Would You Ever Date a Trans Person?
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- Опубліковано 25 лис 2023
- Breaking down some transphobic TikToks! A big theme of these ones seems to be asking if people would date a trans person
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"Oh, you've had four C-sections? So you've never actually delivered a child vaginally? And yet you still claim to be a mother? You still claim to be a woman?
"Why are you looking angry? Why are you crying? I'm simply observing upon plain, obvious facts of biology.
"Or maybe there's more to being a woman, more to being a mother, than biology? Maybe you should show your fellow humans a tiny bit of respect?
"Maybe if you showed human beings respect, you might get respect in return...?"
I'm listening to it on Spotify as an audiobook, absolutely phenomenal!
Can’t wait to get a hard copy of your book… thank you for being YOU. Thanks for putting your true self out there. We are so glad you did. ❤❤❤❤
Have you reacted to the Katie Couric documentary? I know it’s old but I think it’s wonderful. Should be required to watch in every school.
@@carmenattallah6244 Title?
I'm aromantic I'd never date a person
ahhh, yes. only aromas for you.
lol
Would you date the letter A
im demiromantic and asexual. and trans, and bisexual
Everyone is food.
I recently had a trans girl over (she's very early in her transition and still looks very masculine) and I have a cat who doesn't like strangers at first but she took really well to this girl. I told her the cat warms up more quickly to women (which is true) and her face lit up.
I'm so proud of my cat.
aahhhhh i’m smiling so hard right now, thanks for sharing
My mother has a cat that LOVES men. I was visiting her with my ftm friend a while back, and the cat was all over him. He too enjoyed being told that the cat only does that to men.
@@Solace6428 AND IT KEEPS GETTING BETTER
What a lovely way to say this it made me smile and joyful and also cats are just the best.
Gender affirming cats ftw!
I'm a trans guy and my boyfriend is cis. He said I was the final straw that helped him realize he likes boys, and that made me really happy.
thats so cute! also epic glimmer pfp
@@lonk2026 A SHE-RA FAN?? :O Also thx! ^U^
Or maybe he just likes tomboys? Sheesh
@@montee3766tomboys are girls. Transgender men/boys are men/boys. Totally different genders. A straight man might be attracted to a girl who is a tomboy, but will never be attracted to a trans guy.
@@montee3766 no, op is a man
A good analogy for misgendering in my opinion is stepping on another person's foot.
Like this is not a nice thing to do, but if you do it by accident - you just say sorry, and try to not do it again. And everything is fine.
But if when someone points out that you are standing on their foot and instead of moving you shift more weight into it - that just makes you a mean jerk.
I’m yoinking this TYSM
You have descriptive powers worthy of Apollo my friend.
Indeed.
Nah it makes me a person that isn’t going to be bullied by helicopter farts with lies. What you are born as is what you are. At least until you turn 18 then you can have whatever delusions you want and I still don’t have to play along
@@Hereforfun2024 🚨🚨🚨 TERF ALERT 🚨🚨🚨
DONT ENGAGE
I have dated a trans person and…it was…a normal relationship. Because trans people are normal people 🤷
🤯
I'm not, I'm a huge weirdo. Unrelated to gender, though ✌️
@@RainbyFINI would never date a huge weirdo but that's only because opposites attract
We humans are an odd bunch for sure.
WHAT????? BLASPHEMY😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧
If your children are old enough to call someone gay as an insult, they're old enough to actually learn about gay people.
these people have no problem if their kid finds out about gay as an insult, but they throw a fit when they find anything positive or informative.
That's it. You may make LGBT people leave your kids alone, but homo/transphobes will never even bother to do the same.
They shouldn't Learn about it at all till they're no longer kids inclusivity be damned I don't want inclusivity I want my kids to be free from outside influence in this case the pride flags everywhere in schools
@@I-like-cows your child(ren) will never be free from outside influence because you are also an influence on them. but you're okay with that, no? so maybe it's not about outside influence, but rather what you do and do not agree with. if you want your child to make the best choices for their life, you have to show them every option on the table. hiding anything away is unfair not only to them but whatever it is you think they shouldn't see. you can tell us all you want that "I don't care if other people are gay" or "it's not my choice to make", deciding for your child that they shouldn't be gay solely because you're personally not comfortable with any form of non-hetero sexuality is choosing to not show them every option.
@summerlovinxx that's my choice to make its my child not anyone else's I have the right to not show them what I don't want to if I don't agree with something I will not show it to my child its my right to do so no? So who are you to tell me how to raise my child? Who are you to say my child isn't free? Are you implying they can only be free by being exposed to all ideas? Then who are you to decide what they should and shouldn't see? Only I their parent decide that until they're old enough to decide for themselves, who are you to not only expose them to something without my consent but also encourage them to indulge in it without me knowing? Keep to yourself and I will keep to myself
@@I-like-cows do you have any issue with your children seeing a man and a woman on a date at a restaurant, or holding hands, or kissing, or showing romantic affection, or dating in a book at school? if not, why do you have a problem when its two men or two women? Teaching your children to hate is horrible. I'm not saying you can't do it fuck knows i cant stop you, but you should have some moral qualms about what you're saying???
the left is not trying to teach kids how to gay, not trying to teach them about gay sex any younger than straight sex. it's simply "these people exist, they are normal, they are people, they are human." to avoid hate. there is a ridiculous amount of hate and violence out of pure ignorance and fear/hatred of the unknown. Teaching your children "these people are shameful, dont go near them, we dont like them" spreads into their classrooms, imagine a child with gay parents- what if your child hears about that. how would you want them to respond??? trying to keep children away from it leads to confusion, fear and hate.
To that woman saying that she is being diminished because of trans women because babies: There are cis women who don't think that you're a real mother because you had c-sections.
Just live your life, girl, and let other people live theirs.
Hell, cis women are pretty nasty to other cis women who are infertile.
That could be a real insecurity that she's projecting about. Doesn't make any of what she's saying okay, but it's possible that's where it's coming from.
I'm a cis woman who is deliberately childless. Do I "diminish" womanhood, too?
If other people's existence threatens her, she isn't much of a person to begin with.
Nobody thinks that sweetheart....
@@thetruepatriot7733i had a woman say to my face i was a bestard because my mother had me via c-section, and that she wasn't a real mom because "she took the easy way"
So yeah, from personal experience, there's really people out there in the world who think that sadly
Oh my God.... I'm a 30yrold cis woman and haven't had kids or breastfed because I am incapable of carrying a child because of my disabilities..... Guess I'm not a woman. 🤦🏼♀️
Come on, you know that is not what it means. Use some common sense. Humans are born with 2 arms and two legs and so on, however, a child born with one arm or one leg is STILL HUMAN. So even though you cant have children, you are still an adult human female. Women who are a certain age, going through menopause, cannot have children either, still women. Transwomen, however, NEVER had the capasity for producing eggs, something only the female of the species can do. The male of the species produce sperm. That is pure biological fact. Intresex people also produce only eggs or sperm.
@@67jadeIf you don't produce reproductive material, are you not a man or woman? If you're born without a penis, are you still a man? You can't just go with reproductive ability as a basis for man or womanhood.
the comparison of arm and human thing is weird, we’re not talking abt whether or not someone is human we’re talking gender, something that from MULTIPLE health sites has been proven to be more so internal rather than external “that is a pure biological fact”(you). “Gender identity is how you feel and identify, and can be as a female, male, or both. Gender is typically assigned at birth, based on a baby having the outward appearance (genital organs) of either a male or a female as per a social construct of a binary system of two genders (male or female).
If your gender identity matches the gender assigned to you at birth, this is called cisgender. For example, if you were born biologically as a male, and you identify as a man, you are a cisgender man.
Transgender refers to identifying as a gender that is different from the biological gender assigned when you were born. For example, if were born biologically female and were assigned a female gender, but you feel a deep inner sense of being a man, you are a transgender man.(Medline plus) do u disagree with science?
@@67jadeThere's cis women that were born entirely infertile, as it happens, be it due to hormone or structural abnormalities, genetic disorders or what have you. Some can be treated, others cannot. Are the ones that were assigned female at birth, yet born never capable of conceiving, no longer women, then?
