The Everlasting Impact of Hyper Knuckles (& Knuckles)

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  • Опубліковано 26 січ 2020
  • Couldn't just talk about Sonic and Tails without bringing up everyone's favorite glowing pink echidna, could we? Today we explore the importance of Hyper Knuckles (okay, MOSTLY just Knuckles but I wanted to match with the other videos.)
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  • @rainpooper7088
    @rainpooper7088 4 роки тому +1667

    Actually, we totally know what Knuckles knows. Let me summarize:
    -Knuckles is the guardian of both the Master Emerald and the Chaos Emeralds. One day when he’s checking on the Chaos Emerald shrines, they all teleport away for an unknown reason and Knuckles fails to locate them, he does not know where they are prior to the events of the game.
    -Knuckles is aware of the ancient prophecies such as the mural you mentioned and upon seeing the Death Egg recalls one in particular that said that a giant egg will bring disaster to the island.
    -Knuckles does not know the Death Egg is related to Eggman. He instead thinks it’s the egg of a „legendary dragon“ that will destroy the island. This dragon was later confirmed to be Perfect Chaos. Yeah, knowing what we know now, he had every right to be scared there.
    -You might think it’s weird that Knuckles didn’t see the connection between Eggman’s face and the Death Egg, but, and I shit you not, the manual actually implies that Knuckles *can’t see very well.* Echidnas are known as „needle moles“ in Japan and moles are known for having poor eyesight. *He literally couldn’t see the Eggman face on the Death Egg from a distance.* This obviously is a trait that was never followed up on, but it’s still really interesting.
    -Eggman told Knuckles he was a scientist researching the dragon egg. He claimed that Sonic was an Emerald thief and kept interrupting his work. So in order to to protect the Emeralds and help Eggman get his work done so the disaster coming from the egg could be averted, Knuckles joined forces with Eggman and attacked Sonic. Sonic actually having the missing Chaos Emeralds didn’t exactly help the Emerald thief accusation either.
    The Japanese manual explains pretty much everything there is to know, but the American version literally cut out all of the interesting stuff.
    There’s another part of the story that I haven’t even mentioned that talks about how there once was an ancient civilization that used the Emeralds to prosper, but it was wiped out overnight and „the gods“ lifted their homeland to the sky, creating the Floating Island. Yes, they were already foreshadowing Sonic Adventure. Even crazier, this story of this ancient civilization was already featured in the Japanese manual of Sonic 2. Yes, they either had all of this planned out or built on the previous titles in an incredibly precise manner. People don’t give the Classic games enough credit for storytelling.

    • @retrofan4963
      @retrofan4963 4 роки тому +222

      Yeah the storytelling in Classic Sonic games is really ahead of its time. It's crazy the American manuals cut some of the story aspects, it would help the American gamers more in depth of the story of these games. Even though the story of classic 2D Mario games are fine, Sonic did the story aspect much better and more engaging as well, especially 3 and Knuckles.

    • @mr.sleepyhead8401
      @mr.sleepyhead8401 4 роки тому +108

      I hope someone makes a video covering this so this information can be more wide spread and Sega takes notice.

    • @BlueRuki
      @BlueRuki 4 роки тому +76

      Bruh thank you for this info, I literally had no idea about any of this.

    • @PudelMitFoen
      @PudelMitFoen 4 роки тому +10

      This is awesome!

    • @user-vs6oe8fl3m
      @user-vs6oe8fl3m 4 роки тому +16

      How tf I didn't know about this

  • @Joestar96
    @Joestar96 4 роки тому +660

    I had no idea he *kills everything* when he glides into a wall

    • @ravenousredbeard5414
      @ravenousredbeard5414 4 роки тому +63

      You need some speed and to be gliding but it is very fun and satisfying. Sadly limited to on screen only but still very powerful.

    • @Spaghettaboutit
      @Spaghettaboutit 4 роки тому +43

      Yeah only the Hyper variant can screen MURDER, the regular Super version can't.

    • @1122markj
      @1122markj 4 роки тому

      I did not know this as well. Or I forgot it. I used to play as Hyper Knuckles a lot when I was a little kid.

    • @knucklestheradred774
      @knucklestheradred774 4 роки тому

      @The Shadow Dwelling Poet knuckles is 16,sonic is 15 and tails is 8

    • @knucklestheradred774
      @knucklestheradred774 4 роки тому

      @The Shadow Dwelling Poet I dont wanna sound weird or anything but when where you born.

  • @McSteam3r
    @McSteam3r 4 роки тому +536

    I just had a debate over small details in games with my friend. He said they didn’t matter. I’m glad you agree that small details matter. Keep up the good work, fight the hard life, and don’t let Knuckles steal yo girl!

    • @superhedgehog6447
      @superhedgehog6447 4 роки тому +23

      Man i don't get why people think sonic shouldn't have any depth in his stories or no stories at all. Its like these people want the sonic franchise to be boring

    • @codered1132
      @codered1132 4 роки тому +3

      Superhedgehog 64 that’s like saying Mario shouldn’t have a proper story. Even though his stories are kinda repeated.

    • @codered1132
      @codered1132 4 роки тому +1

      Leland McGuire He meant in the terms of Sonic 3 and Knuckles, it’s his “second-to-last” video he’s making on about it.

    • @codered1132
      @codered1132 4 роки тому

      Leland McGuire so basically yeah.

    • @lovestarlightgiver2402
      @lovestarlightgiver2402 4 роки тому

      This is random, but the art in hidden palace zone, seems to have an Ancient Greek style to it.

