Arturia Keylab MKII & Analog Lab V
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- Опубліковано 19 вер 2021
- This short video is part of my epic 3 hr 20 minute tutorial video entitled ‘Setting Up A Professional Home Recording Studio & Publishing Your Music On Spotify & iTunes’ see link below:
Full video: • Setting up a home Reco...
Arturia Keylab MKII & Analog Lab V: www.arturia.com - Навчання та стиль
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Really good to see someone actually use this stuff and mess around with it, it's incredibly intimidating at first and probably puts alot of people off, thanks for taking the time to do this.
Thanks, Steve. I do have a lot of fun with these soft synths, as much as I do on my actual Nord Lead A1 synth.
Love your content. I was able to get the V Collection 9 and the Minifreak V for $189 after logging into my account! It was $599 on sale or $799 normally. They really reward loyalty! What an amazing company! Cheers 👏
Awesome demo! 96 tears brought back so many memories.
Ah yes, love 96 tears, both original and The Stranglers version, back when The Stranglers were decent with Hugh Cornwell on vocals, rather than the naff band they became when Hugh left.
Loved your demo.
Thanks, Jean!
Thank you very much for this incredible tutorial!!
Thanks, Marcelao!
Thank you for this excellent video. I find that the Keylab MkII 49 seems to have slightly better integration when it comes to navigation with Analog IV than with V. I'm heading now for your "epic" tutorial!
Hi Srinvivas. Interesting. I haven't used Analog 4 as it was replaced by V - though I do have both, so I don't know about the integration. But, I'm not surprised. I imagine that Arturia have just made V better and also improved the integration. Oh, yes, enjoy the 'Epic' ;) Also, watch out for the Addictive Drums 2 video that I'm working on. Now that is a seriously great piece of software and one I'll be using for laying down all my drum parts from now on, be it programmed by painting midi notes, or playing in via a midi pad controller. Will be out in a couple of weeks.
Amazing video ! Thanks a lot for showing us all the details, options, tips ✌🏻👍🏻👍🏻
You’re welcome, glad you liked it.
Loved this presentation. Really enjoyed you playing parts of the classics. I have the exact same setup and I love it. I have also purchased the V Collection 8 so I actually own all of these amazing keyboards.Just wonder why you haven't brought it up because it would save you so much money instead of buying the virtual vintage keyboards separately.
I will definitely watch your epic 3 hr 20 min. tutorial video. Thank you very much for taking your time to share this. You gave me more ideas!
Hi Cor. I forgot that V Collection 8 is the entire collection, though I'm sure that people looking into buying any of the vintage software keyboard synths will land upon V Collection and opt for that if they require all of them. Yes, it was funning playing those few classics ;) I'm having fun and games with the Mini Moog and bass lines at the moment.
@@tecraven Thank you for your reply! I have subscribed to your channel and am looking forward to your videos!
Seems like we have similar interests!
@@StupidTuberDude Thanks!
Thanks man. Good tutorial
Thanks, Jay!
This is one of the best videos.. i bye this gear soon
Thank you, Zeissler.
Love this keyboard I know what I'm saving up for :)
You don't be disappointed. Love mine and the synth action in it is way better than the crappy Fatar one in my Nord Lead A1, which cost way more than twice the price of this Arturia. I do wish people would stop banging on about Fatar synth keyboard actions because they are totally crap.
I know I’m late to the party with this comment, but thank you for this presentation. This is the best overview of this keyboard.
Thanks. Watch out for my upcoming new version of this video in about seven weeks. Featuring an all new (not yet released) Arturia midi keyboard controller and software.
@@tecraven any new info on this unreleased Arturia midi keyboard?
I got told it was delayed, but no indication or timeframe. I suspect a month perhaps.
@@tecraventhanks. I look forward to your review on it.
Fantastic to see a actually good musician using and loving this keyboard! I'm a guitarist myself, but in no band at a moment, so I want to do full band recordings by myself just for the fun of it. I have had a Roland A49 since forever and I have a MPK Mini, both of which I find a little lacking. SO I went out to find the "best" midi keyboard to boost my non guitar skills, it's a jungle, but I arrived at the Keylab Mk II 61 and have already ordered it(in black, it was cheaper). Looks like there will be no regrets. The included amazingly powerful soft synth is a pretty big bonus for me, as I have no big VST library, and the classic synth sounds fits me just fine as I'm into Classic/Progressive hard rock. I considered more stage piano like keyboards with hammer action, but I will never be a real piano player anyway so good quality synth keys is enough. Also, Keylab looks to have about the easiest to grasp workflow of any midi keyboard which is important for a not a synth guy like me. Subscribed!
