The Trump movement is turning America fascist w/Jeff Sharlet | The Chris Hedges Report
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- Опубліковано 26 жов 2023
- Jeff Sharlet has spent two decades covering the intersection of extreme Christian nationalism and the far-right. In his new book, Undertow: Scenes from a Slow Civil War, he gives snapshots of a country rapidly devolving into a Christian fascism state. He captures the rage, the despair, the dislocation, the alienation, the aesthetic of violence, and the magical thinking that are the foundations of all fascist movements-forces that are now coalescing around the Trump-led Republican Party. The bizarre conspiracy theories and buffoonish quality of many who lead and embrace this movement, such as Republican Rep. Lauren Boebert, make the use American fascists easy to ridicule and dismiss. But Sharlet implores us to take them seriously as an existential threat to what is left of our anemic democracy. Jeff Sharlet joins The Chris Hedges Report to discuss his new book and the rising tide of Christofascism threatening our democracy.
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Hate to break it to people, but America has been fascistic for decades, at least by original popular definition of "fascism".
Corporate oligarchs have been controlling government policy since before WW2, and has only become more prevalent to the average person in recent years.
true
The is oligarchy instigated WWII as a tool to break the grip of European colonialism and gain access to the resources within...
Exactly --- read Adam Winkler's book, WE THE CORPORATIONS, to understand the history of corporatism in America. Winkler doesn't focus on fascism per se, but it's clearly revealed throughout the book, especially from the period beginning around the late 19th century. Things started to turn nasty once corporations gained the rights of "persons" under the Constitution, with corporate attorneys citing the 14th Amendment as "justification." It's been all downhill from there.
Sure, but the "patriots" on the right have been whining about how unfair it is to tax them or regulate their businesses the whole time. It's a joke for apologists to pretend that they agree with the left on minimizing the power of the "elite."
It has had a serious fascist bent but the Auto Workers victory is something that by definition could not happen in a fascist state. Are we terrible settler-colonists? Yes, but to simply declare us as a fascist state borders on absolving people of responsibility.
"To find the Tyrant simply see who you are not allowed to criticize."
And it sure ain’t Trump
"The Southern Poverty Law Center described Storm as a producer of “anti-Semitic and racist material” who pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography in a federal trial in 2008. The BBC described him as a neo-Nazi."
How can a guy who acts so smart not be able to see what is real. Just look at these last three years, my God.
@@petemorton8403 Because CH is an establishment figure, fighting the "fascists". By combining some truths with lies and have these, mostly "intellectual" types of actors, doing their misleading stuff from both sides (or rather different angles, but mostly from two well recognised blocks) you can skillfully sow discontent, anger and ultimately conflict within a population. And surprise surprise, there is nothing the "elites" like more than pitting the slaves against each other, rather than themselves.
Agreed 💯
This is NOT going to end well- for ANYBODY.
Yep. Even the DoD was warning, months ago now? That their, I assume, highly advanced wargame simulations- that no matter how they tweaked the parameters - it would end in nuclear confrontation - isnotreal being the most hostile and essentially su1c1dal actor, who have been using this blackmail technique since 1973.
Fully agree.
This is very disturbing as to how it seems many have lost complete reason.
I find it very disturbing as a canadian that US Democrat supporters are the only people on the planet who cannot see or refuse to see Joe Biden's obvious cognitive decline. I will never forgive or forget the gross irresponsibility of the US Democrats for foisting a man with dementia in as Leader of the Free World in these very dangerous times internationally.
No Christian preacher should preach fascism or greed or mistreatment of any group. That is far from Jesus’ words and actions.
But they do. I've listened to it most of my life.
No it isn't. Do you know why he was crucified? I'll give you a hint, it looked a lot like January 6th. Also, look up Judas the Galilean, who is thought to be the real Jesus.
What?@@xNeonWarlockx
If you are an Enemy of Trump you are my Enemy.
@@DeaconBlues25 the cleansing of the temple?
If fascism is the merger of state and corporate interests the the FACT that almost all politicians act as lobbyists for corporations then yeah, fascism is a fact in modern culture.
Correct
LOL. The merger of state and corporate interests is the communism that is the darling of the left
Absolutely. All assisted by the US Supreme Court.
_"If fascism is the merger of state and corporate interests"_
It is not. Mussolini has never said such a thing. Common misquote. Fascism was all about the State. There was no merging. There was no corporate power and its interests were irrelevant.
@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.not according to my research - he made it very clear - cooperation within the the state / private entity was the rule.
Those who don’t study history are doomed to repeat it. Yet those who do study history are doomed to stand by helplessly while everyone else repeats it.
The challenge for us is to figure out a way to express what we see happening to those that may not be part of the cult, but view our ringing of the "fascist" warning bell as hysteria. These are the ones we need to convince l.
“History is nothing more than a set of lies agreed upon.” ~ God
So nothing is stopping us (by "us" I mean the left) from preparing ourselves for what these two believe is the inevitable: a second civil war. And by preparing, I mean buying firearms. I know we all want and wish for a peaceful resolution to where some people are headed. But suppose they aren't the reasonable type. Not too far fetched of an assumption. We need to be able to do something more than call our local representative in Congress. Or expect that the police or national guard will stop an insurrection once it's begun. First of all, hald of them, and probably more than half, will be the ones fomenting secession. And they are definitely carrying major fire power. We can't let ourselves be caught flat footed with our pants down and nothing but our peace signs and a Bible in our hands. Going back to Germany in 1930's. The Jews were outnumbered, yes, but they were also out armed. Imagine if they had freedom we still have in the Second Amendment. It's not there just for those on the right. We too are allowed to own weapons for our self defense. And simply having firearms isn't enough. We are at the point where we need to receive training in warfare. We need to know about sabotage, tactics, and military organization.
I hope I'm wrong, but more and more it doesn't look like it. I've been predicting civil war for ten or more years. And I've been mentally preparing for it the entire time. Soon, I will be purchasing some weaponry and I will be studying battle field strategies and improvisational defenses. I won't be one of those victims obeying them. I will be the one who knocks.
Keep an eye on the truckers. They will be the first act. When store shelves start to become empty and the food supply becomes critical, that's when you should be ready. Truckers will be able to shut down every major highway in the country at the drop of a hat. In California, 10 million people rely upon the food that comes down the Interstate 5 from the Central Valley. All it would take is a dozen big rigs to jackknife on The Grapevine to shut down all of Southern California's food supply. Then a few pounds of dynamite on the train tracks out around Mojave and voila. Civil War. Mark my words. But don't wring your hands in worry. Get going and be prepared.
