Tom Nichols on What Happened to America
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- Tom Nichols, staff writer for The Atlantic, talks with Matt Lewis about how stunning it is that Joe Biden isn't beating Donald Trump by 40 points in the polls. They also discuss Rep. Mike Gallagher's decision to quit congress , and more!
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Love listening to Tom Nichols sharing his knowledge. Such an interesting guy. 😊
Thanks, I was a white kid in the segregated South, I remember the separate drinking fountains and bathrooms, over half of the Stores were white only and it was unthinkable that blacks could eat in a white restaurant,, the government was quite oppressive, I guess I was woke because i secretly admired MLK.
Same here. Texas. It was blue when I left. Don’t blame
Me. Ha
I just drove coast to coast, CA to FL. Basically uneventful but several times I felt threatened when I mentioned I was from CA and one time in particular I was called a "commie". I don't think I would make the trip again. It really sucks!
decades of right wing am radio and fox have turned around 30 percent of the population into nutcases. it is what it is.
say your from idaho ...
@@direwolf6234say you're from Canada
I wonder how many 'normal' Republican politicians that say they'll vote for trump, actually vote for Biden to get rid of trump withourmt losing their seat.
I am old enough to remember the 70's - those were uneasy economic times. The past few decades have been a cakewalk.
most news agencies are not informing people about trump. that’s a big problem !
Great guest!
As a fairly recent citizen to the US I feel duped that these so called guard rails were really just suggestions.
What's Next: Matt Lewis' Day Off? Matt Lewis' Breakfast Club? Matt Lewis and the Temple of Doom? I agree, I can't wrap my head around half the country taking Trump seriously as a potential world leader. I gather the MAGA nuts have lost the plot, but that anyone who isn't corrupt or mad would contemplate Trump I can't see.
Great conversation, thank you! It's nice to see Red Dawn discussion spreading out of the DMZ to the rest of your channel.
It was only a matter of time!
So good to hear Tom Nichols! He is so smart and interesting!!
I love when analysts look at the big picture spread over years or generations. Great discussion. GOOD News is not celebrated enuf by Dems, or anyone else, it seems. (That's why I started Good News Network. ;)
Trumpers are whiners
I played croquet with Christopher Hill at Sakonnet but not Christopher Steele.
Gadgets and comforts do not equal community bonds and human happiness.
I'd say that social media and its tendency to post anything, true or not is to blame for voter apathy and confusion.
They fell for the Putin attack to divide Americans and his propaganda is coming through Fox and Newsmax. His connections to Murdoch are well known. He is being successful and he knows it. Putin also helped back Hamas and the attack on Israel. Maga is not a fluke. It was well planned attack on the Constitutional order of the US and always a goal for Putin.
Great interview!!!!
On the topic of forgetting the recent past. I’ve seen a few movies from the 80s/90s recently. Like Dirty Harry or silences of the lambs, and the place of women in the workplace now is so so different. I think people under 30 would be shocked. They don;t think that disregard and causal chauvinism could ever return.
It's not exhausting, working an 8hr day at a real job is exhausting
They want complete and total POWER
The most serious issue facing America is the lack of confidence in the voting system. Whether the system is sound is important, but the appearance of reliability is equally important. We need one day, in person voting. A national voting day holiday is a great idea.
You realize that the exact same election deniers would still make shit up to sow discord even if we had a national voting day holiday, vote one day, everyone vote in person?
Also, why’s it have to be one day? I live in Texas. We have almost no vote by mail (almost nobody qualifies), but a long period of early in person voting. You have to show ID to vote. Why isn’t this secure? Why does allowing it to happen on more than one day somehow make it not secure?
Good point about the lack of recent memory of what happened during WWII and segregation. People just can’t imagine anything bad happening when they have had it so good for so long.
Nailed it on MTG. She is an attention addict. She's a Kardashian that couldn't get on a TV show, so she found politics.
I got a Trump ad while watching this. 😂
Lol
Matt reminds me of Eric on that 70s show..l.
Good discussion.
Stop excusing failure to stand up to the idiocracy. I knew in 2017, the first time Republicans acquiesced to Trump it was too late.
I would love to have a serious conversation with someone from the “before” Republican Party. I’m an Oklahoma
Democrat. Always been a Democrat. Born and raised in Texas. AT THE BORDER. LaJoya, Texas. We lived on 1500 acres that was surrounded on three sides, like a horseshoe, by the Rio Grande River. Only white kids in the whole school. I’m one of 6 daughters. I’m #5.
I have seen ALOT. I was astounded when republicans embraced George w Bush. I voted for his father. First time I voted. Ever. He just seemed like a good man to me. (Looked a lot like my dad)🙄😊
But I never voted for another Republican after him.
I feel like anyone could have seen this coming. You guys got so far right that it was a breeding ground.
I never thought I’d quite bill Kristin. It’s the upside down times tho and we have to stick together. We can and we do know how to do this.
Left wing terrorism?
That’s what I mean.
