Bro, your frustration is valid and well-spoken because you verbalized what I feel A LOT of fans felt about this thing! Honestly, I was going into this with low expectations when the documentary was announced because I learned Spike Lee wasn't directing like he did for Off The Wall & Bad... Remember Lifetime did a 4-part documentary on Janet Jackson last year. Sure, that was about her entire life/career rather than one album. However, THAT is how they should've done Thriller 40! Kind of like The New Edition Story, this should've been spread out over MULTIPLE episodes. Why not do 4 to kinda align with it being the 40th anniversary?! Episode 1: The gap between Off The Wall & Thriller covering MJ's desire to make the biggest album ever since Off The Wall didn't win the awards or have the cultural impact that he wanted it to have. Go over the production, writing and collaborations for EVERY TRACK ON THE ALBUM! No need to even spend much if any time on MJ's beginnings, Motown or The Jacksons era because the Off The Wall documentary did an excellent job covering all of that! Remember Bad 25 didn't spend too much time on that stuff at all. We got a BRIEF glimpse at how big Thriller was, how MJ planned to follow up that album and we jumped right into Bad. Episode 2: The short films, Motown 25, Grammy & AMA sweeps and the Victory Tour/Pepsi stuff Episode 3: The Thriller Era in general going over just the phenomenon that the album had during the 80s from the album sales, MJ merch, etc. Additional awards that the album received and records that it broke! This entire episode could just cover how massive the album was on a global scale! Episode 4: The cultural impact of Thriller over the past 4 decades! Now, THIS is the episode where you could feature a number of musical artists who were inspired by MJ! From Chris Brown (his awesome Thriller performance at one award show and let's not forget his MJ tribute at the 2010 BET Awards) to Usher (yeah, Mr. Let It Burn could make a brief cameo in this episode too), The Weeknd and so many more! All of the social media info that they dropped in the documentary like TikTok numbers, etc. would fit into this episode as well. There have been documentaries on albums that PALE in comparison to the success and impact of Thriller, but they were A LOT longer than 90 minutes! Bad 25 was over 2 hours and covered EVERYTHING that you needed to know! Heck, even MJ fanatics could walk out of that documentary having learned something new! The Off The Wall documentary was only about 90 minutes, but they did SO MUCH with that time! It covered MJ's literal journey from 'Motown to OTW!' Like Bad 25, it went over EVERY SINGLE TRACK IN ORDER! Even the lesser known or less popular tracks got their time to shine! Thriller 40 just glossed over or didn't even mention Baby Be Mine & The Lady In My Life! Also, this should've come out alongside the Thriller 40 album/vinyl releases last year during the ACTUAL 40th anniversary! If I remember correctly, Bad 25 documentary aired on ABC around or during the same time when the Bad 25 album was released. I know that the only way to purchase the DVD of the documentary was through the MJ website. Journey From Motown to Off The Wall was released in a very special way. You could purchase the Off The Wall CD and it came with a DVD with the documentary! I almost died laughing when you mentioned Good Burger 2 because I said the SAME THING to a friend because I did the $3.99 deal for the streaming service and figured I'd get a 2-for-1 deal by getting to watch GB 2 & Thriller 40 😂 As much as I can't wait for your future New Edition content, I'm REALLY eager for the MJ content you'll eventually do on your channel!
That’s actually a great idea, if they did something like what The Last Dance Netflix series was for Michael Jordan. But that’s beyond their comprehension and even if it wasn’t, they are too lazy to put the effort in to really bring that project into fruition. And it isn’t like they don’t have the footage because they do. They filmed the entire 1998 season of the bulls, and then revolved the interviews on top of the unreleased footage and it was super successful. Needless to say about how successful a Michael Jackson Netflix limited docuseries would be. And yeah I’m excited to start doing Michael Jackson albums once I’m finished with New Edition. I appreciate your thoughts 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
I think as MJ fans, we were underwhelmed because we’ve already done years of research on Michael. This was more for the people that don’t know these facts about this album. There’s really nothing new that they told us that isn’t already in the internet. I do, however, like the fact that the rest of the public is enjoying this. This documentary is #1 on paramount + and his streaming numbers have shot up even further
It seems like Michael Jackson’s legacy and likeness is just a commodity that they use to make profit. They aren’t concerned with building upon it; just doing the bare minimum so we can’t say they’re doing nothing.
@@misterDjayMDJ I agree with this. Hopefully, in the biopic, they give us something new that we didn’t know about him. I wasn’t too excited for the documentary but I’m very hyped about the biopic, especially after seeing that clip of Jaafar
They know all the fans are waiting for to show it. Its all for money and the rating they know if mj show on tv the rating is high. Now the fans now are mobilising waiting to watch mj the BIOPICon a big screen. We hope that the estate will do the project a DOC. and movie concert THE BAD TOUR. THE REHEARSAL PPL BEHIND CAMERA TO SHOW ALL COUNTRY WHERE HE DID THIS AND ALL THE AUDIENCE FROM THE CONCERT AND LAST THE FULL CONCERT IN WEMBLY OR JAPAN.
