I would never second guess my beliefs in the Steelers culture, however leadership AKA coaching staff isn't providing positive results in the Steelers culture. Let's change the guard.
Let's be realistic here... first off, we just played 3 "superbowl teams" in 11 days. We know we arnt a sb team. You lied yourself into thinking we were if you ever thought so. Our o line and d secondary dont even come close to deserving a sb game. The rest of the team is pretty solid with a few inconsistent elements like passing. gp being our only used guy and russ slump / inconsistency. Albeit when russ is "cooking" I actually think our offense could run in the sb if yhe o line doesn't have a usual horrendous pass blocking day. It's not tomlin. It's the team. He doesn't have the team. Bill wouldn't have the team. Or whatever tomlin replacement you dream of also wouldn't have the team in this scenario. We are a 1st second round out team based solely on matchup. What's the big deal? You want to have a more balanced team? Okay say goodbye to minkah, watt, highsmith, Hayward... I'd rather have them though. And I'd definitely rather have tomlin instead of x replacement (who can not be better than him).
The defense was doomed the moment they let Brian Flores move on to Minnesota and the Steelers kept Teryl Austin. Have you actually seen Teryl Austin’s play sheet, you can see on any game when they zoom in on him, it’s the size of a notecard…literally. This man only knows to play zone and let Joey Porter cover man to man. And if the front 4 or 5 don’t get pressure the secondary is exposed. It’s Mike Tomlins ego that needs to be checked, his decisions have single handedly cost this franchise many wins. He’s a losing coach in the playoffs. It’s time for a change. It’s been time for a change for a few years now
I THINK TOMLIN GAVE TERYL AUSTIN THE JOB BEFORE BRAIN FLORES JOINED THE STEELERS. AUSTIN IS ONE OF THEIR "IN HOUSE"HIRE BECAUSE ART IS CHEAP HE DOESN'T WANT TO PAY COORDINATORS OUTSIDE THE ORGANIZATION. THIS DEFENSE IS LEAKING TOMLIN TO SAVE THIS TEAM NEEDS TO TAKE THE DEFENSIVE PLAY CALLING AWAY FROM AUSTIN IT'S TOO BASIC AND VANILLA AND VERY PREDICTABLE.
And Rooney will keep on paying him because he doesn't have the stones to fire him. They'll fire another coach in the off season again except fire the common denominator = Tomlin. He talks with his phrases but that doesn't win games. Mediocrity = The Standard is the Standard.
I think Broderick Jones is the Steelers official greeter to the Steelers backfield. He showed everyone that he was supposed to be blocking a safe quick path to the quarterback making sure that they were untouched and could do their job easily
Idk how many times they gotta get down by 2 scores before they get warren involved. He needs to be the starter. He clearly wasnt healthy to start the year but he is now and clearly better. Also, why do they feel the need to give Patterson touches like it's an obligation. Give the best players the ball
I'm sorry but allowing 389 total yards after allowing 400+ yards the previous 2 games for the highest paid defense in the league with All Pros everywhere is a JOKE. It falls on the incompetent coaches.
THEY NEED TO GET CAMERON SUTTON AND JAMES PIERRE OFF THE FIELD, I KNOW JOEY PORTER IS HURT BUT THEY CAN'T COVER ANYONE. THE FRONT 4 IS NOT EVEN GETTING PRESSURE ON THE QUARTERBACKS ANYMORE BECAUSE QUARTERBACKS ARE GETTING THE BALL OUT FAST NEUTRALIZES THE PASSED RUSH WHICH EXPOSES THEIR SECONDARY. THE ZONE DEFENSE IS SO BAD TOO EVEN MINKAH FITZPATRICK IS PLAYING BAD I HAVE FEELING THEY TALKING ABOUT HIM. HE SEEMS LIKE HE'S PLAYING TOO MUCH HERO BALL. TERYL AUSTIN NEEDS TO BE MORE CREATIVE, BLITZ MORE DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
I love Mike T as a person and have been a fan of his since I was a kid. But as I've gotten older, this dude has become the ultimate hypocrite and coward. "We don't live in our fears", yet we give up in the fourth quarter down 2 scores. Also, I hate when people put majority blame on Russ. This dude has been rock solid for the most part given the lackluster receiving core including van Jefferson, scotty miller, and the corpse of mike Williams. Not to mention an absolute joke of a tackle tandem. Its the same song and dance year after year and if coach t couldn't win with the killer b's, he never will. The moment it became clear that Tomlin needs to go is the drive that Kc ran the same play 8 times and marched down the field with ease and Tomlin and Austin insisted on staying in the sorry zone defense that has been getting dog walked for the last month. I hate to say it but if Tomlin cant get out of his own way, he needs to go elsewhere....
I hate to say I agree, but I agree with everything that said. Why did it take so long for our plays to develop? They’ve got to call plays that make up for the lack of support that 3 is getting from his O line. Very hard to watch.
Nah let's get real. Tomlin is better than you think and definitely better than anyone available to replace him. So that's end of discussion with him. TA has been disappointing but man are you supposed to nail every coaching decision? We lost our good one to another team. Did you just expect to get better while losing him? Really? Smith is objectively better than what we've had even though I pull a clump of hair out everytime a scheme for a 3rd string is done or a 1st down run eith najee for 1 yd. It still got better. If your argument is "it sucks we couldn't have gotten even better" I'd day yes obviously. Now shush😂
Chiefs lost their TJ watt and got 5 sacks. If we lose anyone we can barely function as a football team. That’s 3 games in a row where they packed up early. Never seen that in a Steelers team.
The worst thing after these losses is the company line of “we all need to do better”. Diffusion of responsibility is no responsibility, players and coaches need to be called out for specific failures.
Najee said the same thing (no discipline) last year about some of the players on the team. I've long suspected that some of the culture Tomlin is allowing to fester on this team is not good. We've been underachieving for over a decade. Something needs to be done about it.
