People tend to go all-in like that. Covid? Yeah instead of creating a for-sure safe vaccine that passed 10-15 years clinical testing like any other drug (so as to be able to say it's safe for *certain*) we hammer out an overnight answer and immediately mandate it upon millions. Let's hope y'all didn't accidentally pick Hodgkin's Lymphoma over a nuisance cough for 2-3 weeks lol. I definitely didn't take it seriously enough to gamble cancer on an experimental government drug. Dunno why anyone would besides just doing what the TV told them to do
It took 20 years to before the problems became evident. A pilot program would be shorter than that and the tire reef experiment would have been approved
Honestly, I doubt the intention behind this disaster was ever "Noble." Sounds to me like whoever came up with this awful idea just wanted to find a shortcut to the tire waste issue at any cost.
But it wasn’t one person’s decision. It involved hundreds and people in dozens of organizations including reputable environmental groups. Too suggest they were all in collusion to intentionally harm the environment for the nefarious benefit of “Big Rubber” is laughable
sounds like something "disruptive tech bros" would come up with. Ya know, like making a submarine out of sheet metal and fiberglass all steered by a toy video game controller.
I can't be the only one that is pretty confident these big companies knew exactly how this was going to go and just didn't care. Because it was a way for them to get rid of their tires and look like they cared about the environment and then if something goes wrong they could just " blame the scientists"
I'm a native to the area, born and raised on these waters fishing and diving. I'm about 50 years old now and remember this well. I think the people responsible really thought this would work. It's not uncommon for crab and lobster fisherman to use tires to lure crabs and lobsters so they can use the tires as structure to hide from predators like sharks and eels. This also makes it easy to catch them and without having to "hunt" for them. They see a couple tires anchored securely for many years had become full of marine growth and did provide sanctuary from natural predators. But the people that decided to try and replicate this with millions of tires did NOT do the proper research and experiments to ensure it would work in that magnitude.
I doubt they actually knew what was going to happen. I think it's far more likely they saw it as a win-win...get rid of tires, help the environment at the same time. But I do think their main incentive was to get rid of tires, hence why they didn't bother taking a cautious approach before dumping a ton of tires into the ocean. Probably looking for an excuse to get rid of tires in a cheap manner.
As someone who throws his old car batteries into the ocean to make reefs where the fishes can have electricity for their smartphones, even I think this is insane.
Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. Thank you very much for your time. Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them). Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI). Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy. Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful. Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI). Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad). Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning! Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures. Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement. It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them. (19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).. God said : Say, “We believe in Allah, and in what was revealed to us, and in what was revealed to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the Patriarchs, and in what was given to Moses and Jesus, and in what was given to the prophets from their Lord. We do not differentiate between any of them. And to Him, we surrender.” (2:136 / Translated by Community) Salam (Peace) -------------------------------
I struggle to believe that anyone with good intentions and a bit of knowledge actually thought this was a good idea. What an incredible epic scale disaster.
Growing up not far from a Goodyear tire factory, I could’ve told them as a child that this was a bad idea. The smell alone from that factory left no doubt about the toxicity of tires.
They knew. It just proves the entire purpose was never to help the wildlife. They had 2 million tires made of toxic chemicals they wanted to dump in the ocean and managed to convince the right people it would actually somehow help the environment.
@jason you gotta remember this was the 1970’s these scientist and environmentalist had no idea that steel rusts away in saltwater or that the chemicals in the rubber would leach out into the ocean and destroy the environment. They’ve come a long way since then right!???? Smh
I have really hard time believing that no one knew this would become a problem. It seems like an instinctively bad idea even without knowing exactly why.
I find it very odd how this plan can be made with the very obvious (to me at least) issue of toxic pollutants inevitably leaking out of the tires and harming life in a wide area around them.
Right? I mean as soon as I heard they did it, my first thought was all of the chemicals used to make the tires leaching out into the water. I don't believe for a millisecond that nobody thought of this back then.
we could find out in a few decades that antiperspirant (aluminum) is bad, or the plastics used today caused the same issues as the tires did, etc - in both cases, we've been using those items for decades and something may come to light in the future about it (in which case the generation then may say "why would they even do that")
People BARELY had toilets in the 60s..... They didn't have dump trucks for garbage MOST places.... People would bury paint cans in their yard for disposal..... -These are the SAME people, who hold OFFICE today.
It’s actually not an awful idea. Waste has been used as artificial reefs for decades. My state actually used a demolished bridge as an artificial reef and it’s been super successful.
@@sirxander5420 Its not, look up the cost of Lithium harvesting for the environment, as well as the increased power loads on local electrical distributers(many still use coal) for electric car charging.
@@LostShipMate Studies have shown that creating EVs are worse than gas cars straight out of the factory, but the impact they make during the long run is much less than gas cars. EVs = Worse in the short term, much better in the long term.
Doesn’t exist? Coral Reefs are actively being destroyed at an alarming rate… even back then it was happening. So the problem DOES exist. Just this solution was awful
@@SuperKREPSINIS almost like that doc dark water or whatever it was called. You know people ignored some type of science and just went along with the paycheck
I dont think it was knowingly. Corals tend to grow on random stuff that we consider garbage in the ocean and that was the idea. But well looks like not a lot of study was made and now we are the ones who know that tires are bad for this purpose. They didnt know it and we only know it definitely doesnt work because they tried it and failed. Coral is grown in metal structures now and then "replanted" (nailed lol) on the rest for restoration.
@@iandavidvillaloboswong5180 Nah it was just a cheap way to get rid of garbage, they did not even bother to test possible impacts on the eco sytem before dumping millions of tires. Thats not even negligent thats just plain stupid. Artifical reefs are not created by throwing garbage into the ocean. To create artificial reefs people use retired aircraft carriers, oil rigs, and even New York City subway cars. These vehicles are not simply sunk-careful attention is paid to the chemicals they may emit to the surrounding ocean and seabed. The structures are therefore decontaminated: all plastic and toxic materials are stripped from them. Which is a elaborate and expensive process.
Yes as a born and raised south Floridian who is almost 50 years old and has never lived outside of Miami or Ft Lauderdale and one that was raised on the water fishing and diving. This was not our states finest hour. I remember in the peak of my SCUBA diving days they were still dumping tires. I dove the tires once with my father and a few friends in the mid-late 1980's and even as a young kid I was like WTF??? I never wanted to dive it again. I was so glad they decided to begin cleanup efforts. They will never get all the tires out but they did make a good dent in the mess.
They accomplished almost nothing, removing not even 1/4th of the tires. And waaaaay too late, the whole area is polluted with toxins and microplastic from the tires is probably in every human living within 1000 miles of the dumpsite.
