Totally. I mean, Rodney should get paid more than most everyone, but not Daniel, not the original A team. I don't know why he'd even consider that he'd get more than Daniel. He's kind of a big deal.
Alexander It’s called the White House. Sure it smells like old shit, mixed with fetid sewer water, but the people recognize it as a place of power and leadership.
Dream Team Up Squad, Carter, McKay, Daniel, Rush and Eli 💣 Rush is like kinda an Egotistical and self centred version of both McKay and Jackson... Eli is like a Naive and curious Carter...imagine a team up of these guys, i mean Jackson and Rush overlap in curiosity, others overlap on science knowledge.
People don't give Daniel Jackson credit for the fact that he started the whole fricking Stargate thing in the first place. This is like people constantly giving Larry David shit on Curb Your Enthusiasm even though he created the most successful sitcom in the history of television.
@@mattainsworth6389 But, he still did get the Stargate Program up and running. And, it was The Ori who came after the Milky Way, all Daniel and (of course) Vallah did was make our existence known to them. Bad thing? Yeah. But Daniel and Vallah did nothing unreasonable to provoke The Ori. Just existing is not provocation. Especially, when we are all the way in another galaxy! I don't care who's measuring tape you are using, that is a *LONG* way away!
Why do you say that? I mean those that have watched it know he was able to figure out that the symbols were constellations and determines a point in 3 dimensional space plus the point of origin. Do you refer to the characters?
I always wondered if that "We dit it for the money" was actually in the script or if it was an improv by him to subtly hint at why he did this cameo :|
Iirc og stargate they had a lot of freedom to insert themselves into the story. Like the first season or first eps, idr, was all scripted, but then just became a thing of of actions their chars would take with some limited dialogue that the actors would work with. Idr which convention or interview it was, but yes, a lot of stargate was improv
Rodney was a Canadian scientist working for IOA after working for US government. Daniel was basically civilian contractor working for the military, add the fact they both got hazard pay for being in combat situations and their seniority and they were probably some of the best paid people around. I do think Daniel was paid more, since US military likes to spend their budget on contractors while international agencies tend to be bean counters.
@@epicstyle1000 Governments will usually not pay as high as a civilian employer for expertise. Government procurement (contracts included) are usually described as "Lowest Bidder", meaning if they can get the job done for a lower price, they'll do it that way. Another infamous phrase is "military grade" which usually lets military personnel know that whatever is being described is actually not that great. While there are certainly exceptions, generally speaking you get paid less for the same job you would do civilian-side, though with added danger pay when in dangerous environments.
@@Dusxio And that's the Problem, he learned the art of banter from Jack. That's like learning straight from Bruce Lee for years and then you are sent off to beat up some second graders. The Atlantis team wouldn't stand a chance.
@@CedricBassman Come now, the kids have to learn somehow. He'll be the mysterious master of Lore and Snark dwelling in the depths of the City of the Ancestors XD
At this point rather than a bank account, Daniel should just have a goverment purchace card and no rules or limits or oversight other than to make sure someone else isnt using it.
@@adamcarreras-neal4697 No he left because the Showrunners didn't do anything with Daniel, so he asked to be written off. Which they did with him dying and ascending. Which ironically sparked one of the most interesting Storylines of SG-1, which is why he returned later on.
Honestly, it could go either way and depends on what title Daniel actually holds within the SGC. He is after all just another contract worker for the US military, same as Rodney. So the question ultimately becomes, who wears more hats? You get the impression that Daniel is considered the SGC's lead archaeologist but is this a actual position or just something he does cause he has the most experience? Does he get paid more for it? Rodney on the other hand is the lead scientist for the entire Atlantis Expedition. He is one of the 3 senior department heads with only the expedition leader and military commander being ahead of him in terms of authority. Daniel while being used as a consultant on a variety of occasions...never seems to have any additional authority granted to him. This leads me to conclude that his pay grade may very well be lower than Rodney's. Ultimately it comes down to the terms of their respective contracts.
Does getting paid even mean anything for the Atlantis expedition in another galaxy? It's not like their money can be used to buy anything at Atlantis, own property and so on. Everything is provided for; living space, food, etc. Daniel at least is based on Earth, so his wages can actually be used to buy the usual stuff that Earth people can buy.
@@bangscutter Supposedly they wont stay on Atlantis forever, and personnel would occasionally get vacation time, time off, leave of absence, etc. Which means they still need to get paid.
Rodney's base pay might be higher than Daniel's, but considering mileage reimbursement and the fact pegasus is roughly 2.351E19 miles from earth, using the standard mileage reimbursement for 2006 of 44.5cents/mi comes out to 1.046195E19 or roughly 10 quintillion dollars.
