@@texandy89 Ya but that was still a full-sizer. There's zero chance of Ford messing with F-250 sales. Not that F-250 shoppers would be looking for a mid-size, but it will confuse people.
The Ranger Superduty I'm sure will do well here in New Zealand, the Ranger as it is now has been our best-selling vehicle for the last 10 years straight. Can't wait to see these hit our dealer lots!
I’m 5’9”. There’s not ONE functional FULL SIZED work truck on the market PERIOD. Unless you play for the NBA ! You can’t reach a tool. They’ve made trucks so tall they have had to put built in ladders on them. How about a functional work height truck bed? How about a Ranger with an 8’ bed?? A work truck doesn’t have to be a big rig.
Im 6’4”. I’m sick of working out of tall trucks. Just got an 03 Ranger for my work truck. Every 4wd truck is too tall. Tires are way too big and expensive. We just want a cheap truck that can work, last 400k miles, and get decent mpg.
I’ve been saying since I first saw the Transit Connect that they need to do a truck version. Small and inexpensive with a low bed side and 14 inch tires.
This with fill a niche in Australia, between mid size to 1500 sized trucks. All American trucks undergo a significant engineering and conversion process when the arrive in Australia which adds significant costs and 1500 sized trucks don't have the payload. And in Australia most carparks ,garages, drive thrus dont suit full sized trucks, and most Australians live in cities with limited space. A hd ranger would sell well as mid sized trucks are about the biggest vehicles people will drive here. Hilux and Ranger are the biggest sellers here.
I like it. Even in America on our giant roads, driving a full size is needlessly cumbersome relative to a mid-size. I hate driving my work truck in cities (a Superduty with Altec servics boxes). An F-150 doesn't fit in my garage, a Ranger does with about 15" to spare. I wouldn't buy one because I don't need the extra capacity over the normal Ranger. Maybe if I had a camper trailer I'd be interested.
Still want to see one in the US. Makes just as much sense in the US. The current Ranger is as big as the previous generations of the F150. The smaller truck that can do work would be awesome. Was hoping this was the trickle we would start to see about T3.
Logically it makes sense, but in reality it will eat heavily into F150 sales and Ford wouldn't allow that, for now at least. Keep in mind the F150 is always topping the list for the best selling vehicle in the NA market, so Ford definitely wouldn't want to mess with that
My only complaint with the Ranger as an owner of one is the bed size. I would’ve liked to see a double cap option to extend the bed even if it’s a little bit. Or a single cab Ranger with a full size bed.
@3:56.. This has to be the analogy of the year! Kudos Andre: "it's not really a duck I mean it walks like a Superduty F250 and it quacks like an F-150 but it looks like a ranger"
There are many diesel power choices in the rest of the world in a choice of four basic engines in various specs. There are the old 2.2 four and 3.2 five cylinder engines and the newer 2.0 in single and twin turbo versions plus the 3.0 V6 as was recently available in the US F150 and before that in Jaguar/Land Rover/ Range Rover vehicles. In the UK, only the Raptor has an available option of a V6 gas engine and that is considered to be a rich man’s toy.
@@przemeksledziewski1973as a toyota fan and an owner of a 2020 4Runner TRD Off Road, the issues Toyota has been having with their new trucks genuinely make me sad.
@@MrTonaluv Yeah and down under they all want the gas engines from the US. Its hilarious. On all the Toyota groups im on, all the americans want the 2.8L Toyota diesel, but then all the Australians want our 1UR and 2UZ V8's for their Land Cruiser Prado.
Honestly bro, or F150, actually I take that back, they've been talking about bringing back the 3.0L Powerstroke, honestly I think it needs a power bump like certain power plants *cough* 3.5L EcoBoost High output *cough* sorry, something tells me there are different power bumps coming too, the 3.0L Ecoboost in the Ranger Raptor making 5 extra hp and 20 pound feet of torque with 0.5 liters less in displacement is quite crispy, leads me to believe we'll get Ford GT power numbers out of an RHO competitive V6 Raptor 😈
Hell maybe with Ford being back on a V8 hype rn we may even finally get another V8 Powered Ford GT, the ZR1 is really making me think so, that is sell my soul for honestly, imagine a Twin Turbo Voodoo powered Ford GT bro with a 8/9-Speed DCT 🤤🤤🤤 shit would be blowing away Bugatti and Koenigsegg bruh 💀
I looked at the spy pictures of the Ranger SD and the rims have six opening, so I would assume it would have 6 bolt. If there was a Ranger Super Duty Raptor, that would be very interesting.
@ALMX5DP As said in the video, the spy photos of the Ranger Super Duty has a hub cap over the lugs, but the wheel has 6 holes in the metal, which normally means a lug between each home, therefore the Super Duty should also be a 6 lug.
@@shawndixon4536 I suppose, though I’d expect a larger hub and bearing assembly at the very least. Also I’ve seen F-450/550s with steel wheels that only have 6 holes, but those of course are all like 10 bolt hubs.
@@shawndixon4536 super duty and raptor are complete opposites one if built for heavy towing/carrying and the other is built for high soeed off-road use which negatively affects the carrying/towing numbers. You can't have both together. The SD will be primarily for agricultural usage and will most like be picked up for touring(overlanding) due to the bigger payload capacity.
@floofy117 A company did make a F-350 into a Raptor. Just because it's not practice, doesn't mean a manufacturer won't build it. It explains the re-introduced T-Bird, HHR, SSR, Prowler, PT Cruiser.