@@moos5221 tires don't produce microplastics, they're rubber, and the toxins are being actively dispersed in the insane volume of the ocean. It's an environmental catastrophe, but let's not get ahead of ourselves.
How. How was this ever EVER thought to be a good idea? How did nobody think about any part of this? Literally anyone would say dumping tires in the ocean in any way would be a terrible idea
We see it's a bad idea because it's in hindsight. There were many ideas in history that have been done with good intentions that later proved to be disastrous.
@@bradsanders407 Yeah, but Goodyear has engineers and scientists working for them. They should have known that the tires would be toxic. It's like Elon Musk showing up to see Tesla cars getting dumped in the ocean and not saying anything to stop it.
I help the ecosystem near me by dumping my used motor oil in the local swan pond. They love it! Covering themselves beak to feet in the stuff. I'll see what they all think to tires and car batteries next visit. Thanks for the tips! 👍👍
I worked in the tyre industry for years,( Kwik-fit UK ) and we used to charge people £1 per tyre for "green disposal" and when people asked where they went we happily explained "they are all chained together and placed in the sea to make artificial reefs to save wildlife" 🤦 Kwik fit made millions making people think the environment is being "saved" when it was the complete opposite... Just remember that people, it's still going on today with electric cars, it's a narrative being pushed for corporations to make money, in twenty years you will be looking at video's of lithium batteries in places they shouldn't be and that the mining for lithium and shale gas ruined the planet ...and they'll blame you, again, and charge you, again!
Did kiwk-fit genuinely do that?! When are we talking about roughly? I only ever used them once for a tyre change. Gouged the hell out of my alloys, then claimed the damage was there prior. Never went back again.
Did you protest and quit? If not, you unfortanetly are equally to blame in going along with it. Anyone with half a brain would immediately see the disasterous stupidity here, unless they didn't give a shit about this planet.
Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. Thank you very much for your time. Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them). Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI). Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy. Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful. Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI). Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad). Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning! Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures. Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement. It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them. (19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).. God said : Say, “We believe in Allah, and in what was revealed to us, and in what was revealed to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the Patriarchs, and in what was given to Moses and Jesus, and in what was given to the prophets from their Lord. We do not differentiate between any of them. And to Him, we surrender.” (2:136 / Translated by Community) Salam (Peace) -------------------------------
It's impossible really. I bet people from the 1400s knew it was horrible to dump waste on what feeds them. All I can think of is greed and gullibility here. I refuse to believe that folks from 70 years ago had no idea that rubber is toxic
I once knew someone who owned just a few acres of land, like 4-5. Problem was, the land was not useable for anything since it was mostly a giant ravine. None of it was flat. They filled in the ravine with thousands and thousands of tires, then tried burning them with a top layer of dirt. It was almost as good of an idea as making this reef. The EPA got involved. Semi loads of tires were hauled out. It took years of work to clean up.
Because, much like today, it was heavily backed by government, corporations and media and “proven” by “science” (studies and research paid for by government, special interests that required those studies to have certain results).
These are the bright minds that often lead a country. Nearly anyone could imagine what was going to happen, but they didn't care they had to solve the short-term problems of where to put the tires.
They thought it was a good idea in the 70s. I'm 30 and it was only the late 90s people even gave a second thought on climate change. Science was there in the 80s, but no action was taken until later.
Did no one think about what salt water does to steel? Or about what tires are made of, and what happens if it breaks down? Then again, it was the 70s, when reduce, reuse, and recycle meant making crafts out of old egg cartons and empty juice concentrate cans. Hey kids! Let’s make stuff to decorate the house out of garbage! I think every house had at least one pencil holder made from an old juice can covered with a scrap of fabric or leftover wallpaper and a bit of trim.
Honestly! I don't understand acting as if people some decades in the past were too primitive to understand very observable, natural phenomenon and yet we had physicists, scientists and etc. that were aware of complicated subjects in the fields of astronomy, mathematics, physics and so forth in the ancient world with far less information and rudimentary instruments. PS. Not a critique of your comment but a critique of the absolute dolts who decided dumping tires into the ocean was a good idea. 🙄
In 2010 California got busted for dumping tons and tons of garbage in the ocean and our sea lions have a particularly vicious form of cancer from the dumping of plastics which bind with molecules from the dumping of tens of thousands of barrels of poison from the past few decades. So, don't be so contemptuous of the 1970s. Remember, it was 1972 when DDT was banned.
The thing I store batteries in is literally a Mountain Dew can from 2015 covered in duct tape and I tore the top off with pliers for better access. That's been my battery storage for 8 years.
There was something very insidious brewing behind this project. I do not believe for a single second that *nobody* examined the science here and foresaw the very strong potential for this exact outcome.
I dive here quite a lot and most of those remaining tires have been removed by a private commercial diving company via a contract from Broward County. I’m making a documentary about this disaster and a inventory from Broward who is using tire waste to in construction now. The tires they removed ended up being burned for fuel which is terrible.
Burning tires for fuel isn't bad when its done correctly, tires are shredded and ground up and shot into a natural gas furnace to add to the fuel for processes like concrete or electrical generation which takes a massive amount of energy. The rubber and steel burn cleanly and the exhaust gets run through stack scrubbers after that.
@@angrymadscientistexactly!! Volunteering and extra fishing tag’s… get Government out of everything!!!! Btw, rant of the day…. Government is a Fake word… its a lie… it’s a word people use to hide behind… Name names!!!! Who are the PEOPLE who approved this??? All the way down the line… from elected officials to corporate executives and charities… who all approved this and everything else!!!
I’m an environmental geologist. Unfortunately air quality standards are way lower than water quality standards. You would be surprised what’s released into the atmosphere.
@@erroneous6947 that's because anything that gets damaged in the rivers streams and oceans takes FOREVER to dissipate vs the air which dissipates within a significantly shorter time span. Water is highly reactive with other things.
30 million dollars is a drop in the bucket compared to other things, for example expanding the New York Hudson yards park is going to cost 374 million. But removing this will prevent toxic chemicals and microplastics from leeching out into the water which is so much better for the environment than creating small artificial parkland in a giant city.
As a diver I've seen professional dive sites building coral reefs out of plastic boxes (!) or thin metal rods that are rusting away and will let the whole structure collapse after a while. So this is no surprise to me.
We did the same in france, we put tires attached together by chains on the sea floor to try to create seaweed and other zone. It did not only failed, but now we're searching since decades for tires across mediterannea because the chains broke...
Also the 70's: spraying cancer inducing dioxin-filled herbicide over the entire country of Vietnam. Also the 70's: Advertising cigarettes to children with Joe Camel and the Flintstones on TV. Also the 70's: Cutting out pieces of people's brains and calling it a medical procedure (Lobotomy) to treat people with mental illness. Also the 70's: Knowing that Asbestos is carcinogenic but putting it in everything anyway. Also the 70's: Leaded gasoline. Also the 70's: Open air atomic weapons testing. Also the 70's: Nuclear meltdown at Three Mile Island who's safety inspector was the basis for Matt Groening's Homer Simpson. Also the 70's: Smoking cigarettes EVERYWHERE, in resturants, in bars, in the office, on the bus, in the subway, on airplanes, etc.