Thank you for telling the truth about this documentary. Michael Jackson’s story needs to be told the right way on any subject regarding his music, creativity, performances, ideas etc. This should be the same for any artist that’s beloved by the public whether it’s Prince, James Brown, Stevie Wonder, Luther Vandross etc. They have to do it right every single time!
Here's what I feel they left out: (1) THRILLER got the record business out of a three-year slump (1979-1982); (2) It also buried that DISCO SUCKS movement once and for all; and 3) The VHS sales of MAKING MICHAEL JACKSON'S THRILLER significantly increased VCR sales.
MAN!!!! You are hilarious, I do not have a Showtime subscription so I have not seen the documentary (or mockumentary like you said) but I will take your word for it and skip out on it. Good job on this video young brother keep it up. And I can’t wait for the Ralph Tresvant album video!
This doc was all over the place, the sequencing was horrible, and I wish more was covered, plus the songs should’ve been broken down more. The rare footage was the only highlight, but I NEED A CONCERT FILM! Also Vincent Price wasn’t MENTIONED!
I agree with you bro, I was a bit disappointed especially considering that I’ve seen both of the Spike Lee documentaries many times over and to me they are templates for what great music retrospectives should be. I honestly don’t know which of those two I love the most but if I had to choose I’d say “Journey From Motown To Off The Wall”, but “Bad 25” is in the closest of 2nd place. I set the bar LOW for any new Michael Jackson content so I wasn’t too upset with it. If it’s any consolation, my 5 year old nephew walked in the room and caught the last 1/3 of the doc and when it was over he wanted to watch more Michael Jackson videos. The ENTIRE “Thriller 40” project has been lackluster. It’s so much more satisfying being a Prince fan right now; that “Diamonds and Pearls” super deluxe reissue with all the unreleased material and concert/rehearsal footage and new interviews with Prince’s collaborators from that time was EXCELLENT! And they do this sorta thing every 2 years.
The fans should create a documentary, so many fans have the talent and the skills to create something spectacular in honor of Michael Jackson, you make some really good points, your very articulate with your delivery in how you explain your thoughts, you have some really good idea's, you should be in the management department, for the creating of something for Michael or for the making of something for Michael, you really should be there at the top, I think you would have a lot of support for things like that, you have the capacity to do things along those lines, I'd definitely vote for you to be a manager of some sort, you are genuine and real about things, and I think you have the ability to create something high quality and high class, something that just goes above and beyond, way over the bar 🌸
Thank you, I appreciate you saying all that. I'm actually going to be doing album retrospectives on Michael albums real soon. I've already been doing them on New Edition since last year and I've gotten great feedback from them over time. If you're into New Edition, Bobby Brown etc, you should definitely give those videos a watch so you can get an idea of what you can expect for the retrospective on Off The Wall.
It's okay, I share my honest opinions on things when certain things get my attention, and if I feel the need to say something, then I will, often I will make a comment to people who I think are authentic, genuine, sincere and real, I've watched a few of your videos and I think you are an intelligent person, what you said in your comment in response to my comment, that's great, to hear that, with what your working on, you definitely sound like you know what your talking about, and I really hope your projects go really well, the passion for Michael is evident, you just have something that is there, you have that creativeness about you, and what you say makes a lot of sense, I'm not familiar with New Edition, I don't think, and I don't know much about Bobby Brown's work, I know that he was married to Whitney and that's about it really, but I respect a lot of your opinions in relation to Michael Jackson, so your recommendations to watch those videos, is intriguing, but what you produce for Michael or what you end up making in the name/honor of Michael, that is something to really look forward to, I literally have more faith in the fans to do something so incredible for Michael, and with keeping his legacy alive 🌸
Great Video. Being in Nigeria, i got to watch the documentary late....the honest truth is that i hear you, but ......the sad thing is MJ is no longer with us, and the Estate....are doing what they think the fans want.....which isnt this...compared to other estates....they are doing something...sadly the quality could be better. Lets pray for the MJ movie...