@@Therecouldbehope God does our washing once a week. Other than that, he has no opinion in my house.
@@gadaffi1000does your washing? What does that even mean?
We need to get money out of politics. Period! Nonstop!
It’s gonna be like getting military weapons off the 2nd amendment. 80% of the country want reform on both subjects, but these politicians are not abiding by their constituents. 😢
Capitalism gives money to people with high iq that’s the whole point.
absolutely! the best, most democratic. time-tested system, is the Swiss political system.
Not to mention criminals, rapists and crazy people.. which are all apply to the Drumf.
This is probably the biggest globbly guck I've ever heard masked as intellectual. It's really interesting to call a Trump rally a "far right" event. The conservative values are the constitution, fascism goes against the constitution. The 2 can not exist because it's the right of the people vs the right of the leader. Here are some facts to consider: Trump wanted to build the wall and ban Muslim countries but let in more legal immigrants than Obama. You guys really have gotten so delusional into believing your books as fact.
This failed to make the connection of fascism and modern day. You can't use the word fascism to define the correlation between then and now.
This is how fascists label others for persecution.
America is semi-fascist. Trump as a political idea is just pushing it to full. Trump as a person is an opportunist.
Exactly.
The most uncomfortable symptom and not the systemic illness.
Damn! You nailed it.
newsflash! all the western world is fascist, because all the western world is corporativist (no the same as corporatocracy or cronyism) learn your definitions, fascism isn't about clsoed borders, it's about sectoring the economy by "guilds" and letting the businesses dictate public policy. All of those people in florida that wanted disney to step in and protect trans rights? yeah they are fascists, because they believe that businesses should dictate public policy.
The mega corporations, corrupt government, and big bankers are the problem.
The problem is corporations are people, democracy consists of an antiquated 2 party system tug of war which the Republicans refuse to reform. Ranked choice voting, and national popular vote.
Fight the good fight. No to fascism!!
Ignorance is the greatest threat to democracy!
Democracy is the greatest threat to democracy.
@@stanleyshannon4408 no stupidity is
Since when has America been a democracy, please supply your evidence this should be good
The USA is a republic, never a democracy.
Aah good ol Democracy...Where the 51 % can oppress the 49 %...Where you can vote for the red a**hole or the blue a**hole...both funded by the same circle wealthy elites. Same agendas with different marketing. What a sacred system.
That's what's great about America; freedom of choice! We have so many varieties of fascism to choose from!
hahaha... irony, right?
Fascinante!
Jesus Christ 2024
I'll take the Jesus Fash over the Homo Fash any day.
😀😀😀 your response is epic and you're totally right...IF DONALD TRUMP WERE FASCIST THEN WHY WAS THE FBI SPYING ON HIM WHEN HE WAS PRESIDENT LIVING IN THE WHITE HOUSE??? THE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF IS TECHNICALLY THE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF OF THE MILITARY AND INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY.. DON'T TELL OUR INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY THAT BECAUSE THEY GO ROGUE AND DO WHATEVER THEY WANT AND THEY DO WHATEVER THE LEFTIST ADMINISTRATION TELLS THEM TO & MANY OF THEM DID THE SAME FOR GEORGE BUSH AFTER SEPTEMBER 11TH OR
“The snake” really is an excellent metaphor for Trump. “You knew what I was when you took me in”. Yes the Trump supporters know. They just don’t think the snake will bite them
I thought that's what he was talking about. But I've never heard the full context of it until this video.
Man, I tell you, when I saw drumpt recite those lines at a rally and they were googoo-eyed and applauding. Scary shet. This is real.
Trump delivered 3 years of peace and prosperity until the Liberal International Order Snakes took over and proceeded to gnaw away for 4 years.
It's worse than that, they do not realize that Trump is the snake and they are the old lady in the story.
Is it snowing in Denver ?
Fascism always uses societal decadence as a reason to go fascist yet the fascists are always the most decadent
Very well said!
Give an example.
@KingBrandonm - Nice!
Yes! Look at the Repub Party the churches. They want to eliminate what they themselves r doing.. what’s that Shakespeare quote? “Me thinks he duth object too much”.😅😅
So true!
When fascism comes to America it will appear as a cross draped in a flag
That's a good looking flag tbh. Maybe drop the 50 stars on the corner and just keep the red and white stipes. And have an Order of Christ cross in blue.
But the Cross is centred on the flag. Not in the corner.
Signifies that the knights templar, the Christian crucade and the order of Christ comes before the country.
Dissolves the 50 states/stars for a unified blue sky (cos space is fake). Through God, we can make heaven here on earth.
NO. It actually has come in the colors of the rainbow 🏳🌈
The Cross ☦ has uplifted and unified nations. That can only be a good thing.
wrong, religion has done way more damage and death than good, BTW the confederate flag is a cross (St Andrew's) and last I heard the cross bearing traitors were responsible for death,torture and the subjugation of a brilliant, beautiful people. evil? you decide!
@theunknowncommenter725 interesting idea. The problem is to change the stripes to rainbow you'd have to ignore any history and heritage. I don't know how flags are chosen. In Australia we had a vote much like an "Australian Idol".
The level of insanity in this video is simply astounding. It’s like a parallel universe.
It’s bizarre. Trump is the only think holding it back. It just shows you. The left have been played like a fiddle. Which is why I abandoned it an embraced anti-war populism. Left or right
It's descriptive of MAGA call and response. This is why the Cambridge Analytica program for targeting neurosis was able to weaponize the FB profile data worked so well. Directed disinformation was aimed at specific influencers based on their psychodynamics. Stanford had already verified the predictive accuracy of the data. Pinpoint marketing similar types with targeted messages worked exceptionally well.
Have you not seen a BLM riot or antifa riots? Dozens are killed and millions in property burned and destroyed. I've never heard of people dying at a Trump rally ( except a trump supporter). BLM burned down a church on Capitol grounds. Antifa took over several city blocks for weeks. People killed, rapes and who knows what else but the media says nothing about it. That's the true insanity
@@jaustin777 All that word vomit to project your subservience to multi-billion dollar media corporations onto those who DO NOT bend to the will of Media Propaganda?
