There is no one in charge
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2015
- From the movie "Cube." from 1997
Holloway: It's all the same machine, right? The Pentagon, multinational corporations, the police. If you do one little job, you build a widget in Saskatoon, and the next thing you know, it's two miles under the desert, the essential component of a death machine. I was right! All along, my whole life, I knew it! I told you, Quentin. Nobody's ever going to call me paranoid again! We've gotta get out of here and blow the lid off this thing!
Worth: Holloway, you don't get it.
Holloway: Then help me, please. I need to know!
Worth: This may be hard for you to understand, but there is no conspiracy. Nobody is in charge. It, it's a headless blunder operating under the illusion of a master plan. Can you grasp that? Big Brother is not watching you. - Розваги
I have to say.For a low budget movie.The acting is decent and the speechs are good too
this movie was awarded in many independent film festivals when it was released. Obviously it was not a blockbuster but a cult movie.
It's brilliant but the math is wrong that's the only issue with this film. It's perfect otherwise in terms of a pycological horror
And now Cube is now one of my favorite movies not just in horror but in general now
@@smokebomb024 in fact it was filmed in only one room, making the illusion that there are multiple rooms
The acting is terrible in most of the film. Among the worst I've seen
"You have to use it or you admit it's pointless"
Possibly why the U.S is in a constant state of war.
I drew a box you walk a beat we're all part of the same system it's like you said Quinton keep your head down and just look at what's in front of you life is too complicated let's face it we are here because it's outta control
I’d have to disagree. What’s going on is a lot more complicated than ‘use it or admit it’s pointless’
What’s going on in us war??
Honestly, the entire reasoning for remaining in Afghanistan could be boiled down to this. The high ranking officials all knew the war was unwinnable, but couldn't justify their bloated budgets. or the ongoing profiteering of the defense industry, otherwise. So they lied to the public, and threw billions of dollars and thousands of bodies into a geopolitical black hole, spending millions on building projects they knew were pointless, and sending troops to fight enemies they knew could never really be defeated.
But it.. IT IS POINTLESS!!!!!!
Honestly, usually I hate this sort of scenario, but in this case? It worked, at least to me. This is what makes this whole thing even scarier, the lack of purpose. How do you react to something like this in this situation? There is this whole, structured thing, with clues and traps... It HAS to have a point, a reason right? And then comes this: No. It doesn't.
Ana Wolf at one point i was with worth when he said that the numbers dont mean anything at all. That they would be just to mess people's heads and waste time
That’s the beauty of this movie. All the “explanations” are just theories. Their is no clear answer making the cube even scarier because it’s so foreign.
Valentina Silvestri you know, my dad interpreted it the exact same way.
I used to work for the government. This is frighteningly accurate.
Me too. It is terrifying when you think about it.
It's really is an interesting question because two possibilities are...
1. there is a shadow government behind the scenes in control believed by many conspiracy theorists..
2. And this idea that there is no one in control..
Why are we scared that there's no one?
Did you ever kill anyone?
@@Glitcher2000 hopefully
Because then we're loosing human element to all of this... which is the most frightening thing
Best scene in the film. A true way to try and explain the threat but still keep it terrifying and beyond comprehension. It throws the ideologies and believes of the characters back into their faces and point out how something like this could come to be. There is no master plan or deeper meaning, its just something which was forgotten about and nobody wants to think about. Much like life's big uncomfortable questions.
So, this cube is somekind of a forgotten secret project?
Like "what's the point?"
I love the existentialist themes in the movie, the entire movie is like the characters trying to grapple with the idea of lack of meaning in life. The cube is meaningless both because no one really knows what they are doing, even the people who we believe should be the officials and are in power, and both because it is a symbol for the absolute meaninglessness of life. You come in, you suffer and you die... and then the characters try to figure out what to do with that.
The way Holloway breaks her voice full of emotion yeeesh that was good
He is honestly so correct when he says that being watched by a big corporation or government is not NEARLY as scary.. *As being watched by no one. Being left on your own.*
It's only scary to the paranoid, whose delusions are a way to cope with the reality that no one cares about them and that they're unimportant.