You can drop the mental gymnastics, they don't make things any easier for anyone.
@@67jadeand women born without functional gametes then?
Some random girl told me last week that she wouldn't date me because I'm a trans boy and that'd make her gay and she doesn't wanna be a "gross homosexual". Of course she added that she wasn't transphobic and all and that it was just not "her typa thing to do" after saying such stuff 💀 These kinda people don't even think about that maybe trans people wouldn't even wanna date them
Says homo/transphobic things "I swear im not homo/transphobic!"
@@Sillymonroll True
I hope you told her you wouldn't date her on a bet.
@@realMacMadame Yes I did :D
My best friend asked "if I like you, does it mean I'm no longer gay, but bisexual?"
I'm FtM... It felt horrible.
As a trans person who is currently dating another trans person, yes, I would definitely date a trans person.
I love ur username haha😂
@@unicornglitzer Haha thank you!
Same!!! T4T relationships are great because of the shared experience.
@@bliss5297 I completely agree
I'm also in a T4T relationship and I love it so much! He's a sweetheart and we can bond deeper because dysphoria isn't something that cis people understand.
I can't get over this woman who's like, "I've been misgendered a lot, and I'm fine, stop whining." Sweetie, you are not fine.
She's so creepy in how she speaks and chooses her words. Almost as if she's ai. How she says, "one is not supposed to..." Like, as if she's avoiding using any pronouns at all. The way she moves and wants others to not "whine" or have human emotions or human reactions. That's it. She has turned me into a conspiracy nut. I'm convinced she's an alien robot and is on the mission to remove human feelings from earth and nothing will change my mind and it wouldn't surprise me if she started sparking and saying beep-boops in her future vids.
@@SadPandalorian It's like a mash up of Elizabeth "Theranos Fraud" Holmes and a female Patrick Bateman.
What woman?
@@SadPandalorian omg it isn't just me!
@@Worlds-Collide the one at 20:00
What some people don‘t seem to understand is: It‘s perfectly fine if you are not attracted to a trans person because they are trans, attraction is subjective. As long as you are not trying to force that onto other people, that‘s fine. It becomes weird once you‘re trying to justify that feeling by misgendering them.
It will be great when trans people can transition to a point where we have all the "expected" biological functions of our gender because the transphobes will become really obvious and we won't have to have these stupid conversations anymore. I don't care if people don't want to date trans people, but I hate how easily that view can be used to hide transphobia
Define misgendering, because if you can tell someone was born a woman for an example & said excuse me mam, but they turn out to be a trans female aka man, is it really misgendering? Then what if they cuss you out? You have the right not to pretend to be blind.
First of all one small correction: You are talking about a trans man. Someone who was assigned female gender at birth but identifies as male.
Second, if you call them a gender that they don't identify as, that is misgendering. If it is an honest mistake (because for example they are pre-transition) then it's not great because gender disphoria is a thing, but it's also not a big deal.
The moment one does that intentionally one becomes the asshole.
@@besserwizard
Guess what? If you're born as a female, you'll die as a female, nothing can & ever will change that, no matter what you identify yourself as. If God wanted a female to be a male, he would've made them a male, but in reality he made them a female, nothing can & nothing will ever change that. If you're born as a female, I'm going to call you a female, I refuse to pretend like you're something you're not. If a trans male aka biologically a female put hands on a man, that trans better not start crying, "I'm a female", since they want to identify as a male
@@DarrenReddix-mf4eeUsually the conversation with me (and most trans people I'm aware of) is:
"Excuse me, sir?"
"Oh, um, I'm a woman."
"Oh! My mistake."
"It's alright, I understand. Is there something you needed?"
And then the conversation moves on. It's not some social faux pas to misgender by mistake, it's only a problem when you keep going. Most people are abundantly aware if they don't pass yet.
I had someone on Facebook say they didn't think gender affirming care for children was a good idea, because they are a cis woman and dressed "masculine" as a kid (standard), she then said that what people should do is just let kids figure themselves out, let them dress however they want, go by new names if they want and see if they still feel trans after a few years of that.
Like, dude, that is trans affirming care for kids (or a large part of it, at least), that's literally what we're asking for
Yeah, sounds like that lady didn't know the difference between affirmation and surgery, and jumped straight to the conclusion of kids being operated on
@@maysee2515 unfortunately, and fortunately, we'd have a lot more allies if people knew the actual truth and not the propaganda.
Hopefully it should mean we can counter act it, but propaganda is hard
Yep, like do these people hear themselves? They will literally argue against gender affirming care while describing gender affirming care. It's just pathetic.
That isn’t trans affirming care??? It’s letting ur child dress how they want
@@littlemoon4386 (edit: your reply just talks about clothing, my original comment mentioned several more things, my reply here has assumed you meant all the things I mentioned)
for young children, that's a large part of trans affirming care, alongside therapy.
The only pills kids might get access to, and it's quite rare, is puberty blockers and weirdly those only get prescribed once kids are about to go through puberty not kids who are under 10, and surgery is practically non existent for any kids, certainly not until they're like 16 at the earliest and even then it's vanishingly rare.
Unlike the anti trans propaganda would have you believe, no one is performing surgery or giving hormones to 6 year olds.
And while we're at it, it's certainly not fast tracked, I've known people who've gone through the system, you're looking at about 5 years before you even see an NHS prescribed hormone.
I told my boyfriend that if he were trans, I’d never date him.
Then he had the NERVE to remind me that we are both trans men.
UH!?
How RUDE of hime!
I can't believe how hypocritical and rude he was.
So rude
Such a rude accusation!!! I would NEVER suspect someone to be a trans man!!!! How dare they be so rude and “cisphobic”…
read mirriam grossmans book, "lost in trans nation" they lied to you
13:15 I am a trans woman. I have never unironically said “slay” like that.
Anyways, being a woman means I don’t want to kill myself for being a man.
2:05 actually, it’s pretty normal for the first thought an Arkansas senator has about a woman to be about her genitals regardless of gender assigned at birth.
That's funny but dark but true.
NAWWW
The violation💀
Remember people if you would never ask a straight cis person about their genitals or question their sexuality then DON'T ASK SOMEONE THAT IS TRANS THAT.
Edit: It's odd that people are cherry picking this comment. If you are pursing a romantic relationship then obviously that is a completely different scenario but if you just met somebody or your talking to them and they tell you their trans and your first thought is to ask them about their genitals like the polition in this video did? Then yes that is a problem and you should not do that.
Just don't ask ANYONE that!!!
Aye just don’t ask anyone that in general if you don’t want to be a fuckin weirdo
It's a microaggression. It's a way of saying, "I already consider you a second class citizen, so if I want to invade your privacy, you'd better tell me." It's analogous to how POC are often approached with, "Lemme touch your hair."
NOT ACIDIC
If someone asked me that, I'd turn it around and ask why they're fantasising about my genitals.
Old conservative dudes won't change their mind, but you can humiliate them.
"Think of the children" is almost always a self callout of "I don’t understand/trust this minorty and I don’t want kids around them to develop trust for this minority because of my own fear and lack of understanding."
that's such a wonderful way to put it. thnx I'm quoting this
Best way to word it I've found so far!
It's all scapegoating. They couldn't care less about anyone else's children. It's the old blame-a-minority-to-gain-control trick.
exactly! that’s a great way to phrase it. /gen
"Think of the children" but it's fine for them to be exposed to a game with war and violence like CoD. Okie dokie
ive been constantly excluded from the definition of a 'woman' because of my PCOS, and then phobes get pissed when i identify as genderqueer 💀
@@fishkeeper3799 take the L bozo
You're not a woman
@@julia2k8accidental ally? Lmao
@@pancake8180 what...
@@julia2k8 they did indeed state they are genderqueer. So "you are not a woman" is a correct statement
I'm trans, and I'm completely immune to misgendering or deadnaming. I was able to archive that by realising my gender identity is intrinsic, doesnt require people validating it, no matter what they might think, it's not gonna change who I am. I see a lot of people who suffer from gender dysphoria mistake this with social intolerance and open themselves up to mental distress as a result. Proper therapy is what's needed here. Developing skills to draw one's own value from within not from the outside. Low self-esteem issues are very common amongst young trans people.
