0:24 i love elpenor's "what" here, because one can assume he's concerned that perimedes is so quick to kill a baby, but the funnier explanation is that he's confused about what the hell "yeet" means
When i first heard this line off context I thought it was Neo saying that actually, since in the original story it's Neo who *actually* yeets baby Astyanax off the wall, that'd be a cool reference to that since they changed it to Odysseus doing it
Ok fun fact of the day by someone who hasn’t read the odyssey So Elpenor got buried after the underworld saga right? So someone once told me that because of the fact that perimedes and the remaining crew obviously didn’t get buried after thunder bringer means that the depressed gay boys would not in fact be together in the afterlife. Feel free to fact check me on this though this is just something I heard Also also if ody left peri on the island he would have been the only the other survivor
@@Dawn_the_dragon in the odyssey he gets buried by odysseus. but odysseus doesn't go back to circe's island in Epic so we don't actually know what happens to him
In my mind i always have these two in the background lol. I also have Elpenor as the chorus leader of the dead crewmates in "The Underworld" much like how Eurylochus is the chorus leader of the alive crew.
I always thought this. But I think nobody gets that the first Perimedes song comes AFTER the Cope With That. Cope With That takes place on the ORIGINAL Lotus island on the Odyssey, where Ody's crewmates got high on Lotus and had to be forced out the island, at least I presume. But in the Perimedes yeet song, he metions that 72 crewmates are already dead, and the first time they died was in the Polyphemus cave, making it happen during the Ocean Saga. So, yeah.
Honestly I would have loved a Permides/Elpenor saga (btw definitely a ship) or at least a song because they're just another crewmate in the eyes of Odysseus not a second in command or close friend, so it is good to hear from the crew (especially when Perimedes appears in the Thunder saga) you hear where they're coming from. But I do understand it makes for a more cohesive narrative without them
@@AltAccount-cb7sh ah, the joys of being a multishipper. I’m such an OdyPoli shipper too! And OdyPoliPen :D, AND whatever the ship name is for Poly/Eury, AND Poly crew, AND OdyDio, AND-
@@ExtraChillFurry Mr. Jimbo Bimbo has confirmed after epic he plans to make a cut saga, he went on to say that he’s thinking which songs would be in the saga, and if they’d be sung by character VAs or just the demo versions. It’s surely happening, but the decisions surrounding it are still being made.
I'll be honest I think Elpenor and Perimedes is what Epic is missing. I came out of the Thunder Saga more bitter towards Eurylochus than sad about the sacrifice Odysseus had to make. The only reason we have to care about the crew is Eurylochus; who, due to his nature as an eventual antagonist, causes a difficulty in connecting with the crew for the audience. Perimedes and Eurylochus in contrast are so grounded, they're not in constant battle with our only point of reference, they're so human in a plot focused on the mythical. I would honestly be willing to sacrifice a live adaptation of Epic in exchange for a Perimedes and Elpenor Saga and I say that with no sense of dishonesty.
@@turbopugs2593 yes! I love the focus on the gods, but I’d also have loved it too if we could have more on the crew. Polites and Eury were our only link, and Polites died early, and Eury was making bad decisions, so we don’t really get much more of the crew except for that.
I’m someone who loves Eurylochus and connects with the crew fully (Monster was about Ody accepting that he’s becoming a worse person so I think that humanizes the crew based on what Ody does to Eury with the torches), and I also agree that I’d love to see Perimedes and Elpenor as fleshed out characters. They seem pretty interesting from these snippets and one thing I don’t like is the crew outside of Eury feeling like one big monolith with all the same thoughts, having these two would make that connection stronger- and that moment where Peri stabs Ody would be even crazier
WHAT?! I NEVER KNEW ABOUT THE SECOND SOMG THSTS SO GAY- Also, I recommend putting in the “if there was anything you’d change about epic” perimedes clip in
Elpenor: "Maybe we should leave him?.." Ody: "'mAyBe We ShOuLd LeAvE hIm-' Maybe you should stfu and drag his high ass to the ship." Several sagas later: Perimedes: *stabs Ody in the back... literally* "How are we supposed to trust you now?" Yeah, should've just let the sleeping -dogs- Perimedes lie, Ody.