No market for it here in the US simply due to the fact that it would cost more then an F150. The chart data in the video display shows the F150 able to tow up to 3,500 more pounds but you say the Ranger Super Duty will tow as much as an F150? The payload on that truck sounds insane for its size and makes you wonder what the ride quality would feel like when it is empty. Ford still has hundreds of new 2023 F150 inventory in this country on top of 2024's, and now 2025's. I really don't think they need another truck to build and sell currently in the U.S..
Thanks Andrey for the quick response on this.👍🏽 Ford is missing out! I would be interested in a midsize with the Ranger superduty. F150 is too big, and I would think its price would be acceptable.
Mid size heavy duty truck? Yes please. Unfortunately, I agree with you Andre; I don’t think they’ll bring it to the US because they’ll never do anything to jeopardize F-150 sales.
Actually kind of a cool idea, probably wouldn't work well here in NA unless it's priced aggressively but as someone who needs an HD for the box and payload, and not so much for the towing capability, this would potentially be a good alternative to that large (and heavy) HD.
I'm sure it would sell fairly well if they brought it over here, since everyone's toys (boats/camper/atv) are getting bigger and heavier. Everyone wants a mid size truck that can do full size jobs. But they would have to make a option in a 6+ bed size minimum preferably in a 8 foot bed option.
Ford holding out on the good stuff in the country they were created in. We never got the first Ranger Raptor, don't have the new Tremor (yet at least) and now another truck variation that would be appealing to many business owners and people who tow will not make it here. Not everyone wants the size of an F150, would be nice to see what Ford does to this HD Ranger to pump up those numbers.
I have a 2023 ranger with the 2.3 inline 4 banger 30mpg and I love it! It’s rides great and has plenty of power. I also have a 2008 Silverado ltz with a 5.3 200K miles 14mpg and I love my old truck. My personal opinion is these old trucks are built to last and these newer vehicles don’t even make it no more to 100K miles.
History Lesson... The original small Ranger died because it was growing in size and price so much so that there was little difference to the F150. You don't mess with the best selling truck in America. Bill please take back control of your company.
Here in Brazil the F150 , RAM 1500 / 2500 and Sliverado are just show off trucks for rich people and are rarely used for hauling stuff. Our mid sized trucks can haul one ton in the bed and almost all have diesel engines. These were the sales numbers for mid sized and full sized trucks in October Toyota Hilux - 4.736 unidades Ford Ranger - 3.817 unidades Chevrolet S10 - 2.660 unidades VW Amarok - 1.141 unidades Fiat Titano - 795 unidades Mitsubishi L200 - 784 unidades Nissan Frontier - 344 unidades RAM 2500 - 215 unidades RAM 3500 - 160 unidades BYD Shark - 143 unidades Chevrolet Silverado - 84 unidades RAM 1500 - 49 unidades Ford F-150 - 42 unidades
I think they should bring it over. Variety is the spice of life and there are more reasons than just towing and payload to buy an F150. Remember this is the reason they got rid of the ranger a few years ago. They thought the F150 would cover that segment, it did not, and the Tacoma took over.
Ford needs to bring back the Ford Ranger Tremor to the United Stares before they start doing HD! Bring out the Tremor next year then HD! People especially young people now a days love going off road and overlanding a ford tremor would fix this for ford and bring in a whole new community since a lot of people can’t afford a Ford Ranger Raptor
I was a huge GM/Ford truck guy over the years. Once deciding to go to a midsize truck for my needs. I had to go to Toyota Tacoma to get a midsize crew cab with 6 ft bed
@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit hell no, I got a real truck a 3rd gen Tacoma TRD off-road 4X4 that will actually last a long time no turbos + manual transmission. It's far from a perfect truck it's rough around the edges like a truck should be I like it. My ex had a 2022 Maverick hybrid I don't know how but it has a 500 lb payload higher than my Tacoma and we took a long road trip with 4 full-size adults & the bed loaded up with 150-180 lb of gear & we still averaged 29 MPG, I was driving around 90 mph a lot of the trip! It's easy to change the 🛢️ & air filter on that Maverick so it has some nice pro's! Solid 💪 lil vehicle
@@honda116969 honestly bro I would rather have 50% more mpg and just get a Maverick also it’s an American brand Manual transmissions are cool but overrated the only real benefit now is weight reduction for another 1 or 2 mpg but Maverick gets way better than 1 or 2 mpg better compared to Tacoma Also if bed is too small you just get a bed extender or trailer if you had to even
It would be the go-to vehicle for people who want to tow, but don’t want a full-size truck. 10,000 pound towing capacity with 2,000 payload would be amazing in a Ranger body!
Some guys have already commented on the Super Duty Ranger here in Australia saying it needs a V8 but IDK. IMHO it just needs a torquey diesel. I guess a coyote would be kinda nice...but is there enough room in the Ranger engine bay?
Lets be real, it makes a lot of sense for the US CONSUMER as well but as you said it would take from F-150 sales and then Ford would not be able to claim best selling truck when anyone that pays attntion already knows if you count Chevy and GMC 1500 which are the same trucks they outsell the F-150.
Over in Europe Rangers look to have the Ford 9 inch axles and only come as diesels. They run them like 3/4 tons hauling skid steers and mini excavators and other heavy loads. Pretty impressive.
How about a Super Duty Everest to the US! I'd buy one in a heartbeat. I loved my 2019Ranger. But what I'd really like is the PHEV version of the Ranger, but especially a PHEV Everest. I had to buy a KIA PHEV!
F150s in Australia are $100,000-$150000, f350 platinum is towards $300000. Our government puts a lot of tax on these trucks and our dollar is low compared to the usd. A ranger that could carry 2ton like the old f350's in a cab chassis for a flat bed would be awesome, i think it would sell well here in Australia. As another coment said our parking and a lot of places we go are not well suited for the size of the US Trucks, sadly a Big Country that gets devided up into little tiny pieces of land . Love yiur show guys, keep up the good work!!!
