This is Different! - Boundless Voyage Titanium Mess Kit - Ultralight Kit Review
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- Опубліковано 4 вер 2023
- What I have here today is a titanium mess kit that’s quite interesting - as you are about to see this is an ultralight versatile kit - versatile in multiple ways.
With this kit we have two containers, one I call a pot the other I call a cup.
Did I mention that you can hang these over a fire?
Oh yeah, very interesting indeed.
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Boundless Voyage Mess Kit :
Materials : Titanium pot and cup, polyester storage bag,
Versions :
600ml + 300ml kit
750ml + 400ml kit
Kits : I should mention that this is the mess kit - there is a canteen version that includes an actual water canteen and a canvas carry kit - it is substantially more expensive at $130.
Price :
600ml + 300ml kit : $50
750ml + 400ml kit : $55
Size :
600ml + 300ml :
Full kit : 4” tall x 5.5” wide x 3.5” deep
Weight :
600ml + 300ml Version :
Total Kit : 8.2oz
600ml Pot : 3.6oz
300ml Cup : 2.2oz
Lid : 1.0oz
Pot hang and storage bag : 1.1oz
Review Pros :
- Price is fair in my opinion when you consider the fact that you are getting a 600ml pot along with a 300ml pot.
- Very lightest
- Small form factor
- Excellent quality - no issues with heating - warping, cooking, edges, etc.
- Pot and Cup are of a good size for most tasks.
- Very versatile kit - take with you what you need depending on the trip - you can take the pot for cooking, the cup for coffee or the rest of the kit if you have others with you or if you need both components.
- Very smart design - the way that the system stakes is smart.
- The way that the system can hang over a fire is also smart.
- Good size storage bag - it fits everything with ease.
- Enough room inside of the large pot for additionals.
- Good handles - comfortable enough
- Grab tab on the lid stands up and doesn’t fall over.
- Stable system - flat bottom
Review Cons :
- Lid doesn’t have a vent so once boiling begins there can be some chaos.
- The shape of the kit makes stirring whatever it is that you are heating up or cooking difficult. Not impossible but it does take a bit more work. In a round pot or cup, you can get some good swirling action - the shape of this system isn’t conducive of swirling.
Summary :
Boundless Voyage has impressed me with this kit - it’s ultralight, high quality and I can easily recommend it.
The full kit weighs very little and can be scaled down based upon your needs and the adventure that you are going on.
Considering the materials and the design, the price is fair and ultimately, there isn’t much to complain about; I can easily recommend it.
BTW, this mess kit is being sold by Boundless Voyage - other Chinese companies offer this exact same kit with the exact same components - the only difference is the logo.
In other words this is a re-label - I can’t comment about the similar products. I suspect they will be exactly the same but there could be quality control differences.
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I think the name is fine. In the Army, we had a “canteen cup”. It’s just a cup/pot that can fit a canteen inside. The naming is consistent, not confusing.
But will it fit in to the cover with a canteen? This review SUCKED!!!
EDIT; On par with a trail walker!!! LOL
@@leebenson4874
1. Yes it does.
2. Not at all.
3. Based on your listing of comments you're a know nothing, done nothing troll.
Sometimes I feel like he likes to go off on tangents or likes to nitpick depending upon the manufacturer. I have never once seen him be hyper critical on Fjallraven products even when they’re clearly garbage. I’ve seen him be fair with their products, but not nitpicky. The Fjallraven Wind Sack review comes to mind. He quite literally gave the thing three chances and it failed all three times. If this was a different manufacturer (Coleman or Kelty), after the first fail he would’ve stopped.
Agreed.
A case of 'chirping' for the sake of. Much ado over nothing.
Someone with a military background may understand that, but others may not. He said there a lot of Amazon reviews from people who were confused by the naming, so it's a fair criticism.
Canteen mess kit is exactly what it is. The mess kit that fits a canteen. Also there are two definitions of Canteen, one of which is a military camp restaurant.
Or any food service area really. We had a canteen in high school.
The name and the shape make perfect sense to me since it is designed so that you can nest a army canteen inside it (the kidney shape ones). And that's exactly how i use mine (the lid goes on the bottom and its a perfect fit).
It fits in a canteen carrier?
