I was able to do this move and I didn't know how I did it. It was by accident while i was trying to pass the guard. This video explains it very well so now I understand this. I'll use this and try the different variations. Thank you, Marcos!
@@living_with_intent Sensie please watch Gary Goodridge using a very similar technique Awesome .thank you for sharing you expertise and teaching and coaching Bjj i have only just come across your channel its AWESOME stay blessed from the U.K ua-cam.com/video/zlgNKJDp0vU/v-deo.htmlsi=-GlPqXosAKJ9pe7W
So dope! I can't wait to try this in class! I usually do a knee split. I have long arms and legs, so popping peoples' feet apart while still kneeling is no problem, but the actual pass once they are open is always a pain. I like the idea of this Strong Pass because it appears you always have complete control.
I've been using this for about six months with a 90% submission rate as a white belt.... nobody sees you coming with this…. That is until Professor teaches the counter to this and now my Jiu Jitsu sucks again. 🤣🥋
I can pass like a BOSS with this one…. That is until Professor teaches everyone the counter to this and now I’m back to being a pathetic newbie struggling to stay alive. 🥋🤣
That´s great. Marcos you know a lot of details. I wish I had a dedicated teacher like you when I started as a white belt. My old professor is a black belt with many stripes but he has no clue about teaching so in depth.
This is awesome! I am always grabbing the arm and putting under the back but often getting stuck during the pass. These details are going to help out a lot.
Been using this pass (or at least my personal spin on it) for over 10 years now. Definitely my favorite way to crack a touch closed guard. I like the little details you show and will be trying to incorporate them next time the chance comes up.
This is exactly why your channel has become my favorite jiu Jitsu library, the different variations, emphasis on details, and keeping the technique simple make all the difference. Thank you for your great content 🤙
I go for this all the time but i cant reach to grab their arm sometimes under them. Found this video and realized I was missing the part where you walk to cut the angle. Thank you oss!
chicking wing (respect to PRIDE FIGHTING CHAMPIONCHIP LEGEND GARY GOODRIDGE)who did a version of this move but he used strikes and knocked out his opponent who only had one arm defence against his looping strike bombs this was shortly after shouting out loud as his opponent stuck him shouting "not enough, childs play" then Boom he let go some looping bombs against his opponent whos arm was trapped . Very smart technique i love it. Stay blessed from the uk Amen
Just learned this and my success rate is about 90 percent. Its awesome. One dude was like, "oh not this again." Lol. I love the fake sweep into the Kimura finish. Epic!!
Hey absolutely love this channel only found it the other day. I have a question from an experience from what happened to me, when leaning over to elevate my hips to pass my arm through to grip his sleeve. The person used there free arm to put me in a headlock and finish. Is there anyway I can stop this? Thankyou 🙏
Absolutely lean with the shoulder into the person stomach or with the head in the center line of their body, so you block them from guilhotine you. Does this make sense? Thank you for watching
OSS! Professor. That sleeve detail is what I was missing. I kept hip switching and still finding myself trapped in guard. Thank you for the tip as always, OSS!
I used to use this all the time when I fought MMA. I use it a lot now too but not as much I'm going to bring it back today at practice . I also show the person on bottom getting oma Plata. Love the channel
Thank you so much really I am here to help all of you in bjj thank you for watching BIG OSS please support the channel liking the videos and share with your friend much appreciate
Parabéns amigo, antes de ver o vídeo já dou like, e ao final se tivesse mais opções daria novamente. Gosto de ver a explicação de vários professores da mesma posição e essa com certeza uma das melhores, mesmo falando inglês, inglês de brasileiro dá pra entender 90% kkkkk, e a explicação 100%.
I'm adding this to my game and will try it the next time I'm in class. I will film, post it and give credit to you when I can get it. Thank you sir! This is awesome...
This is great pass, I'll try. Thank you But I don't see this pass on UA-cam. If this is the one of the best passes, why don't many passer do this? What can the guarder do against this pass?