Thanks, Per. You did the right thing ordering the Arturia Keylab as it is built out of metal, 'gigging' construction and the software can be either used as standalone on its own or in a DAW. Just open the included synth software (after creating account and downloading from Arturia of course) and start hitting those keys. Also, weighted piano keys are misunderstood. Now, not blowing my own trumpet here, but I have a degree in classical piano performance and I did the 8 grades in piano before this (and theory) and to be honest weighted keys on a synthesiser would simply slow you down and it would make may rock/pop synth parts harder. There's a good reason that there is a 'synth' action and a 'piano' action. Piano weighted key action is absolutely required for playing Beethoven's Moonlight sonata, but for playing Van Halen's 'Jump' a synth action (still full size keys like your Arturia) is required for sure.
I have a full size Roland HP603A digital piano with weighted piano keys, but I also have the Arturia midi keyboard controller (Keylab MKII 49-key) and a Nord Lead A1 synth too, the latter two both having full size synth keys and synth spring action - two different actions for two different jobs.
@@tecraven Thanks, yes exactly what I thought, I will never play Chopin but I may try to replicate some blazing synth leads. Mostly wall of strings though LoL
This is one of the best demo.
Thanks, Jeff
Some time later... WOW... what a spectacularly wonderful demo. In particular, when you started to play your saved presets. Won me over immediately. Understand, I am a guitar player wanting to make music... where anyone who plays... knows a song is primarily the beat and rhythm underneath it all. I want all the ambiance and character that is the core of a good song... where I can add-in my guitar's own unique voice.
This keyboard is perfect for me. Wonderfully done. I don't need a keyboard that is my DAW. DAW features are great, but I want options to simply add-in the flavor needed. The last part of this video is supurb! Thank you. Answered everything I care about. Can't say enough about how you chose to demo what I care about. Fantastico!
Thank you so much, Trevor. I really appreciate you taking the time to write this, it makes it all worthwhile for me making these videos!
Awesome review thank you
Thanks, Christian.
Enjoyed your video. Someone else could have mentioned this already, but you did not mention how the Analog Lab V software integrates so well with the keyboard, and how each preset is mapped to the encoders and faders, so you can customise each preset … there are limitless possibilities with each of the delivered 6000+ presets
Здравствуйте,в комплекте идёт полная версия Analog Lab или intro?
Thanks for a very helpful and well-done video. I am trying to decide between this Keylab mkii, the Keylab Essential, the Akai 249, and the comparable Novation. I already purchased Analog Lab. Your video has me leaning toward this Keylab mkii. Thanks again.
I'd go for either the Keylab MK2 or the Akai 249 - not tried the latter, but it looks decent and I had an Akai before, not this one, but a different model and it was superb. Essential is Arturia's budget range so I'd leave that.
Thanks very much for the quick reply.
I have the Keylab MKII (61 keys) and it’s an absolute joy to work with. Very sturdy and excellent overall functionality. Love the aftertouch. Plus, it integrates perfectly with their software.
@@vanessajazp6341 Agreed!
Hi sir, in macki control, input port and output port, why we need to select Keylab 61 Daw, why not keylab lab 61 midi ? Thanks
Rajkamal jangir
India
Nice video, great playing, and I like your studio array. 💯
Thanks. Watch out for a new updated version of this video coming in about six or seven weeks with a new version of this keyboard and software :-)
Great video. Can I ask where you got the stand for your typing keyboard? Also the wood stand for the iMac? I need to get those for my own rig!
Ok, the typing stand, I kind of modified it. It is a regular 'Laptop' stand, but I took an hacksaw and cut the front section off as it was too deep. This is it this (notice two front parts that I cut off with hacksaw): amzn.to/4bT72yV
The songmics stand I have here is this one, but, again, I took a small saw and cut the feet shorter and then stuck little rubber feet on four corners to stop it scratching my desk, but they don't do it anymore: amzn.to/4dOI3id
But, here is one that they still make, though a little different: amzn.to/3wQsplw
And here is something similar: amzn.to/3wMizRP
If you go onto Amazon and type in 'Computer desk stand' you'll see lots of similar ones too.
I cut my computer desk stand down as I found tilting my neck up, even a little, gave me neck ache. Remember, your eyes are supposed to be level with 1/3rd of the way down the screen from the top with your head an neck straight, as I am in this video.
Hope this post helps you out.
thanks for teaching to use.
You are more than welcome, Korn.
If You could make a video on how to use it with logic Pro x that would be amazing
13 min 30 seconds into this video I cover using it in Logic Pro X.
Where did you get that typing keyboard riser? I’ve been looking for something like that.
Good video!!
It's actually a Laptop stand made by a company called Awavo. I bought mine on Amazon but the front top support arms were too long and had bits that curled up at the front (to stop laptop falling forward) so I cut them off with a hacksaw (it's only light alloy) to fit the depth of my Apple keyboard. The rubber parts on top of the stand grip the bottom of the keyboard so it does not slip. This is the exact one I have www.awavotech.com/laptop-stand/awavo-laptop-stand-ergonomic-adjustable-computer-stand-for-desk/
This one is made by BoYata, but looks like a re-brand of the identical one I have, available in different finishes too: amzn.to/2Zlnh8c
Or if you're in the USA: www.amazon.com/dp/B08JD7FN44
Great vid!
