Journalism: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2016
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Basically, every newspaper is becoming a Buzzfeed. THAT IS HORRIFYING.
Isn't this the case yet?
but buzzfeed has solid journalism tho
the people who want to be informed aren't a loud enough majority/minority to get through to the gatekeepers.
I commented that, but I deleted the comment in like 40 seconds after posting. Thank you for being the voice of a coward.
Exactly.. There are things people need vs things that people want!
Perhaps this explains why every story I've ever tried to read on a news app is riddled with obvious smelling miscakes and sentences that make no sausages.
Fredex haha
Fredex Under appreciatied comment
I'm waiting for the first comment that corrects those words. LOL.
Fredex.....you give me life
Why?...... Why did I laugh so hard at this comment
I would totally watch Stoplight.
The idea of a journalist fighting corruption in his own office actually isn’t bad.
Except that they told us the sad ending already
Season 5 of the Wire from David Simon
I'm curious but would this actually be considered corruption? More like capitalism I think.
Naw I just wanna see the raccoon cat
@@tajsamuellagulao7991 Does anyone else want to deliver the punchline to this setup?
"The next 10-15 years is gonna be a great time to be a corrupt politician." -David Simon
I was about to say. This dude pretty much called exactly what's happening right now
Spot on
Uh oh
- Dec, 2019
And it is.
@@cassidyeckman717 *cough cough*
- April, 2020
Funny, isn't it, that our world needs Clark Kent a lot more than Superman.
found my favourite comment on the internet
Tronc
If this was Reddit, I'd give this person gold - but since it's UA-cam, I'll just hand over an internet cake.
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Fuck, he was spot on with me watching this on the coffee shop wifi under my apartment.....
langewel Dude my dad is an editor at a newspaper and im watching this on free WiFi as well. Not kidding
Siddhant Jain lmao both of us.
We're all going to burn for this.....
thing is, this video now has millions of views with ads enables so will be making thousands of dollars so its still supporting the show a lot
I freaked out when you pointed at me. He's so correct
"I'm talking to *you*, the people that are watching this on UA-cam right now." He caught me. He caught all of us. Someone help- they found us! SEND BACKUP.
yeah he really got us...for watching the videos he chose to place here. jokes are fun...but they kinda do need to make sense.
Funny how he acts like a journalist yet he’s a subpar comedian who’s clearly biased
@@MrToymaster1 but he already said himself that this show isn't journalism but comedy that uses real journalism as sources to explain a topic
I thought he got me too, but my wifi comes from the _bar next door_ to my apartment, not a _cafe underneath._ Close one.
MrToymaster1
He never acted as a journalist, he admitted he wasnt one.
He act like a damp rat trying to make jokes out of numbers and pictures.
And he is bias af
But so long as they contain facts I can check for myself, shit is funny.
There's a reason that newspapers are sometimes called the 4th estate (branch of government) - they help to check the powers of the rest.
I’m not saying the premise is incorrect, but I’ve literally never once heard that saying.
@@joshemane I’ve heard it as the Fourth Estate instead of the “4th branch”, but the sentiment reads the same
Whe true, the lie everyday.....they're trusted about as much as much as the police and only have themselves to blame....
@@joshemane its def only a conspiracy theorist concept. either way everything is getting more complicated and ruined. i blame capitalism 100% for taking advantage.
No they are a bunch political activist hacks that are liberal bootlickers. The world will be a much better place when they are gone.
You either pay for journalism or you pay for not having journalism.
The sad part is that there are those, out there, who feel that news should be free, i.e. unpaid, so much so that they will watch the world disintegrate around them to achieve the goal of a "free" press. And don't think those in power aren't waiting in the wings, drooling, baring their canines, greedily anticipating a time when they will no longer be held accountable by smart, driven journalists. It's coming. Buy a newspaper subscription. I own three.
That's exactly what he said. You're not a visionary
Hairmetallurgist well, when news has been readily online and free with the click of a button for a decade, why would anyone want to pay?
Its a easy plan I think .... have two branches ... one that puts fluffy ass clickbaity stuff that keeps the revenue up ... then other serious part smaller team with better resources and tools and huger timelines using up the clickbaity revenue runway given ... that keep the reputaiton up with risker groundbreaking stuff .... maybe the teams could shift places once a while so the clickbaity group learns how to write a actual news .... and actual news writers learn how to sell their bloody news .... perfectly balanced as all thinks should be .... ? any comments
I'm fine with not having journalism.
Oh shit I'm THAT guy watching this on a free wifi
Fuck you!!! You're killing them! Lol...
Lol what was the password?
You think that's bad I am the guy that never pays to see a movie
+grkpektis BitTorrent?
*porn
After rewatching so much John Oliver, my inner monologue while reading textbooks is in his voice
When I wrote essays in high school, I had my inner voice sound like John Cleese, and I copied everything down.
That's actually a great idea. When i put it in his voice, i instantly hear if it's a good point or not. Thanks John
Mine is Stephen Fry
Propaganda with a British accent.
@@user-gw7bs9up3lnice bait
as a student in journalism whose been considering going to college for journalism.. oh no
Maybe start learning how to make online quizzes
Get a real degree. Going into debt for a dead industry will set you back 20 years.
@@taylorc2542 Nah journalism isn't a dead career per se, it's just struggling at the local level.
@@MrRooibos123 It's dead for 90% of new grads.
Please don't give up. We need good journalists now more than ever
2 things:
1. The real living gnome is Killer Keemstar
2. The "removing vowels" article was posted on April Fool's Day
But with what he said, he was basically Keemstar #2 with money
Jon Oliver is also biased and based as fuck, as much as any conservative, sadly people slant in beliefs and not make compromises out of hubris or pride or ego.
