Trying to discourage musicians not to pursue there passion and dream I totally disgusting I don't even own a behemoth album, if a person has a passion for the arts u just go with it man ,that's my opinion.
Playing with a band in real situation gives just pure joy to people. Not everyone wants to be a super star. For many many people it is form of relaxation, therapy and fun and has extremly positive impact for their lives.
When he said there's too many artists with record deals I just laughed. The danger isn't in many many groups. The danger is in fake music being produced and created and sold.
Been playing in bands for 20+ years now. Still playing and managing to have 5-10 gigs a year (pittiful compared to 40-50 I used to have), but I'm happy. Understood fairly early that I'm never going to hit it big, especially by playing metal, but it keeps me occupied and gives me a hobby I enjoy. Work is work, but a guy needs an outlet and I do not enjoy working out, pottery or fishing nor do I have a knack/talent for other types of art. Whomever wants to start a band: go for it, but don't be disappointed - 99.99% of people don't make it in the industry, so just enjoy the process and camaradery that comes with it.
me the opasite ive never been in a band i can play bas and guitar scence i was 15. but i never really practiced i piddled . i and that was colorado in my teens in the 80s. movred back to arizona in 89. i turned 18 iam 51 now ive teched for local bands and my cusins band ihauled equp. w2ork sound for local kiss alive tribute. igot on stage once at a gig ahnd played livin after mkidnight thats it now i do custom art work airbrushing local used shops guitars he wants done ive alwa6ys been artistic but lazy i worked for my dad and i think that what did it inh foor me he ownewd a body shop hotriod shop in thye springs but at 16 high school drop out all he let me do is bondo and prime and aweep the shop . he passed in 2019 and did not get to see my art work evolve i think if he would hace lert nme paint thaty would have ghanged my life to good +++++ but thats life i giueess. oh i think the reason he wouod not let me paint is at 10yr i painted his bowling shirt red with aq can of spray paint . he did not care for that but i figured that was my first custom paint job ..
That's perfectly said, bro and yes, as long as you love the gathering of minds and coming together to make music and perform! That's so important as an outlet of the mind. :)
the bigger money is in europe actually because they can jump around from country to country very quickly and have huge audiences. The USA is great as well but it's A LOT more travelling, which cuts into their profits. I think Nergal was just being a douche and implying that the metal scene is oversaturated with mediocrity but it shouldn't really bother him if hes confident in his bands success. The whole satanism shit is so cringey tbh with behemoth, or any band that themes themselves after satanism.
Hahaha! Yeah, I agree with you regarding the whole satanic thing. Every band I know that's toured Europe have said the same, they make more money and are much more popular than in the US.
Most people just like to play casually with friends, want to record some music they're proud of, and possibly play shows. I've made music with some friends in the past just because it's a bond and something we will have forever to be proud of. Most don't care about ever making a dime. Also what he's suggesting would destroy the gear market and the innovation we have because of it.
Man, I didn't even think of the gear market! Yes, that would take a huge hit and you're right! The camaraderie we gain with friends is everything! Also, woke up earlier and it's the first morning in eight or nine days where I didn't feel terrible! Thanks for the well wishes, Beau!!
Hahaha! William, although I have an incredible LTD JH600, this is actually just my ESP MII Urban Camo with Hanneman Eagle mother of pearl stick-ons along the fretboard. :) I bought them on eBay.
@@louistorres man.... That's kinda like a chick stuffing her bra. I got all excited. You think those will end up peeling off prematurely? The stickers... Kinda want a totenkopf on my hanneman. Jeff was the only guy nobody would say shit to about it.... Me... I'd just get my ass beat.
Gotta quit smoking that Sticker Shop weed, that'll cure that cough, haha. Never made any money playing Metal. Oldies, Blues and Country, yeah and I wore my Pantera t-shirt at those gigs.
Lucky band that came out 50/50 early.if they started now...Well don't start because there are a lot of bands. Mr.Torres i thought when you cough you tried to say fuck of already 😂 Keep it real man, you're an original old school \m/
I dont know about the “everyone wants to tour the US cuz thats where the big $ is” If that is correct then why do half of my favorite bands go to Europe and play multiple tours before I see them once if they even come back and tour in the US? Seems its the other way around?
They all go overseas because the crowds are entirely different. You are treated like royalty when you tour overseas, there's just less of a payout, but in the US, it's a different vibe with more money. So it's actually not the opposite, although I see your point of view. I have friends in huge bands who tour globally, including one of my old bands and that's how it really is.
@@louistorres I was basing that off of just what I see. Im sure there is more to it than I know and may ever know. So I also can see your point, also the treatment being maybe better? That doesnt surprise me too much. Im just happy to see and support bands on tour as much as I can. My city sucks for shows mostly but I am willing to travel a little to see bands I like.