@@loadeddiaper4216 Mother Nature needs to punish those who are in control and actually destroying the plant and environment. Not the innocent lives that have nothing to do with this
0:34 you can recycle tires into artificial surface materials, such as asphalt. Asphalt itself is the most recycled material ever, with around 95% of the current one originating from a recycled previous one, but the remains that gets turned into dust, or gets washed away, those can be replaced by new material originating for example from car tires.
The intention behind the reef was to cheaply dispose of the waste by convincing enough people it was noble to dump hazardous rubber tires into the ocean. Lmfao
As an advocate for fish being more mobile, regardless of the obvious problems throwing tires into the ocean can cause, I think it is a nice gesture to give all those tires to those fish that can't afford outrageous tire prices! This is a truly a moment of triumph for lower income fish to have reliable tires on their vehicles. I don't understand all these "throwing tires in the ocean" haters. Grow up. Fish need cars too.
Thank you for sharing this tragic story. It also encourages the question would an aquarium in the ocean for the ocean made of the plastic that has been floating in the ocean also be a bad idea?
It was great for Goodyear. Gave people a cheap and easy way to dump their tires, while pretending to do something good. Being able to cheaply dispose of tires was almost certainly the real motivation for many of the groups involved. It's very obvious to anyone what the end result would be. They didn't care, just wanted a cheap way to dump garbage and left future generations to deal with it
not much different from today's environmentalists. puppets used to actually "destroy" the environment. i say "destroy" like that because we can't actually destroy it, but we can slightly modify it, enough to create discomfort.
Broward County Florida Diver here, diving off of Dania Beach Peir right next to the Jacks....this was sickening. I will never think of the Jacks the same way again.
Thanks for making this video. The intent was "noble"...there are better adjectives. I was alive then, but never heard of this ridiculous event. No one should do anything this risky without being held responsible to clean it up if it fails. That would reduce the idiocy by a peg or two.
Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. Thank you very much for your time. Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them). Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI). Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy. Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful. Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI). Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad). Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning! Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures. Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement. It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them. (19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).. God said : Say, “We believe in Allah, and in what was revealed to us, and in what was revealed to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the Patriarchs, and in what was given to Moses and Jesus, and in what was given to the prophets from their Lord. We do not differentiate between any of them. And to Him, we surrender.” (2:136 / Translated by Community) Salam (Peace) -------------------------------
"The intent was "noble"" sums up everything pretty well. the problem is you cant even argue against any of these "noble" ideas now a days without being labelled something horrible in order to shut you down.
@@bradsanders407 I believe he's referring to the environmentalist that had a part in deciding this was a good idea. They mentioned in the video that environmentalists agreed this was a good idea. The next question is what environmentalists were these, and who wrote their paychecks? But the video didn't address that.
There is no way tire manufacturers weren't aware this would fail terribly. I imagine they just didn't say anything because they knew getting rid of tire waste would be good for business and the event would be free publicity.
I'm not a scientist of any kind nor a chemist or oceanographer or environmentalist or any thing else you'd need brain cells for but I damn sure would've known not to throw used tires in the ocean especially wrapped in metal strapping. Even before the video started I was thinking about what would leak out of the tires eventually and that the straps would rust away.
Metal strappings were fine, there's been other successful reefs constructed that used them. Florida was just too low IQ and didn't make them well and didn't test them, no way the scientists that studied this weren't paid off by tire/oil companies though, scientists already knew about the harmful effects of petroleum byproducts (tires, plastics, etc.) by the late 60s, early 70s.
Always amazing how the world did well without human's help but still we insist on trying to repair something that's not broken instead of fixing ourselves
Thankfully, there are organisations who are trying to clean up the tires. 4Ocean is one of them & they also repurpose plastic & other rubbish collected from beaches & oceans in a few locations. They make jewellery & bracelets out of tyres & the plastic. Highly recommend supporting them if you're wanting to help a cause such as this.
Some of my very best fishing spots off New Jersey are tire piles, the world record tautog was caught on a tire pile, they team with life in colder climates, seemingly not so much in Florida.
This was cleaned up years ago after it was realized what a mistake it was. I remember this well. Nobody at the time thought it was a bad idea. Tires make a terrible artificial reef. The old ships they sank are very successful artificial reefs.
It couldn’t be cleaned up because the retrieval attempts occurred AFTER the majority of the reef had scattered tires for hundreds of miles. The toxic chemicals and microplastics will be around for thousands of years including the food chain that you are a part of
Nobody, not a single person with knowledge on the chemicals in those tyres could figure out it would be bad? Nobody counsidered that loose tyres would drift away or that steel rust in saltware? I am 100% sure people spoke up against this, but like today they are silenced in the name of "eco friendly/green"
Did you not watch the video?🙄 It literally explains all that🤦🏻♀️Your memory serves you wrong, because not only did it say in the video that they haven’t been able to clean it all up, but you can also google it and realize that there are still tons of tires there till this day.
i live in the bahamas and forida is about 313 miles from us and i never heard or knew about this before, that goes to show what sounds and seems like a good idea may get out of hand
Wow I’m surprised this wasn’t recycled. I was born in 1991 and I remember in the first grade our playground was renovated and they used recycled tires to make padding on the ground. I would think more innovative ways to recycle would be made today!
wow taking "Out of Sight Out of Mind" to a whole new level!!! I guess that's what happens tho when peace, love and harmony is mixed with a lot of drug use.
My thoughts on the "tire mulch" are the same. The difference is the tire mulch is ground up to small pieces. The recovery will never happen. You see playgrounds across the USA with the tire mulch. Imagine how toxic the water run off is... Save our Water!
Where do you think the tire that used to be on the tire when it was new went? Dust, left on the road, washed down the drain. So, as you are for saving the water I assume your method of transportation has wooden tires or something? I am genuinely curious what you are using as an alternative?
@@pontiacg445You are right, they turn into micro plastic. Some researchers at TU Berlin just invented a filter to catch the stuff when the water washes it into the sewers. Since it's a new technology not yet implemented, and people drive cars since over 100 years, you can barely imagine the mess.
Try California! They got busted in 2010 for dumping tons and tons of garbage in the ocean. Environmentalist lowjacked their trash so they knew exactly where it was going. California paid fishermen to use a more environmentally friendly net for fishing so it wouldn't catch dolphins etc, and dumped the dangerous nets into the ocean. Oh, and don't forget Cali's 50 thousand barrels of DDT leaking out into the ocean and causing the deaths of so many sea lions from cancer.
