Arturia KeyLab 88 MKII - Yes, it's the best!
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- I think the Arturia KeyLab 88 MKII is the best MIDI controller keyboard you can buy. In this video I explain why!
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This looks like such an amazing keyboard controller and I think I know now what I will be upgrading to next. Thank you for the great walkthrough! 🙏❤
Very well made video! I particularly liked the up-close pan during "connectivity." It was clear and very high quality.
Purchased this a couple months back
absolutely LOVE THIS KEYBOARD
Great to see how far your channel has come in the short time it’s been around.
Always rely only on your videos for the best advice
Cheers Isaac! I'm havin a ball too!
Great review Mike - looks like a solid, well thought out bit of kit. Hope you have many happy years together :-)
I REALLY wanted to like this controller but had to return it and get the 61. A lot of what I do when recording is synth-based and the keys are super heavy and for me very unnatural for this type of work. I also play piano and have a hybrid with full length grand piano keys and the KeyLab 88s action was still significantly heavier than that (and a bit squishy feeling). As much as I love piano-like action, I wish they made an 88 key version with the same exact build quality except for the keys that are on the 61 as an option.
Anyway, nice video! Glad you are enjoying it!
I was literally just looking at getting this keyboard and this video for sure solidified my choice. Great video by the way!
You won't regret :)
@@CreativeSauce Can confirm it has great build quality. Keys feel great, the action is nice, all the buttons, nobs, and sliders feel great. The interface is great as well. Cant wait to mess around with it more!
You got it already? Congratulations!
Great information Mike. Thanks. As I recall, it comes in a great box too. ;)
Thankyou so much, extremely helpful video!
Very nice review. Thank you!
Love your channel
I bought a 61 a couple of years ago for all the reasons you have covered. The build quality is superb. I did realise quite quickly that I should have gone for the 88 though. Still a great unit nonetheless.
Yes, the 99 essential is good also - and much cheaper!
Hi Mike I could not afford the 88 but purchased the Essentials 49 instead. Thanks for the push in the right direction. Just on reviews I am excited
I lust after one of these. Got a 61 essential, but not so keen on the keyboard. Cheers for ths review :-)
Great video as always Mike. Those 88 weighted keys made me jealous though ....ah.... maybe one day. 🤪👍
I want to purchase this keyboard .
Thank you for info.. really helpful video..
Excellent video! A very informative and well structured review, which covers all important points in just ten minutes! Great! Sanjay C made a video a year ago which was entitled "Arturia Keylab 88 MKii - Is it really the BEST?" Do you refer to that video with the title of your video? Almost looks like...
Stay Lit, Mike 🔥
Great job buddy so I just subscribed. Cheers Ricky 💃🕺🏼🎶🐈⬛🎸💃🎶
Arturia Keystep is my best purchase of 2020. Midi inspired by Creative Sauce and BandLab Cakewalk.
Thanks for video!I've made the decision for arturia. Proly get the 25 II tho
That's what I have. MK II Black. Still great (Though, now that I'm exploring Orchestral and other genres as well, I require more keys.)
Great review! You've earned a new subscriber. In addition to all the pros you mentioned: One aspect that also played a role in my buying the Arturia KeyLab 88 MKII were the (separately sold) wooden legs. They look beautiful and turn the controller into a well designed piece of furniture.
Excellent mate you helped me make a decision on which to buy the Arthuria or M Audio S 88
Super awesome video. I'll be getting mines in a month or 2. I've been waiting for the Black version to come out for almost a year.
Request:
Could you showcase how DAW control works in Cakewalk?
I've seen in forums that it's possible with a script/program someone wrote
Great video thanx. I bought the keylab essential 49 a bit more than a year ago. I am completely new to music production, and i have somewhat given up on figuring out how to set up the arturia. Im a total novice and would love some tips.
If you could make a video on how to set up the keylab in Cakewalk, that would be great. The sliders work fine in the arturia software, but i have been failing to get the sliders, knobs and especially the transport functions working in Cakewalk. Help!! Lol. Also this is my first comment but i also loved your video on Cakewalk. I learned alot
thanks! just found your channel. I think I'll go with this. I don't play piano but I compose music for video and videos using Logic Pro x.