Try too trump trump lol
“In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own. It is error alone that needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.”
~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson, in a letter to Horatio Spofford, 1814
Hence the separation of church and state
@@susanyeadon6657 “Strongly guarded, as is the separation between Religion and Government in the Constitution of the United States, the danger of encroachment by Ecclesiastical Bodies, may be illustrated by precedents already furnished in their short history.” ~James Madison; Monopolies, Perpetuities, Corporations, Ecclesiastical Endowments
And with Secularism, the Scientists are the priests....not all, but some: 80% just go along with 10% hoping they'll be spared if they play dead. Another 10% form the resistance and their task is to drain at least half of the 80%
I really appreciate Jeff Sharlet's putting the fascist underpinnings of American christian fundamentalism in the broader historical context. So much of our history has been interwoven with this mindset. "manifest destiny". Cognitive dissonance of the "believers" leaves a wide vacuum filled with disinformation, prejudices, fear and violence.
*They are almost as crazy as people who like Karl Marx..*
Yeah, but the quotation mark goes after the period 😁
Oh, boo-hoo to your head! 😂
And guess which 20th Century dictator and his minions were inspired by Manifest Destiny?
Hint: he wore a Charlie Chaplin moustache and not a normal one like Stalin's.
They were also inspired by the USAmerican doctrine of Jim Crow.
Indeed
It is America's great sin that nearly half of all adults can barely read to the Grade 6 level. There is an old movement which encouraged learning how to read. Frontier College. Canada. Where each person who can read has the responsibility to teach one other person who needs to read. There is great opportunity to move America in a different direction.
Well, thank God there are audio books so anytime can be story time and just sit back and listen and learn. It's my favorite way to read a book these days and it's how I "read" "Undertow."
The problem is many PAB cult members have no interest in literacy. My extended family of Christian white nationalist fascists are perfectly happy with their bible, the PAB, and Q. Sad but true.
@@mandyinseattlethank what, Escapism from reality?
Victim impact statements treated like bird cage liners by the willfully ignorant.
My home received an arson threat from a smiley unapologetic catholic cleptomaniac, but arsons never really produce afterlives, even though he really won't clinically treat his culty schizophrenic themed narcissism, escapism.
A bad direction as those that can't read are being emotionally brainwashed towards autocratic rule.
The direction of fascist Canada where the government jails/punishes/silences dissent? Great idea! Freedom of Speech is a lie anyway
Like war, fascism is downstream from greed. Thank you.
So succinct😂😂😂😂😂.. and who are the richest people in which party??? Democrats...look it up!
@@terrific804 We have 2 right wing parties. The political left died with the assassinations in the 60s. That's why they were carried out.
@@brianjacob8728 try to tell that to those who voted for Biden
@@terrific804 Biden is right wing. His political career was backed by the credit card industry, in particular Chase (Rockefeller owned). Has Biden gotten us out of any of these bogus wars? No. Taken on the banks? No. There is nothing left wing about the man and never has been.
@@terrific804 try to tell that to those who voted! There, fixed it for ya!
Hedges has long been top of my list of favorites
Greed is the father of all discrimination in every form
You cannot lie your way to the truth
You cannot steal your way to prosperity
You cannot isolate your way to freedom
You cannot kill your way to piece
Fear of personal loss, is the mother of all fear
No that's like saying that ice cream causes suicide....really bad fallacious thinking.
Even educated people struggle to realize what the word "fascism" means
Maybe they don't care, they just like the label no matter what.
But smart people have no such struggle.
The greater concern is the totalitarian power dynamic. They all are opposed to that.
Facism meaningv( if you don't do what the people in charge want you get punished)
@@criticality2056 They always are what they accuse their competition of being. It's like talking about one's own self, using a replacement descriptor.
It ain't what the president can do for the people it's what the president can do for the ruling class.
not even can, the globalist' dislike open endings. What the candidate will do for them.. (::)
Shawney!!!
It is not what America can do for you but what you can do for Donald J Trump. 🙄
what exactly is it about the Biden policy's that's helping the people? i can name more than 6 that are hurting, Clearly your information is coming from one area/side i guess the ignorant can sleep easier not knowing all sides.
Yes and what Creepy Joe can do for his pocket book
Amazingly, Lindsey Graham is asserting that Trump's choices of words and phrases, such as "poisoning the blood of America," don't matter, that there's some underlying idea which is okay (like "we don't have sufficient control of our borders") and that's all that Trump's rhetoric conveys to people who understand him. That's a very dangerous notion, Lindsey.
Its fact....but you wouldn't know a fact if you think this video is anything other than propaganda.
It was steered towards facism since 1949 plus the longer a country is at war the stronger facism becomes so....
Right wing install Truman on FDR's last administration to control the dynasty. Henry Wallace was VP from 1940-44 and the motivating force for progressive changes made by FDR. The DNC prevented his nomination for re-election in'44. Put in a pencil pusher (push over) Harry Truman for the VP in '44. Truman wasn't even told about the Manhattan project until FDR died! DNC rigs most elections.
And Trump started no new wars - & that is why the Oligarchy of war profiteering billionaires and their stooges in the Political Establishment hate him : Trump threatens their war profiteering.
"The Profits of Religion" by Upton Sinclair was written in 1917
And Elmer Gantry was written by Sinclair Lewis a few years later but it's largely ignored by high school curriculum planners because they are too chicken shit to challenge the Christian right.
Fascism is a political ideology that emerged in the early 20th century and is characterized by dictatorial power, extreme nationalism, suppression of political dissent, and strong control over the economy and society. Fascist regimes often promote authoritarian leadership, a single-party system, and the glorification of the nation or race.
It's important to note that fascism is widely considered to be an oppressive and dangerous ideology due to its disregard for human rights, its tendency toward violence and aggression, and its promotion of discrimination and exclusion. Fascist regimes in the past, such as those led by Adolf Hitler in Germany and Benito Mussolini in Italy, have caused immense suffering and devastation.
It is crucial to remain vigilant and protect the values of democracy, equality, and individual freedoms to prevent the rise of fascism or any other authoritarian ideology.
By your definition the Democratic party is by far the more fascist political force in the US. Their goal is single party rule, merging of corporation and government, suppression of dissent, censorship and surveillance of the public. I don't see Trump or the Republican party doing any of those things.
