Is It Time To Give Up On Your Music Career? - RecordingRevolution.com
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How many years have you been at this music thing?
Have you made it a career yet? If not, how long will you keep pursuing it?
When should you give up? SHOULD you even give up?
Today I want to unpack two ideas that I think will be helpful to you if you've been trying to make a living in music and haven't quite reached your goals.
Remember, the only thing sadder than an unsuccessful musician is a musician that gives up because they're unsuccessful.
Big facts
Yea but it becomes a problem when you're getting close to 30 and labels have a problem with artists in their early 30's
@@Masonsheafe_ because you love to do it 🤔
Holy shit this is amazing
I just hate my own music and idk why
I work as a french teacher and i love my job . When I’m home I hit to my home studio and start working on my songs. I’ll never stop doing what I love to do. God bless you all. Peace ✌🏻
That's awesome! My mom is a French teacher as well.
recordingrevolution I’m glad to hear that :)
Do you have the responsibility of a family yet?
Lauro Silvestre Jr. Im married but I don’t have kids yet.
so true i record weekly at my friends place ,, its been 10 yrs and still recording and making music at #Rockstargimmedat studios. music forever. one love yall.
i realized that i was a 40 year old guy trying to make music because that's finally accessible to "normal people" via technology. I was really loving what i was doing, it was creative, spontaneous, and this is needed in the world today. It was a hard pill to swallow that nobody really wanted to listen to what i made, and eventually that I would never make money, let alone a career, out of it. I still make music but i do it just for the sounds, i dont do it for recognition or validation, or even for anyone else to hear...my music started getting better once i stopped trying to "make it good" for appeal to another person. I almost derailed my career because i loved making music so much. It was a tough lesson to learn that production had to be put in its proper place in my life. If you are trying to be a music professional full stop then I wish you only success! I gave up on my music "career" and have felt sad since. Its not because i cant make music, its because i cant make a career out of it... i can still make music, and i feel a bit more free when doing so now that ive accepted that harsh truth.
Flood. You know what? If you believe that u cant make a living from your music, well then that is will manifest. Why not try thinking about the reasons WHY YOU CAN EARN a living. The more you work on it the more it will evolve and get better and I don't think it's true that nobody wanted to hear your music I think what really happens is people they just get kind of lazy and I myself have been guilty of that like somebody says will you check out my music will you listen to my band and I think about it and I'm sometimes I do and sometimes I don't and it's not just have anything to do with the musician it's really just my mood I'm making myself sound terrible but I really just want to be honest when I have listened and I've been so happy that I have given a certain artist or a certain band a chance because had I been in a mood of not listening I would not be enjoying their music so you might want to just be a little more persistent you know persistent really is the key in the entertainment business I believe that most of the people who made it are the ones that just did not give up and they believed in themselves people do need to be encouraged to think for themselves there are many excellent artists I'm sure that end up getting pushed to the side marginalized locked out censored you name it because they're not going along with the quote unquote agenda like the media and the powers-that-be they are going to be distractions they will assist in keeping people in an oblivious State they do not want people who are charismatic and influencing who have an intelligent message in their music or who have intelligent perspective to share when they have access to their own crowds yes the music industry needs you and needs more honesty and more equality and just because you get told no a few times doesnt mean that it would be the opinion of the rest of the w o rld. No matter what just keep rocki
When I was younger I cared too much about what others thought of my music. It's when I 1) wrote music I MYSELF wanted to hear and 2) not try and copy some other bands sound is when I started to actually make good music.
Flood you only have 1 life. Do what you Love please !!! And don’t give up !!!!!!!
Flood I'm like you. A guy in my 40's who has always wanted to make music and only recently with the technological advances can I do so now. I once had high hopes to, well, not so much make it huge but just enough to make some money. Doesn't look like that will happen but I love making and producing and I keep doing it and keep tweaking mixes and have gotten them to sound better over the years. I still post them to my soundcloud and that's that.
Gentoo what's your SoundCloud?