I'm thinking of starting a private wildland firefighting company. I used to be a BLM firefighter. These would be perfect for my needs. A smaller truck is better for getting to remote areas.
Given that you can buy an actual Super Duty f250 xl 4x4 extended cab with the xl and fx4 off road packages for around $54K and a 6.8 and the ranger raptor can be more expensive I shutter to guess at the pricing of the ranger super duty. I know Toyota use to offer trucks with these capacities in the U.S. but I don't remember any of the other small trucks doing so.
As we learn more, I’d love to see a y’all do a comparison between the size of the Super Duty Ranger and the ‘97 and ‘04 generation F-150s and the capabilities of same.
Ford can gain sales right now if they offered the crew cab 6 foot bed ranger. Easier to get into the bed. Better for city delivery and off road, etc. But they aren't. So this is like story time.
Could make sense in Europe too. Our streets are thinner, or narrower. So a smaller Pickup with the capeability of a bigger truck could work out here too 🤔
Sure, they'll bring it to the US, but they'll F-up the ability to build a useful one. Just like not being able to order towing mirrors on the max tow powerboost. So, you can have the 'Superduty' but you won't be able to spec things like a hitch or brake controller, because...Ford. Or you'll have to pony up for a fully optioned Lariat model and spend more than you would on an F150. (Posted by a happy 2020 Ranger Owner.). On the other hand, if they did bring it, and let me order it in a fairly basic model, I'd be first in line. Just like I'd be first in line for a PHEV Ranger. Sadly, it looks like I'll just be keeping my 2020 until the wheels fall off.
Cool! But what I would like to see is a mid-sized truck with just a couple more inches of rear leg room. I loved my Tacoma but as my kids grew and my dog got chubbier...I needed more space and traded for a Tundra. Love them both but I miss the Tacoma size.
The 9920lb GVWR makes it heavy enough to be commercially deductible in the US. Thats a BIG deal. Now that half-ton trucks start at $50k+, if Ford brought a commercially deductible midsize to the US market they's sell 'em like umbrellas in a rainstorm.
I think the concept of a ranger super duty is appropriate for the Australian market regarding its competition, which, in this case would be predominantly a vehicle, the size of the traditional Nissan Patrol and Toyota Land Cruiser. Both of which are bigger than the traditional midsize pick up truck but not as fat as the traditional American full-size truck. It is purpose belt for duty and has a simple straightforward form following function design.
No, not at all. This thing has 1700 lbs higher GVWR than the stoutest F150 had. A 9920 lb GVWR like this Ranger SD has is basically the same as an F250.
New teaser dropped with off road gravel track being traversed showing 8 lug wheel/hubs, suggesting f250 rear axle under the back and aluminium front lower control arm on front, looks like they are serious! At least on the pre-production mule they are filming…
@robertryan7204 that too. But the increased towing cability is popular. Ranger is really a 3 ton tow vehicle. A lot of Australians over load their utes, as to tow 3.5t you basically have an empty ute.
They would sell a ton here. Not sure why 1/2 trucks keep getting bigger. Park a 1990’s f150 next to a 2020’s f150. They had 5.0 and 5.8 then, now it’s 3.5 and 5.0. The new Ranger is closer in size with the old f150’s.
This makes no sense. If you need more capacity you get a bigger truck. I would be willing to bet that this ranger super duty wouldn't be much cheaper than the bigger trucks
Would need a longer bed and bigger fuel tank to be viable. My F150 has a 700 mile range empty, and over 500 carrying a pop-up camper and full GVWR. Ranger has half the fuel capacity.
@kiplambel4052 think about what you just posted Australia is as big as the continental us do you think the ranger has a small tank to cover vast distances in Australia
@kiplambel4052 How about the most popular vehicle in Australia is the Ford Ranger. So your criticism about a small tank makes no sense for travelling in a vast country like Australia
I hope they see the light and offer single cab and extra cab variants not the usual Ford Australia aproach of dual cab only on all bar base and xlt variants . 2 tonne payload in a dual cab would be great to watch go down the road
It wouldn’t sell as well as people think it would in the US. Even if it had the 3.0 diesel, it’s still slower than the 2.3 ecoboost in the US and the ride would be terrible. Plus, the countries it’s produced for have towing speed limits of 100km/h or lower. So there really isn’t any real appeal when you compare it to our roads, truck options and value.
@charlessmith1677 A good friend of my family has a first-generation Ford Ranger Raptor with a diesel. But this latest Gen Ranger only comes with gas engines now.
Here’s my thing, let’s face it, full size trucks are over priced and mid sized is what most people NEED, unless they are working class and pulling large trailers more than “deadheading” or running no load, and the ONLY reason I want a full size truck is the cabin or room inside the cab, I don’t like their fuel economy, and because I enjoy off-roading, most trails will scratch a full size more so than a midsize, and I wish all the auto manufacturers would make the cabin bigger (longer and a few inches taller) since I have a baby, the car seat takes up SO MUCH ROOM! But I like that some trucks are getting their respectable sizes because midsize trucks are more capable than they are rated.
One could make the case that the Ranger Super Duty would come here, because people would gravitate toward a more capable work truck that is smaller and easier to park than an F-150. That said, knowing how many 5-person crews are running around and that they will fit much better in an F-150 than a Ranger (likely only 4-person) indicates that there would be too many parities between a US Ranger SD and F-150 for offering the former to make sense. All the customers coming in to dealers would ask "Why?", and the sales persons - with managers already indisposed to hate interacting with Ford - will just not sell them because everyone knows "F-150" 3X better than "Ranger". The Ranger SD makes a (extra ton) more sense in AU.