The better question is “Would a Trans person date me?” Like, do I foster a safe and loving environment for self expression??
❤ that is a lovely well worded answer and I love it
oh shit that's deep
What a good question. Thank you for adding that to this discussion
now THATS the question.
Interesting perspective thanks.
“They’ll punish people for expressing their opinion”
Their opinion: blatant transphobia
the punishment: being called an asshole
When I hear that kind of thing I'm like "hate isn't an opinion it's just hate"
Even if it was opinion (which it's not, it's just hate), their freedom of speech is not being violated. They had the right to say whatever they wanted. However freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences.
If I work for Apple, and I make a post that gets millions of views about why android is better than apple, then Apple decides not to renew my contract, has my freedok of speech been violated? No. I had the freedom to say whatever I wanted, and now I have the freedom to face the consequences of what I said.
@@willowwhisps1339 good analogy, "you have the freedom to say that, but I also have the freedom to fire you, bye"
It's funny how they never want it to apply in reverse. If your opinion is the opposite of theirs, they're not out here saying that you should just be allowed to say it, free of criticism or consequences. They're all too happy to shout others down.
I want to see a trans person asking if they would date. "Would you date me?" "Yes". "Would you date a trans woman?" "No". "Oh so I guess you wouldn't date me after all then." and walk away
I'd also want to see a cis person doing that.
@@TaylorUmongusHas you mean a normal person
@@julia2k8Cis _IS_ "normal". It's just an adjective--it describes someone who confirms to the gender they were born with. Cis isn't a slur, or weird description, either. The term has been used in science for hundreds of years. It's from Latin & means "on this side". "Trans" is the opposite & means "on the other side". That's it. It's really that simple.
@@DrachenGothik666 some people don't want to be called "cis", why don't you respect that?
@@julia2k8 Because there's no real reason to not want to be called cis other than transphobia, and I (like a **normal** person) don't respect those views.
"Soon we'll have kids in schools identifying as horses!!"
If Piers Morgan ever encountered a therian I think his head would explode
but he wasn't wrong? Pandoras box hath been opened
"Would you date a trans woman?"
"No"
"Why not?"
"Because I'm a gay man."
Not funny
@@Timberwoodx yes funny
@@Timberwoodx Very funny
😄 yes funny, Good answer
yes funny
the fact everyone in that meeting immediately went “EUUUHH WH EWWW UHHHH EUUUGHHH.???” in shock of such an inappropriate question has me rolling laughing i hope that senator’s heart dropped and he feels eternally embarrassed for that
Pretty sure he doesn’t. He doesn’t see most of the people in that room as human, so doesn’t see their response as anything but validation that he successfully “triggered the woke.”
He's a politician. None of them have any shame and thus experience no embarrassment.
while i recognize how disturbingly inappropriate the comment was its the little things that count
@violeth2255 bet he'd turn beet red if they asked if he was circumcised and dimensions though
@user-vw1yz3cb3l no one is doing what you are claiming.
Piers morgan, I can't identify as a horse or a penguin, just as much as you can't identify as someone who has a brain.
I’m stealing this
@@thetotallyrealsusie
this is the funniest shit i’ve seen all day
Look, if someone's a furry, I'm not gonna question it. But I don't know why we're even listening to someone who self identifies as a journalist.
Transphobes: Oh, it's just about the kids, keep them out of it. Stop s3xual1z1ng them.
Also transphobes:
- Beauty pageants for LITERAL TODDLERS
- The cheerleaders uniforms they designed for minors
- Casually talking about how cute/hot/other term their BABIES will be when they grow up.
The list can go on for a while, but yall get the point. 😕
not to mention a lot of...VERY questionable clothing text for literal babies. Like the "i only date models" and other weird shit on infant onesies x-x
Gwen is a highly respected Pharmacist in central Arkansas. Her pharmacy is a hub for trans and gnc people, and even regularly hosts name/gender marker/birth certificate change events. She’s an icon. And how she was treated on the floor of the AR senate was infuriating.
Her pharmacy has been ensuring to have plan B available after Roe v. Wade was overturned. That was my family’s main pharmacy growing up, and I’m so glad to know that it’s in good hands now with Gwen and her team!
I was stunned by his utter lack of decorum. You don't ask people about their genitals. Infuriating indeed.
I used to work at a pharmacy and I didn’t know a more boring job could exist. So for someone to be a pharmacist and actually enjoy it and excel in it deserves respect by itself. In all seriousness though. I’m a supporter of trans rights and any person rights so much respect for that as well.
sounds like a good pharmacy to never visit, luckily i don't live in arkansas
The way she was treated was absolutely disgusting, she’s a saint of a woman. Even some of the other bigots on the floor knew he went to far and I feel so bad she had to deal with that.
I wouldn't not date someone solely for being trans. I wouldn't date someone solely for being trans either though.
Agreed as someone dating a trans girl. I love my girlfriend but not because she is trans but because I just love her as a person.
Well, you know, just like it usually happens with... people.
The solution to most of transphobia is "treat trans people like people" but apparently that's too much to ask in some cases.
@@cicalinarrot100% this.
Exacly if someone rather date me for my genitals instead of my Personality then thats a huge red flag and they shouldn't date anyone no matter cis or trans.
I probably wouldn't date a trans person, because of my sexuality.
I hope that doesn't mean I'm transphobic tho.
My father and I disagree on many things, but he said something one time about free speech that I just thought was such a good, succinct way of putting it:
“I am not infringing on your freedom of speech by telling you to shut up. I am merely exercising my own.”
Honestly, I get it, but it's not correct. People like to abuse the freedom of speech argument a lot but forget that while you can say a lot, you can't say anything and upon facing repercussions for it claim "it's freedom of speech!"
Freedom of speech can't exist without consequences, but yet whenever someone who is transphobic or homophobic experiences backlash, they are quick to say their right to freedom of speech is taken away.
No: you just experienced you can't just say everything you want and get away with it without any effects, just like I can't.
To the woman at 18:35 who smugly told the misgendered trans woman that she wasn't "strong enough" to be a woman after being misgendered: every girl and woman has gone through situations where another person (often a man) has made them uncomfortable, and they could not respond in the moment. Maybe they had the freeze response, or maybe they wanted to clap back in response, but they knew that if they stood up for themselves then they might be murdered. Instead of feeling superior to a trans woman who is being vulnerable on tiktok, maybe sympathize with her. And if this cis woman has been misgendered before and she's bringing it up like this, then of course it affected her. She's not better than the trans woman who was misgendered and upset by it.
Except I don't think she's being honest... "I'm 30 but people call me 70" major doubt you mid 20s looking basic b*
I'm a ciswoman and I just DO NOT get the gatekeeping. I've had kids. My sister hasn't. Does that make me a woman and my sister not? No! So why is it any different for transwomen? Oh yeah... IT'S NOT! It makes me so mad.
Yes! And: If you call trans women women, then I, a (cis) woman is insulted. How? How does this in anyway pertain to you? Do you have Main Character Syndrome?
Exactly! Everyone can decide for themselves. I don't want children either, and that doesn't make me any less of a woman. Her mindset is so f*cking toxic for trans people and people who are infertile (or maybe even trying to get kids) or people that adopt kids. It's wonderful for her, that she has this experience to birth and raise kids, so I don't get why she has to play a "But what about MEEE?!"--card when another person is just talking about their experience?
it‘s also just plain insulting far ANY woman of any age… I‘m cis and every attempt to exclude trans women from womanhood I have come across so far minimizes the female experience, excludes various cis women as well and reduces the live and worth of women to our reproductive capabilities and/or our experience of oppression/our pain… thx, I hate it. also, just let people BE please 🙄
From a childless person with 2 lovely nephews by their sister - THANK YOU!! ❤❤
Transwomen can have kids. We have food babies then we flush it were all dead beats
Trans Girl: "I'm trans"
Some dude: "do you have a penis?"
Trans Girl: "Do YOU?"
Some dude: "Of course!"
Trans Girl: "could have fooled me."
Lol so true. Reminds me of the Vazquez quote from Aliens.