This came right on time! Thank you! I write music, Produce music, I'm an artist myself, and I love to mix. I just love doing music. But people that I've been "working with" are not showing any sign of interest anymore and it was just killing the motivation I had. I feel like I was doing a lot of stuff for nothing, but after this... I feel completely different. I've learned a lot from you. I truly appreciate it.
Brother this ain't a preach, but i want u to listen to me. I am personally in the same situation rn. I am a songwriter and recording artist, but to put together a music project needs a team (a producer, mixing/recording/mastering engineer etc etc), but the question is HOW MUCH YOU WANT IT? A year ago, all i was doing is writing lyrics, and i couldn't find anyone to help me put together a song. No one around me was or still motivated to dedicate their time and energy with me to put together our best work, and i didn't know shit bout professional mixing, engineering etc, BUT i want this so bad. I want to make it so bad that i said to myself FUCK IT! I can't find people on same page as me. Fuck yall, i'll do it myself. I've spend the last year learning everything from making beats and producing to recording and mixing. Watched lot of tutorials and spent 1000s of hours self - learning and trying new things out.
Now i am at a position that i can do everything from making beats to writing lyrics to recording to mixing to mastering, ALL BY MYSELF. Already recorded couple of songs, and wanna release my first EP before this summer break. AM 20 so i am glad i started relatively early, but my point is -
FUCK nonsense man. IF no one around is willing to help you or be as passionate as you for what you doing. Fuck em. DO it yourself.
Random Clips you know what, that's what I've decided!! I'm going to be putting out an EP in the summer. I figured lol invest my time in myself. I appreciate the word. Aye tag me when you release your EP. Keep it up! We need more like minds working together, nobody wants to put in the grind to get to the shine you feel Me! So hey... putting my time into me ya dig!
OK, We are an older band.. My bass player is soon to be 69 (And he still bounces off the wall). My lead player is 65 and goes under the knife today for bypass surgery. Three of us have diabetes. My point?? HEY, we still love music. And truth be told, we can rock with the best 20 year olds. .. (OK, as the drummer, my wrists can no longer move like they used to) Just saying, our average age is about 57. And we are just now hitting our stride.. I mean for God's sakes, at least we can afford the equipment now. Just saying, I do not believe their is an age limit on music. We are Lost Frequency.
Tight name.
Lost Freq you inspire me
For God's sake indeed.
Thank you.
So thank you from the bottom of my heart for this video. NEEDED this gentle slap up the head , you said it perfectly!
Been super passionate about singing / songwriting professionally for around 10 years , have a publishing deal and made some small successes with nothing lasting and those things didn’t mean anything close to what i thought they would!
Have been reinventing myself lately and going the online entrepreneur route and it is intense because you have have have to master your mind and balance! remembering it isn’t black or white is vital , falling into this perfectionist routine where it has to be full time or no time mentality is way too easy to do. Hearing your story is so inspiring and grounding 💸
I love you dude. It’s my birthday tonight and honestly been tempted to just throw in the towel. Cool to see you still making music something that’s apart of your life.
I've been thinking about it. I was about to start. I also attended the webinar. Thank you so much for putting so much effort for us.
I was literally thinking about this today! Thank you so much for this video, it gave me such a great new perspective on the music industry and what I can do!
Glad to hear it!
Love this. About 10 years ago, I came home from a church mission and threw myself completely into music. Things didn't work out as fast as I wanted, but as a result, my background in music, performance, and acting collided into me discovering voiceover. That career path blossomed into an amazing career that I am so grateful for. It has allowed me to build my dream studio, work on music all day in-between sessions with clients, and has also introduced me to amazing industry contacts that have really helped me to grow. When I was younger, I remember playing live at places and really connecting with people. This was an amazing feeling. The past couple of years, I've really missed having that interaction with people in "my space," aka, "the stage." In order to give myself an outlet for my songs, I've committed to releasing one youtube video a week on my channel. It has been an amazing experience so far. Very therapeutic, and also exciting to watch my audience start to grow! I just hit 1,000 subs, and it blows me away! There are people out there connecting with my music again, and it feels AMAZING. I really believe in what you're saying here, and I know that even though it's only "once a week" right now, I feel like I'm building towards an exciting career in a very measurable and visible way.
bring the positivity Graham! Industry needs positivity, creativity and people with sound mental health....Thanks Graham!!