Archaeologists always get rubbish pay, so it checks out that Daniel isn't getting the pay deserved of someone who literally figured out how to dial stargates
Newsflash, Rodney if it wasn't for Dr Jackson in the first place, you wouldn't be playing with Cool Ancient Tech, after all he solved the Stargate, in the first place
Daniel has probably renegotiated his contract a few more times than McKay. Not to mention the various military personnel who would vouch for his worth to the program over the years.
Based on current job postings for a historian and a physicist working for government. Daniel Jackson makes about $70k a year as a civilian federally contracted advisor to the Air Force. Rodney McKay makes about $57k a year as a research physicist for the Canadian military. Note that these amounts would not include overtime and hazard pay. No wonder Rodney was all the sudden curious about how much Daniel makes.
Based purely on seniority, Daniel's salary probably was higher. But Daniel lives on Earth and therefore has things like a mortgage and food bills and insurance payments, while Rodney's money doesn't do anything but accrue in his back account, Rodney probably has more overall.
Well, Rodney can patent a lot of stuff unlike Daniel, who's limited to lecturess and books once programm would be unveiled in 40-60 years. And in alternate reality where he was Carter's husband, he was basically Elon Mask.
Rodney does have more potential income with patents, but Daniel likely gets paid more. He's a tad more vital than Rodney, Rodney being the best at what he does, vs Daniel's best at what he does as well as one of the few who can do what he does. He can basically write his own pay check. Not to mention seniority and much better field experience.
Carter is military, not civilian XD So I'm not including her in that list. But Carter is also much more well-rounded than McKay. She's just as brilliant as he is, but wiser and has more skills than just science. She's got the leadership, combat skills, piloting, etc. McKay's a lot of stuff, but all that stuff is Scientist :D
I forgot about this exchange. I would have to say Mckay has more money in the bank, but Jackson has the higher pay rate. For Mckay and every one in Atlantis, their pay has been piling up in a bank account. They cant spend any earth money in the Pegasus galaxy. I think he told his sister when wanted to give a gift to his sisters kid while she was at Atlantis "Its not like we a have a Toys R Us around here." As for Jackson his pay has got have gone up. He is one of the only civilians that the military would listen to and let run the SGC or a SGC ship in space. Being a member of SG1 has got to be a strange thing in the military of that earth. He can boss almost anyone around save for a general and the president and get away with it. Plus for both of them, no matter what normal people (non SGC people) think of them now... history will place them very high in famous people. In 100 years high school kids will have to write papers on them.
Depressingly, I think Canada is one of the only places that has a TRU at this point? I know, I was at mine till we locked the doors and turned off the lights back in 2018.
I mean, Daniel does have several years seniority on the Star Gate program over Rodney, although I don't know if contractors' pay increases over the years
I don't agree. I think Sam was a good choice. But, I wish Dr. Weir had _resigned_ from the Stargate program, so she could go the Replicators and use her skills as a diplomat to try to hammer out some kind of treaty of alliance between them and the Earth Humans. It would be consistent with her character, and nobody would have to have died.
@@TheNoiseySpectator Weir definitely deserved better than she got. They also didn't need to kill both Carson and Elizabeth for "shock value" cuz they thought the show might be ending. I never liked Sam in the show, but I also though Daniel and Elizabeth were more alike in skills (diplomats, etc) and Daniel deserved to see more of Atlantis than he did 🤷🏽♀️
@@doraliciamendoza4859 I never found out Dr. Weir's ultimate fate. I don't have pay T.V. so the last I saw of her, she was sitting with The Replicators, cloaked from the Atlantis team, and the Atlantis team had just done _something_ big and spectacular, and the Replicators said they were done, and Dr. Weir said "Good. Now we can begin". I assume we found out what that was all about in the seasons that were only shown on cable. May I ask you to what _did_ ultimately happen to Dr. Weir?
@@TheNoiseySpectator Oh I'm sorry! So, what ended up happening with her was the group of replicators she was with all tried to ascend, but they just ended up losing their physical bodies and just kinda floated around space as code. So Weir infiltrated Atlantis, built herself a body, and her replicator group followed. She asked if they could work on a machine to make them _human_ bodies so they could actually ascend, and the team decided to trust them. Except, one replicator had a screw loose and tried to mess with Atlantis, and Weir killed him. The team and Woolsey, who was leader at the time, figured it would be safer if they worked on an offworld planet. Well, they dial the gate and send the replicators through and it just leads to open space, so they all froze as soon as they went through. I'm so sorry for the long answer but the whole thing makes me mad because Weir deserved a happier ending.
@@doraliciamendoza4859 Oh, you don't have to be _sorry_ , I knew the explanation would be somewhat lengthy. And you need not be _mad_ about it. It is a T.V. show. But, I can understand you being disappointed, I am too.
of course they get paid, and it probably is basically salary pay, direct deposit into an account on earth, just keeps adding up while they are on missions.
since they are civilian they could have a contract, but these usually use military contract like for security, and companies like boeing. i dont know about individuals.
