Couple of years back, found an EM10 Mii at a Pawn shop for a great price, works perfectly and became my EDC camera even though I have all the other formats. Then couple months back, found an EM10 MiiiS for even better price and now together they are my EDC cameras. Awesome feature set, small, light, great for travel, street or what every you need, love them.
I have the em10mk iii & I find it gives you a lot of features and good image quality for the price range. The grip is ok, along with the evf. I use it with the big sharp zoom lens, 14-150, esp. for travel photography
Had a Olympus Om-1, Om- 2n and a Om- 10 in the 70s/ 80s and im off to my local camera shop about 10 miles from where i live to buy this little beauty. So many good reviews about this camera, prefer the black / chrome model ,looks so classy ,sold .
These videos are long and I listen to them while painting and I must say they are ideal for that. Information is very good and it's almost like experiencing it myself listening to you.
Hi Gordon you can set the 'OK' button to enable super control panel for the AP setting. This lets you press OK whilst in silent mode to access the advanced settings. (it's in C1 in Control Settings in the menu options)
So glad you highlighted the ergonomics. The quality feel of Olympus camera's was a major selling point for myself (the dials are hugely satisfying as you said).
I love this camera... sold my Canon 700d and kept my M50, but the EM10 is the one I always go to... so much in a small camera and bought it for 350 euros with the EZ lens
For fast action, I live by the ocean and do a lot of wave portraits. I turn on continuous focus and never had a blurred result. At first I thought I needed to do the successive shorts but it's blazing fast to focus and I know when the wave is breaking.It's so much fun.
@Gordon - on the 16 MP resolution - I agree with you though- the issue I have with the 16 MP sensor in this camera is the fact that it's this old sensor been around for a while. If they used a new 16 MP sensor with better DR/ISO/Color, I wouldn't mind. So it's the fact that it's a 16 MP sensor that's been around for a while the issue to me.
Beautiful retro design.Easily the prettiest mirrorless camera.Complete with fake pentaprism dome. Reminds me of the old OM10 film camera I owned 30 years ago. Mind you, he is holding the camera so close to the screen it looks bigger than it is. It is a LOT smaller than it looks in this video.
I’ve had a 5 mark ii for a while now and love it. I feel no need for this new one, but for anyone considering the 10 mark iii would be very happy with it. MFT cameras take great pictures. They are marvelous for travel.
Gordon and Doug, I'm concerned about the lack of Shutter Mode selectivity. On the Mk2 version we could choose between: • Mechanical Shutter • Anti-Shock Shutter • Electronic Shutter modes, all of which have their appropriate uses. As a professional photographer, I like the Mk3 as it is nicely customisable to behave like a modern-day OM-2. BUT, if I can't select Manual Shutter -- only offered a choice between Anti-Shock and Electronic Shutter modes, then this camera has a serious problem. I've not been able to find any way to choose between the three shutter modes on the Mk3. Is this possible, please? Many thanks for a great video review, Rick
Oops! CORRECTION SELECTING SHUTTER MODES for Mk3 The Manual Shutter and Anti-Shock Shutter ◇ are accessed using the Super Menu *BUTTON*, which is what's located top left of the *camera body*. Once in the Super Menu, you need to move the cursor over the box underneath the Auto Focus Area grid. The camera will now display the currently selected Shutter Mode, in words, at top left, above the Super Menu grid. Clicking OK tells the camera you want to select one of its Mechanical Shutter modes. You're taken to a new screen, where the various Mechanical Shutter Mode options are displayed along the bottom of the screen. These are: Single, Single Anti-Shock ◇, Sequential High, Sequential Low, Sequential Low Anti-Shock ◇, followed by the timer options, 12s, 12s Anti-Shock ◇, 2s, 2s Anti-Shock ◇, 1-3-0.5s Custom, and finally 1-3-0.5s Anti-Shock ◇. Use the cursor keys to select your required Mechanical Shutter mode, and press OK. To access the Electronic Shutter options, you must be in Advanced Program or SCN mode. Rick
Great review, I bought this camera in Japan whilst traveling. Great camera. I am not a great photographer. Great features and way better than a point and shoot or smart phone. Only gripe is the screen is not full 180 swing. So not for vloggers apart from that all good.
Hi, thanks for the review. I found it really useful. I have a question: Do you know how to turn off the main display of the camera? I have only found how to deactivate the view finder. Thanks
Here in December 2019 I got the kit with the EZ lens, SD card, and case for $499 at B&H. Note: in 2019, the Olympus software you can download using your serial # has panorama and focus stacking in the Tools menu. So the camera doesn't do it, but the supplied PC/Mac software will.
Hi Gordon, may I ask you for a short answer to my problem? This autum I will go the Everest Trek. I do want filming first time. To compile my gear for my Needs I would like to know, what you would prefer: Filming with apsc-camera in FHD resolution or filming in UHD with a mft-camera? The videomaterial will be watched on 65 ich UHD TV.
Honestly, if you want a camera for stills and can stomach the Olympus menus, the mark II is a far better camera, if only for the electronic shutter in all PASM modes. Not that the mark III is a bad camera, but it's one that will let you down at some point because most advanced features have been crippled while the mark II is a small E-M5-II missing only the WR and super resolution mode. For instance, the mark III can't use the L-Fn button on pro lens, can't pilot multiple flashes in TTL, won't let you use e-shutter in PASM, and a bunch of other features that have been removed. But it can do 4K which the mark II can not (but the II does 1080@60p, which isn't too shabby all things considered, for shooting a clip from time to time). Slight nitpicking on this otherwise great and comprehensive review : the E-M10 doesn't C-AF in High speed burst mode (8 fps). It keeps the focus of the 1st frame of the burst. It only updates AF in Low speed burst mode (4 fps). To my knowledge, only the E-M1mkII can C-AF in High speed, but only with phase detection compatible lens (I may be wrong here).
Gordon..You guys know m4/3rds cameras...I switched to Fuji and I love their cameras but i have the 12-60...the 9-18mm and the 70-300mm lenses that I used on my Olympus E3...If you wanted to buy a mirrorless body that would support these lenses .( I know you need the adapter)they are substantial..without looking silly in either the Olympus or Panasonic line..and would support their weight .What would it be????
I personally would like 20 megapixels. I am not saying 24 is necessary, but I currently have the Samsung NX210 with a 20.1 megapixel sensor and I appreciate the extra resolution for cropping.
I absolutely agree about the EM5 mark 2. You lose the 4k, but as least you gain the 77mbps ALL-I for 1080p, and the em5 mark 2 is a MUCH better photography camera, in my opinion. I owned the mark 2 and it was a little too small for me. GREAT camera, and I even did a recent review on it on my channel. But the mark 5 is spectacular. I actually cant wait for the EM5 mark 3.
I dont agree, i used the EM5 mark II sinds it came out and now i have the Em10 mark III as a back-up and absolutly love it. The menu is much easyer to navigate and the picture quality is actualy the same and somtimes better do to the new processor. Video however is much better! Oke, the swivel screen is nicer to have but i personaly dont mind.