oh man i totally feel you bro😭. clearly they missed key points in each song. they barely touched the unreleased / demos in depth as well. especially the clear proof that they have much more in the vault that is worth showing to us
This Documentary was just an utterly uncohesive mess! My issue is that the structure isn’t even on par with Spike Lee’s Off The Wall documentary imma just say this to keep it short…Bad 25 = Structure,Journey from Motown to Off The Wall = Information, and Thriller 40 = Rare Footage👑💯(Now i will say Mary J Blige was apart of the cast for MJ’s “Number Ones” Documentary from (2003) handpicked by MJ so she deserved her spot tbh and I agree that they have all of MJ’s concerts on film theater quality from the original source in MJ’s Archival Vault just sitting in there to rot smh it’s just underwhelming at this point. But what i will say is this documentary made me gain even more respect that I already had for MJ just knowing all the obstacles that was put in the way of his legendary Thriller Era run.)
i think they released the doc dec 2 cuz the Thriller video was released 40 yrs ago! LOVE your Michael Jackson commentaries!! can't wait until u do Michael's albums! there's a podcast called STORIES IN THE ROOM by Anthony Marinelli who worked on Thriller w Michael. check it out .. very detailed info!!😁💗💗
Not to mention, Spike Lee has worked with MJ for the TDCAU video in Brazil and hosts “Brooklyn Loves MJ” in NY. With QJ, he put out that interview and said MJ stole “Billie Jean” so that could be why…
Thank you so much Mr. Dimtri, much love and appreciation for what you do, did a great job as usual. I haven't seen the documentary yet but I plan to watch it with a friend tomorrow and see the flaws. Once again, great content. Please take care and stay safe ❤.
Full documentaries in the Beatles "Anthology"-style would be the only way to go, with interviews with all the people who were around when the albums/concerts/tours were created, not just opinions from people that weren't even born at the time.
It's going to be the same songs original and unreleased that is it so the documentary it just the story of how he met Quincy Jones and how he did thriller so it just stupid noting new
I completely agree with EVERYTHING you said. It was fun too watching you rant about it. I do feel that the estate only has one objective which is not satisfying fans, but creating new fans with a minimum amount of new footage. Making sure the legend continuous. So they can do the same trick 10 years from now with again a few new clips so those new fans can walk out Thriller 50 feeling disappointed like we all are today. I expect the same to happen with his biopic. Hope I’m wrong.
To be honest I was okay with it, it wasn't perfect. It made me gain more respect for Michael Jackson as an innovator and debunked the next King Of Pop claims.
Appreciate you sharing your thoughts man, only [ignorant] Michael Jackson haters are going around claiming that these new, horrible, Bobby Boogaloo artists can be the next King Of Pop. An artist surpassing Michael Jackson will never happen with or without a documentary.
@@misterDjayMDJ No problem! Even now white celebrities public figures are calling Taylor Swift the biggest Pop star of all time, and saying her era is bigger than Thriller and Beatlemania.
You won’t see the Michael brand being promoted properly with all the endless possibilities of new projects being released until Sony get what they want; ownership of his personal catalogue.
Agreed. First, i recall an interview with Toure, where nelson george saying he never cared for Thriller album. Second, hes best friends with chris rock and BOTH are die hard Prince fans. So thats why this doc seemed bias and half assed
People like Rod temperton . Vincent price. Footage and photos was not included in thriller 40 documentary when I seen there’s photos of mj with Vincent price
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾 Totally agree with U. The celebs added absolutely nothing. The most interesting part was the dude with all the keyboards & synthesisers.
I feel exactly the same way, been fan since 1982 and documentary was all over the place. Too much talking and the footage was flashes. Documentary should been focused on people who was involved in the project. If they wanted Usher, will i am, BTS should be all at the end. Were is the Billie jean behind the scenes footage ? Were is talk about his image with photoshoot footage ? Should of been at least 10 minute non stop footage at once ? Why isnt Billie Jean not in 4k yet ? Why isn't making of Thriller update version not done yet ?
I was disappointed in this doc. As an MJ fan who has done tons of research there was absolutely nothing in the doc I’ve never seen or heard before. All of the original video of mj during that time is on UA-cam already.
Agree with everything bro! Actually went to the test screening in London last year and although it was good to be amongst so many people that appreciated MJs art and have the opportunity to see some new footage, I was extremely underwhelmed. Why they didnt get Spike Lee to do it I dont know coz BAD 25 was lightyears ahead of this in terms of its content. Remember watching that for the first time and seeing the behind the scenes footage of the BAD short film thinking "YES! FINALLY!" The estate hasnt really done anything worth while since that imho. Thing is.. they actually cleaned this documentary up quite alot.. you would've been even more disappointed with some of the quality of footage they spliced in, it looked sloppy! Glad they did something and yeah I'd probably watch it again coz its MJ, but they definitely dropped the ball
The estate did alow budget for thriller. Why the estate doing this to mj.the greatest artist of all time? The fans must speak out no one was greater than him the nw artist of today. We are all hungry to mj music. Its beeb aling time they release an album. Poor mj we did really missed you. RIP THE KING.
