Great video and one I thought about making also. I typically use 5 or 6 pads per car depending on what i am doing to the paint. I did a big Cadillac Escalade that the paint was hammered and I used 18 pads. That’s the most I have ever used on a detail. The brush works but blowing the pad out with compressed air after every pass works awesome. Glad you made this video because people need to see this and understand that 1 pad just isn’t sufficient if you want to do an entire Polish in one day.
Good video. I remember being frustrated looking for a video like this. I found all the info spread out from different content makers and had a lot of questions unanswered... I think this is the best all around video on the subject without wandering off into brands or polishers or compounds. Thanks for the video. I know it's gonna help out a lot of new hobbyists.
There is a SPTA cordless mini polisher, looks like just what you need for those tricky areas. Miranda Detailing channel has some videos about it. Very much like the rupes iBrid... conceptually at least, but cheaper. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Nobody told me beforehand that I would be needing more than one pad, so I had to learn the hard way. Best
The Pxe80 is truly a top machine that's for sure.. untill you get it in your hands a few days on it you slowly understand the true power and how universal the polisher really is.. I totally agree with everything you said about it.. Its an amazing tool.. 👍🏼😎
every time I use it I like it more. Its capability of the machine with the 75ml plate with the DA adapter is great.. for something so small it has good grunt. And it just feels so nice to use. literally the only thing Im not massivly keen on is the digital power dial but its no major problem.
good video Jon. I use 8 to 12 to keep within the maximum cutting/ finishing quality window. one pad per panel and swap them out rather than wash out two pads or four pads with a pad washer two to three times. heat cycles and polishing sets wear pads out so I eliminate each pad to only one to three sections and that's it then switch
For the heavy stage I use 5-6 pads as I keep rotating them, this helps keep them cool and they last longer. Clean with pad washer then air, for second stage 3-4 pads is fine.
I typically use only 1 pad. I use a pad washer after each panel to remove the spent compound/polish and removed paint. Works well for me. Obviously I am using up the pad quickly instead of putting a little bit of wear on several pads.
I polish with 2 cutting 2 polishing 2 finishing pads 😅 I just switch between sets and wash it out. Spin it on the machine and it stays good as new 🤷🏻♀️
I bought a cocraft 720hpv 720w 15mm da it doesn’t free spin the plate doesn’t hit the shroud it’s the breaking that’s a bit stiff COD it’s new it’s pretty much identical to the autofiness dpx but over 1/2 the price
Best save up and spread the cost to get many pads. Use one for shorter amount (or panel) without hammering and change pad. Wash used pads one time and in the end they all last longer kept in better condition.
Great video John. Quick one. I'm just gonna throw a little glaze and some hybrid wax on my car till summer but will I still need 4\6 pads to just spread and buff on 'finishers'?
I think the Shinemate EP803 kit is a bargain if your after a rotary especially cause it comes with 80mm,56mm and 40mm heavy,medium,finishing, polishing pads,extensions etc
Hi mate. I'm going to give a machine polish a shot. Your Flex tool love is contagious. And I've been following all your videos and guides so far. I bought some koch chemie kit and I'm ready to go. I was hoping to ask you one thing. My car has got piano black pillars, would finish cut and soft pad be alright to get wash maring out of them?
hey there, if you search for how to polish gloss black pillars I have a video on this which shows you how to do it. And its probably the only video that actually shows you the results properly because its not as easy to get a marr free finish as you might think and the tips in the video are really the best way to do it, its one thing talking a good game with gloss pillars its another thing showing people your work properly, up close with the camera and with the right light.
Jon. I have the same car as you but with the MSport Shadow Wheels. They are a real pain to clean and I can’t seem to polish the scratches out. Would love to know what you’d suggest
Such an incredibly important video! I‘m working on a very very similar one explaining why polishing with the target of removing as much defects and finishing as good as possible just isn‘t possible in a cheap way. If you‘re interested, I‘ll post you the link as soon as it‘s online. We need to educate people more and tell them that the term „entry-level polishing set“ really isn‘t fair to begin with.
Andreas Schwarzinger a lot of retail detailers only interested in selling products. I see a lot of just plain lies on a lot of channels, mainly about rotary polishers.