Thank you 👍
Thanks for this info! I have had an Akai MPK-88 for years (*not* the Road 88 that seems to have been a disaster) and it has been a great workhorse both in the studio and in the pit (it's pretty heavy, though). The keyboard on the Akai is decent but not great, so I'm wondering if the time has come to move on the the KeyLab Mk 2, and this video will help in that decision.
Awesome video! Thank you so much for sharing! At 4:23 what are the VU meters on top they look great!
Great choice Mike. It's nice to see a white version where you can read the words printed on the keyboard. Oh you are a happy schoolboy. lol. 😜🎶
I am indeed Steve!
Hi Mike, I've been looking at this keyboard for a while now. Really like the features. I have most of the
Arturia software all ready. My question is as I've seen several have ask is how well does it work with cakewalk. I've been using Cakewalk as I've found all your videos on the software. You mention hooking it up with a Mackie something. can you do a short video on what you are talking about? The transport control to cakewalk is the only thing holding me back from buying one of these.
you have the feeling that they remembered profi musicians with a lot of creativity regarding different working types. I would love a black color for this
TP/100 LR gives me the willies. I went with StudioLogic SL88 Grand instead, with Faderfox Controllers to make up for the lack of cc controllers. Having two Midi Outs is nice, but all that CV stuff on the Arturia is excellent.
Me too. I'm already dealing with a clacky old Fatar keybed and I have a series 1 Keylab61 with possibly the worst keybed i've ever felt. I want to like the TP100/LR, but it worries me.
Great vid! I have a question regarding the trigger pads. Can you use them to trigger different sets of samples on your keyboard or you're just stuck with one scene/set of sounds assigned to the pads? best.a.
I'd still consider a Linnstrument, despite it being more expensive and not having controls. It has polyphonic aftertouch (no fatar key bed has it), mpe and all the configurations are done on the unit itself, which makes the device plug and play without the need of drivers.
Nice broll!
Thank you 🙌
Another great video . Is it compatible with Cakewalk ? Be good to see a video showing how to set it up.
Beautiful video! I myself have a Keylab 61 MK2 and I'm desperately trying to integrate it with Cakewalk? Do you run it there as well, or only in Studio One? Thanks for any advice.
I've been using a Yamaha P115, Roland VR-09 and Korg NanoKontrol2 to cover my needs but I think I'll try to trade them in for the KeyLab 88 MkII when the music stores open again. Thanks for giving me a new headache for 2021!
Didn’t know YT allowed more than one person to use the same handle.
Great video, thank you. What is the mic stand here please?
Hi Mike, I really want this controller. You mentioned the NI S88 mk2 as alternative, what is your feeling on the difference between the feel of both instruments? I have the original S88 but I’m not impressed. And secondly Cakewalk question, can I create multiple DAW control surfaces with the same Mackie protocol? I can’t seem to get it to work. I have the S88, NI S61 mk2 and a Behringer X-touch that all have DAW controls and would like to use depending at which instrument I’m sitting at the time
Hi Mike, great vid as always. I own the previous version of the Arturia and love it. My question, though, is not regarding the keyboard but rather your desk. I’ve been searching on and off for a good while for a desk with a pull-out tray that will fit a full 88 key keyboard. Could you share the info on where you found yours?
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Hi. Thank you so much for your amazing videos on Cakewalk. Since the Arturia does not come with Cakewalk as a built-in DAW preset, could you please make a video on how to setup controllers like the Arturia or the M-Audio Hammer 88 to work with Cakewalk.
Thanks in advance.
Normally I'm not suckered in my cosmetics but that looks absolutely beautiful! With such a great feature set behind it it this is going on my "when I win the lottery" list.
Awesome video man! Could you please tell me the name of the background music used during 3:23 - 4:29 ?
DAW control compatible with cakewalk?
I use Arturia Keylab49 mkii as my main midi controller.
Hi @CreativeSauce, I would like to know how it goes with Cakewalk, since the MCU seems a little problematic with it.