Depends on your expectations and requirements. I always provide a load of sample images you can download via my reviews at cameralabs.com so grab a couple and see if they're good enough
I like your videos. Sometimes, I skip over them because they're so long, but you two do a good job of including information that cannot be gotten from specs. Other reviewers ramble on for 20 minutes and mostly just reiterate specs. I also like how you mention competing models and their pros and cons. More input from Doug, please. His style and tastes are different than Gordon's which is good. It's one of the reasons this channel can get away with such long episodes. Price Update: At the date of this posting, they're going for $420 w/kit lens, 16 GB card and Olympus bag refurbished on FeeBay. 30:35 Re. EVF magnification: Remember the Nikon F3HP? 0.9x? Why have we lowered our standards to the extent that 0.7x is "high-end"? 37:10 - Interesting question: Does the fact that this camera has an EVF contribute to Gordy's ability to hand-hold at 1/2 sec.? 43:05 - You've got one more subscriber. Don't let me down, bitch! ;-) Oh wait, you've already got 118k now. I can un-subscribe at any time... 46:35 - The Douger admits that he's got to sit back and listen to Gordy. ;-) He only got 5 minutes of talk out of nearly an hour. :-( 49:20 - Amen, brother. 16 MP is not a limitation unless you're a REALLY bad photographer, or your make big prints, or you're too cheap to buy a long enough lens for what you're photographing. 56:19 - The Douger breaks it down properly and concisely. Well-done! Personally, I don't have enough dough to just arbitrarily spend 40% more. This is big bux and it's gonna hafta do. - You guys plugged the HELL out of that book, but missed the opportunity to point out all of the EXCELLENT preset modes in this camera. NO ONE does ART mode like Olympus. Am I right?!
When you do perspective correction in Photoshop you may loose some of the subject or scene that you want. So, it is nice to be able to do it in camera. You may be able to zoom out or step back.
HI GORDON, In a video of two years ago reviewing the EM10 111. You referenced that at Google, you had to use a vending machine, because your subscription followers were below 1000,000. Now of course you are above 129,000. Anyway, your more detailed written review persuaded me to purchase the em10. As someone originally from Brighton, I appreciate the pics of an area I know well, best wishes. David
Ah I see now! Yes, I now have over 100k subs, but Google has sadly withdrawn its creator managers, so I have less opportunity to go an visit them! Ah well!
@@cameralabs Sorry, I overly reacted. I already own an α6000. Instead of trading it in for α6100 or α6400, I purchased a Mk III which has IBIS at such an affordable price! (Also partly because Olympus sold the consumer camera division to JIP.) I wanted the silent shooting on the Mk II. But having 4K makes more sense in 2020. I'll live with the silent mode in AP. At least there is silent continuous shooting. Thanks for the review.
Hey Gordon, sorry if this question is so long!! But do you still recommend in the em10 mark iii, even though the camera is 2 years old? I'm just getting into photography, only ever had a smartphone and have decided I like the Olympus system and lenses. The em1 mk ii is way too expensive for me, and the em5 mk ii is somewhat tight money wise, but I know the em5 mk iii is coming out soon. I'd use it mostly for photography and maybe some home videos/travel videos. I might dabble in making amateur videos with friends for fun to post on UA-cam, but mainly would be used for photos. And I'd start doing jpegs only before I learn how to shoot raw later on down the road. I know the higher end olympus models have really frustrating menus. But do you think I should wait another couple months for them to announce the em5 iii or still go with this, even though it might be replaced by the mk iv in another year?
Enjoy your Channel. Q: I know sports/action is not the specialty of my OEM E-Mk 10iii camera but I use sometimes shooting wildlife and sports. the recommended setting for shooting action on my OEM E-Mk 10iii? Image stabilization on or off. CAF etc... Focus area etc...
Gordon your reviews have helped me tremendously! I’m wanting to purchase my first camera and I can’t choose between the Olympus OMD EM10 Miii vs LUMIX G85 . I was set on the Olympus but I do have a very active 2 year old and I’m wondering if the AF will be able to keep up with him . Do you recommend one over the other ?
I would say the AF on both models is similar and to be honest, may not be good enough once they start really running around. For more confident tracking of moving subjects I'd go for a Sony (like the A6000) or a Canon (like the EOS M50)
I missed few shots in my life based on crappy AF and wish theyve been sharp to this date (back then on a film Canon). So a cam with a crappy AF - is a crappy cam. Sorry Olympus. Its not a limitation. Its a fail.
Gordon, thanks for this. Two questions? Did I hear right that you said the GH5 can do 15 frames per second time-lapse?? That has me baffled. Also, what about the 4x crop in 4k? Is that any good on the OMD? It's something that Andrew Reid has promoted but I am struggling to find it mentioned elsewhere. It's a great detailed review and I am just wondering whether it is worth adding a timing for each chapter? For video guys like me who are only interested in the video, there's a lot to get through to find the video section. Thanks though!
Hi Nick, it's a while since I've use3d this camera, but you'll find LOTS more info in my even bigger review at cameralabs, and there's a separate section on the movie mode for you if you scroll down at www.cameralabs.com/olympus-omd-em10-mark-iii-review/
If you want to do Macro photography, you cant beat Olympus and their 60mm f2.8 macro lens. It weighs only 183 grams and it is SUPER SHARP. Plus, with the Olympus camera body, you get 5 stops of stabilization while shooting handheld macro and you can do focus bracketing in the camera, then focus stacking in post production to get a great depth of field. The only other camera at this price point to compare is the G85, but the Panasonic macro lenses are inferior to the Olympus 60mm macro.
I like the reviews but I would like to see actual video samples and a review conducted after they were conducted. You two seem to miss the importance of video and the 4K mindset of newbies.
first like, first comment, M43 is one of the best formats, and very under-estimated, . . . EM10III is the best value compact-sized camera out there, don't know if one should wait for EM5-III or Panasonic GX9
The EM10 always felt like a toy, buy the EM5ii, if you wait for the iii you may get 20mp but also a substantial price hike, and from what I can see the image quality on the EM1ii is only marginally better, and probably makes little difference in the real world
thanks Zardos Spinosa, the Hump (for EVF) on top of EM10ii is plastic, while on EM5ii it is metal, says something about the build of entry level EM10 series compared to semi-pro EM5 series. When EM5iii comes, it will be laden with new features absent on EM10iii, but as of now, yes, EM5-II is a strong contender, and more practical, like you rightly pointed out. Fuji XE3 and XT20 are fantastic, but they lack IBIS, the main downside of Fuji, and are 1300$ each, twice than Em10iii @ 650$. Olympus are formidable cameras, under-rated, under-estimated, under-hyped, by APSC (Fuji & Sony) & Fullframe (DSLR) users. They deserve more attention than they get.
Chirag Parikh yep you are right there, Olympus gets very little mention these days, kinda over shadowed by the modern big names. That said the M4/3 sensor does have it's limitations and the competitors have pushed bigger and better so Olympus appears left behind. I do think the M4/3 sensor has hit a brick wall, and Olympus will need to come out with an entirely new and revolutionary sensor if it is going to keep up, which is why I am not buying the EM1ii. But as a travel camera which is my main genre, the EM5ii is blinkn fantastic and very compact kit, 9-18 for wide, 25 and 45 for portrait and then the 14-150 walk around. I do have the 40-150 Pro although a fine lens it's too bloody heavy so I am leaving it behind yet again, got a trip to Myanmar coming up in 2 weeks, prior I have made several trips to Cambodia, the photo opportunities are awesome, at the end of the day it's still about the capture and the experience behind it.
Hi Gordon and Dough! As always, a great review and a very appealing video to watch. You 2 make a wonderful team. I bought this camera 2 weeks ago, and I have a big question. The only way to shoot 4k is to go into the video mode with the dial and choose 4k? I'd like to be able to be shooting photos in aperture/shutter priority or manual and still press the record button if there is something worth filming. However, in these modes I only find 1080p options. I wouldn't like the dial to break from turning it all day each time I want to do a video.
