Closing arguments in the Chandler Halderson trial

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  • @kokettabrown986
    @kokettabrown986 2 роки тому +209

    Does anyone get the feeling during the defense closing she said a whole lot, but didn't really say anything at all.

    • @tashaawesome6297
      @tashaawesome6297 2 роки тому +5

      💯

    • @rachelsavard851
      @rachelsavard851 2 роки тому +12

      she said he did it, but did the state really prove it was intentional

    • @kokettabrown986
      @kokettabrown986 2 роки тому +5

      @@rachelsavard851 Yes, but she spoke for a while just to get that point across.

    • @momsilk6072
      @momsilk6072 2 роки тому +25

      She said lots. None of it good. She even insulted the jury saying there's no way they didn't look up details outside the courtroom. 🙄 My gawd. It just goes on and on. So cringy.

    • @tracyrasmussen8117
      @tracyrasmussen8117 2 роки тому +13

      My guess is their strategy was all based on future appeals. What else did they really have to work with?!? And they were bound by ethics to do everything they could for this monster.

  • @awright119021
    @awright119021 2 роки тому +134

    That defense lawyer needs to understand that being condescending to the jury is not going to help your case at all. People tend to not listen to someone that is acting like that, right or wrong.

    • @sundaisycake3372
      @sundaisycake3372 2 роки тому +15

      Exactly! I was offended for them!

    • @jaykay1053
      @jaykay1053 2 роки тому +11

      I agree. Cringeworthy. I made a similar mistake during a presentation. (My intent was sound but there was no way to execute it without coming across as condescending & even disrespectful.) I didn’t realize what a mistake I’d made until I heard the words as they were coming out of my own mouth. A learning moment for me at the time. Maybe for her, too, at this time.

    • @karleet
      @karleet Рік тому +8

      I’m not a prude, but find it unnecessary and uncouth to swear in closing arguments.

    • @elitaylor3527
      @elitaylor3527 Рік тому

      Her facial expressions evoke a feeling of extreme irritation and disgust lol. I despise her for her attitude

    • @Sammie-May
      @Sammie-May Рік тому +8

      I agree that the swearing on her part was a bit weird coming from an attorney. I think it’s fine when they are reading texts or emails or anything essentially reciting what a witness or defendant said. But in your closing argument? … Girl.

  • @candee2746
    @candee2746 2 роки тому +258

    Seriously the BEST judge I’ve EVER witnessed and I have watched hundreds, if not thousands of trials. This man deserves awards. So polite, respectful, professional, humble and kind. He is such a breath of fresh air. I could listen to his voice all day. I’m seriously blown away and so impressed with him. I wish all judges were like him.

    • @bumblebaa2327
      @bumblebaa2327 2 роки тому +4

      agree. I also like Judge Walmsley a lot, he presided over the Ahmaud Arbery case, where three white racists killed a man for running while black. With an all white jury too!

    • @Ocrilat
      @Ocrilat 2 роки тому +2

      @@bumblebaa2327 Agreed. I watched that trial too.

    • @Ocrilat
      @Ocrilat 2 роки тому +3

      I've just started watching trials like this for education and entertainment. I also watched the Jodi Arias trial and the trial of the three men who murdered Ahmaud Arbery. Do you know of any others that you've seen that would be a good watch?

    • @bumblebaa2327
      @bumblebaa2327 2 роки тому +4

      @@Ocrilat I watched Joel Guy trial and the judge was OK-ish. Interesting case though because Guy did the same as Halderson but is very different (smart, oppressed, closeted, emotional about his roommate). The trial for Reinking showed beautiful people as witnesses (victims) and a sore gap between wanting to punish the murderer and him being a schizophrenic. People not knowing that locked up for insanity is just as bad as a common jail. The Rittenhouse trial is toe curling bad with the judge. Couldn't watch it.

    • @Ocrilat
      @Ocrilat 2 роки тому +2

      Thanks, I'll check it out. The first trial I did this with (watching the entire trial from beginning to end) was the Jodi Arias trial. There the attorneys were a lot more adversarial, and the judge a lot more bland than here, but it was very interesting, especially in the examination/cross examination area.

  • @sylvie9012
    @sylvie9012 2 роки тому +160

    That closing argument from the defense was one of the most embarrassing things I’ve ever heard. I was cringing so hard I almost had to turn it off. Her gasping for air, cursing, run on sentences that were either difficult to decipher or made no sense at all… wow. I know the defense didn’t have a leg to stand on in this case, but she truly came across like it was her first day of pre-law and she was attempting some kind of filibuster off the top of her head.

    • @cailin5309
      @cailin5309 2 роки тому +18

      I think she was just ranting to kill time in order to rack up trial hours for payday lol

    • @woodybrown4
      @woodybrown4 2 роки тому +17

      I was truly trying to see it through the lens as if I was a juror listening to this closing statement from the defense.
      Completely embarrassing - there was zero linear thinking in her argument and I was lost almost immediately...and then she starts cussing...like a high schooler.

    • @MsNotiM
      @MsNotiM 2 роки тому +11

      Chandler was even embarrassed...I believe 😮

    • @phitzwellthundercock3894
      @phitzwellthundercock3894 2 роки тому

      The part about him being smart enough to delete his search history but then leave behind a shell casing and bullet fragment is my favorite part. I don’t care how much of a psycho you are, cutting up both your parents and unsuccessfully burning their heads inside a house is going to effect your brain in ways she couldn’t possibly imagine. My god I hope she listened to this afterwards.

    • @greenman6141
      @greenman6141 2 роки тому +19

      Okay, what do YOU think could have been said in a defense closing? The only thing that is strange is that he insisted on a trial. He was obviously going to be convicted. His attorneys would have told him that, but he insisted on a trial. He'd have done much much better to take a deal - tell them what he had done with the other parts of his parents, and got his attorneys to negotiate for a better prison or better prison rules - which is what they do if someone is going away for life.
      The defense closing was all they could do. If it hadn't been okay for the circumstances then he will get an appeal based on inadequate defense, but he won't because there is so much evidence.

  • @CrookedEyeSniper
    @CrookedEyeSniper 2 роки тому +102

    Prosecution: "Your honor, we'd like to amend the charges before deliberations to include the charge that Chandler also killed John F. Kennedy."
    Defense: "No objections, your honor."

    • @maryannanderson2213
      @maryannanderson2213 2 роки тому

      Don't forget Bobby Kennedy and MLK. I think he probably killed them too. Possibly even Abraham Lincoln.

    • @kimanireid6111
      @kimanireid6111 2 роки тому +2

      😂😂😂😂👍👍👍👍

    • @melntribe4403
      @melntribe4403 2 роки тому +2

      😹😹😹😹😹 Ace comment 🤘

    • @tinavasquez7206
      @tinavasquez7206 Рік тому

      @Luke Skinwalker You win the comment of the day award! That is fantastic.
      😂😂🤣🤣🤣

    • @stephaniemorrissey123
      @stephaniemorrissey123 Рік тому

      😂😂😂

  • @kelleycustomartistry5542
    @kelleycustomartistry5542 2 роки тому +132

    The idea that she CHOSE to use the sentence “and what does it really matter…” over and over again is extremely idiotic.

    • @ReSearcherSusie
      @ReSearcherSusie 2 роки тому +31

      And disrespectful to Bart & Krista’s lives. They mattered very much.

    • @80kokoro
      @80kokoro 2 роки тому +14

      @@ReSearcherSusie can't believe she even referred to Bart as Brett at one point

    • @jwm4ever
      @jwm4ever 2 роки тому +6

      Exactly. To say "It Doesn't Matter" is lunacy.
      Everything matters.

    • @mehere4t828
      @mehere4t828 2 роки тому +13

      I do feel for defense attorneys who land cases like this which are indefensible, but they seem to want to convince jurists that "proof beyond a reasonable doubt" means 'proof beyond all doubt', the only card for a desperate defense. There is no doubt in this case. CH lied constantly to make his life easier & he was growing ever closer to being exposed as a failure & a liar- which would cause his gravy train to end. He wanted to continue to lie to inflate his reputation & benefit from his parents' estate/insurance to coast through life for even longer. Selfish, entitled, spoiled, manipulative, murderous psychopath.

    • @misterslats
      @misterslats 2 роки тому

      Bart and Krista were executed so Chandler could continue to perpetuate all the lies the defence says "really didn't matter". Does that not make all the lies the VERY CRUX of this story! Two people died because those lies mattered more to Chandler than ANYTHING else in his life!

  • @whitebird803
    @whitebird803 2 роки тому +41

    To the defense attorney: don’t point your finger at the jury. Don’t accuse the jury of breaking the law. Don’t whine. Don’t tell the jury your client is a liar and justify it by calling the jury liars. Don’t use guilt in your closing arguments. If you think you had evidence contrary to the prosecution then cross examine the witnesses. Edited: oh yeah I almost forgot, they say lying makes you thirsty. You kept drinking water …just saying.