Another point: One can use program change with deep configuration with it? Some Roland modules are very annoying at changing banks and programs...
Hi thanks for the info very interesting. Can I ask if you can use the pads in logic to play back set up chords etc...?
hi! loved that. had a question im looking to buy this keyboard but im confused should i buy digital piano or this midi keyboard , since it has weighted hammer action and many many sound options it looks better deal than a digital piano. btw im okay with using it with a DAW, i mostly use pro tools and Ableton live.
I purchased the keylab 88 MKll in May of last although I only received it in early December. It is a very nice controller. The keybed is good, I still prefer my Korg Kronos 73 keybed. My biggest issue being I play a lot of VI guitar is the placement of the bend wheel. Being that it is up at the top of the far side of the board makes it a bit of a pain but I got used to it. One thing I have not found yet though is a way to adjust the sensitivity of the keys action. The Kronos key bed built my fingers up so much that some articulations are triggered by too much velocity when it was not intended. Thanks for doing this Mike, you rule!
Very interesting, I just bought one of these to replace my Kronos 73... How different is the keybed? I've heard mixed reports, that it's a bit too heavy, or a bit spongey? I really like the action on my Kronos, but find it a bit noisy when playing at low volume levels, like the keys are clunking off their bed pads.
@@Teeb2023 It took a little getting used to but after about 3 weeks I got used to the keybed. The velocity sensitivity is what I need to figure out, some of my guitar VST'S are very sensitive and the pinches are too easy to play with too much pressure.
I still love the Kronos keybed the best hands down.
Hi Mike.
If you were going with a midi keyboard, would you consider the Arturia keylab 88 over the Montage by Yamaha or the Fantom by Roland?
Thanks for this helpful video. Do you know of a software package that brings the features of an Arranger Keyboard to a midi controller? These features would include voices, rhythms, the ability to save presets (registrations), and a recording function. Thanks
Hi, I just bought it too, because of this video 😉
However, I did not manage to have its DAW mode control Cakewalk. If you did, could you somehow share how you did it please?
The only one I've seen with more outputs would probably be the Physis K4ex from Viscount in Italy. I think that unit has 8 MIDI Outs and 8 Pedal Outs.
Great video Mike. Does the detachable music stand and the platform stand come as standard with the keyboard? Or are these accessories to buy separately?
Hey, thanks for watching. They come as standard :)
Wrong location for the faders… the rest, just perfect
I researched and tried for myself all of the top-end keyboard controllers when i was looking for one.
The Keylab 88 is far and away the best on the market. The keyboard action and feel is utterly superb, very responsive and tactile, the dynamics are incredibly sensitive to different playing techniques and the velocity response is customisable to match your needs in the supplied software.
I use the buttons, sliders and knobs to control my synths and the DAW control integretes with Cubase perfectly. Its easy to control the DAW from the Keylab, speeding things up enormously and keepimg the music at your fingertips instead of at your mouse-clicks.
Excellent video of a truly excellent keyboard, thanks!
Thanks Paul! Its a joy :)
What synths do you control with it?
@@vatolegato sorry for the delay, I've only just seen your message.
I use it to control my hardware XV-5080 and D-50 and the Arturia V-Collection, Several Cherry Audio instruments, NI Komplete, Roland Cloud Ultimate, the Korg Classic collection and Spitfire Labs.
The Keylab 88mk2 is excellent for all of them.
Could you imagine Mike lugging around that massive keyboard in his backpack?
I just bought it
I have both the Mk1 and Mk2. I had get the original repaired a couple of times, but have been generally happy with it. But the Mk2 is SUCH an improvement i is definitely my favorite of all time.
Every single thing I've ever bought from Artutia has broken and either was repaired or just junked.
Do the three aux pedal inputs only support switch-style pedals, or can one or more be used as an additional expression pedal input?
It's actually not badly priced!
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Awesome review! I’m deciding between this keyboard and Komplete keyboard s88. I use a lot of native instruments sounds but , I run ProTools. What do you think is a better option? I’ve read that the S 88 is not compatible with ProTools in terms of controls. But I’ve also read that the key quality is better on the S 88.