Probably investing in ranger upgrade rather than F150 because: 1. The main market the ranger is aimed at is Right Hand Drive. 2. Most people in Australia etc, can't afford an F150 250 350 due to RHD Conversion costs. 3. Australian Drivers License weight limit category's don't match America. 4. In America buying a F150 and above is more realistically affordable. In my opinion the LR license weights should be covered under the car license. I would be more concerned with licensing people to tow 2 tone or over as their is more likely hood they will become unstuck due to ignorance of what creates trailer sway, extra stopping distance etc. If we could have relative American vehicle pricing and licensing, I'd prefer to see: Payload Tow Ranger 1 tone 2.5 tone F150 1.5 tone 3.5 tone F250 2 tone 4.5 tone F350 2.5 / 3 tone 5.5 tone
I like the idea, but don't like the thought of plug in hybrids. Plug in hybrids so expensive in repairs that diesel with after treatment systems ate cheaper options, thats saying alot... Love the breaking news info you guys do.
It would be crazy to see. Ford has hit some snags in the market and maybe they're willing to make a limited run for it. But the F150 fills the mold and has for years.
Would love an hd ranger. Use mine for some work. Just an extra 1000lb paymoad and extra 2k tow would be perfect! I know f150, but f150 big and expensive. But, like it says, not for us. I mean the U.S. they wont want to jeopardize the f series
easier to park & carry bunch of stuff! cool! I tow rv with my f150 and appreciate the width, visibility, stability. but parking can be a pain sometimes.
“Ranger super duty” is a weird way to spell F150
@@carguyeyedoc 😂
You beat me to it
Fair point, but I like to look at it from a smaller footprint standpoint. Might be intriguing.
F-150 doesn't fit in my garage. Ramger does, even f it were a foot longer.
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I think ppl need to start realizing that anytime a content creater uses a question in a video title the answer is 99% of the time is NO.
Clickbait is a helluva drug
@@KITDFOHS LOL
There's no way ford will offer the ranger super duty here in America. It would destroy f150 sales.
@@Eyore82 it would an if brought probably call it a f100 to help f series sales
Or call it Ranger 250 because there was a Ranger 250 back in the day.
Not really. The SD Ranger will have more payload capacity and towing, but not be bigger. F150 will always be larger and have more space.
Sadly, I agree.
@@texandy89 Ya but that was still a full-sizer. There's zero chance of Ford messing with F-250 sales. Not that F-250 shoppers would be looking for a mid-size, but it will confuse people.
The Ranger Superduty I'm sure will do well here in New Zealand, the Ranger as it is now has been our best-selling vehicle for the last 10 years straight. Can't wait to see these hit our dealer lots!
You will need a Class 2 license in NZ to drive one of these...🚔.
That will weed out the posers 😅
So, basically what would of been an F150 today if trucks hadn’t gotten so huge now, midsize is about what the full size was in the 90’s
People keep saying this but if you look up the specs, it is not remotely true.
Yeah my 2015 canyon is as big as my brothers 2004 Silverado. Not quite as wide but not by much, and it's the same length
1994 F150:
196-235″ L x 79-80″ W x 71-74″ H
2024 F150:
209-244″ L x 80″ W x 75-80″ H
2024 Ranger:
211″ L x 79″ W x 74-76″ H
I’m 5’9”. There’s not ONE functional FULL SIZED work truck on the market PERIOD. Unless you play for the NBA ! You can’t reach a tool. They’ve made trucks so tall they have had to put built in ladders on them. How about a functional work height truck bed? How about a Ranger with an 8’ bed?? A work truck doesn’t have to be a big rig.
Im 6’4”. I’m sick of working out of tall trucks. Just got an 03 Ranger for my work truck. Every 4wd truck is too tall. Tires are way too big and expensive. We just want a cheap truck that can work, last 400k miles, and get decent mpg.
On my 4wd F-150 I took out the rear block and installed a longer shackle. Brings it right back down to usable and was very easy to accomplish.
Short guy problems
@@jrhunt414 I didn’t mention tires but why a 15 inch instead of expensive 18 and 19 inch tires. I want a cost effective truck not a show truck.
I’ve been saying since I first saw the Transit Connect that they need to do a truck version. Small and inexpensive with a low bed side and 14 inch tires.
This with fill a niche in Australia, between mid size to 1500 sized trucks. All American trucks undergo a significant engineering and conversion process when the arrive in Australia which adds significant costs and 1500 sized trucks don't have the payload.
And in Australia most carparks ,garages, drive thrus dont suit full sized trucks, and most Australians live in cities with limited space. A hd ranger would sell well as mid sized trucks are about the biggest vehicles people will drive here. Hilux and Ranger are the biggest sellers here.
This Ranger Super Duty could take a bite out of Toyota sales here in Australia. Not necessarily Hilux but more LandCruiser.
I like it. Even in America on our giant roads, driving a full size is needlessly cumbersome relative to a mid-size. I hate driving my work truck in cities (a Superduty with Altec servics boxes). An F-150 doesn't fit in my garage, a Ranger does with about 15" to spare.
I wouldn't buy one because I don't need the extra capacity over the normal Ranger. Maybe if I had a camper trailer I'd be interested.
Still want to see one in the US. Makes just as much sense in the US. The current Ranger is as big as the previous generations of the F150. The smaller truck that can do work would be awesome. Was hoping this was the trickle we would start to see about T3.