Is capitalism even sustainable? What is the long term theory? Are the bottoms lines supposed to grow indefinitely?
In 2003 the national debt was 3.9 trillion. Look at all the great things we've done since. Iraq, Afganastan, Libya, Syria, Ukraine, and Gaza. 20 years later our debt stands at 34 trillion. The recent 1.2 trillion budget deal had a little over 70 % for military and defense spending. You wonder why people are disillusioned? I'm a boomer and I've noticed the most hawkish people are the ones who have already had success. Young people today will not have the same opportunity as people did 50 years ago.
Chris Hayes praised the economy in a smart way. It was something like, American capitalism at it’s best fails many Americans but in comparison to pass economies and expectations of where it would be now, the economy under Biden is a remarkable success. JVL of the Bulwark basically say the same thing more bluntly
Its wild to make the case that Trump could not have happened earlier than he did and then later tell us about terrible racism from the past like they wouldn't have embraced him then... Just wild
Gee guys, quit the whining. So you don't have a candidate to vote for. Join the club. I consider myself a social liberal/ fiscal conservative. There's a lot of us out here and we don't feel like we've ever had anyone to vote for. The best I hope for at every election is a split ticket so none of them make anything worse even if nothing is gonna get better.
Hey! I’m an undecided. For the life of me I can’t decide if Trump is narcissistic with dark triad traits or an actual full blown Dark Triad Narcissist.
That 27:40 story about the cop who hates Jews is amazing. Does that mean Tom, even though he's a conservative, supported the Warren Court?
He is a traitor
I loved that Tom Nichols immediately goes to his both sides is him after complaining about it… In his little child’s jigsaw puzzle, he says Democrats were hair on fire crybabies, and now the right is… In the 80s Reagan’s revolution left most Americans high and dry. I guess he didn’t see that from his lofty Harvard job perspectiveincome equality went on hyper overdrive once Reagan/the top tax rate and tax the middle class to pay for it… Prove me fucking wrong
5:47: Did Matt give the belief that "transgender [sic] story hour" wouldn't destroy America as an example of Scher's distinctively liberal confidence in American institutions?
I don’t express that very clearly or eloquently. It could be anything. Gays in the military. The trans issue, in general. Illegal immigration. Things that (fairly or not) conservatives oppose(d). But here’s the thing: Even if these things don’t hurt America, in and of themselves, if they create a right wing backlash (that leads to electing people like Trump), then they hurt America. How much can she take? I don’t know. But at some point, there comes a breaking point.
That’s not to say we should never change or evolve. But Burkean conservatism favors slow evolution and prudent reform.
@@MattLewis Gotcha, thanks. I think that's fair. I don't think those issues are "intrinsically" threatening to the country, but agree that, depending on how they're pursued or addressed, could contribute, and maybe have contributed, to a backlash that would pose an existential threat.
If you're interested, I strongly recommend Haney-Lopez' work on this topic. He's researched messaging for racial justice movements that doesn't prompt backlash from whites (and even often wins their support).
Why do conservative men all look alike. So ridged and stiff….all of them. You can see it in their body language, their hair. I never heard of Matt but knew instantly he was conservative.
Love the show. It's become must listen to.
I think the voters in the middle just hate the idea of handing power to the wings of either party. They'd vote for Biden if they thought he would be vigorous enough to resist the radical wing of his own party. Sadly, once he's reelected, there are no guardrails, so fearing that choice makes sense. You don't want to legitimize or normalize MAGA ideas either.
Would you kindly share the left wing threat you equivocate with a movement that tried to violently overthrow election results at the exhortation of it's national leader in the last 4 years? I'll hang up and listen, thanks.
Biden is a life long moderate. As we all have, he has changed with the times but never would bend to radical. Listen, consider but never abandon his principles. That's what being old makes it good. We old people do not abandon our values.
@@rainee47 If Biden stakes out moderate positions that draws red lines between himself and something like the AOC faction, I think he wins reelection. If he doesn't, and Trump can frame him as a trojan horse for more radical Democratic ideas, I think you have a different outcome. I do not know what Biden really stands for other than not Trump.
@@rainee47 If Biden said something like I was elected in peacetime, but I find myself in the middle of a cold war with active regional conflicts going on, so I'm going to have to reconsider some of my previous positions on green energy/making America energy independent, defense spending, healthcare, controlling deficits, and we are fully going to back Ukraine to win the war, that would be enough to reassure most voters in the center that he's not a Trojan Horse for progressives. BTW when was the last time he said anything on healthcare? Dems beat the tar out of Republicans for years on that issue.
@@rainee47 I would have thought that Biden would take advantage of the aftermath of Covid to say we can make some changes to healthcare delivery to be better prepared for the next crisis. But, nothing yet.
Has Matt Lewis taken on the MSNBC model of association? It’s been a while since this alleged conservative spoke with a Trump supporter. I’d think if you can get the authors of a contemptible book like “White Rural Rage” on the show, you could find time for even a grudging Trump voter.