Back Pain For 3 YEARS With Deadlifts!
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Guy learned to lift the hard way
Same
Perfect timing. I’ve always felt back pain during a DL and DR.
Same here, stopped deadlifting alltogether because it always caused me pain
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Just now learning about the plate hinge drill you are fkn amazing dude
I just tried this, it's life changing
It's really good activation drill before DLing
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@@mantequillas1278 does it have to be a 45 LB plate?
My mans on the outskirts of snap city for 3 years before deciding to fix his form
That's the dude that snapped his shit!
@@Disiplyn really? What did he snap and how??
@@brialeah7351 It's an old inside joke. If you watched Hodgetwins back in the day
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What’s wrong with his form?
Please create a longer video with more detailed explanation for cause and solution.
I'd definitely watch that!
I'm not a doctor but doing good mornings has helped my low back and spinal erectors which raised my deadlift.
Because its strengthenning it. In this video theyre just going around it instead of actually fixing it lol
@@M.Musashi808 glad someone said it. SU has a habit of wanting to discourage strengthening the lower back, which is a common issue and runs counter to helping people
@@111kino I will say the dude's form did get improvement
@@CybertroninfiniteOfficial not really. Its very minute. He's just shifted the weight off his lower back even more, which is kinda pointless since conventional deadlifts are mostly posterior chain and he'll revert back to his previous form when he goes heavy enough, which will bring the pain back. Better fix would be switching to sumo while working on his lower back strength and probably flexibility on the side
@@111kino there's no reason he should switch to sumo if his core is his main weak point
I am a Former Kansas football player and stopped playing sometime in 2017. After all my years of going through sports and lifting and being involved in athletics, I am JUST NOW at the age of 28 actually able to hear my body and had to learn how to correct YEARS of improper/inefficient lifting. Trying to restart my football career but I have SOOOO many issues from when I was younger and deep tissue muscles that are so stiff that I can't get past certain points of pain and tightness. I fight with it everyday but my advice would be to make sure you guys are learning your body and learning every aspect of the technique in your lifts so you don't end up like me!! The weight will go up but making sure that technique is superb will make so much more of a difference. These videos help me so much with getting back into my journey. Thank you squat University!!
hear you, will check more often my technique!
Chiropractic manipulation individually doesn’t fix faulty movement patterns. Rehab is definitely the answer for that. Abdominal stability would be solid also. Great job.
Chiropractic probably kept him in pain. Chiropractic is a bunch of quackery.
@@lobo53695 I'm only responding to tell you to educate yourself before you voice certainties
If he just lifted with proper technique and cues that would have worked too
@@CaptainYesz It’s not that simple when the body has habitual improper activation that’s out of sequence. That’s what rehab is for
Chiropractic is so dangerous dude...it's literally insane .
"He tried chiropractic manipulation but it didn't work" imagine my surprise! lol
As you get older these little things matter far more than actually getting a PR.
I definitely needed this. I ego lifted and now my lower back hurts for days. Hardly can work at my place.
I highly suggest anyone experiencing this same problem to start doing dead bugs, bridges, swimmers, supermans, and push ups (keeping your hips on the ground but extending your spine). You will see significant results in a couple weeks. Your body is just too used to being in a flex position with poor posture over the years. It needs more extension. Your back muscles and glutes are elongated and weak, while your front side (abs and hip flexors) are short and also weak. Don’t stretch. You need to strengthen them to get them back to normal. Stretching makes the problem worse. Good luck.
I have been struggling with low back pain for little over a year now. Today I waited to pull my deadlift until my back was completely stiff and I was aligned up and down. Boom! Pulled 450lbs like it was a warm up. No pain at all! Couldn't believe it was as simple as making my back as stiff and strong as possible. 500lbs here I come!!
Hey did you see his recent shirt on Ed Coan's #1 thing people need to know for lifting? It was to engage the lats (& upper back, I think) to stiffen up really hard before deadlifts.
I think he posted it like 2-3 days ago.
Yes this is the way to do it, a good way to make sure you are ready is to pull the slack out of the bar. If your body isn’t tight you’ll have a hard time with it
@@efisgpr yes I did!! That's what made the difference for me. I am totally addicted to what Squat University has to say. Makes a huge difference.