@@kurtrussell5228 Depends on the carrier. if your original cup is narrower on the bottom, and you have the snug fit type of a carrier, then it's a struggle and the lid will not fit on the bottom. i use MFH Mole Utility pouch and it fits the canteen set with a MFH canine nested with no problem (even has space to put a small wood oven in it).
I will 2nd what everyone is saying about the name. I don't find anything confusing about it. The name is accurate in my opinion. You can put the kit in a military canteen cover/pouch and place a military canteen inside to carry or transport. As to the shape, it's shaped like that so it contours to the body when worn typically in the kidney area on a duty belt.
In case you are living on this Planet, but not in the US
Metric Weight Units:
Total Kit : 8.2oz = 232g
600ml Pot : 3.6oz = 102g
300ml Cup : 2.2oz = 62g
Lid : 1.0oz = 28g
Pot hang and storage bag : 1.1oz = 31g
For the US guys, 300ml are 10 liquid ounzes
Instead of drilling holes I just put lid on offset , works for me , that way when stored don’t worry about trash getting inside
I like the shape. Will fit better in a pack than a traditional pot that is a full circle.
Canteen (n): a restaurant provided by an organization such as a military camp, college, factory, or company for its soldiers, students, staff, etc. In that sense, this is exactly what this mess kit represents: a mess kit you could use for food service and consumption from the unit/company/school canteen. As others have mentioned, it also fits the shape of some (perhaps older) canteens (as in Canteen (n) 2: a small water bottle, as used by soldiers or campers) that are (or were) issued to soldiers in the US Army and other organizations. It looks as though if you put the lid at the bottom, you could fit this kit inside the old LBE hip canteen cover, and fit the 1L canteen inside it. Name seems perfectly reasonable to me.
Canteen is synonymous with mess. Historically, a canteen was the mess hall.
The more you know !!
I just reviewed the 1000ml titanium mess tin and 800ml titanium mess tin from Tomshoo. Ebikecnx7239
I like that you correct your grammar. I always contend that if you broadcast you have an obligation to use proper English, as many people watch whose first language is not English and they're trying to learn and can use your language as a guide through their learning. Keep up the good work.
I appreciate that you actually use a product before you give a review. It's impossible for 1 person to do this for every product. I feel like I should be paying you for doing this. The time savings and money savings alone is worth its weight in salt. Thank you and stay special interest free!!!!!
It would've been nice to see how the hanging part works. I feel like it would be hard to keep level, especially with the shorter pot. But maybe thats why it's shaped that way.
The canteen cup cookset is the way to go. The two cups, the lid, the cable, and... wait for it... a 1100ml canteen. Fits well in the Helikon-tex Essentials pouch.
I have the set with a Nalgene canteen for the last 2 years. Yes GI style canteen fits in it. It is a great set for camping and is rather sturdy. I almost lost a handle when washing in a large bin at a gathering with lots of people. The two cups make it a great set although I wish it came with two lids. I recommend it with a GI style canteen.
Glad that you had the balls, and intelligence, to make that clear.
Luke has pissed me off on several occasions with his blatant ignorance.
Thank you for your recommendation !!!
I also ha have kit with a Nalgene canteen and I love it .but I had to shop around and find an extra component that fit the base making it all together four peace set not including the lid. The component is a wood or hidroxan stove bottom and it all works together nicely . S and H ...CHEERS....
I guess a lot of people like titanium but honestly I prefer my BCB crusader kit. For the same price as your, you get a canteen cup, a canteen, a plastic cup, a stove and a camo carry bag and it all nestles together. Whereas this one states it cant all nestle together when you buy the bigger kit eg. The canteen flask and the two cups with no stove!
Nothing wrong with a stainless steel set so long as you don’t mind the bit of extra weight. I also have a Solo Stove with pot that is stainless. I did swap out the lid for a titanium one to save a bit of weight, but it is great otherwise.
Oh my gosh, you made my day when you corrected your grammar to "...there ARE no vents..."! Correct grammar and spelling were drilled into me from elementary school to grad school, and it drives me CRAZY when presenters (including newscasters!) use incorrect grammar. So, well done, you. Also, thank you for your review. :)
I've had this kit with the canteen for about 6 months. Absolutely love it. It comes with a very decent bag and shoulder strap. Not mesh, a real bag.
