Toyota 4 Runner Quirks That You Should Know Before Buying

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  • Опубліковано 5 лис 2024

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  • @Jojo-ni2cg
    @Jojo-ni2cg 5 днів тому +5

    Thanks Jason just picked up my 2024 TRD pro in underground and today up graded my rims and tires to 275s
    Thanks for the info

  • @johnwebb2232
    @johnwebb2232 5 днів тому +4

    There's good and bad in every vehicle, i'll still take my 2016 4runner trail with kdss over any jeep. I've had zero problems with my 4runner and couldn't care a less how much fuel she drinks. It's a square box that weighs over two tons, no, it's not going to get the greatest fuel economy, but that's what it is. A vehicle that has a reputation for its reliability, dependability, and a great resale value. For a vehicle that's basically a swiss army knife that can be just about anything you want it to be. I truly think that with so much soul and character with capabilities, you couldn't ask for more from a vehicle, faults included.

  • @nancyclark8503
    @nancyclark8503 6 днів тому +13

    I can get 21 mpg on the road with my 2014 4x4 Trail edition. I love my 4 runner, best vehicle I’ve ever had.

    • @Jay-bw3fl
      @Jay-bw3fl 4 дні тому

      Maybe down a mountain lol

  • @ChristianGrest
    @ChristianGrest 5 днів тому +1

    We've had out 24 TRD ORP since august and put 2500 miles on it already. Definitely valid quirks, no doubt about it. But once you can get past those, it's a great vehicle.

  • @user-tw8ov
    @user-tw8ov 6 днів тому +9

    Have you seen the new squoria no storage what so ever

  • @mikes.4136
    @mikes.4136 6 днів тому +1

    That 4Runner looks so good! Toyota could up the payload and minimize front squat by stiffening the suspension, like they do for the Hilux, but the ride would be much more harsh.

  • @aaronsmith8335
    @aaronsmith8335 4 дні тому

    I think I have an idea about Toyota whites. I work in a plant that makes Bodyside Moldings and Spoilers for cars including Toyota. When I apply adhesion promoter to parts painted in Super White (color code 040) or Wind Chill (color code 089) the color can come off. I think that goes back to what you said about mixing White with clear, because base/clear paints don't do that.

  • @bapakbob3897
    @bapakbob3897 5 днів тому +1

    new to the 2024 4Runner, but not the platform. Fuel: just filled mine up first time, fuel light on, took 20 gals and 374.6 miles, this was all interstate miles. Meh. But when i was child, I was fixated by the star trek displays in my 2012 Prius V, and even more sophisticated data information screens on the 2023 Corolla Hybrid, both japan made. Count me in for hyper miling back then! But mpg bragging gets old pretty quick. Suffice to say I can afford to put 38 gals in my Tundra V8, 23 gals in my 4runner and leave it at that. i didn't get rich at 50mpg, I won't go to the poor house at 16mpg on the Tundra. I did notice the 4Runner flashed a kudos to me: when driving like there is an egg between you and the accelerator, the 4Runner said "ECO" in green on the speedo, how sweet. Bouncy castle ride: Get a 4Runner horse for the course you use it on more, street or off-road. One word for a 4Runner for the street, Limited. It doesn't squat, it doesn't nose dive, the limited's X-REAS suspension is street-tuned to keep the Limited on a level plane in all street use conditions. I also like the full time 4wd of the limited: my wife would not be comfortable deciding when conditions merited activation of the part time 4wd system, or which buttons and levers to actuate the part time 4WD. Handling: Ran the Tundra Limited (off-road) today and then ran the 4Runner limited on the same twisty curve route. The 4Runner limited is extremely well-behaved, quieter, smooth riding. I am still dialing in my comfort level on the curves with the 4Runner as it feels to sit higher than the Tundra (it doesn't, the Tundra is a high hoss, the 4Runner is a nice garage fit. Neither lifted.) But as a 4 different FJ's owner (same truck platform as the 4Runner), I've pushed the bouncy castle rides up interstates alot. FJ's gone simply due to their 19 gal tank, too many stops for fuel. Since then I've shortened the distance between my frequent trip destinations and the 23 gal tank 4Runner is now good for just one fillup between the two destinations. Rats? glue traps around the tires to catch the rats when sitting. Long term peace of mind? $1895 for a Toyota Platinum VSA extended warranty to 10 years, 125k miles from that midwest toyota dealer. I passed, knock wood I've never had a major repair on the 12 Toyotii I've corralled. The XREAS may fail by leaking, but you should see the GM pictograph on how much leaking is ok before you have to REPLACE their magnetic ride shocks!. These XREAS are no-tech, easy peasy, just replace the xreas with bilsteins. Everything else is bulletproof. Summary: I thought I'd be a life-long Toyota kool-aid drinker, but these are the last two unless Toyota does a 180 and decides to compete with the big three and nissan truck makers. That means Toyota V8's, or the most reliable V6 Toyota ever made: the FJ and 4Runner V6. (title conferred by no less than the Car Care Nut on you tube, the 20year+ Toyota Master Mechanic.) Buy (the 24 4Runner), enjoy and 400,000 trouble-free miles may be your reward.