Even when they left they were still under contract. but their families and or banks were what was accruing the pay. Which would be released upon survival or their official death
It's quite obvious, that Daniel deserves much better pay than Meredith, and he should not be surprised. After all, Jackson is in Stargate Command basically from the beginning, and his contribution to Program, and Earth's safety is much, much larger than McKay's.
I'll agree with you on the first point, but it's iffy on the second. Daniel and Rodney offer different skill sets to the program. Rodney's tends to be more 'direct' with his tech and design, while Daniel gives a lot of Soft Skill/Knowledge that is also required to keep the program functional in the greater galaxy.
Like they do their jobs for the money or recognition. Jackson travels to other world's. Makay lives in Atlantis, which was once on Earth and is a spaceship, created by the Ancients themselves.
Their pay may be close due to the fact that Daniel stayed as a civilian contractor and Rodney is employed by the IOA. But in terms of bragging rights, Rodney got nothing on Daniel. I mean Daniel has an Intergalactic Warship named after him built by one of the most advanced alien civilizations ever known. Though blowing up a solar system is cool too I guess. 😂
Daniel was critical in unlocking the Stargate along with all sorts of Goa'uld, Ancient, Asgard, and other alien technologies. He had vast practical knowledge of the universe after ascending (twice) and being telepathically enlightened (a few times). He had a glorious warship named after him. He did Important Stuff which saved Earth and other worlds (numerous times). But in the end, what really mattered was that Daniel could handle himself with competence, professionalism, and dignity. While Rodney was arrogant, would giggle like a teenager when you put a gun into his hand, and would scream like a girl when you pointed one at him.
@@IIGrayfoxII - wrong. There is a pay grade for civilians. Jackson, because of his degrees and language skills would be making as much as a colonial to start and every year he would get a cost of living raise called steps. So after 5 years he would still make his base pay (as a colonial) plus 4 steps giving him more money. That shows his seniority as well. The only ones who would put rank him and be his superior are those who make more money than him. Meaning if a new guy comes along and is Making the pay of a General with no years of experience, he is the new guy, he would out rank Jackson. That though is not the case. He is at the top of seniority and the only ones over him are O’Neil and Hammond. Because they out rank him based on their rank and time in service. Which is shown in the pay. It’s a complicated system to those who do not live it. I do, and I still have problems with new people till I find out their seniority.
That's actually a fair assessment. Probably has a bigger 'hazard pay' bonus too considering he lives in an active warzone rather than just enters them.
I think since the Airforce pays for their meals and healthcare, I doubt they'd have any other expenses than apartment rent or mortgage and the occasional shopping. And pretty sure the Airforce would be paying them as "contractors" under black ops budget so the pay would surely be good.
I have a vague memory of Daniel being offered 1 million dollars in the first movie. Doesn't mean my memory is correct and I believe it was for funding. But he definitely got offered a lot of money, it would make sense that if anyone was getting paid more it would be Dr Jackson.
Yes because of course the USAF are going to say 'ok, you saved the world' or 'ok you discovered it, you should get paid more' If this was even in the realm of realistic Daniel 'might' get paid more for length of time with the SGC as key personnel but Rodney also has length of service and now is in charge of an entire department.
Why didn't Atlantic have any AI? Or did it and I never heard about it? I mean, we don't have zpm's or stargates but we have wolfram beta and military AI which can just about pass the Turing test
I got two answers for you. 1 - The city is implied to have a low interaction AI or awareness that adapts to the users/residents. The books expand on it more to make the city almost alive in a way. 2 - They might have sworn off full AIs after the replicators split off.
@@Dusxio They probably swore off of full AI a lot longer ago as we never actually find any Ancient AI tech. Even the Replicators aren't true AI as they still work within fairly narrow boundries.
@@thehighground3630 Don't forget the Atlantis replicators. Those are full AIs. And the Milky Way replicators eventually developed their own AIs such as Sixth. But it does seem that AI technology just wasn't one they invested a lot of research into.
@@thehighground3630 What do you define as limited? It's no so much limited as it's 'focused'. Sixth in the milky way, Replicarter, and the Pegasus Replicator characters that got air time all presented as fully sapient until the Atlantis time hijacked their programming to make them target the wraith again, and even then they were still intelligent about it. FRAN is the most limited AI replicator we've seen and she's the only one made by humans, and even then she had her own personality and was more like a child.
I loved this episode on the first watch, but repeat viewings led to it bugging me a lot. Daniel is formerly ascended has perfect natural understanding of Ancient as a language. Inside and out. Why does he need Rodney to translate anything for him? I get it's Stargate Atlantis, and Rodney is the star of this one while Jackson is just a guest star, but come on.
I feel part of it is the Technical aspect. Daniel isn't in the physics and engineering fields. He's picked up a lot sure, but Rodney thrives in it. Then just the overall Teamwork aspect. Two sets of eyes are better than one perspective.