What a great succint summary. I'd copy this and send it to others if I could.
A community service. Great example of citizenship
I've floated the idea of including some basic civics/government/American history education within basic training of our armed forces.
Today's political environment has revealed weaknesses in American democracy. When it comes to patriotism, it's a whole lot more than loving your country and waving a flag. Patriotism indicates willingness to protect and defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic.
When we're unsure about the Constitution and when it calls on us to defend it, you might not be sure as to when, where, and why. Especially things like domestic threats to the Constitution.
He lied, then people died. He lost, then he lied, then people died.
That's very easy to understand
You just described democrats in your comment.
NOW in March 2024, hes using his new term "Migrant Crime" to imply that this is a huge wave coming to "your" home town.
This is one of the best conversations I’ve listened to on psychology on Trumpism. I just watched someone else talk about why the Christians evangelicals support this turd of a man. I’ve read too much history to not take this very seriously. These same conversations were happening in Germany in early 1930’s.
Tens of thousands of Islamic Jihadists from the middle East and thousands of chinese soldiers have been let into the US via the Southern border by you Democrat President. Soon you and all future generations will look back on the time Trump was president as the last golden era of America.
@@logician3641😂😂😂
You just used an ad hominem argument when you called a human being a turd. That was also done by the Nazis in the 1930s.
Why do you believe him? I say because TDS is mind virus.
Could it be TDS? it's real ...
"Fascism's big lie is inevitability". Thanks. That's really useful. It reminds me of Thatcher preaching neoliberalism saying, "There is no alternative". There is and there was.
And there will be.
It's unsustainable beliefs sooner than later people will realize it's just fear mongering, like threat to democracy. ULTRA MAGA, RIGHT EXTREMISTS for anyone to believes that half the country 75 million. IT'S NONENSE.
For thousands of years, people thought there was no alternative to slavery. People who lived under feudalism also thought it was the only way of doing things and accepted it as natural and God-given. Like every system of governance that came before it, capitalism will eventually collapse under the weight of its internal contradictions. The concentration of wealth into fewer and fewer hands at the expense of everyone else, leading to increasing levels of social instability, can't go on indefinitely. Just ask the French and the Russians.
@@jamesgravil9162 Chomsky points this out as well using these same examples.
@@MCJSA So did Marx, I believe.
It's easy to see Trump doing all these things but it's impossible to not notice both parties doing the same thing.
And the fascist fasces on the wall of the house of representatives since 1948. Makes them late to notice both parties are corporate fascists.
Yeah, i don't see a mass violent fundamentalist fantasy coming anywhere out of anyone considered a democrat or "the left".
You told the truth 💯💯💯
The divisive distracting theater on "both sides" has become more glaringly obvious in recent decades. Perhaps they'll throw Don the con under the bus, but in the meantime, he's playing his role quite well.
@@celticsunise4ever absolutely. The perfect villain
That was an excellent conversation. Thank you for that.
that is bull wake up this is part of the great divide and conqur, In case you have not noticed we are peacefull these people preach hate yhou think that is a good thing use your critical thinking just what they are saying is all wrong open your mind do some research seek the truth on this hatred group of people anyhone who tries to divide are not nice people its that simple because you think differently then I do I don't dislike you at all we are all here to help each other understand things more clearly
The unhinged idiocy of political pundits today is on another level.
This has significant intellectual verification. This is not punditry. This is Social psychology based on hard science about human psychological structure. The facts of this consciousness development assessment of propaganda and political division and psychology was used by Bannon for Robert Mercer through creating the Canadian arm of Cambridge Analytica.
Yes words have no meaning anymore because of the corrupt corporate media and Democrats
As a bi racial black man who lives in north Idaho this discussion is 1000% correct! There has always been this undercurrent in the church and on the far right! I grew up knowing it as the John Birch Society republicans always kept it in the closet and I’m telling you now, it has taken over the Republican Party to its detriment and that is bad for America when one party is weaker then the other it leads to extremism. Division and violence!
This is not punditry and is certainly not unhinged idiocy. Rather this is insightful and reasoned observation based on facts and an understanding of political and cultural tropes and how they operate to create real effects within society.
Well said
Thank you Chris for your work!
From whench has all this ill will, physic illness, wtever, fester, some will claim good intentions
Deep State is a clearly defined term created by former Congress Staffer Mike Lofgren. It's not a cuckoo idea - Chalmers Johnson explains part of it in the Why We Fight documentary.
Richard Hofstadter wrote a book in the early 1960s called "The Paranoid Style in American Politics".
Very interesting guest and interview, Mr. Hedges!
To understand the deep state watch the old British tv show "Yes Minister" and how the British civil service really runs the country.
And let's be real, there has been more left leaning journalists and activists pointing it out for decades. The cia and Intel community have been doing unconstitutional acts of spying and making moves favorable to the establishment uniparty interest.
the problem is that term has been coopted. Trump Maga and rightwing media who sceam it towards any real or imaginary thing arent talking about anything Chalmers Johnson or Hofstadere were talking about. the Dismantle the Deep State bumper sticker crowd are talking about something else, much of it paraniod. And they are so eager to establish a federal government they can finally own, and the non-billionares filling Trump rallys, clicking on Fox or worse and going on about the Deep State are happy to let em have it as long as they get to use part of that power to finally get rid of everyone who doesnt look like them, or at bare minimum put em back in their place like it used to be.
True it has been bandied about for decades - the difference being - the actual deep state that they were referring to are exactly who the maga apartachiks are. The deep state that Trump is referring to is the civil servants that are trying to adhere to the law . Just another case of their ongoing projection .
The "Snake" was NOT about immigrants. It was a blunt reference to Hillary Clinton. I was there when he used it.
Works just as well for immigrants at this point though...
@@agayactornamedmichaeldougl6289 No offense, but why add the "gay" to your moniker?
Exactly!!!
@@jeffmilum9001 because it's funny, that's why.
The 'animals' was also about the M-13 gang members and not about immigrants.
33:59 ... I think there's a subconscious fear of - "they're gonna do it to us, because we did it to them" (or a more likely case now "because they've been taught that we did it to them").
Yeah that's what the left does every day when they suppress free speech and freedom.