This is great. I've had lower back issues in these exact movements for years
My coach’s golden words for me when I started lifting “Form is not about position of your feet, or your spine or your chest. Good form is when you learn to engage the right muscle groups for the movement”
TLDR: "His form sucked, so I had to coach him right."
not necessarily the form itself but the type of muscles youre focused on
This is life changing. I was on a quest to discover why I'd get lower back pain. This was one of the reason why.
i’m in school to be a PTA (and maybe a PT one day) and i just want to say your videos are fascinating! love watching you help people heal and get back to the lives they want
What a knowledgeable guy...
Absolute magic. Ty for your page!
Chiropractic manipulation is bs. I don't get how it's so popular in the US. In germany there physiotherapy which is scientific in its approach, and that's it. Chiropractic is just not a thing here.
Chiropractic treatment only focuses on skeletal structures and usually never the true underlying issue. Most of the time is muscle or myofascial problems when it comes to structural issues. As a result, chiropractic treatment may have very short relief up to a few hours. I agree, physical therapy is the way to go, always.
I agree lol. I don't understand how my fellow Americans don't simply read on the origins of this quackery. Palmer, the guy who found chiropractic was a nut case. Claiming his methods cured everything 😂🤦🏻♂️
It is not entirely bs. Its just that instead of 1 book about manipulation they separated the knowledge in 3 different things for no reason. The root of all this is in osteopathy and further back it is called medical manipulation or something like that. There are only 2 schools, the French school and the british school. Americans took more from the british school. They did not invent it but are better at marketing it. All this knowledge comes from EU countries remember that
I know it’s whataboutism but doesn’t Germany have hemeopathy 😅
This is why you should ALWAYS work on your form.
Thank god I've been waiting for this one. Mine happens around the coccyx on the right side
You always hear that people tried chiropractors but it didnt help.. why do people always go to a chiropractor as the first thing with back pain when it will never fix underlying muscular issues.. go to a physical therapist instead and save your money (and potentially your non-paraplegic body)
This is beautiful. Holy shit really. Deadlift are not easy to do and if u are not doing them correctly u are for sure going to hurt u on long terms. That’s why everyone who has problem should take their time, go slowly and fix their form even if it looked good like this guy was doing at the beginning
I messed up my tspine with deadlifts
This short is made for me. Thank you so much
solution: switch to sumo. worked for me
Not a solution that’s avoiding the problem
Definitely trying feeling it in the glutes and hamstring, I sometimes feel pain and I take time out of my day to adjust my form and activate them properly :))))
Can you upload this as a video please? i want to save it on a watchlist but i cant:(
Go into yiur history, where it will be shown as video
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@@user-sc9ud8wh3t thanks man!
Same
@@user-sc9ud8wh3t I watch it from my history. Dont see the option to save?
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These videos need to bigger and more explained.
So much hate in the comments for a man just trying to look out for his health 😷
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Learned this on the fly over the last few years. People ask me how I row/deadlift/RDL so often. I tell them they have to feel the glutes and hamstrings stretch, even in squats. Great video
Saving this to reference for proper form
Romanian pause deadlift going down as far till I started experiencing pain and stopping at that point going further down an inch or so every week is how I cured my back pain from an old injury I never thought I'd be able to deadlift again and before you know it I was able to lift off the floor again. Now I'm back up to 315 lb * 10 on trap bar.
Me lying in my bed with ice pack and pain in my back after that stiff leg deadlifts
God i am gonna stop deadlifts all together
Or put less weight and learn the correct form. No more egolifting and no more half-assing form.
@@ETBrooD easy to say for you...i have fucked it up once now good form also hit me like a bomb
Try the trap bar deadlift & also lifting off blocks or stacked mats to reduce range of motion. Helped me anyways
He already has such a strict hinge, its obviously not the issue at hand. Strengthen the back in rounded positions and he wont have such an intolerance to miniscule flexion during deadlifts. Avoidance is not the solution.
sure you can do that. but in the long run this is much better as it teaches right technique and treats the problem
@@ruicd okay sure strict technique is important for maximal deadlifts but its no good if you cant have a millimetre of flexion without making you cry
Actually very good advice I was going to comment something similar. Loading the spine in a slightly flexed position is likely better than trying to stay super strict with a flat back.