Yup, was originally gonna be in Underworld but Jorge felt it was too humorous and took away from the emotional impact so he scrapped it - which is hilarious on its own since Elpenor's whole thing is that people forget about him and his death 😅He's still included in the death count, though! :D
@ I genuinely think having someone’s death be entirely forgotten about is more impactful than just all the souls at once- and also, “but what do you care? so many deaths happen under your reign” THE BITTERNESS IS FDNCNDMDMD
@@DilutedH2SO4 Elpenor would snuggle him from whichever side, though if he’s the ‘little spoon’ one night he’d turn over to hug Peri until they both fall asleep. I ship them so hard, they’re my babies now.
So for anyone wondering I believe the chronological order for the would be: “Cope with that” being on the lotus eaters island Peremidis: being after cyclops but before ruthlessness The ballad of elpenor: Underworld saga
@@SEBithehiper945 what confuses me about that is the line “72 of our dudes are now lost” because nobody died in Troy, and from what I know, nobody else died until cyclops
@@jefftheevilpotato ismarus and unhand him which were cut would've mentioned a raid on ismarus, where 6 men of each fleet would die. Also Perimedes is his name, and the song's name is Comfort Zone.
@@SEBithehiper945 alright, thanks for this. I wasn’t aware of the deaths in those two, but I did know Perimedes’ name, I just had a typo in the main comment. Also Jorge just calls this “a song from the guy who stabbed Odysseus” or something along those lines, “Comfort Zone” is a name given to it by the people, just taking a repeated lyric.
I'm unsure if it's irony or hypocrisy when someone who claims to be heartless and gives no fucks about others suddenly expects people to care about his own death. What's even more striking is his ability to recognize mental health struggles in others. Not a dig, just make it make sense.
what if the sirens come back and pretend to be elpenor’s shade to convince ody whether he knows it’s absurd for a shade to be there or not since ody didn’t actually notice elp’s death? i mean sure elp’s part of epic was cut, but jorge also said the sirens were cut, and that was very rude of him. at the very least the siren’s might “sing another verse” as stated by athena in god games.
Being serious, probably they're yes a couple, you can hear when Elpenor describes Perimedes, the motifs of Penelope. It's a huge signal to the love between them
Ill be the first to say im not a shipper of the two because of cope with that. Elpenor doesnt say "maybe we should stay here". He says "maybe we should leave him" and from what i know of narcotic drugs, in my minds eye, perimedes doesnt look like a peaceful sleeping baby, he looks like a junkie on magical drugs. Elpenor at best thinks he deserves rest. A lover would bring him what he needs, not what he wants.
0:24 i love elpenor's "what" here, because one can assume he's concerned that perimedes is so quick to kill a baby, but the funnier explanation is that he's confused about what the hell "yeet" means
Headcannon excepted
When i first heard this line off context I thought it was Neo saying that actually, since in the original story it's Neo who *actually* yeets baby Astyanax off the wall, that'd be a cool reference to that since they changed it to Odysseus doing it
"I don't love anybody that's my power"
The entire fandom: Haha. Elpenor c'mere real quick
Elpenor:”hey Peri!”
Peri:”oh uh-shoot..-h-hey Elpenor!”*looks back and forth aggressively*
The entire fandom: Haha, -angst, mourning, depression- funi gay men go brrr! (this is me, I'm the fandom, I love them sm)
everyone in Greece is gay and these 2 are no exception.
@@L-ghtlessSky Exactly. These two almost out Patroclus and Achilles! Though I don't know how many can truly outgay them
when elpenor is describing perimedes you can hear the Penelope motif on the string instrument. i suddenly smell fruit
Same here
Lotus fruit?
hear me out, Perimedies and Elpenor were cabinmates
:O
Maybe even friends…
lol sure
Oh my god they were cabinmates…
Guys being dudes
Just the bestest of bros who shared a bed
The saddest thing is if Odysseus had left him on that island then he would have been the only other survivor.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY DO YOU DO THIS
apologize 😭
JEEZ IS RIGJT. APOLOGISE. RN.
Ok but this way they get to chill together forever in the underworld (your welcome)
I still don't understand where this song would happen... Which island was that?
I've never read Homer's Oddesy, so finding out someone did die during the Circe Saga is absolutely wild to me.