What everyone doesn't talk about is the outside reaction if they USA becomes a fascist state. They Europeans would panic and watch very closely, because they know what will happen. I don't think that the Europeans would be able to avoid getting involved . But it's hypothetical and hopefully they USA doesn't go down that path that they World has seen already.
"I am being indicted for you," said Pastor Donald. Like a messiah. And the soothing church music plays in the background.
I have often thought that if you disregard what Trump says, but listen to the rhythm and pauses, he sounds like a comedian delivering his lines. I think that is part of his appeal, his dark humor.
Yup..he's a walking bad joke
He's definitely a carnival barker
If Trump gets in in 24/25, how do people fight fascism? Even during the month of police riots in Portland, Antifa was this small ragtag group of individuals who were more into self defense and defense of peaceful protestors than anything. And they closest they came to violence during those police riots and the protests that each preceded each of them was vandalism and setting street fires. Yet law enforcement came down on them and the protestors HARD. At least in the Weimar Republic there were swarms of leftist, antifascist street fighters who were the equal of the brownshirts. Yet after Hitler gained power all but the Nazis were purged and the rest was history. So are people here are just going to sit around and let the Nat-C's round everyone up that they don't like???
You do realize the antifascists are only on the right? The terrorists who you called peaceful protestors destroyed more property than we've seen in a long time. Please get a clue.
"vandalism and setting street fires" - just that little exception eh?
If Trump was HItler there would have been no 2020 election and you would be in a political re education camp or worse. You Dems in the USA are working yourselves into sheer lunacy.
There are few nat cs in the US. The only on rounding up people and repressing speech and freedom is the left. These are called facts.
Well, they'd be wise to say "no" to outsiders with cash who support them. Or at least ask why. And your argument is flawed: Portland was allowed to fester because those scapegoated as authoritarians didn't take the bait.
We need REAL DEMOCRACY.
Government isn't the solution to problems. I would prefer self sufficiency any day.
No we dont or everything would get worse. The inventors of democracy quickly learned it lead to disaster
When he thought people were out to get him it seem he was right.
Did he commit these crimes or not?
No he didn't commit these crimes. It's biden who committed multiple crimes !
@@_.-266Yet, try as hard as they might, not one iota of admissible evidence for Joe Biden's alleged "crimes." Versus Trump's indictments for 91 counts 🤔
Yes, crooks are usually paranoid, and for good reason!
@@vallynne2833he did not, it's all made up to destroy you and me. Simple as that. You'll find out sooner or later.
This screams desperation
The actually "desperation" is Trump Cult-members who are OK with a president who lies constantly, cons them out of millions of dollars, kisses up to dictators & tried to overthrow an election.
Can you give an example so your comment makes sense ?
I can't find it. I think back in the '70's there was a movie made, based on a true story, of a teacher demonstrating to his students that even today people can be lured into fascism. I can't remember the name of the movie. It was very controversial. In the end the teacher showed this leader. It was a portrait of Hitler. The students were shocked and learned a valuable lesson. The teacher was getting flack and criticism from the school board and parents to stop doing this lesson. This teacher pleaded with the school board and parents for patience that he was trying to teach a lesson. It was an incredible movie.
I saw it too. It’s called “The Wave”.
Wow.. this guy has the clearest insights into maga out of any other talking head/academic/analyst I've ever heard/seen anywhere.. suddenly, it all makes perfect sense..
Fascinating..
As long as there are two sides to keep everyone divided, thats all that matters. The details that people dive so deeply into are meaningless. Must hate other side at all costs
Thats the truth. Pure and simple.
this is the Unity Joe promised American's, Remember he ran on unity. they must have changed the meaning of unity while i wasn't looking.
There's no love without hate.
Bang on man!
"I maintain nonetheless, that with sufficient enlightenment, one can give substance to any distinction. North WITHOUT south; pleasure WITHOUT pain; mind WITHOUT body. Remember, enlightenment is a function of will power and NOT of physical strength" - Chairman Yang. @@goldwhitedragon
Absolutely correct about global fascism. What's missing in the discussion completely is the role of corporatism and the concentration of wealth. TOTALLY missing the economic control issues!
Of course that's the whole reason to divide and conquer. It ensures the billionaires continued control.
There can only be one and undeniable answer to this: It’s because WHAT the power IS and it hides it’s names! And that’s whose interests this discussion serves.
@@DystopianUtopia8 The fact that you call them "the billionaires" shows that you've already fallen for their trap
@@knobtata836 Calling that power "the billionaires" is the shortest way to failure in that endeavor
That's because the writer was very clear that the topic is "staying close to the ground", meaning putting the focus on ordinary people that are Trump followers, what makes them tick. The topic isn't corporatism or macro-economics, that would be a whole other book.
Both of these authors / journalists have helped me see and understand our country. Thank you for this great conversation.
America is done! We've seen that coming for the last several years, but now it's a lot closer than most people realize. It ain't going to be a fun time in America any more.
Yes, basically since Obama stated this is the "change we need" fascist Antifa & BLM😂
This is sickening like the rest of the corruption.
"THE TYRANNY OF IRONY" the title of my book describing my 40 years continuously striving towards, yet stepping on rakes in my futile pursuit of truth. the current admin grossly abused its power by continuing the program Julian Assange and Snowden warned about and these two are happy to continue that framework without seeing, that's actually fascism in practice. When it goes how you want it to, no problem. Honestly, the truth has slowly become a moving target on the left and i find it harder and harder to agree with the cause, despite not being religious and a lifelong fan of science. Politics is a cesspool and those that take sides are playing the game "they" want to be played. We are monkeys with cash and the coffers flow when divided, and make no mistake, thats two capitalists right there on camera.
Luxuriating in their own hypocrisy.
Where is the book available?
You've described my current feelings about our entire system to a tee!
@@subterrainiaAll good bookshops. 🐐
@@nataliewilliams9741 I appreciate the kind words Natalie, its nice to know that i'm not that crazy, (even if I wish I worded it better and i wasn't so impulsive, ha). I'd like to think there are many more like us when the time comes to make the difference, if not.. I will gladly settle for people like yourself that have a fairly accurate BS radar.. mine has no batteries and still went off listening to everything they were and weren't saying lol.
I wish you a great day, and I'd just like to say, that you have made mine. Thanks.
Chris Hedges has become a multimillionaire by criticizing capitalism.,
Net worth approx. 5 million. Doesn't make him less inciteful only a little less credible.