+Nick Reed Yeah, he's the real closed-minded, uncompromising, hubris-filled person here, and...not the individual who's making broad, extreme claims about a comedian they've never met, failing to take the time to spell the comedian's name properly, not saying anything about the actual video itself, and *liking their own comment.*
I think there was a quote involving a pot calling a kettle something, but I just can't quite put my finger on it...hmmm...
Boy gon' need some cream for that BUUURN!!!
Let's get roooight into the noosee
This is how I became a failed journalist. I wasn't skilled nor trained enough to handle the workload. Started off as strictly a sports writer. But in no time at all, I had to become my own photographer, website writer, proofreader, photo editor...all within 40 hours and NO OVERTIME. Soon after that, when two other reporters quit, I was saddled with covering everything: news, sports, obituaries, you name it...ALL WITH NO OVERTIME. Couldn't handle the work load and got canned. It sucks. I miss that line of work.
Any advice for an aspiring journalist? How did you try to deal with this?
@@jordankendall2705 Start with knowing exactly what you want to do: sports, newspaper reporter, travel, television anchor, etc. Once you have a career in mind, get an education on it and start now. During the process, work for your local high school yearbook, newspaper, college paper, freelance photography, and so on. Do your best to obtain both education and experience at the same time. Learn as many of the these skills: writing, photography, photo editing, videography, proofreading, web designing, social media writing, blogging, and reporting (journalism). Know your genre much as possible, such as automotive, etc. Take what you can get. Build up your portfolio and keep everything you worked on. Let's say you want to work with ESPN. You have to start with small jobs first, some of them may end up having you work for magazines such as Cat Fantasy, Good Housekeeping and so on before a bigtime gig with a sports enterprise opens up. Finally, the most important part: NEVER QUIT THE PROFESSION. Once you get out, it's hell getting back in. Hope this helps.
Same here. We were asked to do so much in such a little time. Site, newspaper, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, mail, photo's, video's et cetera. It's just too much sometimes. And most of the 'extra' work comes down to the 'younger' journalists. At the end it was no journalism, it was just rewriting.
I thought about becoming a journalist 20 years ago but even then there were no real jobs just gigs.
the pain is real when you're working some minimum wage job after journalism fucked you over.
Watching in 2021 and hearing the quote about the next years being extreme corruption hits soo close to home
My journalism career ended thanks to greed and incompetence from the higher ups. Now I’m using my writing skills for marketing, so I’m glad something came out of my journey. I know journalism is important, but it’s not for me anymore especially when it comes to working for those that wronged me.
Journalism to marketing. How much lower can you go?
As a Journalism student, the accuracy hurts my soul
HelloParkingMeter6 as someone was thinking if studying it.
I wish you the best of luck
HelloParkingMeter6 Herman Böök
Funding for journalism, the 'fourth estate of government' MUST be financed in the same way that we pay we pay for the first, second and third estates of government.
Before naysayers argue for the monetary funding stream independence of journalism as an inalienable attribute of unbiased reporting consider this:
1) Taxpayers fully fund judges individually (and the judicial branch collectively) while at the very same time we, the general public, hope/pray that those same judges will execute an unbiased application of the law regardless of who is coming before the court. Sometimes we get what we hope and pray for and sometimes we don't BUT we never choose to tell judges to fund their profession by selling advertising space on the front of their desks.
2) Taxpayers fully fund cops individually (and police departments collectively) while simultaneously hoping/praying for an unbiased enforcement of the law. Well, sometimes we get what we hope for and sometimes we don't but we never tell police departments to sell advertising space on the hoods of their vehicles like an Indianapolis 500 race car. Why? because then the police will become subtly biased to work on behalf of the name emblazoned on their car.
For the last century (more) of journalism , the price of discovering and reporting on News was funded largely by selling space for advertisements of all kinds between, around and within the news. This model led to news stories that focused on this dynamic "If it bleeds it leads."
Why? Well there are several obvious reasons but here is one that is relevant: The news agency is trying to pay for its existence - to pay its reporters, to pay for its overhead.
However, now, in this new internet economy of fractured information streams, the funding model has changed radically. While there will always be money to pay writers / content creators who cover sports, train wrecks and celebrities, the money to pay for investigative journalism (time consuming, costly) and hyper local political coverage (very small audience) is evaporating - Because these subjects are no longer bundled together in a newspaper that everyone reads and they are they do not necessarily generate reliable quantities of eyeballs.
We must recognize that the old monetary model of paying for democracy worthy news is dead and if we recognize this forgone conclusion then we must pay for it like we pay for police, judges, firefighters and roads.
This is a public necessity that cannot be left in hopes of a patchwork solution of citizen bloggers. Citizen bloggers are nevertheless important and helpful but they are as helpful as vigilantes and volunteer fire departments - sometimes they they show up heroically and save the day and sometimes they show up with pitchforks and hang someone or sometimes their day job means that on the day of your fire they are out of town.
Do they still teach that? Why not just start vloging or bloging. The more clicks you get the more credible you are.....as a journalist.
Caleb Poirier you've got my vote
When you watch the video then realized he just called out the millions of people who don't have HBO and just watch it here :/
#triggered
I can't have it legally anyways, I'm outside of the US ...
I really hate that about HBO....