  • @normielegion1949
    @normielegion1949 4 роки тому +205

    So what your saying is...
    *the real hyper transformations where the friends we made along the way*

  • @EpicAntos
    @EpicAntos 4 роки тому +191

    7:26 I never even noticed Knuckles was pointing down. I always thought he was tapping his chest for some reason

    • @teosim6656
      @teosim6656 4 роки тому +2

      I thought that too 😂

    • @Leekodot15
      @Leekodot15 4 роки тому +1

      Same here!

    • @nhenderson704
      @nhenderson704 4 роки тому +2

      Same

    • @technoguyx
      @technoguyx 4 роки тому +12

      I always thought it was just body expression, like him cursing Eggman for taking the emerald.

    • @Mr_Gamer-Random
      @Mr_Gamer-Random 4 роки тому +2

      Same

  • @kingbash6466
    @kingbash6466 4 роки тому +623

    Honestly, Knuckles was and still is my favorite Sonic character, and I miss when he was a cool, loner character who had ties with both Angel Island and the Emeralds and only got involved when they were in stake. Now he’s kind of a meme character that’s seen as Sonic’s angry doofus friend.

    • @echidnaburger02
      @echidnaburger02 4 роки тому +34

      Knuckles's personality peaked in Sonic Heroes

    • @darthvaderdylan
      @darthvaderdylan 4 роки тому +25

      Seems like after 06, sega has given up on meaningful characterisation.

    • @rainpooper7088
      @rainpooper7088 4 роки тому +33

      thorin oakenshield
      With Knuckles, they gave up way earlier. Sonic X and the effect it had on the games completely screwed over the characterizations of Knuckles, Amy and Eggman.

    • @speedguy8637
      @speedguy8637 4 роки тому +7

      King Bash, I’ve felt the same sentiment for years but at least it seems like they’ve changed his traits in Forces, even though that game just wasn’t done right. Hopefully, the modern Sonic titles significantly improve and they keep the Forces’ Knuckles attitude over the idiotic meme character you spoke of.

    • @speedguy8637
      @speedguy8637 4 роки тому +2

      Rainpooper I just fucking hate whoever decided to make nothing more of Knuckles than a blundering idiot. The Sonic series just ruins their own lore and canon with inconsistent releases. The series is just a mess and I sincerely hope they listen to the fans and remaster Adventure because I think will help reignite its popularity.

  • @searchbar83
    @searchbar83 4 роки тому +454

    Sega should hire you to write Sonics official lore.

    • @MeximidgeComedy
      @MeximidgeComedy 4 роки тому +5

      Why? He's just reiterating lore that already is with little between the lines.

    • @MeximidgeComedy
      @MeximidgeComedy 4 роки тому +3

      Why? He's just reiterating lore that already is, with little between the lines in his own interpretation.

    • @aguyontube3805
      @aguyontube3805 4 роки тому +9

      Comedian Brandon Lara why he just repeated the same comment twice

    • @aguyontube3805
      @aguyontube3805 4 роки тому +11

      Comedian Brandon Lara why he just said the same thing twice

    • @Icalasari
      @Icalasari 4 роки тому +24

      @@MeximidgeComedy Yeah, but looking at Sonic team lately, they probably need somebody who can understand their own lore better than them

  • @SaiyanScholar
    @SaiyanScholar 4 роки тому +106

    Just want to say how much I've appreciated these S&K videos my dude. I was around in 94 when I first played S&K. Takes me WAY BACK TO GOOD TIMES.
    Been following you on here for ONE WEEK. And you have my support Sir. Thank you

    • @edgelord8337
      @edgelord8337 4 роки тому

      Nice channel art!

    • @GameApologist
      @GameApologist  4 роки тому +9

      Thanks man! Just started snooping around your channel. Definitely going to subscribe and check your stuff out, love me some Dragon Ball.

    • @SaiyanScholar
      @SaiyanScholar 4 роки тому +3

      @@GameApologist amazing my dude. Thank you! Let's rock this! If you ever get time and want to join me on a video at some point, let me know! Tons of fun DB to cover! I'm on Instagram, hit me up :D

  • @ChillKnuxFan201
    @ChillKnuxFan201 4 роки тому +225

    I'm really glad you made this. I've been a big fan of the Rad Red, ever since I got into the series. It makes total sense why someone in Knuckles' position to get tricked by Dr. Eggman, and you explained that perfectly. I also like to mention that a big part of Knuckles' character is that he's a loner. This means, by nature, Knuckles doesn't trust anyone, which is why he's quick to blame someone, he hasn't met. This has been a big part of his character since Sonic 3, as he does things mostly by himself in that game, Sonic Jam has his bio state that he's shy to girls, and his Adventure theme songs makes a big deal about how he's a loner, and that he prefer to do things by himself, "adversaries get shelved". It's one of his biggest weakness, and what I find most relatable to him. It's very possible Knuckles didn't trust Dr. Eggman in Sonic 3, either. Sure, he did believe that Sonic was the bad guy, but that doesn't mean he wasn't suspicious of Eggman too, and so he kept the Master Emerald in the HIDDEN Palace zone, so both couldn't keep their hands on it, but because Sonic made the Death Egg fall, it landed on Hidden Palace zone as we see it looming in Lava Reef Zone, which is how Dr. Eggman found it. I just hate how he's only gullible because he's "dumb" nowadays, even though Knuckles has shown to be very smart, as he was always one step ahead of Sonic throughout Sonic 3 & Knuckles. This guy has been stated as a Master Martial Artist, and world's greatest treasure hunter by Sonic himself. Dr. Eggman has tricked Sonic many times, and no one bats an eye. It's been hard to be a fan of the character when everyone always reminds you that he's not the same character I once knew. He's not a loner anymore, he doesn't guard the Master Emerald, and they don't mention him being that last of his kind. Now he's just some gullible sidekick to Sonic who has no purpose anymore. Very good video! And I hope it does well!