I’ve got the “valtcan” (Amazon cheapo)version of this and it is great. The “pan” part has a fold under handle rather than butterfly handle. Love it. Never used the hanging wire though.
This is an update of the German & other European Military issue mess kit.. If you shop around you can get the full set which includes a cooking systems . This system has been in use from just after WW1.
Yes, I've got some of these (I'm from Hungary). Lot european nations got these, with a bit difference each. It's a great versatile thing, but the heat loss is not so good due to its shape. But comfortable to bring in the original military "canteenbag" close to your body.
Aren't those canteen sizes standardized by NATO as well?
About the name, I understand where everyone is coming from. However, at 68 I grew up with a canteen mess kit just about like this and have looked for years to one similar to it. I had a WWII canteen and under it was a mess kit just like that. It had a fold out handle and it all fit in the canteen pouch I wore on my military belt. So yes it is a canteen mess kit by all means. The canteen was and is a separate item. Two items, canteen, canteen mess kit. Also a wood stove kit is available as well. Add the three together and stack them high as you can.
Canteen is the correct term for this product. Canteen is not just a single utensil or container. Defined -"a restaurant provided by an organization such as a military camp, college, factory, or company for its soldiers, students, staff, etc." So canteen kit is accurate. But still as always, great vid and info!
It would be simple for Boundless Voyage to add: (Canteen not included).................. Great review, Luke. Thanks for sharing....
Several months ago I got the "full" version (1100 ml canteen + 750 ml pot + 400 ml cup + ventilated lid + hanging cable) for about 30 EUR from a kind of discount store (I'm pretty sure it was imported from Amazon for whatever reasons)
Brand new! All packed in a nice backpack where you can put the other cooking items.
I used it twice, very pleased with it!
Hey Luke another great review. These were made so that you can use either the cup or the pot with the Boundless Voyage Titanium Canteen; hence the name makes sense.
Great review. I. Have been buying this brand for several years. I started out with the canteen and pot system. Then I bought the system you tested. It balances the pack. Then came the coffee pot. Now, I have one complete system for each of my packs. I don't like having to move items around pack to pack. Also I've gotten used to the size servings and pack meals pre measured. Clean easy. I drilled small holes at one end of the lid as a strainer system. I am outfitting 5 more packs with this same system for family. I trust these items. Stay safe, stay strong.
That looks a very useful ‘Canteen Cup’ mess kit to me. I’m not confused with the name at all. Two pots is always useful, being able to eat from one whilst your coffee water is boiling up, great. Plenty of room to carry all sorts of stove gear within it too. What’s not to like? Oh and of course, it;s lightweight. I love it. Thanks.
I have the same kit, but mine has a canteen and I love it
For sure going to be checking this out. Seems very well thought out
Wow, I actually have that kit for years now. Kinda at least. I bought the canteen set and it actually came with a titanium canteen in addition to what you have. I really like that kit and I also use the canteen when I go to the gym for example. Although I'm always hesitant to bring fuel like esbit with me. Since you stack the big pot into the small, I don't want any strange resedue on the big pot when I put it on a fire. The canteen itself would be stacked into the bigger pot and it came with a canteen pouch. The lid would then be stored behind the canteen set in the pouch. Also, my lid actually has vents.
Good point about how they stack 👍🏻
At 73 years young, I'm not about to hike the Appilachian Trail, but I do many day to 3 day hikes. Weight is not a major concern for me, so Titaniam = Meh?
I have stailess steel pot & cup, both pruchased from Walmart, but I believe available on Amazon also. The Ozark Trail cup has the same type folding handles holds 18 oz. and goes for $5.47. My pot is a Stanley, 24 oz. comes with lid, and the handle locks in place to hold the lid on. Both are round, and the pot nests into the cup. Lots of room inside, as I carry a propane mini stove, lighter, matches, flint & steel, candle, and fire starter inside mine. And the price is less than half of the Boundless Voyage. Yes, it's 2 lbs, but unless you are very concerned with weight, it works. I was a Scout Master, and used this on camp outs, hunting, and just hiking for the past 20 or more years, and have yet to wear it out.