  • @jwm4ever
    @jwm4ever 2 роки тому +122

    The defense attorney looks and acts unprofessional, and her closing was absolute lunacy.
    She's drinking and slurping coffee during her closing, insulting the jurors, swearing, snotty, ranting on about how his compulsive lying means nothing, because even all you jurors lie too, so his lying is not important and proves nothing.
    Unreal.
    This defense attorney is horrible. Everything she said was ridiculous and even bizarre.

    • @n.h.moreno
      @n.h.moreno 2 роки тому +5

      She takes a drink of coffee and goes, "Oh yeah?? And YOU'RE UGLY! Nothing further your honor!"

    • @joantinker1693
      @joantinker1693 2 роки тому +10

      Maybe it wasn't coffee...

    • @courtneybauman4816
      @courtneybauman4816 2 роки тому +11

      Couldn’t stand he smacking her mouth before speaking in every cross examination. Also saying Correct? Correct?After every question. 😬

    • @SeenTeeya
      @SeenTeeya 2 роки тому +10

      She was swearing?? I can’t even finish it from second hand embarrassment 😂 someone pls give me the time I can’t possibly watch the whole thing

    • @katiemarie3348
      @katiemarie3348 2 роки тому +13

      She called Bart, Bret 😳😩

  • @blessingsoflight
    @blessingsoflight 2 роки тому +135

    It still blows my mind that this kid could do this to his own parents. Parents that loved him and cared for him.

    • @stepheneurosailor1623
      @stepheneurosailor1623 2 роки тому

      Maybe he didn't?

    • @EpsiIonEagle
      @EpsiIonEagle 2 роки тому

      @@stepheneurosailor1623 🤨 Shut up

    • @larncieldarknciel440
      @larncieldarknciel440 2 роки тому +20

      A lot of people don't realize this , but would have happened if his Girlfriend or his friends found the evidence of the murders. The girlfriend doesn't realize how close she was to be a victim.

    • @1Life2Live007
      @1Life2Live007 2 роки тому +9

      Yes! I agree! I just can’t believe it. And to the extreme he did! Wow! So so so unbelievable

    • @jaykay1053
      @jaykay1053 2 роки тому +9

      And to frame his own girlfriend is mind blowing.

  • @kariminalminds
    @kariminalminds 2 роки тому +77

    I love this judge. He’s the exact person to be a judge as he’s calm, patient and very professional. He is respectful and kind throughout the entire trial.

  • @WobblesandBean
    @WobblesandBean 10 місяців тому +10

    The defense really made me angry. She does nothing but accuse people of being too stupid to know what they saw, heard, and remembered. Accusing medical professionals of being incompetent and not knowing the time of death. Saying that the witnesses are either lying or confused. It's *_infuriating._*
    Edit: AND accusing the jury of not following the rules. Yeah, that'll really win em to your side, lady.

  • @Ann-kg1zd
    @Ann-kg1zd 2 роки тому +162

    The amount of ice he bought was ridiculous. This guy was literally his parents' worst nightmare. RIP Bart and Krista. Prayers for the brother of this monster.

    • @katet3327
      @katet3327 2 роки тому +8

      Making drinks, c’mon. That soda isn’t gonna cool itself.

    • @boottheeeeeee
      @boottheeeeeee 2 роки тому +5

      @@katet3327 20 pounds of ice for Sosa. Plus the bag cat brought as well and the ice machine. 😂

    • @hoover1412
      @hoover1412 2 роки тому +26

      40 lbs of ice is not much ice at all. The bodies were probably 350 lbs total, 40 lbs of ice wouldn’t be remotely close to keeping them cold.
      Chandler is literally the worst criminal I’ve ever seen. Other than video recording his crime, he couldn’t have left more evidence.

    • @AllysonStorm
      @AllysonStorm 2 роки тому +9

      @Hoover Chandler Halderson is the worst criminal you’ve ever seen…? Or just the most guilty?
      He’s a despicable, entitled piece of steaming twat waffle, but not the quite the wOrsT criminal by far. Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell might be marginally more evil and shocking, currently.

    • @LB-id6wf
      @LB-id6wf 2 роки тому +2

      @@hoover1412 he only needed it for a few limbs! He watched their faces as they 🥵 burnt!

  • @Ocrilat
    @Ocrilat 2 роки тому +179

    On the defense argument. Ouch.
    I guess they are hoping the jury is stupid. 'beyond a reasonable doubt' is not the same as 'absolutely zero doubt'. 'Beyond a reasonable doubt' does not mean 'we know every single detail.
    -The victims never told anyone they were going to the cabin.
    -The Haldersons both just skipped work with no call to their employers, out of character
    -The victims did not leave the house.
    -The victims blood, DNA and cell phones were in the house.
    -The tarp found with the father's torso had Chandler's footprint and his fingerprint in in his father's blood.
    -If the defense wants to argue something was untrue, maybe they should have argued it during the trial. It's a bit late now.

    • @Mandy-nt2cs
      @Mandy-nt2cs 2 роки тому +24

      No kidding.. I'm still sitting here like 😲😲😲 from the fact that the Defense rested their case. What case lol They didn't argue a Defense in the least. Just No Thanks Yoo's and a few insignificant questions. I suppose those that this is one of the least dependable cases I've ever seen.

    • @KarenColeUKLawyer
      @KarenColeUKLawyer 2 роки тому +11

      Totally agree 👍

    • @Ocrilat
      @Ocrilat 2 роки тому +25

      @@Mandy-nt2cs I mean, I get they are in a terrible position. They have a monster to defend. He didn't even plead (he stood mute). They are both public defenders, so they can't even threaten to quit to have any leverage. There is a mountain of evidence, and no real defense.
      But the argument is...asinine. They seem to be complaining that the prosecution has too much evidence, that they proved too many things, complaining that Chandler didn't testify, and that forensics professionals can't know every insignificant detail.
      Their argument is basically:
      'Since Chandler murdered all the witnesses, the prosecution doesn't know every last detail of the crimes. And if you don't know every last detail, then you have to acquit'.
      Two fatal wounds in his father's torso?
      Maybe Chandler shot him in the head first. You don't know? Not Guilty!
      Maybe Bart slipped and fell, and his body fell apart, and his torso bounced to the farm. You can't prove that didn't happen? Not Guilty!

    • @carolbell8008
      @carolbell8008 2 роки тому +4

      Guilty guilty guilty!!

    • @JenMakeupDollxo
      @JenMakeupDollxo 2 роки тому +2

      Not his (Chaz) DNA and/or prints for such a lousy cleaner…

  • @ShutTheMuckUp
    @ShutTheMuckUp 2 роки тому +215

    I understand that the defense had virtually no legs to stand on in this case, but that was arguably the WORST closing argument by a defense I've ever seen. That was beyond pathetic...

    • @hipe4191
      @hipe4191 2 роки тому +34

      I absolutely agree! The worst! Defense council had the audacity to interrupt the prosecution’s closing arguments. Never have I seen that before.
      LE & the prosecution did an excellent job on this case. Brilliant, in fact.
      Chaz can rot in prison now & forever.
      Justice has been served for
      Bart & Krista. 💙💜
      God bless the family.❤️xxx

    • @shilohm6558
      @shilohm6558 2 роки тому +42

      It was, but at least she friggin' tried! That other one (with the long grayish hair) who gave the defense's opening statement, was God awful!!! Her ramblings made ZERO sense, she put zero effort into anything and her whiney voice ("no thank youuuu") grated my nerves. At least this one questioned a witness or two LOL

    • @hipe4191
      @hipe4191 2 роки тому +9

      @@shilohm6558 • Agreed.💯You made me giggle about that gray haired lady.

    • @just-nadia-and-keys
      @just-nadia-and-keys 2 роки тому +29

      The audacity to object during the Prosecution's closing arguments. Attorney Brown really got under her skin when he said the Defense is asking you to lie for Chandler. And that is the truth!!! Can't believe this woman is taking it so personally when she knows Chandler is as guilty as sin of the most horrendous, evil crime.

    • @hipe4191
      @hipe4191 2 роки тому +4

      @@just-nadia-and-keys • Yeah, I thought she was going have an aneurism or stroke!💯

  • @nerdlove1071
    @nerdlove1071 2 роки тому +131

    6:23 video begins, state and defense rest
    9:23 jury instructions for all 8 counts
    36:45 Prosecution Closing Argument
    1:20:55 James Langer commentary
    1:35:10 Defense Closing Argument
    2:09:12 Prosecution Rebuttal Argument. (bench conference that begins at 2:23:17 is over at 2:30:49)
    2:33:10 further instructions from the judge
    2:45:44 James Langer commentary

    • @jodijohnson5296
      @jodijohnson5296 2 роки тому +4

      Thank you!