    • @rainpooper7088
      @rainpooper7088 4 роки тому +27

      The Chill Knuckles Fan
      Same, man. The way Knuckles has been handled in the past 15 years is frustrating, to say the least.
      Don’t know if you’ve read it, but the Japanese Sonic 3 manual explains that the reason why Knuckles went with what Eggman said was because Eggman claimed to be a scientist studying the egg that had just crashed onto his island. Due to an unspecific prophecy about a giant egg bringing destruction to his island and him never coming in contact with technology before, Knuckles thought the Death Egg was a living breathing egg that belonged to „a legendary dragon“. This dragon was later revealed to be Perfect Chaos, so Knuckles had every reason to fear for his home. Not to mention that all the Chaos Emeralds had previously disappeared, so he was really running out of options at this point. And after seeing Sonic with the Chaos Emeralds, he had no reason to question Eggman‘s tale of Sonic being an Emerald thief. However, this was the only time he actually believed Eggman without second guessing. In Triple Trouble, the second game where he co-operated with Eggman, rather than giving the Chaos Emeralds back to Eggman, he hid them in the Special Zone. He may have fought on Eggman‘s side in this game, but he clearly never trusted him, which ended up getting him caged by the end of the game. And in Sonic Adventure, he never co-operated with Eggman at all and didn’t become aggressive towards Sonic until he caught him with the green Chaos Emerald, which he mistook for an Emerald Shard. This is a misunderstanding that I can buy, since Knuckles both saw the green glowing gemstone *and* felt its energy, so thanks to poor communication and the false information Eggman gave him, it’s understandable that he got them confused. What I can’t buy is Eggman kidnapping Knuckles and then tricking him off-screen into attacking Sonic *using a machine* in Sonic Advance 2. Even if you do think he’s an idiot, that’s just bad writing. He hasn’t been tricked in the games since and the manual for Sonic Riders(: Zero Gravity?) did state that he learned from his past mistakes and doesn’t fall for Eggman’s tricks anymore. Not that he actually was all that susceptible to them in the first place, but that should be enough to shut up the people who claim he always gets tricked and never learns when canon material has clearly stated that this is not the case.

    • @benvaldez7049
      @benvaldez7049 4 роки тому +1

      Right on

    • @Ando1428
      @Ando1428 4 роки тому +14

      He also hid the emeralds in the master zone after knocking sonic out of super sonic. So he wasnt completely trusting of robotnik. He believed him enough to checkout the threat but was smart enough to not hand over the emeralds to someone he doesnt know.

    • @ChillKnuxFan201
      @ChillKnuxFan201 4 роки тому +15

      @@rainpooper7088 Wow. TBH, when you said he got tricked into believing Dr. Eggman was studying an egg that fell from the sky from a prophecy, I thought it was too silly. But then you said it was a dragon like Perfect Chaos, then I took it seriously, and it blew my mind.
      But yeah, I'm glad there's still people who still believe Knuckles reasons made sense. I really feel like the "last of my kind" it's why I'm still a Knuckles fan. But Sonic Advance 2 especially was the worst time he got tricked. Especially since there was absolutely no reason for him to be in that game story wise. The Master Emerald wasn't even in the story, so why did he need to get tricked? They could have done something cool like have Knuckles save Sonic after a last attempt from Dr. Eggman. I'd always loved it when Knuckles cucks Sonic in the comics like that. Knuckles was the character that kept Sonic from being a mary-sue and made Sonic relatable in the process.

    • @ChillKnuxFan201
      @ChillKnuxFan201 4 роки тому +1

      @@Ando1428 That's also a really good point.

  • @AkariNeko3131
    @AkariNeko3131 4 роки тому +230

    "You turned _PINK_ bro!"
    Seriously tho, I've been binging your vids as of late, and seeing your sub count double over a single week is so satisfying. You deserve it.

    • @flyingphoenixcat3742
      @flyingphoenixcat3742 4 роки тому +8

      Me: Kirby, Kirby, Kirby!
      That’s a name you should know!
      Kirby, Kirby, Kirby!
      He’s the star of the show!
      He's more than you think! He's got maximum pink!
      Kirby, Kirby, Kirby's the one!
      He comes right back at ya!
      He comes right back at ya!
      Give it all that you've got! Take your very best shot!
      He'll send it right back at ya for sure, yeah!
      *How can I help you, King Dedede?*
      *I need a monster to clobber that there Kirby!*
      *That's what we do best at NME!*
      *You'd better get it with a money back guarantee!*
      Oh, Kirby, Kirby, Kirby, saving the day!
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      Kirby! (Kirby!) Kirby! (Kirby!) Kirby! (Kirby!)
      Kirby, Kirby, Kirby’s the one!
      Right back at ya!
      YEAH!!

    • @SuperZombieBros
      @SuperZombieBros 4 роки тому +4

      Oh my god I remember that video!

    • @lworthy2518
      @lworthy2518 4 роки тому +4

      @Maximum Pink DAMN KIRBY! LAY OFF THE STERIODS, BRO!😵😂

    • @whoyomommy5721
      @whoyomommy5721 4 роки тому

      yes

    • @esasufian2660
      @esasufian2660 4 роки тому

      Flying Phoenix Cat well that was long

  • @RedTygon
    @RedTygon 4 роки тому +138

    I hope one day Sega actually remember their lore lol.