New York city did the same thing but with several old trains at the bottom of the Hudson River the East River. They've been there since 2001 that's 22 years. They haven't had any problems
Old trains are just metal boxes, not bundles of toxic chemicals. It's like when the Navy sinks an old ship to make a reef. Tires on the other hand are full of toxic byproducts, not to mention light enough to drift with the currents (unlike those trains in NYC).
The subway cars are stripped, cleaned, and washed before going in the ocean. Also they are electric. They have no engines in them. Nothing to cause harm, just aluminum framework. Also aluminum does not decay so fast, which is why you can still find WW2 bomber planes at the bottom of the ocean after 80+ years.
@@MrWolfSnack Also, metal makes a very effective base for an artificial reef because of how it reacts with salt water. Rubber on the other hand, well ...
@@sct913 Yeah salt will slowly dissolve the rubber. That's why for people that live in the Midwest we burn up tires every few years. The salt will dry the rubber and crack it apart.
Oh damn I read the title and Immediately dumped every spare tire I had into the ocean to Help the fish. I should have watched the video before I dumped them.
Somehow when I was in my late teens and had begun driving, I got the idea to use tires to build a tire reef in a lake in Florida. Let's just say it was in North Florida. I believe I had about 63 tires that I had found dumped in some woods about a mile away. It seemed like a win, win situation. Back then I had already heard about people dumping Christmas trees. I new of at least one stove that was in some weeds. I had seen it while swimming. The idea was simply habitat for fish. So I dumped those tires. I don't remember if the tires were bound together or what. I really wasn't quite sure where I had put the tires though because it was in a random deep spot. I didn't have a depth finder device. Long story short, that lake started drying up in the 80's. It remains just a handful of ponds to this day. I wonder if there tires are still in a pile, if they drifted around or what. I wonder if anyone hauled the tires away. Since I was living in Florida, I guess the idea of tire reefs sounded like a great idea. Turn some trash into fish habitat and over time I guess we all thought the tires would dissolve away. So it seems I was inspired by the current idea of the time. I think the reef was in about 15 feet of water. It was deep enough that it became a bit scary to go down to the bottom. The air above seemed far away. I always thought I had done a good deed for the fish, for fisherman, etc. Oh well. But really, the damned lake dried up, my parents got divorced. It was just the lake house, a vacation home of sorts. Now my oldest brother, different mother, owns the shack. He surely doesn't have property that anyone is much interested in. It's beyond sad to see what became of the lake. I just see it on Google and that lake is just gone.
What would be smart is to replace the tire areas with granite rocks and boulders. They are heavy enough to not be moved by the hurricanes and they should be able to keep any submerged tires below them
The authorities who approved this absurd idea with little to no research, while the tire manufacturers said nothing, are definitely to blame for this and it should have been cleaned up.
I remember seeing this as a child on the news. I also remember my dad saying. That is not going to work tires And salt water do not mix Never heard anything else about it until today. Of course as I have always known. My dad is always right. R.I.P. DAD 😎
the fact they didnt do a pilot program with a few hundred tires, before dumping millions, is just mind boggling.
That's what I was thinking. You always test a small area before committing full go with anything.
People tend to go all-in like that. Covid? Yeah instead of creating a for-sure safe vaccine that passed 10-15 years clinical testing like any other drug (so as to be able to say it's safe for *certain*) we hammer out an overnight answer and immediately mandate it upon millions.
Let's hope y'all didn't accidentally pick Hodgkin's Lymphoma over a nuisance cough for 2-3 weeks lol. I definitely didn't take it seriously enough to gamble cancer on an experimental government drug. Dunno why anyone would besides just doing what the TV told them to do
Flroiduh
It took 20 years to before the problems became evident. A pilot program would be shorter than that and the tire reef experiment would have been approved
@@Un_Pour_Tous Yeah, New Yakuhs that move there and screw everything... You can stay there too....
As a fish living in this area, I can attest this has not helped me or my friends and has driven the property value of my house down
And i'm sure the rising sea levels have also put your house at risk of being less shorefront then it used to be.
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But... You're a tree. Are you a tree fish?
What you need to do is move to the high class whitewall tire community. If you are especially lucky you will find a redwall tire castle!
As a fish that lives in the same neighborhood i can confirm that this happened to me too
Honestly, I doubt the intention behind this disaster was ever "Noble."
Sounds to me like whoever came up with this awful idea just wanted to find a shortcut to the tire waste issue at any cost.
But it wasn’t one person’s decision. It involved hundreds and people in dozens of organizations including reputable environmental groups.
Too suggest they were all in collusion to intentionally harm the environment for the nefarious benefit of “Big Rubber” is laughable
Logic
Spot on. They knew what they were doing
Someone made some money off that decision ... I wonder who? 🤔
Evidenced by the authorities quickly permitting the dumping of non-bundled tires.
It is hard to believe no one ever considered this might not be a good idea.
It is more like someone found an innovative way to dump toxic materials.
Or the us government dumping concrete over a nuclear radioactive waste dump in the Pacific Ocean.
Yeah... Seeing this was so horrible that my eyes rolled back in my head and got stuck.
Welcome to humanity
It’s hard to believe a person actually thought about this and thought it would work. I’m pretty sure a 5 year old could tell you it doesn’t make sense
Where did they release one million plastic balloons?
“Environmentalists and entrepreneurs came up with the idea” is a terrifying statement
What led them to conclude dumping tires in the ocean was a good idea, personal gain 💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰
always…. the ones that say they want to protect them environment are the ones that don’t have a clue about nature… and end
up making a mess….
Who worked for Goodyear most likely lol
Almost as terrifying as "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you"
sounds like something "disruptive tech bros" would come up with. Ya know, like making a submarine out of sheet metal and fiberglass all steered by a toy video game controller.
I can't be the only one that is pretty confident these big companies knew exactly how this was going to go and just didn't care. Because it was a way for them to get rid of their tires and look like they cared about the environment and then if something goes wrong they could just " blame the scientists"
I'm a native to the area, born and raised on these waters fishing and diving. I'm about 50 years old now and remember this well. I think the people responsible really thought this would work. It's not uncommon for crab and lobster fisherman to use tires to lure crabs and lobsters so they can use the tires as structure to hide from predators like sharks and eels. This also makes it easy to catch them and without having to "hunt" for them. They see a couple tires anchored securely for many years had become full of marine growth and did provide sanctuary from natural predators. But the people that decided to try and replicate this with millions of tires did NOT do the proper research and experiments to ensure it would work in that magnitude.
@@ScarabChris Thanks for your input, It's valuable.