  • @Frank-mo5ru
    @Frank-mo5ru 5 днів тому +1

    Brother your right about the paint work. One night, against better judgment, I parked my 2022 4runner down an alley and some mother less drunk pos brushed up against it, causing jacket zipper scuffs on the quarter panel. I brought it into my friends body shop and he got the damage out. Your right, I change the oil will mobil 1 full synthetic oil, and it'll last forever.

    • @Jason-Samko
      @Jason-Samko  5 днів тому

      @@Frank-mo5ru suxks you had to go through that

  • @SteveCallsen
    @SteveCallsen 4 дні тому

    Have a 24 trd off-road premium, everything & everyone has quirks, i can totally accept the quirks the 4 runner has way better than all the other manufacturers products & my ex wife's!!!! Unfortunately, love the yota more also!!!! 😊😅

  • @Jay-bw3fl
    @Jay-bw3fl 4 дні тому

    I had a 19 and a 23 and they both had a vibration at highway speeds that Toyota couldn’t resolve. I even bought new tires, got it aligned, road force balanced twice etc. I thought it was a fluke on the 19 but nope the 23 had it too but worse. Sucked because I bought it out of state so I didn’t get to test drive it. It was tolerable for most people but it bothered me being that it was so expensive. Other than that the worst thing about the 4runner imo is the highway performance. The thing screams to pass people and get up hills. Don’t even think about using cruise unless it’s flat as a board. Still one of the best vehicles ever made just not worth dealing with those two things for me.

  • @Smitty_76
    @Smitty_76 4 дні тому

    It's a very niche vehicle. I have the same one practically. I tell people it doesn't do any one thing great, but it does a lot of things really good. I did however buy a 2010 Tundra 4x4 with the 5.7 and have decided to keep both for now, hopefully for a long, long, time. The car industry can keep all that new turbo crap and hybrids. Also, I have no issues with my white paint at all and live in south Louisiana. I do however spay Meguire's Ultimate detail with the hydrophobic coating after I wash it on a fairly regular basis. Maybe it helps.

  • @InGratitudeIam
    @InGratitudeIam 5 днів тому +1

    You make some good observations. FYI, those are not recovery points on the bottom of the frame. Those are tie down points for towing.

    • @Jason-Samko
      @Jason-Samko  5 днів тому

      @InGratitudeIam but offroad people use those to pull 4 runners out.

  • @RangerRickTV
    @RangerRickTV 5 днів тому

    What kinda tires you recommend for a trd pro? I don't want to lift it but I would like to get the max size tires on there without rubbing.