Literally not enough of Michael in it for me. And just peoples opinions on thriller as an album. I am so over being underwhelmed with these projects they are dropping. It makes me worry for the biopic.
I thought I was the only one that thought it could’ve been better. I didn’t think it was as bad as he’s describing. But I gave it a C. Someone as big as Michael, should’ve had a much bigger Director
Your right many celebs was on thrlller documentary when they not work on thriller album. Will I am is on thrlller 25th album so that’s why they included will I am on this documentary
I just want to say how crazy it is that they left Chris Brown out the conversation when they did the whole recap of artist Michael inspired part … and continue to try to leave him out the conversation … I don’t condone what had happened But they gotta stop doing this to him. Who did they call to do the tribute when he passed on BET ? .. Chris.. he is still one of the most talented .. if not the most talented artist left
Bro u are right on point with everything u said and i was thinging the samething it coulda been done by spike lee again because he told everybody that he was coming with the thriller doc
How you feel about the detail channel on UA-cam and their Dangerous 30 documentary? I feel like the guy behind that channel has the right idea and has done a way better job than the estate covering MJs material
Does anyone know the name of the type beat being used in this video? I’d really like to know, and if anyone can tell me that would really mean the world.
Completement d accord. Document inexistant et sabs contenu. Tres grande deception. L estate conserve tous les documents depuis des annees sans jamais produire ni disc ni video ni film respectant l oeuvre de mj. Les videos sont souvent de mauvaise qualite. Ce document est juste pour nius laisser sur notre faim. Les masters multipistes ne sont jamais montres alors qu il accomplissait un travail phenomenal en studio. Les musiciens quincy et bruce ne sont pas la. Lamentable. J aime votre colere. 🎉
@OurKindofEntertainment the idea for it as genius that I didn't even notice I even amazingly have a better idea next to his ideas: The estate could've re-released the short films of "Billie Jean", "Beat It", & "Thriller" on television for the yonger generation would've had the experience that the other folks had grew up before the uprising and dependency of UA-cam. Airing it on MTV, VH1, BET, ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX (I'm just listing those networks as an example). Remastered "Billie Jean" short film, "Beat It" and "Thriller" have excellent remastered 4K treatment and it looks amazing, they should've remastered the Making of Thriller in 4K. Heavy promotion of Thriller 40 through commercials on TV, UA-cam, many other websites, billboards, magazines to make this album a BIG DEAL as it was back in 1982 and 1983. Remastering the Victory Tour full concert to be on UA-cam, DVD, and Blu-Ray. TAKE AWAY THE "THRILLER 25 REMIXES" AND NEVER LET IT GO NEAR THE THRILLER 40 REISSUE. And lastly, having every copy of the Thriller 40 into vinyls, CDs, cassette tapes in stores around the world with the reissue anniversary edition by having not just tracks we have that is known unreleases by the Moonwalker community but having "Nite Line" as the INTRO as a second disc and few outtakes abd extended versions of the classic 9 track listings of how it came before and alternate takes that listeners that the access to hear how this song became a progress of hearing on the radio today. If the estate had done that, it would've been the most incredible, greatest reissues out of any artists' catalog (next to the Beatles and Prince...wish the Jimi Hendrix estate would've done that too.)
Bro, your frustration is valid and well-spoken because you verbalized what I feel A LOT of fans felt about this thing! Honestly, I was going into this with low expectations when the documentary was announced because I learned Spike Lee wasn't directing like he did for Off The Wall & Bad...
Remember Lifetime did a 4-part documentary on Janet Jackson last year. Sure, that was about her entire life/career rather than one album. However, THAT is how they should've done Thriller 40! Kind of like The New Edition Story, this should've been spread out over MULTIPLE episodes. Why not do 4 to kinda align with it being the 40th anniversary?!
Episode 1: The gap between Off The Wall & Thriller covering MJ's desire to make the biggest album ever since Off The Wall didn't win the awards or have the cultural impact that he wanted it to have. Go over the production, writing and collaborations for EVERY TRACK ON THE ALBUM! No need to even spend much if any time on MJ's beginnings, Motown or The Jacksons era because the Off The Wall documentary did an excellent job covering all of that! Remember Bad 25 didn't spend too much time on that stuff at all. We got a BRIEF glimpse at how big Thriller was, how MJ planned to follow up that album and we jumped right into Bad.
Episode 2: The short films, Motown 25, Grammy & AMA sweeps and the Victory Tour/Pepsi stuff
Episode 3: The Thriller Era in general going over just the phenomenon that the album had during the 80s from the album sales, MJ merch, etc. Additional awards that the album received and records that it broke! This entire episode could just cover how massive the album was on a global scale!