If John Oliver wants me to watch his show on HBO then he can pay for it...that will be $123/month because that is what the only cable company near me charges for the package that contains HBO and I can't get HBO a la carte. Or he can sling his zingers to get every business in the world to pay their employees more so they can afford to purchase HBO and watch his show. Oh, neither is going to happen? Well then, free watching on UA-cam with free Wi-Fi - thank you, I will kindly partake while that $123/month goes to the food that hits my table...
I believe he was calling out people who watch it on borrowed/stolen internet. Putting segments on UA-cam is incentive for people to watch the show - if anything, it HELPS his show.
Tronc in a nutshell.
Step 1: Reading habits
Step 2: ?????
Step 3: Profit!!
that sounds depressingly familiar
Step 2 is selling your reading habits.
@@BenPyman it's a reference to South Park
Damn journalist gnomes
Oof John Oliver dosn't understand ML
It's essential for democracy. Independent authoritative new reporting should be subsidized.
76-year-old veteran requesting anyone to help veteran and to take a look into the corruption at the department of veterans affairs Manila, Philippines. The Board of Veterans Affairs, Washington DC., on January 08, 2021, GRANTED Veteran Service-Connection for Traumatic Brain Injury while veteran Active-duty 1965-1966; however, veteran being rated by VA as 100% totally & permanently disabled was reduced to a rating of (0) zero by VA Manila. VA Manila, now insists veteran start all over again with his TBI claims.
In short - corruption easily exposed due to decades of a paper-trail revealing Malfeasance, Misfeasance, Nonfeasance, Intentional Negligence (all on VA paper). A GREAT STORY ON THE CONTINUED CORRUPTION IN AMERICA!
Ah yes, the government will subsidize the very people who will investigate their corruption. This is probably already happening we just don't know about it!!
that moment when John Oliver calls you out on your shit
Daniel Naranjo I was shooketh
'Fun' fact: the dramatic music in the background is Mozart's 'Lachrymosa', which he wrote for his own funeral while he was actually dying. Poignant...
Happy to concede the point, Dmitriy. I just got that from the film about Mozart and Salieri. I haven't done in-depth research on this matter. So why did he write it again?
Answer to my own question: he wrote it shortly before his own death. It was commissioned for the wife of Count Franz Von Walsegg. According to Wikipedia: 'The Requiem Mass in D minor (K. 626) by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart was composed in Vienna in 1791 and left unfinished at the composer's death on December 5 the same year. A completion dated 1792 by Franz Xaver Süssmayr was delivered to Count Franz von Walsegg, who had anonymously commissioned the piece for a Requiem Mass to commemorate the February 14 anniversary of his wife's death'. I still find the circumstances poignant, though. Thanks for the correction.
Is that why they call it 'Lake Lachrymose' in A Series of Unfortunate Events', I wonder?
+Microtherion I wonder how seriously most newspapers take fact checking these days.
Fact-checking? Heck, most journalists can't even spell these days. (I mean, I understand time-limits and typos, but every newspaper I ever read these days seems to contain complete and total non-sentences. 'The President was today did speech but not until after beforehand' kinda thing). :)
This show is basically Black Mirror but real.
It shows us that WE are living in a Black Mirror episode
When he called us out lmao
That moment John Oliver speaks to you in your apartment...
u policy ijj
"Are you naked, sitting on a bean-bag, eating Cheetos?"
do you have a camera over here CholTaaim?? *waves trying to find the camera*
+CholTaaim I had a gray shirt, jizzed stain adidas shorts, black nike ankle socks & eating Chile Lemon Lays 😈😈😈
chai, vadapav and hostel wifi...
i should be studying torts and accounts...
Oddly. that sounds like a good movie.
If I saw a trailer for this on kickstarter, i'd totes fund it.
I'd love to see it tbh
😂😂
the irony
Jon Snow 67% of people are under the spell 33% seek the truth. That number i believe is accurate it comes from a study done by stanely milgrim....... check it out
I am thrilled to be informed by you and your team! Kudos!
I remember when the Denver Post went to only two papers a week, as I kid I asked my mother “is another paper going to replace them?” She shook her head and said no. I remember when we got the paper every day, and how I was so excited to read the funny’s and look at the headlines. Im glad I’m old enough to at least experience the tail end of the newspaper years, but sad that it’s gone.
I read the title my mind automatically filled in "is dead"
okay, after watching the video , I see its not dead....it's brain dead on life support
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+Ladygothii12 You're not wrong. The business model and leadership ability amongst editors needs to change.
Best comment on this video...
John Oliver, where the hell would we be without you.
Still here, doing the same everyday shit.
yeah, but without knowing why we do the same everyday shit :) is a difference right ?
Ignorance Land the Home of Bliss
#nerdyparrot
LastWeekTonight IS LOVE, LastWeekTonight IS LIFE. 4realzies like totes AMAZBALLS fantabulousishisly GORG like like like yAAAAA. This is all the news we need in the world. Only nerdzies read, coolzies use utube 4 kNewz. World needs more cool stuffz (e.g. Nutella xtra chocolate intense FLAVOUR! and Shetland Ponies wearing a unicorn on their head!!!). All journalists should become comedians like John or just read the whole newspaper to us so we dont have to read cuz only nerdMcLozeBallz read books. ONLY BOOK ANY1 should read is CAPTAIN UNDERPANTS! sticket edition obviously. YOLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I have HBO and still watch this on UA-cam....idk why...
the john oliver comment section is great
me too haha
Looking back from 2020 this is more of an accurate relocation than a parody
"it is going to be a great time for a corrupt politician"... boy was he right
Cough cough trump cough cough
can you give examples or are you just pulling that out of your ass?
lol. Those same people colluded with a corrupt politician to try and get her elected. Go read the DNC leaks and Podesta emails and you'll see how propagandists worked with the Democrats.