In my opinion (I would like to hear Marcos'), Sao Paulo passes are VERY skill-based. When I try to pass closed guard by standing up: if I make a mistake, I can use my agility, athleticism, I can scramble to try to recover. When I try to pass closed guard with a Sao Paulo pass, my fundamentals HAVE to be better than theirs. My base has to be better, my frames have to be better. If I have more speed and agility, but I make a mistake, I'm in BIG trouble. I think most passers don't use this in the adult division at black belt, both because everyone is so quick, and everyone is so close in skill to each other. Guarder can attack offbalances, armbars, triangles, and omoplatas against the passer. I really like attacking with the Sao Paulo pass to test my fundamentals against my opponent. Also sometimes I get tired of standing up a lot hahaha
@@johnkoven3019 Thank you so much. I understand it. Today, I tried this pass but my base is not good enough to keep standing. I'll practice it. thank you
Amazing variations! I struggle a lot getting out of the guard and somehow breaking the guard with the traditional methods doesn't work for me. Thx a lot I will definitely try these
Great appreciation! A question:Sao Paulo hammer pass shows the head posting on on opponent left shoulder when going tripod and walk to right to get hold of his left wrist control. Your way is to post head on opponent’s right side. What is the difference? Any Pros and cons for the variation of posting head positions?
Surely you want to have your head on the shoulder as you said while doing this to trap the arm and avoid the obvious guillotine head lock he'll likely try to put you in. Because looking at this otherwise your asking to be head locked with his free arm (his arm must not be free to get the lock otherwise your in a spot of trouble).
Thank you for making this! This is awesome! It’s 6am on a Sunday and I want to go train right now! Lol. I’ve been training jiu jitsu so for close to a year and am almost a blue belt(!!!) and I have pretty good strength, so you think this pass will work for me when I’m rolling with black belts?
I never considered giving up the mount to get the kimura. Mindful of the success rate of the finish if they try to frame up with the free hand once I took them into my guard…🤔
Love this. Question as a beginning white belt though, when you post on your head to the opposite side does it open you to the guillotine choke? Any tips on avoiding that?
i have to make sure the person is side ways by pulling their arm under super tight, he might pass the arm over my head but wont be able to finish the guilhotine tho, give a try and let me know big oss thank you for watching
You are SUCH a wonderful instructor Professor. Can you do us all a favor? Can you PLEASE do an instructional do a vid on the N/S choke where you go over the mistakes/problems/erroneous thinking that plagues this move. I am a blue belt who is about to turn 56- so, unfortunately, speed and explosiveness aren't exactly at the core of my game. I do, however, LOVE this choke (it's my favorite by far) but 98% of the time I find myself in position, holding the choke and...unable to get the finish. I tripod. I squeeze. I move around. I grunt out loud, hoping to scare Uke into tapping 😁 but...no luck.... I am always so frustrated with myself and so dispirited that despite the fact that I act like I'm fine with it, I'm not. Oftentimes this is my ONE shot at tapping out someone better than I am- my ONE chance- and I blow it. So could you (PLEASE) go through the various scenarios of what us N/S lovers face, what we are most likely doing wrong and what we should be absolutely sure we're doing as we try to get the tap? Oh and lastly: please don't think I'm "that guy;" you know, the type of dude who tries to "win" every round, who counts his "taps' and celebrates what happens in class as if it's the Pan-Ams or whatever. I'm not at all like that and if I was it would be pretty sad as I GET tapped about 90% of the time (yes- I'm aware that I need to work on much more than just the N/S choke lol-- but since I DO somehow manage to get there occasionally, I WANNA BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY FINISH!). Anyway so yeah: please my good sir, do a N/S tutorial where the focus is on what can/will happen- what to do about various things the bottom guy is doing to save himself and lastly what the person trying to do the choke MUST be thinking about- and doing- as he/she attempts to actually finish the move rather than just hold some kind of crappy, frustrating, stalemate-type pin while the bottom guy moves around and often times escapes even THAT! Uggghhhhhh! Thanks again, Professor. You have an AWESOME channel and you are a natural teacher!
first of all thank you for all that haha i will do my best. i will work on NS choke, its schedule to show up anytime on the channel..but my humble opinion for you is learn how to let people move around without let them go completely, this will help you understand more bjj and submit them BIG OSS
Just the fact that you can dominate people twice your size or half your age should be motivation enough... how long have you've been training and how often do you get on the mat?
I did this pass after watching the video. It really worked. I held thier arm behind their back pinning them down for about 4 minutes. They couldn't escape. I did end up in the position where i had them in fulll guard and hand behind their back but could get them to tap. Persons arm was pretty flexible. My professor told me afterwards while i was in 50/50 with my opponents arm behind their back i could have used my free arm to do a modified cross choke. Could you make a video or have already a video doing a choke from that position?