Thank you so much Graham! I'm now having a day-job and I'm doing my best doing music as well. It's not easy. I feel my days completely full but it's satisfying.
It's amazing how wanting things and dreaming big fast may be such a big brick wall when chasing a dream. Thank you for your advise. It helped a lot.
God Bless!
Great video Graham!! Insightful and inspirational. Always comes with a positive vibe. Thank you.
Thank you Graham. You are definitely a blessing for us !
I really needed to hear this today. That all or nothing approach is something I'm currently working on.
Graham... THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!! This was exactly what I need to hear right now. Stop worrying about being "full time", and keep working with what I have now. Stay positive and keep going.
Thank you so much. I can't even tell you how much this video was needed by me today. It was a dark and sad day and you helped me smile, wipe away the tears and vow to get up tomorrow and try my best to live my dream. You did that. Thank you.
I've definitely taken a break. Music creation is something I love. Pushing through the noise of my own mind and constantly selling myself as a product is the more taxing part of this journey. Im working on finding a proper balance.
Never give up!! Keep writing and singing, and playing, until God stops waking us up. It’s such an awesome gift, so many ppl wish they had, I love music. I’ve found ppl that are not musicians don’t understand how it all works, but they love to listen to music.
Ernest Enoch well said. you're so right...
Beautifully put
Which god?
No...that’s garbage. I say that with love. It’s you...only you. I’ve done it.
You waiting in a chariot. The God argument is a no. It’s US who force change in life. Pray all day will FORCE that thought in your brain then WE CHOOSE to do something. Getting hit with random lighting bolt? No. It’s you. It’s easier to think it’s a God...please do so. I don’t care about my point or being held up by anyone. Who cares. Has nothing to do with what we are doing.
Graham is an inspiring person. He is missing it though. We KILL our passion....why? No end goal? Still not it.
yes yes! yes! :)
Long time fan. You have always been a great help. This is a great topic. Go graham 🙌🙏💪🎶🔊
So very true, Graham. Thanks for the much needed and well-timed shot of encouragement.
Thank you for this message, I needed to hear this. I was literally just thinking about finally putting music making to bed. I've been making music in a band for many years, always had that dream of "taking it to the next level", but couldn't make it happen. Now I have a desk job, a family, and 2 kids, and I can't help but feel that time is running out on me. But I guess I just need a different mindset.. a different angle... Now that I am re-thinking all this, it is just foolish to stop now as music is a part of me and will, no doubt, always be..
jazRock13. Yeah dont give up! Youve come too far to quit now.
💣💣💣
Hey Graham, I just wanted to say thank you. As a young person who wants to make it into the industry, I always make the mistake of thinking I know it all. But you're one of the major people who always manages to really teach me something and humble my entire outlook on music and my future., I have learned so much from you from technical recording practices, to big concepts like this. Thanks so much for sharing all this great information, I'll make sure to shout you out if I ever get famous. Much love!
Graham, I'd like to express my gratitude for this video and the work that you do. I really needed to hear everything you talked about. I have been limiting and beating myself up with the all or nothing paradigm for too long. Seriously thank you
Graham I love how you did this video. I've been watching your videos for a few weeks now and I'm currently in the process of recording my band via our home studio. Your videos have proven to be priceless fountains of valuable information and input. Especially today, I really needed this today. Thank you and God bless
This hits way too close to home. You absolutely nailed my mentality, which I wasn't even conscious of. It's amazing what a profound difference it makes having someone point out something so incredibly simple and obvious. I won't change overnight, but I can assure you my outlook will. Thanks for this video.
thanks man, u saved my future at the right time
i was worried about the title man but honestly grahm thank you for the encouragement and making me feel like yuou are truly talking to only me wiht your message here today. thank you seriously
17 years in and recently I've finally thought of giving up. Everything you said is true. I just thought by now I would be doing it 💯 by now. I do everything and do believe I'm skilled in most areas. This video gives me motivation to keep going but always re-evaluate. But I can never quit - I'm a pure creative. I'm just trying to find the right people. Thank you Graham, as always!