Powerful interview. 😍✌🏾️ I knew the lazy journalists were not covering those rallies properly. This is why we're on this UA-cam channel.
Carter G. Woodson wrote a powerful book titled, The Miseducation of the Negro. Perhaps Mr. Sharlet should write a book on the Miseducation of the Caucasian.
This interview draws on parallels from this interview about his book. It's the indoctrination versus education scenario. Indoctrination is the cause of so much of what is happening, has happened, and will happen in the United States. This anti-education of American history is dismantling the goals of why those European left the Aristocracy. They didn't want to a ruler. I could go on for days.
There is infinite potential for goodness here in U.S. as it relates to democracy, but the citizens can't see the forest for the trees.
If Americans don't get it together, tyranny is the result. 😔
Lack of quality education, ignorance and despair in difficult times are what is turning America into such a cesspool.
You’d be so wrong if you weren’t so right ma’am. In this age of information,ignorance is a choice.
Oh you mean dtrump
@@emead528 No, that would be the democrats and the Rainbow Mafia.
Absolutely 💯 That's what we are seeing 👀.
I say it’s the hedonism, individualistic and self serving culture, greed and corruption
My parents used to say, "Remember, when you point your finger in accusation you have three fingers pointing back at yourself."
Every conservative accusation is a confession
@@maddyc2412 True, but only when reading 1984.
@@Reason-fg4ik They've never read 1984. That takes a higher reading level than sixth grade.
Well that is a dumb thing to say. If I point to a f250 does that make me an f250? I've got 3 pointing back at me. See... that's why it's a dumb thing to say. You should put them in a retirement home.
@@williamhutton2126 'they' don't want people to read 1984; it gives their playbook away.
It's utterly amazing how explicit Jesus was about money and yet how preachers turn this on its head. It is the most prevalent and unequivocal teaching in the New Testament. Big books that people don't read are a very dangerous thing.
Or reading about a fictionbook based water walking character, and wanting to pretend that fiction is fact.
What defines stockholm syndrome to keep enabling manipulation?
@@truetech4158 There are enough corroborating accounts to the point that most historians think Jesus was a real person.
There's nothing definitive but from the evidence I've seen it's more likely that he was a real person who was deified rather than the whole thing being completely dreamt up.
I agree with what you're saying though. One of the reasons I left the faith was because so much emphasis was put on the supernatural stuff. If the history of Christianity consisted of a group of people trying to emulate the message of Christ no one would really have a problem with it. Instead it's so often about brainwashing people and harping on so many things that are either from one vague passage or not even in the fucking book: smoking weed is evil, God hates gay people, the whole going to hell business, etc.
@@truetech4158When you seriously look at that "love/lust of money" and the unbelievable horror and misery it causes, I don't really care who said it.
He mentioned money and the evils connected to it more than any other subject....and He connected it to hell with a very graphic depiction of it.
The threat of hell is repeated in both testaments. "Wailing and gnashing of teeth" and other nonsense.
My first time watching one of your discussions. Very calm, level-headed, and informative. Now a subscriber.
Wrong
Nothing level-headed about this program today. Unless you regard fear-mongering and shamelessly lying about Trump as level-headed behavior.
All have to do is pay attention. You got a problem with that?
What's your thoughts of removing names from the ballot??
If it's illegal for his name to be on the ballot, then it shouldn't be there is my take. The law states that no-one implicated in an insurrection can run for president, and many people understand Jan. 6th as an insurrection, which means Trump can't run for president if the state in question deems Jan 6th as an insurrection. Seems simple enough.@@wkdewok
How much of DJT's rhetoric is actually from provocateurs such as Stephen Miller, Steve Bannon, Roger Stone, etc?
It’s fascinating that he told them that he would manipulate them and their ignorance and they willingly bend to him
He is playing the heel. Some people love that
Stupid people do not like to think for themselves.
As long as you're going to somehow alleviate the mental duress they feel from coping with modern life and all it's facets on a daily basis then you can call them what the fudge you like.
They will regret their ignorant ways in the long run.
That sounds like you Dingy Davy!😮
@@beanogas63No no no! You are the IGNORANT one! Big time!😮
We are living in very "dangerous times"......and we need more "grown ups" in charge.....before things gets truly out of hand.
That implies voting for an atheist next instead of the sociopathic church mafia.
“Before” ! where the hell are you living? Under a rock?
Too late
same in the UK with new truth legislation being pushed by sunak, they are trying to be the deciders of what is the truth. UK high court said that Rwanda is not a safe country to send asylum seekers to so Sunak has legislation that will make that untrue
Vote BLUE
As non American this was very enlightening. Especialy when Jeff Sharlet connected it with the charismatic white rightwing preacher, it makes perfect sociological sense.
Oh, really? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Chris Hedges' interview of Jeff Sharlet gave me powerfully fresh insight into the evolution of Trump's success with the Christian far right using his one talent, cultivating an adoring audience, through the sequence of Prosperity Gospel> Gnostic Gospel> and for the 2024 campaign: Age of Martyrs. Political theater is powerful.
The road to a fascist state is lined with people telling us to get a grip.
and inevitable. Trump 2024!
@@gtrdxz Delusional and disgusting. Not if those who believe in democracy VOTE either.
Believe the Rhetoric of Christian Nationalism. They have been telling us for years. OB/GYN Dr's are leaving Red States to practice Healthcare now.
You dont think Joe Biden trying to create a "Disinformation Governance Board" isnt fascist or the Biden Administration's unprecedented Censorship? the politically motivated indictments against Trump are totally traits of a fascist government.
20 to 24 years in prison and you know how rapists are treated there.
Lovely little dialectic going on here: "Accuse your opponent of what you are doing, to create confusion....."
Exactly what MAGA does ----- right out of the Fascist playbook.
@@awelsh3258 that’s just rhetoric. Look at the legislation and the behaviors not the rhetoric. When you do that, then the true fascism comes into focus.
Disinformation 101
Democracy relies on large groups,I favor being an individual separate from the herd.😊
And what do you mean by that? The purpose of democracy is to make sure at least some power resides within the people. Take that away and the people as a whole is the loser regardless of what you support. No leader is perfect, and what do you when you disagree with the guy you support? What do you do when he dies? You’ve lost all sense of power and control. When trump is dead you have no idea who’ll take over as you may have surrendered that aspect of democracy.