You just said it. Last year. They did this last year. I also remember the run defense getting DEMOLISHED many games and vets were suggesting the same things. Late season collapses and finger pointing from this entire team. All talk, no change.
Tomlin says changes are coming, not going to keep doing the same thing….Tomlin is 3-8 in the playoffs since 2011. This year is exactly why he has not been coach of the year ever. If Tomlin resigns or retires that is the change needed. I don’t think AR III has the constitution to end this ridiculousness. They say they want to win a SB but limp along with a coach with an abysmal playoff record over the last 15 years. Same thing again, Tomlin’s team falls flat on its face.
The only change that's realistic, is to embrace physicality. Expecting a boxer to switch to fighting as a southpaw, is rarely even considered unless perhaps a veteran boxer who has years of experience, with the years of boxing IQ. That's how I view the idea of having very young players try to master the "technique" required to zone scheme block. When Ryan was playing they ditched the zone scheme to make him comfortable, gap scheme is what you learn and know from biddy ball thru the college games. 2 seasons ago remember when they couldn't run the ball at all, had the early bye, ditched the zone scheme and the pads started popping, playing the way that got them to this level. The players have lost faith in the game plan, both sides, these game plans aren't working at all, what's most upsetting to the players probably is, these schemes don't let the players to compete physically, they can't play with the instincts they have always played with, instead they have to think, think about "technique", or think about responsibility of who should do what in a zone defense, instead of just running with a receiver... thinking about what's required, playing southpaw,, doesn't work with this young team. The only change that can be made is to let them play "physically", both sides. I'd rather see db's get 5-7 illegal contact flags than watch the zone just get carved up. I'd rather see the o-line try to play with physicality and determination and attitude, then see them "do their technique properly, or block southpaw". You know why Isaac hasn't looked as good as he did in Philly? He hasn't become efficient in his southpaw blocking. Can't fire players up to think/technique harder, why they always come out flat. Coach needs to put his foot down and return to basic football play and play with physicality and fire
@BenGoodsonModular How many times this year are we going to see Moore and Jones, just stop blocking before the play is over. I'm actually surprised that our QB's have not been knocked out of the game...yet.
The fact Tomlin didn’t understand what you were saying about plays developing is indicative of the whole thing. The fact he admits Kelce is a zone killer yet allowed him to do it is indicative of the whole thing. Tomlin gets outcoached *constantly*. When he faces good coaches like Harbaugh or great coaches like Reid. He is an unserious coach. Fans at home making minimum wage have better clock management and challenge percentage. The fact he didn’t challenge that incomplete pass, or have structures in place to do so, is indicative of the whole thing. He was gifted Hall of Famers and a HOF infrastructure. Now they’re done and we see his ceiling is ‘good’ not ‘great’
Watching Tomlins press conference yesterday was a real head scratcher. Seriously, he’s blaming turnovers ?! Oh there’s so much more, like DK asked, why do the plays take so long to execute ! Why isn’t 77 getting any better. Why is Pickens still quitting on plays. The list goes on
I think what's worse DK; is that these Steelers didn't just fool us, they fooled themselves. They actually thought they were a good team and everyone got complacent including the HC and QB. This team is terrible.
Hey DK I’m not sure how many noticed it yesterday but I gotta say I’m impressed with Pickens’ composure yesterday. Really seemed that the chiefs DBs were trying to get under his skin to draw penalties but ultimately shot themselves in the foot a couple of times with unsportsmanlike penalties
Time to start calling Russ out. Poor ball security. Turnover prone and losing momentum. Hold the ball way too long. Takes untimely sacks. You can go on forever. Problem is people give Russ the same excuses they wouldn’t give Justin and he’s been in the league 9 years less. Justin is the better qb as he could’ve been 6-0 if it weren’t for that botched snap and the defense selling his clutch TD drive to go ahead. That bengals game had everyone jaded about what Russ actually is.
Let’s sign Wilson for 10+ years… what a performance… good thing we took Fields out of there… much better for Wilson to throw picks and get sacked every other play… what an elite QB
Tomlin will NEVER take accountability. He's just not the guy for the job to take the team any further beyond what he has. The "exposure" starts with him. Coaches know the guy can't compete with them. Move on!!!
Rock bottom actually comes in the next game to the Bengals. The Steelers have expired for the season. Smith refuses to use his best players consistently and the Defensive Coordination operates at a high school level with a zone defense Every top qb can pick apart at will and middling qbs can use as a learning experience. After the Bengals trash them on Jan 5 and they are put out of their misery by Whatever Team they play, their first order of business should be to find A REAL DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR…….and then tell Arthur Smith either use the Best Performers ……..or go back to Atlanta…..( I now better understand the fan’s frustrations with Tomlin as he oversees the whole debacle hiding behind a plethora of alleged ‘ clever sayings’)……Enough is Enough already…… Wait Till Next Year…..
It was this time last year that we were speculating that Tomlin might step away because we lost 3 straight in December. It's the same song and dance every year and I'm honestly sick of it. It's time for Art 2 to actually do something for once and make some serious changes this off-season.
It’s not too late in the process to think about a change at QB. Fields has played 6 games, beat 3 playoff teams, protected the ball, and avoids sacks better than Wilson with a weak offensive line. If Russ struggles in the first half against Cincy, they should go with Justin.
Russell Wilson, not moving up in the pocket and hesitating at times Patrick Queen had a couple plays where he was out of coverage Cam Sutton didn’t know what he was doing out there and we did miss our young guns at corners, but the overall play and not hustling as a team as one is gonna kill us every time
As an admitted Tomlin apologist, I gotta admit that it’s the coaching and much less on the players. The team and their moments of unpreparedness, and subpar defensive and offensive game plans, from such a long tenured coach are finally making me think a change is needed. The defensive scheme is so vanilla and easy to pick apart. With so many high end players on the D, I don’t know how that’s even possible. I 100% agree that the offensive plays take too long to develop. It’s unfathomable just how often the WRs are not open. Most of the successful passing plays seem to be off of broken plays, not the actual play. Hoping for the best but it may be time for a major shakeup.