HI jan, glad you liked the video! Yes, the only way to access 4k is to turn the dial to the movie mode, then you press the button to the side of the power switch to access the options. I would also prefer to just set 4k from the menus so that pushing record would start video in whatever mode I wanted. i guess they are trying to hide it from users who may not want or need it, and also trying to make the menus simpler. But I will suggest to them anyway.
@@cameralabs Thanks for your reply Gordon. I saw your review of Lumix G100. I was considering the G100 to replace my Lumix G2 but later drop that idea due to the max shutter speed of 1/500. I have been researching EM10 Mark IV past few days and believe this is better than G100 in terms of photography. I just ordered OMD EM10 Mark III from Amazon for USD 379. Do you think the OMD EM10 Mark III still better than G100 in terms of photography?
I just bought this camera from an Olympus outlet sale. Refurbished with the 12-42 EZ lens, carrying bag and 16 GB memory card. With a 20% discount it was $300 US.
You can shoot baby with any camera, Its depend how much light u have in your scenery to keep your shutter speed high. Check first tutorials how to shoot in different kind of situations.
Hi Gordon, great review! I've got question regarding your video samples posted on cameralabs. Did you use external device for audio recording? I really love new EM10, I think it fits my needs (stop using smartphone while I'm travelling). My only doubts are about internal mic. Will it be sufficient for recording family events, sightseeing etc (nothing professional). On the other hand, even if I decide to get gx80 or dig deeper in my pocket and get em5.2, it's questionable if I force myself to carry around additional stuff like external mic just to make few videos during vacation. So my question is: did you use external recorder? If yes, is internal mic really bad? If no, in my opinion it does a really good job and my doubts are resolved. Thank you in advance for answer!
Hi there! All the sample movies in my EM10 III review were made with the built-in microphones - no external device used! If you're happy with the quality, then go for it!
Eventually I bought em10 mkII + 14-42 pancake. I've got it for ~2/3 of the price of mkIII with the same lens and I think it was a great deal. I realised, that 4k, better UI, and some other improvements does not justify this price gap. In addition, for my needs, buying em5 was irrational also - I wouldn't use additional features anyway. I'm playing around for some time with this camera and I don't regret this decision. Mic is better than I thought it will be, image and video quality is great, after all, camera is limited by my skills:) I wouldn't change it for Panasonic - IMHO Oly looks better and it makes me happy (yes, it sounds crazy). There are some drawbacks: battery charger is huge and you can't power it up via usb (I knew that before buying, but still, it annoys as hell, lack of standardization offends me :) I've actually ordered smaller usb charger for this battery, few dollars, it should solve this issue. My next step: zuiko 45mm F/1.8, looking at the price, I'm glad, that I've saved some money getting older body.
I know this is 10 months old, and I know you for the em10 ii however I know the em10 III has the ability for an external microphone to be attached using the olympus adaptor, for anyone reading this now and interested in the unit!
Love it and agree with Gordon about access setting can be a bit long Tooth more so on the mk2 however Gordon your partner in crime there bring out the faults within accessibility of settings can I throw back a response to his comments......he likes Sony camera and on that point they have the worst camera layout in camera menus on the planet they make Olympus menus godsend
Hey Gordan, hope you are well! love all of your videos always. If you don't mind me asking, what would you recommend, the Olympus M10 iii or the Panasonic GX80? I recently saw the Olympus's at Currys/PC world and I was just blown away by how nice it looks and how light it is. But obviously feature matter more so, I'm looking for good IBIS and 4K, I loved your video on the GX80 and that got me fixated on that camera but I just wanna know what you would say? Oh and obviously if GX80 is cheaper, GX80 £459 and M10 iii is £699. Thank you Gordan! sorry for the long request again. -Samar Ali Khan
Don't underestimate how important it is to find a camera you like the look and feel of. If you prefer the style of the Olympus, it'll end up being the camera you take out more with you. There isn't a huge difference in features between them, but do check my reviews to cover all the details.
Thank you! And it is correct of you to say to check your review, as you a very thorough, you don't miss an inch of information haha! Love that about you. You're in inspiration mate. -Samar Ali Khan
Another great review and i subscribed to help you get into the posh coffee shop,the lack of a good CAF can be overcome for occasional shooting by pumping the shutter so taking individual shots, not perfect but a work round.
Hi gordon and doug, great reviews as always and i really enjoy them with a good cup of coffee and just listen to it as it is both informative and entertaining as well. I was actually considering purchasing the em10 mark III but now I've noticed the price drop on the Fuji xt-20 so the price difference between them is just a 100$ now ( the Fuji with the 16-50 mm lens) which is still on my budget range. what i liked about the em10 is the size ( although not that much of a difference to the fuji) and the price but now as they are close to each other I'm torn apart between the two. I know that they are both 2 different cameras but the price drop on the fuji made it quite alluring to me. I'm more into still photography with very little video usage so video capabilities are not the selling point for me , any helpful advice on this matter?? thanks in advance and i hope you continue these great reviews.
Gordon, I’m leaning toward the em 10 mark ii since I’m not determined to have 4K video and because the mark iii doesn’t allow the use of a shutter release cable. I know you’ve reviewed both the mark ii and the mark iii....if you were to choose between these 2 cameras and video wasn’t a big deal for you, which would you choose?
The major difference between the II and III as you've surmised is 4k video. The other differences are really minor, so if you don't need 4k, I'd go for the Mark II. PS - if you're ordering it online, please do go through my links in the description or at cameralabs.com, thanks!
Sadly for Olympus, there is Canon M6 Mark 2 on 70$ less, with Dual Pixel focus in 4K and large sensor I also think, that there are lot of tech witch is outside real life. 80% of in camera stabilisations are useless, and actually if you will watch video samples of Olympus on youtube, you will see very strange image micro lags. I think, that there must be a difference between casual camera and semi pro. Casual is PEN 9/10 cameras, let them be nice tourist cameras. This one sounds like little bit more pro orientated, so why spend budgets on stabilisation if I will use stable stick. Even chineese electronic stable stick will do better job than any in camera. So I yet do not understand price of this camera if it is absolutly equal to PEN camera and in some points even worse. I think any camera nowadays must set priorities like: - Acceptable video autofocus like Canon, Sony or at least Fuji - 4k without overheat, to be able to make at least 1 hour of video. And instruction how fight overheat, for example, maybe turning off face detection will make it last longer - usb charge I was almost buying this camera and than when I saw that Sensor is Micro, I "What?!" Same as PEN cost as normal Crop? I understand that this camera is cons vs crop cameras, for example it writes 4K for infinitive time (2+ hours on one battery) without overheat, but thanks to it's small senson. But MBPS is from 50 to 90, not 100 or more. So why it is better than Panasonic? Panasonic cost much less for more functionality, for example G85. If you tell, that Olympus take better photos, and if you are targeting photos you can buy old Full Frame canon, it will be unbeatable in photos. But again difference between panasonic and olympus because there small sensor in photos are small, and not even comparable to bigger sensors for adequate reasons. I think that best cameras on market are Fujifilm, but their video features below XT3 is horrible, only for small special clips.
I feel it's got too many limitations compared to m10 ii. The fact that the silent shutter is only available in program mode just about kills it for me. I have no idea who would want this camera - phones shoot 4k nowadays, so that's not gonna be enough of a draw.