I doubt they actually knew what was going to happen. I think it's far more likely they saw it as a win-win...get rid of tires, help the environment at the same time. But I do think their main incentive was to get rid of tires, hence why they didn't bother taking a cautious approach before dumping a ton of tires into the ocean. Probably looking for an excuse to get rid of tires in a cheap manner.
literally with used tires u can make sandals or other stuff to recycle them.... this was just a lazy solution
True.
As someone who throws his old car batteries into the ocean to make reefs where the fishes can have electricity for their smartphones, even I think this is insane.
lmfao
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Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).
Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning!
Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures.
Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement.
It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them.
(19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad)..
God said : Say, “We believe in Allah, and in what was revealed to us, and in what was revealed to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the Patriarchs, and in what was given to Moses and Jesus, and in what was given to the prophets from their Lord. We do not differentiate between any of them. And to Him, we surrender.”
(2:136 / Translated by Community)
Salam (Peace) -------------------------------
bro what they gonna do on smartphones they avoid nets
I struggle to believe that anyone with good intentions and a bit of knowledge actually thought this was a good idea. What an incredible epic scale disaster.
Growing up not far from a Goodyear tire factory, I could’ve told them as a child that this was a bad idea. The smell alone from that factory left no doubt about the toxicity of tires.
Dayton?
and yet, google still claim rubber bands to be not toxic.
you can know how dangerous something is just by the smell
We had brigestone tyre factory down the road and boy did it stink .
Fellow Akronite?
You know as well as anyone it was never about 'helping fish'. It was about cheap disposal of a drag on our Income Statement.
Who could have possibly known that steel belts would rust away in saltwater?!
They knew. It just proves the entire purpose was never to help the wildlife. They had 2 million tires made of toxic chemicals they wanted to dump in the ocean and managed to convince the right people it would actually somehow help the environment.
salt water can't melt steel beams
@@jonessii7/11 is an inside job. Stay woke, bro!
@@jonessii Neither can thermite. * Cough Cough *
@jason you gotta remember this was the 1970’s these scientist and environmentalist had no idea that steel rusts away in saltwater or that the chemicals in the rubber would leach out into the ocean and destroy the environment. They’ve come a long way since then right!???? Smh
I have really hard time believing that no one knew this would become a problem. It seems like an instinctively bad idea even without knowing exactly why.
Mix together idiocy, wishful thinking and greed.
That's democrats for you
@@HaggisMuncher-69-420 Yup
Trust me they 100% knew the consequences but corporations don’t care they just wanna make money the cheapest way possible.
And where is goodyear now?!
I love the fact that the ocean spat up the tire waste on the beach a couple of times.
The best way to dispose of old tires is simply to recycle them. How hard is that?
@@jdos5643 The problem is that many types of plastic cannot be recycled
@armandoventura9043 One way ship to be sent towards the sun will solve that problem
nature was really like, f you, take these back
@@armandoventura9043well, tire rubber is not one of them
I find it very odd how this plan can be made with the very obvious (to me at least) issue of toxic pollutants inevitably leaking out of the tires and harming life in a wide area around them.
Right? I mean as soon as I heard they did it, my first thought was all of the chemicals used to make the tires leaching out into the water. I don't believe for a millisecond that nobody thought of this back then.
Nobody gave a damn back then, lead was literally pumping out of every engine. People just straight balling high on heavy metal.
we could find out in a few decades that antiperspirant (aluminum) is bad, or the plastics used today caused the same issues as the tires did, etc - in both cases, we've been using those items for decades and something may come to light in the future about it (in which case the generation then may say "why would they even do that")
The fish and wildlife didn't have lobbyists, it's disgusting what was done to them
People BARELY had toilets in the 60s..... They didn't have dump trucks for garbage MOST places.... People would bury paint cans in their yard for disposal.....
-These are the SAME people, who hold OFFICE today.
Dumping 2 mil tires into ocean to help fish is the type of shenanigans you would see in GTA parody world
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It’s actually not an awful idea. Waste has been used as artificial reefs for decades. My state actually used a demolished bridge as an artificial reef and it’s been super successful.
Walter
in what world does someone think to dump 2 million tires in an ocean to "help ecosystems"
In what world does making everyone drive electric cars help the ecosystem !
In a world where Goodyear and other tire companies donate millions to politicians.
@@Flea1959MarketJordans Thats a completely different point
@@sirxander5420 Its not, look up the cost of Lithium harvesting for the environment, as well as the increased power loads on local electrical distributers(many still use coal) for electric car charging.
@@LostShipMate Studies have shown that creating EVs are worse than gas cars straight out of the factory, but the impact they make during the long run is much less than gas cars. EVs = Worse in the short term, much better in the long term.
This is how you create a problem that doesn't exist
A lot of human problems don't actually exist......welcome to humanity.....
@@Magneticlaw like global warming. The solution always seems to be more taxes and less freedom.
Unintended consequences
It is a problem that exists, but it's a damn horrible solution to it
Doesn’t exist? Coral Reefs are actively being destroyed at an alarming rate… even back then it was happening. So the problem DOES exist. Just this solution was awful
They didn't think it was a good idea. They pretended they thought it was a good idea because they wanted rid of the tyres.
'Business' as usual
I'm your 100th liker here & bye.
They are just stupid
As simple as that
They 100% knew what they were doing
Would love to hear about people coming forward about how people got rich doing this while knowingly destroying an ecosystem
Not just that all the trash went to ocean flooding waters with micro plastics but allso made someone just little bit more ritch
@@SuperKREPSINIS almost like that doc dark water or whatever it was called. You know people ignored some type of science and just went along with the paycheck
I dont think it was knowingly. Corals tend to grow on random stuff that we consider garbage in the ocean and that was the idea. But well looks like not a lot of study was made and now we are the ones who know that tires are bad for this purpose. They didnt know it and we only know it definitely doesnt work because they tried it and failed.
Coral is grown in metal structures now and then "replanted" (nailed lol) on the rest for restoration.
@@iandavidvillaloboswong5180 Nah it was just a cheap way to get rid of garbage, they did not even bother to test possible impacts on the eco sytem before dumping millions of tires. Thats not even negligent thats just plain stupid.
Artifical reefs are not created by throwing garbage into the ocean.
To create artificial reefs people use retired aircraft carriers, oil rigs, and even New York City subway cars. These vehicles are not simply sunk-careful attention is paid to the chemicals they may emit to the surrounding ocean and seabed. The structures are therefore decontaminated: all plastic and toxic materials are stripped from them. Which is a elaborate and expensive process.
@@SuperKREPSINIS we started to use microplastics, so we could slow down the destruction of forests around the world
I like how mother nature throws back the tires back to the beach shore lines
This is why we have UA-cam. So we all can learn about stuff like this. I never heard about this before.