This is just my opinion, but my S88 (1st Gen), has really weird feeling keys. They're almost a bit too bouncy and artificial feeling. I play somewhere that regularly has a Keylab 88, and I prefer that keybed more than my S88. Actually, the more I play the Keylab, the more I wish I purchased it over my S88. Komplete Kontrol is a Komplete waste. I bought it thinking I was going to use it with Kontakt and the few virtual instruments that actually utilize it, but I rarely do. If I had the Keylab's extra knobs and actual faders, and drum pads, I know I'd use it more for what it was meant to be. To me, the Keylab is just the better product at the end of the day. The 2nd Gen S88 may be way better than my 1st Gen, but I can only speak to what I've used. Best of luck in finding what works for you!
Great video.
I have a question. After 4 minutes mine freeze and I have to turn it off and then on again.
Why is that happening?
Greetings from Switzerland!
HI! I haven't shopped for a keyboard in a really long time, so pardon my lack of experience, BUT how do you connect this model to an Amp/speaker system? I don't see a headphone jack and the CV outputs are waaay more than I need, but the keyboard is stunning.
Hi there, comparing the Lab88 to the NI S88 which one keyboard out of the two have more weight on the keys? Thanks.
I had to check the price even though I already knew it would be in pipedream territory with my budget. I can dream though...
I have the 61 key version :D
Hi Mike, have you done much recording with it? I have the Studiologic SL88 Studio which has the same TP100/LR Keybed. I get problems with midi recording as it records what I call ghost notes which is caused by keybounce. The original note plus a much quieter note almost at the same time. These really cause problems with playback especially in Keyscape as the second note can cause a muted effect. I really like this keyboard but don't want to get the same problem.
Hi John, I havnt done any full in depth sessions yet, but I've probably recorded around 20 piano, drum, bass, and string parts, and not had any problem at all.
I remember having a drum pad once that played badly in that way. It turned out to be the aftertouch being weird with the instrument. Once I filtered out aftertouch it was fine. Worth a try?
COuld you suggest some affordable all purpose desk with placement for the keboard under?
Hello sir, i recently purchased arturia keylab 61 mk2, which cable do i need to connect it with MacBook Pro's thunderbolt 4 port ? A usb type b to type a cable included with arturia.
Morning, compliment for your tutorial. Synthetic but exhaustive, well divided the explanation. Allow me to ask you a few questions. Answer me as the 88 keylab mkii model arrives today. 1) can I use it simultaneously with analoglab "V" by m-audio sound card on mac 27" and with power supply to connect it to the network, using midi out to in expander viscount organ legend? 2) I have a lot of equipment to control, would it be better to buy a device with 2 midi in and 4/5 out midi? 3) I have this configuration: imac retina, 192/6, m-audio card, a korg 4x 76 keys, m-audio oxigen 49, expander ketron sd2, (enough audio outputs with mixer), the 88 mkii coming today . I know the midi falls out, in, thru. But I have doubts as to be able to drive everything with the arturia as master, the korg 4x could be a second master, the m-audio oxygen 49 controller with or expander or plugin hammond software bx3. I am sure of an urgent technical and professional suggestion and the possible configurations.
Regard. Modesto
I was about to stop watching but then I saw that beautiful vox amp 🤪o and nice keyboard!
Haha - I love my little Vox sooo much. Goes with my Gretsch and Strat like a dream.
Thats a Nice Furniture Desk. Who makes it? Now that I know the Arturia will fit.
CV interface is a great addition, but what’s with the mini jacks?
I’ve a mk1. It’s great but is the 2 better and in what ways?
This is one of the moments I feel a bit sad for my preference of mobility. IF I'd had the space in my room, I'd certainly consider this device but for now, I gotta stick to stuff that's easy to transport to gigs.
can you use the DC connector to provide power to the keyboard so that way it doesn't drain your computer's battery?
Sir I have Arturia 49 essential and not able to map any transport controls and buttons with Cubase. Can you pls advice the process.. and what needs to be selected as MIdi control device
Correct me if I'm wrong...I use a StudioLogic SL88 controller and that allows me 4 separate keyboard zones. The Arturia seems to have only just a single keyboard split. If you go 88 keys, 4 controllable zones should be the norm.
