The right way to give up on music

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  • Опубліковано 22 лис 2024

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  • @VenusTheory
    @VenusTheory  Рік тому +64

    Who else has a dinner appointment with their own self loathing tonight? ✋
    📢 Soundgym ► soundgym.co/?aff=9058

    • @robertmkorte
      @robertmkorte Рік тому +2

      Me me me 🎉

    • @clementinelives
      @clementinelives Рік тому +1

      🗿

    • @oneshotgangsta
      @oneshotgangsta Рік тому +3

      This video saved my day today! By and large! Thank you for the work you do!

    • @religionoffreedom
      @religionoffreedom Рік тому +1

      My resolution was to not buy plugins until Black Friday, but I folded and spent about $100.

    • @djnunapitchuk3992
      @djnunapitchuk3992 Рік тому +1

      We don't go out anymore, since the shotgun wedding a few years back. I'll be eating leftover dog food on the couch, trying to bang her sister, self destruction, and praying that I catch herpes. Mmm, love me some herpes.

  • @alesdi1732
    @alesdi1732 Рік тому +218

    “A creative project isn’t finished by adding it to the pile, it’s finished by knowing that what’s been added and what’s been done is all that’s truly necessary”

    • @HOLLASOUNDS
      @HOLLASOUNDS Рік тому +15

      If I dont finish a instrumental then it gets saved and I do something else, then one day when I have a bit of beat block I'll go through the ideas foulder and finish the project. I just post strings on a unfinished project from 2008 sounds great now.

    • @dirtysolarremix
      @dirtysolarremix Рік тому

      Sounds a great idea actually!💯

  • @Uuuu-y8s
    @Uuuu-y8s Рік тому +218

    this guy has an incredible skill to make me feel like shit and great at the same time.

    • @VenusTheory
      @VenusTheory  Рік тому +59

      That's the power of the stache haha

    • @CptSnarkyPants
      @CptSnarkyPants Рік тому +3

      @@VenusTheory have epic stache. Can confirm.

    • @rhinoskin7550
      @rhinoskin7550 9 місяців тому

      @@VenusTheory You're a genius man

  • @iseeu-fp9po
    @iseeu-fp9po Рік тому +4

    In my youth I used to listen a lot to this Prog-Jazz band from my city. They consist of a large group of professional musicians, sort of like a collective, and they record and tour. Great band.
    One day at my workplace I get told that it would be nice if I could show this new guy around and teach him some stuff. To my great surprise it turns out to be one of the musicians of that band. Turns out to be a very nice guy in all aspects and being a fan of his band I asked him about the process of creating knowing that he writes a lot of music both with the band and for other projects.
    His advice was pretty much: "It's a lot of work but you got to do it".
    Not to say he didn't enjoy the process, but the romantic idea of someone writing in a state of continuous ecstasy is probably far from what it actually means to create on a regular basis.
    There is no circumventing discipline and to doing the work when it all comes down to it, but that is not necessarily something negative. It just needs to be understood and accepted.
    So easy, yet so difficult. So difficult, yet so easy.
    I also asked a guy I know who writes music for TV and film if he ever got writers block, and his response was: "I don't have time for that shit". :P
    Both of those guys seem to have their "Why's" and discipline in order.
    (Please excuse my 2 AM Scandivenglish). :)

    • @micindir4213
      @micindir4213 Рік тому

      They both right. Time = money. When you’re having writer’s block or contemplating life instead of working on music, you’re probably rich. This is true swag to be a musician and do this sort of stuff. Only top tier artists can afford that shit.

    • @badbeardbill9956
      @badbeardbill9956 Рік тому

      You don’t rise to the occasion you fall to your level of training/experience/discipline/workflow. You need a way to make music even when you have no inspiration, if you’re obligated to make music like that

  • @AdamKirbyMusic
    @AdamKirbyMusic Рік тому +59

    I love your talks, they are the perfect combination of philosophy and humor.

    • @VenusTheory
      @VenusTheory  Рік тому +10

      Welcome to another episode of clinical depression meets funny funny mustache jokey boi time.

    • @DolphinDreamEmulator
      @DolphinDreamEmulator Рік тому

      ​@@VenusTheory i was distracted by your comments, guys, and the first thing i heard when i began watching video again was "in the end, there is no escape from boss fight".
      That was... Crazy. Huh.

  • @monochrome72
    @monochrome72 Рік тому +29

    As a Reaper user, starting using DAWs back in 2008.. It warms my heart to see you work in Reaper.. Keep up the tremendous work Cameron

  • @amazeus1980
    @amazeus1980 Рік тому +2

    Many our blockades are not only technical, there is a lot of psychology to it…one of the biggest blockades is fear of success and what lies under that fear or what triggers that fear, can vary from individual to individual…for example, success means to us that there are more people around us who wear facades and we don’t want to deal with that…thus we block that success, subconsciously of course. It can be anything really…
    Because look at our tools, we have everything now…so what else is stopping us? Equipment is not the case really…

  • @Josh.Bartel
    @Josh.Bartel Рік тому +19

    Your video planning, video creation and clear, purposeful delivery of information is second to none. I feel like I’m watching a mini documentary with each video and I love it.

