GATES MCFADDEN Reveals What Working With JIM HENSON on the MUPPETS Was Really Like

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    Gates McFadden (Star Trek, Labyrinth) joins us this week to share her decades worth of experience with Star Trek - from her true feelings about certain storylines, to her bond with the Next Generation cast, to her favorite reveals in Picard. After some ‘inside baseball’ talk about our shared passion for podcasting, Gates shares terrifying stories of coming face-to-face with her stocker multiple times… before there were safeguards or laws that protected women from predatory men. We also talk about her love for David Bowie, her forgotten kiss with Bill Murray, and her time working alongside muppet master Jim Henson.
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    GATES MCFADDEN Reveals What Working With JIM HENSON on the MUPPETS Was Really Like #insideofyou #gatesmcfadden #startrek #muppets
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  • @MichaelLaing71
    @MichaelLaing71 Рік тому +44

    I worked as an extra on Muppets most wanted, and I have to have to say that was the most amazing experience. The muppeteers were amazing and really nice as well. Just seeing the entire process, of them becoming the characters and interacting with each other was one of the most memorable experiences, I have had on either side of the camera.

  • @Musashi413
    @Musashi413 Рік тому +51

    I was briefly acquainted with one of Jim Henson's daughters, Cheryl, during my sophomore year in college. We met by chance in the stairwell, and I offered to help her with a small coffee table she was carrying. She was in the process of getting rid of it, and so let me have it. She must have told me about her father's impending visit to campus at that time. Students in our residential college (dorm) were invited to a special screening of The Dark Crystal at a local movie theatre, and then to a Master's Tea (party/reception) afterward. Jim did a Q&A in the theatre after the screening, and then mingled at the Tea. He was very soft-spoken and seemingly a bit shy, but also very personable and kind. He came across as a tall, skinny, slightly reserved Santa Claus. The only celebrity visit to our campus to surpass that experience was Fred Rogers. Mr. Rogers sat on a chair with his back to the wall of a dorm common room, and he bade us all, hundreds of us, sit on the floor in a semi-circle around him. It was the most natural thing to do, as he spoke to us so calmly, so naturally, speaking to us as children, not condescendingly, but as children who approach the world with curiosity, and openness, and wonder, and joy.

    • @darthvadersith514
      @darthvadersith514 10 місяців тому +3

      Reading what you said about Mr. Rogers nearly brought a tear to my eye. God I miss him. The world needs him more than ever now. 😢

  • @andrewcoulthard-clark
    @andrewcoulthard-clark Рік тому +45

    I got to see her at a Convention in Queensland, Australia and I asked her what it was like to work with David Bowie and Jim Henson. She seemed relieved to be asked about something other than Star Trek. FYI, she was lovely, and the fans had a great time, thanks Gates!

  • @mrquirky3626
    @mrquirky3626 Рік тому +50

    Wow, I had no idea about her Jim Henson work. Just looked it up, she worked on both 'Labyrinth' and 'Muppets Take Manhattan' but used a different name (Cheryl McFadden) on the credits to keep it separate from her acting work.

    • @skidawg22
      @skidawg22 Рік тому +12

      Her full legal name is Cheryl Gates McFadden. She uses Gates for her acting work and Cheryl for choreography work.

    • @Michaelsmercedes
      @Michaelsmercedes Рік тому

      If im not mistaken she was one of the spiders on roller skates in the dark crystal

    • @DenkyManner
      @DenkyManner Рік тому +2

      She's in the making of documentary for Labyrinth. I remember being so surprised to see her, had no idea of that side of her

    • @wallywest2360
      @wallywest2360 11 місяців тому +1

      There are people who still will insist that Gates has a twin sister, Cheryl, that did all the choreography and behind the camera stuff.

  • @john.premose
    @john.premose Рік тому +23

    I really love that high brow sort of acting and performance. I could always tell there was something special about her as Dr Crusher. The main time you could tell was when she taught Data to dance but also in the later episodes she became the sort of director of amateur plays on the ship. You could tell she was very much in that theatre world.