@@Dusxio Oh, don't get me wrong, I don't doubt Rodney should be there. But there are scenes where Rodney is literally translating text on a screen that Daniel is 100% fluent in to Daniel. It makes no sense. It's like Daniel is humouring Rodney's enormous ego by letting him mansplain stuff he obviously already understands perfectly.
@@tyrannicpuppy To be fair... Daniel totally would humour Rodney like that. Both to ease conflict at the moment, and for the private kick of it XD Just think back to Window of Opportunity and 'Maybe he read your report?' Daniel's a passive troll XD
I figured it is the technical aspect as well. When he and Carter were out of phase with Merlin's device he made a comment about that before they found the gate address.
I don't see why any of them need money. Outside of the SGC/Atlantis, sure, but when has any of them left base for long? When on base the SG teams get all they need, food, water, sleep and medical care, all for free.
The same can be said for any military person on active deployment. But there are four major reasons. - They still need to pay for their homes, cars, bills, etc while employed. - While they might have quarters on base, not everyone stays on the base all the time. Teal'c tried living off base for a while, and we have seen Jack, Sam and Daniel at home. - You don't necessarily work for the SGC your entire life. A lot of people in the show made a career of it sure, but some are only their for a while. You'll need money when you're done. - Many have families who need support.
Hehe, I can see the free medical care now. "Dr. Jackson, unfortunately you picked up an alien parasite on your last mission. Fotunelty, this alien energy device (which we spent a billions dollars to discover) can remove it. Also you have prostate cancer... do you have insurance?"
Rodney Mckay was the worst thing to happen to SGA. imagine how much better the show would have been with a character that was actually likable or had at least one redeeming quality.
Fortunately, Daniel has accumulated so many life insurance payouts that his salary is largely irrelevant.
Lmfao he goes by Rusty Shackleburg now a days.
Daniel may've ended up bankrupting an insurance company or two😉😁😈.
Ronon: "You guys are getting paid?"
"Ronon" is the one laughing all the way to the bank in 2020.
@@dogsbd lmao yes, super happy for the dude he made it big!
@@dogsbd but apparently even after GoT he said he was broke.
@@specialnewb9821 That was 9 years ago, his reported net worth is now $14 million
@@dogsbd yeah but he was still barely making it until Aquaman.
Daniel was the equivalent of a god, I think he deserves to be paid more.
he still has the ancient knowledge suppressed as well.
Totally. I mean, Rodney should get paid more than most everyone, but not Daniel, not the original A team. I don't know why he'd even consider that he'd get more than Daniel. He's kind of a big deal.
@John Doe America has a lock?
Alexander It’s called the White House. Sure it smells like old shit, mixed with fetid sewer water, but the people recognize it as a place of power and leadership.
@@crypto1223 Stop that, Crypto! Embittered Much?
"I'm part of flippin' S. G. ONE. ..... of course I get paid more than you"
EXACTLY!
Thank you!
I wish they had more scenes together. They are so great together 😎
I know, right? I would love to see Daniel as a regular cast member on Atlantis XD Even if he wasn't on a gate team
Indeed, I love their rapid-fire paced conversations that is spiced with Danny's sarcasm and Rodney's irritation.
Dream Team Up Squad, Carter, McKay, Daniel, Rush and Eli 💣 Rush is like kinda an Egotistical and self centred version of both McKay and Jackson... Eli is like a Naive and curious Carter...imagine a team up of these guys, i mean Jackson and Rush overlap in curiosity, others overlap on science knowledge.
"You dont get paid more than me... do you?"
"I get paid in american, you get paid in canadian. what do you think?"
It's all losing value anyway.
Funny enough, Michael Shanks is Canadian.
People don't give Daniel Jackson credit for the fact that he started the whole fricking Stargate thing in the first place. This is like people constantly giving Larry David shit on Curb Your Enthusiasm even though he created the most successful sitcom in the history of television.
But he did start the war with the Ori...
Fuck the ori they ain't got shit on our unsullied
@@mattainsworth6389 But, he still did get the Stargate Program up and running.
And, it was The Ori who came after the Milky Way, all Daniel and (of course) Vallah did was make our existence known to them.
Bad thing? Yeah.
But Daniel and Vallah did nothing unreasonable to provoke The Ori. Just existing is not provocation.
Especially, when we are all the way in another galaxy! I don't care who's measuring tape you are using, that is a *LONG* way away!
Why do you say that? I mean those that have watched it know he was able to figure out that the symbols were constellations and determines a point in 3 dimensional space plus the point of origin. Do you refer to the characters?
@@mattainsworth6389 Larry David started the war with the Ori?