What if the man on the bottom attack with the guilotine? He does not even need another hand to lock it when having the gi. If he extends fast with the whole body the man on the top will either tap or let go of the trapped hand.
he can try but he wont go much far because his bottom arm is trapped and for he to finish the guilhotine he need to turn to the side of my head, does that make sense?
🔷How do you Guys like to pass From Closed Guard?
I was able to do this move and I didn't know how I did it. It was by accident while i was trying to pass the guard. This video explains it very well so now I understand this. I'll use this and try the different variations. Thank you, Marcos!
@@living_with_intent Sensie please watch Gary Goodridge using a very similar technique Awesome .thank you for sharing you expertise and teaching and coaching Bjj i have only just come across your channel its AWESOME stay blessed from the U.K ua-cam.com/video/zlgNKJDp0vU/v-deo.htmlsi=-GlPqXosAKJ9pe7W
So dope! I can't wait to try this in class! I usually do a knee split. I have long arms and legs, so popping peoples' feet apart while still kneeling is no problem, but the actual pass once they are open is always a pain. I like the idea of this Strong Pass because it appears you always have complete control.
Eu chego a essa situação de segurar o punho do adversário, por trás, com muita frequência. Mas ficava sem saber como terminar a passagem.
Minha passagem preferida ! Pouco risco de tomar raspagem .
I've been using this for about six months with a 90% submission rate as a white belt.... nobody sees you coming with this…. That is until Professor teaches the counter to this and now my Jiu Jitsu sucks again. 🤣🥋
Amazing BIG OSS
Try it on me
Ok, great to read this comment. I need to learn some for next roll
Thanks Greg! I will learn this. Thank you sir.
I can pass like a BOSS with this one…. That is until Professor teaches everyone the counter to this and now I’m back to being a pathetic newbie struggling to stay alive. 🥋🤣
1 year into BJJ and I've been struggling with guard passing, I tried this today in practice and it worked like a charm🎉 thanks!!
San Paulo Pass
Variation 1:
1:52 Explanation
5:58 demo
Variation 2:
6:44 Explanation
7:52 Demo
Variation 3
10:10 Explanation
11:31 Demo
Marcos is the best teacher I have ever met. Thank you!!!!
I trained with Marcos at MG academy. He’s an fierce competitor, a great teacher and a nice person. Oss Marcos. Miss u bud.
That´s great. Marcos you know a lot of details. I wish I had a dedicated teacher like you when I started as a white belt. My old professor is a black belt with many stripes but he has no clue about teaching so in depth.
This is awesome! I am always grabbing the arm and putting under the back but often getting stuck during the pass. These details are going to help out a lot.
A great technique. I’ve been doing it for years. Super slick. Thank you.
Been using this pass (or at least my personal spin on it) for over 10 years now. Definitely my favorite way to crack a touch closed guard. I like the little details you show and will be trying to incorporate them next time the chance comes up.
This is exactly why your channel has become my favorite jiu Jitsu library, the different variations, emphasis on details, and keeping the technique simple make all the difference. Thank you for your great content 🤙
Thank you for watching and support the channel BIG OSS
I go for this all the time but i cant reach to grab their arm sometimes under them.
Found this video and realized I was missing the part where you walk to cut the angle.
Thank you oss!
This is one of the best coaching videos I have seen! Do glad I found it!
Thank you for putting this content online. Grateful!
Fantastic coach. Best jiu jitsu channel on the internet. Details are amazing. Now I must rep all three.
I appreciate that! BIG OSS thank you for watching
I love this one.. it’s a go to pass .. thank you OSS!
yes its super strong thank you for watching BIG OSS
Yes sir! Exactly the finish I’ve been doing for 25 years. This is good stuff! Subscribed! 🤙
You know it's top shelf when Coach Brian subscribes to your channel. 👊🥋 OSS!!!
Coach B, hope you're good. How would you modify this for nogi please? Thanks.
@@London2ATL it’s almost exactly the same except you just start by grabbing the wrist.
💯💯
This is a very old school technique. Classic 👍
Love this technique and your explanation of it. Thank you.