    • @retrofan4963
      @retrofan4963 4 роки тому +19

      It's sad they even forget the lore behind Sonic 3 and Knuckles :(

    • @yungmuney5903
      @yungmuney5903 4 роки тому +10

      Its because after the failure of sonic 06, dipshit journalists who know nothing of what made the series so special said that story and lore shouldn't be in a platformer.

    • @bioresidentskg5025
      @bioresidentskg5025 4 роки тому +2

      @@yungmuney5903 that's like saying books and movies shouldn't have a plot.

    • @M3rtyville
      @M3rtyville 4 роки тому +3

      There is this channel called Deepest Lore which I recomment anyone checking out. It feels like Sega deliberately try to make Modern and Classic Sonic different characters from each other.

    • @CoralCopperHead
      @CoralCopperHead 3 роки тому

      @@M3rtyville ...They literally do, they've even announced that they do.

  • @Lumpus
    @Lumpus 4 роки тому +233

    All I can think of is that old “super knuckles is pink” animation lmao

    • @edgelord8337
      @edgelord8337 4 роки тому +5

      Have I seen you before?

    • @GaminatorA
      @GaminatorA 4 роки тому +15

      “Hey, Amy Rose. When did you get here?”

    • @JP-hk6xw
      @JP-hk6xw 4 роки тому +22

      YOU TURNED *PINK* BRO

    • @jolat9328
      @jolat9328 4 роки тому +2

      Give me the link to the video

    • @atoversl
      @atoversl 3 роки тому +4

      heh hey pretty lady would you like to go out for a drink sometime em i right guys!?

  • @darkwarrior007
    @darkwarrior007 4 роки тому +15

    Man, I thought I was the only one that "played out" certain scenes in the game. Like acting appropriately during the automated "cutscene" sections, dragging out the fight with Knuckles, stuff like that. Then this video pops up and I see the same stuff.

    • @technoguyx
      @technoguyx 4 роки тому +2

      I once read a comment (maybe in a Cybershell video) by a guy who always played with his brother as Sonic & Tails and they acted all the scenes. Then in Sky Sanctuary they crouched right next to Knuckles as a way to "bow" before him in respect, which I think triggers an animation telling them to move on. Talk about immersion.

  • @Galamoth06
    @Galamoth06 4 роки тому +60

    It's like the reincarnation of Cybershell.
    S3&K is one of my favorite games of all time and I never realized it was such a masterclass in subtext.

    • @KidCop2011
      @KidCop2011 4 роки тому +4

      God I miss cybershell

    • @cyanryann64
      @cyanryann64 4 роки тому +2

      Cybershell needs to come back

  • @gamecube-de6bm
    @gamecube-de6bm 4 роки тому +296

    Knock knock.
    *It's knuckles*

    • @smolbrendan5978
      @smolbrendan5978 4 роки тому +17

      oh no

    • @1122markj
      @1122markj 4 роки тому +19

      Oh no

    • @1122markj
      @1122markj 4 роки тому +4

      I bet you my "Oh no" will get more likes than your "oh no"
      Faker

    • @IAmBottle.
      @IAmBottle. 4 роки тому +6

      Don't let him knuck on your door, there will be two knuckle-shaped holes in your front door.

    • @smolbrendan5978
      @smolbrendan5978 4 роки тому +6

      @@1122markj Faker? I think *you're* the fake echidna around here. You're comparing yourself to me... hah! You're not even good enough to be my fake.

  • @sonix-artmore5548
    @sonix-artmore5548 4 роки тому +86

    Man, my rad red Knuckles bein' the real chad here protecting the Master Emerald.

  • @minekraftminer-5252
    @minekraftminer-5252 4 роки тому +21

    7:25 i always imaged these specific lines when seeing that animation
    *HEY ROBOTNIK! WHAT DO YOU THINK YOUR DOING PUT THAT DOWN!*

  • @Malzzzy
    @Malzzzy 4 роки тому +76

    3:48 "Unlike Sonic who he CUCKLES"
    You have me dying here Nick xD

  • @chip2508
    @chip2508 4 роки тому +9

    "Toot toot Knuckles warriors"
    Good thing I watched your CD critique yesterday, that reference would probably fly right over my head otherwise

  • @Ghalheart
    @Ghalheart 4 роки тому +59

    Awesome video, Nick! I gotta say that I love your exploration of Knuckles' character development, especially with how effective the "show, don't tell" change of heart Knuckles has right after his duel with Sonic (and right after Eggman steals the Master Emerald).
    If there's one bit of poetic bookend to Knuckles' transformation from antagonist to protagonist in Sonic lore that I like to share, it's that I love that Knuckles pushes a switch that opens a bridge to help you in Sky Sanctuary Zone. This is kinda important, because every time he pushed a switch during Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles beforehand, it was always to mess you up in your adventure. But when Knuckles is helping you to stop Eggman and retrieve the Master Emerald, he pushes a switch to help you enter Sky Sanctuary Zone proper.
    Anyways, great video! I want to watch more of your content - Sonic-related or otherwise. :D

    • @GameApologist
      @GameApologist  4 роки тому +17

      That's a really cool point, I never thought about that before! Thank you for the compliments as well!

  • @skrub_king
    @skrub_king 4 роки тому +29

    Knuckles is my favorite Sonic character.