Btw, was that a Chopin piece you were playing when demoing the piano V, a little past the midway mark of the video:)
It was Bach Prelude number 1 in C major BWV 846 first, then I did Beethoven’s Pathatique Sonata first movement.
Does anyone know what that computer keyboard stand is that he's using? I'd love to get one
Great video! Are those Kali LP-8 Monitors? How do you like them?
They are IN-8 monitors that are actually 3-way. Looks like only 2 speakers, but there are three as the midrange surrounds the tweeter. Yes, they are really good. There is more on them on my other video here: ua-cam.com/video/tIdy5ZPsL18/v-deo.html
Great video and thank you for the succinct walk-through. I wonder if you could tell me please what you are using to hold up your qwerty keyboard? :)
Hi Logjam. It's actually a Laptop stand made by a company called Awavo. I bought mine on Amazon but the front top support arms were too long and had bits that curled up at the front (to stop laptop falling forward) so I cut them off with a hacksaw (it's only light alloy and easy to cut) to fit the depth of my Apple keyboard. The rubber parts on top of the stand grip the bottom of the keyboard so it does not slip. I removed the rubber parts before cutting, then stuck them back on.
This one is made by BoYata, but looks like a re-brand of the identical one I have, available in different finishes too: amzn.to/2Zlnh8c
Or if you're in the USA: www.amazon.com/dp/B08JD7FN44
Like with lots of items these days several companies re-badge the same one so the above two are exactly the same as mine.
@@tecraven thank you so much for taking the time to reply to this. Now my desk is full of Arturia keyboard I need a way to create some space. Love the keyboard and you have really helped with this video. 😀
@@logjamstomper1280 You’re welcome
You're amazing what a great job great lighting your clothes the way you play thank you so much I just bought my keyboard today Danny B Funmanbe thank you
Thanks for your nice feedback, Danny!
Nice but is the 61 key more versatile as its longer than the 49 or is the 49 sufficient? I may go 49 mk2 or essential 61? Just unsure.?
Not for me personally and I'm an ex concert pianist who required 88 notes, but that was for Beethoven and Chopin. Most rock, pop, dance, 80s synth pop etc barely even requires two octaves so 49 keys is way more than enough in most instances. I went for the 49 as it takes up less space and I'm yet to require any more keys than that for my compositions. If you plan on doing classical piano then get 88 keys, apart from that, all other music I would have thought 49 would be fine. Don't bother with 'Essential' range as they are budget and plastic and not built anywhere near as well.
One question - during the editing of this video did you use the midi sound exported to wave or was it somehow recorded externaly? I'm talking about all of the audio coming from Arturia.
Ok, my voice (while speaking) to camera, was recorded into the lav mic clipped onto my funky orange jacket that you can see in shot. The Arturia synth sounds were coming directly from the computer. When I set up the 'screen video recording' option on my iMac I had it set to record the computer's sounds also.
Hi, great video! I want to purchase the Keylab MKII 61 as it has almost the same footprint as the 49 model 31" vs 34". I like the DAW compatibility function. Right now have a Korg Krome, but as soon as I get the Keylab working properly will be putting it up for sale.
I see what you mean about 61, not much bigger at all. Yes, DAW compatibility is great. I love mine, never misses a beat.
Thank you for the thorough demonstration. I was disappointed to learn that you don't get the full instruments in Analog Lab but only a very limited version with presets. Many reviewers on UA-cam got that wrong.
Yeah, this is normal though. It's like buying a Focusrite Claret audio interface and expecting the full version of Logic Pro (for example) rather than a demo of Ableton ;) For me, personally, I find the included versions are still amazing. Just means you can't do into fine detail tweaking settings, just the basis settings, but a lot of people won't want to tweak anything and will be happy with the hundreds of presets.
late to the party, too. liking the specs on this board, though, despite it being fairly 'old.' curious to see what's coming next from arturia (reading the comments below)
It's amazing, very impressive, about six weeks before I get a test sample.
do u have a video showing how the Arturia, the computer, the audio interface and the speakers are all hooked up together?.....thks
No, but it's really simple. Arturia Keylab attaches to the computer via USB. Audio Interface also connects to the computer via USB and then two TS jack cables are used to go from Audio Interface to the two monitors - that's it..
Thanks for the video, I was wondering something about your setup though- what stand are you using for your keyboard? I'm in the processes of planning out my own production desk and I was thinking of doing something very similar, but they don't really make a stand purpose built for keyboards that I could find. Would you recommend this product?