@@Parker_Miller_M.S. all my back pain doing deadlifts and clean nd snatch pulls went away after unlocking my back and pelvis. People dont understand that your core is still gonna be tight and stable no matter how much your spine is curving. Super strict form makes weak human beings who cant do actual work
@@phoenixfitzpatrick for me unlocking my glutes, hips, and hamstrings helped immensely with my squat and deadlift
Finally videos like this are life changing 🙌 😌 🙏
Is the rehab protocol for this documented anywhere? I would love to try the movements and cues to get my deadlift stronger
This is such great content!!
Bro you are doing Gods work.
"Tried chiropractic quackery a couple times but it didn't help." Who'da thought?! 🤔
chiro works, ur retarded if u think otherwise
Flat earth level dumb take.
Hahaha exactly what I thought
This is probably me, too. I need to do this
HOW DO I SAVE THIS FUCKING VIDEO THERE S NO OPTION FOR SHORTS
Go to your history and click view all, then press and hold the little video screen at the top and then add to saved items
Just like the video you want and then go back to your liked videos , it's all there
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This guy is the fucking truth
Push your ass out was one of the first things I learned and it’s the truth but basically as a non professional and as a gym bro if he told me low back was hurting I would’ve said do some dead hangs and then walk me through what goes on when setting up for rows or dead after picking up on the over use of bending I would’ve prescribed RDLs with emphasis on pushing the hips back then transition into rows then dead’s
Every issue with the lower back usually goes back to proper head/neck alignment
No it doesn't.
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Using reverse grip on bent-over rows will also take some stress off of the lower back.
Great video and advice!
I think for me, the deadlift isn't worth the risk of pain. Will stick with cleans at a lower weight
Any answers would be appreciated. I think I have a similar situation in this video, but not necessarily lower back pain but I felt more of my engagement with my lower back over my lats which correct me if I’m wrong, you should feel deadlifts and bent over rows the most with your lats and not your lower bank. Also im usually the one who puts form over weight first, so I don’t know if it’s a form problem or a body impairment
Same. Any info would be great
You can in the lateral
view see that while he extended the rest of his lumbar spine his L5 and sacrum are in flexion.
He tucks when he does the deadlift.
it seems like he never properly learned the technique, and probably hurt himself from it
Goodlord gonna try this.
@Squat University Could you do video in detail on this subject? I would like to learn more about the "plate hinge drill". Thanks!
Thanks for the good info
Great content!! However I wish it was that simple....when are you going to upload a video about facet joint pain management?
isnt that Lempuyangan temple?
Thank you, I'll be trying this. I've injured my lower back 3x this year with deadlift and once with barbell rows
This is incredible imma use this
Man thank you for this
It would seem to me that if these two specific movements have been causing this man pain for three years, that maybe he should stop doing these specific movements. I'm glad that his pain is better, but there are plenty of other exercises one can do that achieve the same results.
Literally my first thought. In 3yrs, How'd he not think maybe my form is off on these 2moves especially
props to him for not quitting and figuring out how to do it right.
The universe sent this video to me because I just recently started having low back pain due to deadlifts
He went to the chiropractor 😂 that's why he was still in pain. Chiropractic is a bunch of nonsense 🤡
No it’s not. I had neck pain once, it lasted at least 1.5 years and I had some nasty dizziness. I saw multiple doctors, including ENTs and a neck/spine specialist with no luck. I then had my first-ever chiro app. Within two weeks I was legitimately cured of both pain and dizziness.
Chiro isn’t the answer for everything, but stop yapping about topics you likely have zero experience in. It’s a child’s viewpoint.
@@L3x4Pr0ne I'm glad you're in heaven now, free from suffering
@chillrobp cupping is ok
@@L3x4Pr0ne most chiros are frauds. I saw a chiropractor twice a week for 2 months to ease pain from a car accident; The pain relief was only temporary, lasting about a few hours after the session, and they attempted to charged over 10 grand up from 3 when they heard I was cancelling. I went to see an orthopedic and that got the job done permanently. I've heard many stories like my own, and while I'm glad your chiropractor was able to get you help, most are not solutions to actual injury.
