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2X6 Sliders on a Jeep Cherokee XJ
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2020
- In this video I install 2x6 tube in place of the rocker panel on my 1998 Jeep Cherokee Xj. I removed the round tube style sliders in place of much stronger sliders. This also gained me a little more ground clearance with the body.
I had some help with the install
I used Pennsylvania Steel pasteel.com/ for my steel.
I also ordered some Steel It from TMR customs www.tmrcustoms...
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Probably one of the best videos I’ve watched that shows the details on how to make the pieces that tie into the unibody
Thank you . I wanted to show the entire process to let people know what they would be getting into.
I love that you talk about the little details in your projects👍👍👍
Thank you!!!
Michigan here. Just did the floor pan on the drivers side and several other small patches. Doing the rockers now. A little differently, but it will be much stronger than the swiss cheese it was before
Awesome!! This mod is still one of my favorites. Let me know how it turns out.
Excellent detail. You saved me a lot of "engineering on the fly"...
Your welcome. Thanks for watching!
Authentic. Always more work then people think. I’m going to skip trying to weld on the rocker - there’s nothing to tie to. Good to go with the brackets,. Great Job!
Thank you!
Dude thank you so much for the idea on the supports I was thinking the same thing in the beginning but your solution is the best, I’m going to use it for sure on my sliders which will also be the base of my roll cage. Thanks!
Glad I can help. Good luck on yours
A Whalers Shirt!! OK. I’ll watch.👍
Hell yes!! The whalers were awesome.
Great video Mark! Definitely beefy rock-sliders. ❤️🐞
Thanks Bug!!
This video definitely shows how much of passion you have for this Jeep. Well done sir!
Nice job Mark.Those should hold up a lot better than the old sliders,and they look better too...
Thanks Dan. I've already laid them down on some rocks. They are vastly better than the other ones I had.
Sucks dealing with old, thin metal. But, you got it done. Should serve their purpose well. LOVE those brackets you were able to fab up. Great job!!
Thanks man! I appreciate it
Awesome video man. You are doing everything I plan on doing soon. Your videos will help alot thank you
You're very welcome. Still plenty more to come.
Love the Hartford Whalers tee shirt
Hell ya. Season ticket holder for about 8 years
Nice job mark a++ craftmanship
Thanks Michael. I hope to keep getting better.
im doing all this rn as well, gotta love that michigan rust.
They are a nice upgrade and they should hold up better to the salt and winters. Are you going to support them with brackets off the unibody?
@@FMJeeping not sure yet, just got the floor pans, inner and outer rockers 2 days ago. Gonna throw on the inners and floorpans and wing it from there. Floors were not the plan originally, was doing a 4.0 rebuild and bay paint, have everything and i mean everything removed but the rear axle atm cause i had a fuck it moment. and thanks! I didnt know where to get that square tubing, that place is not to far from me.
Yes, I like them too !
Thank you!
I love that you didn’t even bother washing it first 😂
Iirc. I think I did. But there was so much mud and dirt. I didn't get it all
Ok, I went back and watched. Lol. I completely didn't wash it. Lol
@@FMJeeping 😂😂
I have been working on this project all summer, rabbit hole of floor pans, now rear shackle buckets have collapsed. Installed Hooligan Frame stiffeners mid and rear, and Rusty's rear shackle buckets. Then I will get on the floor pans, and finally the sliders I am going with 2x8.
It's funny you said the rear leaf spring buckets. I have a video coming out soon about a partial solution for those. Sounds like you have your hands full. XJ life.
@@FMJeeping thrown tons of welds at it so far, coming back together though.
@@Aracnacon1 I never welded until I owned my XJ. Needless to say, I've gotten a lot of practice since. Lol. Keep up the good fight
I've gotta do the same thing.
Next step: tubular fender flare.
I agree. I need a bender. I really want to do tube doors as well. I've got some big things coming though where I should probably hold off on fenders. I might make them and then a few months later have to do them all over again. But I eventually want some fenders.
I really want to do that too!
I must say your front Drivers side tire is sticking out of the Wheel Well much more then the Passenger side. I think you should have a Line up done. The Higher you lift the Jeep the more the Track Bar tends to pull the front Axle to the Drivers side. My Jeep XJ is just a Street ride but i put new springs in the front to lift it 2 inches and had to install a New Adjustable Track Bar in it and had a Professional 4 Wheel Line up done. Something is going on with that front Axle or could be just a bad lower Ball Joint on the Drivers side, it's hard to say but it's just something about that Wheel. I can see it when you have the Jeep in the Driveway behind you as your talking. Live and Learn i went to a Trade School for Metal Fab. from Grade 8 to 12 and was a Structural Ship Fitter for about 20 yr.'s Retired now and i'm still Learning. Look's like your doing a Good Job to me wish i had your get up and go mine got up and went lol.
Nice observation. I'm maxing out the ability of my current trac bar. I have been for some time. I am currently building a set of axles and will be completely redoing the trac bar setup. The current setup is more for light duty use and I can tell it flexes too much when I wheel. Nice catch.
Great video man. Gives me some ideas for mine
Thanks man . I can't wait for Ziptie to be crushing the trail.