It's actually a Laptop stand made by a company called Awavo. I bought mine on Amazon but the front top support arms were too long and had bits that curled up at the front (to stop laptop falling forward) so I cut them off with a hacksaw (it's only light alloy) to fit the depth of my Apple keyboard. The rubber parts on top of the stand grip the bottom of the keyboard so it does not slip. This is the exact one I have (it has an ASIN model number: AWAVO M6 : www.awavotech.com/laptop-stand/awavo-laptop-stand-ergonomic-adjustable-computer-stand-for-desk/
This one is made by BoYata, but looks like a re-brand of the identical one I have, available in different finishes too: amzn.to/2Zlnh8c
Or if you're in the USA: www.amazon.com/dp/B08JD7FN44
@@tecraven Oh, nice. I was looking through Amazon at their laptop and tablet stands and I thought that might be the Besign LSX3 but I wasn't sure because of the mod. It's a shame nobody makes something specifically for this purpose but given it's a small niche of people who would buy it of an already niche market I can understand. Thank you for the reply, you've been quite helpful
@@tecraven thank you!
Great Video! With my Logic x I can't change the in & out put to my key lab (Minute 14:25) do you maybe know why?
Sorry, don't know in this instance. I'd ping Arturia a quick message via their tech support on their website.
Thanks for this video and i will buy the Mk11 61 keyboard. I have one question if i may, as these are presets i cannot adjust any of the paramaters such as frequency cut off unless i buy full version of the synth.
Yes, that's correct. There are some 'basic' things you can change with the free synth presets, but for complex stuff, yes, you need to buy the full version. But, I'd be surprised if you can't find presets you like as there are hundreds per instrument. I've only been in and tweaked something once over the past year I've been using them. I love the presets.
@@tecraven Thanks for confirming, your review sold me on the Mkii and arturia seems like a fantastic all round product. Thanks again!
Hello sir, i recently purchased arturia keylab 61 mk2, which cable do i need to connect it with MacBook Pro's thunderbolt 4 port ? A usb type b to type a cable included with arturia.
Hi RJ. Ok, first just to clear up some confusion. Just for your knowledge. Thunderbolt 3 and 4 both share the exact same connector as USB-C, they are all the same. Thunderbolt 4 is the same as Thunderbolt 3, only difference is data transfer speed is faster on 4 and the 4 allows you to wake computer. But Thunderbolt 3 is way more than you need in speed for data transfer from the midi keyboard to your Mac. So you need a Thunderbolt 3 or 4 to USB-B or a USB-C to USB-B. Here is a link to one (1-meter, but you can buy as long as you require) example: amzn.to/3OnsmBQ
@@tecraven Thank you so much sir
acá jamás voy a usar los instrumentos de arturia uso otro sofware, quería preguntar como puedo configurar los 16 PAD para que cada uno active los instrumentos de MIDI CHANNEL, por que es muy incomodo la forma de cambiar entre instrumentos con el botón y la teclas, si me pudieran ayudar, es con MIDI CONTROL CENTER pero como lo hago, uso reason de prophellerhead, gracias
Los detalles de cómo hacerlo estarán en el manual de instrucciones, que puede descargar en español, aquí:
downloads.arturia.net/products/keylab-49-mkII/manual/KeyLab-MKII_Manual_2_1_ES.pdf
Great Vid! One thing you might consider is when your talking and when playing there is a significant volume change. The instrument becomes way loud and I have to adjust the volume down and then back up when you speak. I believe you could use a volume leveling program to balance the volume. Any way this video helped a lot with my decision to buy this device. I use Studio One as my recording software and if this will interface smoothly with that program it will be wonderful. 😀
I did that balance thing on purpose to give the music more punch and make it 'pop' a bit more. In hindsight I probably exaggerated things a 'trifle' ;)
around 24 minutes and past that, the presets you showed, did you tweak any of the parameters to make those little parts you played. Or were all the presets just from the arturia software that anyone could also select?
No tweaks on those, all presets. If I made a tweak I showed it.
What is that stand called for your computer keyboard ? Or is it a laptop stand? If so what is it called. Please and thank you
It's actually a Laptop stand made by a company called Awavo. I bought mine on Amazon but the front top support arms were too long and had bits that curled up at the front (to stop laptop falling forward) so I cut them off with a hacksaw (it's only light alloy) to fit the depth of my Apple keyboard. The rubber parts on top of the stand grip the bottom of the keyboard so it does not slip. This is the exact one I have (it has an ASIN model number: AWAVO M6, but I can't find it online anymore, but, it appears to be a re-branded thing so several companies are using the same one and just branding it as their own.
This one is made by BoYata, but looks like a re-brand of the identical one I have, available in different finishes too: amzn.to/2Zlnh8c
Or if you're in the USA: www.amazon.com/dp/B08JD7FN44
Where did you find that computer keyboard stand?