Hi Mike
How well does it integrate with Cakewalk?
Najs
I returned mine. The keys are so heavy to get full sound. My M Audio 88 Pro arrives tomorrow and can’t wait!
...I found the Arturia keybed akin to playing through a heavy wool blanket...how has the M Audio turned out?
is the 12v charer sold with it? what do u do when you loose plastic cards? Can we reorder them?
The greatest weakness of this board is the FATAR action. FATAR actions are terribly unreliable and start wearing down quickly if you play hard or gig with them. I can't tell you how many of these actions I've had come in my shop because the customer complained of noisy, clicky, and broken keys. It's a shame, because Arturia boards are wonderful.
Hi Tod, just wondering -since you seem to be a bit of a pro - what do you make of Studiologic's Numa Nero? I believe this has Fatar TP/400 wood keys. I have the chance to buy one at an ok price (around 270 euros), and I'm hesitating between this and the above Arturia. I know there is a design fault on that Sudiologic, with the modwheel and connections on the side. But I do hear it plays well, when it plays! Also, I don't really need all those faders and knobs on the Arturia. I prefer to have a great keybed and to use my own dedicated faders etc.
Anyway, what do you think? Should I go for it? Penny for your thoughts.
@@nads5907 Honestly, I'm not familiar with the Nero because I've never played or worked on one. That said, I would be sure you have time to play it for awhile before you buy one because FATAR actions can be one of those things that people either love or hate. In my experience, they feel great when you play them right off, but once you start really digging into them for several hours, they become fatiguing and somewhat annoying. But like I said, that is subjective. I am somewhat biased because I loathe FATAR actions, especially when it comes to long-term durability, but some people swear by them and love them.
@@todbaldwin4664 Thanks so much for you reply, much appreciated.
I don't think you're alone in your loathing of fatar keys. The Studiologics which use them really seem to divide opinion. People either love them or hate them, with very little in between.
Outside of fatar keys, what are the good alternatives? I've heard good things about Kawai. I'm guessing Kawai makes its own keys?
What is your take on M-Audio's Hammer 88? Seems to be very popular. Any experience with that one? And if so, is it any good?
Not sure if M-Audio uses fatar keys. They might do, but for some reason, that particular model seems to escape most people's ire.
What's wonderful about them if the keybed is bad? Just another generic MIDI controller with a sub-par keybed wrapped up in a nice box.
I own a controller Studiologic Sl73 with the same Fatar ation. I agree with you : it's really horrible.
Aftertouch ? And how many instruments can we play in layers in same time ? Thanks
Do you have a video hot set up the mapping in Studio One?
I just bought the keylab 49 essential and I am having a really hard time getting it to work with cakewalk. I can use it with Audiolab software, but I get no sound in cakewalk. Any advice?
While back, picked up Arturia KeyLab 88 original with V collection 6 and Analog Labs, software has been updated. Fantastic Fatar keybed as well. Picked it up for 599 usd with software, giving me a great upgrade path with a quality controller. This newer KeyLab 88 MKII seems to have more IN/OUT like the CV's with some changes to location of pads and sliders. May I ask, is there other aspects I will miss. Next is V collection 8, but have OB-Xa and V 7 already. Thanks for video
You still have an awesome keyboard. I think the differences are as you say. I wouldn't see a need to upgrade.
@@CreativeSauce Thanks for response. All the best, be safe Mike.
Guess we had a president who did not wish to tackle this so we are worse in the world. Sad
How are you friend, I read that you have the Mk2, I have a Roland fantom x8 synthesizer, I do not use the sounds of it because nowadays the software and virtual instruments are very advanced in sound quality, my question is, the Mk2 are resistant to the keys? because they told me that they are plastic, and my fantom x8 the keys are made of another real piano material, the goal is to buy the Mk2, but I must be sure if it is really robust and resistant both the keys and the quality of the materials? I would appreciate your opinion please friend
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What is the height of the pull-out drawer?