Dude: Hey Vazquez have you ever been mistaken for a man.
Her: No. Have you?
Well then, spit it out, it doesn't belong to you.
The some dude is trans
@@johnhipp8267LMAOOOO
I audibly went ''OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH'' at this in the middle of the night
2:44 - Lady just said, “Having a d_ck doesn’t make you a man, and I mean that in more ways than one.”
Btw, for y’all who don’t get it:
• sex ≠ gender ; so you can have one but not be man (gender)
• “be a man” means that they have dignity in their gender as a ‘manly man’; but she’s saying his stupid inappropriate question made him ‘less of a man’
This is what I hate about modern sexualism. People want to be a man/girl/whatever so bad. Fitting into old stereotypes instead of being themselves. If you think somebody is not feminine/masculine/cis enough, good for you. Rush on and date somebody else. But of course those poeple are pointed out "you. I don't like you." Attacked verbally and physically. So I have problems with both as both types just strive for living inside a box of stereotyping.
@@paulgoogol2652 Ok, while I would desperately would want to agree with you, can I ask 2 simple things?
1. Who was being massively inappropriate and insanely creepy with as an adult human being obsessed over the genitals of another adult human being they had no intention of being intimate with?
2. Who made those stereotypes and who feels it's their day job to point out to us that we do not fit into them, never will, or when we do a little bit to well think they need to keep reminding us of what "we actually are, and who we are "louring in to being deceived"?
This is not modern sexuality, this has existed for decades, but you are only now thinking it's a problem because of how more prominent trans-voices have become.
@@Dutch3DMaster 1.... "had no intention of being intimate with". I admire your naivity, young people. Yes it is just this obsession with sex that troubles me. So maybe this has to be issued as people are inherent creeps of doom.
@@Dutch3DMaster You are probably right. Humanity is just absurdly sex driven and there is no point in denying it.
The overwhelming majority of society agree with you, that sex is not equal gender, and respect that. So why is the trans community pushing so hard to get into sex-segregated spaces, like sports teams and bathrooms and sororities, and then acting like you don't understand why there is such a backlash?
I'm a cis guy who recently came out as pansexual so I'm cool with dating any gender identity but when I still identified as straight I matched with a trans woman on a dating app and had a whole internal conversation on whether it was somewhat gay if I dated someone who had a penis. I realized most of my concerns came from worrying about how other people would percive me because I was definitely attracted to the trans woman but it still brought up a lot of internalized homophobia. We didn't end up dating but fast forward a couple years and shortly after coming out I started dating a trans man and I had sorta the opposite internal conversation of "Is this fully gay since he hasn't had bottom surgery?" Then i had some doubt of my own sexuality and after being with a cis man and a trans woman I realized for me it still feels more gay to be with a trans man than a trans woman regardless of the genitalia situation. I definitely still have a lot to learn about sexuality and gender identity but it's been very eye opening experience to explore my sexuality. I still have a lot of prejudice to unpack and ideas to unlearn but I'm very happy that being trans is becoming more socially acceptable, we still have a long way to go as a culture but we have made a lot of progress and I truly believe I'll live to see the day where sexuality and gender identity aren't hot button issues and people can live their lives without fear of persecution.
Would you date a Trans person?
Yes. I honestly do not care if they're Cis or Trans, if i like them i like them. Thats that
Love is love ❤
@@SaraHeartlin Exactly
@@damiangash6209Straight people can be attracted to trans people. Gay people can be attracted to trans people.
Saying they can feel attraction to trans people does not automatically make them pan.
@@damiangash6209I'm gay, not pan
Not acidic (if you get that joke I'm proud of you)
To offset the transphobia, here is a heartwarming story from Comic-Con this year:
I went as Kiki from Kiki’s Delivery Service. There was a little (trans) girl who was also dressed like Kiki, and she seemed a little self-conscious about her costume. Her dad got so excited when he saw me and said “See! There’s another person dressed like Kiki!”
I said hi and complimented her outfit and she seemed to relax a little, and anyway it just warmed my heart to see such a supportive father!
Oh now I want to see that cos play, I love that anime 😊
What a great movie!
Omg as a trans kid thank you so much for supporting us
Absolutely adorable!!
@@Robin_hood.100"thank you so much for making up a story in ChatGPT" ftfy
Just as there are many flavors of cis people, there are many flavors of trans people. Many trans people are very attractive and often conform to typical gender aesthetics. This “would not date a trans person” thing happens because of fear and ignorance within our culture.
i'd rather not date a guy playing dress up and have to enter my home wondering if ill see a new decoration hanging but thats just me
I think often times, people say "I'm not attracted to trans women" but that's not entirely what they mean. They may still feel attracted to let's say a trans women that looks & presents feminine in every way.
It kinda has the same energy as women who say "all men are trash" while dating a man and having a good relationship.
Or when a transphobe says they hate pronouns. This is the silliest one of them all.
@@user-to2wn9ry7y What these other people meant was that you might still be attracted to trans women whose had surgery and hormones until they look nothing like a male and have a body externally identical to cis women. Cruz in that case the only differences she'll have are chromosomes and reproductive ability.
Though I agree about the education thing. There's always gonna be people subconsciously seeing differences between trans and cis people of a gender. It's all good though. As long as you still respect them and their gender identities.
@@trevorchester4439 you’re more unstable than any trans person I’ve ever met
@@snake1844 trans women aren’t “guys playing dress up”, they are women
“Well I identify as a horse” Wait till they find out about therians and nonhumans (not an LGBT identity but an identity none the less)
That creepy woman explaining that the trans lady is "too weak to be a woman" and saying that "real women stand up for themselves" is accidentally really affirming my gender over here. Clearly I'm too weak and baby to be cis. 😂
Yeah she gave big terf energy
“Trans women are too weak to be women because they don’t stand up for themselves.”
*gestures to Marsha P. Johnson, a trans woman who led the charge for LGBTQIA+ rights for herself and others, as well as other trans women who were on the front line*
I'm a cis woman and she made me so uncomfortable, like go away with your shitty opinions and your uncanny valley face somewhere else lady. Idk what kind of misogyny is she on, but it's wild af.
Bro fr im cis and i usually would just be like “thank you 🙂” bc i couldnt tell them im a girl when they misgender me but i still say thank you bc its a compliment but i dont like confrontation and my biggest fear is going to court ugh, but her saying that shes too weak to be a female was so confusing like huuuh, that makes no sense bc im cis and “too weak” so she probably think i dont exist LOL!
Edit: srry i talk a LOT, but talking a lot is good so if you talk a lot and youre reading this just know that you are just as cool as everyone else incase youre kinda insecure abt it like me
seriously!! her face smiling while saying that stuff just makes me feel so uncomfortable
“Would you date a trans person?”
I don’t know, are they my type? Do we get along? Do we share the same humor? Are they kind? Do they like dogs?
I don’t care about who you were before, i care about who you are now as long as you are happy with yourself.
Yeah, my answer to that is "is she cute? Is she nice? Does she like cats, cuddles, and a good book? Does she like me?"
It's like asking "would you date a person with blue eyes?" like, that's not a disqualifying factor if that's what the question is, but that's not a specific trait I'm seeking out either.
no i wont. im not gay
@@ChuckBeenKinky91 That reply doesn't make sense. "Would you date a tall person?" "No, I'm not gay". "Would you date a bisexual?" "No, I'm not gay".
@@Liggliluff So a man dating a biological man isnt gay?
Regular reminder that you're all awesome, beautiful and valid little spuds, just the way you are ❤🧡💛💚💙💜 Love you all ❤🧡💛💚💙💜
Maybe it's because I'm old, non-binary, had gender dysphoria for the longest time, am pansexual, or have a many loved ones that are trans...but the question 'Would you date/sleep with a trans person!?' always irks me the wrong way.
I never got it. My answer; Yes, and I have in the past. It's like for the person asking, being 'trans' is being less of a human...
I do understand that people have preferences that they cannot change, BUT there's a respectful way to share it...and there's transphobia.