It's actually a Laptop stand made by a company called Awavo. I bought mine on Amazon but the front top support arms were too long and had bits that curled up at the front (to stop laptop falling forward) so I cut them off with a hacksaw (it's only light alloy) to fit the depth of my Apple keyboard. The rubber parts on top of the stand grip the bottom of the keyboard so it does not slip. This is the exact one I have (it has an ASIN model number: AWAVO M6 : www.awavotech.com/laptop-stand/awavo-laptop-stand-ergonomic-adjustable-computer-stand-for-desk/
This one is made by BoYata, but looks like a re-brand of the identical one I have, available in different finishes too: amzn.to/2Zlnh8c
Or if you're in the USA: www.amazon.com/dp/B08JD7FN44
Hey Tech Raven - Can you provide the link for the Apple Keyboard stand you are using - It's awesome. You've really inspired me to organise my studio space. Keep up the great videos!! Just subscribed.
It's actually a Laptop stand made by a company called Awavo. I bought mine on Amazon but the front top support arms were too long and had bits that curled up at the front (to stop laptop falling forward) so I cut them off with a hacksaw (it's only light alloy) to fit the depth of my Apple keyboard. The rubber parts on top of the stand grip the bottom of the keyboard so it does not slip. Awavo don't make this one anymore, but they never made it anyway as I've seen three different branded ones that are all identical so companies just re-brand this model.
This one is made by BoYata, but looks like a re-brand of the identical one I have, available in different finishes too: amzn.to/2Zlnh8c
Or if you're in the USA: www.amazon.com/dp/B08JD7FN44
@@tecraven Thanks ever so much for your prompt and most helpful response.
@@tecraven thanks ever so much!
How can I play in my Keylab 49 and hear it through my earphones simultaneously? I also use the Minifase 2.
If you're talking about using Analog Lab software with your Keylab you don't need the MiniFuse, just USB Keylab into your computer directly and use the computer's headphone socket - this is the easiest way. Otherwise, with MiniFuse change auto settings on your computer to select the MiniFuse as the audio input and outputs and plug headphones into MiniFuse.
having problems even logging in, and or registering, anyways I have a question Does this controller need drivers to work>> I have an older IMAC. I thought when you plug it in it should recognize this board?? I just bought this controller earlier today!!
Not sure about this, John, but Arturia are really helpful if you ping them a message via their support page on their site.
Hallo!Can you explai?what is the diffrence to Arturia keylab essential 61and MK 2,many thanks.
Essential is Aruria's budget range that have a more budget 'feel' to them as they are made to a budget. They are still decent and better than many other brands higher end midi keyboard controllers (better than the Roland and a few others I can think of). The Keylab MK2 is their higher end range and they are built into a metal case, rather than the plastic one of the Essential models, and they Keylab MK2 also have a better synth keyboard action that feels a bit nice and plays better and the other all feel of the sliders and nobs are just more luxury in feel. Think of the Essential as being a Ford car and the Keylab MK2 as being a more premium BMW or Audi.
Hi, now that it has been a year more - I am looking for a beginner MIDI piano that will be portable and allowed in economy class hand carry airlines specifically from saudi or canada to philippines, my country.
I want something to learn with as a beginner and will last a lifetime - same with roland fp30x but I want it to be way lighter - either synth or real weighted piano. Pls help ❤
I am looking forward to buying this Arturia mkii black 61 keys color to be shipped to saudi arabia khobar.
I just bought roland fp30x from a music store yesterday - but i will return it back because good review videos I watched for asturia mkii ❤️
I never played piano but I am really willing to learn.
1.) One also concern is - if you take this piano to your gigs - what is the most portable piano stand for the arturia mkii 61 keys - that can be modified to carry apple laptop too?
If not please recommend the best/sturdy portable keyboard stand & separate laptop stand - both should be sturdy and easy to carry. Please refer yravel cases too for the keyboard stand and laptop stand.
2.) Changing that built-in battery how hard is it to replace? Is it easily replaceable in any battery shops? Or the charger?
3.) For travel - please refer to me a hard case & a softcase but padded in case i can take it as a carry on luggage.
4.) What other accessories should I buy together with the keyboard including speakers and such because i do not know well. Assume that I have this keyboard asturia mkii 61 keys and an macbook laptop - what else would i need to buy to complete my initiial setup and that O can play and learn?
With much anticipation and excitement,
Isagani
Hi . Can we use that Midi controller to performance live ? Can I connect with my Yamaha genos to play together. I just want to purchase more sound and voice .when playing like Dj sound. Example like winds sound or background sound so on. v.. v. Thanks for the video.
Hi Steven
Yes, you can use it to perform live. Many bands use this Arturia on stage. They connect it to a laptop to use the various Arturia plug-ins and synth emulators etc and output the laptop to the PA. Like any other MIDI controller, you can use it to trigger and play back sounds that you source from pretty much anywhere.
Yamaha Genos has MIDI in/out, but no ‘through’ that I can see so not sure how connecting the Arturia up will work on that front. Arturia has MIDI in/out also, but no through either. But I’m sure they can be connected via midi so one triggers the other and vice-versa.