Odyssey*
Imagine reading the odyssey and STILL being like: Hold up!💀
If you read the Odyssey, you would know about that guy because he makes Odysseus go back to bury him after the Underworld
Ok fun fact of the day by someone who hasn’t read the odyssey
So Elpenor got buried after the underworld saga right? So someone once told me that because of the fact that perimedes and the remaining crew obviously didn’t get buried after thunder bringer means that the depressed gay boys would not in fact be together in the afterlife. Feel free to fact check me on this though this is just something I heard
Also also if ody left peri on the island he would have been the only the other survivor
@@Dawn_the_dragon in the odyssey he gets buried by odysseus. but odysseus doesn't go back to circe's island in Epic so we don't actually know what happens to him
Okay, but I can't be the only one feinding for a full length Perimedes song
Truly I need the man who's power is not loving anyone to get his bank. (Though at least the actual voice actor I think is Antinous)
SAME
Perrymeedees and Elpeenore were DEFINITELY smooching 😢😂
History will say their best friends 🤷🏽♀️😔
Real
2 bros sittin in a hot tub ✨
They were cabin mates!!
In my mind i always have these two in the background lol.
I also have Elpenor as the chorus leader of the dead crewmates in "The Underworld" much like how Eurylochus is the chorus leader of the alive crew.
I imagine that for Elpenor, too! I think he's the first shade Odysseus meets in the original books, so that would be a good nod to that.
I always thought this. But I think nobody gets that the first Perimedes song comes AFTER the Cope With That. Cope With That takes place on the ORIGINAL Lotus island on the Odyssey, where Ody's crewmates got high on Lotus and had to be forced out the island, at least I presume. But in the Perimedes yeet song, he metions that 72 crewmates are already dead, and the first time they died was in the Polyphemus cave, making it happen during the Ocean Saga. So, yeah.
@@twoetwo The 72 man died in Ismarus which was in another cut song the deaths aren’t necessarily mentioned but they happen in the Odyssey
@@BigEpicGuy69 I've always assumed that the Cyclops took the Ismarus kill count since the Ismarus didn't appear.
@@turtleninja16tn66btw listen to Unhand Him and Ismarus, these cut songs talk about ismarus.
@@BigEpicGuy69 so we could had the Ismaruius Saga, The Lotus Easters Saga and the Elpenor Cut in The Underworld Saga.
Dude I literally thought the lyrics where “I’m my own confidant I’m my own confidant” cause he didn’t need anyone else
0:20 Perimedes: Oh please. Gimme that baby, and I'd yeet it off a tower.
Me and all Epic fans:
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
ACCURATE LOL
Elpenor:😨😰”we’re getting you therapy.”
When I heard that line I screamed "OH MY GOSH, HE'S JUST LIKE ME FR!!!!!!!!!!!!"
0:00 - “Comfort Zone” (Unofficial name)
0:51 - Cope With That
2:16 - The Underworld (Cut Section)
After the musical is done there might be a chance for a cut songs saga, so says Jorgie Porgie.
It’s confirmed man
The 1st minute is Jorge dancing like a rapper in a y2K era music video. So adorable
Honestly I would have loved a Permides/Elpenor saga (btw definitely a ship) or at least a song because they're just another crewmate in the eyes of Odysseus not a second in command or close friend, so it is good to hear from the crew (especially when Perimedes appears in the Thunder saga) you hear where they're coming from. But I do understand it makes for a more cohesive narrative without them
Thank you so much! I love Perimedes and Elpenor, they’d have been such a cute duo! (Add Polites and you could make a very nice throuple imo lmao)
No because Polities is for Ody only and you can't convince me otherwise. They were def boyfriends
@@AltAccount-cb7sh ah, the joys of being a multishipper. I’m such an OdyPoli shipper too! And OdyPoliPen :D, AND whatever the ship name is for Poly/Eury, AND Poly crew, AND OdyDio, AND-
And the legend still has space to grow, let's goooo, full speed ahead!
This is beautiful, and really, really sad, somehow. Thank you for putting it together!
Hear me out, after epic is finished there's a cut songs album
lol it’s already been confirmed
I hope there’s a bonus Telemachus’s birthday parody
@@That_one_introvert146 IT'S BEEN WHAT???