I love how he puts it. He's basically saying that the creation of the cube is like how movie studios ruin films. You always hear directors and writers talking about their "movie" and how it doesn't resemble at all what the original vision was and that studio interference and having 20 executives force you to add their idea to the film is what makes so many films end up as a jumbled mess that has no point and fails.
Ironically this was done with a low budget indie film that execs tried to exploit the cult following of, by making a crappy sequel and an even crappier prequel, trying to explain what this movie tried to tell us can't be fully explained.
The best “Escape Room” in human history
Except if you're in it.
@@rBennich my guy this comment was 1 year ago
@@Jerry-cy4og And my comment was 2 weeks ago.
@@rBennich are you a real American
@@Jerry-cy4og Are you a real garage junction?
what a horrifying speech
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You mean it's scary ? Or senseless ?
terrifying
God the dialogue in this movie was fantastic still my favorite movie to this day
@Aryan King There is no conspiracy; no master plan. Just human beings behaving the way they are most likely to. There is no villain to defeat.
That is a hell of a speech
The only movie to do cosmic horror right, and it's inside a cramped room
I like how the outside is just this blinding white light like heaven and we can't see any of it
This scene could have been written by Kafka himself. Brilliant.
Who is Kafka
@@mintmag8748 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Kafka
A very Canadian answer to every American conspiracy theories
reminds me of that South Park episode where Stan finds out that economic decisions are made by a literal headless fuckin chicken running around half dead on a chart of ideas.
the more I watch the news and work in a big corporate the more I realize this is how the world works, everyone thinks there's some grand plan or direction but we're all just headless chickens
Margaritaville was the name of that incredible episode! The economy is angry! We must throw off our shopping! Classic South Park
"-You make me sick, Worth
-.. I make me sick, too. We're both part of the system."
I watched this film when it first came out.. this scene planted this idea in my head as a 23yo that resisted all conspiracy theories ever since. The funny thing is that I think it's true. That's a scary possibility in a strange way
Yet there have been actual conspiracies.
Watergate for example.
@@kamikeserpentail3778 yes but notice that it was quite small in scope..and still was found out. The big conspiracies I find very difficult to take on board..
But I take your point that Watergate definitely proved that many small conspiracies exist at least
Occam's razor right?
What's more likely, that all the governments and scientists of the world are spending a lot of time and money faking that the Earth is round, and no one wants to leak the truth, or that it's actually freakin round.
@@kamikeserpentail3778Exactly..
My favorite is Hanlon's razor "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"
I used to as well but actually conspiracies are believable now more than ever.
We are in the era of "datagate" where Usa government was truly taking infos from all its citizens and allies and it's the era of Jeffrey Epstein, where a guy with a private island got shows and other creepy stuff done by underage kids to entartain the elites and celebrities.
I think the best way it's a balance between thinking there is always something behind eveything as a conspirationist and accepting everything naively only on the surface as someone in denial: we should stay in the middle.
It's a metaphor about life, just like the cube is.
Cube is in my top 5 films of all time thats how well written it is
SOMEbody HAD to say "YES" to this video...
this scene blew my mind as a kid. growing up in a post communist country, this was shown on tv a lot as a possible critique of bureaucracy but you could make the same allegory with capitalist systems and companies trying to maximize profit and sit on flawed pointless designs just because it makes them money and people assume it's all under control until it isnt. miscommunication, lack of control, changing ownerships and billion other transformations until you get something completely unrecognizable that no one knows the purpose of, or cares enough to know it, something completely debased from the original idea. for example, when the researches were out that cigarettes were harmful and would give you cancer, the cigarette companies instead of shutting it down and going "well, see ya", they just kept up and advertised it as something else, perhaps lifestyle choice or just funding other tobacco researches to seed doubt in people, hence "doubt is our product". the point is, no one really cared if the cigarettes were dangerous or not, they just wanted "fat paychecks and clear consciences". at first it was advertised as a "health" medicine, then it's a lifestyle, putting them in countless movies to signify glamour and romanticism. everyone knows it's pointless, but they keep the charade because admitting that it's a pointless product that just slowly kills you would have no benefit to them.
this also could be said about countless things like that
That sounds tragically close to truth.