  • @Tosabor
    @Tosabor Рік тому +53

    Bro you've really helped me stay consistent and motivated. Realizing that all artist go through the same mental hurdles i go through. Appreciate you broski

    • @HOLLASOUNDS
      @HOLLASOUNDS Рік тому +1

      I dont ever struggle with making music to be honest, well I do start stuff that I dont finish however it aways gets done eventually, it could be a cupple days or a cupple of years until I finish something. I'm not really bothered if a idea dont work now, as it will in the future 9 times out of 10.

    • @VenusTheory
      @VenusTheory  Рік тому +3

      'preciate you too partner 🤠

  • @David.C.Velasquez
    @David.C.Velasquez Рік тому +1

    Oblique Strategies can help, when ideas are starting to waiver, and creativity is at a dead end.

  • @TheVirakahScale
    @TheVirakahScale Рік тому +22

    I appreciate the harsh honesty that you portray in these videos. I think this sort of stuff it's something we all need to hear once in awhile.

  • @pauldolman7487
    @pauldolman7487 Рік тому +2

    Im not afraid of failure, i usually quit because im bored and cant get a sense of flow due to lack of a series of inspiration, experience and knowledge etc... Another thing that gets me bored, reading cheap self help books that actually dont work. Sometimes you just got to get on with it and take the rough with the smooth.

  • @robjanssen7420
    @robjanssen7420 Рік тому +20

    So many of these videos deeply resonate with me. The most infuriating part is that my mind knows these things and then still doesn't act on it.

    • @HOLLASOUNDS
      @HOLLASOUNDS Рік тому

      If I can listen to My music and I cant think of anything to add or anything that will make it better, that's it, its finished and I'll pretty much never change it again. I say pretty much because sometimes there is things I dont know how to fix however a new update to My DAW means that I can now easily fix the problem. Today's knowledge fixing the problems of yesterday.

  • @grrdjf
    @grrdjf Рік тому +7

    Decide to quit rather than end up quitting = genius. Thank you. 🙏🏻

  • @KAJIMEIKARA
    @KAJIMEIKARA Рік тому +5

    This is is what I needed to hear. Been stuck on a music production resolution feeling like I'm out of ideas but recently picked up on momentum. It's quite reassuring that we're all not alone on our endeavours struggling to make them a reality. Thank You!!

  • @bryangrunauer
    @bryangrunauer Рік тому +14

    I love the idea of quitting with confidence! Makes a lot of sense, thank you.

    • @VenusTheory
      @VenusTheory  Рік тому +4

      It's one of those weirdly obvious things I think we forget about all the time haha. It's so easy to just throw your hands up in the air and say 'fuck this it sucks' without being able to take a moment and provide any actual reasoning.

    • @bryangrunauer
      @bryangrunauer Рік тому

      ​@@VenusTheory yes! Even applies to the big picture, it makes me think of big acts like daft punk or noisia who decided to announce the end instead of just fading.

    • @kaiateya
      @kaiateya Рік тому +3

      I was writing a visual novel, coding it, writing the script, making art for it, making the soundtrack, doing voice acting.. it was too damned much. I burnt out big time. But I gave myself a few weeks to chill and then pivoted it into a short story, a soundtrack, and maybe later, a multimedia thing that includes the art. But yeah, it was good to admit it simply wasn't going to happen as it was, and stop depressing myself, salvage the pieces to release something.

  • @evil_in_your_closet
    @evil_in_your_closet Рік тому +4

    When i first started watching your videos, i often ended up saving them in my "music-production Tips" folder... Nowadays, the more i watch of what you have to say, the more often i sort them into "personal", "mental health" and "life advice". I relate to your videos very much and they help me gain insight - and that's not just related to making music. Thank you.

  • @arnabkumar4610
    @arnabkumar4610 Рік тому +68

    Thank you for all the hard work you are putting it out! Just here to let you know the work is acknowledged

  • @thefloop2813
    @thefloop2813 Рік тому +1

    Big grin seeing reaper on your screen. Reaper is like Deep Thought from the hitchikers guide, It can do anything, and it knows everything, and so can you, but ONLY if you ask the right questions. Ask the wrong questions and all you'll ever get from it is "42"

  • @-alexanderhosch-4828
    @-alexanderhosch-4828 Рік тому +2

    I'm not a musical artist. However the words you speak still apply to drawn art.
    Thank you for being you and for formulating your thoughts, it helps me think about my own art.