No one is more corrupt than Donald Trump. No one.
The Right is honestly just a bunch of brainwashed gothic teenagers with Trump as their overlord. They will take unto their death every command he issues and will listen to his bullshit even if it means killing another person.
So... Basically Buzzfeed?
Exactly Buzzfeed
Actually it's not Buzzfeed anymore, is Bzorch
James Vermont
It's *Bzrch*, actually.
I didn't like their articles, so hey let me get rid of all the vowels in their name.
Sentinel not buzzfeed more like Philip DeFranco
So Bzzfd
Jason Sudeikis is a fucking genius. His timing, his effortless acting -omg
I have been called out, and I respect it.
"Good journalism is like porn, everybody want, but nobody want to pay for it"
The epitome of truth
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+Griselda Govea Rot-24?
+Original Name nah plenty of people want it. but they just want it to drift out of the cloud for free.
+Original Name You don't get it. There is demand, people just don't know where to get it, because there is a lot of misinformation sources.
People don't know where the source of the truth is because there is to much of useless information out there, people have to spend time, which they don't have, filtering all the shit.
The problem isn't a lack of demand, the problem is all the unworthy and misinformation out there, people just don't have the energy to find the right source of information, if there is one that is.
>video comes out 5 minutes ago
>video is 20 minutes long
>already has 10 dislikes
(sigh)
well how else can you be first, by liking? good luck.
Well maybe I don't know if it's possible but people can watch it live before it being posted
When you can bust a myth but not a nut
That's fair, I forgot this is broadcasted on TV first.
I mean I doubt that it's the case, but I suppose it's _possible._
When the first 5 minutes bemoan an industry dying for its own faults, does not make the decision to dislike hard after that... It has already set a clear tone by then.
In gonna guess it's the usual suspects that say he's a "lib-tard" and dislike it on principle. Or they saw it when it aired a few hours ago and were not impressed.
my mother was a journalist and editor for 30 some years before she passed away, she is sobbing up above seeing what's happened to journalism since she left
A frightening combination: tabloids + digital first = a f*cking $hitshow.
Journalism in the 1960s (solving murders and giving first hand accounts of Vietnam)
Journalism now (top 10 episodes of F.R.I.E.N.D.S and why your boyfriend needs to love you more)
Don't forget about the Yellow Journalism of the past.
Marcus it's so sad
Some would even argue that we can have both 😰
Humanity 1960s ( behaving like humans instead of animals craving flashy pictures of meaningless garbage to help distract them from using theire brains for a single moment.)
That should cover it.
And why video games are causing the apocalypse.
This is horrifying.
Agreed. Btw PoPS is amazing can't wait for episode 10!
Ha! Thanks, Mystery.
whoa! youre here! hi!!
Honestly, it's sickening that journalists can't do their very necessary jobs as freely as we need them to.
well nobody cares enough to pay them to do that job.
supply>demand...oh god we're f*cked
So glad I can get WiFi from the coffee shop below my apartment so I can watch episodes of this show for free on UA-cam! 😂👍
You're still paying for it.IN RADIATION ... !!!
@@motanelustelistu how are even the most lighthearted comments laced with blatant trollism
Living in NYC be like:
Until he reminds us, I forget that this isn't a UA-cam show
To be fair it's the wifi at the coffee shop i work at, but yeah.
lol!
shiiit...HE GOT ME!
Terribly Sorry.
We all got roasted let's not kid ourselves
the roast hurt me
I once worked briefly as an online journalist (I am working as a video editor for a notable online news site at the moment), and the ethics of the job were horrible. Using a certain number of buzzwords was more important than the objectivity and truthfulness of what you've written.
In fact, I would say that most "news articles" (not columns) where personal opinions of the "journalist" written in a way to accommodate the highest number of buzzwords possible. All the "facts" used were mostly information gathered from the first google page when searching for that topic, and then skimmed over briefly and recycled just enough so that it can't be considered copyright infringement.
Oh, and quantity > quality was also a thing. The more articles you were able to write, the better. If they are of high quality, well, good for you. If not, it doesn't matter much, but god beware if you didn't deliver the number specified for that day/week.
Horrible.
At the moment I am working as a video editor, and it is the same story. I rehash articles from the news site I am working for and make buzzfeed type videos of them. I copy/paste some meaningful sentences from the article in question, and copy some .gifs, pictures or video parts I google into my program, make it all look pretty, add the logo of the site and it's trademark background music, and that's it. Here again goes quantity > quality.
The media that we use in making our videos has to be "labeled for reuse", but your supervisors will often tell you to just make sure to use stuff that "doesn't LOOK copyrighted" like artwork, pro-photoshoot pics and similar. We often get notices for copyright infringement, which we resolve by just issuing apologies, taking down the video in question and that the video-editor will face punishment. Then we laugh, and laugh, and note what media we shouldn't use again.
Oh, and by the way, as you may or may not have noticed, I have never received any training on writing, journalism, video-editing or anything related to my current job and industry. I also never had a job in this industry before, and my previous professional career was limited to mostly gastronomy and academia. My supervisors just check for hard grammar errors, and that's about it.
Do I feel awful about this? Yes. Do I try to do a better job than what is required? Sometimes, especially on political coverage, where the message delivered by my videos can be harshly different from the article they were made for. (I try to stay unopinioned as possible, and just deliver the facts without fancy or insulting adverbs attached to them.) Do I prioritize this over doing what is required to hold my job? No, I don't. I have a family and bills to pay for, and to save up for university, so I don't have to do such a job anymore.