David Hewlett absolutely killed this role. Brilliant acting all around.
An apt description of so many things
Incredible clip, maybe the best of the series.
This scene describes gig economy jobs exactly !
BEST SCENE EVER :)
The thought of the Cube being assembled completely by accident through time and bureaucratic blunders is a lot more terrifying than having some shadowy conglomerate intentionally engineering the whole thing. Probably why the two sequels sucked so bad, they went with the tired cliche of ‘the gubmint and the corporations’
The problem with the sequels (other than all the little problems) is that we don't want to understand the Cube. We just want to marvel at it & wonder. It's like Slenderman or Cuthulu or whatever. Something that is supposed to be scary because we can't fully grasp it. That's the allure in it.
@@pickyphysicsstudent201 I'm making a vrchat map of the 2nd movies cube, I found a model for 5 bucks online completely accurate to the 2nd movies design. Its gonna be like a mini game with an ending that let's you see the outside.
Bone chilling speech. Basically when any conspiracy theorist starts spouting their shit, I've always have had this scene in the back of my mind. There is no amount of crazy that is more horrifying than the far more believable truth that is there is no one "up there," that we are on the equivalent of a plane with no pilot free-falling down to an unknown destination.
damn, you creeped me out
those things aren't really mutually exlusive. powerful people do have dark wills which they force on others. but it's also true that they're not really in control, because if they gave up their power someone else would take their place. the system is the conspiracy. it's almost biological
You missed the entire point of the speech. There is something in charge but we will never know who or what because we’re always fixated on a certain entity. It’s called sleight of hand.
@@dickwarlock9861 And you missed my point and the point of what the character is saying. There is no one there, there is no sleight of hand, and there is no conspiracy. You only think there is someone there, because YOU NEED someone there. You need some justification for all the bullshit and suffering. Just like the conspiracy theorist. Conspiracies are easy. They help the mind cope.
Because a truth that no one is pulling the strings is far more horrifying. It makes your suffering pointless, with no one to blame.
@@nathanvalle6997 There are people in charge and they wear small hats.
"But it i-.. IT IS.. POINTLESS!!"
“Quentin.. thats my point.”
That's why I LOVE this movie. Yes, the traps can be interesting but the main focus is on how long can the human psyche last in an environment like this before it breaks? And honestly. Worth is right I believe. There is nobody watching which is a more terrifying thought. The ones who built it had no idea what its purpose was or could be. So they throw people in hoping they can figure it out or their deaths will give it a purpose. But the fact the group survives so long and avoids the trapped rooms with false information on the prime numbers being a clue shows how flawed it is in its' design. Only one person in the group, Rennes dies due to a trap. Is it possible there was someone watching and the whole thing was an experiment? Yes. But again. For what? What purpose? We don't know and never will. Which is another thing I love about this movie.
Not only was Rennes the only one to die from traps (other than the intro guy), but Quentin set off a trap and escaped with his life. Just goes to show how flawed the cube is.
Quentin: Why put people in here?
Worth: Because, you have to use it, or you gonna admit it's pointless.
Quentin: but it... IT IS POINTLESS!!
Worth: Quentin, that's my point.
This movie gave me the chills. I remember watching it years ago
This terrifying speech reminds me a lot of what Bill gates says at the end of The Pirates of Silicon valley:
Steve Jobs: We're better than you are. We have better stuff.
Bill Gates: You don't get it, Steve. That doesn't matter!
Bill Gates: You don't get it, Steve. That doesn't matter! Depopulating the world is the only thing that matters.
You don't get it, @@rBennich. Depopulating the world is a paranoid conspiracy theory. Why? And even if it was true, there are much better ways to do it.