Nearly 2 decades ago I had a lesbian friend who was hit on by a trans woman. They clicked and it was going smoothly, but she straight-forwardly cut it off and said she could only be friends when she learned she was pre-op trans. At first I was really put off by it, but she explained to me that she simply 'couldn't do with penises'. She also told me 'I may sincerely fall in love with her, but I would never be able to love 100% of her, and she deserve to be loved wholly' and I understood.
Of course it's okay to not be attracted to certain genders and biology...but don't be awful about it.
Someone tried to call my friend transphobic because he said he wouldn't date a trans woman, without realizing my friend is a gay man. Lmao
Ugh, I got called transphobic by someone who pointed at my best friend (knowing he's trans) and asked me I'd date him. I replied "No he's..." and got cut off with a very accusatory "a WOMAN?!?!? You're transphobic!!!!". Like no, because he's like a brother to me. I'm also trans, and my partner is trans, but because I don't want to date my best friend apparently I'm transphobic.
Jamie: “A state Senator! This is a very professional setting!”
Me, and American who’s been watching our politics for years: 😳😳😳
Arkansas, self-explanatory.
Shhh, don't ruin his immersion
Yep, now they are resorting to elbows to the kidneys! Professional wrestling, maybe.
I wish I could have as much faith in congress as he does haha
where's bernie when you need him 🤌
ok with the COD one, how is it appropriate for kids to play a game where they shoot people but not for kids to know people exist
actual conversation i ha on the internet (we were by no means friends, we interacted in the same discord server once or twice before that)
him: "you can't change your gender, you know, right?"
me: "i know, i tried being a woman and failed miserably"
him: "so you were born a guy?"
me: "are you really asking me about my genitals? isn't that a bit private?"
him: "yes cause now I'm confused which gender you are"
me: "i'm agender. i don't have a gender. that's all you need to know"
him: "so you were born a dude????"
so many chances he could've had to save it and he missed all of them...
My friend liked turning the tables on people who asked questions like that.
“Do you have a penis?”
“Why? You interested?”
And watch them backpedal so hard it’s hilarious.
Gotta go the extra length, start asking super invasive questions about it too like if it's cut or uncut, the length, the length to girth ratio, make it extra weird.
@@darkshadowrule2952 what makes it hilarious is that she’s so quiet most of the time but holy hell is she sarcastic and blunt.
Will not hesitate to throw an insult right back and twist it to make YOU look like the weirdo.
For example…
Someone asked her what she did in the bathroom (asking whether it not she sat to pee)
And she, loud as can be in a CLASSROOM FULL OF PEOPLE, said
And I quote
“why the fuck do you wanna know what I do in the bathroom so bad? Are you into that weird shit? Cuz I ain’t!”
I’ve never seen a teenage boy go red so fast.
I remember one of the streamers I watch getting asked a question like that in her chat a while ago, and at the time she had only recently become an adult so she was like ‘why are you talking about my penis, I’m barely 18, don’t be a creep’
Dont let them backpedal either just keep pushing the fact that they're interested
@@ElectricCommunism whats makes it hilarious is when others joined in and ragged on him too.
If I weren’t married and old, I’d date an awesome human,
If they were trans and wonderful.
I love how her friend called out the senator and flattened him.
I appreciate you and your kindness as well as strictly dealing with transphobia and sexuality in general. As an advocate for others that identify as LGBTQIA, including family and friends, I hope to continue learning. Your videos have helped me check myself and be a better n supporter. Thank you!
Thank you for being awesome
Thank you! You seem like nice people 😊
There's something cute about the way you said "others with LGBTQIA" like queerness is an accessory.
@@spooniejusticewarrior I think I should’ve said others of…
Hope I didn’t offend. Namaste
@@RebeccaOsterbergFamilyandMusic not at all! Made me giggle
When they ask about my genitials i turn it around on them and ask "Are ypu circumsized? How long? Girth? Doesnit dangle left or right" apparently thats inappropriate...
@user-vw1yz3cb3lno one is “trying to fool” anyone.
As a cis woman who had a hysterectomy (for medical reasons), and is aroace, listening to these people defining a "real" woman is always surreal to me, because most of the time they end up excluding _many_ cis women, such as myself. When they can define women in a way that doesn't exclude people they would totally consider women, then they can claim it has a simple definition on their side (albeit, not fully correct as it excludes trans women and includes trans men and enbies who were afab), but at least they would be _consistent._
Instead they equate a uterus or menstruation or motherhood with womanhood and that means girls are women (they aren't, they are girls), anyone with a hysterectomy isn't a woman anymore, any infertile woman is no longer a woman, anyone post-menopause or pre-menarche or dealing with amenhhorea isn't a woman, anyone who chose not to have kids or simply hasn't had them yet isn't a woman, anyone who is unmarried isn't a woman, ... it is just ridiculous how they limit the concept of "woman" in their attempts to be transphobic. It is so fun to gotcha them on this, because my reason for my hysterectomy was cancer, and it makes them backpedal so fast when dealing with the "why don't you have kids?" people.
Also, I wouldn't date a trans person but I wouldn't date a cis person either. I don't date, because I am the sort of aroace who tried dating before I figured it out, didn't get anything out of it, and now I don't date and haven't for over a decade. I would totally hang out and get lunch or dinner, and be friends, though. I would also pretend to be dating someone to keep creeps away from them.
As someone who’s dating a trans girl (2 months today actually 😁), I have never seen her as less of a human or disrespect her for not being able to fully transition yet. Stuff like this makes me so mad about people who just refuse to listen to people just because they are “trans”. People are people, I love my gf, everybody else can shut up.
Edit: Y’all are so sweet thanks for the congrats on our anniversary ❤️
Happy two month anniversary to both of you ❤🏳️⚧️❤️
@@Starhawke_Gaming Thank you so much 🙏🙏
Congrats on 2 months🥳❤
Happy anniversary ❤
Congrats on the 2 month anniversary! I wish you two many more years together (:
My go-to response for "Do you have a penis?" is always going to be "Do you have a brain?"
If you think that asking me insulting questions is OK, you can't be mad if I respond in kind.
Ok, I'm using this lmao
For that politician, they're the same thing.
Is there ever a situation when you think it is okay to ask?
sometimes I like to just respond with "Why? do you want to see it"
That’s a good one
3:40 reminds me of a Vine that goes
"I'm not racist, but Mexicans are kinda icky"
"THAT IS EXTREMELY RACIST"
I'm not transphobic but trans people are pretty confusing to me and your explanations help me understand
I would Definitely date a Trans person!! ❤🏳️⚧️
🥲🏳️⚧️
same here!
My bf is trans so me too
i want someone to date me :((
@@damiangash6209 wdym? Straight pepole can date trans pepole
That first video is my whole issue with Transphobia. It's amazing how these people have no issue trying to "show up" a trans person by talking about their genitals. Then in the same breathe want to say that trans people are trying to hurt children. One person was existing and the other is trying to figure out someone's junk. So WHO'S THE PERVERT?!?!. I say it's the nasty person who is sitting around thinking about stranger's junk. I really think the way to stop the majority of these AHs is to call them out every time. Call them what they are, perverts. I think someone like that state senator would think twice if someone tells them that their actions are completely perverted.
Yep. I once got called a pedophile by someone because I refused to show her my genitals...I was 14, she was an adult. It was disgusting.
@@waffles3629 I'm so sorry that happened. *hugs*
Nobody is more pre occupied with children's genitals than conservatives
The pedophile accusations are the P in Gaslight, Obstruct, Project
As an aroace person I would never date a trans person, but that's because I wouldn't date... anyone. :o
Transphobes fail to realise, is not about transing other people, its about autonomy of the SELF.
If a room full of people gasp collectively gasp in horror you know you shouldn't be asking the question.
Rude! How could he not be offended when you try to offend him? Break up with him immediately! 😂😂
Random but once my mom was saying how "it's super easy to tell if someone is trans like you can see it" and i showed her a picture of Jammie to prove her wrong and she actually agreed that she was wrong ^^
She was probably only referring to trans amab people because most transphobes forgot that trans men/enbies exists
@@Slayyyaphinelol true
@@Slayyyaphinetheres a lot of passing trans women and non passing trans men though
Some trans pass and some don't. That's just the luck of the draw. The first time I ever saw a jamie video I guessed he was trans. Most of the time it's the voice that gives it away.