@@L3x4Pr0ne chiro has literally been seen to give the same relief as a masseuse.
Perfect timing my back snapped in the lumbar spine part, felt awkward at first and a bit stiff but no pain but holy after like 4 hours the pain was intense, could barely stand the pain killed me...no pain in legs etc just pressure and sparkly/crampy pain hurt a fk ton first night and second night now it feels much better but still very stiff and hurts sometimes when i walk or rotate in a weird way. If the pain lasts imma go to the hospital
I'd get that checked out! Never know what could've moved or been impacted..
Had a back injury for years. Been scared to death of doing dead lifts...
this is very helpful! could you please do a video about that last tip? the one about the 1 inch pause to improve leg drive.
I wish I could save this short
You can. Just watch it again, then immediately go to history and you can do it that way
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Yes. This. I think If you go on his website his main product are his 2 books? But some guidance would be great !!
@@andyw732 which books?
They probably have a lot of clients
@@yoeyyoey8937 I don’t care how long it takes I wanna slap this dude with my money n let him tell me what’s wrong or not😂
It's on his website under the 'work with me' tab
Gem of a channel.
i have the same problems like him
Hey do you have any videos on how to fix shoulder impingement/pain
seek a doctor? bruh
Why people start training without proper coaching is beyong me !! 3 years🤯 without basic technic!! Woww
I need this badly.
Getting injured taught me to hip hinge
So deadlift is a back workout for him all this time 😂
I’d love to have you as my physical therapist. The ones I’ve had weren’t that good as the good ones moved away.
I have bulging discs L3+L4 and a narrowing in my lumbar canal, every time I deadlift I cripple myself considering my form looks to be good it definitely doesn’t feel it… I’ll give this a go hopefully it helps
youre a legend
It's all in the mind...
This a drug free zone. And have you not ever been to a chiropractor?
He looks like he’s got pretty flat fleet though so it could have to do with that ngl
This is why I tell people that deadlifts should be considered a leg exercise, not a back exercise.
I think that's a bad way to think, because it's an extremely good back excercise and has cured most of my back pain I've had for 20+ years. Deadlift is one of the best back excercises.
@@BoshBargnani It is great for the back, too, yes, but I think of it as legs first.
If you envision deadlifts as back supported squats it will give you optimal form. I was watching a Eddie hall video where he said begin like it’s a leg press and ever since then I’ve had no pain in my lower back and my deadlift shot up instantly
Took 70 pounds off the bar and suddenly has no pain, wow! Looks like his problem isn’t bad form or flexion intolerance but inadequate capacity. Treatment should be load management and recovery not booty drills
why are people getting off on being dicks on the internet. 1 any heavy lifting is gonna have pain thats just how it goes 2 everything else about his form was very good 3 he was demolishing that weight easily. think before you speak bro.
@@the.bank.teller I agree heavy lifting has some kind of pain so it’s unethical for squatU or your local chiro to promise “zero pain with this one simple trick!” to get money out of people. I never commented on his form in fact I said his problem isn’t bad form. Squat U wants you to think there’s only one way to do things right or you’ll hurt yourself. It creates bad expectations and decreases peoples desire to lift.
It might not feel comfortable. But it literally is the required movement for safety. And you can only hide it so long before you snap something. Most likely a disc herniation at the L-4 L5 levels. It might not happen at 3 plates 4 plates or even 5 plates. But it’ll happen. So make sure that you tighten up your form. That hinge needs to be perfect unless you want to have sciatic nerve pressure and learn it the hard way. Chances are you already HAVE a herniated disc or bulging disc but are just asymptomatic at the moment.
- Guy who learned it the hard way.
APT can be a problem too. Weak posterior chain, tight hips, weak abs, and excessively curved lumbar spine makes any loading on the spine regardless of technique and bracing irrelevant.
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Thank you!!
So he was lifting with bad form and wondered why he was in pain. 🤦♂️
it wasn’t obviously bad though. if you look at his initial deadlift and row, his back looks pretty good, but it was a minor change that couldn’t really be seen
Bad form doesn’t necessarily cause pain
Shows chiropractors are overrated.