  • @ma2ko
    @ma2ko Рік тому

    Finally! Someone with music his videos that is not distractive.

  • @MOSMASTERING
    @MOSMASTERING Рік тому +71

    I appreciate the fact that this is a completely different style of music and creativity channel.
    I'm sick to death of clickbait 'this one secret trick will turn you into a grammy award winning producer'.
    These video essays are far more appealing to me because I often come up against the same mindset
    I've wanted to be a musician for as long as I can remember. I suffer from imposter syndrome. I like what I make, until I've heard it on a loop for 3000 times and I care too much about the tiny details nobody else cares about,
    I feel like I am slowly improving, but these 18 year old kis with careers and hit after hit to their name are incomprehensible to me. Also, its not the sort of music I like or want to make (I'm far more complicated and deeply emotional than these hacks!)
    My dream is to make one great song that I am truly proud of - then get an email from one of the 20 people that ever heard it, saying just how much they appreciated the miniscule detail and effort put into one specific part (like the way that the transient of a snare weaves inbetween the hi-hats and the reverb is gated to an exact minisecond value based on the BPM).
    I was sure nobody else would ever notice, so I feel validated in wasting so much time hyperfocused on one thing.
    Then my life wil be complete. I mean, probably.. maybe... most likely.

    • @speckslove
      @speckslove Рік тому +3

      i feel this. Been liking this dudes channel lately. Lots of stuff you already know, and may preach to others, but don't practice myself. Sometimes its good to just hear it from another person, give you a good wake up call that you can relate too.

    • @MOSMASTERING
      @MOSMASTERING Рік тому

      ​@@speckslove Absolutely!
      I think people that think they are improving as a producer or musician because they spend many hours per day simply looking at and making use of single-use tricks are actually going nowhere fast!
      My only improvement in making music has come from endless repetitions of making track after track and slowly refining my workflow that suits me.
      I LOVE macros and chain presets that I've created - I always add version numbers too when I get a significant upgrade.
      For example, when making a specific bass sound for dance music, I immediately open up 'Bass Chain March 2023 v0.8'
      So I always have a starting point - and any new great settings, I update my chain and save it.
      Occasionally, if I stumble across an interesting sounding tip then I will deliberately over-use it within a track I'm currently working on so that I can familiarise myself with it and also see where it could work or be useful.

    • @VenusTheory
      @VenusTheory  Рік тому +23

      Well glad to hear it - that's pretty much exactly my goal haha. I was getting so fed up making gear videos and whatnot because it felt like just throwing stuff into the machine and running on this stupid endless hamster wheel for no real reason at all and not really contributing anything to the bigger picture.
      I feel like we all have these sorts of conversations 'behind closed doors' so to speak and it just seems odd nobody wants to actually talk about it on platforms like this and instead wants to just fetishize the latest and greatest thing or talk about the 'art of the grind' and whatever. Just feels so...fake? at this point. Not really even sure but I'm so glad that this sort of stuff has been doing so well and resonating with so many people because I feel like this is the shit we NEED to talk about and not just another fuckin delay pedal or something haha.

    • @MOSMASTERING
      @MOSMASTERING Рік тому +4

      @@VenusTheory
      I appreciate you reading my waffle! haha...
      Thank you for your reply :)
      I reminisce sometimes over my trajectory within production - a lot of serendipity.
      I was 40 last year and I started making music in 2001 while at university.
      A guy I lived with in student accomodation showed me Reason 1.0 and it blew my mind. That evening altered the course of my entire life - even from the music I listened to, to the way I appreciated music (it changed the way I listened, from overall song to hearing the production as well as the song.
      Also, I played piano my whole life but I found it hard to admit that I never truly loved it. Synths gave me a whole new way of appreciating it - I also started learning electric guitar because I could obsess over its tone, sound and effects (even basic musical things - you can't pitch bend a piano!)
      In the last 10 years I also got serious about mastering because it suited my obsession with sound quality, so I dived deep into that and I'm still improving all the time.
      So - way back when, after I taught myself everything about Reason, I began to find it limited, so I moved to Cubase. I've used it ever since.
      After my university course ended in my unrelated subject (that's a whole other story!) I did several courses - including Electronic Music Production at SAE in London . Personally, I found it a huge waste of time. I was so into production that I'd already taught myself so much that I didn't learn anything new. Although, I began teaching. Many students quit the course and asked me to teach them privately. I still teach privately and part time at the local music college now.
      I have very opinionated and pushy parents - they told me in the late 90s that I should give up on computers because they'll never amount to anything (I had taught myself web design, coding, graphic design, 3D animation.. I just loved learning new stuff. I listened to them fr too much. I honestly don't know where I'd be if production hadn't inspire so much passion - NOBODY was going to tell me not to pursue it, it meant too much. I loved the blend of psychology, physics and creativity! It can get pretty deep!
      For all its negative points, endless jun, opinionated arguments and rudeness - the modern day internet has an interesting side effect - I believe it can (for better or worse) support the feeling that you can pursue whatever you want and there is an audience for you. I can't believe some of the top UA-camrs make a literal fortune from doing seeminly mundane activities like makeup, playing video games or unboxing shopping!
      nyway, the saddest thing, for me, about my whole 'career' in music is never finding a single other person to collaborate with.
      After realeasing one great song I'm truly happy with - my number 2 bucket list item is to do a few collabs - I imagine it would be an incredible boost in skills. From sharing technique, learning compromise and a bunch of other great stuff - most of all, I think it would just be great fun.
      Thanks again for all you do. It's wonderful.