I always wondered if that "We dit it for the money" was actually in the script or if it was an improv by him to subtly hint at why he did this cameo :|
Iirc og stargate they had a lot of freedom to insert themselves into the story. Like the first season or first eps, idr, was all scripted, but then just became a thing of of actions their chars would take with some limited dialogue that the actors would work with. Idr which convention or interview it was, but yes, a lot of stargate was improv
The line was a reference to the joke from one of the finales in SG1, between Daniel and Jack
Rodney was a Canadian scientist working for IOA after working for US government. Daniel was basically civilian contractor working for the military, add the fact they both got hazard pay for being in combat situations and their seniority and they were probably some of the best paid people around. I do think Daniel was paid more, since US military likes to spend their budget on contractors while international agencies tend to be bean counters.
@@Matej_Sojka How many people can read egyptian and ancient, supply short + high demand = high price
@@epicstyle1000 Governments will usually not pay as high as a civilian employer for expertise. Government procurement (contracts included) are usually described as "Lowest Bidder", meaning if they can get the job done for a lower price, they'll do it that way. Another infamous phrase is "military grade" which usually lets military personnel know that whatever is being described is actually not that great.
While there are certainly exceptions, generally speaking you get paid less for the same job you would do civilian-side, though with added danger pay when in dangerous environments.
I wish Daniel became a regular character on Atlantis at some point, but these two episodes are great because of the Daniel/Rodney banter.
He's had years of dealing with Jack to master the art of Banter and would be the best addition to the Altantis crew's interactions XD
@@Dusxio
And that's the Problem, he learned the art of banter from Jack.
That's like learning straight from Bruce Lee for years and then you are sent off to beat up some second graders.
The Atlantis team wouldn't stand a chance.
@@CedricBassman Come now, the kids have to learn somehow. He'll be the mysterious master of Lore and Snark dwelling in the depths of the City of the Ancestors XD
At this point rather than a bank account, Daniel should just have a goverment purchace card and no rules or limits or oversight other than to make sure someone else isnt using it.
Does that cover investing it? Such "spend as you need" deals are never for life
@@crackwitz You are right, in Daniel's case it goes on for multiple lives. 😉
I think it was an inside joke about the actor. He left and came back. It was rumored to be about money
Really. Nice catch, Jenny. ⭐
Thanks.
season 6, SG1, I think he also wanted equal billing with RDA
@@adamcarreras-neal4697
No he left because the Showrunners didn't do anything with Daniel, so he asked to be written off. Which they did with him dying and ascending. Which ironically sparked one of the most interesting Storylines of SG-1, which is why he returned later on.
Technically Daniel doesn't get paid more than Rodney. Rodney collects a paycheck but Daniel doesn't have to pay for anything on multiple worlds
Indeed. Hell, the Asgard named a ship after him.
This is one of the best episodes and best interactions between the two
It really is XD
Honestly, it could go either way and depends on what title Daniel actually holds within the SGC. He is after all just another contract worker for the US military, same as Rodney. So the question ultimately becomes, who wears more hats? You get the impression that Daniel is considered the SGC's lead archaeologist but is this a actual position or just something he does cause he has the most experience? Does he get paid more for it? Rodney on the other hand is the lead scientist for the entire Atlantis Expedition. He is one of the 3 senior department heads with only the expedition leader and military commander being ahead of him in terms of authority. Daniel while being used as a consultant on a variety of occasions...never seems to have any additional authority granted to him. This leads me to conclude that his pay grade may very well be lower than Rodney's. Ultimately it comes down to the terms of their respective contracts.
Does getting paid even mean anything for the Atlantis expedition in another galaxy? It's not like their money can be used to buy anything at Atlantis, own property and so on. Everything is provided for; living space, food, etc. Daniel at least is based on Earth, so his wages can actually be used to buy the usual stuff that Earth people can buy.
@@bangscutter Supposedly they wont stay on Atlantis forever, and personnel would occasionally get vacation time, time off, leave of absence, etc. Which means they still need to get paid.
Rodney's base pay might be higher than Daniel's, but considering mileage reimbursement and the fact pegasus is roughly 2.351E19 miles from earth, using the standard mileage reimbursement for 2006 of 44.5cents/mi comes out to 1.046195E19 or roughly 10 quintillion dollars.
Archaeologists always get rubbish pay, so it checks out that Daniel isn't getting the pay deserved of someone who literally figured out how to dial stargates
Depends if they're Contractors or Government employees.
Considering the nature of their work I'd say Contractor.
Newsflash, Rodney if it wasn't for Dr Jackson in the first place, you wouldn't be playing with Cool Ancient Tech, after all he solved the Stargate, in the first place
I miss this show
Daniel has probably renegotiated his contract a few more times than McKay. Not to mention the various military personnel who would vouch for his worth to the program over the years.
I wonder if his deaths count as leaving the program or just extended leave XD
When the national security thing came up I’m sure the Air Force wasn’t very concerned about his free healthcare benefits.
@@Dusxio I always had this discussion with my father. I also wonder if they just stopped giving him a funeral after a certain point.
Daniel might have hazard pay for all the times he's been killed.