    • @Jason-Samko
      @Jason-Samko  5 днів тому

      Stock i think is max without doing so minor fender triming. I have 32s on mine and I had to push the fender liner back and save the fender fronts a little

    • @Jason-Samko
      @Jason-Samko  5 днів тому +1

      Just saw that you said trd pro.. you can probably fit 32s with of mod as I think the pro has a 1 inch lift of im not mistaken

  • @nightdipper5178
    @nightdipper5178 5 днів тому

    Worst flaw in the 5th gen 4R is the leaking timing cover. Not enough sealant was applied where the head and block meet. Although not every 4.0 has the issue, it is somewhat common and always in the same spot. About $3K, engine out to fix at the dealer. I did it at home without removing the motor and it was $200-300 in gaskets, fluids, new hoses, belts, and a lot of work. I let it leak for 50K miles before fixing it at 205K. Got tired of the driveway stains. Alternator is the only other issue I have had in the 205K. Definitely a good truck. 16MPG.

    • @P4X1279
      @P4X1279 5 днів тому

      What year is your 4R? Do you know if they addressed the issue in later years?

    • @nightdipper5178
      @nightdipper5178 5 днів тому +1

      @@P4X1279 2010. Don't know if Toyota ever addressed it. I am aware of it happening across several years. It is a roll of the dice. If you have oil leaking around the alternator that is a sign of this issue, although it could be the oil pressure sensor if your very lucky (quick fix), I wasn't so lucky.

    • @leardi58
      @leardi58 3 дні тому

      How do we watch out for this is it at one spot and approx how many miles will it show thanks

    • @nightdipper5178
      @nightdipper5178 3 дні тому +1

      @@leardi58 I was somewhere around 100K, but I don't think it is just mileage based. Although it happens I would not consider it is extremely common. If I couldn't do the work myself I would have just kept adding oil occasionally and lived with the drip. I did let it drip for more than 50K miles prior to doing the work. It is something to check when your looking at anything used with this 4.0 V6.

  • @kevinwarrick7190
    @kevinwarrick7190 4 дні тому

    I'm getting 21 mpg with my 21 TRD ORD. My tires are stock. No storage? What are you drinking?

    • @Jason-Samko
      @Jason-Samko  4 дні тому +1

      @kevinwarrick7190 if you start offloading you will understand the storage issue. Same with the tires and mpg. But if you are just on the pavement and hauling groceries the stock tires work great and it has the storage you need

  • @benedictbislig2584
    @benedictbislig2584 2 дні тому

    Jason,
    It's an offload rig that won't leave you hanging on the trail. You can't have everything.

  • @terryhutchinson9094
    @terryhutchinson9094 5 днів тому +2

    Man your wife has a heavy foot. I am averaging 18.7 right now and get consistently 21+ on the highway. Mine is an SR5, full stock, 2024 and there is no noticeable nose-dive.

    • @Jason-Samko
      @Jason-Samko  5 днів тому

      @terryhutchinson9094 sr5 has street suspension and i have bigger aggressive off road tires

    • @terryhutchinson9094
      @terryhutchinson9094 5 днів тому +1

      @@Jason-Samko So you bought a trim tuned to off-road use; but you drive it virtually always on-road. How does it make sense to knock the truck for not being the best behaved when on-road? For your use case, you should have stock tire size and an SR5.

    • @Jason-Samko
      @Jason-Samko  5 днів тому

      @terryhutchinson9094 k. Thanks for telling me what I should of bought

    • @dmitryadamenko6518
      @dmitryadamenko6518 4 дні тому

      ​@@Jason-Samko you are welcome sir. You put stuff on the Internet, you ve got some interaction. Win win

  • @brucekrolikowski2882
    @brucekrolikowski2882 5 днів тому

    I agree with you, definitely pros and cons but I really hate where they put the wire harness access. I've laid on the ground many times.