    • @freashty
      @freashty Рік тому +2

      Not sure if this was supposed to be sarcastic but assuming you are somehow more complex or emotionally deep than any other person is probably doing more to hold your music back than it is doing to help you

  • @tasenova2717
    @tasenova2717 Рік тому

    I figured out that as a self-made artist, people all over have said, "wow you are really good at this, you should release what you have" and I say "no, not enough". I realize, at least for me, I do this for my ego, and I should understand moving forward I am not special, I am not special toward the market. So whatever time I waste, I should get comfortable with the fact that I should like my grave

  • @Spiderdridri
    @Spiderdridri Рік тому +1

    I believe that one of the most challenging things, as an artist, is to truly feel aligned with your guts and feelings : trusting and embracing your instincts. Whenever I make a track that I genuinely FEEL good with, and that feeling stays with me the next day when I listen back to it, then I know it's a keeper. My motto is "if there's a doubt, there's no doubt".
    And the key is to keep working on listening to your guts and instincts.
    Thanks for your inspiring insights, mate : always appreciate your videos!

  • @thefrozensea9314
    @thefrozensea9314 Рік тому +2

    Great stuff as always. As to "finding your why", the brilliant Bill Burford once said something like "We do this because we can't sleep at night. If you can sleep at night, you shouldn't be doing this anyway". I think that fits well with my philosophy, as long as it's not interpreted in a gatekeeping kind of way.
    As for knowing what songs are good enough, I often find I go down a rabbit hole of nothing being good enough. So if I ever need to limit my output to the very best, collaborating with a producer (amateur or otherwise) might be my best bet.

  • @haaazzziiim
    @haaazzziiim Рік тому

    I typed “give up music” so that I can hear songs about giving up. But then I stumbled upon this gem

  • @DJLA
    @DJLA Рік тому +3

    Mate, I have never thought of looking at tackling creative work like the flow of video game before....but that is so spot on. Great metaphor! Keep up the great videos!!

  • @brandtreppond2167
    @brandtreppond2167 9 місяців тому

    I'm so happy I have the chance to watch your videos. They've been helping me keep my head right as a creator

  • @trapkat8213
    @trapkat8213 Рік тому

    Ed Sheeran at one point gave the advice that whatever you are working on, you MUST finish it. Even if you can't come up with anything of decent quality, just add something so that you can call it done. "Get it out of your system" he said. I am no fan of Ed Sheeran but he is making a valid point here. I have had ideas in my head that sort of had priority because I thought they were good. In reality I never managed to develop them further, and they stopped me from moving on.

  • @edgenovese
    @edgenovese Рік тому

    Always smart and on point! Self reflection is a chore we all must face, like changing the sheets on a fitted bed. A pain in the ass, but needed... Great content and thinking...

  • @Mojo_Musik
    @Mojo_Musik Рік тому +1

    You are wise beyond your years my friend. Truly appreciate the recent series of videos you've made. They have helped me to reflect and decode some of the inner complexities of my mind that have been holding me back for years

  • @plexxarbiitch
    @plexxarbiitch Рік тому +1

    A problem I have isn’t the fact that I show people my music and they say it’s shit. My problem is that when I show music they say they’re gonna listen to it but they never do, and they don’t ever give a compliment or tell me what I did right. It’s like sending it to my dad would give me better results

  • @DnzVdskr
    @DnzVdskr Рік тому

    Sincerely...Thank You!

  • @aptudo
    @aptudo Рік тому

    Long time watcher. You've evolved this channel into something truly thoughtful and inspiring. I think it's no exaggeration to say that you're helping people on a deeper level these days. Your ideas resonate with me and I just want to say thank you for sharing stuff like this.

  • @NexxuSix
    @NexxuSix Рік тому +2

    11:37 "You never gonna know unless you try" is probably the best advice in this video. Thank you for the inspiration =)

  • @dooshnukem32
    @dooshnukem32 Рік тому

    Thanks Cameron. There are others out here digging into the heady stuff, but you speak from the trenches instead of the pulpit. It does not go unnoticed. Your channel is one of my favorite subscriptions. Hope you are well!