Yes as a born and raised south Floridian who is almost 50 years old and has never lived outside of Miami or Ft Lauderdale and one that was raised on the water fishing and diving. This was not our states finest hour. I remember in the peak of my SCUBA diving days they were still dumping tires. I dove the tires once with my father and a few friends in the mid-late 1980's and even as a young kid I was like WTF??? I never wanted to dive it again. I was so glad they decided to begin cleanup efforts. They will never get all the tires out but they did make a good dent in the mess.
They accomplished almost nothing, removing not even 1/4th of the tires. And waaaaay too late, the whole area is polluted with toxins and microplastic from the tires is probably in every human living within 1000 miles of the dumpsite.
@@moos5221 tires don't produce microplastics, they're rubber, and the toxins are being actively dispersed in the insane volume of the ocean. It's an environmental catastrophe, but let's not get ahead of ourselves.
This is a tiny issue compared to the nuclear bomb testing in the bikini island (google Bikini Atoll), and the suffer of the local people.
How. How was this ever EVER thought to be a good idea? How did nobody think about any part of this? Literally anyone would say dumping tires in the ocean in any way would be a terrible idea
We see it's a bad idea because it's in hindsight. There were many ideas in history that have been done with good intentions that later proved to be disastrous.
Because Florida.
Am I right???
@@casualgamers3369 Still seems like a dumbass idea even back then.
Because all the people involved were dumb college hippies high on drugs.
@@joeschmoe7221 yes because Florida is the only place where stupid shit can happen, right?
Where was Goodyear during the clean up??? No blimp, no equipment, no cash?
Wonder if they retrieved the golden tire 😂
@@mikecool4ever LOL. It's was probably just extremely toxic gold spray paint.
True. Someone should sue Goodyear.
It wasn't their idea. They simply supply a demand. Can't blame them.
@@bradsanders407 Yeah, but Goodyear has engineers and scientists working for them. They should have known that the tires would be toxic. It's like Elon Musk showing up to see Tesla cars getting dumped in the ocean and not saying anything to stop it.
The Good Year blimp floating over head was a nice touch.
I help the ecosystem near me by dumping my used motor oil in the local swan pond. They love it!
Covering themselves beak to feet in the stuff. I'll see what they all think to tires and car batteries next visit.
Thanks for the tips! 👍👍
God bless you
@@bradsanders407 We've all got to do our bit to help out. 👍
Thank you for your selfless sacrifice
"i aM hElPiNg!!!" 🤪
@@Sombody123 r/woosh
I worked in the tyre industry for years,( Kwik-fit UK ) and we used to charge people £1 per tyre for "green disposal" and when people asked where they went we happily explained "they are all chained together and placed in the sea to make artificial reefs to save wildlife" 🤦 Kwik fit made millions making people think the environment is being "saved" when it was the complete opposite... Just remember that people, it's still going on today with electric cars, it's a narrative being pushed for corporations to make money, in twenty years you will be looking at video's of lithium batteries in places they shouldn't be and that the mining for lithium and shale gas ruined the planet ...and they'll blame you, again, and charge you, again!
Any time a polluting industry gets involved in green initiatives you can bet it's not going to work.
Did kiwk-fit genuinely do that?! When are we talking about roughly?
I only ever used them once for a tyre change. Gouged the hell out of my alloys, then claimed the damage was there prior.
Never went back again.
Hydrogen seems like the better car solution
Did you protest and quit? If not, you unfortanetly are equally to blame in going along with it. Anyone with half a brain would immediately see the disasterous stupidity here, unless they didn't give a shit about this planet.
It's a great example of green washing. I went to school for civil & environmental engineering and I have been disillusioned by the "green" industry
How anyone thought this was good idea is almost unbelievable, bloody obvious what was going to happen.
Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. Thank you very much for your time.
Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them).
Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy.
Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).
Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning!
Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures.
Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement.
It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them.
(19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad)..
God said : Say, “We believe in Allah, and in what was revealed to us, and in what was revealed to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the Patriarchs, and in what was given to Moses and Jesus, and in what was given to the prophets from their Lord. We do not differentiate between any of them. And to Him, we surrender.”
(2:136 / Translated by Community)
Salam (Peace) -------------------------------
Yep. It is not just hindsight either.
I'm sure it was a good idea, financially, for those who approved to do this. A good idea for the environment, of course nobody thought that
It's impossible really.
I bet people from the 1400s knew it was horrible to dump waste on what feeds them.
All I can think of is greed and gullibility here.
I refuse to believe that folks from 70 years ago had no idea that rubber is toxic
I once knew someone who owned just a few acres of land, like 4-5. Problem was, the land was not useable for anything since it was mostly a giant ravine. None of it was flat. They filled in the ravine with thousands and thousands of tires, then tried burning them with a top layer of dirt. It was almost as good of an idea as making this reef. The EPA got involved. Semi loads of tires were hauled out. It took years of work to clean up.
Still can smell it burning😂
How could they not know the tires would be toxic? We can't believe some of the experts didn't know ahead of time.
Because, much like today, it was heavily backed by government, corporations and media and “proven” by “science” (studies and research paid for by government, special interests that required those studies to have certain results).
Florida... say more
Ofc they knew, but experts who said it outloud would be fired. Companies just wanted to get rid of their waste.
they... knew(?)
Rubber isn't toxic, it just doesn't provide a habitat for coral etc. The claims made in this video are ridiculous fear mongering.
These are the bright minds that often lead a country. Nearly anyone could imagine what was going to happen, but they didn't care they had to solve the short-term problems of where to put the tires.
Humanity never ceases to amaze me. Not at all for the better, but that doesn't stop them.
Someone got a big kick back approving this nightmare
There are tens if not hundreds of successful tyre reefs around the world.
This one failed because hurricane and pesticides from nearby factory.
My geuss is those tire reefs are very small. Rubber is considered toxix to life. A big difference between 4 million and 400 tires.
Everyone that thought this was a good idea shouldn't be in a position of power. Ever.
funny how the same eco hippies you worship today came up with this idea in the first place and paid money to fund it.
thats not how it works lol
They should all have been forced to clean it up out of their own pockets.
They thought it was a good idea in the 70s. I'm 30 and it was only the late 90s people even gave a second thought on climate change. Science was there in the 80s, but no action was taken until later.
They must be all retired or dead by now anyway.
Did no one think about what salt water does to steel? Or about what tires are made of, and what happens if it breaks down?
Then again, it was the 70s, when reduce, reuse, and recycle meant making crafts out of old egg cartons and empty juice concentrate cans. Hey kids! Let’s make stuff to decorate the house out of garbage! I think every house had at least one pencil holder made from an old juice can covered with a scrap of fabric or leftover wallpaper and a bit of trim.