    • @craigstevenprentice4426
      @craigstevenprentice4426 Рік тому +3

      When she danced with Data to the lush "Isn't It Romantic" , I was floored ! I still have the whole dance routine music on real tape . I LOVE IT !

    • @Michaelsmercedes
      @Michaelsmercedes Рік тому +1

      Not my favorite episodes but she was very much in control and performed at an even higher level than normal

  • @sleepinglionarchives
    @sleepinglionarchives 11 місяців тому +4

    I remember watching Labyrinth again after STTNG began airing and was surprised to see her name in the credits (in regards to dance)

  • @b.chuchlucious5471
    @b.chuchlucious5471 Рік тому +27

    She's a class act and took the high road, not the low hanging bait.

    • @moe47988
      @moe47988 Рік тому +5

      it sounds like she’s the type of person that creates drama wherever she goes.

    • @Michaelsmercedes
      @Michaelsmercedes Рік тому +2

      ​@@moe47988agreed. Everything tastes so bitter. Not that I can blame her.

    • @the21stcenturydavincibegin35
      @the21stcenturydavincibegin35 Рік тому

      @@Michaelsmercedes If you're an actor, you would know the ups and downs.

    • @jerbear7952
      @jerbear7952 Рік тому +1

      @@the21stcenturydavincibegin35 i dont have to be an actor to know I wouldn't want any part of it. I love the art but can't fathom how anyone makes it out normal in any sense. At least in the states.

  • @Spike-ck5tj
    @Spike-ck5tj Рік тому +6

    That was interesting as I had no idea she had done anything but acting BUT she never answered the question "what was it like working with Jim Henson?"

    • @Michaelsmercedes
      @Michaelsmercedes Рік тому +8

      She absolutely answered it. You just have to read between the lines.

    • @StoneSlumber
      @StoneSlumber 11 місяців тому

      because 4 other questions are always asked before someone has the chance to answer the first question...(i know, I'm guilty of it myself..)

    • @glenwaldrop8166
      @glenwaldrop8166 11 місяців тому

      She said he just let people 'handle it' or something when they didn't get along.
      She's a super lefty, safe spaces and all that, she can't handle people that don't need big brother handling everything for them.

  • @MrBlackbass59
    @MrBlackbass59 11 місяців тому +2

    I clicked on this video just to see Gates. She’s beautiful!

  • @terrylong8894
    @terrylong8894 Рік тому +10

    So we’re not going to talk about Dr. Crusher is friends with Yoda?

  • @graymcgoldrick8388
    @graymcgoldrick8388 5 місяців тому +1

    I love to here her telling about her past and other jobs with teaching and everything else she has done over the years without any reference to Start Trek

  • @danieloutloud9151
    @danieloutloud9151 Рік тому

    Have never seen or heard of the Mad Hatter bit or the movie it was in so , couldn't glom onto that experience she had . I do remember her doing a series for late night where she rode in a car with a small person (David Rappaport ,....Time Bandits , The Wizard ) in very snazzy shots to promote music videos , ( called "Beyond The Groove" 1990 ) .

  • @Rickkolchak
    @Rickkolchak Рік тому +1

    This is fantastic

  • @macsnafu
    @macsnafu 11 місяців тому +3

    Who *doesn't* love Kermit? He's a fictional character, a wonderful character. Maybe he was alternative persona for Jim Henson, but I don't know anything about that. I'm just sitting here drinking my tea.

  • @sandroabate
    @sandroabate Рік тому +1

    I love Dreamchild. It was such a good movie.

    • @treesny
      @treesny 11 місяців тому +1

      I agree completely. Ian Holm brilliant, best role Coral Browne ever had -- very touching --, and of course a script by the great Dennis Potter. What a surprise to learn that Gates McFadden was involved in directing the fantasy sequences with the Henson puppet creations.

  • @somarriba333
    @somarriba333 Місяць тому

    I just watched a behind the scenes clip of her in "Labyrinth" and she looked amazing in it. To bad it wasn't her genre because it looked like she excelled at it. I'm glad she was Dr. Beverly Crusher but now I wonder what other things she could have done behind the scenes.