  • @fotgjengeren
    @fotgjengeren Рік тому

    I don't have an exact end goal or end date in mind when it comes to creation. This doesn't hinder my output, as I've gained an understanding over the years of when something is finished or better, getting closed to being finished. The process is slow, and I believe it needs to be this way. I'm not all that good at "banging something out." An idea takes form as a concept, or I'll lay down some kind of structure in place, which can be either rigid or malleable. A part of my process is trying new things, and I don't always know where this could take me. For me, it's important to have this openness, while retaining some guage of whether or not this can serve a track/album. I'm not afraid to let ideas incubate and come back to them later. Of course, some get abandoned, and that is ok. I feel like I am learning a lot from the ideas that don't get fully realized, as well.

  • @normapadro420
    @normapadro420 Рік тому

    This is the reason why I did research on every DAW out there. I chose a few that were helpful to me. I use 5 of them. I use vsts that are going to produce the entire project. I use sounds that I can either enhance once. I don't use any other buttons. It's too much time wasted. Once everything sounds right I render it, and ready to start another song. It takes me 3 minutes to complete a song. I stop after one song, or begin another. Usually I shut the laptop, and do other things. 3 minutes to create a song, and that's all I invest.

  • @jackedkerouac4414
    @jackedkerouac4414 Рік тому

    Glad I watched this before bed. I honestly never even thought of turning off my internet. That's what I'm doing tomorrow, especially when I eat lunch. I always watch UA-cam when I eat then the slackage commences.

  • @altermoremusic
    @altermoremusic Рік тому

    When I'm sitting up to write or working on music, I just turn off the Internet or use flying mode and don't touch the phone until I'm done with my session. I'm still working on it after one year of antidepressants and now also because of war in our country. It's a long story but now I am 32 years old and I feel time is running from me. But now I'm working and creating great music from good ideas much simpler than before. And now I'm working on my debut synthwave album 🙋🏻‍♂️ Thank you for this stylish video 👍

  • @ikeaboy_damo
    @ikeaboy_damo Рік тому

    This is the video that made me subscribe. This is the stuff that helps people.

  • @metaphoricalsoundeffects1400

    Whoa, this resonate so much ! I've had since a few time now i think a burn out, loosing my purpose. I've had to think about a new "why" because i was thinking recently my "why" wasn't enough to get things done. For example, now i think my "why" is to have fun, so i can keep doign things without thinking about consequences, and find new ways to create. =) Thanks for your video

  • @TwiliteConspiracies
    @TwiliteConspiracies Рік тому

    I F**king love you man! I watched this like 5 times. As a musician and fellow soundsmith, you hit the nail on the head with this. Consistency and discipline are the everyone's everything in what they do in their every day lives. What we tell ourselves, will be our reality. We are the manifesters of our reality. All we as creator beings have to do is is be determined and be positive in what we can achieve. I am, and so it shall be!
    Excuses only get you what you dont want in life.
    Your channels awesome content has added more fuel to my fire.🎉🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🎊 in everything I do. The world wants to bring me down to their shit level and I refuse! Only awesomeness will prevail in my timeline and you are one of the great souls out there that make things better in this parasitic fallen finite world we chose to be in. Thanks for being alive brother!😊

  • @HOLLASOUNDS
    @HOLLASOUNDS Рік тому

    11:30 That's what I do with every bit of music I have ever made, I just go with it, the brain already knows what will work with what and will start play ideas in My mind. It's as easy as catching a ball you dont think, you dont even need to look at it, the brain knows where it is and how to catch it just let your hand do it, and you will, catch the ball.

  • @apeirogonmusic
    @apeirogonmusic Рік тому

    Way of Vocalizing my inner Conundrum
    Thank You

  • @MyNameFishy_Channel
    @MyNameFishy_Channel Рік тому

    I have a song to release this Friday, and I am given 1 week to work on it. Every other day I tried and tried but nothing worked. I needed this video.

  • @whitex4652
    @whitex4652 Рік тому +1

    66 years old here. I found that the most creative force is arrogance. Simple arrogance. If Hendrix can play guitar, I can do it to. If the Beatles come up with electronic collages, for sure I can do it. I can do all the stuff that other people do too. Beethoven, Bach, Mozart are geniuses. And so am I. I have to learn something to do such works? OK, I learn. Not really Voodoo. questions are unimportant. To ask "How hard can it be?" is senseless, important is the answer: "Can't be that hard, others did it. So can I."
    So, arrogance is the way to start. A realistic arrogance that is willing to overcome the hurdles you meet in the process. Simple. :-)

  • @bassmelody2868
    @bassmelody2868 Рік тому

    Wow, how relevant it is, I have ideas in my head every second!!!!and not which ideas have long turned into real songs, but money is needed ......oh, how many ideas.I love music!!Personally, I have a lot of ideas..