    • @Jason-Samko
      @Jason-Samko  5 днів тому

      Agree. And for me with no paved driveway that mean laying on gravel. I'm always swearing at the engineer that came up with that stupid plan

    • @Smitty_76
      @Smitty_76 4 дні тому

      I actually disagree with y'all. There is no place to put it on the bumper that wouldn't look like shit and anywhere low on the frame risks hitting it on something when off road. Look at it good and you probably wouldn't pick a different location. I use an adapter on the 5 pin so it goes on the top.

  • @SteveCallsen
    @SteveCallsen 4 дні тому

    Mine definitely has the nose dive, at some point will do something to take care of it, i will keep this vehicle for rest of my life.

  • @jodensmith5093
    @jodensmith5093 5 днів тому +2

    Bro if your getting 16 mpg your either in town and never on the highway, or something is very wrong. You can get an easy 21 highway

  • @BP1988able
    @BP1988able 5 днів тому +1

    Regarding the cargo capacity on the 4Runner.
    Toyota needs to clarify this more for the consumer. For example my 4Runner states it has cargo capacity of 880 lbs however dealers are claiming they have capacity of
    1700 Ibs. my GVWR is 6,100 lbs. Toyota says it has a curb weight of 4,400 lbs. That would make my cargo capacity 1,700 pounds. This is right inline with other similar SUVs like the Ford Explore.
    I am not encouraging ppl to disregard the sticker on your vehicle just be confident that the 4Runner can carry a lot!

    • @Jason-Samko
      @Jason-Samko  5 днів тому

      But go over the sticker and get in an accident and it could be serious trouble

    • @skylermeredith2522
      @skylermeredith2522 День тому

      GVWR would be Cargo capacity plus the weight of the occupants, and/or the tongue weight of any trailer. There is also GAWR which is allowable weight per axle which may limit the amount of weight that can be placed over the back axle to the list 880 LBS

    • @BP1988able
      @BP1988able День тому

      Good point. I will stick to what the sticker says of 880 lbs.

  • @thecount1001
    @thecount1001 5 днів тому

    is the frame corroding to dust considered a quirk, a feature, or a bug?

  • @Yoyomanmanholla
    @Yoyomanmanholla 5 днів тому

    How can you do a 4R quirks video without mentions of the needle bearing rumble, rear garnish rubbing thru the paint?

  • @ecruz2987
    @ecruz2987 3 дні тому +1

    Sorry but you buy a 4Runner 4x4 is because you like it and don't care about gas mileage.

  • @MichaelPooPants
    @MichaelPooPants 5 днів тому

    I've only had my '24 ORP for like 3 weeks, but yeah, it definitely has some "quirks".
    This may change after I've spent more time with it but, so far, the only real issues I've had with it are the paint and how it brakes.
    I had chips in the paint by like 500-600 miles and (I'm guessing) the dealership car wash left some weird marking in the paint that I'm going to have to have dealt with.
    And the thing brakes so friggin' hard compared to anything else I've driven. I haven't owned a billion cars or anything, but they were all SUVs and I've never had to adjust to how any of them brake like I have with the 4Runner.
    I do absoultely love the thing though. I've been wanting one for years and I'm glad I got one before they changed them up.

    • @Jason-Samko
      @Jason-Samko  5 днів тому +1

      Amazing truck that will last forever bit does have some little quirks

    • @P4X1279
      @P4X1279 5 днів тому +1

      Brakes are definitely weird. These trucks don't use a vacuum booster, instead the use an accumulator system. Explains the pedal feel and the constant weird noises it makes.

    • @Jason-Samko
      @Jason-Samko  5 днів тому

      @P4X1279 good to know. Thanks for the info

  • @sheepdog3828
    @sheepdog3828 6 днів тому

    2014 trail edition got 18.4 no matter what snake oil got poured
    Into fuel tank.
    The nauti blue clear coat went away in 2019.
    The 2023 is 2wd and gets 19 town 20 hey.
    But 3rd row seat sucks when folding down seat to load cargo.
    Wish I could trade in for one without 3rd row seat.
    All else is spot on.

