated that the lore entry isn't what everyone interpreted it to be. Mara has and has lost the one she loved and that love has not wavered.
@@liambethell2584 and yet they have this in cinematic audio. Playing a trick but still only hamming up the truth of their past, the side piece that is shaxx and mara..
@@DustinDIY it doesn't fot either character. The written lore enteries of the situation states that all he did was read the tempest to Mara and then they chatted about Sjur as she was both Shaxxs friend and Maras lover. The whole reason Shax is reading the Tempest is because it was what Sjur would do. Bungie knows what the community incrorectly thinks on the mara/shax situation and this dialouge is as much to troll the community as it is Mara