Word of Wisdom Eating | Evidence For Latter-Day Saints To Eat Less Meat
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- Here's an old speech I gave once. Good times! Watch the documentary I helped create here: • Discovering the Word o...
Written version here: gregswilliams.w...
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Resource #2: Water Facts. Retrieved December 1, 2014 from the World Wide Web. water.org/water...
Resource #3: UN News Center. Retrieved November 8, 2014 from the World Wide Web: bit.ly/10Ed8Px
Resource #4: Doctrine and Covenants Section 89. www.lds.org/sc...
Thank you for sharing the truth with the world. I wish that part of the word of wisdom was more opely talked at church so it would bless even more lives.
Eat meat sparingly is misunderstood more so than hot drinks.
“Not only in winter” which implies it should be eaten sparingly ALL YEAR ROUND. We can’t halfway read verses.
I love this! I wish that it didn't seem odd and difficult, members of our church have really gotten far away from this part of the Word of Wisdom.
Yes! 🙌🏻 D&C 89: 11-12 supports God’s Original (Optimal) Diet found in Genesis 1:29, Moses 2:29, & Abraham 4:29.
Excellent talk. Keep in mind the Lord has also cautioned many times that he'd prefer it if we didn't eat meat at all, except only when absolutely necessary such as winter (old days, we don't have food scarcity in the winter presently), famine, or drought.
revtune for sure! my goal in this talk was to encourage baby steps in that direction. small and simple things right?
Very true. I guess at this stage in the game, just getting people to cut back would be a major achievement.
Greg Williams I appreciate the baby steps in trying to get people to follow this commandment because most in the US at least, eat meat everyday.
However, I ask you why you or the church don't stress the part about FAMINE. Of coarse I don't ask you to speak for a whole organization but I ask why (you personally or anyone else reading this) think the church doesn't address and discuss this when it is seems clearly written (to my translation) that we should only eat meat if we have to as a last resort?
Thanks Adam, it is something to be discussed more thoroughly for sure. I know in the English version there is some discussion and even debate about whether that is really what it is saying at all. My friend Jane Birch has taken quite a bit of time trying to help folks understand that though. I didn't have the scope in this talk to cover every element and was just hoping to garner more serious interest for folks who may have never really considered this before. Check out Jane's work though!: discoveringthewordofwisdom.com/about/the-word-of-wisdom/wow-faqs/
@zbestman1 Yes, I think that is great you know yourself well enough to go full big steps!
Thank you for the tip at the end about how to ease into this!
It’s very confusing BECAUSE carbs are sugar which also cause plaques dementia etc. I’m a Latter Day Saint and I am a nurse. I’ll never ever understand. My parents are vegetarians and have had heart attacks etc but there are proven studies and living people healing themselves from no carb low carb carnivore diets. Gluten intolerance, diabetes, cancer etc with just eating vegetables and protein
Eating meat does not cause heart attacks it’s actually insulin from eating frequently and carbs that cause arteries to harden. Wheat may be the staff of life but with all the sprays and grain issues it causes a lot of digestive issues
So I’ll never ever understand one side more than the other because I see living proof on the adverse effects of carbs rice wheat potatoes corn sugar flour oatmeal spike insulin and that leads to other issues so it’s out there all the research cause inflammation cause obesity and diabetes
Please don’t come back at me in the comment section because I’ve seen it all and heard it all and I was a vegetarian for 10 years myself. I’m simply saying I’ll never understand the wheat part the eat meat sparingly part when I see all the sick people.
I loved being a vegetarian I also love eating meat who knows. I think a low carb diet is best in my humble opinion
I've also heard of so many people on the carnivore diet who have been able to reverse their health problems.
I've been carnivore for 4 months now, off insulin and metformin. Lost 35 pounds without trying. Eat meat with lots of fat, and only eat carbs/grains in times of famine, winning combo. This video on Word of Wisdom Eating/Evidence is complete misinfo interpretation in my personal revelation. See Dr. Berry and Proper Human Diet. We are mortals in bodies restricted to the biology of this world.
I’m here with this concern. I’ve adopted a meat based lifestyle and will soon be baptized into the church. Since doing this lifestyle change I’ve lost weight, reversed type 2 diabetes, no longer have joint pains, inflammation has reduced and im playing with my kids now. How am I supposed to adhere to the WoW?
My opinion is that Old Testament/D&C are agricultural revolution texts and worship the god of agricultural societies.