  • @lowsee
    @lowsee Рік тому +6

    Now I feel bad that I gushed to her about Labyrinth when I met her.

    • @creativeguy1138
      @creativeguy1138 Рік тому +4

      You shouldn't. Your appreciation of a film she worked on is wonderful of you, no matter her experience on the project.

    • @alphanerd7221
      @alphanerd7221 Рік тому +5

      The worse your experience making art the better it is hearing that it as worth while.

  • @danielroden9424
    @danielroden9424 Рік тому +17

    so she didnt really say if she liked *him*. she didnt like that process/role/anamatronic stuff but what about henson?

    • @momokomiyafuji396
      @momokomiyafuji396 Рік тому +7

      It is called not speaking i’ll of the dead. Although he may have projected a gentle, aww shucks image, I understand he could be pretty intense. Even a bit cruel sometimes. Jim Henson was a human being. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • @Sirharryflash82
      @Sirharryflash82 Рік тому +6

      It was a passive-aggressive way of showing unfavorable judgment by saying nothing at all.

    • @kelaarin
      @kelaarin Рік тому +6

      Like many introverts, his means of expressing himself was through his creations. Watch some of his Johnny Carson interviews - he's much more comfortable interacting with other people as Kermit than as himself.

    • @Michaelsmercedes
      @Michaelsmercedes Рік тому +4

      When someone loves working with a legend they will gush about it immediately. "Oh I looooved Jim". Gates: "I liked Kermit"

    • @thatguy6054
      @thatguy6054 Рік тому +5

      @@Michaelsmercedes No. she said she loved Kermit.
      Everybody who worked with Jim says Kermit was the personification of one aspect of Jim's personality. You can love an individual without liking how they do everything they do.

  • @randywarren7101
    @randywarren7101 11 місяців тому +3

    I would have liked her being in the movie The Hunt For Red October more if she had more than the few minutes.

  • @rickseiden1
    @rickseiden1 Рік тому +2

    When Gates (credited as Cheryl) did Labyrinth (was that what this was about?) did she get to work with David Bowie at all, and if so, what was he like?

  • @gcvrsa
    @gcvrsa 11 місяців тому

    Cloud Nine really is an incredible play, and if you haven't seen it, you should.

  • @roymclean3554
    @roymclean3554 Рік тому +1

    interesting how one has a perspective from the outside and the actual internal machinations are very different. a question about Labyrinth ends up being a brief but detailed look at dream child... and a laissez-faire director creating a competitive environment accidentally... she is so intelligent and careful with her words...

  • @DeconvertedMan
    @DeconvertedMan 11 місяців тому +1

    YAY Gates! :D

  • @softdreams1776
    @softdreams1776 11 місяців тому +1

    ^_^ oh my goodness im glade shes ok after the skiing accident i had no idea :S

  • @BishopWalters12
    @BishopWalters12 Рік тому +17

    That was a little bit of a Politician answer, I guess she didn't like Jim Henson as a person on top of everything else.

    • @Sirharryflash82
      @Sirharryflash82 Рік тому +5

      Yup, I would say that is pretty much the gist of it.

    • @WoefulMinion
      @WoefulMinion Рік тому +5

      It doesn't sound as though it was Jim Henson as a person so much as his style of working. She doesn't strike me as someone who would enjoy the muppets.

    • @brianfergus839
      @brianfergus839 Рік тому +6

      @@WoefulMinion 0:37 “Kermit is very special to me” seems to indicate otherwise.

    • @WoefulMinion
      @WoefulMinion Рік тому +2

      @@brianfergus839 You're right. I meant to say, "enjoy working with" the muppets. Kermit is special to most people. 🙂

    • @the21stcenturydavincibegin35
      @the21stcenturydavincibegin35 Рік тому +5

      Henson worked with a schedule and I''m sure, for what he did, a very tight budget. That comes with a lot of pressure, and even though he was 'famous' he was also a shy and introverted person (which makes dealing with conflict in an organization difficult at best.)

  • @jackknopf5974
    @jackknopf5974 Рік тому +7

    I will forever have a crush on Beverly Crusher.