BIG ISS thank you for watching
Show, o interessante e que a 20 anos atrás eu fazia está mesma, passagem de guarda, o tempo passou o Jiu-jítsu evoluiu mas a essência e a mesma!
e daqui a 20 anos vai ser a mesma passagem quem fizer mas passar a guarda de todos haha BIG OSS
I used this a fair bit but this was so much more detail and a better pass than what I thought
chicking wing (respect to PRIDE FIGHTING CHAMPIONCHIP LEGEND GARY GOODRIDGE)who did a version of this move but he used strikes and knocked out his opponent who only had one arm defence against his looping strike bombs this was shortly after shouting out loud as his opponent stuck him shouting "not enough, childs play" then Boom he let go some looping bombs against his opponent whos arm was trapped . Very smart technique i love it. Stay blessed from the uk Amen
Very good, thank you
Excellent instruction. Thank you.
Such great detail! I’m really happy I found this. It might be a game changer! OSS
💯 try and let me know how that works for you BIG OSS thank you for watching
Just learned this and my success rate is about 90 percent. Its awesome. One dude was like, "oh not this again." Lol. I love the fake sweep into the Kimura finish. Epic!!
Hey absolutely love this channel only found it the other day. I have a question from an experience from what happened to me, when leaning over to elevate my hips to pass my arm through to grip his sleeve. The person used there free arm to put me in a headlock and finish. Is there anyway I can stop this? Thankyou 🙏
Absolutely lean with the shoulder into the person stomach or with the head in the center line of their body, so you block them from guilhotine you. Does this make sense? Thank you for watching
Maestro!! I used this since a blue belt and still works good!
Its Mestre in Portuguese, not Maestro, just an FYI :)
@@paulsacramento5995 I don’t speak Portuguese my original language is Spanish. I text “maestro” in Spanish. But, thanks for the correction.
OSS! Professor. That sleeve detail is what I was missing. I kept hip switching and still finding myself trapped in guard. Thank you for the tip as always, OSS!
Thank you. As a close guard player this is good to know lol
Thank you so much for the video! I forgot about tripod guard passes! Thank you so much! Much respect
I used to use this all the time when I fought MMA. I use it a lot now too but not as much I'm going to bring it back today at practice . I also show the person on bottom getting oma Plata. Love the channel
Thank you for watching yes works great, I will show in NoGi as well soon here BIG OSS
I found your channel the other day . Loving your style of teaching and learned so much. I’ve watched every single one of your videos.
Thank you so much really I am here to help all of you in bjj thank you for watching BIG OSS please support the channel liking the videos and share with your friend much appreciate
This is fantastic! ❤ thank you!
My favorite channel I was able to pull this off tonight thank you
Awesome this what I am talking about, BIG OSS thank you for the trust 🙌🙏
Smooth! So much detail! thank you!
Thank you for watching now go there and use BIG OSS
this channel is amazing!!
So good! Can't wait to try this next time on the mat. Thank you!
Parabéns amigo, antes de ver o vídeo já dou like, e ao final se tivesse mais opções daria novamente. Gosto de ver a explicação de vários professores da mesma posição e essa com certeza uma das melhores, mesmo falando inglês, inglês de brasileiro dá pra entender 90% kkkkk, e a explicação 100%.
Que bom que gostou meu amigo mesmo com meu inglês horrível BIG OSS
Has anyone uploaded how to break the grip or defend this?
Thanks for sharing! This is super helpful, will try it in the next class. Big oss!
Obrigado profesor!
Very good staff, thank you for sharing
Any time thank you for watching all ib asking to share with subscribe to support the channel :)
I'm adding this to my game and will try it the next time I'm in class. I will film, post it and give credit to you when I can get it. Thank you sir! This is awesome...
Awesome and thank you and big OSU!💥
This is great pass, I'll try. Thank you
But I don't see this pass on UA-cam.
If this is the one of the best passes, why don't many passer do this?
What can the guarder do against this pass?
In my opinion (I would like to hear Marcos'), Sao Paulo passes are VERY skill-based.
When I try to pass closed guard by standing up: if I make a mistake, I can use my agility, athleticism, I can scramble to try to recover.
When I try to pass closed guard with a Sao Paulo pass, my fundamentals HAVE to be better than theirs. My base has to be better, my frames have to be better. If I have more speed and agility, but I make a mistake, I'm in BIG trouble.