@@ExtraChillFurry Mr. Jimbo Bimbo has confirmed after epic he plans to make a cut saga, he went on to say that he’s thinking which songs would be in the saga, and if they’d be sung by character VAs or just the demo versions.
It’s surely happening, but the decisions surrounding it are still being made.
@@That_one_introvert146 ty :D
I'll be honest I think Elpenor and Perimedes is what Epic is missing. I came out of the Thunder Saga more bitter towards Eurylochus than sad about the sacrifice Odysseus had to make. The only reason we have to care about the crew is Eurylochus; who, due to his nature as an eventual antagonist, causes a difficulty in connecting with the crew for the audience. Perimedes and Eurylochus in contrast are so grounded, they're not in constant battle with our only point of reference, they're so human in a plot focused on the mythical. I would honestly be willing to sacrifice a live adaptation of Epic in exchange for a Perimedes and Elpenor Saga and I say that with no sense of dishonesty.
If the cut saga is released, I'd really love to hear the subplot of Elpenor and Perimedes
@@turbopugs2593 yes! I love the focus on the gods, but I’d also have loved it too if we could have more on the crew. Polites and Eury were our only link, and Polites died early, and Eury was making bad decisions, so we don’t really get much more of the crew except for that.
I honestly just want Elpenor as just one of those characters that’s there for the laughs but has a serious moment.
I’m someone who loves Eurylochus and connects with the crew fully (Monster was about Ody accepting that he’s becoming a worse person so I think that humanizes the crew based on what Ody does to Eury with the torches), and I also agree that I’d love to see Perimedes and Elpenor as fleshed out characters. They seem pretty interesting from these snippets and one thing I don’t like is the crew outside of Eury feeling like one big monolith with all the same thoughts, having these two would make that connection stronger- and that moment where Peri stabs Ody would be even crazier
@@willew64 FR, we need that!! It's what epic needs tbh
WHAT?! I NEVER KNEW ABOUT THE SECOND SOMG THSTS SO GAY-
Also, I recommend putting in the “if there was anything you’d change about epic” perimedes clip in
The second song was released today on Jorge’s UA-cam channel
@@Sapphiregemsasastars yup found it now but thanks
We need more cut songs, like actually they were solid songs they just needed some work 😄
They were solid songs, but Jorge said sometimes they were such bops that they got in the way of the story 💀
Oh well lol, Epic and Hamilton on top 👊🏻
I can't wait for the "Cut song" Saga
@@frantexmor8681 sameeeee 🤪
TELEMACHUS’ CUT SONG ESPECIALLY
They are *definitely* gay for each other and no one can convince me otherwise
Elpenor: "Maybe we should leave him?.."
Ody: "'mAyBe We ShOuLd LeAvE hIm-' Maybe you should stfu and drag his high ass to the ship."
Several sagas later:
Perimedes: *stabs Ody in the back... literally* "How are we supposed to trust you now?"
Yeah, should've just let the sleeping -dogs- Perimedes lie, Ody.
Oh I didn' know it was him
Elpenor: and there’s no way I’ll get bruised
Me: booze?
Well we all know that Perimedies And Elepenor were Cabin Mates
Also known as matelotage :'D
oh my god they were cabin mates
This is very important to me.
Odysseus just went full on Hamilton in ‘Cope with that’ lol
Okay tell me I'm wrong, but this is gonna be the fan favourite ship, the OTP of Epic in all the fanfics on AO3
Like
Tell me I'm wrong
SO THATS WHERE THE MONSTER RIFF CAME FROM!
honestly who doesn’t ship these two they’re too adorable to not ship them
Please tell me I'm not the only one who ships elpenor x perimedes
you’re not the only one ^^
ME TOOOOOOO 🤍🤍🤍
Perenor is canon
Yessir brudur
@@ДарьяВытнова-э6бwait….. ITS CANON
Coming back here for comfort after the wisdom saga 😢
It's not my job to make him happy! It's my job to bring him home!
I love this!
Hearing the melody for Odysseus' Event Horizon song "Monster" in such an upbeat, silly song like "Cope With That" gave me a curious feeling.