    • @ticler
      @ticler Рік тому

      And I will forever have the urge to curb stomp wesley crusher

    • @Michaelsmercedes
      @Michaelsmercedes Рік тому

      Unless your an irish ghost she's not going to return your calls. Move on with your life man. There must be plenty of red haired, single mom, starfleet doctors running around. It's hard for them to date, you might get lucky.

    • @the21stcenturydavincibegin35
      @the21stcenturydavincibegin35 Рік тому

      And in her seventies, she's still gorgeous. (And no longer a red head.)

    • @illyth63
      @illyth63 11 місяців тому

      @@Michaelsmercedes *Scottish* ghost.

  • @deanbarnette1602
    @deanbarnette1602 11 місяців тому

    💚💚💚💚💚💚💚

  • @mililaniman
    @mililaniman 11 місяців тому

    She still looks beautiful. She had lovely red hair when she was younger.

  • @allanfifield8256
    @allanfifield8256 Рік тому +3

    She (mostly) dodged the question. Seem like a case of "If you can't say anything good, don't say anything at all.

  • @akafuguvids
    @akafuguvids Рік тому +1

    hawt!

  • @charliepiland3285
    @charliepiland3285 Рік тому +13

    Clip title & content don’t match- she never says anything substantive about her option of Henson…

    • @shubinternet
      @shubinternet Рік тому +1

      I disagree. I think she answered that question by reframing it and answering the question she wanted to get. Which is a way of answering the question by not answering the question. Politicians do this all the time.
      I think she was being more graceful about it than most politicians are, but the process was the same.

    • @Sirharryflash82
      @Sirharryflash82 Рік тому +2

      ​@@shubinternet disagree, I think her omission wasn't showing grace, rather than showing her judgment by passive-aggressiveness.

    • @williamjansen1
      @williamjansen1 Рік тому +2

      I think she never really got to know Henson as anything other than a boss, so she chose not to judge him based on that, but she clearly wasn't a fan of that (which is fine, a boss doesn't have to be nice, as long as he/she isn't actively harming anyone, being mean, belittling others or some such).

    • @randomspiel
      @randomspiel Рік тому +2

      @@Sirharryflash82 You want her to just outright say she didn't like working with him, or to spin some fantasy that he was a joy to work with bc that's what you want her to say? Jesus.

  • @christophermoshier
    @christophermoshier Рік тому +3

    I find the entire show very boring. With that said - I find the shorts very well done. It hands me new and good information. I'd much rather watch a bunch of "Inside of You" clips than the entire show.

  • @monkeywrench4169
    @monkeywrench4169 Рік тому +2

    Her name makes her sound like a throw away character from a Family Guy joke.

    • @skidawg22
      @skidawg22 Рік тому

      She did Family Guy, along with the rest of the TNG cast.

  • @retroelectrical
    @retroelectrical Рік тому +11

    Hey, ho, clickbait vid-e-oooo! She doesn't talk about Jim at all. She just worked with Henson and Co. while she was sidelined due to a ski accident.

  • @Madagon367
    @Madagon367 Рік тому +2

    We can all come up with our own idea what working in 'Beirut' might look like. She chose not to talk bad about the dead. It is what it is.

    • @Valkonnen
      @Valkonnen Рік тому

      He WAS a Christian Scientist, and that may have had a lot to do with it. I mean, the very reason why he died is that his religion refuses medical treatment and he had a lung infection, which one shot of penicillin would have taken care of . It's a shame that religion does this to people...

  • @PianoUniverse
    @PianoUniverse Рік тому +17

    She is aging like a fine wine.

    • @arthurleegis1333
      @arthurleegis1333 Рік тому +3

      And not Romulan Ale?

    • @jamiecashes
      @jamiecashes Рік тому +3

      Too much plastic surgery honestly

    • @MrJabez89
      @MrJabez89 Рік тому +1

      @@jamiecashes WAY too much. She looks like something from The Dark Crystal

    • @alphanerd7221
      @alphanerd7221 Рік тому

      Turned to vinegar.