True
Chiropractors more like chiroquacktors
They are so full of shit it should be a crime. I wasted a ton of money on “adjustment” appointments. Ended up finally going to a physical therapist who knew what the actual problem was and I’m finally getting relief.
I dont feel my hamstring/glute. But I feel my calf being strech.
The calfs are ankle extenders. If you are being stretched there, then my guess is you either have a whole lot of tightness there, or your don't have the weight balanced directly over the middle of the foot. If the weight (and thus your centre of balance) goes forward, then you'll have to dig your toes into the ground, or push away with your toes to keep from falling forward. This would of course use your calf muscles and stretch them a bit.
Bravo again
Within th3 rehab would becoming stronger within faulty positions be a good idea as well?
Like Jefferson curls, where you have a light weight with dumbells and you'd your back heavily on it and just move resllt slowly and controlled so you can strengthen the area so if on a heavy lift he does round his back a little it's not a huge issue
Interesting approach, however I am skeptical that you can perform a full range hip hinge (RDL) without flexing at the spine.
Why? The pelvic keeps neutral just like the spine. The only hinge happens in the hip in relation with the femur.
Studies have shown that the spine flexes well out of the neutral range with exercises like good morning and squats. Even when people think they’re keeping a “neutral” spine the lumbar spine still flexes quite significantly. Barbell medicine covers the topic pretty well.
The spine may flex up to like 20 degrees in some people but the point is to be as stable and tight and rigid as possible. This transfers the most force to the bar as well so it’s efficient as well. You must brace
@@nriv9338 then its just bad form. Yes the spine may flex, but it should be very minimal. The pelvis and spine should keep completely neutral, brace through the lats and core while hinging in the hips. This is also the drill he is teaching his patient in this video. In the end he mentioned he never felt his glutes and hamstrings as much. Thats because he finally doesnt flex anymore.
@@nriv9338 do those studies include hip hinge with and without the spine loaded? That makes a difference.
Will these drills help someone with disc degeneration?
Where does the pain stem from then? Is it weak muscles? Or nerve pain?
Learned in hard way about lumbar pain, because of weak glutes hamstrings
You might need to help me out with the deadlifting
I recently heard my lower back pop during a deadlift and I've been recovering for almost a month already. It just really hurts when Laying down for a long time and then finally getting up.
You’ve probably pulled a disc, go see a physio or doctor…
Pops and cracks can sound scary, but it's like any joint pop, and is most likely harmless. The odds of a spontaneous herniation occuring during a deadlift is statistically very small so the reason you're likely feeling pain is the subconscious psychological fear associated with anything happening in or around the spine. You can try massage and hot/cold packs, but it's discouraged to get any kind of imaging done as the possibility for false positive findings are high and the cost of imaging is high. Try gradually reintroducing movements and activities as tolerated and progress as needed.
@I Voted For Biden And Love Abortion risk of injury isn't any lower for a trap bar. Not using ones back is a sure fire way to nocebo someone into thinking their spine is fragile and not preparing their spine to handle load in a variety of positions. More load in different positions provides greater overall resiliency to the spine.
Look up McKenzie exercises. Try not to bend forward only stretch with your spin going backwards. Do cobra pose from yoga ! Or sphinx pose for a warm up about 6-10 sets of 20-30 seconds. Or do reps..... if your legs give out or it hurts to cough you might have a herniated disk
@@qendrimsmelaj6063 Mackenzie technique, McGill's big 3, don't have any special benefits to them other than just trying to get people to move. Most back pain is nonspecific so it takes overcoming a fear of movement that one most strongly associates with pain which is likely bending over and flexing the spine. Herniated discs also heal on their own with time and most people have at least 1 which are asymptomatic and not dangerous. But yes if one loses bladder or bowel function or there's a significant motor deficit between sides that's cause for seeing a doctor right away as that could be cuada equina syndrome
Maybe do some jefferson curl too, to stregthen the weak position
its funny cause that chiropractic session probably made it worse forever.
doing God’s work 💪
His first mistake was trusting that chiropractors would give him any results…..