@@Jjprime-wd6ouwhat conclusion did you come to? You could choose to see your diet as medicinal.
Arguing against the word of wisdom thinking one has new knowledge or sees benefits from things like keto etc compared to what the Lord presented shows a lack of faith and a misunderstanding. Yes those things work, but it’s not what He’s asked us to do or the method He prescribed. Just my two cents.
I love this video. God gives us his examples of what “sparingly” means; eating meat only in times of winter, cold, famine, or excess of hunger, meaning to me that it’s purpose is as a supplement to our diet when our dietary needs are unfulfilled or lacking. The way I see it, here in the United States where healthy plant-based foods are cheap and easily accessible where our dietary needs are easily met through a plant-based diet, and where our government subsidizes meat so it is cheaper and therefore consumed at a much higher rate than most other countries, we have more responsibility than others to consume less meat than, say, someone who I met from Brazil who can’t afford a lot of healthy foods because they are only available in the expensive canned form. It depends on the person’s circumstances.
What do you do if you meet a bishop who eats a lot? When I told him that I wanted to eat less meat he told me to eat more meats. I’m like what???
That's strange :/ but everyone can have their own opinion, Bishops included as the letter of the law doesn't specify the quantity of meat we should eat.
Greg Williams That’s why my bishop is overweight now.
It's unfortunate, but remember that your bishop is imperfect like the rest of us and he's running on an opinion that has been ingrained in him since childhood. It's hard to change habit and it's even harder to change lifestyle. Some people will come around in this life and some people just won't. It's our duty to love them anyway
@@Gdubwizz it's not a choice when there's a victim. Animals feel pain, have consciousness, emotions and want to live just like us. If we can eat something that doesn't have a victim why wouldn't we?
Bishops are usually pretty good men, but they may need to be gently reminded of the WOW
Very well presented. Thank you for sharing!
Glad you found it valuable!
It’s Ironic, our brothers and sisters in the Seventh Day Adventist church don’t have the WOW but are one of the healthiest populations on the planet. One of the Blue Zones Loma Linda, California. Their tenet is the body is the temple of our spirit and to take care of it. Thus they eat predominately plant based. We also as members believe in this tenet, but somehow have not understood the consequences of not following its wisdom. The same with the WOW. Members have missed the most important part, The Lord said I prefer they (animals) NOT be USED. but he knows there may be circumstances like famine and extreme cold winters. Although these days modern transportation can usually get food anywhere in the planet.
Loved your info on the abuse of water and land resources being used in Animal Agriculture. It’s killing the planet more than all carbon output of all forms of transportation combined. Thank you for an excellent presentation.
Thank you for your comments. Yes I served my mission near Loma Linda, it's pretty remarkable!
Thank you for your response, I didn’t expect it since your talk was given so long ago. I became Whole plant food vegan in 2016. Following Dr McDougalls “Starch Solution” plan.
There’s an RM she has a UA-cam channel “Plant Whys” her husband had a stroke and she helped him heal via whole plant food lifestyle. I found your talk after watching “Return to Sparingly” on UA-cam.
As a Biologist I enjoy the science UA-cam channels “Nutrition made simple” “The Proof” “Plant Chompers” “Mic the vegan” “Nutrition facts” with Dr Greger. “Peter Rogers MD” he’s very down to earth but brilliant.
Be well.
Plants to the Rescue!
God also never said we need to eat sweets, empty carbs, lots of processed foods at at ever freakin church function either. I wish the word of wisdom said something about eating sugar “very” sparingly. That would be extremely helpful. Sugar and processed carbs are just as much a contributer to the metabolic diseases that are killing people in America.... particularly obesity and type 2 diabetes. Nobody seems to care about the damage that does peoples bodies. They celebrate all these cookies, cakes as gifts...as if these foods are one of the pleasurable things God has given church member to indulge in as a substitute for other “forbidden” indulgences. Eating less meat and especially cutting out the red and processed meats is a no brainer. The science is very clear as well as the lethargic way these foods make you feel after eating them. But regularly eating lean protein sources such as salmon, chicken, and turkey breast balanced with some legumes, WHOLE grains, and lots of whole fruits and veggie is the winning combo. Anybody that eats this way and cuts out red, processed meats, processed carbs, and sugar will lose ALWAYS lose weight and their “lab values” will show that they are healthy. There are of course rare exceptions with people who have food allergies and intolerances. So these specifics need to be pointed out. All the sugar that members eat leads to diabetes which drastically increases ones risk of heart disease. It would be extremely helpful to the overall health of church members to eat less processed and red meat but also less sugar and processed foods in general. We need to look at the big picture and be telling the whole truth.