I think most passers don't use this in the adult division at black belt, both because everyone is so quick, and everyone is so close in skill to each other.
Guarder can attack offbalances, armbars, triangles, and omoplatas against the passer.
I really like attacking with the Sao Paulo pass to test my fundamentals against my opponent. Also sometimes I get tired of standing up a lot hahaha
@@johnkoven3019 Thank you so much.
I understand it.
Today, I tried this pass but my base is not good enough to keep standing.
I'll practice it. thank you
Powerful details instructions. Thank you professor. Oss! 🤙
thank you for watching big oss
I hit this today :D I did not expect it to go so perfectly
thats awesome thank you for letting me know BIG OSS
wow!!!Im gonna try it in today's training!!
Please do and let me know BIG OSS
@@BIGOSS.JIU-JITSU I did it!:D I missed the submisson couz I didnt mounted on my opponent. But the whole process worked well!!! Thxagain. Oss!
haha amazing another reason for you to share the channel with your friends BIG OSS thank you again
@@gekkolefty2902
I will try this on my next roll! Thank you!
Please do and let me know, thank you for watching BIG OSS
Soneca showed this one! Great details
Excelente!! Oss
I like this a lot! Gonna try this !
I’ve seen this pass, but using their Gi to lock their wrist into place. Great finish!
I love this pass I use it, in Gi and Nogi on the daily... Smooth like butter nobody sees you coming
That's a very sneaky hammer lock from the guard. Didn't realise it could be done like that.
Another simple but effective technique to add to the arsenal of guard passing. Now to drill, drill, drill until it comes naturally.
BIG OSS
Had to comeback to this gem 💎 because forgetting key details
awesome thank you!
BIG OSSSS
Amazing variations! I struggle a lot getting out of the guard and somehow breaking the guard with the traditional methods doesn't work for me. Thx a lot I will definitely try these
give a try and let me know thank you for watching big oss
Thanks for the video. Allways good helpful content.
Thank you for watching BIG OSS
Thanks for the great vid and the sneeky pass. Is it similar in nogi, only difference is the grip of the wrist instead of the gi? Thanks
yes you are 100 % right grips on the wrist, i will do a nogi version for you guys here BIG OSS thank you for watching
@@BIGOSS.JIU-JITSU Thanks for answering! Nogi is much appreciated
Man, this move is clean!
SUPER BIG OSS
thanks sensei Tinoco, i would love to train with you some day. Big Oss
Beautiful work
2 month, white belt. 2 from 3 sparrings i've done it. Very unexpected trap of the hand))
Ótima passagem ! oss
fantastic😍
amazing! from Korea
awesome BIG OSS
Big Oss!!! From Caraguatatuba!!!
Great appreciation! A question:Sao Paulo hammer pass shows the head posting on on opponent left shoulder when going tripod and walk to right to get hold of his left wrist control. Your way is to post head on opponent’s right side. What is the difference? Any Pros and cons for the variation of posting head positions?
Surely you want to have your head on the shoulder as you said while doing this to trap the arm and avoid the obvious guillotine head lock he'll likely try to put you in. Because looking at this otherwise your asking to be head locked with his free arm (his arm must not be free to get the lock otherwise your in a spot of trouble).
Very sneaky!!! 😮
I will try your moves.
you should and you will love BIG OSS
Thank you for making this! This is awesome! It’s 6am on a Sunday and I want to go train right now! Lol. I’ve been training jiu jitsu so for close to a year and am almost a blue belt(!!!) and I have pretty good strength, so you think this pass will work for me when I’m rolling with black belts?
yes it will work aganst anyone if you do this right you will get it trust me. black belt is not Invincible lol
amazing
I hope you do a video on headquarters. This is a great info 👌 A-1🎉
ua-cam.com/video/K3BVpDEZyR8/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared this might help you BIG OSS
the cameraman breathing.. now u wont unhear it ;)
hahahaha
Nice passing series, Thank you Señor 🥋👊🏼
I never considered giving up the mount to get the kimura. Mindful of the success rate of the finish if they try to frame up with the free hand once I took them into my guard…🤔
Great ju-jitsu channel
thank you so much BIG OSS
True excellence!