Episode 4: The cultural impact of Thriller over the past 4 decades! Now, THIS is the episode where you could feature a number of musical artists who were inspired by MJ! From Chris Brown (his awesome Thriller performance at one award show and let's not forget his MJ tribute at the 2010 BET Awards) to Usher (yeah, Mr. Let It Burn could make a brief cameo in this episode too), The Weeknd and so many more! All of the social media info that they dropped in the documentary like TikTok numbers, etc. would fit into this episode as well.
There have been documentaries on albums that PALE in comparison to the success and impact of Thriller, but they were A LOT longer than 90 minutes! Bad 25 was over 2 hours and covered EVERYTHING that you needed to know! Heck, even MJ fanatics could walk out of that documentary having learned something new!
The Off The Wall documentary was only about 90 minutes, but they did SO MUCH with that time! It covered MJ's literal journey from 'Motown to OTW!' Like Bad 25, it went over EVERY SINGLE TRACK IN ORDER! Even the lesser known or less popular tracks got their time to shine! Thriller 40 just glossed over or didn't even mention Baby Be Mine & The Lady In My Life!
Also, this should've come out alongside the Thriller 40 album/vinyl releases last year during the ACTUAL 40th anniversary! If I remember correctly, Bad 25 documentary aired on ABC around or during the same time when the Bad 25 album was released. I know that the only way to purchase the DVD of the documentary was through the MJ website.
Journey From Motown to Off The Wall was released in a very special way. You could purchase the Off The Wall CD and it came with a DVD with the documentary!
I almost died laughing when you mentioned Good Burger 2 because I said the SAME THING to a friend because I did the $3.99 deal for the streaming service and figured I'd get a 2-for-1 deal by getting to watch GB 2 & Thriller 40 😂
As much as I can't wait for your future New Edition content, I'm REALLY eager for the MJ content you'll eventually do on your channel!
That’s actually a great idea, if they did something like what The Last Dance Netflix series was for Michael Jordan. But that’s beyond their comprehension and even if it wasn’t, they are too lazy to put the effort in to really bring that project into fruition.
And it isn’t like they don’t have the footage because they do. They filmed the entire 1998 season of the bulls, and then revolved the interviews on top of the unreleased footage and it was super successful. Needless to say about how successful a Michael Jackson Netflix limited docuseries would be.
And yeah I’m excited to start doing Michael Jackson albums once I’m finished with New Edition. I appreciate your thoughts 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
I think as MJ fans, we were underwhelmed because we’ve already done years of research on Michael. This was more for the people that don’t know these facts about this album. There’s really nothing new that they told us that isn’t already in the internet. I do, however, like the fact that the rest of the public is enjoying this. This documentary is #1 on paramount + and his streaming numbers have shot up even further
It seems like Michael Jackson’s legacy and likeness is just a commodity that they use to make profit. They aren’t concerned with building upon it; just doing the bare minimum so we can’t say they’re doing nothing.
@@misterDjayMDJ I agree with this. Hopefully, in the biopic, they give us something new that we didn’t know about him. I wasn’t too excited for the documentary but I’m very hyped about the biopic, especially after seeing that clip of Jaafar
Honestly, I was more excited about the doc than the biopic. It’s way less chance of F-ing up.
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They know all the fans are waiting for to show it. Its all for money and the rating they know if mj show on tv the rating is high. Now the fans now are mobilising waiting to watch mj the BIOPICon a big screen. We hope that the estate will do the project a DOC. and movie concert THE BAD TOUR. THE REHEARSAL PPL BEHIND CAMERA TO SHOW ALL COUNTRY WHERE HE DID THIS AND ALL THE AUDIENCE FROM THE CONCERT AND LAST THE FULL CONCERT IN WEMBLY OR JAPAN.
Thank you for telling the truth about this documentary. Michael Jackson’s story needs to be told the right way on any subject regarding his music, creativity, performances, ideas etc. This should be the same for any artist that’s beloved by the public whether it’s Prince, James Brown, Stevie Wonder, Luther Vandross etc. They have to do it right every single time!
I was hoping you would make a video about this because I felt the same way about Thriller 40. Great video as always.
Spike Lee should have done it.
"BAD 25 was the best. Real people were involved."
Here's what I feel they left out: (1) THRILLER got the record business out of a three-year slump (1979-1982); (2) It also buried that DISCO SUCKS movement once and for all; and 3) The VHS sales of MAKING MICHAEL JACKSON'S THRILLER significantly increased VCR sales.
I agree 💯💯💯💯💯% with everything you saying
WE NEEDED MORE
Hopefully if they ever do Dangerous they let Spike Lee do it because Dangerous is my favorite album and one of my favorite tours
Spot on!!!
Nelson George didn't even LIKE MJ.
I enjoyed listening to your take on this, I agree with everyone else as far as wanting to see your future videos on MJ
For an album as huge as Thriller, this documentary deserved to be a docuseries.