Hi john I was thinking king of getting koch fine cut and micro cut 5 pads of each I have Japanese car clear most likley soft you think that will do trick to clean things up a bit
4 of each pad plus the 3 inch pads around £280😧 btw a good idea for a video is how to inspect the car for swirls scratches and rids also a video on how to do a test spot would be beneficial
Hi . Quick unrelated question. As you've used probably used just about every detailing product know to man. I bought myself a black car which looks fantastic when clean but then after a rain shower (which it does here in UK quite often) is covered in horrible spots. Is there a product or method of cleaning to help reduce this? Many thanks
no. Seriously. All protection products with any hdrophobic effect even if its a strong sheeting action will help water spots to form. Only true hydrophillic products will not. There are virtually no hydrophillic products on the market because they look dead even after you have applied them. So basically you got to wash car off. Best product to fix your problem is a garage or like piller post with roof place to park.
Question, my BMW is black and has a lot of swirls and scratches. First I will wash it, then use a claybar with onr, only which polish is the best for a black car and which pads, hex etc.(and brand) do I need. Thanks
Buying is 1 thing finding time when you have a hectic schedule is another. Pandemic or no pandemic, leave my car in staff car park for a few hours and I guarantee it’s covered in dust from farm vehicles 🚜
What 30/40/50mm pads are you using for the PXE Jon? FYI John, don't bother with a corded rotary machine, drill a hole in the middle of the 3" backing plate for the PXE and throw it on the rotary bit.
all flex pads. The PXE does not have the power to run that 3inch plate with the rotary adapter, I think thats why they put that pin in there to stop you doing that.
Orange pads are usually medium/ heavy cutting pads. After a one step "paint enhancement" you can apply a wax by hand or by machine using a very very soft pad.
Hi Jon would the Flex PXE 80 take the 125mm pad. I have a VW Arteon tons of folds and creases everywhere, I only really want to buy one machine, hopping a bigger pad would also fit.
Unfortunately you need at least two machines, maybe even three if you buy all Rupes machines. For the price of the PXE 80 you could get the Liquid Elements A1000 for intricate stuff and one of the cheaper DA’s for the big flatter panels. I bought the PXE 80 yesterday to complement my Rupes LHR 15 mk3. The LC UDOS might change the need for more than one machine but it’s looking like it will be around £700 for the machine. It has rotary, 8mm, 12mm, 15mm and 21mm throw in one machine. Even then there might still be a need for a machine that takes smaller pads 1” or 2” for tight areas.
John, may I please ask where would you recommend I get a 75mm (3” in old money) backing plate that would fit a Das 6 Pro type Polisher? Pads also to fit the smaller plate. 😀
Another great video Jon! Thanks mate. P.s. when are you going to sell me some of your Hexlogic pads? You know you want the extra drawer space for more Flex pads. 😉😉😉
you typically will have a rough idea from the marque although thats no guerentee, ultimately its when you start trying to cut out swirls you will start seeing how easy it is. The easier they cut out the softer it is.. but some really soft paints can marr up more when cutting.. so yer its a case of suck it and see.
Enjoying your channel but as a complete noob looking to do this recreationally, I'm pretty overwhelmed by the forensic approach as some of the 'insider info' whooshes over my head ~ plus I'm undecided if my older model car is even worth investing in the polisher, pads, etc...thinking it'd be similar to an older woman getting a facelift and others would look at it & shake their heads with pity lol 😱🙃
FAB Automotive Detailing I rotate mine after every pass, helps them last longer with no over heating, i use the lake country pad washer then blow them out.
@@Gooddaytosavelives412 yes. Cg pads are nice to start with. Not too course decent price. But the scholl and flex pads can take a beating and wont delaminate and breakdown anywhere near as quick.
Jon - the beginnings of the videos for last half dozen or so feel a bit rushed and frantic and diving headlong into it - i know it’s the ‘less formal’ unplugged channel but if i’d never heard of either and came across this video i might think that and not bother. Not on negative vibe but I know you’ve been doing this a long time and have so many dedicated fans but maybe keep in mind new subscribers 👍
Hi mate i like to say thank you You inspired me to start my business as a passion and now i have my own products would you be happy to review my snowfoam extreme highly concentrated and i also have an iron fallout remover but it does not bleed it works just like the theres my business is w.c.p.w Details would you be able to privately messge me i would send them to you free of charge i am happy to send a picture of them to via email but please give me an honest review of this product as its new for me as well. Befor my own products i used built hamber till i got my own i am selling them to the public but in london at the moment as it all a new start for me please let me know if you are happy to try this its 5lt of iron fallout remover none bleed and 5lt of snow foam extreme none caustic am on my suns account as i dnt have one any more as they started a youtube channel with 1 video on it atm but ye give me a shout if your happy to test this out and give me a review on it see if its worth the price i am selling for and if you think its a good clean am happy to explain more about this in a email my name is will thank you
Great video and one I thought about making also. I typically use 5 or 6 pads per car depending on what i am doing to the paint. I did a big Cadillac Escalade that the paint was hammered and I used 18 pads. That’s the most I have ever used on a detail. The brush works but blowing the pad out with compressed air after every pass works awesome. Glad you made this video because people need to see this and understand that 1 pad just isn’t sufficient if you want to do an entire Polish in one day.