You don’t get blown out 3 weeks in a row without a lack of “want to” As a fan, I’m only committing 7 more hours to this team for the remainder of the year.
Lol the Carolina Panthers put up more of a fight against the Chiefs than the Steelers... at Home. How's everybody enjoying Tomlin Purgatory? Year in and year out.
If you go back at least 3 weeks ago, and listen to what Tomlin and the players were saying and what they said after this game, it's all been the same: We have to look at the film, take a look at ourselves, play better, know where we're supposed to be, finish the play, execute better...and yet, nothing changed. DK, can this even get fixed, when they are saying what needs to be done, but still after all these games, nothing has changed, and really, things got much worse!! DK, what can be done to turn this team around?? It's beyond frustrating! They need help, and their headcoach doesn't seem to have an answer!!!
DK, the team imploded from inside... We have a DC that should be a secondary specialist and a difuncional secondary... A 4 year OL Coach that cannot develod first rounds picks... MT has a lot to explain! There are finger print of his management all over this mess.
Dk, after three losses to good teams, is it now clear this team isn’t going to make a deep run in the playoffs? Russ is better than Justin today… but why should Pittsburgh take the “win now” mentality and sign Russ and cut Justin? Russ has at best 3 years. Justin can easily play for another decade. I just fear three more years of going 10-7 and losing another wild card game and then beginning the qb search all over again. Justin still needs development but I think he can get better over time in a good system. He showed massive improvement over his time in Chicago.
Great show I like all your observations that's always. I think the blame for the lost starts from the top. This team does have talent out there the fact that they can't get it done we have to look at the coaching staff. Period!. On the Williams catch, The rule has always been 2 feet in bounce that means one left foot and 1 right. It's not complicated. 1 left 1 right.
Tomlin has got to go. I don’t care if he wins a SB with a new team. His teams have e been mediocre for the past 10 years. He only won a SB because of the team Bill Cowher left him.
I think Tomlin looks around and sees what playoff team might be winnable. He thinks Texans give him a chance to win. Then he can say he won a playoff game. Don't bet on it coach
DK I've been a fan to long to just be a fair weather fan so to all those talking crazy about my Steelers just keep that same energy when we win the playoffs
@@victorsimmons5776You must have been living under a rock the last 7 years. Just because we call out the bs doesn’t make us “fair weather fans” some people (like you) are clearly fine with being a mediocre team, that’s fine but don’t try to make it seem like the rest of us are crazy 😂🤡
@Zyreath based off our matchup. If we play a superbowl team we won't win. If we play an even / slightly worse team we should win. We never were supposed to be in the superbowl. We dont have the TEAM for it. And say what you want about the coaches. But even if they were all replaced tomorrow it'd be a worse result with the SAME team that is still not good enough.
Thank you DK. Spot on DK. Taking way to long to throw a pass. Poor pass defense and offense. After the last three games I have some doubts, I did before, but not like this. Always glad you are here DK spot on.
Todd Haley should still be our OC Flores should be our DC Cam Sutton shouldn’t be on the team, never been good in coverage. He’s always out of position. The Steelers are never mentally strong, we always have a stretch where we have to be motivated by having our backs to the wall. I appreciate Mike Tomlin, he’s never out coached anyone. Any time we play a competent coaching staff, they run circles around us. I will never say NFL players aren’t tough, but I will say some are tougher than others. People bully us upfront on both sides, we are not as talented as our payroll and our coaching staff is subpar. 9-8 the new standard is the standard. See y’all in April pick #22 😂 #steelernation4life
I called it at the beginning of the season, but yinz called me a "hater." I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!! JF is a turnover machine, and RW is no better than washed up pocket lint... and Tomlin is a fraud. Aurther (Farther) is a has been. End of story.
Good show DK. The defense is going to catch all the heat for this one, but I’m singing a different tune. Our offense isn’t good enough for a shoot out. That’s why Tomlin said that comment about the turnovers. We need the ball on a short field or an extra possession. The personnel choice at times seems like a hope and prayer situation. Particularly giving the ball to Coradelle Patterson on a 3rd and 4. Our only explosive runner is Jaylen Warren. Dan Moore missed a block that would’ve put Najee 1 on 1 with a player that he probably would’ve hurdled his way into the end zone. Of course that’s a bit of a reach, the point is Dan Moore missed the block. J1Q, do you think it would be beneficial for Tomlin to hire someone who can reduce turnovers from our skill players. Najee, Pat, and GP all have turned the ball over and critical game moments. Grady Brown, I believe is a turnover specialist for the defensive side of the ball. Do you think he should have someone doing the same for the offensive side of the ball? The three losses stink. I think offensively we’re missing a dynamic playmaker. It doesn’t necessarily have to be wide receiver. I think it’s also time to consider our running back situation. I love Najee, but we lack explosive/field flipping player or players. I also didn’t like Russell Wilson being sacked that many times some of that was on him and some is on the offensive play calling because there were times where all of the players were covered so there wasn’t much we could do. Last thought/comment. I asked this as a J1Q, when the schedule first came out what kind of product do we think is gonna happen when players have to play three games in 11 days. Other teams have to do it too is a bunch of malarkey. It’s just a horrible product and a way for teams to fail. Proper preparation prevents poor performance. You have to wonder how much practice time is really afforded. Not time for fundamentals drills. I’m glad that stretch is over.
Highsmith. Cam. Benton. Elandon Roberts. Peyton Wilson. Herbig. Elliot. Watt (when hes healthy). Those are the names on defense that I feel confident in.