It's very interesting to see you have made this video Mike. I have just bought the Keylab Essentials 61 and my experience differs greatly from yours. The first thing to mention is that it doesn't hook up with Cakewalk by Bandlab. I have been in touch with support at CW by BL and they told me (two days ago) that they were going to get their engineers to look into it, but so far I have heard nothing. Also, a lot of the included software from Arturia seems to be demo versions, all be it they are very good, but if you want the full versions you need to pay for them. I have to say I have found the down load and install instructions quite confusing, but maybe that is just me. I have spoken to my supplier and they are willing to take it back which to honest could well be what I shall do. At the moment I am not doing much more with this keyboard than I am able to do with my old Yamaha W7 that I bought in '94. It's a shame, because the reason I bought it is for all the reasons you pointed out in your video, i.e. having a remote control over my DAW. Hey ho! these things are sent to try us I guess!
Hi Mike, when you hook this up as a Mackie in Cakewalk, disable handshake. That got it working for me. You will get most of the transport controls with that and a few other things.
There is also an alternative Mackie driver available, which supposedly works even better. I have a link, but on my phone right now. I'll try to remember to post it here. In case I forget, email me @ creative.sauce.tube@gmail.com .
Not sure about the 61 essential, but certainly for this one the software is full versions.
The Essentials Key Lab is not the same as the upgraded new version - KeyLab II and it does say when you purchase them brand new what software type you are purchasing ie demo/lite version or full which is reflective in the price of what the bundled software is. Just out of interest have did you use CW before BL bought them out or later?
@@leetronix I have been using Cakewalk for about ten years, so long before Bandlab took them over.
@@MrOnemoreknight0 Ah I see, I just wondered if you were reasonably new to CW. It might be worth looking at the MKII as an alternative and also ask Arturia about supporting CW themselves as the manufacture they may have another work around solution. Hope you get it sorted either way.
Hi Mike
I am considering the Mkii 88 controller by Arturia. I would like to know if this unit can be used on stage as a stand-alone piano, with out the nned of a computer?
Hi Daniel. It in itself has no on-board sounds. So it either needs to be used with a computer, or another midi device that has sound.
Does anyone have any info on when the Mk3 version of the KeyLab (non-essential) is coming out? And I hope it will have grippier faders and knobs than the Essential Mk3.
I think I would have gone for the Doepfer PK88-88 or LMK4 if I was paying that much for a weighted 88 key controller to be honest. You just know those things are going to last for years.
Arturia keyboard is a great idea. Well built as regarding pads and controllers. However the first one I bought had velocity issues - certain keys had fixed velocity values of 127. That was exchanged for a new one. Whilst the new one didnt have fixed velocity issues I could never play piano sounds correctly. The velocity outputs where unreliable, sometimes soft sometimes loud as if the the velocity curves changed each time one switched the keyboard on. So I took it back and got a refund. Instead I bought the Native Instruments Komplete Kontrol S88 MK2. I lost the functions of the Arturia but I got instead a playable keyboard
Wow - sorry to hear you had them issues David! Haven't come across that on mine, but glad you got up and running again.
Yeah mine arrived with a bunch of small faults: dodgy clicking keys, inconsistent keys etc.
wonderfull video.
Thank you :)
@@CreativeSauce you're welcome! fun fact! i just ordered a Zeor desk that fits this keyboard! it will not fit the NI s88 mk2, i made the decision with your help among other reviews too. I already own the NI s49 mk2 keyboard, and its damn fine, too short ofc. But i dont think Native Instruments is my style, the wood and white finish has gotten me real exited about arturia, i was hesitant because of the blue buttons. But it won't matter much i believe, or else ill paint them in a million colors haha 😂
and btw! Top steller camera work and audio. I just wanna note that more people should produce that kind of quality.
Oh, do you mean the blue coloured pads? They are backlit and can be changed with the software. I'm still loving this keyboard!!
Thank you :)
Where do you put audio interface?
Hello, merci beaucoup pour vos supers vidéos. Je suis très intéressé par le Keylab : les touches du clavier sont elles plus dure pour les notes graves et plus légères pour les touches aiguës comme sur un piano acoustique? Merci beaucoup.