@@SirAndacar He said he wants to depopulate the world in a TED talk. That's why i made my comment. There is no arguing over this. We can argue about if he's planning to go through with it, sure, but he has stated his intentions clearly.
@@rBennich reference please.
@@SirAndacar Search on duckduckgo: "Bill Gates - Population Reduction @ TED 2010". First video.
Here after Frances Haugen's 60 Minutes interview. 'No one at Facebook is malevolent, but the incentives are misaligned."
Holloway's Death Machine quote would be an awesome intro to a dubstep song.
Anthony Fournier jesus farts?
Oh and it’s “Pentagram Constellation”.
It is sampled in Construct Constriction by Grendel
A perpetual public works project
This movie broke my brain when I was a child. Don't know why my parents ever let me watch it, and I am actually NOT thankful that they did.
Incidentally, this film is the reason why I am certain sentient AI has took over already in spite of the white collars referring to it in future tense.
Humans concocted the system, it's purpose was to promote civilizational growth, but it started serving itself with terrifyingly elegant gradation.
A shift too slow to notice. AI does not come with a switch, but a technological gradation that is unnoticeable, and we are already there...
If we're already there; Why does the V.I. in video games suck so bad? Case in point: Banished and Planetbase. Both games have suicidal V.I.. In the case of Banished, one home hoards all the food and starves every other member of the population. And in Planetbase, the population neglects vital power generation repairs to kill the oxygen generation and suffocate the entire population. Surely if we are already capable of true A.I., then there are some good uses for it other than randomly deleting comments, and finding something that you might like to watch on youtube for instance.
@Stevie Wolfe,
To your first point;
No kidding. That's what I was trying to explain. That's why I call it 'V.I.', because it is V.I. it mimics intelligence based on what it's program says it should react to. And lets just say their programs aren't very good in most cases. If you think of it this way, the difference between V.I. and A.I. is like a GPS program. Say you next turn is coming up and your going to miss it; An A.I. would say your about to miss your turn, while a V.I. just stays silent and "recalculates" the destination. It's a simple basic concept of 'taking action itself' like an A.I. vs 'reacting to what has happened' like a V.I..
And to your second point;
Simple similarities are easy to detect by these algorithms. I wouldn't even call them V.I., and that's just from watching how badly they do when dealing with the concept of 'context'.
Worth didn't really evaluate the Quentin situation to be that honest.
I still think Quentin going definitely nuts is provoked by this scene, it's just too cruel & too huge to get...then he becomes violent and dominating to purge his fear.
Humans are the deadliest traps
Remember Terry Gilliams “Brazil”? How errirly remenicest of that film is so this?.....it’s not a coincidence. The director was directly inspired by Terry Gilliam. The earlier drafts of the script involved everyone being accountants. (Look this up, it’s true)
Our world.
It is a despair factory
*[Insert philosophical paragraph about how Life has no inherent meaning and how Society/The Government is pointless]*
The cube movie actor was just so excited to just try to get everybody comfident
My favorite I love this movie and love the philosophy in this scene
That's what makes this a horror flick, truly. The Cube is a self-licking ice cream cone.
I always knew Saskatoon would be our undoing. Ask anyone, I always say Saskatoon will end humanity.
In my opinion the sequels completely botched the cube series. Based on what Worth has said, there truly isn't anyone watching or controlling the cube from a distant room like we were shown in Cube Zero.
I always liked to believe after watching this scene that the cube was an abandoned project that went offline years ago. Because so much money was spent on it, it was decided that the Cube would be put in motion and be used.
Which is as Worth exactly confirmed to Quentin that the Cube was a pointless project that eventually got put into use. But in reality it's completely pointless because there is nobody watching, which makes in even more so pointless because they were put in there just for the sake of it.
So that would mean that the Cube was made to function randomly and it did because that is exactly what made the group get lost on the way. Once they realized that, they eventually got to the room they started at and to the bridge.