I don’t know DK anymore the same of the same stuff of last year season so true JV HS football to say the least thank you for the Christmas Coverage I am so disappointed being a steeler Fan since the Late 80’s we need a whole new team I am sorry it starts with the Coaches down !
I am losing my love for the game. I see no excuse for the way Pittsburgh was outcoached in the 2nd half of the last 3 games. At halftime of each game they were still in it and they used be a much better 2nd half team
for a guy who's philosophy is Winning is our business, he sure doesn't do a whole lot of it. Maybe its time for a going out of business sale. Tomlin is too arrogant to see his flaws, a losing season or two would do wonders for his inflated ego.
Life-long Steelers fan for 50 years. I was at the game and can't remember a more uninspired game from the team and the fans. There was absolutely nothing to get excited about in this game. Sad
The Steelers just played 3 games in 11 days and came unglued just like they did in 2020. They also played 3 of the best teams in the NFL during that time. It's time to rest, regroup and beat the Bungles in 10 days time and get ready for the playoffs.
I'm getting tired of this. It all started during that 2020 season when we completely collapsed in December. And it's just been more of the same year in and year out. I'm just over it.
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My enthusiasm for this team has left the building. This isn't the standard, period
This actually is the standard, Tomlins standard
I would never second guess my beliefs in the Steelers culture, however leadership AKA coaching staff isn't providing positive results in the Steelers culture. Let's change the guard.
The standard is the substandard now, comma end of sentence.
Unfortunately ownership is mediocre too. This isn't what it used to be. I've grown pretty apathetic about the Steelers the past couple seasons now.
This has been going on for the last decade. It is the standard.
He (Tomlin) keeps referring to JV. I'm glad he admits that he's a JV coach.
Defense got worse when Sutton returned and replaced Bishop.
In the last few games they target Bishop and Pierre.
You definitely don’t know ball because bishop is definitely the weak link on Pittsburgs defense it’s not even a debate 😂
The same Sutton that beat up his girlfriend and then Mike Tomlin couldn’t wait to pick back up
@ bro that has absolutely nothing to do with how the defense is playing. ur a weird ass guy 🤓🤣
Sutton and Bishop have been liabilities tbh
Limp into the playoffs and one and done. The standard is the standard.
Damn
Let's be realistic here... first off, we just played 3 "superbowl teams" in 11 days. We know we arnt a sb team. You lied yourself into thinking we were if you ever thought so. Our o line and d secondary dont even come close to deserving a sb game. The rest of the team is pretty solid with a few inconsistent elements like passing. gp being our only used guy and russ slump / inconsistency. Albeit when russ is "cooking" I actually think our offense could run in the sb if yhe o line doesn't have a usual horrendous pass blocking day.
It's not tomlin. It's the team. He doesn't have the team. Bill wouldn't have the team. Or whatever tomlin replacement you dream of also wouldn't have the team in this scenario. We are a 1st second round out team based solely on matchup. What's the big deal? You want to have a more balanced team? Okay say goodbye to minkah, watt, highsmith, Hayward... I'd rather have them though. And I'd definitely rather have tomlin instead of x replacement (who can not be better than him).
Steelers actually will beat the Texans!!…
Idk about limp because they clinched a playoff spot weeks ago.
It’s the Sub-standard, is the standard.
The defense was doomed the moment they let Brian Flores move on to Minnesota and the Steelers kept Teryl Austin. Have you actually seen Teryl Austin’s play sheet, you can see on any game when they zoom in on him, it’s the size of a notecard…literally. This man only knows to play zone and let Joey Porter cover man to man. And if the front 4 or 5 don’t get pressure the secondary is exposed. It’s Mike Tomlins ego that needs to be checked, his decisions have single handedly cost this franchise many wins. He’s a losing coach in the playoffs. It’s time for a change. It’s been time for a change for a few years now
I THINK TOMLIN GAVE TERYL AUSTIN THE JOB BEFORE BRAIN FLORES JOINED THE STEELERS. AUSTIN IS ONE OF THEIR "IN HOUSE"HIRE BECAUSE ART IS CHEAP HE DOESN'T WANT TO PAY COORDINATORS OUTSIDE THE ORGANIZATION. THIS DEFENSE IS LEAKING TOMLIN TO SAVE THIS TEAM NEEDS TO TAKE THE DEFENSIVE PLAY CALLING AWAY FROM AUSTIN IT'S TOO BASIC AND VANILLA AND VERY PREDICTABLE.
He was awful coming into Pittsburgh same as matt Canada, two failures on both sides of the ball
Hell they don't even know were to line up.
Austin is not the DC.
@@yourneighbor6957 it boggles my mind that they let a great defensive coordinator like Brian Flores leave and keep Austin.
Here we are in the same place we always are every year.
Tomlin doesn’t need to make changes, the ROONEYS need to make changes.
Winner! This is exactly what needs to happen! But I fear AR2 is Bob Nutting lite. DMR would've never let any of this bullshit fly.
@@mrhammerzz1643DMR was the best executive/owner in the NFL during his lifetime.
Don’t know if the Team has hit Rock Bottom but Damn sure a high percentage of the Fans have with this team.
“This is why I’m well compensated” - Mike Tomlin
And Rooney will keep on paying him because he doesn't have the stones to fire him. They'll fire another coach in the off season again except fire the common denominator = Tomlin. He talks with his phrases but that doesn't win games. Mediocrity = The Standard is the Standard.
Travis is a zone killer yet we sit in zone the whole game 😂😂 hilarious
I think Broderick Jones is the Steelers official greeter to the Steelers backfield. He showed everyone that he was supposed to be blocking a safe quick path to the quarterback making sure that they were untouched and could do their job easily
He was dominated by a backup
Idk how many times they gotta get down by 2 scores before they get warren involved. He needs to be the starter. He clearly wasnt healthy to start the year but he is now and clearly better. Also, why do they feel the need to give Patterson touches like it's an obligation. Give the best players the ball
4 teams played 3 games in 11 days. The Steelers are the only team out of the 4 that went winless
Let that sink in!