Logically it makes sense, but in reality it will eat heavily into F150 sales and Ford wouldn't allow that, for now at least. Keep in mind the F150 is always topping the list for the best selling vehicle in the NA market, so Ford definitely wouldn't want to mess with that
My only complaint with the Ranger as an owner of one is the bed size. I would’ve liked to see a double cap option to extend the bed even if it’s a little bit. Or a single cab Ranger with a full size bed.
@3:56.. This has to be the analogy of the year! Kudos Andre: "it's not really a duck I mean it walks like a Superduty F250 and it quacks like
an F-150 but it looks like a ranger"
There are many diesel power choices in the rest of the world in a choice of four basic engines in various specs. There are the old 2.2 four and 3.2 five cylinder engines and the newer 2.0 in single and twin turbo versions plus the 3.0 V6 as was recently available in the US F150 and before that in Jaguar/Land Rover/ Range Rover vehicles. In the UK, only the Raptor has an available option of a V6 gas engine and that is considered to be a rich man’s toy.
Finally a midsized truck with actual payload capacity!
Current Ranger already has more payload capacity than Tundra.
@rightwingsafetysquad9872
Haha yeah. How pathetic the tundra turned out to be.
@@przemeksledziewski1973as a toyota fan and an owner of a 2020 4Runner TRD Off Road, the issues Toyota has been having with their new trucks genuinely make me sad.
Considerable payload capacity 4000lb
2door, manual, short bed, 4x4, solid axles with lockers, $20k. They would sell millions a year.
Agree but add a 2WD for $17K.
I think the American market would be better served by the Plug-in Hybrid version of the Ranger.
Agree and even if it was a hybrid itself would be great for work trucks and everyday drivers.
No diesel Ranger option makes me angry & sad.
Move down under. All our Rangers are diesel. (except for the Raptor)
@@MrTonaluv Yeah and down under they all want the gas engines from the US. Its hilarious. On all the Toyota groups im on, all the americans want the 2.8L Toyota diesel, but then all the Australians want our 1UR and 2UZ V8's for their Land Cruiser Prado.
Honestly bro, or F150, actually I take that back, they've been talking about bringing back the 3.0L Powerstroke, honestly I think it needs a power bump like certain power plants *cough* 3.5L EcoBoost High output *cough* sorry, something tells me there are different power bumps coming too, the 3.0L Ecoboost in the Ranger Raptor making 5 extra hp and 20 pound feet of torque with 0.5 liters less in displacement is quite crispy, leads me to believe we'll get Ford GT power numbers out of an RHO competitive V6 Raptor 😈
Hell maybe with Ford being back on a V8 hype rn we may even finally get another V8 Powered Ford GT, the ZR1 is really making me think so, that is sell my soul for honestly, imagine a Twin Turbo Voodoo powered Ford GT bro with a 8/9-Speed DCT 🤤🤤🤤 shit would be blowing away Bugatti and Koenigsegg bruh 💀
@@awesomeness369 the 3.0 makes that power on premium. The normal 3.5 does it on 87.
I looked at the spy pictures of the Ranger SD and the rims have six opening, so I would assume it would have 6 bolt.
If there was a Ranger Super Duty Raptor, that would be very interesting.
The standard Ranger has a 6x139 bolt pattern already, unless I’m not understanding your comment correctly.
@ALMX5DP As said in the video, the spy photos of the Ranger Super Duty has a hub cap over the lugs, but the wheel has 6 holes in the metal, which normally means a lug between each home, therefore the Super Duty should also be a 6 lug.
@@shawndixon4536 I suppose, though I’d expect a larger hub and bearing assembly at the very least. Also I’ve seen F-450/550s with steel wheels that only have 6 holes, but those of course are all like 10 bolt hubs.
@@shawndixon4536 super duty and raptor are complete opposites one if built for heavy towing/carrying and the other is built for high soeed off-road use which negatively affects the carrying/towing numbers. You can't have both together. The SD will be primarily for agricultural usage and will most like be picked up for touring(overlanding) due to the bigger payload capacity.
@floofy117 A company did make a F-350 into a Raptor. Just because it's not practice, doesn't mean a manufacturer won't build it. It explains the re-introduced T-Bird, HHR, SSR, Prowler, PT Cruiser.
No market for it here in the US simply due to the fact that it would cost more then an F150. The chart data in the video display shows the F150 able to tow up to 3,500 more pounds but you say the Ranger Super Duty will tow as much as an F150? The payload on that truck sounds insane for its size and makes you wonder what the ride quality would feel like when it is empty. Ford still has hundreds of new 2023 F150 inventory in this country on top of 2024's, and now 2025's. I really don't think they need another truck to build and sell currently in the U.S..
What you need in the US. is much cheaper vehicles
I feel like this will dig into the F150 sales too much so I doubt they will bring it here
Thanks Andrey for the quick response on this.👍🏽
Ford is missing out! I would be interested in a midsize with the Ranger superduty. F150 is too big, and I would think its price would be acceptable.
Hello TFL Team, when will you guys run a Ford Super Duty with a 6.8L V8 up and down the Ike Gauntlet???
Ford needs to come out with an F-150 with a 10k gvwr.
Mid size heavy duty truck? Yes please. Unfortunately, I agree with you Andre; I don’t think they’ll bring it to the US because they’ll never do anything to jeopardize F-150 sales.
I'd predict that it won't be sold in North America since the F-150 already exists and is their bestseller.
This ute will make a massive impact on the Australian market. Im rethinking my whole business model based on the capacity of this ute.
Actually kind of a cool idea, probably wouldn't work well here in NA unless it's priced aggressively but as someone who needs an HD for the box and payload, and not so much for the towing capability, this would potentially be a good alternative to that large (and heavy) HD.