@@SuperJJParker he just seems British
Would I date trans? I do not and will not ever judge a person on assigned gender, I would date on the merit of character every time over what a doctor decided 30 seconds after birth.
The woman in the video at 18:30 has such an annoyingly smug aura about her. The way she's talking you can almost feel her staring down her nose at this poor trans girl.
Man*
I have been on a date with a trans guy - it started me thinking more deeply about what signifies a man to me (as a cis gay man), and my attitudes, hence being here.
I found myself wondering whether it would matter if we dated and it turned out he had not had lower surgery, and how relevant the various physical ‘typical’ aspects of ‘manhood’ are to my core attraction toward other men; and indeed what constitutes a man to my primitive brain.
The answer I came to is ‘I’m not sure yet’, but if handled with a bit of thought, kindness and sensitivity, I reckon these things can be navigated in a way that respects all our differences, core needs and experiences.
Wow! I appreciate your commitment to being open minded and explore differences in people, and your statement that you want to handle it with kindness! ❤
Your openness and rationality are truly refreshing.
As a trans guy, i think it's totally fine not being attracted to someone because their surgeries, or really any reason whatsoever. We can't choose who we're attracted to and why. For some people even something like a certain haircolour or voice can be a turnoff. It's completely logical that a person's genitals can be something important for attraction. It's fine if you don't wanna date someone because they're trans, it's only a problem if you start disrespecting them in normal day to day life, like misgendering them or treating them different from other friends. Attraction is important for dating and isn't something we can change, but it isn't important for platonic or professional relationships. And not being attracted to someone doesn't make that person any less of a man. He's just a man that isn't attractive to you. We aren't attracted to every person in our lives after all, regardless of gender. It's basically the same as being turned off because someone's junk size or height. Is it superficial? Maybe. But most physical attraction is. And thats fine. You might not date someone with a small dick or certain stature, but it doesn't stop you from being friends with them and respecting them.
Summed up: it's fine not being attracted to someone for whatever reason you have. It's better to stay as friends than to be in a relationship without attraction.
For me im attracted to women. The essence of women and liking trans women was never a question. I like gorl alway.
I'm very happy to hear about your openness! I am a GNC woman who is dating a trans man. It's perfectly fine if you aren't sure if you'd be in a relationship with a trans man or not. I would only suggest communicating that with any trans guy you happen to date, explaining you're open to the possibility but are still learning about it and you just aren't certain yet if it honors your own identity or not. Some trans people are totally open and willing to answer any questions one might have about transitioning, especially if you establish you're an ally and want to learn more. Of course no one is obligated to do so, and on the flipside of that it is many trans people are tired of having to answer everyone's questions or being the one to educate people. my boyfriend came out to me after we had already been dating for a while, but I'm pan so it didn't really impact my attraction or feelings towards him. Before he came out I knew little to nothing about trans people besides one trans girl I went to high school with. Over the years, I've tried to educate myself on trans issues and transitioning in general to try and be as supportive as i can be, but also going to him with questions because every trans person is different, not everyone experiences transitioning the same way.
TLDR; Communication is everything.
In all honesty I wouldn’t mind dating a trans male, I’m asexual, anyone masculine/male presenting is fine with me:)
So do you mean a trans woman whos sex is male which can't be changed or a trans guy?
@@Slayyyaphinei think they mean a trans guy because they said masculine/male presenting, not biologically male
Oh hey same, you worded it well!
@@prageruwu69Trans men are men.
@@flannelsone1159yes
as a person who has never breastfed or had a baby, i can confirm i’ve started growing a beard
Ok, may be a hot take, but I don’t think we should pressure romance on very young children as is. Like exposure is one thing, but the pressure put in children to date or to have a crush can often have a negative effects mentally.
Oh my fucking god yes. Probably took me a few extra years to realize I didn’t feel attraction because of how heavily it was pushed on kids.
@user-vw1yz3cb3l bro has never met a trans person, womp womp
@user-vw1yz3cb3lliterally none of that is remotely true
@user-vw1yz3cb3lnone of what you say has any basis in facts
@user-vw1yz3cb3l there is no “Miss” here. Dr. Raines is a man of science whereas you appear to be scientifically illiterate
funniest thing to me is:
JKR: *creates a world where one of the big messages is "no one should be forced to live in a closet", that's a metaphor for fight against systemic oppression, with many same-sex pairs with high romantic chemistry, a potion that allows you to change completely your appearance.*
fans of that world: *are mostly queer*
JKR: 😱😱😱
LIKE WHAT DID YOU EXPECT????
Right? Like it was hailed as such a metaphor and how the world in the closet with the "normals" was dull and washed out but the world outside the closet with the "just being who they truly are" people is colorful and happy! So many metaphors! What happened here honestly.
It matters not what someone is born, but what they grow to be. It is our choices...that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities. The weapon we have is love.
I don't deny there are other problematic elements in HP, but the overall themes are SO opposed to who she's become/revealed herself to be. _You have fundamentally missed the whole point of your own story._
Also that one time she had a very minor character refusing to wear pants and continuing to wear a dress because he felt more comfortable in it. Sure, it was a joke (he said “I like a healthy breeze around my privates”), but I still cheered him on. Wear what you want, Artie!
@@Okay_Is_Wonderfulyep. It’s honestly hard to even reconcile that the same person who wrote HP is now who JKR is because the main theme of the books are _so_ contrasted with her current views.
Side note, the part in Deathly Hallows when Umbridge is interrogating the Muggle born witch and asking her who she “stole her wand and magic from” because she can’t possibly have gotten her wand like everyone else because “she is not a witch” is literally _exactly_ how TERFs and conservatives refer to trans people, especially trans women. I really don’t know how JKR doesn’t recognize that
@@animeotaku307oh yeah I remember that scene, in Goblet of Fire lol. And he was wearing it in front of a huge crowd of people of i recall lol, and still didn’t change even when the ministry official was insisting on it.
I’m a trans man who is dating another trans man, I’ve actually only dated trans ppl lol
my past relationships have all been t4t too and honestly? it’s so nice being with someone who just gets it
Same here. I’m trans, and I’m also dating someone who is trans. And it’s great to be with someone else who just understands the same thing with you.
I just got your book on audible! I'm enjoying it so much, and I love that it's narrated by you and your wife!
Just remember this, people: sexuality is not a choice or a preference. It is inherent. It is also physical, involving involuntary chemical reactions to specific stimuli. To put it bluntly, some people don't want to be intimate with *anyone* who has a dick, and others want nothing to do with vaginas, regardless of the gender of the wielder. That is not a "genital preference," that is part of their sexuality. They can't change it, and most wouldn't change it if they could.
Second point: if someone doesn't want to date you or have sex with you, that should be the end of the conversation. Their reasons don't matter. No means no. Accusing them of this or that phobia is wheedling, and wheedling is part of rape culture.
But- Counterpoint: If someone is attracted to a person, and later finds out that the person is trans (even post-surgery), saying that they're not attracted to said person *simply because of that* (or even attacking said person, which often happens and is a hate crime) is infact transphobic.
@@katyamcadams If you assault someone because they reveal that they're trans, that's transphobic, but otherwise your example is too broad. If you lose your attraction because they have bits you're not into, NOT transphobic. If they're post-op but you don't like surgically created bits, you're still not transphobic.
Not being attracted to trans people is not the same as hating them.
@@ziweiyuan there is no difference between post op and cis women effectively. You are just a bigot that doesn't want to admit to it.
I would not only date a trans person, but as a cis female, I happen to find the trans men I know almost irresistible, and the trans women glorious and inspiring-regardless, I am horrified that any person is treated with less than respect for any reason other than acts of cruelty against another person. Asking about someone’s private areas in a public forum is much more abusive than informing kids about the existence of LGBTQ+. Creating a false dichotomy of “chaos” vs. sex-as-assigned is is abusive and pedantic. But, most of all, homing in on what you see as the shortcomings of others and using it as reinforcement of your privilege, or pretending to use it in the interest of children or cis women, particularly when it serves your own social cred, is just cheap and childish.