    • @thehoodybadger3402
      @thehoodybadger3402 4 роки тому +1

      I had a 15" action figure of him as a kid. The sentiment is shared.

    • @cardboardhawks6783
      @cardboardhawks6783 4 роки тому +1

      If only they did more with him than just “hurr durr, me brain smooth.”

  • @CrimsonTomb
    @CrimsonTomb 4 роки тому +4

    This is automatically my new favorite channel and is blowing the fuck out of my mind with all of the small details, I’m 16 and have been playing these games all of my life and have never noticed these touches such as the mural and knuckles in the bushes on the cover. These videos too are very inspirational. Great job man, I’ll look forward to everything you put out.

  • @Sewermouse
    @Sewermouse 4 роки тому +28

    Hey man, great work on all these videos! Keep it up!

  • @ima311boy
    @ima311boy 4 роки тому +8

    Your videos are a breath of fresh air. I love how you go into so much depth and detail about my all time favorite Sonic The Hedgehog game storyline. We've needed someone to talk about this for a long time. Thank you for doing so! :)

  • @nhenderson704
    @nhenderson704 4 роки тому +167

    This mans needz mor subz
    Edit: I finally got Sonic’s Ultimate Genesis Collection to play S3 and for first time

    • @edgelord8337
      @edgelord8337 4 роки тому +2

      Don't worry he will.
      Just put his videos in your library and playlist.

    • @twospacedanimations5008
      @twospacedanimations5008 4 роки тому +11

      D00fus R1ck dude gained like 10k in a week. People are noticing this gem

    • @edgelord8337
      @edgelord8337 4 роки тому

      @@twospacedanimations5008 master emerald of a gem.

    • @freshroyaloficecapzone2154
      @freshroyaloficecapzone2154 4 роки тому +5

      I recommend playing Sonic 3 AIR. It's like a (second) PC port made by a fan that adds tons of quality of life improvements.

    • @nhenderson704
      @nhenderson704 4 роки тому

      The only time I played s3 is on an emulator so I don’t really consider that but if y’all do then yes I have played it before I played s&k on virtual console on the Wii

  • @zestyz2045
    @zestyz2045 4 роки тому +80

    Knuckles looks like he was dipped in Pepto Bismo

  • @KibatheMalinois
    @KibatheMalinois 4 роки тому +4

    7:29 - 7:30 You had me dying there. Lol thanks I played this part like a 1000 times and never once did I notice him pointing downwards to the pedestal. Great vid. Also very unhappy with the way they portray Knuckles in other media, red dude deserves more respect.

  • @confuzed9637
    @confuzed9637 4 роки тому +4

    Hello there. I wanted to mention i just recently found out about your channel and even as a non sonic fan i have to say that the content you provide is fairly interesting and even i kinda want to play the older sonic games now. So keep going!

  • @Gazing-09
    @Gazing-09 4 роки тому +6

    You know who I'd like to see in game one day? Chaos Knuckles.

  • @guttsu
    @guttsu 4 роки тому +9

    Damn, you put more thought into this character than SEGA. Love these videos and your nerding out, it's so fun and genuine.

  • @psgamer-0199
    @psgamer-0199 2 роки тому +6

    Knuckles has always been my favorite character. Ever since his appearance in Sonic 3 I've been fascinated by him and then I discovered Sonic & Knuckles and that I got to play as him? It instantly became my favorite game. Then I was even more thrilled when I discovered Sonic 3 & Knuckles. I could play both my favorite games with my favorite character. It doesn't get better than that.

  • @joshuadonnelly1978
    @joshuadonnelly1978 4 роки тому +4

    Man, I only discovered this channel a few weeks ago, but I already love it. You've helped bring me such a greater appreciation for Sonic's old school games and lore. Sonic 2 has been my favorite, but you're convincing me to give a much deeper look to Sonic 3 & Knuckles.

  • @jomon324
    @jomon324 4 роки тому +33

    I should not have teared up over this.
    (Knuckles is my favorite Sonic character)
    But I did.
    Thank you.

  • @soncthehedge2671
    @soncthehedge2671 4 роки тому +7

    I like how all of the Hyper forms and Tails a super form have their own abilities

  • @Mike14264
    @Mike14264 4 роки тому +3

    I actually like that you made the "Toot toot, Sonic Warriors" your closing line, it's pretty charming 😁

  • @superdeionbro8163
    @superdeionbro8163 4 роки тому +5

    I love these dissection videos, analyzing in depth the characters and why they matter to not only this game's story, but the greater narrative overall! You have a really neat ability to explain the significance of these seemingly one-note characters, and are able to recgonize their actions and motivations, making for a really enioyable video! I'm looking forward to your next work, Sonic or not! Keep it up, man!

  • @Moss_Dude
    @Moss_Dude 4 роки тому +78

    Here's my interpretation of knuckles' intelligence: Kinda dumb, definitely gullible, but not stupid. He doesn't really think much, and after eggman set the right mood, he just went into punch mode and tunnel visioned everything else out. After sonic beat some sense into him, and he saw what eggman was doing behind his back, he put 2 and 2 together and cleaned up the mess.

  • @benvaldez7049
    @benvaldez7049 4 роки тому +4

    These videos have made me appreciate sonic. Honestly, I was part of the crowd that said sonic was never good, but because of the game apologist, I just got sonic mania and now I’m hooked!

  • @mrosilvR7
    @mrosilvR7 4 роки тому +4

    Great video. Knuckles was my favorite character from day one of his introduction. Not really sure how I never noticed the details of the mosaic in the Hidden Palace.