FMJeeping you and me both brother
Are you welding the sheet metal with gas or innershield? Best is with gas and thin wire like .020 trying to weld it with .030 which would be good for your structural steel is hard. Welding thin metal to thick metal in general is tricky. Anyways looks good I think I'll put some on my jeep
I tried using .025 solid which is generally the smallest my machine can use. In hindsight I could have cut long and folded the metal over (like a lip) and hammer it flat to double the thickness .
Very good job 👍👍👍👍👌
Thank you
Maybe I missed it but what did you do about the front fender just kind of hanging where you cut it
I left the fender long on the bottom and bent it up behind making a little tab I could bolt it to the inner fender
Yo bud. Was thinking about doin this with my rig. I appreciate you putting this video out for us to watch. I have a couple questions for ya if that’s ok.
How did the welds hold? Touch any rocks with them yet?
Did you have mig hooked up to 220? Or 110?
How did it do burning into the 3/16?
Thanks in advance for your time! Happy wheeling!
The welds hold fine. I've put the whole rig's weight on them. The sliders are tied into the pinch seam, other parts of the body and then the unibody.
I have 220. It burned the 3/16 easily. A 140 can do this project. You will have to turn up the heat a little bit.
Anything else I can help you with?
FMJeeping not at the moment brother. Thanks for the reply. Got a sub from me. I’m sure we’ll talk again soon.
Have a good one. Keep up the good work with filming. I know it’s not easy. Tons of work! Haha
@@NYZOutdoors thank you very much. Hit me up if needed. Let me know how it turns out.
Thanks for your videos! They inspire me to do all the mods on my xj myself. I just finished replacing alle the floorboards and am now ready to do the sliders. Just one question. It looks like you welded the top of the slider onto the body of the jeep. Did you leave the bottom open?
I did stich in on the bottom where I could. A lot of the metal was gone, but I was able to put a few small welds on the pinch seam and hold it to the 2*6.
@@FMJeeping ill try that! Not looking forward welding the thin material while laying on the floor. Haha. Thanks again.
@@silboersma4774 I hear that. The sheet metal in that area is so thin. I stress myself out in that area. I haven't dialed in my ability to weld the thing stuff to the thick stuff very well yet.
You defeated the point of a slider with your mounts unless you are going to plate them! They are now huge trolling hooks for rocks!
I am planning to plate the mounts once I get the cage installed. I want to be able to access those mounts easily.
What angles did you cut and what is the total length
I cut the angles in the 2*4 tube as supports for the 2*6 sliders. The sliders are 64" in total length.
I just got done with frame stiffeners and replacing the rocker panels with 2x6. I went with 1/4" wall tube and made supports out of 3/16" 2x6. I also did 4 supports. I think it turned out really well and it should hold up really well. How are your's holding up?
Sweet ! I just thought that 1/4 would be much heavier. The 3/16 on my 2*6 was just right. I know a lot of people run 1/4 and do just fine. So far my 3/16ths rockers are great. I've been hammering on them a bunch and they have a couple of scrapes but are still solid
@@FMJeeping yeah i was going for indestructible and i like knowing its at strong as it can be.
@@ProjectXJ I think you got indestructible.
hard to weld uphill
Yes it is. It something that takes practice for sure
Good biuld . Does this cause any issues with the body being welded now to the frame. When i biult a custom cage for my cj several people said dont weld the body to the cage where i went through the body into the frame because it could Torque the body out of shape and cause problems with doors and things not lining up even had one guy tell me that could crack the windshield. I see this 2x6 rocker thing all over so just wondering . Anyone has a answer i'd appreciate it
Adding cages and 2*6 rockers will actually strengthen the body. I can tell you it was a night and day difference with just stiffeners. I was able to flex out and open my doors and hatch. Before the stiffeners, I wasn't able to do that. The cage and the rock sliders stiffen the chassis. I was told that welding cages to frames is safer and stronger than bodies or tubs. The bodies flex more than the frame. Which is why there are bushings between the frame and the tub.
@@FMJeeping yes i agree also i didn't realize that the jk is a unibody. So the frame is the body. Its my sons jeep. I think this is exactly what he needs. I ended up tying my cage into the frame through 2" hole i cut in the body . Also i attached the front and rear seats and the seat restraints to the cage with custom brackets and lynch pins. The best part of that is it makes working under the dash so much easier . I pull the seats in seconds and can layout . Thank you for the video and getting back to me. ITS A JEEP THING
@@FMJeeping sorry i meant xj blast these giant thumbs.
@@dexterkardas6559 the quick release seat thing is pretty slick. Ill have to see what I can rig up when I tie mine into the cage and rockers
@@dexterkardas6559 all good. I figured you meant xj.
What size welder are you using?
On this project I used a 190 Hobart
How long did you make your Jeep XJ sliders?
Iirc. 64"
@@FMJeeping that seems really long to me. I made mine 61.5". I didn't want to rub with my 35's.
@@ProjectXJ I ran mine long for the preparation to run a cage. After everything was said and done. I went to install my cage and I had just enough steel to weld to. I haven't had any issues with the length yet.
Does the Jeep have frame stiffness.
Yes. It does have stiffeners. Front to back iron rock offroad stiffeners
Next time try a car wash before you get started 🤣
Haha I think I did. That mud gets everywhere.
Random question whats your overall length of tubing pure side
63.75" at the longest point
@@FMJeeping heels ya thanks