So, you're a lesbiam 🙄
I am a biologic woman. I cannot get pregnant due to PCOS, Endometriosis and uterus fibroids. I identify as Non-Binary as my "gender" when asked. I do not mind female adjectives but I do not feel as if I belong in the binary of woman. If you don't like that I have "Female" DNA yet am not a woman, I don't care and don't need you in my life. But if you are going to talk to me, about me, in my presence, I just ask for respect.
“Female/male DNA” is a misnomer anyway, as there is technically no such thing. A person may have XX or XY chromosomes as part of their genotype, but that doesn’t actually mean that a person is female or male, respectively. About 1 in 20000 cis women have XY chromosomes. Males with XX chromosomes also exist (though they are rarer than XY females). It’s called de la chappelle syndrome, or XX male syndrome.
XX and XY chromosomes are only _associated_ with femaleness and maleness, because usually females have XX chromosomes and usually males have XY chromosomes, but the chromosomes themselves don’t actually have anything to do with whether a person is female or male. Y chromosomes normally carry an SRY gene which will cause a fetus to masculinize, but sometimes it will lack an SRY gene or the gene won’t express, and sometimes an X chromosome can carry an SRY gene.
Advice, 'biological woman' is a transphobic term and also implies gender is biological when its not. AFAB nonbinary is better or female nonbinary
I have pcos too ❤
My son was assumed female at birth. He had what appeared to be female genitalia. From the time he could talk, he told us he was a boy. Oddly, his birth certificate has him as "male," which pushed me to have him further tested. It turns out he is intersex - he has xy chromosomes.
Literally every single thing that is used to say "this is male/female" can be challenged...
*All women are born with a uterus - nope.
*All women have ovaries - nope
*All women have xx chromosomes - nope
*Only men have xy chromosomes - nuh uh
*Only men grow facial hair - nup.
And then when they say, "oh but those people are in the minority," - well, guess what? There's more of them than there are trans people, and no one is screaming that they can't receive necessary medication, and that they're going to cause the downfall of civilisation....
Point being, no, your chromosomes and external physical presentation don't necessarily define your gender...Take care x
that makes you a TRANS woman. People are mad at the BS. Trans man/ woman = man/woman. But bio man/woman = Cis man/woman. Also the BS lies they tell to kids. It is not reverse-bale and it dose have permanent life long affects. The moment they do try to De-trans they will hate you.
For the first video you added, I was in shock! Man, I just got hired for a decently pay remote part time job and the first thing they did before we signed a contract was a meeting where they talk about what counts as sexual harassment and the first thing they said was: there are 3 layers and the first one is just talking about people's bodies in general. Like...wtf! the dude at the senate needs to be fired.
@@trevorchester4439sexual harrassment is often defined as "inappropriate behaviour of a sexual nature that often humiliated, offends, upsets or scares the victim of this behaviour"
- her genitalia is not important this any context, even if the discussion was trans related
- the environment was a clearly professional one and asking such questions is beyond unprofessional
- being asked such a question clearly made her uncomfortable, humiliated and offended, as it would with any person trans or cis
You are a sick pervert defending sexual harrassment. You need therapy
My answer to the title; No. Because I don't like people enough to date them
“Bend to the will of trans people” makes me feel like some kind of trans hypno toad
Reject modernity, embrace Toad 🐸🌈🍥
All glory to the hypnotoad!!
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Love it
That teacher arguing with the transphobe at 10:44 was emotional, but she was RIGHT. Her argument was based in the truth. It annoys me when people try to push a false rivalry between emotion and logic, one doesn't cancel the other out.
Conservatives can't seem to grasp the idea of addressing misogyny in the context of their heteronormative worldview while acknowledging that female anatomy is not exclusive to cisgender women.
Also, that bit about whether she argues with her kids like this... You aren't a child. If a child is saying those things, it is probably out of ignorance or by hearing adults around them say things. You are a grown adult in a government office which implies that you are educated, most likely highly educated and are prepared to discuss topics in an adult manner and deal with the consequences of saying bigoted things.
@@SilverGallowglass Absolutely! Such a manipulative tactic on his part. Besides, teachers will correct and punish students all the time for using bullying or offensive language. Its part of their job to make sure no harm comes to other students.
People who insist it's never about feelings are typically terrified of their own feelings.
That's such a good point! @@SilverGallowglass
I'm a young trans man (17) bisexual, hopefully I have a good relationship in the future.
@@jieren2015what made you comment this? This young man is just expressing his hope for the future, yet you feel the need to reply with a snarky comment - why?
@@jieren2015you first
@@jieren2015your religion is irrelevant
@@jieren2015I’m as tolerant of others as they are of me and mine. Look up “paradox of tolerance”. Your religion has no relevance or power over anyone but yourself.
I'm a bisexual trans man in my mid 20s and I remember being really down in the dumps about this at 17. I thought nobody would want to date me and the only people who would be interested would be interested for the wrong reasons. I told one of my close friends about these feelings. Less than a week later, they asked me out, and we've been together since. I know it can look hopeless now but it will get better.
Watching this with Jamie makes me feel safer.
Bro if you don’t like trans people they probably don’t wanna date you.😭 Some people really think they’re the main character
Main character syndrome is a widespread epidemic
@@mfknbumblebeeusually by cis people.🙄
Hi Jamie
You said "I think it would be great if people could learn and grow"
Actually, that's what happened to me.
I'm from Russia. I live in a conservative society where being gay is viewed as repulsive. When I was growing up, everyone around me was homophobic, transphobic and even denied the need of feminism. Being bisexual, I felt horrible growing up because I had this inner conflict of those views imposed on me and my true feelings. I wanted to understand it, I wanted to learn more. I started speaking to other people about their experiences, I started watching videos (in English of course as it's basically illegal in Russia to speak about LGBTQ+). I became a feminist (though I always felt that women should be treated better, now I share my views with other people who still don't think that feminism is good and I hope to change their minds too). I watched some of your videos where you spoke about your experience or made comments about transphobia and homophobia as well. I thank you for that. You've changed a lot of people. And I'm really happy that you had an impact on my growth too ❤
Im glad you grew as a person ❤
thank you 💕💜💙
Hello from Russia! I'm glad you found your way out of that atmosphere too (even though not fully, new laws are so yucky)
same here!
Very much enjoying this uncensored video, it's so nice to be able to actually hear a video and not be earraped by random silences and spastic noises.
It makes the video *so* much easier to understand the actual words, and the meaning is the same, proving my point that censorship is unequivocally cringe, and completely useless at best, and detrimental in reality.
As a cis straight male that wants to have my own biological children with a partner the answer is no, i would never date a trans woman.
As a cis bisexual woman I would love to be together with a trans woman
Lol it's laughable to me when someone equates being a woman with having periods and babies. A coworker got so mad at me last year because when she was outraged that I take meds to not have periods and she said periods make me a woman, I responded with something along the lines of "fine, according to you I'm not a woman, but I don't care to be one so move on" and that was so triggering for her because how do I dare not care about my womanhood 😂 for context, I'm cis, I just don't give a shit about my sex or gender and I always said that I'm fully happy being a woman but if I magically woke up one day as a guy, I'd be confused for about 5 minutes and then just get me some new clothes and move on. I notice that this approach is bizarre to most other cis people which is why I find some refuge here sometimes because (most) people in trans community have a healthier relationship with the concept of gender and it's refreshing, so hello to whoever made it to the end of this long comment 👋
Hello and that is my mind set as well if I was to get punted in the head by scp-113 while I was sleeping I would probably be confused the only thing I might be disappointed about is that if I'm magically get gender swapped my hair better become straight and long I hate my curly hair so much but other than that I would just continue going about my business as though nothing happened because I always wear a jacket so I am a blue blob and I will continue to be a blue blob
Same to be honest. As a cis guy if I swapped consciousness with an alternate reality version of me that was a girl I'd probably struggle at it for a bit but once I figured it out it wouldn't be a big deal.
As a cis woman I find this very relatable. In fact, I had struggled a lot as a teen with the fact that I hated having boobs and wished I had a beard. Those are things you may associate with a trans man, but despite those things I am still definitely a cis woman. I just dont connect my womanhood to things like boobs and having no facial hair. I am a woman because I just am.