Arturia have a decent forum so I’m sure there is somebody there who can answer more definitively.
forum.arturia.com
@@tecraven thank you Raven. I will try to find the answer in that forum. And make sure can be used with my iPad pro. I don't want to carry a big lagtop around when I have a show. Have a nice day Raven
The only problem with presets and not being able to modify them is that you can't do automations like opening filters, etc.. So the presets are mostly useless for my use-case. But the keyboard itself is amazing and worth the money alone.
If you buy the software synth you can modify and tweak the presets and do everything you want. And they are still a bargain even if you have to buy them.
26:00 well this was helpful af for my Blinding Lights remix lol
I believe if you buy the Arturia V Collection (version 9 currently, as of Sept 2022), you get the full versions of ALL of those instruments.
Could well be. I've had a few emails from Arturia during September 2022 with great deals and massive reductions on certain pieces of software.
In india they're running an offer where you get free v collection with every purchase of keylab mk2
@@sanidhyachauhan5578 I bought the Keylab MKII a few years ago, and with that I get huge discounts on all their software. I still had to pay for V-collection 9, but I paid even less than the sale price that was offered last November (2022).
Hello sir, what is mackie control ? In logic, and how is it related with keylab mk 2 ?
Mackie Control is simply a physical mixer with various other playback controls, made by ‘Mackie’. Some engineers don’t like to edit ‘in the box’ meaning just in Logic with no outboard equipment. They prefer a physical mixing desk such as those by SSL with EQ built into the channel strips, or the Mackie ones such as what we are talking about here. So, the Mackie control that I use in Logic for the Arturia Midi keyboard controllers is chosen because it controls the Arturia in the same way that it controls the Mackie control desk. That’s about the crux of it anyway.
As extra knowledge. ‘Logic Control’ is a control surface that was designed by Emagic (Logic was Magic Logic many years ago when Apple first acquired them) in cooperation with the Mackie company. Back in the days of Emagic Logic, Logic Control (designed by Emagic) was a dedicated control surface to be used with Logic software i.e. the DAW. Soon after this Mackie brought out a similer hardware controller called ‘Mackie Control’.
But, don’t let this hurt your head, it just works with Arturia Keylab midi keyboard controllers in that the software behind it and the language just allows perfect communication between the Arturia and Logic. Some other hardware devices also use the Mackie Control in the settings too.
@@tecraven so, mackie is a setting in control surface to connect Keylab and logic. In simple words ? And Thank you so much, sir
@@rajkamaljangir3618 Yes, if there was a setting called 'Arturia Keylab' we would choose that, but there isn't, so we choose Mackie instead.
@@tecraven 🙂
where to buy external power supply for the keyboard?
Hmm, not sure, I only ever power mine over USB to computer. But if you want to use it as a controller live with no computer the manual says 'an optional 9-12v DC 1.0A power supply' should be used. See page 7 of this downloadable PDF manual downloads.arturia.com/products/keylab-49-mkII/manual/keylab-mk2_Manual_1_0_0_EN.pdf
@@tecraven thank you sir...appreciated!
am using the arturia keylab mk2 88keys...... i noticed when i press full down on suspend pedal and hold..... the lower keys being held down by left hand loose their suspend abruptly the moment the right hand plays several keys continuosly in a riff.... if right hand jus plays not so fast and few keys...then the left keys still maintain their suspend...... this is not normal i think...... anyone experience this?..... was using Ableton Live 12 alone.... with Analog V and Piano 3 there is no problem......sustain remained as long as pedal was pressed
It sounds like a 'polyphony' thing. Polyphony is basically the simultaneous combination of two or more notes (in this instance) being played at the same time. For your info, 'Polyphony' come from the Greek word for 'many sounds'. Anyway, most vintage synth sounds, and many others are not multi polyphonic, they are monophonic, meaning they can only play one note at a time and as soon as you play another note it cuts off or stop the first not and, essentially, replaces it. If you choose a classical piano sound, such as a Steinway, Bösendorfer or Yamaha, for example, your problem should go away as pianos can play as many note at a time as you choose. If a particular model of electric piano, or keyboard, is described (in the instruction manual tech specs) that it has 120-note polyphony, it means you can play up to 120 notes at any one time (in your case held down with the sustain pedal also) before you run into issues i.e. when you play the 121st note, the first of the 120 will get chopped away. Hope this is making sense.
So, basically, chose a piano sound such as a classical Yamaha or Steinway and see if that fixes it, if it does, the reason you are having issues is because you are trying to play a monophonic vintage synthesiser, which can only play one note at a time.
@@tecraven aahhhh...that makes sense.... and also the issue was perculiar to Ableton Live 12 when I layered about 5 different sounds....so i guess it must be what you explained........ thanks for your kind enlightenment....really appreciate your efforts teaching us .......will learn more from your videos....Cheers sir
Hello sir, i registered keylab 61 mk2 on arturia's site, and i downloaded latest version for ASC, in ASC i active all license and installed all software apart from analog lab v, because it couldn't complete the download, after installation, in logic Pro x on software plugin analog lab 4, it says domo version why ?