He's got a heck of a life insurance plan XD
Who got paid more, Michael Shanks or David Hewlett? That is the real question we want answered...
Based on current job postings for a historian and a physicist working for government. Daniel Jackson makes about $70k a year as a civilian federally contracted advisor to the Air Force. Rodney McKay makes about $57k a year as a research physicist for the Canadian military. Note that these amounts would not include overtime and hazard pay. No wonder Rodney was all the sudden curious about how much Daniel makes.
Based purely on seniority, Daniel's salary probably was higher. But Daniel lives on Earth and therefore has things like a mortgage and food bills and insurance payments, while Rodney's money doesn't do anything but accrue in his back account, Rodney probably has more overall.
Well, Rodney can patent a lot of stuff unlike Daniel, who's limited to lecturess and books once programm would be unveiled in 40-60 years. And in alternate reality where he was Carter's husband, he was basically Elon Mask.
Rodney does have more potential income with patents, but Daniel likely gets paid more. He's a tad more vital than Rodney, Rodney being the best at what he does, vs Daniel's best at what he does as well as one of the few who can do what he does. He can basically write his own pay check. Not to mention seniority and much better field experience.
Is McKay the best at what he does? What about Carter?
Carter is military, not civilian XD So I'm not including her in that list. But Carter is also much more well-rounded than McKay. She's just as brilliant as he is, but wiser and has more skills than just science. She's got the leadership, combat skills, piloting, etc. McKay's a lot of stuff, but all that stuff is Scientist :D
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actually Carter is closer to scientist advisor while McKay is pure blooded engineer. Vahlen and Shen, so to speak;)
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P.S.: you forgot the bonuses Daniel gets for constantly going MIA. Technically, he has the most dangerous job in SGC:D
I forgot about this exchange. I would have to say Mckay has more money in the bank, but Jackson has the higher pay rate. For Mckay and every one in Atlantis, their pay has been piling up in a bank account. They cant spend any earth money in the Pegasus galaxy. I think he told his sister when wanted to give a gift to his sisters kid while she was at Atlantis "Its not like we a have a Toys R Us around here." As for Jackson his pay has got have gone up. He is one of the only civilians that the military would listen to and let run the SGC or a SGC ship in space. Being a member of SG1 has got to be a strange thing in the military of that earth. He can boss almost anyone around save for a general and the president and get away with it. Plus for both of them, no matter what normal people (non SGC people) think of them now... history will place them very high in famous people. In 100 years high school kids will have to write papers on them.
Depressingly, I think Canada is one of the only places that has a TRU at this point? I know, I was at mine till we locked the doors and turned off the lights back in 2018.
I feel like Daniel should at least get whatever the Ancient equivilant of Airline Miles is 😂
the chuckle that was caused by reading this almost made me swallow a curly fry, great
I mean, Daniel does have several years seniority on the Star Gate program over Rodney, although I don't know if contractors' pay increases over the years
I don't know, but I'm sure there would be negotiations about his pay over the years. He does have pretty unique skill sets.
Daniel was my favorite character for a long time, until Rodney took over, this was a fun episode for fans like me.
It really was. They have a very nice dynamic with each other
Rodney is a treasure
"Do you get paid more than I do?"
Depends on if he gets paid in AMD and you get paid in CAD, Rodney.
Gr8 scene
If daniel still requires pay im electing a new president. If the man asks for something give it to him
"wait, you get paid?"
How many people can read egyptian and ancient, supply short + high demand = high price
Daniel should've replaced Elizabeth
I don't agree. I think Sam was a good choice.
But, I wish Dr. Weir had _resigned_ from the Stargate program, so she could go the Replicators and use her skills as a diplomat to try to hammer out some kind of treaty of alliance between them and the Earth Humans.
It would be consistent with her character, and nobody would have to have died.
@@TheNoiseySpectator Weir definitely deserved better than she got. They also didn't need to kill both Carson and Elizabeth for "shock value" cuz they thought the show might be ending. I never liked Sam in the show, but I also though Daniel and Elizabeth were more alike in skills (diplomats, etc) and Daniel deserved to see more of Atlantis than he did 🤷🏽♀️
@@doraliciamendoza4859 I never found out Dr. Weir's ultimate fate.
I don't have pay T.V. so the last I saw of her, she was sitting with The Replicators, cloaked from the Atlantis team, and the Atlantis team had just done _something_ big and spectacular, and the Replicators said they were done, and Dr. Weir said "Good. Now we can begin".
I assume we found out what that was all about in the seasons that were only shown on cable.
May I ask you to what _did_ ultimately happen to Dr. Weir?