MAN!!!! You are hilarious, I do not have a Showtime subscription so I have not seen the documentary (or mockumentary like you said) but I will take your word for it and skip out on it. Good job on this video young brother keep it up. And I can’t wait for the Ralph Tresvant album video!
This doc was all over the place, the sequencing was horrible, and I wish more was covered, plus the songs should’ve been broken down more. The rare footage was the only highlight, but I NEED A CONCERT FILM! Also Vincent Price wasn’t MENTIONED!
I agree with you bro, I was a bit disappointed especially considering that I’ve seen both of the Spike Lee documentaries many times over and to me they are templates for what great music retrospectives should be. I honestly don’t know which of those two I love the most but if I had to choose I’d say “Journey From Motown To Off The Wall”, but “Bad 25” is in the closest of 2nd place. I set the bar LOW for any new Michael Jackson content so I wasn’t too upset with it. If it’s any consolation, my 5 year old nephew walked in the room and caught the last 1/3 of the doc and when it was over he wanted to watch more Michael Jackson videos. The ENTIRE “Thriller 40” project has been lackluster. It’s so much more satisfying being a Prince fan right now; that “Diamonds and Pearls” super deluxe reissue with all the unreleased material and concert/rehearsal footage and new interviews with Prince’s collaborators from that time was EXCELLENT! And they do this sorta thing every 2 years.
The fans should create a documentary, so many fans have the talent and the skills to create something spectacular in honor of Michael Jackson, you make some really good points, your very articulate with your delivery in how you explain your thoughts, you have some really good idea's, you should be in the management department, for the creating of something for Michael or for the making of something for Michael, you really should be there at the top, I think you would have a lot of support for things like that, you have the capacity to do things along those lines, I'd definitely vote for you to be a manager of some sort, you are genuine and real about things, and I think you have the ability to create something high quality and high class, something that just goes above and beyond, way over the bar 🌸
Thank you, I appreciate you saying all that. I'm actually going to be doing album retrospectives on Michael albums real soon. I've already been doing them on New Edition since last year and I've gotten great feedback from them over time. If you're into New Edition, Bobby Brown etc, you should definitely give those videos a watch so you can get an idea of what you can expect for the retrospective on Off The Wall.
It's okay, I share my honest opinions on things when certain things get my attention, and if I feel the need to say something, then I will, often I will make a comment to people who I think are authentic, genuine, sincere and real, I've watched a few of your videos and I think you are an intelligent person, what you said in your comment in response to my comment, that's great, to hear that, with what your working on, you definitely sound like you know what your talking about, and I really hope your projects go really well, the passion for Michael is evident, you just have something that is there, you have that creativeness about you, and what you say makes a lot of sense, I'm not familiar with New Edition, I don't think, and I don't know much about Bobby Brown's work, I know that he was married to Whitney and that's about it really, but I respect a lot of your opinions in relation to Michael Jackson, so your recommendations to watch those videos, is intriguing, but what you produce for Michael or what you end up making in the name/honor of Michael, that is something to really look forward to, I literally have more faith in the fans to do something so incredible for Michael, and with keeping his legacy alive 🌸
Great Video. Being in Nigeria, i got to watch the documentary late....the honest truth is that i hear you, but ......the sad thing is MJ is no longer with us, and the Estate....are doing what they think the fans want.....which isnt this...compared to other estates....they are doing something...sadly the quality could be better. Lets pray for the MJ movie...
oh man i totally feel you bro😭. clearly they missed key points in each song. they barely touched the unreleased / demos in depth as well. especially the clear proof that they have much more in the vault that is worth showing to us
This Documentary was just an utterly uncohesive mess! My issue is that the structure isn’t even on par with Spike Lee’s Off The Wall documentary imma just say this to keep it short…Bad 25 = Structure,Journey from Motown to Off The Wall = Information, and Thriller 40 = Rare Footage👑💯(Now i will say Mary J Blige was apart of the cast for MJ’s “Number Ones” Documentary from (2003) handpicked by MJ so she deserved her spot tbh and I agree that they have all of MJ’s concerts on film theater quality from the original source in MJ’s Archival Vault just sitting in there to rot smh it’s just underwhelming at this point. But what i will say is this documentary made me gain even more respect that I already had for MJ just knowing all the obstacles that was put in the way of his legendary Thriller Era run.)
I was surprised on how short the documentary was.