I get what he’s saying to a degree, even though I think he’s wrong. I think everyone who wants to make music and release it into the world or wants to legitimately chase a dream in music should do it. I think that with anything though otherwise you become an old man with a lot of regrets. However, the part I understand out of what he is saying is that the whole industry has changed so much and it’s not any easier to get noticed than it used to be, in fact it’s probably even harder. The whole thing can be very frustrating and even depressing trying to get your music heard or your art recognized. You’ve really got to manage your expectations and remind yourself often that you make music because you love to and not let yourself rate its value only on your level of success with gaining a following or money from it. Basically telling people to just not even make anymore music though or even pick up an instrument is totally stupid and just bad advise. We already have a culture issue in this world with lack of attention spans and lack of drive. Statements like his don’t help.
I have a friend making money playing solo acoustic gigs at retirement homes. He had to learn a bunch of covers from the 40's and 50's. best thing is gigs start and end early !
IMO being in a band is a pretty bad idea for most people, you are far more likely to get paid as a musician doing jingles or heck hoping people download your stock music. It's good if it's something you can treat like going to the gym, but I doubt that's the case. Metal has many one man bands in many genres.
I really don’t think it’s a money thing, I believe when he said that 24/7 line is there are so many bands out there right now you will never get to listen to them all, you will never get to hear the next big break because your listening to or following another band at the time. I would love to be in a band again, but we will have to see what the future holds!
Lois I agree with you on this one. As someone that has played in bands in a underground level for many years this sounds crazy to me. We always helped other bands out. In return it always came back your way. Thats basically how our tours were booked. We also put alot of new bands on
I accidentally sent this before I was done writing. I think sometimes when you mix money and art things can get strange. I hope you feel better soon brother!
Sadly I gave up along time ago. Everything I've tried to start or be a part of devolved into bs because everyone bickered and wanted to be number 1 shot caller. My hats off to those that can deal with it and make it work. I just can't stand drama that comes with it
Trying to discourage musicians not to pursue there passion and dream I totally disgusting I don't even own a behemoth album, if a person has a passion for the arts u just go with it man ,that's my opinion.
imagine someone telling a 15 year old Negral not to start a band...
Playing with a band in real situation gives just pure joy to people. Not everyone wants to be a super star. For many many people it is form of relaxation, therapy and fun and has extremly positive impact for their lives.
Yes bro! You nailed it perfectly!
When he said there's too many artists with record deals I just laughed. The danger isn't in many many groups. The danger is in fake music being produced and created and sold.
I totally agree with you!
Been playing in bands for 20+ years now. Still playing and managing to have 5-10 gigs a year (pittiful compared to 40-50 I used to have), but I'm happy. Understood fairly early that I'm never going to hit it big, especially by playing metal, but it keeps me occupied and gives me a hobby I enjoy. Work is work, but a guy needs an outlet and I do not enjoy working out, pottery or fishing nor do I have a knack/talent for other types of art.
Whomever wants to start a band: go for it, but don't be disappointed - 99.99% of people don't make it in the industry, so just enjoy the process and camaradery that comes with it.
me the opasite ive never been in a band i can play bas and guitar scence i was 15. but i never really practiced i piddled . i and that was colorado in my teens in the 80s. movred back to arizona in 89. i turned 18 iam 51 now ive teched for local bands and my cusins band ihauled equp. w2ork sound for local kiss alive tribute. igot on stage once at a gig ahnd played livin after mkidnight thats it now i do custom art work airbrushing local used shops guitars he wants done ive alwa6ys been artistic but lazy i worked for my dad and i think that what did it inh foor me he ownewd a body shop hotriod shop in thye springs but at 16 high school drop out all he let me do is bondo and prime and aweep the shop . he passed in 2019 and did not get to see my art work evolve i think if he would hace lert nme paint thaty would have ghanged my life to good +++++ but thats life i giueess. oh i think the reason he wouod not let me paint is at 10yr i painted his bowling shirt red with aq can of spray paint . he did not care for that but i figured that was my first custom paint job ..
That's perfectly said, bro and yes, as long as you love the gathering of minds and coming together to make music and perform! That's so important as an outlet of the mind. :)
Nah new bands should start. I don’t even like behemoth so if the new band is better than behemoth I want to hear it.
Would you care if the band was one guy in a bedroom?
@@rahulmenon4357 not at all. This bedroom one man death metal band autonomy to this day wrote my favorite tunes.
the bigger money is in europe actually because they can jump around from country to country very quickly and have huge audiences. The USA is great as well but it's A LOT more travelling, which cuts into their profits. I think Nergal was just being a douche and implying that the metal scene is oversaturated with mediocrity but it shouldn't really bother him if hes confident in his bands success. The whole satanism shit is so cringey tbh with behemoth, or any band that themes themselves after satanism.
Hahaha! Yeah, I agree with you regarding the whole satanic thing. Every band I know that's toured Europe have said the same, they make more money and are much more popular than in the US.