Love this. Question as a beginning white belt though, when you post on your head to the opposite side does it open you to the guillotine choke? Any tips on avoiding that?
i have to make sure the person is side ways by pulling their arm under super tight, he might pass the arm over my head but wont be able to finish the guilhotine tho, give a try and let me know big oss thank you for watching
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Love this! Professor got PH.D in jiujutsu❤
Should do a series on butterfly guard, that's what I'm currently working on lol
What are you looking exactly? Big Oss
@@BIGOSS.JIU-JITSU anything sweeps, taking back, x guard and single x entries
Great pass
Any tips on how to defend the sub once stuck the in the closed guard position
You are SUCH a wonderful instructor Professor. Can you do us all a favor? Can you PLEASE do an instructional do a vid on the N/S choke where you go over the mistakes/problems/erroneous thinking that plagues this move. I am a blue belt who is about to turn 56- so, unfortunately, speed and explosiveness aren't exactly at the core of my game. I do, however, LOVE this choke (it's my favorite by far) but 98% of the time I find myself in position, holding the choke and...unable to get the finish.
I tripod. I squeeze. I move around. I grunt out loud, hoping to scare Uke into tapping 😁 but...no luck....
I am always so frustrated with myself and so dispirited that despite the fact that I act like I'm fine with it, I'm not. Oftentimes this is my ONE shot at tapping out someone better than I am- my ONE chance- and I blow it.
So could you (PLEASE) go through the various scenarios of what us N/S lovers face, what we are most likely doing wrong and what we should be absolutely sure we're doing as we try to get the tap?
Oh and lastly: please don't think I'm "that guy;" you know, the type of dude who tries to "win" every round, who counts his "taps' and celebrates what happens in class as if it's the Pan-Ams or whatever. I'm not at all like that and if I was it would be pretty sad as I GET tapped about 90% of the time (yes- I'm aware that I need to work on much more than just the N/S choke lol-- but since I DO somehow manage to get there occasionally, I WANNA BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY FINISH!).
Anyway so yeah: please my good sir, do a N/S tutorial where the focus is on what can/will happen- what to do about various things the bottom guy is doing to save himself and lastly what the person trying to do the choke MUST be thinking about- and doing- as he/she attempts to actually finish the move rather than just hold some kind of crappy, frustrating, stalemate-type pin while the bottom guy moves around and often times escapes even THAT! Uggghhhhhh!
Thanks again, Professor. You have an AWESOME channel and you are a natural teacher!
first of all thank you for all that haha i will do my best. i will work on NS choke, its schedule to show up anytime on the channel..but my humble opinion for you is learn how to let people move around without let them go completely, this will help you understand more bjj and submit them BIG OSS
Fascinating, and effective. Any tips on staying motivated in jiu-jitsu?
Just the fact that you can dominate people twice your size or half your age should be motivation enough... how long have you've been training and how often do you get on the mat?
I use the lapel to do this pass to then chain into another attack
If you use the wrist you will never miss this pass BIG OSS thank you for watching
I did this pass after watching the video. It really worked. I held thier arm behind their back pinning them down for about 4 minutes. They couldn't escape. I did end up in the position where i had them in fulll guard and hand behind their back but could get them to tap. Persons arm was pretty flexible. My professor told me afterwards while i was in 50/50 with my opponents arm behind their back i could have used my free arm to do a modified cross choke. Could you make a video or have already a video doing a choke from that position?
Bro thank you ❤
Great ❤
How am I supposed to remember all this!?!! BJJ frightens me!
Reps
brigado!
BIG OSSSS thank you
big oss! :)
You know it! BIG OSS
What if the man on the bottom attack with the guilotine? He does not even need another hand to lock it when having the gi. If he extends fast with the whole body the man on the top will either tap or let go of the trapped hand.
he can try but he wont go much far because his bottom arm is trapped and for he to finish the guilhotine he need to turn to the side of my head, does that make sense?
How much would the pinning arm grip change in No GI??
I think with the grip on the wrist would work super well. I will do a video On NOGI VERSION BIG OSS
@@BIGOSS.JIU-JITSU thank-you so much for your great content!!
big oss🤜🤛
maybe your best tip for blue belt
Wow. ❤
Thank you sensai...
BIG OSSSS
nice, but more impressive would be showing a counter to this pass once the arm gets pinned.