  • @LK-zd2mc
    @LK-zd2mc Рік тому

    Your analogy of failure really perked me up, thank you. 😁

  • @thetrashpanda9085
    @thetrashpanda9085 Рік тому

    Cameron has become one of the greatest philosophers of our time and makes WAY more sense than 99% of "gurus" on youtube.

  • @Aisjam
    @Aisjam Рік тому +1

    Bringing project management to the creative process :). Did a write up a while ago about trying to use agile methodology to music production.

  • @stinnaplaysmusic
    @stinnaplaysmusic Рік тому

    I am learning more and more every video. For example, now I know what type of creative idea to follow around until it's a comprehendible concept to listen to/talk about with fellow creatives. I try to not have any (what we would call) 'bad' concepts, so that everything that is on my hard drives, is something that could prove itself useful. Such a relief for some reason

  • @Proxima04
    @Proxima04 Рік тому

    I’m ruthless, I make 5 sketches, 2 or 3 if lucky turn into projects , 1 or 2 then get finished. Eventually I do some house cleaning and create some hard drive space. I find, if my head and ears keep yearning for the finished track, then I know I have something worth while.

  • @djPositive
    @djPositive Рік тому

    Great video. About this flexibility, i found that personally what works for me is making things plan more but as lenght of time, not moment of it. Like for example 30minutes to hour of cutting samples, one hour of gym, removing samples for 15 minutes etc. So you exactly have things to do but you dont miss never point to start it. And if you put limit on it, you will avoid always cleaning hard drive and making perfect sample collections, thing just doesnt have end.
    And about abandoning idea, i always try to select best from already was done, and save it to use it later. This can be cool preset, drum loop you made it, one riff etc. That way its never failure.

  • @crosstalkclub
    @crosstalkclub Рік тому

    I just posted a short about this very topic. Thanks for yet another brilliant, eloquent examination of the creative process.

  • @MrzodiacBE
    @MrzodiacBE Рік тому

    Spot on! the lack of discipline is prolly the main reason. very informative vid. Cheers

  • @djcertaindaze
    @djcertaindaze Рік тому

    Your videos are fucking great. Always hit the spot. Now, it's time to go home, goodbye.

  • @cjtdarksoundscapes7994
    @cjtdarksoundscapes7994 Рік тому

    Another important factor is motivation. The common idea is you must have it before you start. But in truth repeatedly doing something in your life that has purpose for builds the motivation through habit. I really like all the creative type references in this topic after learning about it from clinical sense through the VA. Love your videos dude.

  • @grayshadowglade
    @grayshadowglade Рік тому

    There is a concept in software development that applies nicely to many creative endeavors called 'fail faster'. It's actually fairly recent development in the industry but it has yielded substantial progress. TL,DR: it is better to try, fail, learn, and try again than to design, plan, and redesign in the endless cycles of design paralysis. Better to fail fast at a something small than it is to fail slowly with something much bigger. Additionally even if you don't reach your original objective, you still create and learn from every small thing you do. Eventually you develop a system with momentum and it is far easier to both let go of things that don't work while also experimenting and trying new things along the way. It still isn't easy, it just makes the process more manageable and can help mitigate that horribly overwhelmed feeling you can get with a larger project.

  • @Bthelick
    @Bthelick Рік тому

    "give up the right way" - yes agreed. I give up by releasing. every week.
    All unfinished Ideas are a result of fear. When you get round to understanding that you are not the best judge of your own art, you can get into the habit of releasing regardless of what state it's in. Sure most of it will fail in some aspect, but failure doesn't kill your career anymore, you have infinite tries in the digital world. might as well release what you have than let it sit on a hard drive because you can not control who might accidentally love it.
    Give up by just finishing what you have and releasing it. You can always release the sequel later.

  • @sacredoath3167
    @sacredoath3167 Рік тому

    This is one of the best videos you have ever made. I just hope you know that you're very inspirational

  • @slaughtersongs
    @slaughtersongs Рік тому

    What helps us is having a timebox for all the content we work on. For example, 10 hours for first version of a song. 2 hours for thumbnails, etc. Lowers the quality for sure, but we don't get stuck. We release everything we work on. It's how we work in our day job (It's Agile), so makes sense to apply it to the side hustle.

  • @speckslove
    @speckslove Рік тому +1

    Venus ! I'm new here, but thank you for these honest and relatable videos.
    As someone diagnosed ADHD and Depression, i feel like these are things i tell myself everyday. In a strange way we learn to coach ourselves around these blockages, and the constant existential thoughts that cause these roadblocks. But sometimes it's easier said than done, and for me at-least, it's hard to practice what you preach.
    Its great peace of mind knowing that although we all try to portray a perfect, almost role model image, rather in fact we deal with the same problems collectively.
    As musicians struggling.
    I mean... Struggling with our mental creative super power that is.
    hahaha and that punchline about your wife saying stop looking at analytics and shower hit different.