    • @Jason-Samko
      @Jason-Samko  6 днів тому +3

      @@sheepdog3828 sure are great vehicles

    • @sheepdog3828
      @sheepdog3828 5 днів тому +1

      @Jason-Samko indeed.
      Happy hunting sir....
      Hope you bag a tasty Elk!

  • @ratattan
    @ratattan 6 днів тому

    Maybe I'm comparing apples to oranges, but my stock 2024 SR5 2WD gets an average MPG of 18 city driving only. I had a Subaru Outback prior to this, and it was averaging 19 MPG city only. I was getting 24-25 MPG highway the other day cruising at 65 mph. So while the MPG is not the greatest, I don't think it's the worst, either. As to the 2025 4Runner, the MPG is nothing to write home about, either. The 4 cylinder turbo has more to do with emissions than with improved MPG.

  • @IntoTheMystery13
    @IntoTheMystery13 6 днів тому

    Well done

  • @leardi58
    @leardi58 3 дні тому

    The paint is a big one for me. Its driving me nuts I've tried everything to keep it up and looking good but don't know what the hell they did same color white

    • @Jason-Samko
      @Jason-Samko  2 дні тому

      @@leardi58 yep paint is a bummer

  • @Mako2-1
    @Mako2-1 6 днів тому

    I’d imagine your wife prefers the side steps but they certainly are airbrakes and heavy. I was able to average 20 on my 2018 with a/t’s and 4x4.

  • @mikejohnson9118
    @mikejohnson9118 4 дні тому

    Things you should know before buying a 4Runner:
    1. Drive a GX460//470
    2. Buy a GX460//470!

  • @Rich-eg6qb
    @Rich-eg6qb 5 днів тому +1

    The gas mileage, nose dive and not the most stable on the freeway are my cons.

  • @richardwray8478
    @richardwray8478 5 днів тому

    I will keep the 5th generation at maybe 1 mpg worse than the 6th generation. I also keep reliability.

  • @countschad
    @countschad 5 днів тому

    Illegal in what way? Federal or state illegality?

    • @Jason-Samko
      @Jason-Samko  5 днів тому

      What are you referring to?

    • @countschad
      @countschad 5 днів тому

      ​@@Jason-SamkoAt 5min46s in you refer to the payload. At 6min42s you state that, "you can get illegal in a hurry (I'm paraphrasing)." You were referring to adding larger tires, bumber, roofrack, etc...

    • @Jason-Samko
      @Jason-Samko  5 днів тому +1

      @countschad if you run your vehicle over payload capacity and get into an accident you can be denied insurance, ticketed, etc. Same as towing too heavy

    • @countschad
      @countschad 5 днів тому

      @Jason-Samko Understood.

  • @Forthetimebeing72
    @Forthetimebeing72 6 днів тому

    Cats can also get stuck in the vehicle and scratch paint when they sit on a vehicle

  • @Alloutdrs1
    @Alloutdrs1 3 дні тому

    You chase that mpg and you lose the reliability, my 21' t4r has been the best vehicle I have owned this far. Does what it's supposed to without issue, last of the golden era yotas.

  • @armen7932
    @armen7932 2 дні тому

    I have a 22 SR5 2wd, terrible MPG lol.

  • @armourbl
    @armourbl 6 днів тому +1

    Did not know about the no clear coat on the white... I've been waxing it nearly every wash (spray wax).

    • @Jason-Samko
      @Jason-Samko  6 днів тому

      The clear is mixed in to the paint rather than in top. Pros and cons to both ways i hear

  • @BoiseTDI
    @BoiseTDI 4 дні тому

    No storage except a gigantic back area. lol

  • @g.fortin3228
    @g.fortin3228 5 днів тому

    Why don't you get the thing washed and then right away..while its SUPER clean...ceramic coat it. There;s your remedy to the dirt.. it'll wash easy after you ceramic coat it.

  • @Bryan-e2n
    @Bryan-e2n 5 днів тому

    I'm not paying 20k more for a rust bucket because it's the last of the v6...