You not only give good information in your videos, but also much needed perspective on any topic you cover. My new favorite channel.
Thanks!
sucha fan boy bvut i know you hear this alot but im probably one of your biggest fans..dude ive literally watched every single video you have and not jsut that but wacthedevery vidfeo multiple times...i just wana say i thank you for what you are doing and what yoube done it is appreciated more then you know and it affects me and others in positive ways...god bless seriously god is good and he took you on this path to help people and you have neevr looked back
Once again a prophetic message Graham. You have a gift and thanks for investing it. You bless us all. Remember brothers and sisters- Let the Lord prune and adjust our vision so we can continue to walk in His blessing. Sometimes what we think is a disappointment is the Lord adjusting us! Don’t be discouraged and keep your eyes on the Prize!
Haha, it was right on time for u too, huh..? 🔥🙏🏾🔥
Graham, thank you so much for this video. It's exactly what I needed to hear right now.
Hi Graham, you always give great tips. Keep up the good work. Many thanks for your time and effort to share with everyone.
I don’t get how someone could dislike this.
Romeo Rivera
People who want to hate their life, and hate other people's lives. It's kinda funny, but also kinda sad.
Because he is telling people what they already know but don't want to hear and admit. Do a little thinking, and everything he said is a thought we've all had. He's just a successful person telling you what you already know in the back of your mind and that hurts people because they want another way out besides what is most obvious.
FAULT LINE
Sometimes people need to be reminded of things they already know. If you don't want to watch it, then don't. There isn't anything to dislike though, about someone encouraging others to do what they love, and giving them practical information on how to do it. Whether or not they already know what he is talking about, doesn't add or take away from it.
Because for some looking at alternative means of success no matter how small IS giving up. I used to think that way when I was in my early 20s. I realized a while ago that line of thinking is just asking and looking for failure because you'll never be happy with what you achieve.
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I respectfully disagree. I think that over time, your goals can change, and you changing what you want to do is not the same as giving up. I would agree that if you wanted to make your own music and then you start mixing for other bands and think, "Well I guess this is all I can do. At least I'm in the music industry." Then yes, that is giving up. But if you have one goal in mind and then overtime your goals change, that is not at all giving up.
We are constantly changing as people. When I was young I wanted to be a vet. Now I don't like pets at all, and am super allergic, and would never have a pet. That's not because I gave up on my dream of becoming a vet. It's because I changed as a person, and therefor my goals changed.
Thanks for this video man!
I feel like this video came at just the right time. Cheers!
My wife and I write and lead worship around the US and I produce music for other artists at our farm in TN. My day job for 12 years has been photography (which I’m thankful for). In the last 2 years since building the studio I’ve been transitioning more to producing and recording. Just wanted to say thanks for what you do! I’ve leaned on some of these videos when navigating mix issues etc... Much love -Chris
I really needed this right now. Thanks Graham
Great video!! I needed this! Very powerful and motivating bro!!
Best UA-cam video I’ve streamed so far in 2020! Super-relevant and relatable! Thanks for the encouragement, man!
Being happy with the one day a week relates to realistic expectations for the outcome and being proud of the work you have done, and are working on today.
This is exactly what I need to push myself on my songs and recording. And making UA-cam videos, thank you so much. I love your videos. Great work
Whoa... your running example and how two different people see a situation was absolutely spot on. And I need to remember this because it’s going to help me in A LOT of other areas of my life. Thank you!
Thank you for this video! I am researching the music industry for a book I am writing, and this has been so helpful. I think your advice applies to many of the arts, including writing. I look forward to running through all of your videos!