Good video. I remember being frustrated looking for a video like this. I found all the info spread out from different content makers and had a lot of questions unanswered... I think this is the best all around video on the subject without wandering off into brands or polishers or compounds. Thanks for the video. I know it's gonna help out a lot of new hobbyists.
There is a SPTA cordless mini polisher, looks like just what you need for those tricky areas. Miranda Detailing channel has some videos about it. Very much like the rupes iBrid... conceptually at least, but cheaper. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Nobody told me beforehand that I would be needing more than one pad, so I had to learn the hard way. Best
Airline with a tornador attachment cleans them up amazingly between sets
Sounds interesting. Can you show us a link of the attachment please mate? Thanks
@@stratf0182 can just use an air nozal
Casting this to my tele and just wanted to thank you for cleaning the inside of my tele's screen John 😁
The Pxe80 is truly a top machine that's for sure.. untill you get it in your hands a few days on it you slowly understand the true power and how universal the polisher really is.. I totally agree with everything you said about it.. Its an amazing tool.. 👍🏼😎
every time I use it I like it more. Its capability of the machine with the 75ml plate with the DA adapter is great.. for something so small it has good grunt. And it just feels so nice to use. literally the only thing Im not massivly keen on is the digital power dial but its no major problem.
good video Jon. I use 8 to 12 to keep within the maximum cutting/ finishing quality window. one pad per panel and swap them out rather than wash out two pads or four pads with a pad washer two to three times. heat cycles and polishing sets wear pads out so I eliminate each pad to only one to three sections and that's it then switch
Love the winter / summer tyres comparison. I say that to people a lot!
This was exactly my problem ! Thanks for the help Jon!
For the heavy stage I use 5-6 pads as I keep rotating them, this helps keep them cool and they last longer. Clean with pad washer then air, for second stage 3-4 pads is fine.
Nice tips mate! Love the quick clean tutorial. I was doing the same thing not knowing if it was right.
I typically use only 1 pad. I use a pad washer after each panel to remove the spent compound/polish and removed paint. Works well for me. Obviously I am using up the pad quickly instead of putting a little bit of wear on several pads.
Another great informative video Jon 😎👍🏻🏴
oh dear " how many f' ing pads Jon :) ;)
I polish with 2 cutting 2 polishing 2 finishing pads 😅 I just switch between sets and wash it out. Spin it on the machine and it stays good as new 🤷🏻♀️
I’m concidering using 2 pads as well
How many cars can you get done with that many
My wife has just looked at this video and said what's your garage doing on your phone!!!
Extremely helpful. Thank you.
I bought a cocraft 720hpv 720w 15mm da it doesn’t free spin the plate doesn’t hit the shroud it’s the breaking that’s a bit stiff COD it’s new it’s pretty much identical to the autofiness dpx but over 1/2 the price
Best save up and spread the cost to get many pads. Use one for shorter amount (or panel) without hammering and change pad. Wash used pads one time and in the end they all last longer kept in better condition.
Great video John. Quick one. I'm just gonna throw a little glaze and some hybrid wax on my car till summer but will I still need 4\6 pads to just spread and buff on 'finishers'?
I think the Shinemate EP803 kit is a bargain if your after a rotary especially cause it comes with 80mm,56mm and 40mm heavy,medium,finishing, polishing pads,extensions etc
Hi mate. I'm going to give a machine polish a shot. Your Flex tool love is contagious. And I've been following all your videos and guides so far. I bought some koch chemie kit and I'm ready to go. I was hoping to ask you one thing. My car has got piano black pillars, would finish cut and soft pad be alright to get wash maring out of them?
hey there, if you search for how to polish gloss black pillars I have a video on this which shows you how to do it. And its probably the only video that actually shows you the results properly because its not as easy to get a marr free finish as you might think and the tips in the video are really the best way to do it, its one thing talking a good game with gloss pillars its another thing showing people your work properly, up close with the camera and with the right light.