But it will still need a special bed bracket that's in back order, that is needed if you want to put a camper
It's an Australian F150, won't be marketed here.. let's not forget the Ranger and Explorer used to be F100's and F150's in the 70's and early 80's
If the Super Duty Ranger is available with a naturally aspired V-6 with a manual transmission at a fair price I’ll order one in blue.
@@jsd354 red for me.
I'm sure it would sell fairly well if they brought it over here, since everyone's toys (boats/camper/atv) are getting bigger and heavier. Everyone wants a mid size truck that can do full size jobs. But they would have to make a option in a 6+ bed size minimum preferably in a 8 foot bed option.
Ford holding out on the good stuff in the country they were created in. We never got the first Ranger Raptor, don't have the new Tremor (yet at least) and now another truck variation that would be appealing to many business owners and people who tow will not make it here. Not everyone wants the size of an F150, would be nice to see what Ford does to this HD Ranger to pump up those numbers.
I have a 2023 ranger with the 2.3 inline 4 banger 30mpg and I love it! It’s rides great and has plenty of power. I also have a 2008 Silverado ltz with a 5.3 200K miles 14mpg and I love my old truck. My personal opinion is these old trucks are built to last and these newer vehicles don’t even make it no more to 100K miles.
They have to compete with Mazda down there. It would be great if we could get the fuel sipping diesels here for Ranger
They're not really competing with Mazda in the pickup segment. The big competition for Ford is Toyota's Hilux and landcruiser 79 models
@@Ramblin_Rob Mazda (BT50) isn't among the Rangers top compeditors. The main compeditors are the Toyota Hilux, Mitsubishi Triton, Nissan Navara.
History Lesson... The original small Ranger died because it was growing in size and price so much so that there was little difference to the F150. You don't mess with the best selling truck in America. Bill please take back control of your company.
Had a dream once chevy made a dually colorado. Would be dope to see a dually ranger even though we wont.
I wonder if the Nissan Frontier longbed sells well if it could potentially change Fords mind in bringing to the US.
Here in argentina al mid size pick up trucks have a payload of 1ton (ranger, hilux, s10, frontier)
Here in Brazil the F150 , RAM 1500 / 2500 and Sliverado are just show off trucks for rich people and are rarely used for hauling stuff.
Our mid sized trucks can haul one ton in the bed and almost all have diesel engines.
These were the sales numbers for mid sized and full sized trucks in October
Toyota Hilux - 4.736 unidades
Ford Ranger - 3.817 unidades
Chevrolet S10 - 2.660 unidades
VW Amarok - 1.141 unidades
Fiat Titano - 795 unidades
Mitsubishi L200 - 784 unidades
Nissan Frontier - 344 unidades
RAM 2500 - 215 unidades
RAM 3500 - 160 unidades
BYD Shark - 143 unidades
Chevrolet Silverado - 84 unidades
RAM 1500 - 49 unidades
Ford F-150 - 42 unidades
Similar to Australia US Pickups are mainly lifestyle vehicles
Interesting. I wonder whom the the target market might be?
TFT. Best description is 'Work Duty" ! ! Maybe an LC77 'Work Mate' alternative. Ranger W/D Failed On Race Day ? ? V.
Love. “Work Duty”
I think they should bring it over. Variety is the spice of life and there are more reasons than just towing and payload to buy an F150. Remember this is the reason they got rid of the ranger a few years ago. They thought the F150 would cover that segment, it did not, and the Tacoma took over.
Ford needs to bring back the Ford Ranger Tremor to the United Stares before they start doing HD! Bring out the Tremor next year then HD! People especially young people now a days love going off road and overlanding a ford tremor would fix this for ford and bring in a whole new community since a lot of people can’t afford a Ford Ranger Raptor
As an Australian I'm excited
I was a huge GM/Ford truck guy over the years. Once deciding to go to a midsize truck for my needs. I had to go to Toyota Tacoma to get a midsize crew cab with 6 ft bed
I just wonder if these stupid ass manufacturers are going to knock 10-20K off the price so people can afford them!
Just get a Maverick for $28k
@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit hell no, I got a real truck a 3rd gen Tacoma TRD off-road 4X4 that will actually last a long time no turbos + manual transmission. It's far from a perfect truck it's rough around the edges like a truck should be I like it. My ex had a 2022 Maverick hybrid I don't know how but it has a 500 lb payload higher than my Tacoma and we took a long road trip with 4 full-size adults & the bed loaded up with 150-180 lb of gear & we still averaged 29 MPG, I was driving around 90 mph a lot of the trip! It's easy to change the 🛢️ & air filter on that Maverick so it has some nice pro's! Solid 💪 lil vehicle
@@honda116969 the Hybrid Maverick doesn’t have turbos…
@@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit
Never seen a maverick under 30k. Hugely disappointing because it was supposed to start at 20k.
@@honda116969 honestly bro I would rather have 50% more mpg and just get a Maverick also it’s an American brand
Manual transmissions are cool but overrated the only real benefit now is weight reduction for another 1 or 2 mpg but Maverick gets way better than 1 or 2 mpg better compared to Tacoma
Also if bed is too small you just get a bed extender or trailer if you had to even
It would be the go-to vehicle for people who want to tow, but don’t want a full-size truck. 10,000 pound towing capacity with 2,000 payload would be amazing in a Ranger body!
Try 4000lb
@ 4000 pound payload?