Subscribed and liked! Hope you enjoy that coffee! REALLY hope you can help me decide between m10 iii and GX85 for my first interchangeable lens camera: I love the look of the Oly but I'm afraid of the paired down features. No custom "myset" modes, button customization limited to the point of being nonexistent, very confused by inability to access drive mode in HDR, BRK, or exposure over 60"...can't use 2 sec self timer to eliminate shake from pushing shutter. I'd almost want to get the mark ii instead but the improved grip really does make a difference, and I feel the add-on grip of the mark ii adds too much bottom bulk. I love how customizable the GX85 is. I've been using point and shoots for years, mostly for travel and hiking and always valued pocketability... thus, small and light w/EVF are key for me (hence entry-mid level m43). Video isn't important to me other than the intriguing idea of using 4K video to pull 8mp stills...still not sure if GX85's implementation is gimmick or value added and could I just do the same with 4K vids from the Oly.
@@ASMRBreathe I got the EM 10 mark II. The mark III seemed more like a downgrade than upgrade, and the smaller grip isn't such a big deal. The Olympus seemed more photography focused than the GX85 and I don't really care about video.
@@LawrenceValverde Wow thanks for the fast reply! I really don't know which one to choose, i started my own jewelry company so i need good photo's. But i do really like the slim look of the GX85.. why did the mark III seemed more like a downgrade?
@@ASMRBreathe If you're getting the camera for more professional photos of merchandise, I don't think the look of the camera itself should matter...my 2cents on that. As for the mark III, I basically lay it out in my initial comment, all those things lacking are present in the mark II, only thing missing is 4K video. Honestly, for your purposes you may be better off getting a cheap DSLR unless your intention is to also use this as your new travel camera. In that case, I also borrowed the GX85 for a few weeks and loved it. I think you can't go wrong with either.
@@LawrenceValverde Thanks lawrence! Yes i do have one the nikon d5300 but i want a mirrorless camera for travel as well! So maybe yes i schould stick with the gx85. I find it a difficult decision though haha!
28.50 handing over this to a novice finding help will they?.well as a novice we expect the person to look into all this if he is going to turn to a knowledgable photographer.wanting to learn about photography and not just take pictures. otherwise he can use amobile camera phone an be done with it
Em5 is better but for the same price Olympus pen F, it’s small more megapixels and it’s like they stole a bit of everything from all the rang and squashed it into a small camera infact it has more pixels better 5 axes stability and a full flip out screen better focus infact only thing missing is 4K
Compared to the Fuji xt20 which one you think more capable and better rounded? and is iq improvement worth the step up to the xt20? As usual another awesome review. PD: you should publish another episode of your book with new images. I really like it and have read it several times already 😋
It's a really tough one to compare. I think the Fuji has the edge on quality, in terms of detail and lower noise at high ISOs, but the key selling point of the Olympus is the great image stabilisation that lets you keep to low ISOs so long as the subject's not moving...
There's no tangible difference in IQ between µ4:3 and APS-C where it matters, because unlike the schematic you see everywhere, which stack the sensors in one corner to compare sizes, in real life, the comparison is when sensors are centered. Then, you'd see that most of the pixel "advantage" of APS-C over µ4:3 is in two narrow bands on the outside of the frame, left and right, and two "lines" top and bottom. But size for size, the pixel density of the 16Mpix imager of µ4:3 is about the same as any 24Mpix APS-C out there. The DR is about the same too, and the 5 axis ibis deals with the high iso situations (gain is easily 3 stops over the competitors). Add to the mix ridiculously light and short lens, and you get an almost pocketable system (body + 3 lens easily fits a man bag) that nothing can touch in convenience at that IQ point. This is the key. Even mirrorless APS-C systems still deal with massive glass, and there's nothing they can do about that because, you know, physics. Full frame is of course worse.
great video but i hate the fact that they changed the battery pack form that of the Pen F , so now for me the choice between Lumix and Olympus became the same, surly any new OM will come in 2018 will also have this larger battery.
This is because it's basically an updated version of the older Em10 Mark II. But even then I don't think they'd be able to squeeze the Em1 II battery in the thin body.
Very sneaky! You make us watch for over half an hour before you mention the possible deal-breakers: Screen not fully articulated, no usb-charging, NO microphone input! To hell with this camera.
There's lots of videos out there that are short and basic. I like to be different by spending time reviewing and reporting on a camera, so they all end up being close to an hour. It's just my style!
Couple of years back, found an EM10 Mii at a Pawn shop for a great price, works perfectly and became my EDC camera even though I have all the other formats. Then couple months back, found an EM10 MiiiS for even better price and now together they are my EDC cameras. Awesome feature set, small, light, great for travel, street or what every you need, love them.
I have the em10mk iii & I find it gives you a lot of features and good image quality for the price range. The grip is ok, along with the evf. I use it with the big sharp zoom lens, 14-150, esp. for travel photography
Is it ok this lens 14-150 for this body? Or it is too big and is it hard to use it?
Had a Olympus Om-1, Om- 2n and a Om- 10 in the 70s/ 80s and im off to my local camera shop about 10 miles from where i live to buy this little beauty. So many good reviews about this camera, prefer the black / chrome model ,looks so classy ,sold .
These videos are long and I listen to them while painting and I must say they are ideal for that. Information is very good and it's almost like experiencing it myself listening to you.
Hi Gordon you can set the 'OK' button to enable super control panel for the AP setting. This lets you press OK whilst in silent mode to access the advanced settings. (it's in C1 in Control Settings in the menu options)
its Sept 2019 now and i just discovered this review since i am interested in buying the Olympus EM 10 III for beginners like me
Glad you found me! You might also find my buyer's guide useful here: www.cameralabs.com/best-mirrorless/
Try Canon M6 Mark 2
@@BuzzyManSport expensive
So glad you highlighted the ergonomics. The quality feel of Olympus camera's was a major selling point for myself (the dials are hugely satisfying as you said).
It's a very personal thing, but I really like them!
I love this camera... sold my Canon 700d and kept my M50, but the EM10 is the one I always go to... so much in a small camera and bought it for 350 euros with the EZ lens
Thank you Gordon and Doug for another interesting, entertaining and very informative presentation.
You're welcome, thankyou!
For fast action, I live by the ocean and do a lot of wave portraits. I turn on continuous focus and never had a blurred result. At first I thought I needed to do the successive shorts but it's blazing fast to focus and I know when the wave is breaking.It's so much fun.
It's all about finding out what techniques work for you, your gear and your subject - sounds like you've nailed it!
@@cameralabs Thanks Gordon. Best wishes
Outstanding review. I pulled out my camera and learned. Thanks so much!
Happy to help!
@Gordon - on the 16 MP resolution - I agree with you though- the issue I have with the 16 MP sensor in this camera is the fact that it's this old sensor been around for a while. If they used a new 16 MP sensor with better DR/ISO/Color, I wouldn't mind. So it's the fact that it's a 16 MP sensor that's been around for a while the issue to me.
Beautiful retro design.Easily the prettiest mirrorless camera.Complete with fake pentaprism dome.
Reminds me of the old OM10 film camera I owned 30 years ago.
Mind you, he is holding the camera so close to the screen it looks bigger than it is.
It is a LOT smaller than it looks in this video.
I’ve had a 5 mark ii for a while now and love it. I feel no need for this new one, but for anyone considering the 10 mark iii would be very happy with it. MFT cameras take great pictures. They are marvelous for travel.
Too bad dynamic range is little bit disappointment. I made review on my channel and compared it with my Nikon DSLR.
Gordon and Doug,
I'm concerned about the lack of Shutter Mode selectivity. On the Mk2 version we could choose between:
• Mechanical Shutter
• Anti-Shock Shutter
• Electronic Shutter
modes, all of which have their appropriate uses.
As a professional photographer, I like the Mk3 as it is nicely customisable to behave like a modern-day OM-2. BUT, if I can't select Manual Shutter -- only offered a choice between Anti-Shock and Electronic Shutter modes, then this camera has a serious problem.