  • @Watchtower_13
    @Watchtower_13 4 роки тому +4

    Absolutely amazing! I've been a Sonic fan for a long time and seeing such an in-depth look at all these games reminds me just how much I love the classic series. It's such a shame how our blue blur has been treated as of late. Hoping the movie isn't a disaster and new games are finally decent for once.

  • @thatonedude2159
    @thatonedude2159 4 роки тому +10

    That thumbnail is really something

  • @insertname8230
    @insertname8230 4 роки тому +4

    Man after discovering your channel I've just been re-watching all your videos, I like how refer to your history with the subject matter, definitely deserve more subs.

  • @Wizthefurbo
    @Wizthefurbo 4 роки тому +2

    Dude your channel has singlehandedly made me care about sonic more than I ever would have from playing any game in the series lol your passion really shines through in these videos and I am happy you are getting the attention you deserve !

  • @goosimusic
    @goosimusic 4 роки тому +3

    "Unlike Sonic who he chuckles" dude. i choked on my burrito for a good 3 seconds.

  • @KelsonArwhi
    @KelsonArwhi 4 роки тому +5

    Best line from the Sonic OVA...
    "I'M KNUCKLES, I'M SONIC'S *BEST FRIEND* !!"

  • @tiredsadboi8278
    @tiredsadboi8278 4 роки тому +4

    I love this channel! Your editing is amazing, I expected a half a million subbed channel with this kind of quality!
    You are the perfect representative of my childhood and how I see Sonic games!
    Subscribed and Liked, can't wait to see ALL types of your content going forward

  • @SeekerLancer
    @SeekerLancer 4 роки тому +5

    I'm glad to hear you really take a deep dive into this game. I consider it one of the best games of its console generation but it's often overlooked while Nintendo titles are held on a pedestal.

  • @angrymushroom26
    @angrymushroom26 4 роки тому +5

    And I can use my whirling fists like wheels... and my feet like feet!
    This killed me

  • @ultimate_pawnch
    @ultimate_pawnch 4 роки тому +7

    The Monsters Inc reference was perfect.

  • @Furluge
    @Furluge 2 роки тому +3

    8:12 - Come to think of it Knuckles could very easily see that art as Robotnik fighting against and evil spikey fire monster. The Death Egg might be Knuckles going, "It's the savior of prophecy!"

  • @1dayago843
    @1dayago843 4 роки тому +26

    10:13
    The moment you said "come out the other side" I farted

  • @malcolmboddie237
    @malcolmboddie237 4 роки тому +20

    Clicked as soon as I saw this, you’re a damn good content creator. Never stop 👍

  • @TheRealDustinNunn
    @TheRealDustinNunn 4 роки тому +4

    Knuckles is one of my favorite Sonic characters of all time. I always had fun gliding around and climbing walls while playing as him back on the Genesis/Mega Drive. Oh, such good times.

  • @Sly88Frye
    @Sly88Frye 4 роки тому

    I'm really glad I watch this video. The way you ended things talk about how now he's for once not alone was actually pretty moving. It's awesome you can get that from a storyline where there isn't any dialogue.

  • @jcluttrell
    @jcluttrell 4 роки тому

    Best video yet! Love the humor sprinkled in, found myself chuckling several times throughout the video. Keep it up!!

  • @kamenriderwarrior5645
    @kamenriderwarrior5645 4 роки тому +8

    0:58 had me dying laughing😂😂😂😂😂

  • @ticktock3507
    @ticktock3507 4 роки тому +30

    Sees video about Knuckles
    Me:Meh
    Sees "And Knuckles" in the title
    Me: *clicks at hyper speed*

  • @diskoflash2002
    @diskoflash2002 4 роки тому

    My man, your newer vids came to us and we laughed a lot. You have some of the most entertaining retrospectives I’ve seen in months.Really hope more subs come around to hear the gold you speak. Cheers.

  • @greenhxify
    @greenhxify 4 роки тому +2

    As a knuckles main I really enjoyed this video. Thanks for sharing your views on the topic because not enough people talk about it.

  • @FilmColossus
    @FilmColossus 4 роки тому +3

    This was really well done.

  • @denzen8370
    @denzen8370 4 роки тому +3

    It's amazing how no words but instead just a little imagination and interpretation can do to make a great story thanks man keep up the good work

    • @kavehgaming546
      @kavehgaming546 4 роки тому +1

      Your a good boy

    • @denzen8370
      @denzen8370 4 роки тому +1

      @@kavehgaming546 thank you

    • @kavehgaming546
      @kavehgaming546 4 роки тому

      @@denzen8370 i love you could you tell me where are you from?

    • @denzen8370
      @denzen8370 4 роки тому

      @@kavehgaming546 no I'm not interested

  • @bluegreen4430
    @bluegreen4430 4 роки тому +1

    I love your perspective. Please keep posting more videos

  • @Enizax
    @Enizax 4 роки тому

    RIP Game apologist, I just discovered your channel and in-depth analysis of one of my favorite video game trilogies and now you're on your merry way out... It was fun while it lasted... Jokes aside, really looking forward to your next work!

  • @ericblackwell70
    @ericblackwell70 4 роки тому +3

    Knuckles whacking sonic through the paper was hilarious, imaging trying to read something only to have a fist fly through it 😂

    • @itsthelaw940
      @itsthelaw940 4 роки тому

      Sonic deserved it too lol. He literally sucker punches Knuckles for no reason in the page before that one, that’s why Knuckles was pissed in the first place.