Honestly! I don't understand acting as if people some decades in the past were too primitive to understand very observable, natural phenomenon and yet we had physicists, scientists and etc. that were aware of complicated subjects in the fields of astronomy, mathematics, physics and so forth in the ancient world with far less information and rudimentary instruments.
PS. Not a critique of your comment but a critique of the absolute dolts who decided dumping tires into the ocean was a good idea. 🙄
In 2010 California got busted for dumping tons and tons of garbage in the ocean and our sea lions have a particularly vicious form of cancer from the dumping of plastics which bind with molecules from the dumping of tens of thousands of barrels of poison from the past few decades. So, don't be so contemptuous of the 1970s. Remember, it was 1972 when DDT was banned.
The thing I store batteries in is literally a Mountain Dew can from 2015 covered in duct tape and I tore the top off with pliers for better access. That's been my battery storage for 8 years.
I don't feel a lot of thinking took place.
@@Mr.SisterFisster But I bet a lot of *_feelings_* of virtuous self-validation did take place. Not all that different from today.
this is like that episode of the simpsons with the l'il lisa recycling plant that makes slurry
There was something very insidious brewing behind this project. I do not believe for a single second that *nobody* examined the science here and foresaw the very strong potential for this exact outcome.
Whoever came up with the idea obviously had a lot of money and power
...and is a psychopath.
And tires…
A lot of money and power and tires, but not enough brain cells sadly.
I dive here quite a lot and most of those remaining tires have been removed by a private commercial diving company via a contract from Broward County. I’m making a documentary about this disaster and a inventory from Broward who is using tire waste to in construction now. The tires they removed ended up being burned for fuel which is terrible.
Burning tires for fuel isn't bad when its done correctly, tires are shredded and ground up and shot into a natural gas furnace to add to the fuel for processes like concrete or electrical generation which takes a massive amount of energy. The rubber and steel burn cleanly and the exhaust gets run through stack scrubbers after that.
They should have implemented a "take two tires and add 2 extra bugs to your bag limit" strategy. They would have been gone in no time.
@@angrymadscientistexactly!! Volunteering and extra fishing tag’s… get Government out of everything!!!! Btw, rant of the day…. Government is a Fake word… its a lie… it’s a word people use to hide behind… Name names!!!! Who are the PEOPLE who approved this??? All the way down the line… from elected officials to corporate executives and charities… who all approved this and everything else!!!
I’m an environmental geologist. Unfortunately air quality standards are way lower than water quality standards. You would be surprised what’s released into the atmosphere.
@@erroneous6947 that's because anything that gets damaged in the rivers streams and oceans takes FOREVER to dissipate vs the air which dissipates within a significantly shorter time span. Water is highly reactive with other things.
As a discarded tire, I can attest I did not receive the fish and coral environment I was promised.
Because you killed em
Did you mean rapist instead of tire?
You couldve held your ground instead of moving about like crazy killing them fishes and corals. Smh
@oldironsides4107 w..what? Why would you just randomly accuse some guy of being a rapist?? 😂
These types of comments are not funny nor can tires become animate.
30 million dollars is a drop in the bucket compared to other things, for example expanding the New York Hudson yards park is going to cost 374 million. But removing this will prevent toxic chemicals and microplastics from leeching out into the water which is so much better for the environment than creating small artificial parkland in a giant city.
Or how about the 80 billion we clCanadians sent to Ukraine lol
The tyre guys knew exactly what would happen,it was a way to dump tyres!
True. I'm sure someone at Goodyear made a nice donation to the politicians who approved it.
Out of sight, out of mind...there's zero foresight.
Why do Aussies spell words wrong all the time
Industry and Government at its finest.
Add WEF and the party will get started..
As a diver I've seen professional dive sites building coral reefs out of plastic boxes (!) or thin metal rods that are rusting away and will let the whole structure collapse after a while. So this is no surprise to me.
We did the same in france, we put tires attached together by chains on the sea floor to try to create seaweed and other zone. It did not only failed, but now we're searching since decades for tires across mediterannea because the chains broke...
lol, it’s like the people who thought of this forgot all about basic chemistry
@@xxxBradTxxx if you think so
Humans are not the most advanced species after all.
As a Florida native, it’s sad when Mother Nature has to start fixing a problem that we created.
Mother Nature is patient -- like any good mother -- but one of these days she's going to lose her temper ... and that will be the end of us.
I really want mom to hurry up. 🙁
We are a problem, and make no mistake - mother nature will one-day "fix" us...
Pretty sure no one wants to do anything about it. That’s the problem.
Native... What tribe are you from?
The 70's: Passing clean air and water acts
Also the 70's: dumping 2 million tires in the ocean to "help" fish
LOL, it's the same in the 2000's. California passed environmental laws and then got busted for dumping tons and tons of garbage into the sea in 2010.
Also the 70's: spraying cancer inducing dioxin-filled herbicide over the entire country of Vietnam.
Also the 70's: Advertising cigarettes to children with Joe Camel and the Flintstones on TV.
Also the 70's: Cutting out pieces of people's brains and calling it a medical procedure (Lobotomy) to treat people with mental illness.
Also the 70's: Knowing that Asbestos is carcinogenic but putting it in everything anyway.
Also the 70's: Leaded gasoline.
Also the 70's: Open air atomic weapons testing.
Also the 70's: Nuclear meltdown at Three Mile Island who's safety inspector was the basis for Matt Groening's Homer Simpson.
Also the 70's: Smoking cigarettes EVERYWHERE, in resturants, in bars, in the office, on the bus, in the subway, on airplanes, etc.
And history is about to repeat itself.
@@SuperAnime4444someone is about to dump 2 million tires into the ocean?
@@bradsanders407 Environmentalists are about to push a stupid idea like getting rid of cows.
That 70s plan worked out well 😅
Best idea since “balloon fest” 😂😂
I saw a video of that also 🤣🤣@@levismith7444
This makes a grown man cry.
Never underestimate man’s God given ability to think of something stupid, and act on it!
Mother Nature will punish us
@@loadeddiaper4216 Mother Nature needs to punish those who are in control and actually destroying the plant and environment. Not the innocent lives that have nothing to do with this
I really appreciate your thoughts, perspective, and perceptions of the market. Please keep them coming
0:34 you can recycle tires into artificial surface materials, such as asphalt. Asphalt itself is the most recycled material ever, with around 95% of the current one originating from a recycled previous one, but the remains that gets turned into dust, or gets washed away, those can be replaced by new material originating for example from car tires.
The intention behind the reef was to cheaply dispose of the waste by convincing enough people it was noble to dump hazardous rubber tires into the ocean. Lmfao
As an advocate for fish being more mobile, regardless of the obvious problems throwing tires into the ocean can cause, I think it is a nice gesture to give all those tires to those fish that can't afford outrageous tire prices! This is a truly a moment of triumph for lower income fish to have reliable tires on their vehicles. I don't understand all these "throwing tires in the ocean" haters. Grow up. Fish need cars too.