PERFECTION. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS
After Elpenor’s “so many people died under your reign” i hear the very start of “all i hear are screams” from the underworld. a cut part, perhaps?
Yup, was originally gonna be in Underworld but Jorge felt it was too humorous and took away from the emotional impact so he scrapped it - which is hilarious on its own since Elpenor's whole thing is that people forget about him and his death 😅He's still included in the death count, though! :D
@ I genuinely think having someone’s death be entirely forgotten about is more impactful than just all the souls at once- and also, “but what do you care? so many deaths happen under your reign” THE BITTERNESS IS FDNCNDMDMD
Thank you. I knew someone would have already edit this in order.
They are literally so adorable 😭
The question is who is the big spoon
@@DilutedH2SO4 Elpenor would snuggle him from whichever side, though if he’s the ‘little spoon’ one night he’d turn over to hug Peri until they both fall asleep.
I ship them so hard, they’re my babies now.
me when im singing about my homie and the musical motif of my captain's wife starts playing (platonically)
Wow! The Perrymeedees song is definitely a certified bop! 😅
528 perimedes
Yo Captains gone soft 72 of our dudes are now lost✨🗣️🔥
@@Sonic_Mario_fan06 He hasn't been the same since Troy 🤨
@@misha-water3232I heard he had to kill an 😈👶👦..
@@Oktopus549oh please, gimme dat baby and I’ll yeet it off a tower😊
What
So for anyone wondering I believe the chronological order for the would be:
“Cope with that” being on the lotus eaters island
Peremidis: being after cyclops but before ruthlessness
The ballad of elpenor:
Underworld saga
comfort zone is between the raid of ismarus (cut) and lotus eaters
@@SEBithehiper945 what confuses me about that is the line “72 of our dudes are now lost” because nobody died in Troy, and from what I know, nobody else died until cyclops
@@jefftheevilpotato ismarus and unhand him which were cut would've mentioned a raid on ismarus, where 6 men of each fleet would die. Also Perimedes is his name, and the song's name is Comfort Zone.
@@SEBithehiper945 alright, thanks for this. I wasn’t aware of the deaths in those two, but I did know Perimedes’ name, I just had a typo in the main comment. Also Jorge just calls this “a song from the guy who stabbed Odysseus” or something along those lines, “Comfort Zone” is a name given to it by the people, just taking a repeated lyric.
@@jefftheevilpotato We can presume it is called Comfort Zone because of the lyrics.
Thank you for this!
I'm unsure if it's irony or hypocrisy when someone who claims to be heartless and gives no fucks about others suddenly expects people to care about his own death. What's even more striking is his ability to recognize mental health struggles in others. Not a dig, just make it make sense.
The heartless one is Perimedes to be fair
@@willew64 It's still ironic. He ended up with depression
@@Lunaris3-in-1 True
@@Lunaris3-in-1 Well not really ironic since the whole heartless act seems to be a symptom of it, it's really sad 😅
Best video hands down
If Perimedes was left with the lotus eaters, he would be the only other survivor
Me and my friend alreay decided the name for this ship (elPENor x perImedeS) so you guys don't have to :)
what if the sirens come back and pretend to be elpenor’s shade to convince ody whether he knows it’s absurd for a shade to be there or not since ody didn’t actually notice elp’s death? i mean sure elp’s part of epic was cut, but jorge also said the sirens were cut, and that was very rude of him. at the very least the siren’s might “sing another verse” as stated by athena in god games.
Now that the offical concept album is complete, i wouldnt mind if we got like a scrapped song album like some other musicals have done
I was wondering when you do this
THANK YOU SIR
Being serious, probably they're yes a couple, you can hear when Elpenor describes Perimedes, the motifs of Penelope. It's a huge signal to the love between them
What about Perimede's short verse from Ismarus?
Which one
The second song kinda sounds like Hamilton x Moana, idk. Love these songs!
Theses are backwards
Ill be the first to say im not a shipper of the two because of cope with that. Elpenor doesnt say "maybe we should stay here". He says "maybe we should leave him" and from what i know of narcotic drugs, in my minds eye, perimedes doesnt look like a peaceful sleeping baby, he looks like a junkie on magical drugs. Elpenor at best thinks he deserves rest. A lover would bring him what he needs, not what he wants.