  • @itsthelaw940
    @itsthelaw940 4 роки тому +16

    The Archie version of Knuckles is the best version of him period. Not only is he the most powerful version of Knuckles, but he’s the most sensible and interesting version of the character.

  • @budgoodrich6000
    @budgoodrich6000 4 роки тому

    Yep. Subscribed.
    You're very insightful and well-spoken. I think I'm finally up to date on your videos now, and I feel like I have an even deeper appreciation for these games which shaped my childhood.
    Also, I rewatched your rant in the Sonic 1 episode about ten times. Everything about it is brilliant. Looking forward to following you, man.

  • @OfficialNoCoast
    @OfficialNoCoast 4 роки тому

    i love your presentation skills. It definitely shows that you put a ton of work into these! Keep it up man you have a gift!

  • @JamesR624
    @JamesR624 4 роки тому +11

    2:39 It's Eukaryot, the maker of Sonic 3 Angel Island Revisited (A.I.R.), duh.

  • @ratfink2079
    @ratfink2079 4 роки тому +11

    I miss when Knuckles was cool, at least the boom cartoon makes him funny.

  • @whoyomommy5721
    @whoyomommy5721 4 роки тому

    30k!!!! Nice job man I love your work so keep at it can’t wait for 100k

  • @ludikaiser5105
    @ludikaiser5105 4 роки тому

    Hey, Nick. Stumbled across your content a few months back with the Sonic Forces episode and have recently re-stumbled into it for a bit of a binge session over the last week. In general appreciating the writing, delivery and editing in these vids. It's also nice to see some measured responses from someone else who's been around since the start. Excellent work!
    That said, the most interesting part for me has been these deep dives into the meaning behind S3&K's story. It's a game I've played countless times but I never really thought too hard about the growth aspects presented by these transformations. I'm finding myself with a new level of appreciation for a game I thought I couldn't love more and I wanted to thank you for that. Definitely earned a sub and then some. Looking forward to seeing what you're cooking up in the future.

  • @TheVillagerPro9_SRB2F23ofDR-UT
    @TheVillagerPro9_SRB2F23ofDR-UT 4 роки тому +9

    5:23 -
    "This Sparkling Rat Is the reason I'm Here, and now. He's coming for you."
    Me: no please don't...
    7:29 -
    "Put dat thing where it came from before i aaa"
    Me: Calm down, Knuckles.

    • @2097xl
      @2097xl 4 роки тому +1

      When I first saw that animation I thought knuckles was strumming a guitar

    • @TheVillagerPro9_SRB2F23ofDR-UT
      @TheVillagerPro9_SRB2F23ofDR-UT 4 роки тому +1

      Oof, I don't think he's strumming a Guitar.

  • @user-fy1nq3nf1q
    @user-fy1nq3nf1q 4 роки тому +6

    3:17 I really hope you cover him

  • @shonen991
    @shonen991 4 роки тому +2

    True. the Mural only shows eggman and sonic fighting for the master emerald. Never who is the bad guy. It makes sense that Knuckles wouldn't know which is which.
    Great video.

  • @oxyijin
    @oxyijin 4 роки тому

    It’s so amazing , last week you were just at 10k subs , I’m very proud of you for reaching over 20k, you seriously deserve it and this is literally as of right now my favorite channel 💯 Continue doing what you’re doing Nick! Super Proud and I can’t wait to see your sub count at the end of 2020 !

  • @conicthehedgehog9166
    @conicthehedgehog9166 5 місяців тому +7

    Hyper nakels, mi personaje de hyper knuckles adventure favorito

    • @ricardobtv4805
      @ricardobtv4805 5 місяців тому +2

      Hyper Knuckles adventures me encanta en ratatin gaming

  • @BreninWatson
    @BreninWatson 4 роки тому +3

    A sonic UA-camrs trending, never thought I’d see the day 😭😂

  • @bendito247
    @bendito247 4 роки тому +1

    Keep up the great content dude! Came here from the algorithm the other day, but love your videos. You’re like Cybershell but more energetic lol.

  • @SomeAfro
    @SomeAfro 4 роки тому

    UA-cam has honestly been so dry of actually in-depth Sonic video essays but you have started this series and I’m here for it. Can’t wait for you to cover more Sonic games.

  • @jaredlord4009
    @jaredlord4009 4 роки тому +5

    Knuckles is not just one of my favorite, if not THE favorite Sonic Characters, he's also one of the most important video game characters in my life. Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut that's several pages of me writing, talking about my life and history, and much longer than a UA-cam comment.

    • @GameApologist
      @GameApologist  4 роки тому

      I feel you, dude. Whole reason I went on these crazy tangents for this one game.

  • @supersmashbro596
    @supersmashbro596 4 роки тому +20

    i have a theory:
    mecha sonic was sent ahead of eggman to angel island to trick knuckles into thinking sonic was the villain. when sonic arrives, he clearly mistook sonic for mecha sonic, whom eggman was able to convince him was the mastermind of the robots appearing and such.
    all of which is false, but knuckles doesn't know any better. he lived most of his life without socializing. so yeah the first time, he could be fooled.
    also id like to think knuckles is socially awkward once made part of sonics team. decades of isolation cant be good for socializing.

    • @schwarzerritter5724
      @schwarzerritter5724 4 роки тому +7

      Eggman did not plan to crash land on Angel Island and Eggman did not know Knuckles was even there. But it is totally reasonable Eggman used Mecha Sonic to frame Sonic after he made contact with Knuckles. Originally, Knuckles probably just tolerated Eggman's presence as long as it takes to fix the Death Egg.