I've not been able to find any way to choose between the three shutter modes on the Mk3. Is this possible, please?
Many thanks for a great video review,
Rick
Hi Rick, I'm afraid I filmed this a LONG time ago and can't remember, sorry! It should be in their manual though.
Oops! CORRECTION
SELECTING SHUTTER MODES for Mk3
The Manual Shutter and Anti-Shock Shutter ◇ are accessed using the Super Menu *BUTTON*, which is what's located top left of the *camera body*.
Once in the Super Menu, you need to move the cursor over the box underneath the Auto Focus Area grid. The camera will now display the currently selected Shutter Mode, in words, at top left, above the Super Menu grid.
Clicking OK tells the camera you want to select one of its Mechanical Shutter modes. You're taken to a new screen, where the various Mechanical Shutter Mode options are displayed along the bottom of the screen. These are:
Single, Single Anti-Shock ◇, Sequential High, Sequential Low, Sequential Low Anti-Shock ◇, followed by the timer options, 12s, 12s Anti-Shock ◇, 2s, 2s Anti-Shock ◇, 1-3-0.5s Custom, and finally 1-3-0.5s Anti-Shock ◇.
Use the cursor keys to select your required Mechanical Shutter mode, and press OK.
To access the Electronic Shutter options, you must be in Advanced Program or SCN mode.
Rick
Great review, I bought this camera in Japan whilst traveling. Great camera. I am not a great photographer. Great features and way better than a point and shoot or smart phone. Only gripe is the screen is not full 180 swing. So not for vloggers apart from that all good.
Hi, thanks for the review. I found it really useful. I have a question: Do you know how to turn off the main display of the camera? I have only found how to deactivate the view finder. Thanks
If I'm planning to use 60% for video and 40% for photo. I should buy E-M10 III or Panasonic G85?
I'd get the G85 if you're using it that much for video.
Here in December 2019 I got the kit with the EZ lens, SD card, and case for $499 at B&H.
Note: in 2019, the Olympus software you can download using your serial # has panorama and focus stacking in the Tools menu. So the camera doesn't do it, but the supplied PC/Mac software will.
Hi Gordon, may I ask you for a short answer to my problem? This autum I will go the Everest Trek. I do want filming first time. To compile my gear for my Needs I would like to know, what you would prefer: Filming with apsc-camera in FHD resolution or filming in UHD with a mft-camera? The videomaterial will be watched on 65 ich UHD TV.
Such an entertaining show. Thank you both!
Thanks, you're welcome!
Honestly, if you want a camera for stills and can stomach the Olympus menus, the mark II is a far better camera, if only for the electronic shutter in all PASM modes. Not that the mark III is a bad camera, but it's one that will let you down at some point because most advanced features have been crippled while the mark II is a small E-M5-II missing only the WR and super resolution mode. For instance, the mark III can't use the L-Fn button on pro lens, can't pilot multiple flashes in TTL, won't let you use e-shutter in PASM, and a bunch of other features that have been removed. But it can do 4K which the mark II can not (but the II does 1080@60p, which isn't too shabby all things considered, for shooting a clip from time to time).
Slight nitpicking on this otherwise great and comprehensive review : the E-M10 doesn't C-AF in High speed burst mode (8 fps). It keeps the focus of the 1st frame of the burst. It only updates AF in Low speed burst mode (4 fps). To my knowledge, only the E-M1mkII can C-AF in High speed, but only with phase detection compatible lens (I may be wrong here).
thinking obuying as second camera,this was and is very helpful thanks gordon
Gordon..You guys know m4/3rds cameras...I switched to Fuji and I love their cameras but i have the 12-60...the 9-18mm and the 70-300mm lenses that I used on my Olympus E3...If you wanted to buy a mirrorless body that would support these lenses .( I know you need the adapter)they are substantial..without looking silly in either the Olympus or Panasonic line..and would support their weight .What would it be????
I personally would like 20 megapixels. I am not saying 24 is necessary, but I currently have the Samsung NX210 with a 20.1 megapixel sensor and I appreciate the extra resolution for cropping.
Do you think the Panasonic Lx-100 is worth buying right now. Is there anything you can think of that is similar?
Got this camera brand new last week for $175.00
Wow.. Link?
@@thomasshepherd7207 got it from a camera store in Charlotte NC...
I absolutely agree about the EM5 mark 2. You lose the 4k, but as least you gain the 77mbps ALL-I for 1080p, and the em5 mark 2 is a MUCH better photography camera, in my opinion. I owned the mark 2 and it was a little too small for me. GREAT camera, and I even did a recent review on it on my channel. But the mark 5 is spectacular. I actually cant wait for the EM5 mark 3.
pat they've slimmed it down on the 3 which makes it easier to navigate but also removed some features
I dont agree, i used the EM5 mark II sinds it came out and now i have the Em10 mark III as a back-up and absolutly love it. The menu is much easyer to navigate and the picture quality is actualy the same and somtimes better do to the new processor. Video however is much better! Oke, the swivel screen is nicer to have but i personaly dont mind.
Meh.... the em5 mkii isnt much better than the original em5.... the only "real" upgrade was the em1 mkii ....
Any camera with a flip out to the side screen like the EM5ii will never be a better camera for photography.
@@darrendavenport3334 The EM5ii is a huge upgrade over mk1, no comparison.
You have won a new subscriber :) But got away with the feeling you were avoiding it's most direct competitor, the GX80...
Not sure if i should take this or Canon's 200d (SL2)
Thank You. Is it a all weather Camera?
I don't think so, but everything I know about it is in this video.
I do a lot of distance shooting with a zoom lens and wondering if the 16 mp is good enough for a high resolution on these shots
Depends on your expectations and requirements. I always provide a load of sample images you can download via my reviews at cameralabs.com so grab a couple and see if they're good enough
I like your videos. Sometimes, I skip over them because they're so long, but you two do a good job of including information that cannot be gotten from specs. Other reviewers ramble on for 20 minutes and mostly just reiterate specs. I also like how you mention competing models and their pros and cons.
More input from Doug, please. His style and tastes are different than Gordon's which is good. It's one of the reasons this channel can get away with such long episodes.
Price Update: At the date of this posting, they're going for $420 w/kit lens, 16 GB card and Olympus bag refurbished on FeeBay.
30:35 Re. EVF magnification: Remember the Nikon F3HP? 0.9x? Why have we lowered our standards to the extent that 0.7x is "high-end"?
37:10 - Interesting question: Does the fact that this camera has an EVF contribute to Gordy's ability to hand-hold at 1/2 sec.?
43:05 - You've got one more subscriber. Don't let me down, bitch! ;-) Oh wait, you've already got 118k now. I can un-subscribe at any time...
46:35 - The Douger admits that he's got to sit back and listen to Gordy. ;-) He only got 5 minutes of talk out of nearly an hour. :-(
49:20 - Amen, brother. 16 MP is not a limitation unless you're a REALLY bad photographer, or your make big prints, or you're too cheap to buy a long enough lens for what you're photographing.
56:19 - The Douger breaks it down properly and concisely. Well-done! Personally, I don't have enough dough to just arbitrarily spend 40% more. This is big bux and it's gonna hafta do.
- You guys plugged the HELL out of that book, but missed the opportunity to point out all of the EXCELLENT preset modes in this camera. NO ONE does ART mode like Olympus. Am I right?!
So they are not going to update this new menu on the old cameras? That’s not good for consistency!
I like tilt screen better than flip
When you do perspective correction in Photoshop you may loose some of the subject or scene that you want. So, it is nice to be able to do it in camera. You may be able to zoom out or step back.