Ty vm John
Jon. I have the same car as you but with the MSport Shadow Wheels. They are a real pain to clean and I can’t seem to polish the scratches out. Would love to know what you’d suggest
Such an incredibly important video! I‘m working on a very very similar one explaining why polishing with the target of removing as much defects and finishing as good as possible just isn‘t possible in a cheap way. If you‘re interested, I‘ll post you the link as soon as it‘s online. We need to educate people more and tell them that the term „entry-level polishing set“ really isn‘t fair to begin with.
Andreas Schwarzinger a lot of retail detailers only interested in selling products. I see a lot of just plain lies on a lot of channels, mainly about rotary polishers.
Paul Hamilton like?
Hi john I was thinking king of getting koch fine cut and micro cut 5 pads of each I have Japanese car clear most likley soft you think that will do trick to clean things up a bit
should be fine mate.
4 of each pad plus the 3 inch pads around £280😧 btw a good idea for a video is how to inspect the car for swirls scratches and rids also a video on how to do a test spot would be beneficial
Cool vid john and don't worry about swearing a few people days a lot worse on their channels
Hi . Quick unrelated question. As you've used probably used just about every detailing product know to man. I bought myself a black car which looks fantastic when clean but then after a rain shower (which it does here in UK quite often) is covered in horrible spots. Is there a product or method of cleaning to help reduce this? Many thanks
no. Seriously. All protection products with any hdrophobic effect even if its a strong sheeting action will help water spots to form. Only true hydrophillic products will not. There are virtually no hydrophillic products on the market because they look dead even after you have applied them.
So basically you got to wash car off. Best product to fix your problem is a garage or like piller post with roof place to park.
Question, my BMW is black and has a lot of swirls and scratches.
First I will wash it, then use a claybar with onr, only which polish is the best for a black car and which pads, hex etc.(and brand) do I need.
Thanks
Menzerna. They have a yt channel and are very active in the comments section
Buying is 1 thing finding time when you have a hectic schedule is another. Pandemic or no pandemic, leave my car in staff car park for a few hours and I guarantee it’s covered in dust from farm vehicles 🚜
Great advice 👍😁
What 30/40/50mm pads are you using for the PXE Jon?
FYI John, don't bother with a corded rotary machine, drill a hole in the middle of the 3" backing plate for the PXE and throw it on the rotary bit.
all flex pads. The PXE does not have the power to run that 3inch plate with the rotary adapter, I think thats why they put that pin in there to stop you doing that.
Great video Jon. So would you use a medium pad and compound for light / medium swirls then use an orange pad with your polish wax to finish? Thanks.
Orange pads are usually medium/ heavy cutting pads. After a one step "paint enhancement" you can apply a wax by hand or by machine using a very very soft pad.
@@muhammadarfan4663 Thank you for your advice.
Hi Jon would the Flex PXE 80 take the 125mm pad. I have a VW Arteon tons of folds and creases everywhere, I only really want to buy one machine, hopping a bigger pad would also fit.
125mm pad would put to much pressure on the motor, it’s just not designed for it.
Unfortunately you need at least two machines, maybe even three if you buy all Rupes machines. For the price of the PXE 80 you could get the Liquid Elements A1000 for intricate stuff and one of the cheaper DA’s for the big flatter panels. I bought the PXE 80 yesterday to complement my Rupes LHR 15 mk3. The LC UDOS might change the need for more than one machine but it’s looking like it will be around £700 for the machine. It has rotary, 8mm, 12mm, 15mm and 21mm throw in one machine. Even then there might still be a need for a machine that takes smaller pads 1” or 2” for tight areas.
John, may I please ask where would you recommend I get a 75mm (3” in old money) backing plate that would fit a Das 6 Pro type Polisher? Pads also to fit the smaller plate. 😀
in2detailing, clean your car, clean and shiny, polished bliss. any of those m8
John, a gentleman and a scholar, thank you. Loving the tutorials, please keep it up 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
To dry a pad, I simply slowly use the machine at full speed like you did and it vaporizes out all the water.