All facts
Not true Texans played Chiefs Saturday
@@soulsaxdbYou’re wrong…Texans beat Miami on 12/15. The Steelers only team to lose all 3 games in 11 days
@ryanjamesc9996 Chiefs beat Texans Saturday December 21 2024 27-19 I watched the game and watched my Steelers lose to the rat birds
I'm sorry but allowing 389 total yards after allowing 400+ yards the previous 2 games for the highest paid defense in the league with All Pros everywhere is a JOKE. It falls on the incompetent coaches.
I don’t know why they are trying to run some exotic defense to try to fool the qb. When our own players don’t even know where to be lol
@@ronjarrah9516 1-2 Incompetent players.
We spend the most by a long shot too. We spend 51% of our cap and the next team (Green Bay) spends 43%.
THEY NEED TO GET CAMERON SUTTON AND JAMES PIERRE OFF THE FIELD, I KNOW JOEY PORTER IS HURT BUT THEY CAN'T COVER ANYONE. THE FRONT 4 IS NOT EVEN GETTING PRESSURE ON THE QUARTERBACKS ANYMORE BECAUSE QUARTERBACKS ARE GETTING THE BALL OUT FAST NEUTRALIZES THE PASSED RUSH WHICH EXPOSES THEIR SECONDARY. THE ZONE DEFENSE IS SO BAD TOO EVEN MINKAH FITZPATRICK IS PLAYING BAD I HAVE FEELING THEY TALKING ABOUT HIM. HE SEEMS LIKE HE'S PLAYING TOO MUCH HERO BALL. TERYL AUSTIN NEEDS TO BE MORE CREATIVE, BLITZ MORE DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
When you start 3 games in 10 days with 80+ snaps because your qb can’t stay on the field .. you get a product like what we have seen the last 2 weeks
I love Mike T as a person and have been a fan of his since I was a kid. But as I've gotten older, this dude has become the ultimate hypocrite and coward. "We don't live in our fears", yet we give up in the fourth quarter down 2 scores. Also, I hate when people put majority blame on Russ. This dude has been rock solid for the most part given the lackluster receiving core including van Jefferson, scotty miller, and the corpse of mike Williams. Not to mention an absolute joke of a tackle tandem. Its the same song and dance year after year and if coach t couldn't win with the killer b's, he never will. The moment it became clear that Tomlin needs to go is the drive that Kc ran the same play 8 times and marched down the field with ease and Tomlin and Austin insisted on staying in the sorry zone defense that has been getting dog walked for the last month. I hate to say it but if Tomlin cant get out of his own way, he needs to go elsewhere....
I hate to say I agree, but I agree with everything that said. Why did it take so long for our plays to develop? They’ve got to call plays that make up for the lack of support that 3 is getting from his O line. Very hard to watch.
The biggest Change we need is better quality
couching. The Steelers have for years lived on left overs in the couching circuit.
They need new couches? Maybe a LazyBoy?
hahaha
Nah let's get real. Tomlin is better than you think and definitely better than anyone available to replace him. So that's end of discussion with him. TA has been disappointing but man are you supposed to nail every coaching decision? We lost our good one to another team. Did you just expect to get better while losing him? Really? Smith is objectively better than what we've had even though I pull a clump of hair out everytime a scheme for a 3rd string is done or a 1st down run eith najee for 1 yd. It still got better. If your argument is "it sucks we couldn't have gotten even better" I'd day yes obviously. Now shush😂
Can Sutton is the one everyone is frustrated with. I’m only guessing.
THEY NEED TO GET HIM AND JAMES PIERRE OFF THE FIELD I KNOW JOEY PORTER JR IS HURT BUT THESE 2 ARE KILLING THE DEFENSE
Sutton is way better than Bennie right now
I think it might be Jackson too dude gets hurt every game but then returns to the next
And replace them with who? Who else did we have?
For sure but is every corner we have honestly guys are open or they get penalized
Tomlins ego won't allow this team to be fixed.
Were the same we've been for 10 years. Why is anyone shocked?
Harbaugh is better.
Chiefs lost their TJ watt and got 5 sacks. If we lose anyone we can barely function as a football team.
That’s 3 games in a row where they packed up early. Never seen that in a Steelers team.
The worst thing after these losses is the company line of “we all need to do better”. Diffusion of responsibility is no responsibility, players and coaches need to be called out for specific failures.
Najee said the same thing (no discipline) last year about some of the players on the team. I've long suspected that some of the culture Tomlin is allowing to fester on this team is not good. We've been underachieving for over a decade. Something needs to be done about it.
We need to fire tomlin
You just said it. Last year. They did this last year. I also remember the run defense getting DEMOLISHED many games and vets were suggesting the same things. Late season collapses and finger pointing from this entire team. All talk, no change.
Tomlin says changes are coming, not going to keep doing the same thing….Tomlin is 3-8 in the playoffs since 2011. This year is exactly why he has not been coach of the year ever. If Tomlin resigns or retires that is the change needed. I don’t think AR III has the constitution to end this ridiculousness. They say they want to win a SB but limp along with a coach with an abysmal playoff record over the last 15 years. Same thing again, Tomlin’s team falls flat on its face.