  • @jatsherrod
    @jatsherrod Рік тому +1

    I thought Frank OZ did YODA?

  • @Electrobilia
    @Electrobilia Рік тому +1

    Great guests. But the host over reacts as standard.

  • @richardthompson6366
    @richardthompson6366 11 місяців тому +1

    Came here for Henson, was disappointed.

  • @Subangelis
    @Subangelis 11 місяців тому

    Stalker, not stocker

  • @Shinzon23
    @Shinzon23 11 місяців тому +1

    Jim Henson died from easily treatable pneumonia, didn't he?

    • @brockpifer9929
      @brockpifer9929 8 місяців тому

      Well when he came to the hospital some hours prior and then when he died, the doctors said that he came in to late and that if he would’ve came sooner they could’ve saved him. Jim never really liked going to doctors cause of him being raised on Christian science, as you know people who do Christian science only pray to overcome diseases and injuries and hardly ever or really never seek medical attention and never take medicines, pills, prescriptions, etc

  • @cinemasage
    @cinemasage 11 місяців тому

    She's making it sound like she was harassed by him (and I sincerely hope not).

  • @cromwelljones53
    @cromwelljones53 11 місяців тому

    four minutes answering a question abut Jim Henson, was there a single word about actually working with Jim Henson?

  • @johnmccall5576
    @johnmccall5576 Рік тому +2

    Not happy on Star Trek, not happen with Henson ... eventually maybe it is just you at some point.

  • @bigchief5023
    @bigchief5023 11 місяців тому

    Clear example of adults still living as children.

  • @chapterhawk
    @chapterhawk 11 місяців тому +1

    I love her work and respect her craft. But she definitely comes off as pretty full of herself here. I'm sure it comes with the territory of being in showbiz. But, I'm pretty disappointed to be honest.

  • @northernbohemianrealist1412
    @northernbohemianrealist1412 11 місяців тому

    This chick had to be 60 when she was rightly fired from Star Trek more than thirty years ago. I can't believe that she is still alive.

  • @BillShartner
    @BillShartner 4 місяці тому

    Be sure not to ask about all the shit she's done to her face...

  • @MrJabez89
    @MrJabez89 Рік тому +2

    She looks like a Jim Henson creation

  • @patlambert-tr7gq
    @patlambert-tr7gq Рік тому +3

    Now, I know why she seemed to overreact as Beverly in SNG. She was trying to impose her character onto the scene

  • @williechops213
    @williechops213 Рік тому +8

    Lady seems full of herself

    • @TheBaconWizard
      @TheBaconWizard Рік тому +5

      You are projecting.

    • @mem1701movies
      @mem1701movies Рік тому +4

      @esportsacademy8749I am starting to see Maurice Hurley’s POV

    • @momokomiyafuji396
      @momokomiyafuji396 Рік тому +8

      I see the incel squad is here in full force 😑

    • @Valkonnen
      @Valkonnen Рік тому +9

      @esportsacademy8749 I've worked in film for 35 years and actors get shuffled around and treated like cattle. A a certain point, around middle age , you realize that it doesn't have to be that way, and you make demands which would seem "Difficult" to a person like you. I remember early in my career as a makeup artist, being paid a lot of money and preparing for months. I get to the location, and they tell me that the only place to do the makeup is in a van, where it is nearly impossible to maneuver and move around the actor, like with a makeup chair. I dealt with it...Later in my career, I saw that kind of thing happening a lot, so eventually I began to speak up in a reasonable manner. Once I went to a location and we were supposed to go to a motel. The Motel we pulled up to , had thugs and Hookers fighting in front and was obviously a dangerous place. So I reasonably said . "You hired me to build these items for your film, and you want me to stay in a motel where we are sure to be robbed?" . They switched to a much better hotel and the crew loved me for saying something. See, how something like that can easily be seen as "Unreasonable" when it actually was not?

    • @Sirharryflash82
      @Sirharryflash82 Рік тому +3

      ​@@momokomiyafuji396So are the simps.

  • @ericblair1173
    @ericblair1173 11 місяців тому

    Hang on! ... Wasn't this chic on Star Trek?