@@TheNoiseySpectator Oh I'm sorry! So, what ended up happening with her was the group of replicators she was with all tried to ascend, but they just ended up losing their physical bodies and just kinda floated around space as code. So Weir infiltrated Atlantis, built herself a body, and her replicator group followed. She asked if they could work on a machine to make them _human_ bodies so they could actually ascend, and the team decided to trust them. Except, one replicator had a screw loose and tried to mess with Atlantis, and Weir killed him. The team and Woolsey, who was leader at the time, figured it would be safer if they worked on an offworld planet. Well, they dial the gate and send the replicators through and it just leads to open space, so they all froze as soon as they went through. I'm so sorry for the long answer but the whole thing makes me mad because Weir deserved a happier ending.
@@doraliciamendoza4859 Oh, you don't have to be _sorry_ , I knew the explanation would be somewhat lengthy.
And you need not be _mad_ about it. It is a T.V. show. But, I can understand you being disappointed, I am too.
Well... Before they established contact with Earth, did they actually get paid? And even then, do they get paid? For what?
They are military contractors. Private contractors. They would get a pretty paycheck. Rodney did buy his sister a car.
of course they get paid, and it probably is basically salary pay, direct deposit into an account on earth, just keeps adding up while they are on missions.
Soldiers abroad also get paid and use this money when they return or to feed their families back home.
since they are civilian they could have a contract, but these usually use military contract like for security, and companies like boeing. i dont know about individuals.
Even when they left they were still under contract. but their families and or banks were what was accruing the pay. Which would be released upon survival or their official death
It's quite obvious, that Daniel deserves much better pay than Meredith, and he should not be surprised. After all, Jackson is in Stargate Command basically from the beginning, and his contribution to Program, and Earth's safety is much, much larger than McKay's.
I'll agree with you on the first point, but it's iffy on the second. Daniel and Rodney offer different skill sets to the program. Rodney's tends to be more 'direct' with his tech and design, while Daniel gives a lot of Soft Skill/Knowledge that is also required to keep the program functional in the greater galaxy.
@@Dusxio Pay grade is all about how long you work in company, and how much you achieved there. So Rodney still is far behind Daniel.
Like they do their jobs for the money or recognition.
Jackson travels to other world's.
Makay lives in Atlantis, which was once on Earth and is a spaceship, created by the Ancients themselves.
Son...he's Daniel Jackson. Of course he gets paid more than you. The only one who doesn't get paid less than him is Jack O'Neill.
XD It would be criminal otherwise.
Their pay may be close due to the fact that Daniel stayed as a civilian contractor and Rodney is employed by the IOA. But in terms of bragging rights, Rodney got nothing on Daniel. I mean Daniel has an Intergalactic Warship named after him built by one of the most advanced alien civilizations ever known. Though blowing up a solar system is cool too I guess. 😂
Daniel was critical in unlocking the Stargate along with all sorts of Goa'uld, Ancient, Asgard, and other alien technologies. He had vast practical knowledge of the universe after ascending (twice) and being telepathically enlightened (a few times). He had a glorious warship named after him. He did Important Stuff which saved Earth and other worlds (numerous times).
But in the end, what really mattered was that Daniel could handle himself with competence, professionalism, and dignity. While Rodney was arrogant, would giggle like a teenager when you put a gun into his hand, and would scream like a girl when you pointed one at him.
Carter did it first when she and her father took out Vorash's sun. McKay was playing catchup 😂
He was there from the start, of course he makes more money.
He also has higher seniority because of how long he has been with the program.
But he is a civilian, not military so pay rank does not apply.
@@IIGrayfoxII - wrong.
There is a pay grade for civilians. Jackson, because of his degrees and language skills would be making as much as a colonial to start and every year he would get a cost of living raise called steps.
So after 5 years he would still make his base pay (as a colonial) plus 4 steps giving him more money. That shows his seniority as well. The only ones who would put rank him and be his superior are those who make more money than him.
Meaning if a new guy comes along and is
Making the pay of a General with no years of experience, he is the new guy, he would out rank Jackson.
That though is not the case. He is at the top of seniority and the only ones over him are O’Neil and Hammond. Because they out rank him based on their rank and time in service. Which is shown in the pay.
It’s a complicated system to those who do not live it.
I do, and I still have problems with new people till I find out their seniority.
Their pay probably equals out, but Daniel probably has a higher pay grade, while Rodney has more hours.
That's actually a fair assessment. Probably has a bigger 'hazard pay' bonus too considering he lives in an active warzone rather than just enters them.
How much are they paid?
I EAT MAGNETS!!
I wonder what sort of end-of-year bonuses you get for saving the world lol
I think since the Airforce pays for their meals and healthcare, I doubt they'd have any other expenses than apartment rent or mortgage and the occasional shopping. And pretty sure the Airforce would be paying them as "contractors" under black ops budget so the pay would surely be good.
They are rolling in money XD
I have a vague memory of Daniel being offered 1 million dollars in the first movie. Doesn't mean my memory is correct and I believe it was for funding. But he definitely got offered a lot of money, it would make sense that if anyone was getting paid more it would be Dr Jackson.