Welllll, why he don’t quit his band and buy a ice cream truck and get a real job? Haha
Exactly! Because he wants everyone's else to make the sacrifice and let him be the one who tours.
A Real Rock'n'Roller does it for the F***ing Love!!!
Yes! I agree with you!
Most people just like to play casually with friends, want to record some music they're proud of, and possibly play shows. I've made music with some friends in the past just because it's a bond and something we will have forever to be proud of. Most don't care about ever making a dime. Also what he's suggesting would destroy the gear market and the innovation we have because of it.
Man, I didn't even think of the gear market! Yes, that would take a huge hit and you're right! The camaraderie we gain with friends is everything! Also, woke up earlier and it's the first morning in eight or nine days where I didn't feel terrible! Thanks for the well wishes, Beau!!
@@louistorres good deal man! Gonna get a ksr pa50 this or next week!
busting out the HANNEMAN! .... wanna start a band?
Hahaha! William, although I have an incredible LTD JH600, this is actually just my ESP MII Urban Camo with Hanneman Eagle mother of pearl stick-ons along the fretboard. :) I bought them on eBay.
@@louistorres man.... That's kinda like a chick stuffing her bra. I got all excited. You think those will end up peeling off prematurely? The stickers... Kinda want a totenkopf on my hanneman. Jeff was the only guy nobody would say shit to about it.... Me... I'd just get my ass beat.
Gotta quit smoking that Sticker Shop weed, that'll cure that cough, haha. Never made any money playing Metal. Oldies, Blues and Country, yeah and I wore my Pantera t-shirt at those gigs.
Lucky band that came out 50/50 early.if they started now...Well don't start because there are a lot of bands.
Mr.Torres i thought when you cough you tried to say fuck of already 😂
Keep it real man, you're an original old school \m/
Write music, have fun, have a day job. Simple as that.
Have you tried an Ampeg VH 150?
I dont know about the “everyone wants to tour the US cuz thats where the big $ is” If that is correct then why do half of my favorite bands go to Europe and play multiple tours before I see them once if they even come back and tour in the US? Seems its the other way around?
They all go overseas because the crowds are entirely different. You are treated like royalty when you tour overseas, there's just less of a payout, but in the US, it's a different vibe with more money. So it's actually not the opposite, although I see your point of view. I have friends in huge bands who tour globally, including one of my old bands and that's how it really is.
@@louistorres I was basing that off of just what I see. Im sure there is more to it than I know and may ever know. So I also can see your point, also the treatment being maybe better? That doesnt surprise me too much. Im just happy to see and support bands on tour as much as I can. My city sucks for shows mostly but I am willing to travel a little to see bands I like.
I get what he’s saying to a degree, even though I think he’s wrong. I think everyone who wants to make music and release it into the world or wants to legitimately chase a dream in music should do it. I think that with anything though otherwise you become an old man with a lot of regrets. However, the part I understand out of what he is saying is that the whole industry has changed so much and it’s not any easier to get noticed than it used to be, in fact it’s probably even harder. The whole thing can be very frustrating and even depressing trying to get your music heard or your art recognized. You’ve really got to manage your expectations and remind yourself often that you make music because you love to and not let yourself rate its value only on your level of success with gaining a following or money from it. Basically telling people to just not even make anymore music though or even pick up an instrument is totally stupid and just bad advise. We already have a culture issue in this world with lack of attention spans and lack of drive. Statements like his don’t help.
I have a friend making money playing solo acoustic gigs at retirement homes. He had to learn a bunch of covers from the 40's and 50's. best thing is gigs start and end early !
IMO being in a band is a pretty bad idea for most people, you are far more likely to get paid as a musician doing jingles or heck hoping people download your stock music. It's good if it's something you can treat like going to the gym, but I doubt that's the case. Metal has many one man bands in many genres.
Rembrant's llife story is fucking horrifying
I'm gonna to become a island boy and just make my money 😂💰
bro thyats a sixck ESP camo .
Also feel better soon bud!
I really don’t think it’s a money thing, I believe when he said that 24/7 line is there are so many bands out there right now you will never get to listen to them all, you will never get to hear the next big break because your listening to or following another band at the time. I would love to be in a band again, but we will have to see what the future holds!
100% it's nothing to do with money. It's all getting an education, that's what i took from it.
Lois I agree with you on this one. As someone that has played in bands in a underground level for many years this sounds crazy to me. We always helped other bands out. In return it always came back your way. Thats basically how our tours were booked. We also put alot of new bands on
I accidentally sent this before I was done writing. I think sometimes when you mix money and art things can get strange. I hope you feel better soon brother!
Sadly I gave up along time ago. Everything I've tried to start or be a part of devolved into bs because everyone bickered and wanted to be number 1 shot caller. My hats off to those that can deal with it and make it work. I just can't stand drama that comes with it