Hope Ford make the wheelbase at least 300mm longer than at present. There is too much overhang when a tray is fitted and too much down force on the trailer hitch.
New Zealand & Australia are unique with the fact we're the only RHD countries in the world that officially sell full-size American trucks. That being said, for the average truck buyer in either country, these American trucks are not an option due to how expensive they are. The Ranger Superduty will be the perfect alternative for those looking for a truck that has more towing/hauling capability than a traditional mid-size truck, but without having the size or price tag of a full-size truck. The Ranger Superduty will essentially bridge the gap between mid-size & full-size trucks in New Zealand & Australia.
I'm from Romania and I will very happy to have this Super Duty Ranger here in order to convert him to an Off-Road Camper without restrictions of weights of normal Ranger :-)
@@Instamatic898 Fors Ranger is quite popular here. I don't have exact data on whether it's the best-selling pick-up, but it's probably in the top 2 along with the Hilux.
It will need something better that the current V6 diesel. I have a 20yr old superduty and it's a beast. 7.3 litres of happiness. I look forward to seeing what they do with the engine and trans
I have an 05 7.3. On paper, the Ranger with 600 Nm and more ratios in the transmission would perform adequately compared to the 684 Nm and 4 speed auto in our trucks. Modern diesels also rev much higher. (We love our 7.3, though.)
I would assume it could get a beefed up version of the diesel with upgraded crank, pistons, turbo, oil cooling, radiator, intake, and possibly hybrid system. Also a 10R80 or 10R100 transmission, instead of the 10R60.
@@trickster8635 honestly I think Ford should do a regular diesel and a hybrid diesel for it. Using the electric motor from the F150 Power Boost, it would have around 730 Nm torque. I’m sure Ford is looking at EREV for down the road, which the F-series Super Duty will get.
awesome, love the GVM and the GCM of the new Ford as we need it here in Aus with boats and caravans getting bigger and all the toys that go with travelling our big trips
True, it’s been a long time since we have had a useable long bed like falcon and Holden utes nearly a decade ago. If they made a Ranger Raptor in 2 door space cab I’d already have one.
My whole life I have sworn to never own a ford. This has opened my curiosity. Get rid of all the modern electrics bull crap in all the modern vehicle choices to help add reliability and serviceability when out west. Live axles, easy access to work on it when adding personal mods. Put a decent bigger diesel motor and I might just consider trading in the 79. Simple. Reliable. Affordable Ford could take over Toyota and own the market
I like the reliability and toughness of the live axle. As far as load capacity, I’m not an engineer so can’t comment strongly but I would have thought it would be a higher load capacity. Otherwise why don’t trucks have independent rear suspension to raise to load capacity. Handling, not a problem, I don’t plan to use it as a race truck. Clearance, yes and no, when independent suspension compressors it actually puts the belly of the engine bay closer to the ground so there is an argument both ways there but all the serious off road vehicles, rock crawlers etc run live axle front and rear
I doubt this Ranger will tare under 2.5 t after raiding the F250 parts bin for rear axle, 18 inch steelies, heavy duty leaf springs, bigger brakes, and chassis reinforcement. If the payload is 2 t that would be absolutely incredible; even 1.8 t puts it in a class of its own. F350 only has 1.7 t payload typically.
I told many YT comments that this would between F150 n F250 because stud pattern of 8 lug nuts is on F250, n to pull that weight, plus wider track. Yes they said it has Ranger body, but the body width could depends on ADR rules, any guard over 2 inches i think would illegal, remember these are mules not final road production. Given it would be 2026 when release its going through full testing, so what else is it hiding?
from what I can see the super duty ranger is going to use a 9.75 ford rear end ( from the spy photos you can see the diff cover ) which is probably going to be a full float variant
@trickster8635 the 9.75 have been in the market for a long time so there be anything from auto lockers to air lockers available, but I believe they will either put in an e locker or a lsd and then simulate a diff lock with the abs system
We get watered down gassers here in the USA. We do not have any diesel variant of Toyota Land Cruisers, no diesel Ranger, no diesel Ineos Grenadier, and many other diesel variants have been canceled including BMW and Mercedes. Diesels have essentially been replaced in smaller vehicles with complex and expensive hybrid systems. A consumer must get a 2500 or larger (except the Sierra or Silverado 1500) if they want a diesel powered truck.