    • @micheler1077
      @micheler1077 2 роки тому +2

      Thank you

    • @Leonicles
      @Leonicles 2 роки тому +2

      Thanks for this!

    • @stevequinn9617
      @stevequinn9617 2 роки тому +2

      Ok so I didn't just miss the defenses case. They literally didn't put one on? Lol I was trying to catch up on the trial & thought I missed a few days but I guess not. He's definitely going to win a retrial for ineffective council

    • @randomRyze
      @randomRyze 2 роки тому

      Thank you kindly

  • @geanx5678
    @geanx5678 2 роки тому +73

    I really like when the closing argument is in a form of a presentation. So clear and easy to follow. The prosecution did a great job.

    • @cortneyrens
      @cortneyrens Рік тому +7

      Yep, both Prosecutors did a great job, the opening statement was amazing, DA is a great speaker

    • @ChadDidNothingWrong
      @ChadDidNothingWrong Рік тому

      I want more visual effects. Like a tacky low budget CGI video of the fireplace events would make my day lol

    • @mars_bars78
      @mars_bars78 Рік тому +4

      They really did do a great job. I'm a Criminal Justice grad who was always that "nerd" that sat and watched live trials on CourtTV before they stopped running them. I have NEVER seen a prosecution team present a case so well, so perfectly in line with the evidence presented... This was so easy to watch and to follow. (Aside from having to hear about what this sick kid did to his parents.)

    • @tr909love
      @tr909love Рік тому +1

      I like more the opening statement. It shows the story.

  • @Rteest345
    @Rteest345 2 роки тому +90

    If I was on that jury, I’d have been incredibly insulted by the snarky condescending attitude of this worthless defense lawyer!

    • @kimbooley90
      @kimbooley90 2 роки тому +1

      She's giving me dumb Valley girl vibes.

    • @tfny100
      @tfny100 2 роки тому +1

      @@kimbooley90 seriously

  • @queen.bee.03
    @queen.bee.03 Рік тому +17

    I love this judge. When he reads instructions it sounds like a bedtime story. 🤣

  • @LB-id6wf
    @LB-id6wf 2 роки тому +92

    The worst was kept from us!
    Did you notice how loving his mothers messages always are to him!! He never writes back to thank her or to say he loves her. What a waste to cast your love to such a pig!

    • @micheler1077
      @micheler1077 2 роки тому +22

      Those text messages broke my heart. Especially the one where she thanked him for waiving to her. She was in love with Chandler and he didn’t care. I hope he enjoys his next mom (cell mate).

    • @vz4779
      @vz4779 2 роки тому +10

      Yes, I was wondering the same thing too. He never said, "love you too."

    • @almond3066
      @almond3066 2 роки тому +18

      @@micheler1077 I wonder how this guy will even manage without everyone who was taking care of him
      I heard his mother made all his meals, and in pictures of the house he had that little bed fort in his house with his Lego sets everywhere like a child and when his parents were gone he'd stay with his GF and her family, and likely they were babying him too from how the GF gets anything he asks for
      It's hard to imagine how such a raging manchild like him will live with nobody coddling him and doing everything for him anymore

    • @accordian6ty
      @accordian6ty 2 роки тому +15

      So dreadfully sad to have such an honest,hardworking,loving family annihilated by their very own Son whom they loved..it’s beyond belief !!!! rip 🙏🏾

    • @LB-id6wf
      @LB-id6wf 2 роки тому +5

      @@micheler1077 I know Michele! How sad is that! As a medical student I waved goodbye to my mother in law to be every day on route to the famous Groote Schuur Hospital every day in my final year of training. It meant so much.
      It’s unfathomable how this guy has no conscience. His brother gave little evidence.

  • @tracyrasmussen8117
    @tracyrasmussen8117 2 роки тому +86

    I'm astounded by the depths of Chandler's delusion and lies that he even took his case to a jury trial! Come on man!!!

    • @sharilynmeyer7008
      @sharilynmeyer7008 2 роки тому +8

      He obviously haven't been watching any crime series for the last couple of years. Too busy playing games. How ignorant 🙄

    • @cailin5309
      @cailin5309 2 роки тому +9

      He made it go to trial & didn’t even put on a defense.. so what exactly was the point? To bring more attention to him, to waste everyone’s time.. what a sociopath

    • @emmaemery1099
      @emmaemery1099 2 роки тому +6

      Did see wen he was sentenced and read his note..He said if any lawyer can here this I want an appeal..The judge is crying and this wants an appeal..He cut his parents heads and their ..I almost threw up thinking about how someone could cut up their parents..Kids are killing their parents to play video games and not work

    • @SarelleSirius
      @SarelleSirius 2 роки тому +3

      I mean, at that point you’re already definitely going to get life if you plead guilty. If you take it to trial there’s going to be a minuscule chance you can get off. Particularly if you can afford a good attorney (or luck into a good public defender), but in a case with this much physical evidence, there would’ve had to be some kind of police misconduct or other technical error for him to get off.

    • @greenman6141
      @greenman6141 2 роки тому +2

      @@SarelleSirius But his attorneys could have negotiated for a better prison or better conditions in prison had he pled guilty. Which, given that it was so so obvious he would be convicted, he should have done. Obviously it wasn't the attorneys' fault, again, given the ludicrous statement the murderer read out.
      A crime and criminal as heinous and stupid as Chris Watts' - who, now that I think of it, is in a Wisconsin jail. Will there be a fair trade and send this vile thing to Colorado?

  • @lorieromano3999
    @lorieromano3999 2 роки тому +179

    This kid really did about as good a job with the murder and subsequent cover up as he did in school. Hearing the defense say in a sing song voice "no thank you" when asked if they wanted to cross examine, kind of drove home how little they had to work with. Brilliant work Chandler

    • @hoover1412
      @hoover1412 2 роки тому +28

      Exactly. The defense didn’t put on a defense because chandler left so much evidence they couldn’t.
      Other than an eye witness to the murder or video of the actual murder, what other evidence could the prosecution want? He left them everything and cell phone data put him at all the locations
      The defense is just hoping he’ll get life with parole and be out in 30 years

    • @nunyamindyub3255
      @nunyamindyub3255 2 роки тому +22

      @@hoover1412I mean he still had the shoes with all their blood on them. The tarp with all their blood, and his fingerprint on it. Amongst everything else. I’m glad he did a great job of not disposing anything.

    • @Iloveyoursmile
      @Iloveyoursmile 2 роки тому +12

      @@hoover1412 Defence isn’t hoping for 30 yrs with parole. They don’t really care. As soon as he gets sentenced they leave and Chandler never see them again. They won’t visit him how he’s doing.

    • @Ocrilat
      @Ocrilat 2 роки тому +18

      @@hoover1412 I think you're right, except about the parole thing. I think what they were doing was just keeping their eyes open to see if the prosecution or police screwed up, and then hoping for a mistrial (the best they could have hoped for).
      As for parole, I'd wager he will get no possibility of parole. The crime was brutal, he didn't cooperate with the judicial system, there was a trial, he didn't confess, had no remorse, didn't inform the police where the rest of the remains were, etc. There is no reason to give him any leeway, except that he is young-ish.
      He's a monster, and even in 30 years he'd still be a danger to the community.

    • @Ocrilat
      @Ocrilat 2 роки тому +12

      @@stepheneurosailor1623 Oh? Who? Why wasn't it revealed in the trial? And since it wasn't revealed in the trial, how would you know about this person anyway?

  • @jacksmedullaoblongata7659
    @jacksmedullaoblongata7659 2 роки тому +105

    I am very sad for the girlfriend who didn't sign up for this. You can tell how shocked and saddened she was. This will be a scar that stays with her, always questioning her own judgements and the truthfulness of any new person in her life; and also everything she thinks she knows to be true about everyone she cares about. She actually cared more for his parents than he did.

    • @lisashrestha5023
      @lisashrestha5023 2 роки тому +14

      And I doubt she’ll ever call
      Another boyfriend ‘hubby.’

    • @courtneybauman4816
      @courtneybauman4816 2 роки тому +20

      She will most likely be extra cautious now about dating. Going to their actual place of work, confirm things they say, see all kinds of red flags. I hope she can live a happy fulfilled life after this horrifying trauma.

    • @nanettelapore
      @nanettelapore 2 роки тому +4

      I hope she tells him she will send him money and then sends pics of her at the carnival with her truth telling sexy new boyfriend

    • @stepheneurosailor1623
      @stepheneurosailor1623 2 роки тому +1

      @@courtneybauman4816 Tragic he will never see freedom and enjoy life ever again simply because of Cats squirrelfish.

    • @ryveralexander8511
      @ryveralexander8511 2 роки тому +8

      At one time, Cat and her mom was so proud, her boyfriend going to work for Elon Musk at SpaceX, Space X alright! In the all lies Universe!!