I know you said it didn't come with a canteen, however, since it is the shape of one, and is intended to be used with one, it would have been good to see you take an normal US issue canteen and show that it fits. Also, if you took a normal issue canteen cover and test that fit as well. Thanks for the review.
Clearly, he doesn't understand that this is how it is to be used. Despite being military.
Have one in my EDC. Pocket stove, P-35, and collapsible utensils stowed inside. Good piece of kit.
Thank You Luke, hi Susie, for introducing and testing these thing first us love GOD BLESS and so Appreciate You Aloha Always Sister Chrissy Honolulu HI
Canteen means something slightly differant outside of the states, and this kit fits its description perfectly
Ive had this for a couple years. I like it. Does the job. Mine came with a canteen and a molle pouch
The mesh bag is for dipping the kit into wash water to remove any suds, and for fast drying. The shape is the canteen shape of the US Army Canteen, which was originally designed to fit inside. The original had army belt buckles that they dropped in the Viet Nam ear, because soldiers found they Clanked with movement.
I've enjoyed TOGR for the last ten years but has anyone noticed how its gotten a little weird lately? I can't put my finger on it. Luke seems to be in his own echo chamber recently and seems to just want to go through the motions. I would like to see Luke get into some new activities. How about a guest or two? Hunting, fishing, canoeing, organic gardening, archery, bushcraft shelters, the list goes on and on.
I half agree with you. It is exactly what it says it is. A canteen mess kit. Not a canteen and mess kit. I will agree at first thought someone ordering this would expect a canteen to be included.
Sound and solid info thx 🙏
I have this mess kit and use it with a Nalgene Oasis Tritan canteen nested in it. Also a standard plastic military canteen will fit in it.
Amazing timing! Literally had this in my cart on Amazon, I’ll be sure to use your affiliate link!
I have this and a titanium cup .Great products
I was looking at that canteen set a couple years ago. The one with the actual canteen included. But I have a stainless set from years ago. My wife wouldn't let me get it. I did get a titanium emergency whistle from boundless voyage. Appreciate the product. Thanks for your video.
I think any of the names will work as per Webster's dictionary
noun ; a · a portable chest with compartments for carrying bottles or for cooking and eating utensils ; b · a flask for carrying liquids (as on a hike) ; c · mess kit.
Great episode, More adventures ahead.
Looks like an update European military cook set. Great product and the weight is awesome
Got it a few years back. The Nalgene "canteen" bottle (just 130gr) fits perfectly in mine, making it a very light complete kit.
I have a Boundless Voyage titanium 750ml round pot with lid for boiling water for dehydrated meals/coffee. Nested inside I have a SnowPeak brand green anodized 450ml titanium cup. Nested inside that I have an MSR pocket rocket 2. Works brilliant for all my needs.
great review video as always 👍
Fun and useful product
Nice review, Luke. I like that this system is titanium and that the cup/pot nest together. Also the hanging cable is nice.
According to other comments, and yours, there is a larger set that also includes/nests a kidney shaped canteen. If I were to buy this set I would get the larger one due to the included canteen and the apparent holes in the larger pot lid. (A steel/titanium canteen is great for purifying water as well as using it to keep warm in your sleeping bag).
The reasons I would not get this is due to what you said regarding the shape, which as stated makes stirring coffee/tea and making something in the pot, or holding the cup to drink from, awkward. The kidney shape also prevents nesting isobutane canisters or bottles of alcohol in the pot if you are using a gas or alcohol stove. There are many other companies, Snow Peak, Rock Creek, Toaks, and others that make round titanium pots/cups for those reasons listed and are of similar quality. Some even include a hanging handle.
I think buying this makes sense if you are getting the set with the canteen. Otherwise I would stick with my Toaks/Rock Creek pot/cup combo, unless you prefer something very small/compact.
Lid, upside down at the bottom of the bag, USGI canteen dropped in the top, all stashed neatly in a single pouch or tucked into a ruck. Done and done. I have a similar full-round system that fits in a small slingpack for over-the-shoulder carry or ladder compatible, depending on circumstance.
I think the shape lends itself to packing with a "flatpack" firebox, and may also accommodate other items inside better, circular and or rectangular.
I’ve had one of these for a while. If you get one, get the larger one. I really like mine but kick myself for not getting the larger version. Works great with my alcohol stove. Usually my go to for weekend trips.