The only change that's realistic, is to embrace physicality. Expecting a boxer to switch to fighting as a southpaw, is rarely even considered unless perhaps a veteran boxer who has years of experience, with the years of boxing IQ. That's how I view the idea of having very young players try to master the "technique" required to zone scheme block. When Ryan was playing they ditched the zone scheme to make him comfortable, gap scheme is what you learn and know from biddy ball thru the college games. 2 seasons ago remember when they couldn't run the ball at all, had the early bye, ditched the zone scheme and the pads started popping, playing the way that got them to this level. The players have lost faith in the game plan, both sides, these game plans aren't working at all, what's most upsetting to the players probably is, these schemes don't let the players to compete physically, they can't play with the instincts they have always played with, instead they have to think, think about "technique", or think about responsibility of who should do what in a zone defense, instead of just running with a receiver... thinking about what's required, playing southpaw,, doesn't work with this young team. The only change that can be made is to let them play "physically", both sides. I'd rather see db's get 5-7 illegal contact flags than watch the zone just get carved up. I'd rather see the o-line try to play with physicality and determination and attitude, then see them "do their technique properly, or block southpaw". You know why Isaac hasn't looked as good as he did in Philly? He hasn't become efficient in his southpaw blocking. Can't fire players up to think/technique harder, why they always come out flat. Coach needs to put his foot down and return to basic football play and play with physicality and fire
"The players have lost faith in the game plan..."
You are exactly right.
Yup. We lost badly in all three phases of the game. To even lose the edge rush battle was incredible to me.
Mahomes was getting the ball out quick, our offense don’t have quick routes
@MarvyG23 Their OLB repeatedly beat Dan Moore and Broderick Jones. How many sacks or pressures did we get?
@@BenGoodsonModular chiefs played better than us on both sides of the ball but russ does hold on to the ball more and sometimes that leads to sacks
Exactly , chiefs tackles are bad. No way we should have lost the outside linebacker battle.
@BenGoodsonModular How many times this year are we going to see Moore and Jones, just stop blocking before the play is over. I'm actually surprised that our QB's have not been knocked out of the game...yet.
Wow. You're so on point with your commentary DK!
The fact Tomlin didn’t understand what you were saying about plays developing is indicative of the whole thing. The fact he admits Kelce is a zone killer yet allowed him to do it is indicative of the whole thing.
Tomlin gets outcoached *constantly*. When he faces good coaches like Harbaugh or great coaches like Reid. He is an unserious coach. Fans at home making minimum wage have better clock management and challenge percentage.
The fact he didn’t challenge that incomplete pass, or have structures in place to do so, is indicative of the whole thing.
He was gifted Hall of Famers and a HOF infrastructure. Now they’re done and we see his ceiling is ‘good’ not ‘great’
The Chiefs were without their best defensive player and still made our Oline look like JV.
All game
That's because our o line is not good. End of story.
Watching Tomlins press conference yesterday was a real head scratcher. Seriously, he’s blaming turnovers ?! Oh there’s so much more, like DK asked, why do the plays take so long to execute !
Why isn’t 77 getting any better. Why is Pickens still quitting on plays. The list goes on
It's Sutton
Who thought he was a good idea
I agree. And apparently Tomlin thought it was a good idea.
@@bighilltomwhy wouldn't you think he was a good idea?? We were struggling terribly in that position already and he's already familiar eith the team.
@ i did think he was good and getting better here but he didnt look great in detroit
Spot on DK, spot on!!!!
LOL, FIRE MATT CANADA
U so late.
Russ is cooked
There is an invisible force perhaps an ego that is digging a hole to nowhere.
I think what's worse DK; is that these Steelers didn't just fool us, they fooled themselves.
They actually thought they were a good team and everyone got complacent including the HC and QB. This team is terrible.
This team is going to get embarrassed in the playoffs but all I’m going to hear is how great of a coach Tomlin is
Better than Harbs.
Ugh. Sorry you guys had to work on Christmas Day ... for that effort. 🎄
Hey DK I’m not sure how many noticed it yesterday but I gotta say I’m impressed with Pickens’ composure yesterday. Really seemed that the chiefs DBs were trying to get under his skin to draw penalties but ultimately shot themselves in the foot a couple of times with unsportsmanlike penalties
Pickens as the reason Russ threw an interception..he gave up on the play at the line of scrimmage
Naw the HOF QB has to see that double/triple coverage @reezee412
Time to start calling Russ out. Poor ball security. Turnover prone and losing momentum. Hold the ball way too long. Takes untimely sacks. You can go on forever. Problem is people give Russ the same excuses they wouldn’t give Justin and he’s been in the league 9 years less. Justin is the better qb as he could’ve been 6-0 if it weren’t for that botched snap and the defense selling his clutch TD drive to go ahead. That bengals game had everyone jaded about what Russ actually is.
CREATIVITY!! On both sides of the ball.
How many times Nate Burleson say 'communication breakdown' yesterday? Waaaaaay to late in the season for that. Inexcusable
Who wears the green dot? probowl, in division, huge off season signing!
@user-f5xt2op9t yeah but seem the blame falling on Sutton
Let’s sign Wilson for 10+ years… what a performance… good thing we took Fields out of there… much better for Wilson to throw picks and get sacked every other play… what an elite QB
Fields isn't the guy either .Mason was and they need to draft one .Get another new OC Hire James Harrison as a coach
We wont win another game this year. Its over.
I been saying it for years Tomlin got to go if Pittsburgh wants to see a change. He's our problem and take that trash coaching staff
I think this 3rd loss in a Row made most of us at the same time say "TOMLIN HAS GOTTA GO" & I've tried being in his corner
Tomlin will NEVER take accountability. He's just not the guy for the job to take the team any further beyond what he has. The "exposure" starts with him. Coaches know the guy can't compete with them. Move on!!!
Other coaches know
Im ready to see Fields again...
It's not the QB fault... it's the head coach... it's Tomlin
@@JachinReedy still ready to see Justin
@@JachinReedy Tell me how Tomlin played on the O line.
we did and he lose to colts and cowboys
I CONCUR! At least some in this last game , we blew our shot at a home PO game so what have they got to lose? Where they go? Blew that too.