Hey Graham, thank you so much for this video. I also wanted to be a "rock star" like you and failed. Up to this day, I always called myself a "failed musician" and completely walked away from the music making process all together. I felt like this video spoke to me and encouraged me to "run only one day a week."
Though it was not your dream, you've been doing something hugely meaningful. You're blessed, man!
Well Said! The music business is rarely consistent. Being creative, adaptive, not giving up, and giving it the time you can spare is key.
This is such great advice and I needed to hear it today.
Thank you!
Wow, this is so powerful and was well needed. I've shut down my home studio for the past 3 yrs. I love doing music. It's my passion. I needed this and thanks for this video. Another pullback for me is that where I'm at I'll have to take down my equipment every time. I have to get back to doing what I love. Thanks again.
Ive asked myself this question so many times over the 14+ years. Just come back to music recently. Going to slowly build the channel. I'm guilty of being too narrow minded about music in the past. Thanks for the motivation. Great vid.
Yes! This is excellent! Thanks Graham, this answered a lot of my questions and thoughts.
Thanks so much for this video!
Thanks Graham, this came at such a good time. You are a real asset to the industry, keep up the success buddy !
This is such a great outlook. Very inspiring.
Clicked on this link out of curiosity. I totally agree with what you said Graham. There is so much room for artists to keep growing and continue to work in the industry regardless of whether it is your full time gig.
Dude, this so encouraging!! You’re awesome!!! You truly love the art.
I needed this. Thank you.
Great video! Very encouraged seeing this. I'm sure it will encourage many others.
This was so good to hear. Thanks for sharing your story Graham
I started with all your mixing courses a year and a half back and has since then followed your videos and it has been so encouraging and helpful to me. Thank you Graham for sharing your thoughts, they've influenced my life! (and now also my view on part-time employment...)
Graham, i watch your videos and love them. you are talented and a great person. thanks for sharing your knowledge, it helped me a lot!
The perfect video at the perfect time! Thanks a ton. I have a full day job and do music part time since quite a few years. Life is getting busier day by day, but I still want to continue this way of working because it just suits me personally. By doing this we can make sure we can give our time and act responsibly in all the areas of life - personal/family, professional and music. However, we have to complement how we sacrifice on some areas during certain times, as we cannot avoid sacrificing completely.
Life lessons beautifully explained. Thx Graham!
I needed this. Thankyou man.
wonderful video, hope it helps a lot of people, this is quite a tough topic to talk about and your speech is right and honest.
here are my contribution to the music industry:
- write & sing vocals for music producers as a featured artist
- produce from songwriting to mastering my own original music
- youtube channel of music entertainement
- teach vocal mixing through patreon
also i hope to add music production tutoring irl soon when my new laptop arrives 👏
i try to be proud of everything i have!
hey Fokushi! it's nice to see you here, I totally agree with your comment. this is a very inspiring video.
so true i record weekly at my friends place ,, its been 10 yrs and still recording and making music at #Rockstargimmedat studios. music forever. one love yall.
Dang. Really needed this this morning. Always great as usual graham!
This has been on my mind for a while now. I've been pursuing this dream for about 10 years and it is hard, I've been working as a freelancer, copyist, FX and sound design and composing. After a lot of time I came to the idea that I need a steady income that allow me to compose without the stress of making rent every month.
Thanks, Graham, your message made me believe I'm not making a mistake having a full time job and composing on weekends or whenever I get the chance, someday I will be able to just compose full time.
I still watch this video every now and then. I agree 100% with the advice in this video. I work a full time job and I admit it was not the career I originally wanted to pursue, but I am thankful and that I have an income and can finance the music I work on part time. I'm a music producer for bands in Detroit and a singer-songwriter myself. This is the best time to create music for sure. It's affordable and you can collaborate with virtually anyone. Thanks for sharing this video.
Yes! We often have a narrow view of which career paths we should take. Thinking it's perfect for us, but there's always better things out there to be discovered
Can't Thank You Enough for these golden tips !! You are always great at giving life advice .