  • @PanDownTiltLeft
    @PanDownTiltLeft Рік тому

    Late to the party I am. Really enjoy your videos. Some days I walk into my studio and I pick up the Tele and there is just nothing there. Stuff that I was able to play the day before with feel and deft alacrity becomes out of reach - On those days, I put the instrument down and walk away. I have learned not to fight that outcome. Just give it a day. As to compositional failure, I find that I usually learn more from failure than success. Although there are many times I delete it as soon as I have laid it down. Other times I just save it and archive it. Then I come back to it later and ask myself "why does this not work?". Sometimes when I have a different state of mind I come to understand the cause of the failure and learn from it. Other times I have no idea why it fails and then I delete it.

  • @eegoal
    @eegoal Рік тому +1

    3:43 Nah I've been told that so many times that I'm starting to get used to it

  • @frankwas586
    @frankwas586 5 місяців тому

    Thanks for creating all this great content. 🙏🏼

  • @kattern3777
    @kattern3777 Рік тому

    Hii, you say smart things, i respect your knowledge and i love your sense of humor. i make music for fun, although sometimes it's hard, you know, i would like better, more, and most of all, for someone to appreciate it, although i have a lot of doubts if it's something worth appreciating. Thank you, it's much easier thanks to you. Good luck!

  • @ThisIsDeth
    @ThisIsDeth Рік тому

    You are like my personal Yoda dropping life lessons. Thank you sansei

  • @fedthalos2915
    @fedthalos2915 Рік тому

    once many years ago, i had a really good techer and he said: The most important question in your life is "why". That alone has given but also taken many hurdles i had, still have. My why to my music is mental health, it keeps me from going under, however i find that my next why is confidence. I want to put music out to build confidence but also give the listeners a different musical experience. Ofc my music isnt proffessional nor is it the typical "good" like the weekend or taylor swift, but why should that stop me there. Ive come too far to just throw it all away. On another note, i dont think it is the discipline we need to worry about, in my eyes discipline is like a symptom. its more about structure. if you dont know yourself, how do you figure out your structure or flexibility or anything at all?

  • @naispuma21
    @naispuma21 Рік тому

    Really enjoy your videos on the creative process! Your down-to-earth approach paired with high production quality in your videos is a breath of fresh air as far as YT content goes. Keep up the great work!

  • @tidy5156
    @tidy5156 Рік тому

    "Failure is just a worse way to look at experimenting" i like that

  • @chrisridenhour
    @chrisridenhour Рік тому

    Much of the best music I ever wrote was when I was totally unmotivated and usually exhausted from a long days work in the studio. The reason? A deadline.

  • @n30gn0sis9
    @n30gn0sis9 Рік тому

    Yoooooo I feel so seen and acknowledged.... But also feel like I've been "read for filth".
    Based
    I'll get to that music project later ....

  • @brainbox9219
    @brainbox9219 Рік тому +2

    Thanks for the videos, I haven’t given up on my goals at all, the videos keep me inspired, I’ve already finished a song for my planned first release, Im aiming for something mid year and end year, one song might not seem like much but for me it’s a lot, got others I’m working on as well and this journey learning music production and making songs has been a challenge so far so I’m not looking to give up at all, your videos help, so keep it up 👍🏾🙏🏾🤟🏾

  • @2012TwinFlame
    @2012TwinFlame Рік тому

    Well said. Of all the creators for music i follow your in the top 3. So much real talk. Thats the stuff holding us all back. I think sharing like this helps to know none of us are alone in these challenges. I have been on and off dj producing for about 2 dacades. Dont know what spark round this is anymore but im in for the ride. Cant agree more my bigest hurdles are self doubt and disaplin.

    • @2012TwinFlame
      @2012TwinFlame Рік тому

      Ps unfortunately im not like some peoppe who want to use all premade and not atleast try to put the work in and draw from withen.

  • @mattkaz9604
    @mattkaz9604 Рік тому

    Good stuff. There's a heap of music production videos on youtube but yours differentiate themselves by being this thoughtful.

    • @VenusTheory
      @VenusTheory  Рік тому +1

      Ayyyyyy thank you. That's exactly what I want to hear.

  • @General_ILLZ
    @General_ILLZ Рік тому

    Thank you for all that you do. Regardless of what comes of your current ventures, I hope you keep producing great content like this.

  • @princemaxwhoobayangbon1516
    @princemaxwhoobayangbon1516 Рік тому

    Man! It seems me listening to sage than a Musical artist!! Thanks, bro: if these words are educative to me, I wonder how much good they will be for the younger generation!!!

  • @0000song0000
    @0000song0000 Рік тому

    I just wnna say I feel I was way more productive when recording everything on Audacity (guitar bass, drumming, singing) than nowadays that i try to stick to the Grid, loopers, sound libraries, etc... 😮 I just enjoyed it more.