Click here - www.arturia.com - for main Arturia site. Log in at the top/right and then when you do click on your name at the top right and click on ‘MY PRODUCTS’ and you’ll see your KeyLab keyboard. On the right side of that column click on ‘See More’ with the down arrow and in there it will have ‘Analog Lab V’ under the activations.
If it is not, fill out this form and tell Arturia that it is not listed and how to get it registered there so it is not working as a Demo in Logic. www.arturia.com/contact
@@tecraven one more question sir, in ASC I'm trying to download analog lab v from last 2days, but couldn't succeed, when download reached on 99 or 100 %, it says download error, i written about this issue to arturia, but couldn't get answer ?
@@rajkamaljangir3618 Hopefully Arturia will get back soon. Not sure where you are but in UK it is bank holiday Easter weekend and places did not re-open until today (Tuesday). Could be many things, the Arturia site perhaps. Maybe try a different browser. I use a Mac and Safari on Mac is twitchy and if I have a problem I find I don't have a problem when I use Firefox for the same thing. Worth a try perhaps.
@@tecraven Thanks sir, for offline activation, i will upload the ascr file extension on Arturia's system. After that I will get ascl file extension on my email. for finale successful Authorization, Which file extension i need to upload on ASC ?
Thanks, and I'm from India
@@rajkamaljangir3618 Hi Raj. I"m not sure about the file extension thing.
what is the name of the pc keyboard stand?
It's actually a Laptop stand made by a company called Awavo. I bought mine on Amazon but the front top support arms were too long and had bits that curled up at the front (to stop laptop falling forward) so I cut them off with a hacksaw (it's only light alloy) to fit the depth of my Apple keyboard. The rubber parts on top of the stand grip the bottom of the keyboard so it does not slip. This is the exact one I have (it has an ASIN model number: AWAVO M6 : www.awavotech.com/laptop-stand/awavo-laptop-stand-ergonomic-adjustable-computer-stand-for-desk/
This one is made by BoYata, but looks like a re-brand of the identical one I have, available in different finishes too: amzn.to/2Zlnh8c
Or if you're in the USA: www.amazon.com/dp/B08JD7FN44
@@tecraven Thanks for the detailed reply.
It would be great if Arturia incorporated Analog Lab and piano synth engines inside the controller itself so that you only need to take the keyboard out to a gig.
Hi Nigel it's Danny B Funman, I've been going crazy looking for a tutorial on how to set up the pads on Arturia Keylab 49 MKII finger drumming, using logic Pro X Drum Designer sounds. So I can assign the drums from logic to the pads please if you can help me with this that would be very helpful. I'm getting my Arturia Keylab 49 MKII Saturday.
Hi Danny. I have too many other videos I'm trying to get on with at the moment so no plans for this one I'm afraid. But doing a search on here for something like "Setting up midi pads in Logic" should get some results that will help you out.
can Analog V do recording as we play?... stand alone by itself?
No. Needs to be used in DAW for that.
want need the Keyboard stand ?
It's actually a Laptop stand made by a company called Awavo. I bought mine on Amazon but the front top support arms were too long and had bits that curled up at the front (to stop laptop falling forward) so I cut them off with a hacksaw (it's only light alloy) to fit the depth of my Apple keyboard. The rubber parts on top of the stand grip the bottom of the keyboard so it does not slip. The exact one I have (it has an ASIN model number: AWAVO M6
This one is made by BoYata, but looks like a re-brand of the identical one I have, available in different finishes too: amzn.to/2Zlnh8c
Or if you're in the USA: www.amazon.com/dp/B08JD7FN44
Maybe you can answer a question I can't seem to find the answer to? Are the keys full size? Great demo by the way :-)
Yes, they are full size Synth keys. Same as my Nord Lead A1 synth.
Brilliant! Thanks for that. Now I just need to choose between White and Black :D
White is great. Looks like an Audi TT ;)
I am a bit torn LOL :D
Personally, I think it is easier to see all the buttons and dials and controls on the white one, things just seem clearer, at least I think so. Also, I’m just not too keen on dark gloomy things on my desktop :-)
i jus got my Keylab 88 mk 2......but it only came withe free Analog Lab 4...... how do i get to Analog Lab V ?
Could be you have to register your keyboard here www.arturia.com/support to get additional bits. If that does not work, on the same page click the 'Contact Support' at the bottom and explain you just bought it and registered it (register it first on this same link) and ask for Analog Lab Pro, which is what it is now called.
@@tecraven thank you....great help!..... yes managed to get it.... cheers!
now checking where to download Piano V.......my bundle only Piano 2
@@tecraven thanks....did it!
@@HonorV2ultimate1tb Brilliant!