Micheal De Lorenzo from NY Undercover was in the beat it video too he should've been in this
i think they released the doc dec 2 cuz the Thriller video was released 40 yrs ago! LOVE your Michael Jackson commentaries!! can't wait until u do Michael's albums! there's a podcast called STORIES IN THE ROOM by Anthony Marinelli who worked on Thriller w Michael. check it out .. very detailed info!!😁💗💗
Will definitely check that out when I get the chance. I appreciate you commenting and supporting my videos; thank you 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Nobody is talking about the crime of Paul McCartney and MJ singing I Was Made To Love Her by Stevie Wonder and the person talking over it
Not to mention, Spike Lee has worked with MJ for the TDCAU video in Brazil and hosts “Brooklyn Loves MJ” in NY. With QJ, he put out that interview and said MJ stole “Billie Jean” so that could be why…
Thank you so much Mr. Dimtri, much love and appreciation for what you do, did a great job as usual. I haven't seen the documentary yet but I plan to watch it with a friend tomorrow and see the flaws. Once again, great content. Please take care and stay safe ❤.
Full documentaries in the Beatles "Anthology"-style would be the only way to go, with interviews with all the people who were around when the albums/concerts/tours were created, not just opinions from people that weren't even born at the time.
It's going to be the same songs original and unreleased that is it so the documentary it just the story of how he met Quincy Jones and how he did thriller so it just stupid noting new
I completely agree with EVERYTHING you said. It was fun too watching you rant about it. I do feel that the estate only has one objective which is not satisfying fans, but creating new fans with a minimum amount of new footage. Making sure the legend continuous. So they can do the same trick 10 years from now with again a few new clips so those new fans can walk out Thriller 50 feeling disappointed like we all are today. I expect the same to happen with his biopic. Hope I’m wrong.
To be honest I was okay with it, it wasn't perfect. It made me gain more respect for Michael Jackson as an innovator and debunked the next King Of Pop claims.
Appreciate you sharing your thoughts man, only [ignorant] Michael Jackson haters are going around claiming that these new, horrible, Bobby Boogaloo artists can be the next King Of Pop. An artist surpassing Michael Jackson will never happen with or without a documentary.
@@misterDjayMDJ No problem! Even now white celebrities public figures are calling Taylor Swift the biggest Pop star of all time, and saying her era is bigger than Thriller and Beatlemania.
You won’t see the Michael brand being promoted properly with all the endless possibilities of new projects being released until Sony get what they want; ownership of his personal catalogue.
Bad 25 and Motown to off the wall shits on thriller 40❗️
Agreed. First, i recall an interview with Toure, where nelson george saying he never cared for Thriller album. Second, hes best friends with chris rock and BOTH are die hard Prince fans. So thats why this doc seemed bias and half assed
BROTHER.....PREACH!!!! SAY THAT SHIT! I got so much more I wanna say but it's too much to type....literally bro! Because this shit had me 38hot!!
Casual fans probably loved it. REAL fans deeply disappointed
People like Rod temperton . Vincent price. Footage and photos was not included in thriller 40 documentary when I seen there’s photos of mj with Vincent price
I felt exactly how you feel about it!!!…Very disappointing. No replay value whatsoever!!!…The estate continues to drop the ball when it comes to MJ👎🏼
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Totally agree with U. The celebs added absolutely nothing. The most interesting part was the dude with all the keyboards & synthesisers.
I feel exactly the same way, been fan since 1982 and documentary was all over the place. Too much talking and the footage was flashes. Documentary should been focused on people who was involved in the project. If they wanted Usher, will i am, BTS should be all at the end. Were is the Billie jean behind the scenes footage ? Were is talk about his image with photoshoot footage ? Should of been at least 10 minute non stop footage at once ? Why isnt Billie Jean not in 4k yet ? Why isn't making of Thriller update version not done yet ?
In the documentary they left out Omarion and Chris Brown of the timeline after Usher came out and they all was inspired Michael Jackson
I was disappointed in this doc. As an MJ fan who has done tons of research there was absolutely nothing in the doc I’ve never seen or heard before. All of the original video of mj during that time is on UA-cam already.
If they want to release this on Blu-ray, they need to change it completely.
Agree with everything bro! Actually went to the test screening in London last year and although it was good to be amongst so many people that appreciated MJs art and have the opportunity to see some new footage, I was extremely underwhelmed. Why they didnt get Spike Lee to do it I dont know coz BAD 25 was lightyears ahead of this in terms of its content. Remember watching that for the first time and seeing the behind the scenes footage of the BAD short film thinking "YES! FINALLY!" The estate hasnt really done anything worth while since that imho. Thing is.. they actually cleaned this documentary up quite alot.. you would've been even more disappointed with some of the quality of footage they spliced in, it looked sloppy! Glad they did something and yeah I'd probably watch it again coz its MJ, but they definitely dropped the ball
The estate did alow budget for thriller. Why the estate doing this to mj.the greatest artist of all time? The fans must speak out no one was greater than him the nw artist of today. We are all hungry to mj music. Its beeb aling time they release an album. Poor mj we did really missed you. RIP THE KING.