    • @supersmashbro596
      @supersmashbro596 4 роки тому

      @@schwarzerritter5724 that was kinda what i was saying. mecha sonic is what eggman used to manipulate knuckles. as in, he frames sonic with mecha sonic.

    • @sonicthehedgehog9727
      @sonicthehedgehog9727 4 роки тому

      @@supersmashbro596 Interesting theory. Maybe knuckles' story was an epilogue. That's pretty smart.

    • @supersmashbro596
      @supersmashbro596 4 роки тому +1

      @@sonicthehedgehog9727 knuckles story IS the epilogue.
      i mean, the island is still floating, sky sanctuary is basically destroyed and theres no death egg.

    • @corpsemachine6949
      @corpsemachine6949 4 роки тому

      Stop telling my business

  • @bluegem8582
    @bluegem8582 4 роки тому

    i just discovered your channel about half a day before this vid, and i already love it all, keep doing what you do man! (in a healthy amount and state)

  • @nummnutz7046
    @nummnutz7046 2 роки тому +2

    I like to imagine when knuckles grows old, he will look back at the damage the island sustained. He’d recall how upset he was after sonic came through tearing the place up. But, then he’d think how that’s not really true. Then, he’d look at the same bits of damage with a slight smile, recalling the splendid memories of old.

  • @Night-Lord
    @Night-Lord 4 роки тому +6

    “Unlike Sonic I don’t chuckle”
    *Literally chuckles in his first appearance*

  • @thetruej7872
    @thetruej7872 4 роки тому +6

    I miss The Super Emeralds

  • @GenWorldTV
    @GenWorldTV 4 роки тому

    I just spent past few days and watched these Sonic videos, im a fan and im gonna be checking out all your other content. This is golden stuff chief!

  • @waterlegend72
    @waterlegend72 4 роки тому +1

    I fucking love your content man
    No seriously, its great. Keep doing what you doing. I hope 2020 is a successful year for you man.

  • @GMaster4308
    @GMaster4308 4 роки тому +4

    0:51
    Whoa wait, what?
    Back up, back up... you can _skip_ the Super transformation?

    • @jackhumphries1087
      @jackhumphries1087 8 місяців тому +1

      Yea, you just collect the seven chaos emeralds before the end of launch base, and then just don’t try to glide with more than 50 rings, and finally enter the giant ring near the start of mushroom hill and proceed with the run as normal, collecting the super emeralds along the way

    • @GMaster4308
      @GMaster4308 8 місяців тому

      @@jackhumphries1087 Oh. Huh.

  • @ANoisyBroodOfFunch
    @ANoisyBroodOfFunch 2 роки тому +4

    Right, super and hyper knuckles should be canon, he protected the master emerald for a long ass time and should 100% be able to tap into the emerald’s power

  • @realepicaaron3326
    @realepicaaron3326 4 роки тому

    Video was amazing! Keep up the good work, I’m heading back to sonic mania now just to look at the differences between S3&K hyper knuckles to the mania. Anyway, as I said before, really nice video, I loved how detailed it was.

  • @kdasthenerd57
    @kdasthenerd57 4 роки тому +1

    I love this content, and must say I'm excited for a video on Sonic R

  • @shihanana
    @shihanana 4 роки тому +5

    Seriously, how is this channel so small!? This guy's content is grea- no not even great. Amazing! Like I geniunely want to know whow this guy isn't getting as much recognition as he needs.
    Anyway, yeah I'm kinda wondering why Sonic Team hasn't delved into Knuckles's character and backstory since Sonic Adventure 2. I see some great potential in sonic stories when it comes to this red knuckle headed dude as they can get some major profit if they tried to make a Knuckles based game further expanding his backstory, character and maybe gameplay. These are all just my thoughts though so who knows... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • @cyclops8238
      @cyclops8238 4 роки тому

      Well less than a week and a half ago he only had 2,000 subs and now he is up to 24,000 so I think that is a big accomplishment

  • @akuaku9252
    @akuaku9252 4 роки тому +3

    Would you have any thoughts on Rosy the Rascal, Aka Amy the living Flower?

  • @buckycarbon
    @buckycarbon 4 роки тому

    I love your reads of these characters and narratives

  • @anthonyfellows390
    @anthonyfellows390 4 роки тому

    So this little video is testament to the the power of storytelling and interpretation in S3+K. On the surface and especially in my youth.... (I was probably about 10 years old when I slammed the Sonic 3 cartridge into S&K and experienced this epic.) This game was a 16 bit game I enjoyed for it's awesome gameplay perfect soundtrack etc etc but looking back everytime I play through this game ... and believe me that's alot of playthroughs, theres always a little detail I've missed or someone points out how they interpret the story and it blows my mind! This truly is one of the best video games ever made. Thank you GA for this video you have received a new subscriber sir!!

  • @dummyGoat
    @dummyGoat 6 місяців тому +14

    Ratatin gaming referens

  • @ruanstorm8369
    @ruanstorm8369 4 роки тому +3

    7:28 nah man Knuckles is air-guitaring here, trying to make the scene more dramatic and all

  • @meberra
    @meberra 4 роки тому +1

    7:14 monsters ink reference lol this is a epic video hits all the FACTS!

  • @thesegacampgamerandwerecam7504
    @thesegacampgamerandwerecam7504 4 роки тому +2

    1:36 LMAO just like Dr. Eggman's saying from Sonic Adventure *Talks like Dr. Eggman* "Get a Load of This!"

  • @PlayDANMAKU
    @PlayDANMAKU 6 місяців тому +11

    Vine por Ratatin gaming