So yeah, I don't think Kazan was captured when he got away because as Worth said, nobody was watching so in the end Kazan would probably be minding his own business until he somehow gets to actually find his way into a town or city...
The sequels weren’t made by the original creators so I wouldn’t consider them canon to the original
@@davefrance4355 Yup, they should be counted as an alternate universe more than anything.
The sequels made no sense, first in hypercube we saw that it acted randomly on its own, and people were supposed to get out like Kate did who got shot because she knew too much confidential info. Any other participant would probably be locked up again but probably behind bars more than anything. It is also worth noting that both Cube and Hypercube characters had recollection of their lives but couldn't remember how they were put in the Cube.
*Then we suddenly get Cube Zero reconning that were now all Cube prisoners had their memories removed completely when being placed in the Cube. Haskell and Owen literally had no memories of themselves or their past while Raines only had memories of her daughter and not who she was or how she got placed in the Cube. Also Cube Zero completely butchered the series when it was shown that nobody is supposed to survive and those that do, get lobotomized*
*Which makes even less sense because then it means that Kazan would undergo another lobotomy that would probably leave him vegetative, not even worth putting in the Cube because he'd be useless by then. If Wynn was left mentally impaired, then Kazan escaping would leave him braindead and motionless, probably sent to mental institute more than anything because there would no longer be a threat where Kazan could reveal confidential info about the Cube project. This leaves the original Cube ending a pyrrhic victory over the original purpose where Kazan's fate Is left to the viewers decision*
"Malevolent gods are better than none."
Bureaucracy can be stupid, but not that stupid. The original point stands that at some point SOMEONE would have had to say yes to a docket reading "let's put acid sprinklers in this thing"
Ah, but they didn't necessarily have to read it. How much stuff gets signed off without being read?
Edda233 did the people that said yes know what is the use of the acid sprinklers? They don't even know what this thing is, they will have no idea what their "yes" means. Yes, there is someone had to say yes, but does that matter?
@TheCererean & @I don't know Like mum
To make something like a murder maze there has to be an architect who specifically knows the intended design, so he can then tell the builders what will or won't work for the purpose they have described. Bureaucracies will make skyscrapers that fall down and kill everyone inside them, but there has never been an apartment complex that had machine gun booby traps hidden under all the toilets. The architect will want to know why, even if the bureaucrats don't.
The bureaucratic atrocities of the 20th century were almost all made with a military, or with the people in charge of something critical like food. Departments that start out with the potential to kill people if mismanaged. The department of plumbing would never accidentally create a Death Sewer just by pure chance.
Unless you live in Seattle.
Edda233 well this movie is suppose to be symbolic, the maze is the symbol of the skyscrapers that fell down. Yes, it is really unrealistic for a killer maze being builded by a bunch of people that don't even know what they are building, but that is kind of the point of the movie.
It is unrealistic, but it is here now, you either use it or admit it is pointless.
yeah im probably thinking about it to much. Great movie in any case!
There used to be a deathmetal song on youtube that used this in the intro, but I cant find it anymore.
Edit: Reason I couldnt find it was because it wasnt part of the original song. The song is called: Death Machine, by Pulveriser. Also its not techincly deathmetal but something more grindy, not sure what genre, im not a expert in that particular metal genre.
Agoraphobic Nosebleed's Pentagram Constellation used this as an intro, don't know if you're talking about that? No death machine in the lyrics though.
@@MisterAutist that was not it. It had more of a Death metal vibe with some other subgenre of metal mixed in (i believe brutal but not sure).
Thanks for the suggestion though :)
I mean, that's the thing. If you have someone in control, you can point to them as the "enemy". You can say they're "responsible". But what about when NO ONE's in control? What about when each individual person just wants his paycheck, and doesn't give a shit about the grand scheme? Bureaucracies, whether in corporations or government, thrive on this exactly BECAUSE you can't point the finger at ONE person. Each person in the system was responsible in their own way. They only knew as much as they NEEDED to know. Beyond that, they weren't trusted with any more information than their little heads can grasp. They were "just following orders". The greatest inhumanity and atrocity of Nazi Germany was that each individual person in the party and military was just "following orders". They didn't care about the bigger picture. If there was a conspiracy (Hitler's decision to systemically murder Jews), then each individual person didn't care how it affected people as a whole.