I agree 💯 with every word you said
Literally not enough of Michael in it for me. And just peoples opinions on thriller as an album. I am so over being underwhelmed with these projects they are dropping. It makes me worry for the biopic.
I thought I was the only one that thought it could’ve been better. I didn’t think it was as bad as he’s describing. But I gave it a C. Someone as big as Michael, should’ve had a much bigger Director
Everything you said was valid. Spike Lee should have directed the documentary.
"I agree, man. Great comments!"
I’m so grateful to be featured in the documentary as the dancer in #PoloG music video ! #Thriller40 ✨🕴🏻✨
Your right many celebs was on thrlller documentary when they not work on thriller album. Will I am is on thrlller 25th album so that’s why they included will I am on this documentary
I just want to say how crazy it is that they left Chris Brown out the conversation when they did the whole recap of artist Michael inspired part … and continue to try to leave him out the conversation … I don’t condone what had happened But they gotta stop doing this to him. Who did they call to do the tribute when he passed on BET ? .. Chris.. he is still one of the most talented .. if not the most talented artist left
Have u seen jafar rehearsing for the biopic looks like he goin to do amazing 🤩🤩🤩
Will be doing a video about that soon 👍🏾
Bro u are right on point with everything u said and i was thinging the samething it coulda been done by spike lee again because he told everybody that he was coming with the thriller doc
How you feel about the detail channel on UA-cam and their Dangerous 30 documentary? I feel like the guy behind that channel has the right idea and has done a way better job than the estate covering MJs material
No way. The guy that runs that channel constantly releases negative content about Michael and he’s not even a fan
Other than the unreleased footage, it was pretty underwhelming. I was always hoping Spike Lee was the one to take on the documentary.
Yes bruh DO IT YOURSELF, PLEASE DO IT because they CLEARLY don't have any real interest in putting any real chyt for Mike together
I 100% AGREE BROTHER 💯💪🏿
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Bruh Nelson George, Brooke Shields, and John Landis have all talked shit about MJ. They DEFINITELY didn’t even need to be there tbh
Does anyone know the name of the type beat being used in this video? I’d really like to know, and if anyone can tell me that would really mean the world.
This is nothing new to us.. the estate completely messes things up every single time... My hate for John Branca is sincere haha
Agree 10009& soo disappointing!!
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Obviously they didn't care enough to do it,"RIGHT"🙁...
They just to get seen .They get credit weren't do to DrMicheal j. I seen it yet.
Completement d accord. Document inexistant et sabs contenu. Tres grande deception. L estate conserve tous les documents depuis des annees sans jamais produire ni disc ni video ni film respectant l oeuvre de mj. Les videos sont souvent de mauvaise qualite. Ce document est juste pour nius laisser sur notre faim. Les masters multipistes ne sont jamais montres alors qu il accomplissait un travail phenomenal en studio. Les musiciens quincy et bruce ne sont pas la. Lamentable. J aime votre colere. 🎉
J'apprécie votre visionnage et votre commentaire, merci. Je vais certainement écouter d’autres vidéos de Michael Jackson que je ferai à l’avenir
😂😂😂😂🔥🔥🔥🔥 I watched this twice
I agree bruh like really was a bad documentary
@OurKindofEntertainment the idea for it as genius that I didn't even notice
I even amazingly have a better idea next to his ideas:
The estate could've re-released the short films of "Billie Jean", "Beat It", & "Thriller" on television for the yonger generation would've had the experience that the other folks had grew up before the uprising and dependency of UA-cam. Airing it on MTV, VH1, BET, ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX (I'm just listing those networks as an example).
Remastered "Billie Jean" short film, "Beat It" and "Thriller" have excellent remastered 4K treatment and it looks amazing, they should've remastered the Making of Thriller in 4K.
Heavy promotion of Thriller 40 through commercials on TV, UA-cam, many other websites, billboards, magazines to make this album a BIG DEAL as it was back in 1982 and 1983.
Remastering the Victory Tour full concert to be on UA-cam, DVD, and Blu-Ray.
TAKE AWAY THE "THRILLER 25 REMIXES" AND NEVER LET IT GO NEAR THE THRILLER 40 REISSUE.
And lastly, having every copy of the Thriller 40 into vinyls, CDs, cassette tapes in stores around the world with the reissue anniversary edition by having not just tracks we have that is known unreleases by the Moonwalker community but having "Nite Line" as the INTRO as a second disc and few outtakes abd extended versions of the classic 9 track listings of how it came before and alternate takes that listeners that the access to hear how this song became a progress of hearing on the radio today.
If the estate had done that, it would've been the most incredible, greatest reissues out of any artists' catalog (next to the Beatles and Prince...wish the Jimi Hendrix estate would've done that too.)