What's the native ISO range without extending it?
Focus stacking how does the Olympus compare to Panasonic 4K Photo mode that does the "same" thing?
The Panasonics will assemble them in-camera. You need to do it with your own software on the Olympus.
HI GORDON, In a video of two years ago reviewing the EM10 111. You referenced that at Google, you had to use a vending machine, because your subscription followers were below 1000,000. Now of course you are above 129,000. Anyway, your more detailed written review persuaded me to purchase the em10. As someone originally from Brighton, I appreciate the pics of an area I know well, best wishes. David
Ah I see now! Yes, I now have over 100k subs, but Google has sadly withdrawn its creator managers, so I have less opportunity to go an visit them! Ah well!
How hard is it to remember diamond is electronic first curtain and heart is fully electronic silent?
It's difficult to even see the tiny icons
@@cameralabs Sorry, I overly reacted. I already own an α6000. Instead of trading it in for α6100 or α6400, I purchased a Mk III which has IBIS at such an affordable price! (Also partly because Olympus sold the consumer camera division to JIP.) I wanted the silent shooting on the Mk II. But having 4K makes more sense in 2020. I'll live with the silent mode in AP. At least there is silent continuous shooting. Thanks for the review.
Is this Camera good for street photography? Thank you.
Sure, but you can use any camera for street photography.
Hey Gordon, sorry if this question is so long!! But do you still recommend in the em10 mark iii, even though the camera is 2 years old? I'm just getting into photography, only ever had a smartphone and have decided I like the Olympus system and lenses. The em1 mk ii is way too expensive for me, and the em5 mk ii is somewhat tight money wise, but I know the em5 mk iii is coming out soon. I'd use it mostly for photography and maybe some home videos/travel videos. I might dabble in making amateur videos with friends for fun to post on UA-cam, but mainly would be used for photos. And I'd start doing jpegs only before I learn how to shoot raw later on down the road. I know the higher end olympus models have really frustrating menus. But do you think I should wait another couple months for them to announce the em5 iii or still go with this, even though it might be replaced by the mk iv in another year?
If you're decided on Olympus, I'd wait and see if they announce an Em5 III and then see what that does to the range.
Enjoy your Channel. Q: I know sports/action is not the specialty of my OEM E-Mk 10iii camera but I use sometimes shooting wildlife and sports. the recommended setting for shooting action on my OEM E-Mk 10iii? Image stabilization on or off. CAF etc... Focus area etc...
Same for any camera - use CAF and a burst mode with a fast enough shutter to freeze the action if desired. IS can be on.
Gordon your reviews have helped me tremendously! I’m wanting to purchase my first camera and I can’t choose between the Olympus OMD EM10 Miii vs LUMIX G85 . I was set on the Olympus but I do have a very active 2 year old and I’m wondering if the AF will be able to keep up with him . Do you recommend one over the other ?
I would say the AF on both models is similar and to be honest, may not be good enough once they start really running around. For more confident tracking of moving subjects I'd go for a Sony (like the A6000) or a Canon (like the EOS M50)
I missed few shots in my life based on crappy AF and wish theyve been sharp to this date (back then on a film Canon). So a cam with a crappy AF - is a crappy cam. Sorry Olympus. Its not a limitation. Its a fail.
Gordon, thanks for this. Two questions? Did I hear right that you said the GH5 can do 15 frames per second time-lapse?? That has me baffled. Also, what about the 4x crop in 4k? Is that any good on the OMD? It's something that Andrew Reid has promoted but I am struggling to find it mentioned elsewhere. It's a great detailed review and I am just wondering whether it is worth adding a timing for each chapter? For video guys like me who are only interested in the video, there's a lot to get through to find the video section. Thanks though!
Hi Nick, it's a while since I've use3d this camera, but you'll find LOTS more info in my even bigger review at cameralabs, and there's a separate section on the movie mode for you if you scroll down at www.cameralabs.com/olympus-omd-em10-mark-iii-review/
Nice review is there an reason to to wait for the omd em mark lll ?
If you want to do Macro photography, you cant beat Olympus and their 60mm f2.8 macro lens. It weighs only 183 grams and it is SUPER SHARP. Plus, with the Olympus camera body, you get 5 stops of stabilization while shooting handheld macro and you can do focus bracketing in the camera, then focus stacking in post production to get a great depth of field. The only other camera at this price point to compare is the G85, but the Panasonic macro lenses are inferior to the Olympus 60mm macro.
So the panorama and focus stacking are not the best in camera
The price point may make it worth it
I like the reviews but I would like to see actual video samples and a review conducted after they were conducted. You two seem to miss the importance of video and the 4K mindset of newbies.
Just put the Easter egg's throughout the video!
In the netherlands the g80 with lens is 100 bucks more than the m10 III with ez lens.
Gordon - Does this have the same sensor that you now like on the EM5 mark iii?
Pretty sure that this has the 16MP sensor but the EM5 mk III has the newer 20MP sensor
Where is the Gordon and Doug Canon SL2 review that Gordon mentions ? I can't find it
We were referring to my review at www.cameralabs.com/canon-eos-200d-rebel-sl2-review/2/
first like, first comment, M43 is one of the best formats, and very under-estimated, . . . EM10III is the best value compact-sized camera out there, don't know if one should wait for EM5-III or Panasonic GX9
I agree, it's a good value mirrorless camera.
And what would you pick when the lumix g80 with kit lens is only 100 buck more, like here in the netherlands?
The EM10 always felt like a toy, buy the EM5ii, if you wait for the iii you may get 20mp but also a substantial price hike, and from what I can see the image quality on the EM1ii is only marginally better, and probably makes little difference in the real world
thanks Zardos Spinosa, the Hump (for EVF) on top of EM10ii is plastic, while on EM5ii it is metal, says something about the build of entry level EM10 series compared to semi-pro EM5 series. When EM5iii comes, it will be laden with new features absent on EM10iii, but as of now, yes, EM5-II is a strong contender, and more practical, like you rightly pointed out. Fuji XE3 and XT20 are fantastic, but they lack IBIS, the main downside of Fuji, and are 1300$ each, twice than Em10iii @ 650$. Olympus are formidable cameras, under-rated, under-estimated, under-hyped, by APSC (Fuji & Sony) & Fullframe (DSLR) users. They deserve more attention than they get.
Chirag Parikh yep you are right there, Olympus gets very little mention these days, kinda over shadowed by the modern big names. That said the M4/3 sensor does have it's limitations and the competitors have pushed bigger and better so Olympus appears left behind. I do think the M4/3 sensor has hit a brick wall, and Olympus will need to come out with an entirely new and revolutionary sensor if it is going to keep up, which is why I am not buying the EM1ii. But as a travel camera which is my main genre, the EM5ii is blinkn fantastic and very compact kit, 9-18 for wide, 25 and 45 for portrait and then the 14-150 walk around. I do have the 40-150 Pro although a fine lens it's too bloody heavy so I am leaving it behind yet again, got a trip to Myanmar coming up in 2 weeks, prior I have made several trips to Cambodia, the photo opportunities are awesome, at the end of the day it's still about the capture and the experience behind it.
This camera was so close to perfect... but that continuous AF... :(
Hi Gordon and Dough! As always, a great review and a very appealing video to watch. You 2 make a wonderful team.
I bought this camera 2 weeks ago, and I have a big question.
The only way to shoot 4k is to go into the video mode with the dial and choose 4k?
I'd like to be able to be shooting photos in aperture/shutter priority or manual and still press the record button if there is something worth filming.