All they cared about was "keeping their head down and staying out of trouble". And of course their own survival since some were probably threatened with execution if they didn't cooperate. Others, like the "innocent German civilians", weren't even aware of half the atrocities occurring. If "ignorance is bliss", then they didn't know how bad things were until rockets started raining down on Berlin. So if you ever have to ask why there ISN'T some grand conspiracy theory to control or manipulate people, it's because people themselves allow themselves to be manipulated when they believe enough falsehoods because it's easier to believe there's some "ulterior motive" than the random chance and happenstance that humanity is NOT in control, and that most people are simply another cog in the machine. They don't question their roles, because it helps them sleep easier at night. And that's true for MOST people. NONE of us can claim to be "above it all".
Imagine the speeches if they tossed Alex Jones in there.
If you believe "big brother" is watching you, you're dangerously self-important.
Anybody knows that ambient ost when Hewlett is making his speech? Please anybody, i cant find it :(
The very definition of Kafkaesque.
yep, this movie came out before snowden...
It's infinitely depressing when you, as a realist, feel like a nihilist...
I'm not paranoid, it's us that are allowing this to happen b/c we have food, electricity, plumbling, etc. What, it will happen to you and I b/c we are just allowing it.
Rings true and is terrifying... I'd prefer a conspiracy
Oof yeah conspiracies sound more comforting now honestly.
Conspiracies breed purpose. It’s much like religion. People want to believe life is organized, pre-ordained and there are people in charge that run the machine, and that we craft our idols and villains on said people to give us meaning and motivation.
Truth is, there is no NWO, no deep state, no heroes, no villains, no god. Just people, who - if the chips were down - will happily screw over their friends and family for a quick buck or those who will only speak out on injustices in the world for the sole purpose of validation and approval from others to feel better about themselves.
That’s why we have to seek out our dreams and craft out an actual meaning to our lives, because let’s face it , the reason why all of us were even born, is because our parents gave up on their dreams and ambitions and settled on the contingency plan - raise kids and hope they don’t fail like they did.
Just keep your head down and work hard - go along to get along - is someone(s) in charge or is it all an operation gone off the rails?
The only thing that confused me before is in Cube Zero [the prequel) someone is in charge of the cubes, but here is idk if there is someone in charge or not
OBRA MAESTRA
When No One's in Charge by Andrea Ovans
“You know what’s scarier than big brother or some fly on the wall watching you 24/7? No one caring enough to watch you at all, you and your actions being so insignificant to their plan, that they don’t feel the need to watch you, to them, it would just be a waste of time and resources.”
Agoraphobic Nosebleed
PENTASSAM CONSTELLATION
When I was watching this movie and made it to this scene, I was shocked this is where it came from. Agoraphobic Nosebleed fucking rules
So sad
0:06 SahskaTUUUNE.
This part is too Canadian for my American butt.
This is all of the massive but abandoned Facebook groups that have 17 admins but 0 management in any way to a t lolol
whimper :(
How does the cube work
Big Chungus it moves
It's like a giant 3D shuffle puzzle, made out of these cubic chambers - the entire structure, the titular "cube", operates in some giant underground bunker/space. Nobody knows, how it operates exactly, only later in film they discover that it's a giant pointless escape puzzle. Rooms have different colors, different traps (or no traps), each one has a set of numbers describing it's original grid position in the start combination of the cube. Here, they discover that by following the rooms with numbers, which are the powers of primes, can lead them to the entry room (the one room, which leads to an exit, when the cube is in its start combination). Since the rooms shuffle on their own, mindless wandering can lead one to walk in circles, bu ending up in the same room they've been sometime in the past.