And if you lot stopped buying those prehistoric, crap for money shit-boxes, then Toyota might start to think about re-engineering them. But because they keep rolling out the door as shit-boxes, Toyota laughing all the way to the bank.
The problem with cruisers is the price not the prehistoric design. That's good on a farm ute less breakables. Think of the 80s hilux earning it's unbreakable reputation or inter trucks and Holden one tonners before that ( simple reliable etc). The idea of a super duty ranger sounds good but we'll have to wait and see.
They haven't given any clues about engines just yet, but looking at what the intended customers (commercial operators) prefer, it's either going to be the biturbo 2.0L or the 3.0L V6. Out of those two, I feel like the V6 would make more sense given they're talking about big towing capacities and payloads.
Hope Ford make the wheelbase at least 300mm longer than at present. There is too much overhang when a tray is fitted and too much down force on the trailer hitch.
This makes way too much sense, especially for towing, so it probably won't happen.
New Zealand & Australia are unique with the fact we're the only RHD countries in the world that officially sell full-size American trucks. That being said, for the average truck buyer in either country, these American trucks are not an option due to how expensive they are.
The Ranger Superduty will be the perfect alternative for those looking for a truck that has more towing/hauling capability than a traditional mid-size truck, but without having the size or price tag of a full-size truck. The Ranger Superduty will essentially bridge the gap between mid-size & full-size trucks in New Zealand & Australia.
Add Off Road ability
I'm from Romania and I will very happy to have this Super Duty Ranger here in order to convert him to an Off-Road Camper without restrictions of weights of normal Ranger :-)
Is the Ranger a popular vehicle in Romania?
@@Instamatic898 Fors Ranger is quite popular here. I don't have exact data on whether it's the best-selling pick-up, but it's probably in the top 2 along with the Hilux.
It will need something better that the current V6 diesel.
I have a 20yr old superduty and it's a beast. 7.3 litres of happiness. I look forward to seeing what they do with the engine and trans
I have an 05 7.3. On paper, the Ranger with 600 Nm and more ratios in the transmission would perform adequately compared to the 684 Nm and 4 speed auto in our trucks. Modern diesels also rev much higher.
(We love our 7.3, though.)
I would assume it could get a beefed up version of the diesel with upgraded crank, pistons, turbo, oil cooling, radiator, intake, and possibly hybrid system. Also a 10R80 or 10R100 transmission, instead of the 10R60.
Is 600Nm from the 6 cylinder not enough for you?
@@trickster8635 honestly I think Ford should do a regular diesel and a hybrid diesel for it. Using the electric motor from the F150 Power Boost, it would have around 730 Nm torque. I’m sure Ford is looking at EREV for down the road, which the F-series Super Duty will get.
8 wheels nuts or studs (not lug nuts) normally indicated a stronger and more heavy duty axle setup.
Wonder what the actual tyre size is. Ford are saying 33" but there are none on general website
@@kromey111 it's 275/70r18
@ wow ok a 33.2" tyre that’s good. Must be the AT/X
awesome, love the GVM and the GCM of the new Ford as we need it here in Aus with boats and caravans getting bigger and all the toys that go with travelling our big trips
They better make a god damn space cab not just a 4 door or single cab
Agree, I am so sick of Dual Cabs, and only being able to get xtra cab in 4cyl, I don't want the 4cyl
True, it’s been a long time since we have had a useable long bed like falcon and Holden utes nearly a decade ago. If they made a Ranger Raptor in 2 door space cab I’d already have one.
I would like to see a live axle front end. Keep it simple and strong. It has served the 79 series into the current market
My whole life I have sworn to never own a ford. This has opened my curiosity. Get rid of all the modern electrics bull crap in all the modern vehicle choices to help add reliability and serviceability when out west. Live axles, easy access to work on it when adding personal mods. Put a decent bigger diesel motor and I might just consider trading in the 79.
Simple. Reliable. Affordable
Ford could take over Toyota and own the market
Live axle adds too much unsprung weight up front. That impacts load capacity, handling and clearance problems for differentials and driveline.