Problem with trump is not his policies but rather how he actively tried to disregard the election results. Constantly saying elections are stolen from him something he has done since 2015.
@@Thesamurai1999the illusion of choice has got you fooled
@@Gopherhuckyourself The Illusion of choice is better than nothing. Once we accept full on authoritarianism the people are the ones who lose.
The US is a flawed democracy compared to other democratic nations just because it sucks doesn’t mean we should dismantle it, but instead build up on it, make a better foundation.
Been a while since I stepped into the bubble. Things haven't changed. 2017 and 2023 appear the same.
.. our ANEMIC democracy? I’d say that description borders on the verge of being an understatement.. 😂
The only signs of life at this point are the maggots.
Joking/not joking is a classic passive aggressive tactic.
… and the personality disordered types…
Worship the Golden Calf.
In the 1980s I got assigned to my Army unit in Germany and was surprised to find virtually no hint of Nazi personality types in the many Germans I got to know. But of course they were there. It reinforced my suspicion that our culture, too, might contain substantial authoritarian white Christian nationalist types. Since then I saw UA-cam vids showing US Nazi rallies in the 1930s, and now we have so many militias. Thank God Trump has no military experience like Hitler and Mussolini, but Lenin and Stalin didn't have military experience and it didn't save Russia. I agree Trump AND HIS FOLLOWERS are dangerous. Nice job analyzing Trump and his followers 👍👍
Nothing is as dangerous as a 40T Debt. And that is wholly the fault of fascists who created the conditions that led to Trump.
Having read Sharlet's book, The Family, opened my eyes.
It didn't need to open my eyes but it confirmed what I already felt.
"There is no final victory, we have to keep fighting the same battles over and over again".
Tony Benn.
Yes, because most people don't learn from history!
@@TinaFivesten Mark Twain?
America is not turning fascist. America has always been fascist. Fascism comes from Ancient Rome. The Ancient Roman government was a Representative Republic. The founders of the American government copied the Ancient Roman Representative Republic as the basis of the new American Constitution. Congress, Senate, Judicial system, President elected by an Electoral College, just a few examples of copies from Ancient Rome among very many more. In times of extreme trouble the Ancient Roman government allowed the election of a Dictator with total power to take care of the emergency. The symbol of the Dictator was the "Fasces" (where our term fascism comes from), "rods and axes", which were carried by the body guard of the Dictator. The rods were used to beat a disagreeable public, the axes were used to execute anyone whom led the public into being disagreeable. An Ancient Roman Dictator had the right to kill anyone on the spot for any reason with no questioning or trial. Fascism is deeply rooted in American ideas and thoughts. If you work at a job where there is one boss in charge of everything you are a fascist. If you send your child to a school with a Principle in charge of the school you are a fascist. If you are a member of a family with a patriarch in charge of all family affairs you are a fascist. Fascism is not a government or a politic, it comes from how people are raised to think.
Absolutely amazing how the actual fascist will call the side who is for freedom, a bunch of fascists. It just goes to show that this book and video only exists to talk to the side who is ignorant of the facts.
@jackfox5738
Trump lost
Accept it
@@axil03TDS much? 😂
Fascism is specifically Rightwing. Look it up.
It’s defined as fascist, which does nothing to prevent it from being implemented by The Left. Gives them the automatic deniability they so depend on as a crutch, over and over again.
@@FOXTROTSKYOMEGA You think the Democrats aren't right wing, or in the pocket of corporations? Trump's the only president in history who left the Oval Office less wealthy than when he entered it. Hunter Biden's reported net worth has increased, from basically zero, by $300 million since his dad became vice president. You are a Turkey voting for Thanksgiving.
I am 73 now, raised in the military and there have always in my life been threats to our safety and democracy.
democracy is fake
This one is different though
There has NEVER been a President in all of American history, that tried to stop the peaceful transfer of power. And then to continue to create his own reality and believe he’s above the law.
Name the threats.
“Muh precious Dumbocracy”
Yep ..radical extremism of any kind is danger.
An example of a modern civil war is "The Troubles" in Northern Ireland.
Absolutely correct about UA-cam being a fascist tool - basically equivalent to the stormtroopers of yore.
So, how does UA-cam kick in your door and send you and Granny to Siberia or Auswitz?
Lol wut
@@BlueBeeMCMLXI Your comment reply is racist and I am reporting you to the YT M&M Battalion. Stand-by for your punishment.
The more Progressives are in control the more censorship there is. MSN is the worst.
UA-cam is fascist. If UA-cam is used to hurt people, via freedom speech being revoke or wack jobs out there taking screen shots of a person and waging actual war on that screen shorted individual in reality.
That description of The Call, The Snake and The bullet as being the substance was eye-opening for me. MAGA are so willing to be duped by this grifter as long as it feeds their feelings of anger and resentment.
Trump's followers have a lot to be angry and resentful about.
Resent what…..let them explain fully…….not………ya know. Have they been left behind due to their own decisions?
And twisted sexuality.
Build that wall!
What Trumpist learned by being in the trades for all their years, while you wasted time at university. Is the system is broken. Investment firms are buying up the property market to create a class of serfs.
Trumpists are just getting their bag and moving to the country with their families. Enjoy the hellscape the cities will become.
How do these extremists differ from the Taliban?
They don't...... Power and Control, always being "Right" (correct)
This whole maga movement sickens me. If anyone of us did and acted as Trump we would have been behind bars long ao.
Frank Zappa predicted this.
Predicted this on CNN twice. On the Larry King Show and on Crossfire.
"Politics is the entertainment division of the Military Industrial Complex"-Frank Zappa
A clear double case of terminal level TDS.
I'm not sure you can diagnose Chris with TDS.
@@eemoogee160Chris is strange and definitely has a shaded past!!
@@NYShepherdGirl God only knows what you could mean by that
Its borderline life threatening level is TDS. Love to see it.
Functional tds. This is not emotionally unhinged but it is one of the most severe cases of tds I have ever seen. The are talking about it like he is a leprechaun.
he's not turning them to nothing. he just said out loud what they had believed since before 1939.
Never trust a preacher that tells you how to vote and never trust a politician that tells you how to pray.
You don't turn a nation fascist, you simply unleash, facilitate and legitimise existing fascists.
Lotsa deep thinkers on here tonight
You sound like you been binge watching CNN to much.