  • @caseyharris18
    @caseyharris18 5 днів тому

    I almost bought a 4Runner until you said they don’t get good gas mileage.

    • @johnwebb2232
      @johnwebb2232 5 днів тому +5

      What were you thinking? It's a square box sitting on a truck frame that weighs over two tons. Maybe look at a prius. The 4runner is one of the best vehicles ever built and built in Japan. Love my 2016 4runner trail.

    • @caseyharris18
      @caseyharris18 5 днів тому +1

      @ “sarcasm” unnecessary to include that in his video. It’s not a Honda civic

  • @briancoleman971
    @briancoleman971 6 днів тому +2

    Like these but they are not the value they used to be.

    • @markhumphrey855
      @markhumphrey855 6 днів тому +1

      Neither is a Jeep !

    • @Jason-Samko
      @Jason-Samko  6 днів тому +2

      Ant yet both have huge value when you buy em right

  • @justahumbledude
    @justahumbledude 5 днів тому

    A little too late to talk about this...inventory dried up.

    • @Jason-Samko
      @Jason-Samko  5 днів тому

      @@justahumbledude many people are flocking to the used ones and more will be when the 25 comes out

  • @TheKingOfInappropriateComments
    @TheKingOfInappropriateComments 5 днів тому

    Same issue regarding the paint on my toyotas. Toyota paint is garbage. easily chipped too and orange peel from the factory. Mildew and crap. Paint protection film would be a really good idea on any toyota. I would be very surprised if the fuel economy was much better on the 25's. Turbos... the more you need boost, the more you burn fuel. As we're seeing on the tundras and sequoia. Very disappointing MPG.

  • @jason20341
    @jason20341 2 дні тому

    That Gladiator is a piece of shit compared to the 4Runner. Ask me how I know! You want to talk about repairs and costs. 😂

    • @Jason-Samko
      @Jason-Samko  2 дні тому

      I have both sitting in my drive way and I disagree

    • @jason20341
      @jason20341 2 дні тому

      @ I have both as well and actually use them off-roading in the mountains.

    • @Jason-Samko
      @Jason-Samko  2 дні тому

      @jason20341 yep me too. I drive 200-300 miles a week offroad as I hunt for a living

  • @DUNEATV
    @DUNEATV 6 днів тому +1

    No doubt the 4-Runner is reliable however when you compare a 2024 TRD OFF-ROAD 4-Runner to a 2024 Jeep Rubicon, the Jeep is far superior! The Jeep is better in so many ways… paint, stronger accessible tow hooks, bigger tires, better gearing, eight speed transmission, stronger, transfer case and axles, better gas mileage, better visibility for offloading, several engine choices with more power and overall overwhelmingly superior off-road! I could go on and on, but this message would get too long…

    • @Jason-Samko
      @Jason-Samko  6 днів тому +1

      @@DUNEATV I absolutely agree. And even though most of the toyota fan boys will argue with me, I believe the build quality or a wrangler and glad is the same if not better.

    • @Anomize23
      @Anomize23 6 днів тому +1

      Well jeep is more of an outdoor vehicle but when it comes to their service, not a lot of confidence Ive had in them doing things right. Just from personal experience. As much as i love jeep, their service sucks and therefor I dont trust them anymore. Pay too much $$$ to not get things done right.

    • @fishinguns4975
      @fishinguns4975 6 днів тому +4

      @@Jason-SamkoI guess I view the 5th Gen 4 Runner one of the last 500k miles vehicles that Toyota has phased out. I don’t view any current Jeep that way, quite frankly since they dumped the 4.0 Iron Duke. Coming from a built XJ owner and Toyota owner.

    • @Jason-Samko
      @Jason-Samko  6 днів тому +1

      @@fishinguns4975 nothing wrong with feeling that way

    • @kristoffMR
      @kristoffMR 5 днів тому +1

      its a dodge product!