And this is the harsh truth. Serious jobs that should bear a lot of obligation and sense of duty with them, are now jobs that people do to get over the rounds or finance their university or other things. Basically, being a journalist in the contemporary world has as much obligation as being a kid lawnmower boy for your neighbors. You may sometimes ruin somebodies prized petunias... But you'll just get a little slap on your hands, and that's it.
Only that now the petunias are somebodies worldview, and you don't ruin a garden, but make Trump president.... and get even less than a slap on your hands for it. Yay.
Short follow up:
I think that the "death of professionalism" in most industries is caused by the fact that, in most countries (luckily not all), it is increasingly difficult to survive working in a lot of industries, and therefore people are turning to the few industries that generate a good income, but that they are just not passionate about.
The job market for IT has risen exponentially, while the job market for some manual labors has either decreased, or the salaries just don't keep up with inflation and the current costs of living. And not everyone can be passionate about IT (or media generation, or STEM or whatever).
We've created a labor market where you are allowed to be passionate about just a relatively narrow range of topics; or be incredibly lucky; or make peace with the fact that no matter how good of a job you do, you will not make as much money as somebody else on the same position, but in a different field.
But most people don't want to rely on luck, and most people want to live financially secure and "well-off", therefore they are doing whichever decent paying job they can find, without feeling passionate about it, which results in a reduction of quality of their work.
Of course, some huge companies can afford to just fire those workers and get new ones, but a lot of companies in several industries either don't care about mediocre content or it just doesn't pay off to fire an already "trained" worker.
Most companies today, and most people too, are led by the maxim: "Good enough, is good enough", where good enough means: "Just good enough for the ship not to sink... a lot."
This is mostly due to the increased interest of people in different topics due to the hard exposure of different topics on people via modern media (internet and a wide arrange of readily available shows), and a perceived lack of time to follow one's passions and wants, due to an unperceived huge amount of time spent on social media.
In other words, we have created a generation were a lot of people would love to be many different things, and are hugely passionate about those things, yet they spend most of their day unconsciously on social media instead of honing their skills, while having a job market that ideals for only a very narrow (and vastly specialized) range of interests.
... and don't get me started on the fact how a lot of industries are forced to operate like "businesses" today. I must say that I am mostly, but not exclusively, right wing on the topic of economy, but some things should never be forced to operate like businesses, and those are: schools, healthcare and hospitals, life-saving pharma (vaccines, cancer-drugs and other things in that league), public safety and security (police and army), scientific research, and journalism.
Forcing these things to operate like businesses kills all incentive for people in those fields to operate "professionally". Best example: scientists who try to publish as many papers as possible, to stay "competitive" in this job market. That shouldn't be their worry! This will always create bias in their research, which does more harm than good, and it is one of the reasons why faith in science has declined in recent years. (among other important factors, mind you!)
All in all... It's not the best time for anybody who believes in anything else but money. For everybody who believes only in money, it's one of the best times to be alive.
#investifarted #buzzwords #dicks #top10nudecelebrities #johnoliveringstrings
Amar Salih Šehić
So incredibly well said! Bravo, mate!
Your comments deserve a hell of a lot more views and likes.
I wanna reply just so I can follow these comments. I agree they are well written.
I should not have known who Kim K is until she talked to T. Why tf do i know who txrnenix... whatever? At least one article or more comes up in my feed. I could not possibly less. Why do i get articles about which starlet is dating/dumping/trashing/feuding? I rarely watch a cat video.
I'm being inundated with trivial, petty, meaningless - i won't call it fluff - that's my favorite socks.
Still slogging through is worth it. There are many brilliant journalists and analysts...for now. I miss the paper and my morning coffee. Then the crossword on the train to work!
I have education on Journalism and I.was a.reporter. and a producer for some time. I lived it, my the industry swolled me. I lost my job and couldn't find another decent position. I miss being a reporter, a lot!
I love that Rose got to work with her husband in the skit, Bobby cannavale!😂
Me, who is watching this on youtube, using the wifi from the coffee shop under me: 👁👄👁
wow, he certainly don't seem to have a problem getting good actors on his spoofs
I noticed the actor from The Americans who played William, the KGB agent who smuggled samples from the biological weapons company he worked at.
Not to mention a dude from Boardwalk Empire.
I was waiting for a plug from Noah's Arcade.
I personally counted 6 (edit 7) recognizable faces.
Isn't the old guy Bill Murray's dad?
15:00 I FEEL SO CALLED OUT at least I'm using my own wifi lol. And we do pay for the newspaper XD
I was a bit shock on that part... hes absolutely right....
Natalie Long v
Eh I have HBO but it is for GoT
I think I’m the worst. Watching on UA-cam, on an iPhone I got for free, on WiFi I don’t pay for... I should be ashamed, but I’m probably too spoiled...
I just forget to watch it I have cable 😂😂
I very much am watching this segment for free on UA-cam, using the free Wi-Fi from the Starbucks coffee shop half a block from my apartment. Way to call it out, John Oliver.
I miss the good old days when the internet was just for downloading porn and newspapers had copy editors.
Now people can learn any subject they want which is great.
@@standowner6979 They can also download porn of any subject they want.
It's almost disturbing how many people here have no clue about the real topic of this video and just assume it's about whatever perceived corruption is present in modern journalism.