  • @sakonull
    @sakonull Рік тому

    my favorite thing about your videos is that they don't just pertain to music

  • @davidmiles329
    @davidmiles329 Рік тому

    sending love to u Cameron! thx for a video

  • @PeranMe
    @PeranMe Рік тому

    Valuable stuff, much appreciated! ❤

  • @JCrashB
    @JCrashB Рік тому

    "Inspiration is a great start, but discipline is what finishes things." -The big moustache
    I lack both so maybe therein lays the problem...🤔

  • @wideyxyz2271
    @wideyxyz2271 Рік тому

    Sage words and advice.

  • @ThomasLoyd
    @ThomasLoyd Рік тому

    Watching these videos kinda reminds me of Eeyore. I have to play them at 2x because any slower and you're monotoneity would ear-rape my interest meter. Good topic content and thanks for sharing.

  • @jaywaverly1
    @jaywaverly1 Рік тому

    Best advice I've ever heard

  • @aerofoilmusic
    @aerofoilmusic Рік тому +1

    Great video! And in my humble opinion, your “There might be some other not so obvious layers to this piss onion that tend to cause you to stop the goblin”-line belongs in the ranks of lines like “But we can't turn back, fear is their greatest defense, I doubt if the actual security there is any greater than it was on Aquilae or Sullust and what there is is most likely directed towards a large-scale assault!”
    Well done! 😄

  • @orpheuscreativeco9236
    @orpheuscreativeco9236 Рік тому +1

    Me and the goblin are great friends. Unfortunately, I enjoy spending time exploring something more than I do finishing it. Does anyone want to form a super-duo? Hahahaha 🤣
    Great video ✌️

  • @ardiris2715
    @ardiris2715 Рік тому

    Is it art? Is it craft? Is it performasnce?
    Craft is churning out content under contract. Performance is a one-off instance that works or doesn't. Art is everything else.
    YMMV
    (:

  • @amazeus1980
    @amazeus1980 Рік тому

    Btw that videos is worth sharing on my Facebook groups! That I’m administrating… ❤

  • @VIRALBEATS360
    @VIRALBEATS360 Рік тому +1

    Good video. I love how you bring it in, after the dirty talk. The Horror Box came out great! Keep up the good work!

  • @clementinelives
    @clementinelives Рік тому +1

    The goat back with another video

    • @VenusTheory
      @VenusTheory  Рік тому +2

      Suppose I am getting a bit mountain goat-y. About due for a shave 😅

  • @joetypes
    @joetypes Рік тому

    Yeah, man, your Videos have been exzellent so far.

  • @absurdbird3556
    @absurdbird3556 Рік тому

    I've never deleted a track, even when I've 'quit' writing it. I always bounce all tracks to separate files before zipping it away, (for compatibility's sake, DAW to DAW). That means I have a library of 15 years of custom samples/seeds that when I come back to a week, month, year later, I hear with new ears and can make something new out of it.

  • @richardridings7511
    @richardridings7511 Рік тому

    Absolutely brilliant, again, Cameron. Thank you so much . Exquisitally written.

  • @vvbazilvv362
    @vvbazilvv362 Рік тому

    Thanks again for sharing. ❤

  • @unduloid
    @unduloid Рік тому

    That's all right. I never have any good ideas anyway.

  • @michaelleue7594
    @michaelleue7594 Рік тому

    There's a whole bunch of points in this video that are pretty tough to unpack. What do you do if you can't find a why? People with clinical depression suffer this problem as a matter of physiology, but anyone can have this problem, especially when it comes to artistic pursuits, which are never more than a luxury at the best of times. How do you learn the difference between failure and success when you don't have anyone willing or qualified to give feedback in the first place? That's a key problem for almost all beginners, but even in general I think the biggest thing that induces a lack of creative discipline in people is a simple inability to find out what constitutes a failure vs a success. Similarly, how do you know if a project is finished if you have no way of knowing that what's been done is all that's truly necessary? That's an idealized definition of being finished, but is it actually helpful? Just as many people will look at an option to attempt to improve on their work and will hesitate even when it's necessary, as people who will look at the same option and push forward even when it isn't necessary. Without actually explaining a meaningful difference between those decisions, we're all just left making 50/50 guesses. Telling people to stop early (potentially) isn't going to make people's art any better, it's just going to reduce the total amount of success people see by putting in extra effort rather than not enough.
    I realize these are all ideas that are aimed at yourself, so you see the answer to these issues in a particular way, but the answers that work for you aren't answers that are going to work for everyone, or even most people.

  • @icons2324
    @icons2324 Рік тому

    Love this. Thank you!

  • @beyondalldreams
    @beyondalldreams Рік тому

    I like the quality of the video