  • @marymary20
    @marymary20 2 роки тому +157

    The defense attorney’s job is to create reasonable doubt for her client. She should have done this during cross examination, but she let most of the state’s evidence go uncontested. Closing arguments is not the time to try and create doubt…I really don’t get her strategy. She doesn’t really have one except to argue the state failed to meet its burden, which it actually did in spectacular fashion.

    • @myfatcatelliott8840
      @myfatcatelliott8840 2 роки тому +45

      She had nothing to work with. He should have pled guilty and saved everyone the time, anguish, and money.

    • @Ocrilat
      @Ocrilat 2 роки тому

      Do you think the state resting so unexpectedly hurt them? They seemed to be setting something up, and reserved ALL the prosecution witnesses for their defense. But did...nothing. Were they just hoping to figure something out during the trial but had no ideas? Did they really think the prosecution didn't meet it's burden? Did Chandler throw a monekywrench into their plans at the last minute? Something else? What do you think?

    • @almond3066
      @almond3066 2 роки тому +1

      @@Ocrilat they aren't denying the other charges other than 1st degree murder, and I read the only way to really fight that at this point is for chandler to make a gamble and take the stand and set up a really good narrative for him to defend and explain himself
      I'm wondering if they were hoping to get Chandler to take the stand and maybe he initially agreed to it, but he chickened out last second and refused to so they lost that angle entirely

    • @Ocrilat
      @Ocrilat 2 роки тому +13

      @@almond3066 The attorney's have the opportunity to ask questions and cast doubt on every witness and every piece of evidence. They didn't They had an opportunity to have an alternative theory that explains the evidence, to demonstrate reasonable doubt. They didn't.
      When the defense doesn't challenge a witness or piece of evidence, they are conceding the prosecution's point to the jury. If they don't present an alternative narrative, they are conceding that there isn't one.

    • @johncrawford1130
      @johncrawford1130 2 роки тому

      Defence team fuksake needs houdini wee rat

  • @ritatinken3278
    @ritatinken3278 2 роки тому +96

    The Prosecutor's are doing an amazing job ---- Justice for Bart & Krista.

    • @joycemarie9702
      @joycemarie9702 2 роки тому +5

      The Prosecution Team did a phenomenal job. Opening and closing statements definitely made sense of senseless, horrible crime. Everything has been laid out…..no doubt at all. I cried for Bart and Krista when the Prosecutor finished her closing statement. Praying that they are at peace 🙏🏻

    • @p.sherman3158
      @p.sherman3158 2 роки тому +3

      This was an easy case to prosecute. First year law school could have presented this case. Defendant was too stupid.

    • @hoover1412
      @hoover1412 2 роки тому +3

      Easy to do a great job with the Mt Everest of evidence chandler left for them.

    • @antivenomadams6369
      @antivenomadams6369 2 роки тому +2

      I hope Bart & Krista are haunting the 💩 out of Chandler

  • @dodgy8393
    @dodgy8393 2 роки тому +97

    That is the worst defense attorney I've ever witnessed. She knows she has no defense, she should at a minimum try to be likeable, she's not. If I were the defendant, I'd send her out for jelly donuts and I'd plead guilty and beg for leniency.

    • @mas5867
      @mas5867 2 роки тому +5

      Appeal on ineffective counsel? Hell, and Chandler can say what insanity. I was never given that option. I bet this gets appealed 42 yrs and millions later.

    • @LB-id6wf
      @LB-id6wf 2 роки тому +8

      She actually admitted she is watching the jury dislike them..

    • @radic888
      @radic888 2 роки тому +14

      Absolutely, and starting off by assuming the jury members are ‘liars’ is hardly going to endear them.

    • @katet3327
      @katet3327 2 роки тому +11

      She’s has major attitude and acts very pompous.

    • @kimberleefowler8576
      @kimberleefowler8576 2 роки тому +4

      Dumbest defense I ever heard.

  • @paigebarker1468
    @paigebarker1468 Рік тому +23

    I would literally pay to have the judge read me law & crime books regularly 😂 just bring him along everywhere to read and teach me, his voice is so soothing to begin with and then he talks about such difficult subjects with grace and maturity, plus he's clearly very intelligent and I just love him! I think I have an old man judge crush 😂😂❤️

    • @debbiemclennan438
      @debbiemclennan438 10 місяців тому +2

      I 100 percent agree, I could listen to him all day.

  • @johns1625
    @johns1625 Рік тому +43

    "Dads phone died, text or call me"
    -This is Chandlers attempt to keep his mom from texting his dad. Because Chandler could not unlock his fathers phone. Had she sent him a text and it remained unread, it would prove Bart disappeared between 2:10 and 5PM July 1st.
    "And get soda on your way home, I have an extra hour of work"
    -This is Chandler creating a reason for his mother to go into the basement. The small fridge in there is where they kept sodas. The extra hour of work part was likely an attempt to get his mom to assume he's locked in his room working, not downstairs next to the fridge with a rifle waiting for her.

    • @nicarazzi
      @nicarazzi Рік тому +16

      True. He didn’t even say please or would you mind getting some.

    • @stancexpunks
      @stancexpunks Рік тому +2

      I see where you’re coming from but I don’t think that’s entirely correct. Firstly, they don’t see if a text has been read or not, they just see the content, date, time, sender and recipient of the texts sent. Secondly, who’s to say someone else besides the mom wasn’t going to text or call Bart? Chandler had no control over who would text or call. I think his reasoning for saying Bart’s phone died is so the mom doesn’t get suspicious or worried when she unsuccessfully tries to text or call bart and then calling the cops or coming home worried or suspicious. Chandler wanted to catch his mom completely off guard.
      Also I think the soda thing was moreso to buy more time. Because she wasn’t buying a whole case of soda, she only bought a single cup. Also he could easily draw her into the garage by other means

    • @tr909love
      @tr909love 2 місяці тому +1

      That's very good detective work.

    • @brittdawgggarfarf1882
      @brittdawgggarfarf1882 Місяць тому

      @@stancexpunksmom
      Uhhh b😢😢

  • @mashton6631
    @mashton6631 2 роки тому +14

    I’ll bet this judge is a member of the local Shakespearean theatre community

  • @ZombieMiezz
    @ZombieMiezz 2 роки тому +45

    The mental gymnastics you have to make to find him not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt is insane.

    • @80kokoro
      @80kokoro 2 роки тому +5

      if he had any shred of dignity he would have pled guilty and avoided the trial altogether but he is a liar to the end

    • @ZombieMiezz
      @ZombieMiezz 2 роки тому

      @@80kokoro I agree. The audacity he had to plead not guilty but I guess he wanted to appeal or make claims against his defense lawyers for ineffective counsel or something along the lines. This is not over for him.

    • @woodybrown4
      @woodybrown4 2 роки тому +2

      The defense's closing argument was the WORST

  • @RobA830
    @RobA830 2 роки тому +42

    Judge-"Attorney vera would you please present the defense closing"
    Attorney vera-"No thank you"

  • @radic888
    @radic888 2 роки тому +42

    Wow, accusing the jury of breaking the laws of jury service. That’s really going to work.

    • @rachelsavard851
      @rachelsavard851 2 роки тому +4

      And then after accusing the jury of lying and breaking the law, she objects to the prosecution saying she was lying or asking the jury to lie

  • @Sparkplug2286
    @Sparkplug2286 2 роки тому +96

    The defense attorney that gave the closing was the worst. The lack of defense and coherent statements aside, she scowled at the jury several times; told them they are all liars because “obviously they likely googled the case when told not to”; already made up their minds so probably won’t listen to her; etc.
    Like, lady - the one thing you DO have is providing some explanation and sympathy. Instead she went with “he’s innocent, must have been an awful accident, the other attorneys are jerks and not doing their job correctly, and you’re all liars who probably googled the case against court rules”. 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️
    How did she think ANY of that was a good idea. She was bitter and salty and it showed, which worked against them just as much as everything else did. I can’t imagine anyone seeing her on this case and hiring her afterwards.
    🤦🏻‍♀️

    • @HomeGypsy
      @HomeGypsy 2 роки тому +21

      Thank you for putting EXACTLY what I was perceiving into words!

    • @TheOneanjel
      @TheOneanjel 2 роки тому +14

      the Defense did the bare minimum if that. It's a slap in the face to any good defense attorney to see this.

    • @kelleycustomartistry5542
      @kelleycustomartistry5542 2 роки тому +13

      So strange and unprofessional. What the hell is she doing? She sounds like a snobby middle school girl.