Local journalism has been in dire straits for over a decade now, and there's just no way to crawl out of it without pissing off a LOT of people. There's a reason print journalism isn't dead yet: free online journalism is simply not sustainably profitable. Either they all switch to the online subscription model (if they aren't there yet) and alienate people who want free news, they start demanding more money from their ad sponsors (which will probably lead to accelerating the development of anti-adblock technology), or they hope they get a billionaire to support them and immediately gain a reputation, deserved or not, of being incapable of objectivity when it comes to that billionaire's interests.
Gosh, it's weird how I feel like I have such a keener understanding of Asian Pacific (ALL HAIL WARREN BUFFETT) trade relations since this I started subscribing to this new paper!
Truth. My local paper just laid off most of its workers and now is outsourcing so papers have to be manufactured out of town. It's apparently a fraction of the cost and a fraction of the staff. All about profit. I mean, they weren't even in a tough spot financially but they want to be 'competitive'. Only 5 days a week delivery instead of 7...and the online articles are like 3 sentences long. It's messed up and it's why I read several different news sources to try to get a little more information than just three measly sentences...
+mike vibes Well, that's sort of the issue though, is that they have to go to "Sell-fast" topics in order to sustain themselves, and can't even afford to have any sort of journalistic integrity. If all newspaper publications are forced into the mindset of "All drama, all fast sellers!" then local news publication as we know it will devolve into something similar to the likes of TMZ or those tabloid magazines you pass by in the Wal-mart checkout aisles. And the idea of that is just gross to me.
I don't want to open up my local newspaper and the front page header is "KIM KARDASHIAN CAMELTOE, SIGN OF THE END TIMES?!!"
+Rabano Doom +
Billionaires owning media companies and the subsequent subjective/objective debates that ensue is nothing new, though. We've been through entire eras filled with rich newspaper owners seeing who can get the most "clicks" (see: muckraking, yellow journalism, Joseph Pulitzer, William Randolph Hearst, etc.)...
I want John Oliver to know that the day after seeing this show I subscribed to the NY Times online. I am one of those people you spoke to directly at the end of the show, watching on You Tube, reading lots of free news online. You made a good point. Quality journalism needs to be supported. I want you to know you had a real impact at least on one person.
Ok but unironically I would watch a movie about an underdog journalist struggling to work on a major local story while also battling the apathy of his digitally-fixated news company.
It HAS been one of the best times to be a corrupt politician. That guy who created the wire was exactly right
John Oliver is simply fantastic, We need a comedian like John Oliver in India.
***** Hey ignorant, racist idiot
hahhahahahahha....Mate...!
+Clyde Drexler, wow, you have a very creative mind, i mean,there is no cliche in your words what so ever. Look at the word formation, you can be a very good poet since you don't have a job right now.(By the way, 'cliche' is a very tricky word for people like you to understand, use a dictionary if you can afford one. And the word 'tricky' is also an English word that can be VERY TRICKY for you to understand.)
Business Excavator Same to you
Meitei Luwang I THINK YOU HAVE MISTAKEN.. I WAS TALKING TO SOMEONE ELSE:)
Thank you for reporting on this topic. What the scary stupidness and dumbing down Kardashian culture is doing to our journalism in the USA is doing to us!
If you know how I feel, why would you say that? Like you put me in such an uncomfortable situation, like you know I'm not happy, you know I'm trying to see if it'll work out here and I know that it's not.
+Anal Queen excuse me?
Anal Queen just wants some attention, that's all. lol
Not just the US, it's a world wide problem.
Celebrities aren't a CAUSE. They're more of a SYMPTOM. Journalism is made by powerful companies who are owned by people and groups who serve political interests. Reporting on celebrities and superfluous subjects keep the population alienated and with the illusion they're informed.
Did John Oliver predicted Twitter's change of name 6 y in advance?
I'm from Germany, I can only watch it on UA-cam 😁
But do you subscribe to “Der Spiegel” or “Focus” ?
Same (from Iran)
IDK if it's available on any platform other than utub.
But same, from India .
Lol I'm feeling kinda guilty for viewing it on UA-cam on a free wifi
im using ad-block
+Daniel RRNC I'm using youtube red
It's okay he is a comedian not a journalist. Important to clarify
+Daniel RRNC i understand the hardwork a creator puts in to create good stuff... So never use add blocker ( except when I'm surfing a porn site 😜😂)
I don't feel guilty watching it on UA-cam, since I use a wifi that's not free.
Journalism should be publicly funded.
You can't blame working people for being poor, when they have no control over their wages.
So what you're saying is the government should be paying for the journalists? What could possibly go wrong.
Lol, yea, that's not a good idea
England and the British Broadcasting Corporation.
+Jared Carbo NPR and PBS are a great idea.
..and it gets controlled by the government
I have been missing your unique brand of journalism. You filled an important role in filling in the blanks and summarizing relevant topics with your special brand of humor.
7:48 so it’s actually complicated. I am an aid that worked under
a teacher who would do this for five minutes every day where we stood outside and let the kids run the room basically.
It gave us a five minute prep window, and it allowed students to actually resolve conflict without anyone getting in trouble.
One of the problems is that users pay significantly for access to the internet. Traditional newspapers were a direct access to the user. The grocery store didn't charge buyers for access to buy a newspaper. The paper dispenser sat independently and asked for money directly. The other problem is that there's less disposable income to go around and newspapers are one of those things that are falling because of it.