@@brianaustin1328 2 tonnes 4,400lb. Other companies in Australia do conversions on similar midsize trucks they get those sort of payloads
Some guys have already commented on the Super Duty Ranger here in Australia saying it needs a V8 but IDK. IMHO it just needs a torquey diesel. I guess a coyote would be kinda nice...but is there enough room in the Ranger engine bay?
Lets be real, it makes a lot of sense for the US CONSUMER as well but as you said it would take from F-150 sales and then Ford would not be able to claim best selling truck when anyone that pays attntion already knows if you count Chevy and GMC 1500 which are the same trucks they outsell the F-150.
They need to bring it here pickups are getting too big and need capability in a smaller size
Over in Europe Rangers look to have the Ford 9 inch axles and only come as diesels. They run them like 3/4 tons hauling skid steers and mini excavators and other heavy loads. Pretty impressive.
Make videos about your Tundra
How about a Super Duty Everest to the US! I'd buy one in a heartbeat. I loved my 2019Ranger. But what I'd really like is the PHEV version of the Ranger, but especially a PHEV Everest. I had to buy a KIA PHEV!
That’s cool!
F150s in Australia are $100,000-$150000, f350 platinum is towards $300000. Our government puts a lot of tax on these trucks and our dollar is low compared to the usd. A ranger that could carry 2ton like the old f350's in a cab chassis for a flat bed would be awesome, i think it would sell well here in Australia. As another coment said our parking and a lot of places we go are not well suited for the size of the US Trucks, sadly a Big Country that gets devided up into little tiny pieces of land . Love yiur show guys, keep up the good work!!!
I'm thinking of starting a private wildland firefighting company. I used to be a BLM firefighter. These would be perfect for my needs. A smaller truck is better for getting to remote areas.
I believe the target customers in Australia include industries such as mining, forestry and firefighting.
Given that you can buy an actual Super Duty f250 xl 4x4 extended cab with the xl and fx4 off road packages for around $54K and a 6.8 and the ranger raptor can be more expensive I shutter to guess at the pricing of the ranger super duty.
I know Toyota use to offer trucks with these capacities in the U.S. but I don't remember any of the other small trucks doing so.
As we learn more, I’d love to see a y’all do a comparison between the size of the Super Duty Ranger and the ‘97 and ‘04 generation F-150s and the capabilities of same.
Ford can gain sales right now if they offered the crew cab 6 foot bed ranger. Easier to get into the bed. Better for city delivery and off road, etc. But they aren't. So this is like story time.
Could make sense in Europe too. Our streets are thinner, or narrower. So a smaller Pickup with the capeability of a bigger truck could work out here too 🤔
I'd hope this does come to the U.S because this may be a gateway for a barra engine to be remanufactured
Amazing Ford AU builds what customers want, not so much in US.
A super duty Ranger would honestly be more appealing than a F-150 to me. Full sized trucks are just awkwardly large for what I need a truck to do.
An Izuzu D Max heavy duty model will beat this to a pulp....and the standard version is already good as well...even considering it's issues...
Sure, they'll bring it to the US, but they'll F-up the ability to build a useful one. Just like not being able to order towing mirrors on the max tow powerboost. So, you can have the 'Superduty' but you won't be able to spec things like a hitch or brake controller, because...Ford. Or you'll have to pony up for a fully optioned Lariat model and spend more than you would on an F150. (Posted by a happy 2020 Ranger Owner.).
On the other hand, if they did bring it, and let me order it in a fairly basic model, I'd be first in line. Just like I'd be first in line for a PHEV Ranger. Sadly, it looks like I'll just be keeping my 2020 until the wheels fall off.
Cool! But what I would like to see is a mid-sized truck with just a couple more inches of rear leg room. I loved my Tacoma but as my kids grew and my dog got chubbier...I needed more space and traded for a Tundra. Love them both but I miss the Tacoma size.
The 9920lb GVWR makes it heavy enough to be commercially deductible in the US. Thats a BIG deal.
Now that half-ton trucks start at $50k+, if Ford brought a commercially deductible midsize to the US market they's sell 'em like umbrellas in a rainstorm.
I think the concept of a ranger super duty is appropriate for the Australian market regarding its competition, which, in this case would be predominantly a vehicle, the size of the traditional Nissan Patrol and Toyota Land Cruiser.
Both of which are bigger than the traditional midsize pick up truck but not as fat as the traditional American full-size truck. It is purpose belt for duty and has a simple straightforward form following function design.
Dang. I was really hoping to have a higher payload midsize truck in America. Can't stand how wide full sized trucks have gotten
Basically they are bringing back the F-100 .. just calling it a Ranger.
No, not at all. This thing has 1700 lbs higher GVWR than the stoutest F150 had.
A 9920 lb GVWR like this Ranger SD has is basically the same as an F250.
The postal workers might like the looks of this right hand drive ranger more than the Next Generation Delivery Vehicle.
New teaser dropped with off road gravel track being traversed showing 8 lug wheel/hubs, suggesting f250 rear axle under the back and aluminium front lower control arm on front, looks like they are serious! At least on the pre-production mule they are filming…
Ford needs to make a truck without recalls.
I like Rangers, but this would be really redundant in the US. Great everywhere else though.
With cafe standards it seems like it makes sense to bring it here. They aren't really losing sales of an f150 buyer chooses one.
To me, it wouldn't make sense because you know it will be more than a basic F150 and not even tow as much.
Except a 4000lb Payload
F150 are expensive in Australia because of the conversion
Lack of payload, off road ability and bit fuel hungry
@robertryan7204 that too. But the increased towing cability is popular. Ranger is really a 3 ton tow vehicle. A lot of Australians over load their utes, as to tow 3.5t you basically have an empty ute.