Bought a two pan set from them and is very decent. Use it at lunch for work and camping
Very interesting piece of kit
I own three different canteens that fit this, so i bought this item years ago to use as a hiking cooking system. It works well, and all 3 canteens fit it well. No confusion here.
Luke, you surely have a couple of canteens...should have shown if they fit into the system.
Great video, Mahalo for sharing.
Hey Luke could you do a follow up video that shows what model canteens fit in this cup? I don't think the Pathfinder will fit, but I think regular issue army canteens and the Nalgene ones fit....Boundless also offers another set that has a bail handle on the cup and a stove, love to see your thoughts on that one too.
Thanks, Luke. There’s better out there…that are round. 😊. From northern Kentucky.
I bought a couple other things because much cheaper than other titanium items online I have been happy with all their products
Hello there! While I don’t have this particular set, I do have a another of their titanium cook sets for backpacking and I love it. I thought they were a very budget friendly alternative to the Snowpeak set I originally wanted. Stay well!
I believe it is called canteen because a US Army canteen is the same shape so it would fit inside of it
i have this set with a canteen and it is a great set. i have a great setup with this and a Gcc from Centerline system
I have this set and mine did come with both these pots and the Canteen which also nested into the set. In addition my set has 3 holes already in the lid. I have owned mine for about 5 months so maybe mine is updated since Luke’s but other than that I agree with Luke’s review, I love this kit and the Canteen has a good wide mouth on it making it useful for filling.
I also have the set that included the canteen and my lid also has the vent holes. I have it since early 2021 I think, so the version with the holes in it have been around for a while.
it is called a canteen mess kit because that is what the military designation for it was , designed to slide a standard issue kidney canteen into . Although they have taken some liberties with this design usually has no lid or secondary cup.
Love your video thank you
It's called that because it is the shape of a canteen ... which will fit a canteen perfectly....I' luv mine.
The first thing I thought when i saw it was "oh its a "cups/canteen"" but ive been around the military all my life.
LOVE IT GO JOB
I've started looking to re-build my kit for backpacking in 2024 so this was pretty useful. I think I'll stick to the round style though. I do like that you can hang this, though honestly i'm usually on an alcohol stove and not really burning anything to hang this over. Still something to think about and come up with a solution for with the round stuff. Take care
fish spreader, can use on a wide mouth water bottle, or a cup if it has two small holes drilled into it, or check out the bushcraft store billy can, or the pathfinder school stainless steel cup
I love boundless voyage, i dont have these, i do have their actual canteen kit which is shaped different and i carry with me everyday in my work bag. I have a bunch of their pots along with a couple different twig burners and grill plate. They have the better price and the lids all have lips that stay on the pots.
Looks like it would pair well with an Esbit folding stove.
I just got a set it has vents on the lid and a cammo bag, I also found their wide mouth canteen that nests inside it but it’s an additional 80 bucks
It is a Canteen Mess Kit because it has 2 components as opposed to just a Canteen Cup. It can be matched with a Canteen and Canteen Stove and put in a Canteen carrier to make a full Kit.
Nice kit. Looks very similar to the Pathfinder titanium canteen kit, minus the canteen.
I can see why they called it that. From above, the pots are kidney shaped, the same basic shape as a standard military canteen. I'm guessing a canteen can slip into the pots the same as the canteen cup that comes with military issue.
I have it and rather than buying the expensive water canteen, I just use my nalgene and it fits perfectly.
Very nice set great price on it as well
Looks like a decent piece of kit .
I have boundless voyage pot set
But they called it a pot and pan set but really it's just a 2 pot set lol
1 liter pot and a half liter pot .small pot is used as a lid for the big pot but it's not ideal .
Over all I was quite happy w the light weight titanium set. The price was decent 4 yrs ago any way.
Cheers
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This lid does not have vent holes for the reason of cooking steam rice. Any vents would allow the steam to evaporate away and not cook the rice properly. By having a snug seal, it acts as a mini pressure cooker, recycling the steam through every grain. You just have to remove the pot from the heat once the top lid is hot and let the steam do the work. The difference is night and day when it comes to cooking perfect rice between a vented lid and a sealed one.