I think you bring up a really good point. I pay $70.00 a month for internet, and another $30.00 for a paper prob wouldn't be worth it. Haven't heard this argument before, but I think you're right.
yes! I think most ISP's are semi-monopolies extracting insane profits for providing a dumb pipe.... meanwhile the folks who make the content get none of that revenue. I admit... i don't want to pay more... but I'd much rather my 70$ was distributed a bit more reasonably... 10$ to HBO, 10$ to college humour, etc... and maybe only 30$ or so (which is how much internet used to cost) to the ISP.
shortname4me
Sadly, that is the future for Cable. They won't admit it now. But cord cutters are growing in number. Even elderly people are talking how easy and cheap it is to get rid of cable and just pay for services like netflix/hulu/amazon and internet. One old lady told me: "If I have to pay for reruns, I'd rather just pay for Netflix and save some money."
This is the future of Cable indeed. Hell, some TV channels are now using apps to try and get ahead of the curve. They usually let you see the last few episodes of the current season of a show but if you want the whole thing then you would need to pay for the application. This probably is also in response to Netflix, Hulu, and even Amazon Prime Videos and iTunes Store, but they still need something else to save them.
How is there less disposable income to go around? There is going to be a Fast and Furious 8. Starbucks is expanding not contracting. Everyone is buying the new I Phone.
The choice is being made by average people to be uninformed. To accept garbage for information. Rome is burning and they are tweeting about something inane while sipping on a Chai Latte. We have Donald freaking Trump as a presidential nominee. That is how far we have gone down the rathole of dementia. You don't get Trump as a presidential nominee unless you have an uninformed society which takes nothing seriously including the presidency.
John you didn't get the joke, the game lets you remove the vowels. You get to DISEMVOWEL it.
dietotaku
English majors rule!
#disemvowel #investifarted
I think he also failed to notice the "April 1st" posting.
@@RWAsur The article about the "disemvoweling" concept was first published online by Fortune on March 24, 2016. A print version appeared later in the April 1 issue of the magazine.
dietotaku omg,
John Oliver, you are indeed the dimpled darling of comedy.💓💓💓
Hey man the coffee shop owner said it was chill during these hard times
I'll thumb up this and go back to watching UA-cam vids with adblock.
I feel so morally superior.
Feck off, most popular UA-cam videos are made by unemployed gamers in their parents basement. Using adblock on 90% of UA-cam isn't hurting journalism.
infantryhawk I use it for 100% of everything and I mostly watch pet videos. I have no print subscription at my home and I watch John Oliver for a laugh nothing more.
So in other words, you, like every youtube user with adblock, are really doing nothing wrong.
infantryhawk None of us are, times change and journalists need to evolve and adapt. JO is making something out of nothing wit this "back in my day" piece.
***** So if that's the case, what is them missing your singular couple penny ad click really doing? They already make 6 digits a year. Who cares about you blocking one ad?
I understand that people have found success, but honestly. Pewdepie and the like are still unemployed loser in my book. They make a lot, but dude. You play video games online for a living.
"You who is watching this on UA-cam"
Well, tell HBO to come to my country and then let's talk. Also, at least I'm watching the real upload so you get ad revenue and not some other upload.
With public wifi. You have selective listening.
***** He means both things are for free. I'm being selective since only one is relevant. One affects them more than the other, though, so I would say they care more about that.
***** He was making a joke at the people who pay for nothing and want everything for free.
***** I'm aware, but it's pretty rich for an HBO show to say that, when they notoriously make it near impossible to consume their content without having a HBO cable package. Only recently have they made HBO Go more available.
It'd make more sense if he said, "watching this on UA-cam but not on our official channel", but it doesn't have the same ring to it.
Let’s just take a moment to appreciate that lacrimosa from mozarts requiem was playing in the background of the add at the end. It had me geeking out.
Creating each episode as an essay is smart. No bouncing around topics.
he failed to talk about Peter Parker's work at the Daily Bugle
Anyone ever notice the homoerotic undertones of Spiderman? Rearrange the "g" and "l" and all of the sudden its P. P. from the Daily Bulge
The Daily Bugle is basically Infowars Now
Did he ever cover a single story not about Spiderman.
A Barracuda cool...?
Justice for peter Parker
"It's going to be a great time to be a corrupt politician." I had no idea how much of our current problems had been predicted.
2 years into the future...MUCH worse than predicted in your comment :/
We were warned. By fiction writers, journalists, scientists, etc. What I didnt see was clear steps to avoid all this.
Exhibit A: George Santos, who quite possibly wouldn't have been elected if the media had been doing its job. Now they're scrambling to try and make up for it....too little, too late.
I am Personally willing to fight for You, John Oliver.
Doesn't matter what I have done so far, I can do more.
How do you keep coming up with these amazing clips looking like real freaking movies? Genius.
Last time I came this early Harambe was still alive and Bernie Sanders was a candidate for President...
+Connor Dunn #dicksoutforHarambe
#DicksOutForHarambe
TOO SOON
Bernie Sanders is still a candidate in our hearts.
#DicksOutForSanders
#INVESTIFARTED
Commisar Relj-Billius I
Relj Warrior 😭😭😭😭
Its a easy plan I think .... have two branches ... one that puts fluffy ass clickbaity stuff that keeps the revenue up ... then other serious part smaller team with better resources and tools and huger timelines using up the clickbaity revenue runway given ... that keep the reputaiton up with risker groundbreaking stuff .... maybe the teams could shift places once a while so the clickbaity group learns how to write a actual news .... and actual news writers learn how to sell their bloody news .... perfectly balanced as all thinks should be .... ? any comments
the longer we get something for free the more we feel entitled to it!!
Air, water
So alarming, so true!
John Oliver is the highlight of my Sunday
actually Monday, but wait you are probably in the West coast, so yeah Sunday for you.