    • @mspinos
      @mspinos 2 роки тому +7

      The ABSOLUTE worst

    • @hipe4191
      @hipe4191 2 роки тому +15

      Tiffany Elmer • Additionally, she cursed during closing arguments due to the lack of any rational arguments for the defense. Pitiful defense attorneys.🔧

  • @Evanthebat15
    @Evanthebat15 2 роки тому +24

    Just wanted to take a moment to thank James Langer for the amazing commentary, no drama, no opinions just simplifying it and I appreciate it greatly. Gonna miss them.

    • @HK-kz1wu
      @HK-kz1wu Рік тому +2

      He was brilliant! Hope he goes on to do great in his career.

  • @radic888
    @radic888 2 роки тому +44

    Imagine if Chandler had stood up and interrupted his Defence counsel and yelled: ‘Enough already! Shut the hell up! I’m guilty, cut the crap!’

    • @jr7845
      @jr7845 2 роки тому +9

      Sociopathic people do not feel for others deaths, or even any small atrocities

    • @hipe4191
      @hipe4191 2 роки тому +6

      Adam Adam • That would have been awesome!👏

    • @hummingbird9306
      @hummingbird9306 2 роки тому +5

      Funny - I had a very similar thought !!

    • @shilohm6558
      @shilohm6558 2 роки тому +3

      A Psychopath would never do that though

    • @radic888
      @radic888 2 роки тому +3

      @@shilohm6558 True, but it doesn’t stop one imagining.

  • @SpiritSeekerSquad
    @SpiritSeekerSquad 2 роки тому +38

    The defense said the prosecution proved beyond a reasonable doubt, that Chandler was guilty of filing the missing person report, but not the other charges. 🤣
    That caught my attention immediately. 👀
    For him to be guilty of this, Chandler would have to know his parents weren't really missing, when he filed the missing person report, right? 🤦🏽‍♀️🤔🤭
    Chandler filed this report on 7.7.21.
    Barts remains weren't found til 3pm on 7.8.21. 🤔
    So, by the defense saying Chandler was guilty of this false report, she's telling the jury that he had prior knowledge of Bart and Kristas whereabouts/death! 🤷🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️ Cause he murdered them days before, in my opinion, allegedly. Isn't that being confirmed by CHANDLERS DEFENSE? 🤔🤨😬
    She ends her closing with the state also proved Chandler scattered his parents bodies throughout the state but, who could have killed them? 🤦🏽‍♀️
    Am I missing something? A defense attorney telling a jury that their client is GUILTY in their closing, calling the jurors liars, and repeatedly saying common sense, isn't really a great idea... just my thoughts... 🤷🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️

    • @antivenomadams6369
      @antivenomadams6369 2 роки тому +2

      Worst defense ever

    • @maryannanderson2213
      @maryannanderson2213 2 роки тому +4

      Defense attorneys often try to sell us on the idea that if someone didn't actually SEE the murder take place, and possibly provide a video of it, then there is room for "reasonable doubt". Someone COULD have come sneaking in the house through some window that was not in the line of sight of any of the neighbors' cameras and committed the murders and then gone sneaking unobserved out the same way and left poor little Chandler with the grisly task of getting rid of all the evidence in the worst possible way. If someone COULD have done that, then there is reasonable doubt. Right? Please! To believe anyone else committed this crime, you would have to suspend all sense of reason and logic. No wonder the Defense attorney got so snarky. She literally had nothing else...

  • @jathanportis8432
    @jathanportis8432 2 роки тому +37

    I have seen some bad defense attorneys in my time. I have seen bad defense openings/closings. These defense attorneys are two of the worst attorneys I have ever seen. Wow, I mean wow? Prosecution did amazing job with a mountain of evidence.

  • @tngirl79799
    @tngirl79799 2 роки тому +35

    Wow. That might be the worst closing argument by a defense attorney I've ever heard

    • @jodyvollmer4125
      @jodyvollmer4125 2 роки тому +4

      It’s like she put it together 10 minutes before the closing arguments… Instead of speaking to things chronologically she just randomly spewed out disjointed thoughts. She obviously did not practice before delivering her speech

    • @waynewear5839
      @waynewear5839 Рік тому

      Wanna see bad? Check out the closing arguments in Florida vs Mark Sievers. Mummert makes these two look like F Lee Bailey

  • @cambrie7946
    @cambrie7946 2 роки тому +18

    This guy didn't think anyone would miss his parents just because he thought so little of them, and so little of everyone else. True narcissist

  • @LourdesGzz
    @LourdesGzz 2 роки тому +52

    I'm gonna miss the judge, I wish he was streamed online every day 💯

    • @favouritemoon4133
      @favouritemoon4133 2 роки тому +8

      True. I live in the UK and I'm basically a horrible old cynic, but at some points, I remember thinking 'I should write to this judge and commend him for his conduct during this trial'.

    • @lilylomcari1750
      @lilylomcari1750 2 роки тому +3

      @@favouritemoon4133 why not? That sounds like a lovely thing to do. In this day and age not many people would write such nice things. I think it’s nice that you thought of doing that especially from so far away 😊 take care!

    • @jeanakatherine9369
      @jeanakatherine9369 2 роки тому +1

      @@lilylomcari1750 I tried writing a judge a letter once & the court told me judges don’t accept letters written by people…i can’t remember why..safety reasons or something

    • @wessexwench6974
      @wessexwench6974 2 роки тому +3

      You’re not alone. I’m going to miss him too. I’m also in the U.K., and this judge could seriously teach a great many British judges some lessons. He is utterly charming.
      Being a Wisconsin case, I wonder how Steven Avery and Brendan Dassey might have fared with this judge on their benches.

    • @jaykay1053
      @jaykay1053 2 роки тому +2

      @@favouritemoon4133 You could submit a letter to the editor of his local newspaper. He would likely see it. Perhaps contact the newspaper to ask about it first so that they have a heads-up before receiving it. Great idea to express to him what it meant to you to watch him during this trial.

  • @teelameers2936
    @teelameers2936 2 роки тому +20

    I just wanted to say thanks for the great coverage of this trial by your station and you.

  • @hollydunda
    @hollydunda 2 роки тому +22

    “The last lie of chandler halderson” best line in prosecution rebuttal

  • @dianehess5241
    @dianehess5241 2 роки тому +47

    This has to be the best judge I have ever seen! The most polite, the most considerate, just the best at everything!

    • @karenhill5925
      @karenhill5925 2 роки тому

      Judge walmsley who was the judge on the Ahmaud Auberry trial is the best! I’d give this judge 2 nd😁

    • @hoover1412
      @hoover1412 2 роки тому

      The judge in the edgecomb trial in Milwaukee going on now is better. He’s blunt and runs a quick trial

  • @Cochise6666
    @Cochise6666 9 місяців тому +5

    The defense attorney jumping and clamoring "Okay, im gonna object now!" After hearing one of the most air-tight closings in history speaks volumes

    • @GH-oi2jf
      @GH-oi2jf 7 місяців тому

      There were occasional objections throughout.

  • @psychobetha
    @psychobetha 2 роки тому +15

    not gonna lie, while we were watching that closing argument rebuttal by Asst DA Brown, I looked at my sister and said “if he tried to sell me a whole pool full of ice right now, i would buy it.”
    i should mention that where i live it’s currently 12 degrees fahrenheit and there’s 27 inches of snow on the ground 🤦🏼‍♀️

  • @Aj-rm3uy
    @Aj-rm3uy 2 роки тому +29

    The prosecution did an amazing job! I’m so embarrassed for that defense attorney 😳🤭

    • @iveliserojas612
      @iveliserojas612 Рік тому +1

      they did good state did a good job to many edvience

    • @rchristy5767
      @rchristy5767 Рік тому

      Difference between being pero paste and winging it

  • @GenX1968
    @GenX1968 2 роки тому +26

    Haha and when that defense attorney said ok I’m going to object now 🤣🤣🤣🤣 what a Karen

    • @sharilynmeyer7008
      @sharilynmeyer7008 2 роки тому +2

      Are you kidding me!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @MattJDave
      @MattJDave 6 місяців тому

      I think that implying the defense lawyers are liars is generally a bridge too far, but... given their closing argument had them accuse the jurors of being liars I think Brown had the right to take his gloves off a little.

    • @vicko101367
      @vicko101367 27 днів тому

      Hahahah so true

  • @deletathomas2060
    @deletathomas2060 2 роки тому +36

    The judge has such a nice voice . And he has been so nice this entire trial. He would be a awesome story book reader also . Just saying

    • @jbmac
      @jbmac 2 роки тому +3

      Loved him! Wish all judges were so easy to listen to.

    • @rachelsavard851
      @rachelsavard851 2 роки тому +1

      Although his friendly intonations feel so inappropriate when reading out charges about murder

    • @nanettelapore
      @nanettelapore 2 роки тому +2

      You know he just wants to get home, put on his grateful dead album and fire up the bong with his so

  • @kelleycustomartistry5542
    @kelleycustomartistry5542 2 роки тому +40

    This defense chick is real real hard to watch and real real hard to even take seriously. Keep working on it girl.