As for the excuse of having water boil over, any camper with any decent experience would just canter the lid, unless it's someone who has never done any cooking in their lives.
The only drawback with this design, is that titanium doesn't retain heat well, and it takes some skill to get the temperature right to get fluffy rice with not pot stick.
*On page 2 of the Boundless Voyage website, the last item listed is what I consider to be the better canteen cooking set. Included in this set is....*
(1) titanium, 1100ml, military-style canteen with a wide mouth. Dimensions are 190mm (H) × 129mm (W) × 70mm (D). Weight is 160g.
(1) titanium, 750ml, large canteen cooking cup with two shouldered batwing handles. Dimensions are 96mm (H) × 140mm (W) × 84mm (D). Weight is 107g.
(1) titanium, 400ml, small canteen cooking cup with two butterfly style handles. Dimensions are 50mm (H) × 140mm (W) × 84mm (D). Weight is 80g.
Both canteen cups have double loop fittings on both of the narrow sides of the cup, which will accept the 2, l-shaped, offset hooks that are on both ends of the braided stainless steel pot suspension cable.
(1) titanium, lid with three drain holes, a d-ring loop folding handle, and a deeply recessed rim that snugs down over the rolled edge rims of the cups. No dimensions are listed, but when referencing similar lids for TOAKS and other titanium cookware, one can reliably assume that you can add 3-4 mm in both directions, with approximate measurements of 144mm (L) × 88mm (W). Weight is 38g.
There is an included synthetic fabric pouch and the total listed weight for the pouch, canteen, large cup, small cup, lid, and the braided wire pot suspension assembly is 557g.
I have the Valtcan kit with canteen. The lid has three holes.
Looks like it’s made to go with the military canteen. Throw the lid in the bottom, nest with canteen and put in the military pouch that’s made for it.
The word “canteen” is a proper location that sells or distributes food and drink as well as a drinking container. Generally used when referring to dining areas for institutions like schools, military, and hospitals. The word “canteen” can be used like this in a sentence: we are going to the canteen for lunch, would you like to go? Alternatively: can i have a drink from your canteen? mine has a hole in it.
The name is correct they sell a titanium canteen that fits within the nested containers and you put the lid at the bottom of the bag.
I have their canteen set and It’s a different shape it’s square shaped. This kit is designed off the USGI canteen cup.
The word "canteen" also means "dining hall" or "mess hall". Since you can take this wherever you're going and use it to prepare a meal, you're kind of carrying your mess hall with you. Maybe that's what they were thinking of with the name?
So, does a canteen fit inside this one, or not? If it does, then I would say that the name is accurate enough. If I buy a motorcycle trailer but no motorcycle is included (which most people would wouldn't expect), it doesn't mean it isn't a motorcycle trailer.
The Nalgene Oasis canteen fits in it. That’s what I use with mine.
I would love to know if the indentation on the lid serves any specific purpose.
I do have this kit. Very good kit. But They need to make available a titanium canteen that fits the set!
As others have written, canteen has more than one meaning, it is not limited to "an item that holds water and you drink from it"
Those are canteen cups, even if no drinking canteen is included.
Also, there is no vent on the lid, so you can use it for baking. Simply leave the lid a little ajar to vent.
FYI, I have no affiliation with this company, nor own any of their products. I'm just familiar with that category of product.
I got one with a canteen it comes in a mollie bag though
Cool
The company makes a round pot with a lid that is a fry pan, if you want to stir easier. I have a one liter pot with a five-and-a-half inch fry pan cover. The non-round shape is to carry next to your body, just like the old canteens.
Good review. The term "canteen" doesn't just refer to a drinking flask. It can also refer to a store, a bar, a mess kit, and, wait for it, a container.
I have there non stick pan am and I like it❤
A canteen is not just a drinking device. It is also a device used to carry bottles for cooking and eating utensils. But it does sound misleading 😊
Looks like they took inspiration from the BCB Crusader complete system. Which comes with stove, cup, canteen, cook pot, that is also kidney shaped.
have a couple questions will a canteen fit in it and if so will it fit in a cantee carrier
I beg to differ. I have the 3piece set - 1100ml canteen, 750ml pot and 400ml bowl. Boundless voyage.