Can you not get away with tiny polishing attachments for cordless drill to polish in tiny and tiny curved places John ?
Great info 👍
If you prime the pads covers every pour you will over some then more and need more pads
If you blow it out with an air line can you go longer between washing
I'm surprised "bloody" is such a taboo word in other parts of the world. Whereas here in Australia we use it in nearly every sentence.
I used fairy liquid and warm water on my pads but cant get the stains out
Should be only compound stains, if it’s anything else you might not have clayed properly or from unmasked window trims.
Another great video Jon! Thanks mate.
P.s. when are you going to sell me some of your Hexlogic pads? You know you want the extra drawer space for more Flex pads. 😉😉😉
He’s been selling on ebay he sold his hex pads with the das6 pro
Hi John
How do you tell between a hard or soft paint / clear coat , thanks David
you typically will have a rough idea from the marque although thats no guerentee, ultimately its when you start trying to cut out swirls you will start seeing how easy it is. The easier they cut out the softer it is.. but some really soft paints can marr up more when cutting.. so yer its a case of suck it and see.
Forensic Unplugged thanks, enjoy the videos
david martin you can also email the manufacturer, check forums or call a dealership. Good luck
I must admit I use the rotary so have more options when polishing but do need more pads 🙄🙄
I can't understand why not use rotary machines on all angled areas because the DA's stalls all the time...
Rotary ftw!
Enjoying your channel but as a complete noob looking to do this recreationally, I'm pretty overwhelmed by the forensic approach as some of the 'insider info' whooshes over my head ~ plus I'm undecided if my older model car is even worth investing in the polisher, pads, etc...thinking it'd be similar to an older woman getting a facelift and others would look at it & shake their heads with pity lol 😱🙃
Big fan of compressed air
Do you have a air compressor at home for blowing out polishing pads? If you do how is it?
That’s how I do it also! I blow my pads out after every pass with my air compressor. Works way better then a brush.
FAB Automotive Detailing I rotate mine after every pass, helps them last longer with no over heating, i use the lake country pad washer then blow them out.
Would you recommend 3M pads?
I recomend Flex Pads and Scholl concepts Spider or Ninjaa pads . And if these are too expenesive I suggest to people to try Rupes or Zvizzer pads.
@@forensicunplugged4295 thanks for replying Jon!
You were recommending chemical guys pads before, would you recommend these over chemical guys pads?
@@Gooddaytosavelives412 yes. Cg pads are nice to start with. Not too course decent price. But the scholl and flex pads can take a beating and wont delaminate and breakdown anywhere near as quick.
4 pads in cutting polishing and finishing is just too expensive for a guy at home 2 of each will do
for lots of guys it could be hakim yer 4 of each can be 80 quids worth of pads.
@@forensicunplugged4295 Brian from apex detail uses 2 pads per car as well if it’s good enough for a pro good enough for a guy at home lol
I sold my rotary cos of the pulling
whats going on?
oh man, have look at keto/carnivore diet, it made my life a difference.
big time.
dam seagulls yapping lol
Jon - the beginnings of the videos for last half dozen or so feel a bit rushed and frantic and diving headlong into it - i know it’s the ‘less formal’ unplugged channel but if i’d never heard of either and came across this video i might think that and not bother. Not on negative vibe but I know you’ve been doing this a long time and have so many dedicated fans but maybe keep in mind new subscribers 👍
Yesssssss
Hi mate i like to say thank you
You inspired me to start my business as a passion and now i have my own products would you be happy to review my snowfoam extreme highly concentrated and i also have an iron fallout remover but it does not bleed it works just like the theres my business is w.c.p.w Details would you be able to privately messge me i would send them to you free of charge i am happy to send a picture of them to via email but please give me an honest review of this product as its new for me as well.
Befor my own products i used built hamber till i got my own i am selling them to the public but in london at the moment as it all a new start for me please let me know if you are happy to try this its 5lt of iron fallout remover none bleed and 5lt of snow foam extreme none caustic am on my suns account as i dnt have one any more as they started a youtube channel with 1 video on it atm but ye give me a shout if your happy to test this out and give me a review on it see if its worth the price i am selling for and if you think its a good clean am happy to explain more about this in a email my name is will thank you
What can I get for 10 dollar?
I can drag my beach towel across your hood with some Dawn
Sixty fu%£ing quid!!!