However, in these modes I only find 1080p options. I wouldn't like the dial to break from turning it all day each time I want to do a video.
HI jan, glad you liked the video! Yes, the only way to access 4k is to turn the dial to the movie mode, then you press the button to the side of the power switch to access the options. I would also prefer to just set 4k from the menus so that pushing record would start video in whatever mode I wanted. i guess they are trying to hide it from users who may not want or need it, and also trying to make the menus simpler. But I will suggest to them anyway.
Gordon Laing Thanks a lot Gordon!
Hi Gordon. And how did you set ISO 800 in this video vimeo.com/237376241 ? I'm confused :)
Are you going to review the new EM10 Mark IV ?
No plans to do so, not now as it's too late so wouldn't attract enough views.
@@cameralabs Thanks for your reply Gordon. I saw your review of Lumix G100. I was considering the G100 to replace my Lumix G2 but later drop that idea due to the max shutter speed of 1/500. I have been researching EM10 Mark IV past few days and believe this is better than G100 in terms of photography. I just ordered OMD EM10 Mark III from Amazon for USD 379. Do you think the OMD EM10 Mark III still better than G100 in terms of photography?
@@bals81 I prefer the Olympus ergonomics at this end of the range, so i think you'll be happy with the Mark III!
@@cameralabs thanks Gordon!
I feel like the gx85 is the closest competitor
and unfortunetly more expensive
@@QbaqAcoustic GX85 is way cheaper than This Olympus
@@QbaqAcoustic gx85 is much cheaper in my country
Can you shoot 4k in manual mode?
can we plug an external microphone adaptater on the hotshoe (sema-1)
No
I just bought this camera from an Olympus outlet sale. Refurbished with the 12-42 EZ lens, carrying bag and 16 GB memory card. With a 20% discount it was $300 US.
It’s possible somehow to add an external microphone!!! Maybe try the micro USB port?
Sadly not.
Gordon Laing thank you for the answer, and Happy New Year!!!
Does it provide a Histogram?
EOS 250d vs M10 Mark 3? Street photo
Either would be fine, choose it on lenses and looks
Would this be a good buy for baby photos?
You can shoot baby with any camera, Its depend how much light u have in your scenery to keep your shutter speed high.
Check first tutorials how to shoot in different kind of situations.
@@kamillisowski2931 thanks for info much appreciated
Hi Gordon, great review! I've got question regarding your video samples posted on cameralabs. Did you use external device for audio recording? I really love new EM10, I think it fits my needs (stop using smartphone while I'm travelling). My only doubts are about internal mic. Will it be sufficient for recording family events, sightseeing etc (nothing professional). On the other hand, even if I decide to get gx80 or dig deeper in my pocket and get em5.2, it's questionable if I force myself to carry around additional stuff like external mic just to make few videos during vacation. So my question is: did you use external recorder? If yes, is internal mic really bad? If no, in my opinion it does a really good job and my doubts are resolved. Thank you in advance for answer!
Hi there! All the sample movies in my EM10 III review were made with the built-in microphones - no external device used! If you're happy with the quality, then go for it!
Thanks for the answer. I've made my decision, I think :)
What camera did you go for in the end?
Eventually I bought em10 mkII + 14-42 pancake. I've got it for ~2/3 of the price of mkIII with the same lens and I think it was a great deal. I realised, that 4k, better UI, and some other improvements does not justify this price gap. In addition, for my needs, buying em5 was irrational also - I wouldn't use additional features anyway. I'm playing around for some time with this camera and I don't regret this decision. Mic is better than I thought it will be, image and video quality is great, after all, camera is limited by my skills:) I wouldn't change it for Panasonic - IMHO Oly looks better and it makes me happy (yes, it sounds crazy). There are some drawbacks: battery charger is huge and you can't power it up via usb (I knew that before buying, but still, it annoys as hell, lack of standardization offends me :) I've actually ordered smaller usb charger for this battery, few dollars, it should solve this issue. My next step: zuiko 45mm F/1.8, looking at the price, I'm glad, that I've saved some money getting older body.
I know this is 10 months old, and I know you for the em10 ii however I know the em10 III has the ability for an external microphone to be attached using the olympus adaptor, for anyone reading this now and interested in the unit!
What Olympus model is on the cover of your book?
The one before this one! It was the EM10 Mark II.
Thank you!
Love it and agree with Gordon about access setting can be a bit long Tooth more so on the mk2 however Gordon your partner in crime there bring out the faults within accessibility of settings can I throw back a response to his comments......he likes Sony camera and on that point they have the worst camera layout in camera menus on the planet they make Olympus menus godsend
Hey Gordan, hope you are well! love all of your videos always. If you don't mind me asking, what would you recommend, the Olympus M10 iii or the Panasonic GX80? I recently saw the Olympus's at Currys/PC world and I was just blown away by how nice it looks and how light it is. But obviously feature matter more so, I'm looking for good IBIS and 4K, I loved your video on the GX80 and that got me fixated on that camera but I just wanna know what you would say? Oh and obviously if GX80 is cheaper, GX80 £459 and M10 iii is £699.
Thank you Gordan! sorry for the long request again.
-Samar Ali Khan
Don't underestimate how important it is to find a camera you like the look and feel of. If you prefer the style of the Olympus, it'll end up being the camera you take out more with you. There isn't a huge difference in features between them, but do check my reviews to cover all the details.
Thank you! And it is correct of you to say to check your review, as you a very thorough, you don't miss an inch of information haha! Love that about you. You're in inspiration mate.
-Samar Ali Khan
Another great review and i subscribed to help you get into the posh coffee shop,the lack of a good CAF can be overcome for occasional shooting by pumping the shutter so taking individual shots, not perfect but a work round.
Thanks Mike, good tip...
Surprised the Pen F didn't come up in this conversation. In fact I'm surprised you haven't done a whole video on it...
Olympus never sent me one for review.
Hi gordon and doug, great reviews as always and i really enjoy them with a good cup of coffee and just listen to it as it is both informative and entertaining as well. I was actually considering purchasing the em10 mark III but now I've noticed the price drop on the Fuji xt-20 so the price difference between them is just a 100$ now ( the Fuji with the 16-50 mm lens) which is still on my budget range. what i liked about the em10 is the size ( although not that much of a difference to the fuji) and the price but now as they are close to each other I'm torn apart between the two. I know that they are both 2 different cameras but the price drop on the fuji made it quite alluring to me. I'm more into still photography with very little video usage so video capabilities are not the selling point for me , any helpful advice on this matter?? thanks in advance and i hope you continue these great reviews.
question does it have updates
Check the Olympus firmware update page
thanks for the review you make a good couple keep on with this job
Gordon, I’m leaning toward the em 10 mark ii since I’m not determined to have 4K video and because the mark iii doesn’t allow the use of a shutter release cable. I know you’ve reviewed both the mark ii and the mark iii....if you were to choose between these 2 cameras and video wasn’t a big deal for you, which would you choose?
The major difference between the II and III as you've surmised is 4k video. The other differences are really minor, so if you don't need 4k, I'd go for the Mark II. PS - if you're ordering it online, please do go through my links in the description or at cameralabs.com, thanks!
Gordon Laing. Thank you, I will :)
Sadly for Olympus, there is Canon M6 Mark 2 on 70$ less, with Dual Pixel focus in 4K and large sensor
I also think, that there are lot of tech witch is outside real life. 80% of in camera stabilisations are useless, and actually if you will watch video samples of Olympus on youtube, you will see very strange image micro lags.