I like the reliability and toughness of the live axle. As far as load capacity, I’m not an engineer so can’t comment strongly but I would have thought it would be a higher load capacity. Otherwise why don’t trucks have independent rear suspension to raise to load capacity. Handling, not a problem, I don’t plan to use it as a race truck. Clearance, yes and no, when independent suspension compressors it actually puts the belly of the engine bay closer to the ground so there is an argument both ways there but all the serious off road vehicles, rock crawlers etc run live axle front and rear
what a shame we won't be getting a variant of the power stroke....just a stroke when that v6 grenades itself
I doubt this Ranger will tare under 2.5 t after raiding the F250 parts bin for rear axle, 18 inch steelies, heavy duty leaf springs, bigger brakes, and chassis reinforcement. If the payload is 2 t that would be absolutely incredible; even 1.8 t puts it in a class of its own. F350 only has 1.7 t payload typically.
I told many YT comments that this would between F150 n F250 because stud pattern of 8 lug nuts is on F250, n to pull that weight, plus wider track. Yes they said it has Ranger body, but the body width could depends on ADR rules, any guard over 2 inches i think would illegal, remember these are mules not final road production. Given it would be 2026 when release its going through full testing, so what else is it hiding?
ADR rules are currently in modification so we can get wider semi-trucks on the roads, currently the newer semi's are 50mm over our rules.
Canada please! Even though we have lots of extra space
from what I can see the super duty ranger is going to use a 9.75 ford rear end ( from the spy photos you can see the diff cover ) which is probably going to be a full float variant
But will need to have the ability to be locked, otherwise it will slip behind the market.
@trickster8635 the 9.75 have been in the market for a long time so there be anything from auto lockers to air lockers available, but I believe they will either put in an e locker or a lsd and then simulate a diff lock with the abs system
The Ranger’s current engines are under done for the weights proposed . This thing will need 700 nm plus in torque.
No, not with 10 gears. 600Nm at 1750rpm is more than enough. If you are still skeptical, then go and test drive one.
They used the Ranger in the F150 which had a higher GCM
We get watered down gassers here in the USA. We do not have any diesel variant of Toyota Land Cruisers, no diesel Ranger, no diesel Ineos Grenadier, and many other diesel variants have been canceled including BMW and Mercedes. Diesels have essentially been replaced in smaller vehicles with complex and expensive hybrid systems. A consumer must get a 2500 or larger (except the Sierra or Silverado 1500) if they want a diesel powered truck.
It's a shame you guys don't get any good diesels over there.
The mines will grab them all first. A Ranger with 4.5t towing 😅😅 it's still a Ranger, a bit on the light vehicle side.
Ranger in name only. The thing is re-engineered FFS!
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it will be produce in tailand so I can't see no reason that super duty can't be for tailand
they better not still use those capped lugg nuts omg 🤦🤦🤦🤦
Meanwhile my Isuzu truck only has 5 studs
Sure it has, but at a much larger stud diameter.
Thank goodness that, as primary producers, we will have a choice instead of the embarrassingly prehistoric and crap-value-for-money Landcruiser 79.
And if you lot stopped buying those prehistoric, crap for money shit-boxes, then Toyota might start to think about re-engineering them. But because they keep rolling out the door as shit-boxes, Toyota laughing all the way to the bank.
The problem with cruisers is the price not the prehistoric design. That's good on a farm ute less breakables. Think of the 80s hilux earning it's unbreakable reputation or inter trucks and Holden one tonners before that ( simple reliable etc). The idea of a super duty ranger sounds good but we'll have to wait and see.
What choice of engines is Ford going to offer.
They haven't given any clues about engines just yet, but looking at what the intended customers (commercial operators) prefer, it's either going to be the biturbo 2.0L or the 3.0L V6. Out of those two, I feel like the V6 would make more sense given they're talking about big towing capacities and payloads.
I hope they don't use a rubber belt to drive the oil pump lol.
Twin turbo 460 big-block, dude.
@@Instamatic898 A 2 litre motor? Must be hugely stressed.
@@anthony-1357 2 litre won't suffice on a 8 ton gcm