Rock bottom actually comes in the next game to the Bengals. The Steelers have expired for the season. Smith refuses to use his best players consistently and the Defensive Coordination operates at a high school level with a zone defense Every top qb can pick apart at will and middling qbs can use as a learning experience. After the Bengals trash them on Jan 5 and they are put out of their misery by Whatever Team they play, their first order of business should be to find A REAL DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR…….and then tell Arthur Smith either use the Best Performers ……..or go back to Atlanta…..( I now better understand the fan’s frustrations with Tomlin as he oversees the whole debacle hiding behind a plethora of alleged ‘ clever sayings’)……Enough is Enough already……
Wait Till Next Year…..
It was this time last year that we were speculating that Tomlin might step away because we lost 3 straight in December. It's the same song and dance every year and I'm honestly sick of it. It's time for Art 2 to actually do something for once and make some serious changes this off-season.
Steelers issues by importance:
1) Tomlin
2) look at #1
Enough said ! Really ENOUGH.
It’s not too late in the process to think about a change at QB. Fields has played 6 games, beat 3 playoff teams, protected the ball, and avoids sacks better than Wilson with a weak offensive line. If Russ struggles in the first half against Cincy, they should go with Justin.
8:57 I feel for JJ. Having to watch it and remain professional. What a guy. Stronger than me.
Tomlin will make big changes. He will replace the Defensive Coordinator with the Secondary Coach. It’s the Standard.
Tomlin doesn’t have a problem he is the problem
One and done
Do you think our o line and d secondary was good enough for a superbowl? ...
Well said DK! That's all I got
Russell Wilson, not moving up in the pocket and hesitating at times Patrick Queen had a couple plays where he was out of coverage Cam Sutton didn’t know what he was doing out there and we did miss our young guns at corners, but the overall play and not hustling as a team as one is gonna kill us every time
Arthur Smith is looking like Matt Canada out there. Terrible. This defense stinks.
Mike tomlin loves loser Mentality defense Coach Staffs.
As an admitted Tomlin apologist, I gotta admit that it’s the coaching and much less on the players. The team and their moments of unpreparedness, and subpar defensive and offensive game plans, from such a long tenured coach are finally making me think a change is needed.
The defensive scheme is so vanilla and easy to pick apart. With so many high end players on the D, I don’t know how that’s even possible.
I 100% agree that the offensive plays take too long to develop. It’s unfathomable just how often the WRs are not open. Most of the successful passing plays seem to be off of broken plays, not the actual play.
Hoping for the best but it may be time for a major shakeup.
DK why you say we can’t switch the quarterback situation the falcons bench Kirk Cousins for penix why can’t we bench Russ for fields
You don’t get blown out 3 weeks in a row without a lack of “want to” As a fan, I’m only committing 7 more hours to this team for the remainder of the year.
That 3rd and 4 run to “Patterson” was the worst play call for smith yesterday and might be time to think about fields atleast he can escape the pocket
There is only one problem in Pittsburgh. It is Mike Tomlin and the unwillingness of the Rooney's to hold him accountable.
The truest statement I have ever heard on You Tube Pure fact thankyou!
I really fell like Mike Tomlin has lost the locker room, and when you lost the locker room, its a wrap, Put Fields in.
Lol the Carolina Panthers put up more of a fight against the Chiefs than the Steelers... at Home. How's everybody enjoying Tomlin Purgatory? Year in and year out.
Panthers put up a better fight vs eagles too
The arrogant comment “that’s why I’m highly compensated” when answering Brandon Marshall question after the Jets game is coming back to bite him.
I believe it was about the QB switch too lol funny how he killed a bum ass Jets defense & people thought it was 2012 Russ lol
Completely agree DK
We had one good drive on offense… and then we rolled over and died
If you go back at least 3 weeks ago, and listen to what Tomlin and the players were saying and what they said after this game, it's all been the same: We have to look at the film, take a look at ourselves, play better, know where we're supposed to be, finish the play, execute better...and yet, nothing changed. DK, can this even get fixed, when they are saying what needs to be done, but still after all these games, nothing has changed, and really, things got much worse!! DK, what can be done to turn this team around?? It's beyond frustrating! They need help, and their headcoach doesn't seem to have an answer!!!
Hey DK love the show and Merry Christmas! I’m liking how CA3 is making catches and separation. What say you?
Mike T gonna have every negative record with this team before its over .
Never underestimate Tomlin’s ability to screw things up. Justin Fields has been, and is, the answer.
No he's not!
DK, the team imploded from inside... We have a DC that should be a secondary specialist and a difuncional secondary... A 4 year OL Coach that cannot develod first rounds picks... MT has a lot to explain! There are finger print of his management all over this mess.
Dk, after three losses to good teams, is it now clear this team isn’t going to make a deep run in the playoffs? Russ is better than Justin today… but why should Pittsburgh take the “win now” mentality and sign Russ and cut Justin? Russ has at best 3 years. Justin can easily play for another decade. I just fear three more years of going 10-7 and losing another wild card game and then beginning the qb search all over again. Justin still needs development but I think he can get better over time in a good system. He showed massive improvement over his time in Chicago.
Tomlin doesn't know how to develop a quarterback. JF is NOT the answer, and if you believe he is, you're fooling yourself.
Last year I was more confident about the team.
Great show I like all your observations that's always. I think the blame for the lost starts from the top. This team does have talent out there the fact that they can't get it done we have to look at the coaching staff. Period!. On the Williams catch, The rule has always been 2 feet in bounce that means one left foot and 1 right. It's not complicated. 1 left 1 right.
Andy Reid was excelling at playing chess............Tomlin was struggling to play to checkers!!! Put that in your face "Coach T"!!!!
Motivation comes from the top and so does arrogance, since Steelers made playoffs drive has left the building 😢
Calling pitches and WR screens, Russ holding the ball
All nfl experts said that Pickens was the cause of the interception..he gave up at the line of
Scrimmage.
Tomlin has got to go. I don’t care if he wins a SB with a new team. His teams have e been mediocre for the past 10 years. He only won a SB because of the team Bill Cowher left him.