I think, that there must be a difference between casual camera and semi pro. Casual is PEN 9/10 cameras, let them be nice tourist cameras. This one sounds like little bit more pro orientated, so why spend budgets on stabilisation if I will use stable stick. Even chineese electronic stable stick will do better job than any in camera.
So I yet do not understand price of this camera if it is absolutly equal to PEN camera and in some points even worse.
I think any camera nowadays must set priorities like:
- Acceptable video autofocus like Canon, Sony or at least Fuji
- 4k without overheat, to be able to make at least 1 hour of video. And instruction how fight overheat, for example, maybe turning off face detection will make it last longer
- usb charge
I was almost buying this camera and than when I saw that Sensor is Micro, I "What?!" Same as PEN cost as normal Crop?
I understand that this camera is cons vs crop cameras, for example it writes 4K for infinitive time (2+ hours on one battery) without overheat, but thanks to it's small senson. But MBPS is from 50 to 90, not 100 or more.
So why it is better than Panasonic? Panasonic cost much less for more functionality, for example G85.
If you tell, that Olympus take better photos, and if you are targeting photos you can buy old Full Frame canon, it will be unbeatable in photos. But again difference between panasonic and olympus because there small sensor in photos are small, and not even comparable to bigger sensors for adequate reasons.
I think that best cameras on market are Fujifilm, but their video features below XT3 is horrible, only for small special clips.
I feel it's got too many limitations compared to m10 ii. The fact that the silent shutter is only available in program mode just about kills it for me. I have no idea who would want this camera - phones shoot 4k nowadays, so that's not gonna be enough of a draw.
Thank you thank you and yes I will go to the help button for help because I’m a beginner. Rock on guys!
thanks!
Did they change the menu ??
At first glance, no, but look closer and a lot of stuff has been taken out and moved into the AP mode.
what about IBIS ?????
This camera has no electronic shutter in the SCP. Why?
It's now in the AP mode.
how long battry low
The way they dumbed this down, they should call it the E-m100 instead of the 10mk3
Subscribed and liked! Hope you enjoy that coffee! REALLY hope you can help me decide between m10 iii and GX85 for my first interchangeable lens camera:
I love the look of the Oly but I'm afraid of the paired down features. No custom "myset" modes, button customization limited to the point of being nonexistent, very confused by inability to access drive mode in HDR, BRK, or exposure over 60"...can't use 2 sec self timer to eliminate shake from pushing shutter. I'd almost want to get the mark ii instead but the improved grip really does make a difference, and I feel the add-on grip of the mark ii adds too much bottom bulk. I love how customizable the GX85 is.
I've been using point and shoots for years, mostly for travel and hiking and always valued pocketability... thus, small and light w/EVF are key for me (hence entry-mid level m43).
Video isn't important to me other than the intriguing idea of using 4K video to pull 8mp stills...still not sure if GX85's implementation is gimmick or value added and could I just do the same with 4K vids from the Oly.
Which one did u chose in the end? Im deciding between the same two! I really don/t know it anymore
@@ASMRBreathe I got the EM 10 mark II. The mark III seemed more like a downgrade than upgrade, and the smaller grip isn't such a big deal. The Olympus seemed more photography focused than the GX85 and I don't really care about video.
@@LawrenceValverde Wow thanks for the fast reply! I really don't know which one to choose, i started my own jewelry company so i need good photo's. But i do really like the slim look of the GX85.. why did the mark III seemed more like a downgrade?
@@ASMRBreathe If you're getting the camera for more professional photos of merchandise, I don't think the look of the camera itself should matter...my 2cents on that.
As for the mark III, I basically lay it out in my initial comment, all those things lacking are present in the mark II, only thing missing is 4K video.
Honestly, for your purposes you may be better off getting a cheap DSLR unless your intention is to also use this as your new travel camera. In that case, I also borrowed the GX85 for a few weeks and loved it. I think you can't go wrong with either.
@@LawrenceValverde Thanks lawrence! Yes i do have one the nikon d5300 but i want a mirrorless camera for travel as well! So maybe yes i schould stick with the gx85. I find it a difficult decision though haha!
Hmm didn't popup in my feed :(
Make sure you subscribe!
43:00 I'm watching this in February 2018 and you're up to 103K subs!
YES! Finally it happened just before Christmas 2017...
28.50 handing over this to a novice finding help will they?.well as a novice we expect the person to look into all this if he is going to turn to a knowledgable photographer.wanting to learn about photography and not just take pictures. otherwise he can use amobile camera phone an be done with it
Charging from the USB port is important in hurricane season. A portable power bank might save the day.
Come on Olympus put phase detection on all your cameras
everyone has a dog or a child or likes to shoot birds this is at least 80% of shooters
maybe thee sensor in the EM1 II was too expensive to put in budget cameras. I'm not sure why they didn't roll it out across the range.
I’d be surprised if that EZ lens is anywhere near as good as the larger 14-42 kit lens.
O.K. Les he seguido con los subtítulos en español. Thank you.
Em5 is better but for the same price Olympus pen F, it’s small more megapixels and it’s like they stole a bit of everything from all the rang and squashed it into a small camera infact it has more pixels better 5 axes stability and a full flip out screen better focus infact only thing missing is 4K
If the price is the same, get the EM5 II, but the EM10 III is already cheaper in many regions.
Compared to the Fuji xt20 which one you think more capable and better rounded? and is iq improvement worth the step up to the xt20?
As usual another awesome review.
PD: you should publish another episode of your book with new images. I really like it and have read it several times already 😋
It's a really tough one to compare. I think the Fuji has the edge on quality, in terms of detail and lower noise at high ISOs, but the key selling point of the Olympus is the great image stabilisation that lets you keep to low ISOs so long as the subject's not moving...
There's no tangible difference in IQ between µ4:3 and APS-C where it matters, because unlike the schematic you see everywhere, which stack the sensors in one corner to compare sizes, in real life, the comparison is when sensors are centered. Then, you'd see that most of the pixel "advantage" of APS-C over µ4:3 is in two narrow bands on the outside of the frame, left and right, and two "lines" top and bottom. But size for size, the pixel density of the 16Mpix imager of µ4:3 is about the same as any 24Mpix APS-C out there. The DR is about the same too, and the 5 axis ibis deals with the high iso situations (gain is easily 3 stops over the competitors). Add to the mix ridiculously light and short lens, and you get an almost pocketable system (body + 3 lens easily fits a man bag) that nothing can touch in convenience at that IQ point. This is the key. Even mirrorless APS-C systems still deal with massive glass, and there's nothing they can do about that because, you know, physics. Full frame is of course worse.
Gordon shoots JPEG , and even a book on how to do it. I wonder what Jared Polin says about that.
Eddy Forero Ken Rockwell liked your comment.
So Gordon, are you getting better coffee now at Google?
Er, what do you mean?
great video but i hate the fact that they changed the battery pack form that of the Pen F , so now for me the choice between Lumix and Olympus became the same, surly any new OM will come in 2018 will also have this larger battery.
This is because it's basically an updated version of the older Em10 Mark II. But even then I don't think they'd be able to squeeze the Em1 II battery in the thin body.
The em10 1,2,3 all have image stabilization
Very sneaky! You make us watch for over half an hour before you mention the possible deal-breakers: Screen not fully articulated, no usb-charging, NO microphone input! To hell with this camera.
hope you enjoyed the show none-the-less!
Well, I did for the first half hour.
Gordon do you really need to spend ONE hr reviewing this camera? Sorry I have to miss this video, it is far too long....
There's lots of videos out there that are short and basic. I like to be different by spending time reviewing and reporting on a camera, so they all end up being close to an hour. It's just my style!