@@kaygrace5250 What does 'to much' mean? Is 'much' a verb? What about 'you been' as well'? I know it's a lot for you to cope with. When you understand grammar, syntax and spelling, do let me know.
You just described how too turn a nation fascist
@@JB-tr6nu No. How to open the gates, not how to change views.
Fascism should more properly be called corporatism, since it is the marriage of government and corporate power
Watched again. So glad I can chip in monthly for these Voices.
Sad and sickening
Everyone must realize that his verbal commitment will get someone seriously injured or killed if this allowed to continue! The courts must address this issue before something very serious happens not after! This must be addressed ASAP!
Publicly verbalize the fact that culty mafia themed violence never really produces afterlives.
Unfortunately, I believe it’s going to happen. (Someone getting hurt). Almost like they’re waiting for that before they do anything about it. 😢
@@dawnimatrix Reminds me of when i went to the cop shop to tell em about some sociopathic gunfreak 5 miles away that told me he buried a body in his backyard then smiled and nodded at me as we unloaded drywall sheets off his trailer for a free installation in his rental home.
You'd think the cops would be interested in following up on that sort of thing, but apparently no.
The cop at the front desk chose to call me odd rather than the creeper with the gun collection. I ended up walking out realizing that its alot like what you wrote, almost like they wait for violence before they do anything about it, as if i would have to go missing in the night just so a investigation maybe would even begin.
Please be safe, violence never really produces afterlives no matter what smiley sociopaths say.
@@truetech4158 Wow. Just… wow
@@truetech4158 Yeah, the law is funny. Crazy how there has to be a crime before the cops can do anything. 🙄
I really disagree with many of the criticisms below. However, I don't think their depth of analysis is going to catch on in prime time TV any time soon ! The more worried, stressed and financially insecure people are, the more they welcome a saviour. Especially if you can 'contain' , i.e. simplify, the idea of what the threat is. Immigrants / Jews / "Liberals🤣" etc.etc. People can unite against this perceived threat, finding both their 'tribe' and their Saviour. The persecuted saviour, Trump, gives folk permission to be the worst version of themselves in survival.
Thank you. I knew I saw something very wrong, but the cult cannot see or hear that. Again, after all the lies and support of cults in his first term.
What a Kick-Ass intro
Believe it or not, the seeds of american fascism started in 1492, aka "Inter Caetera."
Enter Soetero
@@saffronskies333
All the leaders of this country are related to each other and are related to British and French oligarch families.
Which means they all have been working for the same people since 1492, einstein!
I believe it.
@@saffronskies333You'll just never forgive his mother, will you? Your impotent rage is a thing to be ridiculed.😊
@@reclusidor4442 impotent rage??? Too much grand theft auto ....That's a jab for the left ... for you
When examining the global landscape and the ominous rise of totalitarianism in various nations, whether they be classified as first or fifth world, it is striking to note the unsettling parallels.
One of the most disconcerting trends is the deliberate use of incendiary rhetoric, fostering division and animosity among citizens. In some instances, this rhetoric targets wealthy individuals, portraying them as malevolent figures, or labels progress itself as the adversary. Totalitarian leaders often employ this divisive language to obscure their own authoritarian agendas, cynically accusing their political opponents of harboring such intentions.
Furthermore, these totalitarian regimes often display a flagrant disregard for the rule of law, sometimes even mocking it openly. This attitude sends a dangerous message to their followers, effectively granting them a blank check to flout established rules and norms at their own discretion. This erosion of respect for the law not only undermines the foundations of a just society but also contributes to an environment where individuals may act with impunity, further deepening the crisis.
Another distressing characteristic is blatant hypocrisy and deception, regardless of the undeniable evidence before our eyes. Totalitarian regimes frequently compel individuals,who once believed in the promise of positive change within the system, to (leave) public service, after witnessing firsthand the underlying totalitarian ambitions of sub-leaders within the government.
These regimes often resort to denigrating and vilifying those who dare to criticize their authority, disregarding moral values, and resorting to name-calling and character denigration. The casual manipulation of facts during public speeches further erodes trust in information dissemination.
Another alarming facet is the systematic demonization of media outlets that dare to scrutinize their leadership, effectively silencing dissenting voices and fueling hatred within the leader's followers.
Simultaneously, there is a propensity to idealize and establish alliances, whether political or not, with foreign totalitarian regimes, thus undermining the principles of democracy and human rights.
The scourge of corruption within these regimes is particularly brazen and unapologetic. Anyone who exposes or opposes this corruption is often labeled an enemy of the people. Equally concerning is the deliberate manipulation of constitutional reforms to perpetuate the leader's political ideology, effectively subverting democratic principles.
History has shown that these patterns tend to repeat themselves. It is our responsibility to educate those unfamiliar with totalitarianism, its manifestations, and the intricacies of global politics in a clear and unambiguous manner. Failure to do so may lead us down the same dark path as countries that never believed such a fate could befall them.
Vigilance, awareness, and informed citizenship are essential safeguards against the encroachment of totalitarianism on our democratic values and institutions; be active, be proactive, don’t take things for granted. It can happen, we are not immune to this reality.
This seems as though it was AI generated.
@@robcaraher3113 no. I came from Vzla
So this channel and its guests are scrutinized by both far left and far right, but main focus is on right misdemeanors when left literally acts as thought police by cancelling people or banning them for the reason they need to figure out themselves.
@@robcaraher3113 Wrong. I just lived in Venezuela. No need to have an AI to see the similarities!
I hope that you write a book because you have hit the nail on the head. Your explanation is so cunning and real. I understand why these people are taken inside this cult so quickly. NO CRITICAL THINKING. There is definitely a character flaw in their lives. There is something missing because they cannot think for themselves. More Southern radical thinking like "The South is Gonna Rise Again." These were religiously radicalized at an early age and always have to mentally hold onto something besides themselves. Thank you for this wonderful article. If they weren't so dangerous, I 'd feel sorry for them because their characters are so deficient.
Fascinating conversation. Thank you so much.
Great interview
Wow. This guy is batshit crazy. He has spun such a far flung theory. 😂
Agree, these guys project too much.
What? What are you talking about?
He's a Leftist, what do you expect?
Baseless allegation.
I'd put money on it that you're subbed to Jordan Peterson, Glenn Beck and Ben Shapiro. I'd bet even more that Joe Rogan and Tim Pool are in there, too.