    • @Kelsey0652
      @Kelsey0652 2 роки тому +4

      I think she did what she could and maybe she’s reading these feeling like crap. He was guilty. Could u defend better?

    • @tj2636
      @tj2636 2 роки тому +4

      There wasn't anything she could do that would have given the jury reasonable doubt. When you have so little to work with against such overwhelming evidence, then all you can do work with what you have.

    • @stickapot3623
      @stickapot3623 2 роки тому +3

      @@Kelsey0652 my cat could have done a better job

    • @stickapot3623
      @stickapot3623 2 роки тому +3

      @@tj2636 you should watch the Ezra McCandless trial. She was guilty as all hell, but her team fought tooth and nail for her

  • @Justice_Beaver
    @Justice_Beaver 11 місяців тому +7

    Defense closing arguments feels kinda passive aggressive. And I hate saying that about a woman in a male dominated field. But the “they even have more tables than us”. Weird

  • @theantagonist2521
    @theantagonist2521 2 роки тому +8

    "There is a cabin. That is a fact." - Defense during closing arguments.

  • @craftyajay9495
    @craftyajay9495 2 роки тому +14

    REALLY IMPRESSED with the way Judge Hyland handled this case, there’s still some hope for a fair trial in some places.

  • @bandekhuda9021
    @bandekhuda9021 2 роки тому +35

    Thank you attorney Brown!! Thank God for competent brilliant people like you, great closing!

    • @GGiblet
      @GGiblet 2 роки тому +2

      Fabulous job!!🙌

    • @HK-kz1wu
      @HK-kz1wu 2 роки тому +3

      It was attorney Raymond who gave the closing.

    • @tinavasquez7206
      @tinavasquez7206 Рік тому +3

      @@HK-kz1wu Brown did the rebuttal and it was fantastic!

  • @Pt-11
    @Pt-11 Рік тому +7

    The videos of the opening and closing statements from the prosecuting and defense attorneys would make amazing teaching aids. What to do and what not to do.

  • @bandekhuda9021
    @bandekhuda9021 2 роки тому +21

    To the defense attorney,
    So you sat there all these days with nothing to say or show as evidence, but now you are all passionate and raging , and looking like a ridiculous fool arguing with the obvious!??
    Not to mention, very unprofessional.

    • @reneataylor9403
      @reneataylor9403 2 роки тому +7

      She would have been better off to just stand up and say “I ain’t got nothin”

    • @teddmented
      @teddmented 2 роки тому +1

      She should get 1/2 a paycheck. That’s all she earned

  • @debrakaiser7700
    @debrakaiser7700 2 роки тому +26

    The prosecution is outstanding!

  • @ourstories2002
    @ourstories2002 2 роки тому +12

    The closing arguments and rebuttal from both prosecutors are A +++ I like they threw a lot of those side comments that some of us are having in mind! “I bet you don’t google …. I bet you don’t google…” “ I don’t know if his girlfriend knows how lucky she is…” Thank you! They are so personable! Love both of them! Attorney Brown is excellent, there was no note reading, not even ppt to go by. he went up and laid out his arguments to the defenses s closing. He believes in his case 100% . He was speaking from his heart in an organized thoughts.
    On the other hand, the defense s performance is so underwhelming. I don’t disagree that they ain’t got much to work with, but it appears that they just gave up! “No thank you” “ Not at this time, thank you” are my favorite answers. they don’t even call most of the witnesses by their names. No explanation at all when questioning the witnesses to create reasonable doubts. I have no idea why they were asking what they asked in the sense of helping the defendant. SMH

    • @gristamshackleford2102
      @gristamshackleford2102 2 роки тому

      defense knew it was a loss and just did what they had to give him a fair trial and get paid. with such a high profile case anything wrong, stupid or weird that anyone can say they did would have been remembered and given them a bad reputation, so i dont blame them for the lackluster performance.

  • @jacksmedullaoblongata7659
    @jacksmedullaoblongata7659 2 роки тому +29

    I've never seen such a lack of defense, yet--- how could they!? He actually gave them every single piece of evidence possible to quickly convict himself. Cold and incredibly sad.

  • @annaover60
    @annaover60 2 роки тому +15

    great job channel 3000

  • @chantillylee
    @chantillylee 2 роки тому +9

    "certain lies mattered, certain lies do not" WHAT!

  • @jacks6632
    @jacks6632 2 роки тому +12

    Great coverage James! Highly informative, through, professional and engaging!

  • @9babyblu
    @9babyblu Рік тому +5

    😂😅😂😅
    That rebuttle!!
    Pros: "His lawyers are asking you to lie for him 1 last time" (10th + x saying it)
    Def: "OK, Im going to object now!"
    💀😂🤣 I love Attorney Brown!

  • @purpleice7277
    @purpleice7277 2 роки тому +47

    I can’t say enough how much I love this judge 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

    • @donnaward8302
      @donnaward8302 2 роки тому +8

      Agreed...The Judge is Excellent! Steady!

    • @bnbakkar
      @bnbakkar 2 роки тому +7

      I was with judge Hyland for my first jury duty and he made it so easy and a pretty great experience. He really is great.

    • @peterevans4028
      @peterevans4028 2 роки тому +3

      He sure likes early and extended tea breaks along with an early finish. No wonder the wheels of justice turn so slowly.

    • @hipe4191
      @hipe4191 2 роки тому +4

      Best judge ever!! Great prosecutor!💯

    • @tinavasquez7206
      @tinavasquez7206 Рік тому

      @@bnbakkar I will be writing him a letter soon. He is deserving of many praises!

  • @catherinearmstrong388
    @catherinearmstrong388 2 роки тому +35

    I can’t believe she accused them of googling! Not smart.

    • @slim5575
      @slim5575 2 роки тому +16

      That was outrageous. Also claiming every person in the room were liars who have covered up their lies. There's a difference between being human & making up an entire fake life for yourself with imaginary characters.

    • @rachelsavard851
      @rachelsavard851 2 роки тому +9

      That was shocking, especially considering she then gets emotional and objects to being called a liar

    • @LemonNerdBird
      @LemonNerdBird Рік тому

      That was seriously horrible. I'd be so offended and upset if I was a juror

  • @jacksmedullaoblongata7659
    @jacksmedullaoblongata7659 2 роки тому +13

    "Everyone lies." The Defense rests.

  • @qamar9134
    @qamar9134 2 роки тому +87

    I hope this comment is read in the context and spirit it’s written. As a cop I believe in following the evidence. It is with this and after listening to all the evidence that I along with 99% of people would say he’s guilty beyond any reasonable doubt. However, this tragic, morbid and evil case can serve as a a good case study for all law students in illustrating how difficult and limited you are as a defense attorney when your client has such overwhelming evidence against them. In cases like this with such depths of evidence the most pertinent question to a suspect/defendant is “ok, if not you then who?” They couldn’t imply let alone indicate someone else may have had the opportunity to commit this crime.
    Having said all of that, this may be controversial but I would be amiss if I didn’t say that just from a legal point of view, (not emotions or my opinions) that I was able to give the defense some credit for the first time in this whole trial, with their closing argument. They have been idle and the cross examinations have practically been non-existent. I don’t believe it will affect the verdict but the closing was good and delivered well, so much better than the opening.
    “Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains taken to bring it to light.” George Washington

    • @carolbell8008
      @carolbell8008 2 роки тому +8

      I hope that people will learn that circumstantial evidence is equal to a eye witness.

    • @JenMakeupDollxo
      @JenMakeupDollxo 2 роки тому

      There is doubt though! That’s the issue… putting my emotions aside I know there’s doubts and many questions unanswered.

    • @TheEASTbaseball
      @TheEASTbaseball 2 роки тому +11

      I applaud anyone who pursues a career in criminal law, but it’s cases like this that deter it for me. I guess as a state appointed defense lawyer, you know what you’re getting yourself into with defendants who are just screwed but this must have been really stressful for them. They really had no assets or angles to play with and it showed throughout this trial.

    • @victorimmature
      @victorimmature 2 роки тому +3

      his defence had no chance . Look at the Evidence against him . what more would you need ? . im guessing the tax payer paid for them to , i dont think ever OJ Simpsons so called dream team could have found away out of this . his team admitted his Guilt , they was after less Jail time .