Definitely does. He's been with them from before SGC was a real thing. And even his time 'dead' got more information for the organization XD
For the money... was that a Disney’s Atlantis reference?
Disneys Atlantis made a reference to stargate.
Milo was giving a lecture, he was laughed at.
Even the A was a rip of stargates A,
"Probably could've won Nobel prize five times over by now.
No you do it for the money."
Wait when u get Nobel u also get a check right?
Yes but Rodney never got that Nobel prize, so no check either.
Rudy Bleeker yes but then he’d be doing it for the money anyways.
Yes because of course the USAF are going to say 'ok, you saved the world' or 'ok you discovered it, you should get paid more'
If this was even in the realm of realistic Daniel 'might' get paid more for length of time with the SGC as key personnel but Rodney also has length of service and now is in charge of an entire department.
Then you have to wonder how much does teal,c get paid
I like the comments are about the show but I like to think it's about the actors pay
Why didn't Atlantic have any AI? Or did it and I never heard about it? I mean, we don't have zpm's or stargates but we have wolfram beta and military AI which can just about pass the Turing test
I got two answers for you.
1 - The city is implied to have a low interaction AI or awareness that adapts to the users/residents. The books expand on it more to make the city almost alive in a way.
2 - They might have sworn off full AIs after the replicators split off.
@@Dusxio They probably swore off of full AI a lot longer ago as we never actually find any Ancient AI tech. Even the Replicators aren't true AI as they still work within fairly narrow boundries.
@@thehighground3630 Don't forget the Atlantis replicators. Those are full AIs. And the Milky Way replicators eventually developed their own AIs such as Sixth.
But it does seem that AI technology just wasn't one they invested a lot of research into.
@@Dusxio do you have any quotes that say they are a full AI? Their programming always seemed rather limited.
@@thehighground3630 What do you define as limited? It's no so much limited as it's 'focused'. Sixth in the milky way, Replicarter, and the Pegasus Replicator characters that got air time all presented as fully sapient until the Atlantis time hijacked their programming to make them target the wraith again, and even then they were still intelligent about it. FRAN is the most limited AI replicator we've seen and she's the only one made by humans, and even then she had her own personality and was more like a child.
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I loved this episode on the first watch, but repeat viewings led to it bugging me a lot.
Daniel is formerly ascended has perfect natural understanding of Ancient as a language. Inside and out. Why does he need Rodney to translate anything for him?
I get it's Stargate Atlantis, and Rodney is the star of this one while Jackson is just a guest star, but come on.
I feel part of it is the Technical aspect. Daniel isn't in the physics and engineering fields. He's picked up a lot sure, but Rodney thrives in it. Then just the overall Teamwork aspect. Two sets of eyes are better than one perspective.
@@Dusxio Oh, don't get me wrong, I don't doubt Rodney should be there. But there are scenes where Rodney is literally translating text on a screen that Daniel is 100% fluent in to Daniel. It makes no sense. It's like Daniel is humouring Rodney's enormous ego by letting him mansplain stuff he obviously already understands perfectly.
@@tyrannicpuppy To be fair... Daniel totally would humour Rodney like that. Both to ease conflict at the moment, and for the private kick of it XD Just think back to Window of Opportunity and 'Maybe he read your report?' Daniel's a passive troll XD
I figured it is the technical aspect as well. When he and Carter were out of phase with Merlin's device he made a comment about that before they found the gate address.
Daniel doesn't get paid as much as Rodney. With all that happens to Daniel - can you actually conceive his payroll being anything but chaotic?
I don't see why any of them need money. Outside of the SGC/Atlantis, sure, but when has any of them left base for long? When on base the SG teams get all they need, food, water, sleep and medical care, all for free.
The same can be said for any military person on active deployment. But there are four major reasons.
- They still need to pay for their homes, cars, bills, etc while employed.
- While they might have quarters on base, not everyone stays on the base all the time. Teal'c tried living off base for a while, and we have seen Jack, Sam and Daniel at home.
- You don't necessarily work for the SGC your entire life. A lot of people in the show made a career of it sure, but some are only their for a while. You'll need money when you're done.
- Many have families who need support.
@@Nysythic Well... Working for no pay but having all your needs met? Sounds kind of familiar...
Hehe, I can see the free medical care now. "Dr. Jackson, unfortunately you picked up an alien parasite on your last mission. Fotunelty, this alien energy device (which we spent a billions dollars to discover) can remove it. Also you have prostate cancer... do you have insurance?"
@@MrCCollins1993 Dude had to ascend to a higher plane of existence to get that cancer treated and all those medical Bill's settled.
So you never plan on retiring?
Rodney Mckay was the worst thing to happen to SGA. imagine how much better the show would have been with a character that was actually likable or had at least one redeeming quality.
I ship it? It's weird seeing two bottoms together like this.
Did you mean "Brothers" instead of "Bottoms"? 😒
bruh
The Noisy Spectator pretty sure the weeb meant bottoms