Thank you for this!! good points and excellent parallels to draw a point!! thanks for the guide!!
Thanks Graham this is a great video. Been working with music for about 38 years and I I'm still on it. Music has been a part time income for me booth as an artist and in many other ways. It has not made me rich but i am still keeping my dream alive and I still love music.
Thank you Graham for this video. I needed this. I face lot of doubts about my career in music industry as an artist and an audio engineer. Thank you so much for encouraging me and lot of other people who face the same problem as me. God bless you and your work.
Thank you :) I have been an Engineer since 20 years, and a Mastering Engineer since 15 years. Sometimes I do feel low. Your video has inspired me to keep pushing myself and change with time :)
I appreciate the time and energy you give to your forum, with encouragement from you also. Thank you and best wishes from NZ. 🙂💫🙂. 👍👍👍
Amen! Thanks for confirming what I was feeling about the industry and my music.
Thank you so much for this video.
thanks for the encouragement!
I absolutely love this. This hits home in so many ways.
Needed this one brother. I put down the guitar, microphone, keyboard, protools all of it about three years ago. Definitely motivation to start enjoying creating again with some different outlets in mind. Appreciate you.
The WORDS I so needed to hear!!! Thank you for this new perspective. LOVED it.
thanks for your videos bro!
Thanks Graham I really needed to hear what your saying in this Video. I've been doing this for around 10 years , and feel as though I'am getting noware
Thanks again.
Thanks. Your words on on point.
thank you for this video graham! in actual days I cant run my own project but i am really making my studio work! I remember some months ago your advices email it was great. THANK YOU!
Maybe ive been moving in Reggae circles for too long, but in this crazy mixed up modern world if you work on some music and it brings a smile to someones face or makes them feel good your already an outstanding success!
Excellent video! I've been in the industry for many years and have given up many times. Now however, I play in a band, I'm a music director for a theater group, I teach music k-8 in the public schools, I run lighting, I record, I produce videos, I do live sound and all of these streams together provide a decent living. Plus I am able to make time to work on "my stuff!" I have learned and grown in many ways while still being a part of the industry, and while empowering others to do the same. I'm no SUPERSTAR, but I am at the top of my own "little world"!😎
Your a "Good Dude". Definitely, someone I would have in my very small circle of Good Friends. So honest and passionate about helping people succeed in the Music Occupation. God Bless
Great video... It speaks to me!!!! 😊 Thanks
Thank you! Kind of opened my eyes, let‘s see where the next years lead us.
Thanks so much for making this video! You are keeping it real and inspirational all at once. I have been hesitating going full force into music for so long. I was an either or person, and decided to become a psychologist. Doing just that felt so empty though. I need to do music to feel fulfilled in life, even if its not full time gig.
Gotta say, you're a great inspiration... Honestly not into your style of music, but your passion is infectious!
Hey Graham
Thanks a lot for this video. It is very encouraging for a singer-songwriter who still needs to work elsewhere part-time. You tell it as it is!
always motivation or some
good idea man! thank you for your great videos!
Hey Graham, great video. Like you I wanted to be a rockstar when I was 10. I did music in high school and then went out to work a labouring job. I still did music in bands for about 10 years. Then a serious motorcycle accident that nearly took my life and an Ankylosing Spondylitis diagnosis. I went back to music and I am now pursuing my own business as an Acoustic Soloist on guitar. I say you’re never too old as I’m now in my 40’s.
I was really down today, got this video in a notification and its totally turned my mood around - bless you Graham, bless you! :o)
Glad it helped! That's my goal!
Great video, Graham! I am one of those musicians who plays in a cover band, but focuses ferociously on my own music also. The cover band has at times paid my rent for months in a row. Truth is, if music is in your blood you'll never leave the music biz whether you're full time or not.
Right on! Tha's exactly what I needed to hear. Thank you, Graham!
Your a beautiful soul..I just started watching your videos..Thanks for helping humanity.