    • @boottheeeeeee
      @boottheeeeeee 2 роки тому +13

      @@TheOneanjel how is the evidence not overwhelming? Chandler even admitted in writing to the police you falsely made a missing person report

  • @Mandy-nt2cs
    @Mandy-nt2cs 2 роки тому +30

    The one single most telling thing for me.. that proves Chandlers guilt without a doubt.. is at the end of the interview with detectives... when they said "Okay, time to tell us the truth.. We Know Your Parents Aren't HERE WITH US ANYMORE". Chandler has no reaction.. other than deer in the headlights bc he's feeling that cold tingle that runs from your head to your toes when the cop car driving behind you lights you up. Obviously if that were the moment he was finding out his parents was dead, he would have said "WHAT!? MY PARENTS ARE WHAT? MY PARENTS ARE DEAD?!?" or something similar, obviously. It's an undeniable proof of his guilt.

    • @just-nadia-and-keys
      @just-nadia-and-keys 2 роки тому +6

      I agree. That single moment was all I needed to see to know he was guilty.

    • @Kelsey0652
      @Kelsey0652 2 роки тому +2

      Then he starts to nod off too lol

    • @guiltless_candy85
      @guiltless_candy85 2 роки тому +2

      YES!!!! I have said this exact thing this whole time!

    • @panobianca
      @panobianca 2 роки тому +2

      What stood out to me was that he replied "I wasn't there" after detective said they knew he was there when it happened instead of asking "What??? When WHAT happened??"... lol

    • @j.7275
      @j.7275 2 роки тому +1

      Do you have a time stamp?

  • @pyrografix
    @pyrografix 2 роки тому +28

    That defense attorney has rattled off a number of 'facts' that she claims were not proven or provable but, the prosecutor did have facts to base their allegations on! We cannot say how the father was murdered? He had two high caliber bullets in his back!
    I am sitting here shaking my head in disbelief that she is making these comments. She is trying to pull the same thing that got the world's worst mother, Casey Anthony, out of a first degree murder conviction...if you cannot say it was an intentional murder, you cannot convict of FIRST DEGREE MURDER and THAT'S why she got off because the judge didn't allow for any other kind of murder conviction for her. He only allowed for 1st degree murder for a conviction. I hope that doesn't apply in this case because, IMO, this kid killed and then disgraced his parent's corpses.

    • @theophano
      @theophano 2 роки тому +2

      It's obvious he did it but no one saw him do it and there are examples of innocent people, mostly minorities it seems, who were convicted but no one saw who committed the crime.

    • @pyrografix
      @pyrografix 2 роки тому +5

      @@theophano If a minority is on trial for the murder of a parent who is shot a few times in the back with a gun owned by their kid that's loaded with the exact same bullets as the kid has I would hope they would lean towards conviction vs. 'an accident'. Come on! Why even bring that into it??

    • @roxdarmurray6634
      @roxdarmurray6634 2 роки тому +7

      @@pyrografix EXACTLY! @theophano WHAT does RACE have to do with ANYTHING???🙄When there’s NO argument, throw in race!🙄

    • @pyrografix
      @pyrografix 2 роки тому +5

      @theophano I refuse to be have anyone try to make me feel bad for being white. I haven't been a racist. I never owned a slave. I never prosecuted a minority either. For anyone who says they are against racism yet keeps making sure to take every opportunity to identify as black or brown or white, that division will continue as long as you force it on everyone by segregating yourself like that. Stop trying to play victim to the world. I went to a predominantly black school and was the victim of a whole lot of racism so I do understand 'what it's like' so stop with the 'minorities have it worse' being thrown into whatever topic comes up so you either come off as either some sanctified white person or a victimized other race. ALL races face and receive racism. If you don't get that, you have lived a mighty sheltered life.

    • @BullieBelle
      @BullieBelle 2 роки тому +6

      The fact that chandler texted his mom to get soda on the way home in order to delay her (probably to clean up pop’s murder) just about spells out premeditation for me.

  • @maryannanderson2213
    @maryannanderson2213 2 роки тому +13

    When the defense attorney said that the prosecutors did not have the right to say "I don't know" how Krista was murdered because they SHOULD know, how I wish someone had said to her, "Well gee. If your client had left large enough pieces of his mom and dad the prosecution undoubtedly would have known how they were killed." All she did was emphasized the fact that Chandler not only murdered them but he mangled their bodies!
    The more I learn about this guy the more I dislike him. He shot his dad IN THE BACK? I guess the term "back stabber" is not just a term. I dislike him obviously because he killed his parents but I dislike him even more for the fact that he killed his parents to cover a pack of lies he had been telling everyone. I intensely dislike him because he had the audacity to have Cat stay over when he knew the cut up bodies of his parents were in the same house as the house he had her sleep in.
    And speaking of the way he treated Cat, he had the nerve to put paper towels with Bart and Krista's blood on them, in a bag with Cat's name on it and leave the bag on her mother's property. Did he even stop to consider that if the cops had not pretty much known from the get-go that he was the one who had killed Bart and Krista, they might even have arrested Cat for the murders. Bart and Krista's blood on towels in a bag with HER name on it and the bag located on her mom's property would make rather compelling evidence that Cat was involved in the crime. I wonder if he ever even thought of that. Probably not.
    I dislike him because at the age of 23 he is doing NOTHING. He's not going to school. He's not working. He's just sitting in his room all day playing video games. Someone else commented about what an excellent judge presided over this trial and I agree that he was good, but that prosecutor, William Brown, was a masterclass storyteller. I literally have listened to his opening statement a half a dozen times and I sometimes listen to it as I am going to sleep. I don't mind missing some of it because obviously I've heard it all before and of course we know how this all turned out, but he just blows me away.

    • @jaykay1053
      @jaykay1053 2 роки тому +2

      I hear ya. Not the most likeable guy, to say the least.

    • @garywatson
      @garywatson 11 місяців тому +3

      You could make the argument that chandler was laying the groundwork to frame Kat and/or his brother later in this process.

  • @annunciataparchesi1832
    @annunciataparchesi1832 2 роки тому +9

    The defense says, "And I'm not saying you need to be a violent person to commit homicide. You know that". I feel for her. Everyone is entitled to defense and she needs to do her job, but she literally has nothing to work with. No wonder she's flailing.

  • @athenaguan3809
    @athenaguan3809 2 роки тому +22

    The defendant attorney looks incompetence,
    Guilty for that man

  • @carriepearson8509
    @carriepearson8509 2 роки тому +26

    Wow!… the defense attorneys are terrible… they just proved that he’s a liar and he killed his parents because he’s not good at lying. For someone that has difficulty understanding legal jargon, I could’ve done a better job at a defense. There were so many avenues this defense team could’ve taken and they chose to reaffirm that he’s GUILTY!

    • @Dog-qx8mo
      @Dog-qx8mo 2 роки тому +2

      And what are all of these avenues that the defense could've chosen in this case...? The only thing they could do was suggest the prosecution hadn't met their burden of proof. Because there really was nowhere to assert reasonable doubt...

    • @johnpersechini4951
      @johnpersechini4951 2 роки тому +4

      @@Dog-qx8mo could argue parents were overbearing especially the dad. This caused him to lie and eventually snap. There were elements in the brothers testimony. The defense should have jumped on that. I don’t think it would have worked but it’s a more reasonable defense than nothing.

    • @stickapot3623
      @stickapot3623 2 роки тому +2

      @@Dog-qx8mo frame of mind, mental capacity..... there was a lot of avenues

    • @m_christine1070
      @m_christine1070 2 роки тому

      I think he snapped.

  • @kendray9670
    @kendray9670 Рік тому +8

    Dolce is bae. "Two grannies on a lawnmower". I would, without reservation, watch a show starring Dolce and Cress.

    • @VeronnicaG
      @VeronnicaG 11 місяців тому +1

      Hahaha they do seem cool

  • @ww-iy9xx
    @ww-iy9xx Рік тому +8

    I feel bad for these defense attorneys. The evidence is just so overwhelming, but they have to go thru the motions because this psychopathic narcissist won't just acknowledge the truth. I hope he gets the Dahmer treatment in prison.

  • @LB-id6wf
    @LB-id6wf 2 роки тому +27

    Not one ounce of sorrow or emotion. So lucky not to get death penalty! Few deserve it as he does!
    I feel for his brother and the friends of the family. At least the brother is looked after financially

    • @susangowin8763
      @susangowin8763 2 роки тому +3

      Chandler said at the sentencing hearing that his attorneys advised him not to show emotion during the trial. It's always someone else's fault.

    • @didibolter9362
      @didibolter9362 2 роки тому

      I thought that he would receive the Death Penalty.

    • @tinavasquez7206
      @tinavasquez7206 Рік тому

      @@didibolter9362 Wisconsin doesn't have the death penalty, unfortunately. 😡🤬

  • @hummingbird9306
    @hummingbird9306 2 роки тому +4

    Great Channel , excellent commentary James 👍 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @missygilly9917
    @missygilly9917 2 роки тому +20

    Great coverage by Channel 3000, yet again today! Summations by attorneys, as expected. Brilliant by Prosecution, limited by Defence because what could they provide with such overwhelming evidence to his guilt? Let’s hope the jurors reach their decision prudently, with justice for Bart & Krista Halderson. Then Chandler can live (off taxpayers) as he did off his parents for the rest of his life, in prison, so he can’t harm another soul.