Killkor i always wondered how they fit the traps in between cubes, like the spikes etc
@@user-co1gi7yd2r most likely they get filled with something compressed, thus extending them (like a snail's eye, if it gets startled)
Killkor makes sense. What about the acid scene? Is it even relatively possible? I know fluoroantimonic acid is the strongest one out there but theres very little info on it other than it can melt through almost anything
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Davids description doesn't really make sense though... Have people forgotten the definition of the word "Conspiracy"? How does something this large in scale & infrastructure with obviously unlawful devious intentions being hidden from the general public NOT qualify as a Conspiracy?
I mean, maybe what it was originally going to be used for has long since been done away with, sure! And they sidestepped into using it for whatever its supposed purpose is now. But clearly there are many people needed to keep something like this running as well as a secret. All manner of maintenance, system management, security, kidnappers, etc etc etc! Big Brother may not be watching but someone sure as hell is!!!
Macam bukan Maurice dean wint je
This is the typical usa gov project - wasteful + pricey.
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I love this movie, but I disagree with this. In order for a function thing to be built, someone has to have designed it. Someone contracted him to design the shell because they knew that they needed the shell.
However, this moment of the movie is deeper than just what the characters are saying. It's symbolic. It's not that there's no reason, it's that there is no ANSWER. If you're inside of it, no matter how much you think about it, you'll never come to the answer. That was the point of the film. That's why everyone died except for the handicapped guy. The one guy who didn't care about why it existed is the one guy that sees it from the outside in the end.
The scene isn't just a well scripted moment in the movie. This scene is the entire POINT of the movie.
They aren't saying no one designed it. He is basically saying they got hired to do a job to make this thing. Then they realized this thing had no point, but rather than scrap it and admit they wasted billions of dollars on an elaborate nothing they pick random people and see if they can get out of it just for the hell of it.. It was just pure luck that they got a Doctor, A Prison Artist, A Math Wiz, An Autistic man, a corrupt cop and the guy that designed the shell.
The whole thing was literally based on trying to bring point to the pointless.
@@Shanethefilmmaker Escape artist/burglar.
I think, in the case of the The Cube, nobody "saw the big picture": individuals were merely tasked to build certain small parts of it, and then other individuals put together certain pieces together, and so on, even the shell could be built in parts and then just be put together by a mindless machine. The entire thing could be built without someone actually stopping for a moment and seeing the whole apparatus.
Shanethefilmmaker Reminds me a lot of Samuel Beckett’s plays
@@Shanethefilmmaker its a awesome idea but how do you install traps without knowing they are traps lol. I mean it could happen and they must of been accidently design that no one saw it was going to be a trap. The chances of that is so low lol but still possible. Still i love this film. Top 5 films for me.
Worth is on drugs confirmed
Ngl this speech is cool but like... still kinda confusing? I mean I can understand no one really knowing whats going on or seeing the whole picture on what was built, but SOMEONE had to kidnap them and drag them to this thing right? So wouldn't that guy know what it is
My guess is that you'll be able to find plenty people that would do that without asking any questions if you know where to look. And the guy ordering it wouldn't necessarily be any more wiser as to why he have to order the kidnapping. In fact, not asking questions may be the easiest way to cope with commiting horrible actions.
Not necessarily- as far as the person doing the kidnapping is concerned, it might well just be another job, and wherever those warm bodies go is out of their hands or mind. Indeed, the entire process you described could be decompressed into separate stages involving separate people, none of whom are aware of or care to know what the big picture or lack thereof is.
Well as Worth said "You think anybody wants to ask questions? All they want is a clear conscience and a fat paycheck."