Agreed! I worked on this film which takes a broader approach than what my constraints for this speech would allow. ua-cam.com/video/VXe311aVFqI/v-deo.html
Since giving this talk and making the film linked above my focus is very much in line with what you are suggesting.
Good work!
Meh
1. Last year, i lost 25 lbs eating meat only
2. On calorie restriction one could lose weight on donuts only diet.
3. "Use" does not = "eat"
4. "Sparingly" has been interpreted to mean "sparingly of the life of the animal" (Hugh Nibley and also Pres Benson), which is consistent with D&C 49 where it also says to have meat in "abundance"!
5. Last I checked, plants require far more water than animals. Poor African children😢. Eating plants takes away their water.
6. Timothy in New testament warns against those who say to abstain from meat in the last days. Not of God.
7. We are currently in a "nutrition famine". Just visit your local walmart.
8. Imma have a steak
FALSE
ok
@@Gdubwizz I forgot which Elder said it but they said Mormon’s biggest mistake and sin was writing slanderous material about the Lamanites and didn’t love his enemies. The Word of Wisdom is also not a commandment or meant to be restrictive. Carnivore diets have helped many people with auto-immune disorders, like celiac disease. Plants have anti-nutrients and other things that harm the human body, like gluten. The truth is that no one knows how we should eat and that it’s a personal journey like a spiritual journey is with Christ.
@@jack_wparsons Agreed. I think a good place to start would be cutting out the heavily processed seed oils like soybean, canola, cottonseed, etc.
I lost 30 lbs in 2 weeks on a full carnivore diet.
Carnivore is not the only diet to give successful weight loss. We’re talking spiritual and physical health with the WoW.
Why does the church have one of the largest Cattle ranches in the country?
good point, I don't know the reasons.
You are correct. I stopped eating all meat when I was 12, for a long time I was vegan I never felt more healthy and then I couldn't control myself so I brought in milk products and eggs, I gained weight now not as healthy, I will eat eggs and dairy sparingly if maybe not at all starting now. I have compassion... I love animals, I don't like murder, murder is murder to me, a baby is a baby to me, a mother is a mother to me. I never eat meat or fowl. 🕊️🙏🤍.... Any and all that feel, should never be enslaved or murdered.
This argument is psychosis
I'm open to hear other perspectives. Where is my argument the most flawed? thanks for watching.
As someone who is primarily carnivore I disagree with this whole heartedly, When the word of wisdom was given, food was pure. Now the vegetables you talk of is mostly poisioned with pesticides and toxic chemicals. Meat is one of the most nutritious things in the world. No offense but you don't look healthy to me. Lack of muscle and health body structure. I wonder if you still believe this.
Hi Siri, thank you for taking the time to watch this. Even these many years later I am always amazed that people would take the time to watch this. Thank you!
I do still believe this. And no offense taken about your comment about my body. I'm told by my doctors that I am very healthy.
@@Gdubwizz no worries! I just am passionate about the subject and see so many memebers looking so unhealthy eating processed food while waiting in line for crumbl and sodalicious. I've been vocal about the food that wards serve at activities which is unhealthy and unprocessed. I've never felt better eating unproccessed foods, low carbs, organic fruit/veg, low sugar and high quality meats.
Its hard to tell about your body but it also could be the baggy clothing so def not trying to throw shade. Every doctor that I know is overweight and it seems that lots of the modern dietary has been wrong so I take doctors advice with a grain of salt.
How old are you?
Forever vegetables and fruits have had built in pesticides and chemical defenses against animals and bugs. Humans do best on ruminants. Plants are a backup plan in case of famine.
This guy is 100% wrong. Red meat is something you can consume daily. Livestock are not negatively effecting the environment. If you want good nutrition advice follow Layne Norton and Stan Efferding. This guy is mixing his politics with what he's been told by the vegan community.
Thanks for taking the time to watch this and leave a comment. I respect your freedom to think and eat the way you would like to!
Caldwell Esselstyn
Besides what appears in the gospel eating pork, horse, cats, dogs, etc is REALLY bad four your health. I don’t know how the church doesn’t have an stance on this.
Yep no meat outside winter. And that was simply because in the 1800s food was scarce in winter.
So a good Mormon. NEVER eats meat unless neccessary. It's no longer neccessary