  • @neptune4167
    @neptune4167 2 роки тому +14

    The defense's job is to plant doubt throughout the prosecutions case. They either failed their client or they were protecting society; thankless job. Either way I am happy with the outcome.

  • @benweikert6512
    @benweikert6512 6 місяців тому +2

    The way he’s tells his mom to get soda….

  • @Sophia-pj9hm
    @Sophia-pj9hm 2 роки тому +36

    I'm seriously speechless 😳 He got the defense he rightfully deserves. No parent deserves this from their kid, not EVER!!

    • @stickapot3623
      @stickapot3623 2 роки тому

      He is guilty but he deserved a defense, he got nothing

    • @jaykay1053
      @jaykay1053 2 роки тому

      @@stickapot3623 Might he have been better served by a 10-min. closing based on their 10-min. opening? To attempt to attack the Prosecution’s case was a Herculean venture and would have required considerable planning, practice, sophisticated performance skills and legal finesse.
      She is pretty young. Maybe she’ll seek out a legal mentor who can give her some straight, constructive feedback along with suggestions for growth. She has her whole life ahead of her, so anything’s possible. I hope this experience doesn’t jade her.

    • @stickapot3623
      @stickapot3623 2 роки тому +1

      @@jaykay1053 i disagree with you. There many routes they could have gone and did nothing. They made it appear from the OS that they would be challenging what the prosecution laid out as obvious and yet did zero.
      ANd yeah it would have taken considerable planning, that's their JOB,
      why dont u give them a participation trophy,
      who is young? they are middle aged women

  • @Atomica13
    @Atomica13 2 роки тому +6

    Attorney Brown is a remarkable soul and a legend. Well done.

  • @suzannetracy1005
    @suzannetracy1005 2 роки тому +7

    Why in THE HELL did this boy plead not guilty 😡😡😡
    You left one of the largest set of breadcrumbs to follow I have ever seen. What a pitiful defense team but on the other hand WHAT COULD THEY SAY ?
    What could they ask of these impeccably professional detectives, scientists the wonderful family and friends that could give them a shred of doubt as to his guilt ??
    I would have not been able to represent this young man considering even a fraction of the evidence provided. But alas we live in a fair and just legal system, to presume innocence until convinced of guilt.
    No defense attorney in the entire world would want anything to do with this case. He’s a freaking monster. His beautiful girlfriend and her family are absolutely destroyed over what’s happened. Cat was puking while giving her interview ? OMG
    My heartfelt and sincere condolences go out to all involved. I cannot imagine how hard this has been for them. It will be in their mind and hearts for the rest of their days.
    RIP Bart and Krista ♥️
    I’m so sorry this horrible crime occurred to the two of you at the hands of your own son
    Unfathomable 😞

  • @MRS-ty6uf
    @MRS-ty6uf 2 роки тому +9

    The prosecutor didn’t even have to do a thing. In a 30 minute closing statement the defense won the case for them. Wow. What was she doing???

  • @donnaward8302
    @donnaward8302 2 роки тому +11

    Kat...the Girlfriend, will have so very much trauma to overcome. God Bless her!

  • @JaeSwift
    @JaeSwift Рік тому +1

    best comment from live chat: "wonder if he will wear daisy dukes in the pen"

  • @deborahepps9054
    @deborahepps9054 2 роки тому +11

    Such a excellent judge!! And hats off to the prosecution for a beautiful job of putting this trail together and for all the hard work, professionalism of all detectives, deputies, and forensics personal ...excellent WORK to everyone for getting justice for this family!! ❤💯👊👏 RIP Bart and Krista Halderson 🙏😥

    • @bumblebaa2327
      @bumblebaa2327 2 роки тому

      Even the defence lawyers made sure it was a fair trial and they didn't lie to the court. Compliment to them too. Hope the family can heal a bit from this.

  • @yvonneedwards9407
    @yvonneedwards9407 7 місяців тому +1

    Judge: “Defence closing “
    Defense Lawyer: “ No your honour”
    That was my expectation!!!!

  • @mtm00
    @mtm00 9 місяців тому +3

    2:00:00 I resent her suggestion that members of the Jury are liars too! That was so unnecessary.

  • @ewelulu
    @ewelulu 2 роки тому +3

    I 🧡 u , Judge. Pls narrate audio books when you retire.

  • @jeskaaable
    @jeskaaable 2 роки тому +6

    The tone and manner of exposing the closing arguments remind me of a teenager girl trying to convince her friends about some Kardashian gossip

    • @jwm4ever
      @jwm4ever 2 роки тому

      Yes. Exactly. Her tone and mannerisms are so unprofessional and bizarre. Unreal

  • @goldengirl1047
    @goldengirl1047 2 роки тому +5

    Why was there even a trial! How can you possibly defend that?

    • @bumblebaa2327
      @bumblebaa2327 2 роки тому +1

      Chazzle can't believe he gets no points for all his hard work. So he plead not guilty. Then some poor public defenders had to defend him, they had no choice.

  • @kevinbernard9791
    @kevinbernard9791 Рік тому +5

    Opening statement from prosecution guy was fantastic 👏 👌 but closing argument from him was absolutely fkn incredible and totally professional 👏 BRILLIANT JOB GUYS 🙌

  • @samantha7384
    @samantha7384 2 роки тому +19

    I'm embarrassed for the defense attorney's. Eek. State did a impeccable job. Judge is top notch. Justice for krista and Bart halderson. I live in Madison and this case has made Me sick to my stomach knowing what he did to his parents. I hope he never sees the light of day again. I wish wisconsin had the death penalty for this case. 😒

    • @HomeGypsy
      @HomeGypsy 2 роки тому +2

      My daughter’s SO is from Green Bay and they went there for New Years so she could meet his family. I had no idea this was happening! Now I can’t wait to get together and ask if they discussed it! Oh My Word - HECTIC!
      🙀🙀🙀

    • @ShutTheMuckUp
      @ShutTheMuckUp 2 роки тому

      The government shouldn't be in the business of killing people. The death penalty has always been wrong. Killing a killer has never brought anyone back to life...you just end up with more dead bodies... Fun, right?

    • @antivenomadams6369
      @antivenomadams6369 2 роки тому

      I hope his parents are haunting him 👻

  • @susanyoung6632
    @susanyoung6632 2 роки тому +9

    In this case I think the defendants only possible job was to ensure correct procedure was followed. In other words, they defended their client against unfair or not allowed arguments. They never intended to argue he was innocent. At all.

    • @bumblebaa2327
      @bumblebaa2327 2 роки тому

      I agree. I wish they had asked a few questions from experts that they touched upon in closing argument. "Was it Chandler that shot them? Do you have evidence?" I liked how they highlighted trial strategies from the state, such as playing on emotions, the big family photo and the drumming on about him being a liar.

    • @stickapot3623
      @stickapot3623 2 роки тому

      they could have gone through his state of mind or mental capacity or ANYTHING.. He was going down but regardless they did a terrible terrible job

  • @chriso6042
    @chriso6042 Рік тому +3

    Wait did this defense really question the integrity of the jury lol, whether they have to judge based on the evidence.. these are people, with feelings and judgments... i can assure you, making them dislike you isnt good for your defendant

  • @needlepark212
    @needlepark212 Рік тому +6

    This case and its defendant keeps bringing FL vs Grant Amato to my mind. Its similarities and diffrences as well as the lies are very intriguing in a morbid way. Feel sorry for both sibilings in both cases who both lost their parents to murder and their brothers to prison life without parole.

  • @jr7845
    @jr7845 2 роки тому +9

    Justice for Crista and Bart Holderson, my thoughts are with Mitchell and his loved ones, I hope after the juries decision is given, Mitchell is left to grieve for his brother without intrusion.

  • @s_wggns
    @s_wggns Рік тому +3

    I wonder if Chandler is thinking through any of this closing argument like, "nah that's not how it went, I did it this way....'

  • @mitchellmaytorena1137
    @mitchellmaytorena1137 2 роки тому +11

    Not even God can save Chandler now.

  • @scottallison4615
    @scottallison4615 Рік тому +4

    The male district attorney is an absolute savage. This dude is a beast. His opening statement best I've ever heard and now his rebuttal closing the defense just had no chance at all. I heard the opening and knew Chandler was guilty. It was just too good. I almost feel bad for the defense because it was game over before it even started

  • @rachelsavard851
    @rachelsavard851 2 роки тому +7

    While I thought the closing arguments were good, even from the otherwise absent defense, I find it interesting how the defense counsel was so defensive in the concept that she was lying, when she herself implied the jury broke their duty and googled about the case and wouldn't give Chandler the benefit of the doubt