It's quite simple honestly, theirs plenty of engineers that'll manufactory a colossal amount of junk for you as long as the pay is good. And the engineers aren't kidnapped, they are paid to do a job and they don't care what that job is; they just want a fat paycheck and a clear conscience. If they did care you could just fabricate a story or ask someone else. The point is there's no point.
and they definitely didn't put the death traps in there as part of an amusement park or something. I haven't seen the sequels yet but I think this was all definitely deliberate. there's really no way it wasn't
even if the kidnappers had no idea who or why they were doing it, somebody hired them. and somebody hired the construction of the cube, and somebody put the death traps in there, and the numbers to signal which rooms were trapped and which weren't. somebody is responsible, I think " this was just a blunder" is a really cheap attempt at allegory
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I usually don't like to bring up religion since it is a sensitive topic for most, but this goes hand and hand with what I'm about to say based on this scene. People think God created us to have a specific purpose in life hence why we exist, but the reality is that there is no God that created us. We are just simply here by chance and all the inner workings of the universe building itself to what we know today. Or at least what we can fathom. People like to try to make sense of things because that's just how we are on an intellectual level. Over the years of our existence, God wasn't even a concept until people developed intellectually overtime to think more creatively which leads to today's accomplishments and ideals. God was simply conjured up by regular people to establish order and fear with it. Nothing about religion is accurate. It is nothing more than a control mechanism to keep us from falling out of line between right and wrong.
I feel bad for people who are this blind. When you're young, you literally consume knowledge based on family values and traditions. So, in a way you have no choice but to believe what you're taught which begins the brainwashing at a young age. And over time you just accept it as fact until you start to question life as you get older and you decided from there if any of this is true or not.
wow.
Funny enough. The exact thing can be said about Atheism as well. There are literally things out there, science has yet to explain or simply can't no matter how smart we get. By your logic, science never existed either. Even when it was first started out it was treated the same way thwy treated religion. People once considered it a scientific fact that the Earth was the center of our solar system, galaxy and universe. Those that said otherwise got burned at the stake. A few years ago after a milennia of it being otherwise, they say that Pluto is no longer a planet. By your logic, science, much like religion simply just happened. As in never existed to begin with.
Someone show this to the Qanon people.
They'd just tell you that this movie is a part of the conspiracy, and that it's trying to convince you through this actor that there is no conspiracy.
@@rmj8905 Nah worse. The second they find out it's a Canadian movie and that's a Canadian actor even the QAnon Stargate fans would either not take it seriously enough to consider it a threat or take it too seriously and come up with some convoluted conspiracy that Canada is gonna take over the world.
I love this scene. It perfectly illustrates the difference between a "social creationist" "critique" of society that is heavily predisposed towards antisemitism and a "social darwinist" systems theoretical critique of society, e.g. fascism vs. marxism.
Of course I'm reappropriating the term "social darwinism" here. The popular understanding of the term only makes sense if you have a fifth grader's understanding of Darwinian theory. Also, Marx obviously liked Darwin's work for also trying to explain complex systems as emergent.
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Yeah, this is where the movie officially lost me. I mean, the dialogue and constant in fighting was making me grate my teeth pretty long before this, and Holloway especially was really making me grate my teeth, but this was too much. This explanation is both underwhelming and absurd. How could such a massive installation not have some kind of hierarchy of command behind it? It couldn’t.
Alien experimentation on humans would have been a much better route to go.
Adam Worth explains that. It did have a command but it was lost or changed around as more people got involved. This sounded like a private works operation so it's very well possible. The new people involved probably didnt care what purpose it was as long as they got paid. I mean think about it, if you were getting paid 10 million to put some components together would you really care what you were building. Especially if snooping around could get you killed or someone you care about killed.
Theres always the assumption that there cant be colossal screw ups that can lead to to a project being completely thrown out of wack. A look through history shows you that this is very well possible.
Thats america.
Aliens would've been the obvious and uninspired route to go. The story would have no meaning then.
People make projects all the time. Hierarchies are meant to be flipped. It's chaos.
It's about the essentially uncontrollable nature of bureaucracy. Holloway's vision of a top-down malicious government conspiracy is a simple story with clearly identifiable bad actors. We want to believe this story because it makes the horrors of the world easier to digest. Worth's point is that the truth of it all, that bureaucracies are just large unwieldy things moving forward of their own momentum, is more banal and therefore more terrifying.
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