@Christoph1888 Yes you those 6x6 conversions. Very stable but similar specs to this Ranger
Oh man I'd want one if they brought it here
Car market is wild right now
I don’t see why you already have the F150 and the real super duty
They would sell a ton here. Not sure why 1/2 trucks keep getting bigger. Park a 1990’s f150 next to a 2020’s f150. They had 5.0 and 5.8 then, now it’s 3.5 and 5.0. The new Ranger is closer in size with the old f150’s.
Man I’m sooooo mad 😡 I would love this new truck
This makes no sense. If you need more capacity you get a bigger truck. I would be willing to bet that this ranger super duty wouldn't be much cheaper than the bigger trucks
Would need a longer bed and bigger fuel tank to be viable. My F150 has a 700 mile range empty, and over 500 carrying a pop-up camper and full GVWR. Ranger has half the fuel capacity.
Not in Australia it is a big country
@@robertryan7204 What are you going on about?? Australia is as big as the continental US, and the Ranger STILL has a tiny tank.
@kiplambel4052 think about what you just posted Australia is as big as the continental us do you think the ranger has a small tank to cover vast distances in Australia
@@robertryan7204 I've tried to explain the limits of an 18 gallon tank to you twice now. You're dismissed.
@kiplambel4052 How about the most popular vehicle in Australia is the Ford Ranger. So your criticism about a small tank makes no sense for travelling in a vast country like Australia
They should make a heavy duty solid axle f150. Ive got a f150 and a super duty like both but for me the ideal truck would be a combination of the two.
I hope they see the light and offer single cab and extra cab variants not the usual Ford Australia aproach of dual cab only on all bar base and xlt variants . 2 tonne payload in a dual cab would be great to watch go down the road
It wouldn’t sell as well as people think it would in the US. Even if it had the 3.0 diesel, it’s still slower than the 2.3 ecoboost in the US and the ride would be terrible. Plus, the countries it’s produced for have towing speed limits of 100km/h or lower. So there really isn’t any real appeal when you compare it to our roads, truck options and value.
No they do not you can tow over 100kmh in Australia
bummer - more capable mid sized would be nice, or a midsized with actually good range and bigger fuel tank
No,it don't make sense...I wish they bring Ranger Diesel in North America...course I couldn't afford it anyway
There actually is. It was the older gen Ford Ranger available with a diesel that came out in Mexico, which is part of North America.
@damiangutierrez9103 yeah,I remember them..they was ok too
@damiangutierrez9103 they didn't have junk on them like the newer ones got
@charlessmith1677 A good friend of my family has a first-generation Ford Ranger Raptor with a diesel. But this latest Gen Ranger only comes with gas engines now.
Small enough to get in and out of tight situations with full-size payload capabilities. SOLD
Here’s my thing, let’s face it, full size trucks are over priced and mid sized is what most people NEED, unless they are working class and pulling large trailers more than “deadheading” or running no load, and the ONLY reason I want a full size truck is the cabin or room inside the cab, I don’t like their fuel economy, and because I enjoy off-roading, most trails will scratch a full size more so than a midsize, and I wish all the auto manufacturers would make the cabin bigger (longer and a few inches taller) since I have a baby, the car seat takes up SO MUCH ROOM! But I like that some trucks are getting their respectable sizes because midsize trucks are more capable than they are rated.
One could make the case that the Ranger Super Duty would come here, because people would gravitate toward a more capable work truck that is smaller and easier to park than an F-150. That said, knowing how many 5-person crews are running around and that they will fit much better in an F-150 than a Ranger (likely only 4-person) indicates that there would be too many parities between a US Ranger SD and F-150 for offering the former to make sense. All the customers coming in to dealers would ask "Why?", and the sales persons - with managers already indisposed to hate interacting with Ford - will just not sell them because everyone knows "F-150" 3X better than "Ranger".
The Ranger SD makes a (extra ton) more sense in AU.
If the F150 was as big in the 1990's answers your question
Probably investing in ranger upgrade rather than F150 because:
1. The main market the ranger is aimed at is Right Hand Drive.
2. Most people in Australia etc, can't afford an F150 250 350 due to RHD Conversion costs.
3. Australian Drivers License weight limit category's don't match America.
4. In America buying a F150 and above is more realistically affordable.
In my opinion the LR license weights should be covered under the car license. I would be more concerned with licensing people to tow 2 tone or over as their is more likely hood they will become unstuck due to ignorance of what creates trailer sway, extra stopping distance etc.
If we could have relative American vehicle pricing and licensing, I'd prefer to see:
Payload Tow
Ranger 1 tone 2.5 tone
F150 1.5 tone 3.5 tone
F250 2 tone 4.5 tone
F350 2.5 / 3 tone 5.5 tone
This is the scheme to raise the price of the F150
we are getting news about the 2026 ranger before info on the 2025 Tacoma, thats crazy
I like the idea, but don't like the thought of plug in hybrids. Plug in hybrids so expensive in repairs that diesel with after treatment systems ate cheaper options, thats saying alot... Love the breaking news info you guys do.
Ranger super duty Ford is creative at getting your money.
It would be crazy to see. Ford has hit some snags in the market and maybe they're willing to make a limited run for it.
But the F150 fills the mold and has for years.
Would love an hd ranger. Use mine for some work. Just an extra 1000lb paymoad and extra 2k tow would be perfect! I know f150, but f150 big and expensive. But, like it says, not for us. I mean the U.S. they wont want to jeopardize the f series
easier to park & carry bunch of stuff! cool! I tow rv with my f150 and appreciate the width, visibility, stability. but parking can be a pain sometimes.
It is kinda of interesting truck as it may look like F350 Super Duty mini addition