I think Tomlin looks around and sees what playoff team might be winnable. He thinks Texans give him a chance to win. Then he can say he won a playoff game. Don't bet on it coach
DK I've been a fan to long to just be a fair weather fan so to all those talking crazy about my Steelers just keep that same energy when we win the playoffs
How are they going to win a playoff game?!?!?!?
@Zyreath because of our never die spirit it's not over until it's over 💪🏾💯🖤💛
@@victorsimmons5776You must have been living under a rock the last 7 years. Just because we call out the bs doesn’t make us “fair weather fans” some people (like you) are clearly fine with being a mediocre team, that’s fine but don’t try to make it seem like the rest of us are crazy 😂🤡
@Keefer24 yea but you wasn't calling out the bs while we were 8-2 all I'm saying ride or die don't just ride 💪🏾💯
@Zyreath based off our matchup. If we play a superbowl team we won't win. If we play an even / slightly worse team we should win. We never were supposed to be in the superbowl. We dont have the TEAM for it. And say what you want about the coaches. But even if they were all replaced tomorrow it'd be a worse result with the SAME team that is still not good enough.
Thank you DK. Spot on DK. Taking way to long to throw a pass. Poor pass defense and offense. After the last three games I have some doubts, I did before, but not like this. Always glad you are here DK spot on.
Todd Haley should still be our OC
Flores should be our DC
Cam Sutton shouldn’t be on the team, never been good in coverage. He’s always out of position.
The Steelers are never mentally strong, we always have a stretch where we have to be motivated by having our backs to the wall. I appreciate Mike Tomlin, he’s never out coached anyone. Any time we play a competent coaching staff, they run circles around us. I will never say NFL players aren’t tough, but I will say some are tougher than others. People bully us upfront on both sides, we are not as talented as our payroll and our coaching staff is subpar.
9-8 the new standard is the standard. See y’all in April pick #22 😂
#steelernation4life
Should have kept justin starting.
What happened to blitzburgh? Sitting back and let the QB’s pick you apart isn’t working. Dick LeBeau where are you?
How about we send 6 blitzers and play some tight man coverage.
Not enough talent, clearly.
@user-f5xt2op9t true
I called it at the beginning of the season, but yinz called me a "hater." I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!! JF is a turnover machine, and RW is no better than washed up pocket lint... and Tomlin is a fraud. Aurther (Farther) is a has been. End of story.
Good show DK. The defense is going to catch all the heat for this one, but I’m singing a different tune. Our offense isn’t good enough for a shoot out. That’s why Tomlin said that comment about the turnovers. We need the ball on a short field or an extra possession. The personnel choice at times seems like a hope and prayer situation. Particularly giving the ball to Coradelle Patterson on a 3rd and 4. Our
only explosive runner is Jaylen Warren. Dan Moore missed a block that would’ve put Najee 1 on 1 with a player that he probably would’ve hurdled his way into the end zone. Of course that’s a bit of a reach, the point is Dan Moore missed the block.
J1Q, do you think it would be beneficial for Tomlin to hire someone who can reduce turnovers from our skill players. Najee, Pat, and GP all have turned the ball over and critical game moments. Grady Brown, I believe is a turnover specialist for the defensive side of the ball. Do you think he should have someone doing the same for the offensive side of the ball?
The three losses stink. I think offensively we’re missing a dynamic playmaker. It doesn’t necessarily have to be wide receiver. I think it’s also time to consider our running back situation. I love Najee, but we lack explosive/field flipping player or players. I also didn’t like Russell Wilson being sacked that many times some of that was on him and some is on the offensive play calling because there were times where all of the players were covered so there wasn’t much we could do.
Last thought/comment. I asked this as a J1Q, when the schedule first came out what kind of product do we think is gonna happen when players have to play three games in 11 days. Other teams have to do it too is a bunch of malarkey. It’s just a horrible product and a way for teams to fail. Proper preparation prevents poor performance. You have to wonder how much practice time is really afforded. Not time for fundamentals drills. I’m glad that stretch is over.
Highsmith. Cam. Benton. Elandon Roberts. Peyton Wilson. Herbig. Elliot.
Watt (when hes healthy).
Those are the names on defense that I feel confident in.
One and done one and done. Well at least we get 2 more games to see who we give contacts to.
I don’t know DK anymore the same of the same stuff of last year season so true JV HS football to say the least thank you for the Christmas Coverage I am so disappointed being a steeler Fan since the Late 80’s we need a whole new team I am sorry it starts with the Coaches down !
I am losing my love for the game. I see no excuse for the way Pittsburgh was outcoached in the 2nd half of the last 3 games. At halftime of each game they were still in it and they used be a much better 2nd half team
Warren should be the starting running back hands down with hair is only coming in to give a breather once in awhile
for a guy who's philosophy is Winning is our business, he sure doesn't do a whole lot of it.
Maybe its time for a going out of business sale. Tomlin is too arrogant to see his flaws, a losing season or two would do wonders for his inflated ego.
Life-long Steelers fan for 50 years. I was at the game and can't remember a more uninspired game from the team and the fans. There was absolutely nothing to get excited about in this game. Sad
The Steelers just played 3 games in 11 days and came unglued just like they did in 2020. They also played 3 of the best teams in the NFL during that time. It's time to rest, regroup and beat the Bungles in 10 days time and get ready for the playoffs.
Playoffs? Playoffs? One and done again.
Well said. I 100 percent agree with you. Someone is at a disadvantage with that kind of schedule man. Horrible product forced by the NFL.
@@chrisdavis1301 4 teams had the same schedule, only the Steelers lost them all.... So your point is moot.
I'm getting tired of this. It all started during that 2020 season when we completely collapsed in December. And it's just been more of the same year in and year out. I'm just over it.
No improvement versus 2023 but hope they can win a wildcard game.
We never addressed corner. We never addressed receiver... it's catching up to us