Honestly such a slay. I hate people who get annoyed at people taking/ doing things to stop periods or ever having babies biologically.
I'm glad you're doing what you deem necessary for your comfort. ❤
Honestly I'd be incredibly annoyed about my body not working the way i expected for a few hours then move on with my life.
I remember as a child I "identified" as a horse and as a dog at times. I acted fully as an animal, went on all fours, and like barked at people, I was that weird child. But I've never been a problem, I wasn't treated differently either, sometimes my parents went along because it was fun. But I have never been confused about my identity, I know who I am, though still figuring out what label fits, i never once hurt anyone by saying I was some type of animal. I don't see the problem with children learning about genders when they already say they're animals and play around like that. It's such a stupid argument, cause it just doesn't hold. Children today are saying they're animals for fun, like they did for so long, that doesn't affect their gender and has nothing to do with their identity.
We all pretended to be dragons & aliens during recess as kids. But when I was a kid (not even that long ago) not many of us have heard the idea of "transgender", or identifying as things. So, we didn't say we "identify as" a dragon. We just said "I'll be the dragon".
@@TaylorUmongusHas yeah, i didn’t specifically say “i identify as a horse” But as a child that’s just a Word you’ll use cause you’ve heard it and it’s probably pretty new and exciting for a child, so if it was me and i knew that Word existed as a child, i Would probably have been using it
@@fjordbellacookielover7936 yeah
Honestly, I agree. The funny thing is, when I was a child and played with my friends (we were all girls), either I or my friend would sometimes take a male character role. For example, if we played family, sometimes one of us would be the father or a brother. When we played as animals, we would sometimes be a 'he'. And no one ever had an issue with that.
@@turquoiseragdoll Exactly the same here! I'm now non-binary, but the rest of my friends (who were usually the "he" more than me) are all cis and women at this point, so letting children "identify" as animals or genders doesn't have anything to do with what their gender is, so his point doesn't really stand in any way
I don't like it when they ask,
"Did you ever try it?"
You're not talking about trying mint&chocolate ice-cream, you're talking about a human being who has feelings.
*Never tried mint&chocolate ice cream, is it good?
Mint and chocolate ice cream is incredible... The invigorating freshness of the mint coupled with delicious chocolate. There's nothing not to love
"I've never had Mint and Choclate, but i know it is an evil virus of satan" -conservatives
Literally every trans person i saw was hot idk what all these transphobic people are on about
I'm a 34 year old trans woman and I've dated some six people, men, women, trans and cis. No bad breakups, no fighting, we just found we weren't compatible as partners and moved on. Still friends with all but one of them, not sure what happened to him tbh :c. And this was long after coming out.
My fellow trans folks, be a beautiful person and you will attract beautiful people. There's always someone out there for you. 💜
i would date you
you always have to find out whether the person you have a crush on is transphobic or not, that's kind of a struggle 😭
My transgender kid finds it difficult to say something when someone misgenders them, mostly due to anxiety, so if I am around I make sure that I correct the person.
That's very kind of you. Seems decent parents are rare these days.
How old is your kid
@@kevinfinnerty3754 almost 17
@@Haffina when did they come out?
@kevinfinnerty3754 Why is that relevant to you?
I wouldn't date a trans person. Not for any transphobic reason, I'm just already dating the person I want to be with forever and she happens to be cis. My feelings wouldn't change if she was trans.
To the lady saying people with gender dysphoria when they're misgendered aren't strong enough to be women:
I'm a cis woman who's first name is occasionally given to women but is almost always given to "boys" so i get misgendered very frequently in written communication or when someone who doesn't personally know me is talking about me to others, and it still makes me deeply uncomfortable and frustrated bc it just feels so Wrong
Maybe that means I'M not strong enough to be a woman... But i still am one
At the moment, i have no plans to date a trans person. However, if I ever fall in love with a girl and she turns out to be trans, I don’t see why I should just suddenly stop dating her if I love her
And to all you guys, girls, and everyone in between who are part of the LGBTQ+ community, I hope you find that significant other and are very happy with them!
You'll have the advantage (if she transitioned later, at least) that she knows about the male body, so she knows how to REALLY make you happy.
Tw: a bad joke.
As an ace, my significant other is Denmark 🥺
But fr, THIS is what us trans are after. I don't want you to be attracted to me, I don't care about it. Just treat me with the same respect you'd treat anyone else, and if you are attracted to me (tough luck, I'm aroace, sorry UnU) it better not be because of what's in my underwear!
If that happened to me and I was truly in love I'd question her identity and check if it's a phase cause if it's not then she can say bye bye.
@@montee3766 …
Look, I _highly_ disagree with that mindset, but I’m not gonna rip into you until you change it. Just… try not to actively make trans people feel bad about their identity
@@connergoessupersonic well i believe in challenging beliefs instead of going with the flow. Also Im not gay so that's a valid point. But who knows maybe its because i grew up in poor eastern Europe and not united states.
That woman in the transphobic stitch after Dylan didn't enumerate a single criteria of womanhood that wasn't related to biological maternity. Not even "motherhood" as like a more inclusive concept (which still wouldn't be conflated with womanhood), but specifically childbirth and breastfeeding. Which is insane to me that that's all she thinks defines a woman.
💯. It sounds like she needs to spend less time on tictok and more time with a therapist. She has gotten it into her head the thing that makes her a woman is the ability to have children which there are so many women who can't for various reasons. Then it just shows how much Trans Men and non binary people don't or can't exist in this very toxic mindset.
If she thinks everything that defines a woman is child birth, she definitely shouldn't see me as a girl as I'm never ever betting pregnant no matter what, as that thought terrifies me
If she wants to misgender me, she's just a hypocrite 😈
@@CelesteMinervaintersex people: 💀
@@lxmesoda This is also true. I apologize intersex people are constantly ignored and in so many cases made to fit into a box they don't fit in.
Imagine being so misogynistic that you think your only value is being a baby oven for society...
...but nah it's totally the trans community who's misogynistic/s
It’s so weird that they think it’s okay to ask that. It’s exactly the same as asking a cis woman “so, you’re a woman? How’s you 🐱?” Or the same with a cis man about his 🍆.
@@trevorchester4439 Lol, learn what gaslighting means first.
@@trevorchester4439 Gaslighting is manipulation made to specifically make the target question reality. That is not happening here.
Asking someone about their genitals isn’t reasonable at all in this context.
The person already said they were transgender, so either they have a penis or they’ve had surgery and don’t. What would that answer have added to the conversation here? Why on Earth should Mr. Random Senator have this information?
@@trevorchester4439do you not have a life outside of harassing people online and lying about things that have no impact on you?
This video is such good rage relief. I’m pouring all my frustration into listening to this. Will come out stronger by the end of it.
Snaps to the woman who stood up for her friend in the senate! The doctor stood up for herself very well, of course, but it's always good when other voices reinforce how awful people are for being awful!
19:28 such a breath of fresh air to see someone who understands how and why being misgendered is painful. so many people, even other trans people, seem to think you can just "suck it up" because they either don't remember what it's like to get misgendered, or just don't have any self-respect.
Such It Up? Much like suck mi punch, not every one like to be mis gendered especialy if their aspect Is soo dear to them
I remember in middle school wondering why ppl cared so much and if I (afab) was referred to as a boy I wouldn't care.... now I'm questioning if I'm nonbinary lol
I fully agree
@@martinacocca4225it’s possible! A lot of people get very very offended if they get misgendered including cis people. I mean people get pissed if you call their dog the wrong pronouns, yknow? Some cis people are chill though or laugh it off so it’s not necessarily and indicator, but play around with the concept if you want. It’s ok to question your gender and it’s also ok if you change your mind one way or the other at any point 🖤💜💛🤍
Fr! I was misgendered a couple times (cishet male!!) and it was some of the most humiliating moments in my life
Thanks for making this type of video Jamie!
I love your more positive stuff as well, but I always enjoy you working through the negativity because, as a closeted trans person in a very Catholic / conservative environment, it’s nice to go through the negativity I’ll see in a day to do with your positive, hopeful and rational commentary.
It always makes me very happy and hopeful 😊