I have seen a lot of reactions on musicshops from people who bought this keyboard, but they all tell, very weak keybed, you can get stuck with your fingers, and the keys bend?
Hi Pauluz. They might be getting confused for the KeyLab 'Essential' models, which is Arturia's budget range and they have a different keyboard in them, but even they would not bend or be weak so not sure where this info is coming from. As for the KeyLab MK2 they are made out of a metal construction and they have the same keyboard action that is in Arturia's Brute high end synths and this action is miles better than the crappy Fatar keyboard that Nord and other manufactures stick in their midi controllers and synths. I have a a Nord Lead A1 synth that cost me. £1,200 and the Fatar keyboard that is in that is absolutely crap, it rattles and has no feel at all. The Arturia KeyLab MK2 is way better, feels nicer, stronger, does not rattle or clang. I have no idea whey keyboard makers see fit to use Fatar keypads as they are so crap. Fatar got a reputation in the 80s for keyboard actions, but their synth action is pants. The Arturia Keylab MK2 is the best synth action I've ever played and I've been playing synths since the 80s and have owned and used pretty much every midi keyboard controller on the planet. Honestly, anybody who is saying that the KeyLab MK2 keyed is weak and can get stuck with your fingers (whatever that means) and the keys bending must have been tripping and delusional while playing one ;) Noel Ghallager from Oasis (High Flying Birds now) owns several Arturia keyboard controllers, including this one, and Brute synths etc, as to many other world famous musicians and composers.
I don't get paid a penny from Arturia, I'm not affiliated with them, I just recommend this keyboard controller as after trying them all I felt it was by far the best one out there.
I bought one of these following this review, but despite the excellent construction and (for the most part) features, I just sent it back for a number of reasons:
1. The keys feel premium to the touch, but they're smaller than full size and and wobble a lot when playing and have quite sharp edges. They dont feel sturdy at all.
2. Aftertouch requires unreasonable amounts of pressure and is basically either on or off (trying to control the 0-127 range is practically impossible)
3. The faders have a mind of their own - turns out I had a faulty unit causing this but still, I'd expect better at this price.
4. No arpeggiator....
19:20 Somehow I knew you'd play this.
Got to be done :-)
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there's no Roland sh7
You mean SH-7 software synth? Maybe because Arturia figured the other Roland synths and the Moog, Oberheim etc cover most of what people want. Could be the SH-7 is too niche a market and not enough people would buy it?
I can’t believe you referred to Journey as modern 😂😂😂
Did I? I guess 'classic' would have been a better option. Still, I suppose it is modern compared to the Beethoven that I demonstrated ;)
@@tecraven Everything’s relative, eh? 😂
Thanks. But? Can’t why not use the drawbars on the keyboard ? I mean. it looks like you’re missing an opportunity here to show us the keyboard. do you have another video thanks? No
I demonstrate the sliders using it in Logic Pro on the long 3 hr 20 min video, but only using them in the DAW.
Thanks.
@@tecraven could you please point to a timestamp where in the 3:20 min video you show the sliders in use in logic? Thanks so much
@@adrianarmirail ua-cam.com/video/umcJ4CODKVg/v-deo.html it's the 47:13 - Midi Keyboard/Synth Controller section. In hindsight though I don't think I demo using the sliders to adjust levels in Logic, but I do talk about mapping these, show the mapping and move the sliders on the KeyLab while talking about it in this section. I could not see the point of actually going any further than this as it's obvious what they do. Besides, I never use them for this as I find the mouse just as quick and when you do move a slider it tends to jump upon first touching the slider to a place you generally don't want.
But the Analog lab features are not totally unlocked and they don't tell you that and that is a industry bait and switch..shame on you Arturia ! I own the Analog Lab and the MK ll 88
Ok, there is a flip side to this coin, Dave. Yes, they are not unlocked so you have total access to every single dial, lever, switch, slider etc on a Roland Jupiter 8, but there are loads of presets for the Jupiter 8 and most people would not know what to do if they were given the Jupiter 8 and all of it's ADSR subtractive synthesis and all the other stuff that goes with it. Just ask Noel Gallagher as he owns a Keylab MKII and he said (watch video on Arturia website, link in main description for this video) that he loves pre-sets and who the hell wants to go messing around with 'envelopes' etc. The Roland Jupiter, for example, cost £99 on the Arturia website, as do most of the other software synths if you feel professional enough to dig in and if you really know what you're doing with those, but for most people the pre-sets are more than enough as they have been engineered and set up as patches by professional synth guys. I know I love the pre-sets that these guys have set up. I do agree that many companies do have 'bait' and I'm not a fan of that, but in this case Arturia are not doing that, they are giving away the full sounds of all their software synths, just with the hundreds of expertly designed pre-sets and a few basic parameters settings so it is still way more than usable for most people and if it's good enough for Noel Gallagher and his High Flying Birds then it's good enough for me.