John, you made a mistake. That man isn't a living garden gnome, Keemstar is.
Didn't expect to see this here, but yeah true keemstar is a fucking gnome, Hisss
I think yall meant rat
I forgot Keemstar was a gnome. I was just reminded that Keemstar is a gnome. Keemstar is a gnome.
Biotear leeeeeeeeeeet's get rooooiiiiiiight into the content that nobody cares about anymore, hence why I keep "quitting" when pewdiepie, zoie burgher or scarce have nothing going on. Only to come back when Idubbbz releases a content cop on someone I hate and parody leafyishere just to get people talking.
Biotear Forgive me for my ignorance, but who's Keemstar? Cause he sounds like a "bad hombre".
the lacrimosa music at the background of the movie trailer is amazing
9:22 that man really just stepped away from the podium to say "fuck you" under his breath only to realize that the mic was on his shirt
8:14 keemstar's grandfather.
lol
Walked in the woods. Found a newspaper found a-found a newspaper
Fuck off.
Adrian Diaz Fuck off. Douche.
+David Wood someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning
Removing all the vowels from an article is just translating it into Czech
Amazing comment 😂
you mean czch?
Vito C 😭😭😭😭😭
Catherine Gold you mean vt c
Strč prst skrz krk is a real sentence in Czech and we all should be unsettled by that.
A big part of the problem is that print media is (unfortunately) in a downward spiral. I used to subscribe to two dailies, years ago. Then they cut staff, then they started using more wire services rather than original reporting. Then they grabbed syndicated columns.
I have no problem paying for quality content, but I don't want to pay to read a wire service that's been reprinted in my local or national paper; I just can't justify the expense.
Likewise, papers don't seem willing to take the leap and bring their staff levels back up to where consistent quality journalism can happen.
It’s like tv and web news are looking over the shoulder of paper/ print news and being like “are you going to share your homework or not”
As someone who wants to be a journalist, this really scared me.
Better start working on that twitter following then.
Well your surname doesn't help you either ;)
+Shrey Sood Lol...
As someone who is in college studying journalism and getting buried under debts, this is a nightmare.
Change come from within, don't be discouraged, you can make it better :)
If "journalism" wasn't so bad these days (including newspaper) then maybe people would care a little more!
And that's the double-edged sword. People stopped caring and so the journalism got bad, thus making people care even less and forcing clickbait articles online and poor articles in the newspapers themselves.
Think you mean something along the lines of a "Vicious Cycle", but you have a good point. It's getting to the point where I'm actively avoiding anything that seems to be bait, even if it actually contains useful information in the end.
Not getting the catch 22 I guess...
I'm not trying to bash you, but that really sounds like wishful thinking. The fact is, and many of us can all attest to this, there always has been and always will be more people who generally don't care , than people who generally do care.
An unfortunate side effect of our system is that it seeks to generate the most amount of revenue possible which means it is more likely to cater to a mass audience that is usually ready to sacrifice quality for affordability.
you mean believing breaking news from the first uncredited tweet?
That could literally be a movie tho. lol. Like a dramatic Idiocracy. I'm already in love with this nonexistent film lol.
15:03 He’s caught us boys, run for cover!
Well I am watching it on youtube, but I'm using my $20,000 a year university's wifi, so...
So, you're paying for internet access - virtually none of the money goes to HBO. When you read news online, you may be paying your ISP, but the news source gets nothing unless you click an ad or watch a video ad. As Oliver pointed out, online ad revenue is tiny compared to print ad revenue. So, much less investigative journalism happens than in the past.
... much less investiFARTive journalism happens...
#investifarted #FTFY
David Piepgrass No shit Sherlock, I watched the video just like you did. I was referring to the fact that his joke was made at people stealing not only news but wifi, so they were getting the whole package for free. And really, if it bothered them that much, they could just not put clips online; no one is forcing them to.
I think it was a joke. He's really into that. Jokes.
Gregor Hakkenberg Yeah, I was just trynna make a joke too :/ But some people these days...
The moment he said "the less willing we are to pay for it" I knew he was going to say he was talking to me xD
That's what newspaper companies get for not paying their paper delivery worker a living wage
Jason Sudeikis is very good at bland evil. Suspiciously good.
He did play the devil on SNL..
He probably had an office job with a boss. He reads "evil boss indifferent to your existence" to me.
No John Oliver, I do not feel ashamed to be watching you on youtube.
MrFantocan , HE ALSO HAS A FREE , PODCAST....!!!! . 👍❤️...
@@belkys120 god that grammar gave me aids... do you actually know how to use a comma?
@@atlasbailly5439 Bro, do you even grammar?
I dont either. This is my own wifi and my own cafe
@The Winter Soldier 👏EXACTLY I HATE ASSHOLES THAT CALL THAT BULLSHIT OUT LAME ASS GRAMMAR POLICE😒🙄👊👊👊👋
I'd like to think we're not fucked. I have a positive attitude.
I'd like to live in reality. But I sexually identify as an attack helicopter.
***** o_o we've got a special snow flake everyone. We don't live Stalinist russia, the media is free. Unless you watch CNN.
***** How, where's the proof. Only ones corrupt are CNN and MSNBC.
You may have positive attitude, but do you have a subscription to any print papers? ;-)
My only print subscription is one I got for free, and I don't read any of it, I only read news online.
The business model that I DO participate in is donating to NPR. If I'm going to pay for news I want it to come with minimal ads.
Omg, the use of Lacrimosa at the end of the “trailer” was just what i wanted tonight.
Totally got me! I live above a pizza shop!! 😂😂😂