As a fish who needs new bus tires for my school, I appreciate your advocacy. There’s some rough waters where I live. Every tire makes a difference.
@@BananaGrace nice play on the word 'school'. 😅
Apparently people are still 'reef-building' with tires at the creek by my house. 🤣
"In the name of health"
Is often the biggest contribution to tragedy
"This'll be good for fish."
*Dumps two million tires into ocean*
Thank you for sharing this tragic story. It also encourages the question would an aquarium in the ocean for the ocean made of the plastic that has been floating in the ocean also be a bad idea?
It’s kind of hilarious that Goodyear was like, “uuuuum… okay!” to this idea without doing even a second of research about their own products 😂
It wasn't Goodyear that did this. They simply cashed in on the "we're helping the fish" spirit of the event. Looking back it's a terrible look.
It was great for Goodyear. Gave people a cheap and easy way to dump their tires, while pretending to do something good. Being able to cheaply dispose of tires was almost certainly the real motivation for many of the groups involved. It's very obvious to anyone what the end result would be. They didn't care, just wanted a cheap way to dump garbage and left future generations to deal with it
I am glad people are trying to clean up the mess.
Not realizing metal will rust? Sounds like the "coral" was a cover-up to just throw the tires..
"Environmentalists" were just a name given to hippies who dropped out of school.
not much different from today's environmentalists. puppets used to actually "destroy" the environment. i say "destroy" like that because we can't actually destroy it, but we can slightly modify it, enough to create discomfort.
Way to go humans. The ocean is TIRED of us.
We screwed Mother Nature send the asteroid
My goodness the lack of foresight is more shocking than the actions of dumping the tires.
Broward County Florida Diver here, diving off of Dania Beach Peir right next to the Jacks....this was sickening. I will never think of the Jacks the same way again.
Wasn't this channel called "Dark History" or am I crazy? Love your videos, hope you keep it up!
Thanks for making this video. The intent was "noble"...there are better adjectives. I was alive then, but never heard of this ridiculous event. No one should do anything this risky without being held responsible to clean it up if it fails. That would reduce the idiocy by a peg or two.
Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. Thank you very much for your time.
Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them).
Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy.
Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).
Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning!
Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures.
Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement.
It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them.
(19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad)..
God said : Say, “We believe in Allah, and in what was revealed to us, and in what was revealed to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the Patriarchs, and in what was given to Moses and Jesus, and in what was given to the prophets from their Lord. We do not differentiate between any of them. And to Him, we surrender.”
(2:136 / Translated by Community)
Salam (Peace) -------------------------------
"The intent was "noble"" sums up everything pretty well. the problem is you cant even argue against any of these "noble" ideas now a days without being labelled something horrible in order to shut you down.
Well My life may not be the very best environmentally friendly but at least I'm doing better than the environmentalists
Sure you are
@@bradsanders407 I believe he's referring to the environmentalist that had a part in deciding this was a good idea. They mentioned in the video that environmentalists agreed this was a good idea. The next question is what environmentalists were these, and who wrote their paychecks? But the video didn't address that.
I heard dumping cars can help counteract this problem... about 3-4 million of them should do nicely...
There is no way tire manufacturers weren't aware this would fail terribly. I imagine they just didn't say anything because they knew getting rid of tire waste would be good for business and the event would be free publicity.
I'm not a scientist of any kind nor a chemist or oceanographer or environmentalist or any thing else you'd need brain cells for but I damn sure would've known not to throw used tires in the ocean especially wrapped in metal strapping. Even before the video started I was thinking about what would leak out of the tires eventually and that the straps would rust away.
Simple rope would have been genius by comparison
Metal strappings were fine, there's been other successful reefs constructed that used them. Florida was just too low IQ and didn't make them well and didn't test them, no way the scientists that studied this weren't paid off by tire/oil companies though, scientists already knew about the harmful effects of petroleum byproducts (tires, plastics, etc.) by the late 60s, early 70s.
You have all the qualities to be an environmental, climate ‘scientist’ and address the WEF…
“Just dump it in the ocean”
-smartest person ever
Never forget that our "best minds" are actually only this good.
The first 10 seconds explains everything. Local Florida man decided to save the fish by throwing junk in the sea
Always amazing how the world did well without human's help but still we insist on trying to repair something that's not broken instead of fixing ourselves
Thankfully, there are organisations who are trying to clean up the tires. 4Ocean is one of them & they also repurpose plastic & other rubbish collected from beaches & oceans in a few locations. They make jewellery & bracelets out of tyres & the plastic. Highly recommend supporting them if you're wanting to help a cause such as this.
The same people who made the decision to dump these tires are the same people who run countries around the world. So proud of our government
Some of my very best fishing spots off New Jersey are tire piles, the world record tautog was caught on a tire pile, they team with life in colder climates, seemingly not so much in Florida.
They don't rot out like the Florida warm water
This was cleaned up years ago after it was realized what a mistake it was. I remember this well. Nobody at the time thought it was a bad idea. Tires make a terrible artificial reef. The old ships they sank are very successful artificial reefs.
It says in the video there is still hundreds of thousands down there
It couldn’t be cleaned up because the retrieval attempts occurred AFTER the majority of the reef had scattered tires for hundreds of miles. The toxic chemicals and microplastics will be around for thousands of years including the food chain that you are a part of
Nobody, not a single person with knowledge on the chemicals in those tyres could figure out it would be bad? Nobody counsidered that loose tyres would drift away or that steel rust in saltware?
I am 100% sure people spoke up against this, but like today they are silenced in the name of "eco friendly/green"
Did you not watch the video?🙄 It literally explains all that🤦🏻♀️Your memory serves you wrong, because not only did it say in the video that they haven’t been able to clean it all up, but you can also google it and realize that there are still tons of tires there till this day.
This feels like a situation where they really should have tested in a lab before just chucking thousands of tires in the ocean
How do you test that in a lab.
millions of tyres*
Does this surprise yo in a world where an experimental DNA altering injectible was rolled out worldwide with no prior testing?
@@vertyisprobablydeadyou find one and coordinate
@@vertyisprobablydeadWhat are you on?
i live in the bahamas and forida is about 313 miles from us and i never heard or knew about this before, that goes to show what sounds and seems like a good idea may get out of hand
I lived at the gateway to the Great Barrier Reef for 17 years would be heartbreaking to see this happen anywhere.
now I understand why in animal crossing you sometimes catch tires lol
Wow I’m surprised this wasn’t recycled. I was born in 1991 and I remember in the first grade our playground was renovated and they used recycled tires to make padding on the ground. I would think more innovative ways to recycle would be made today!
wow taking "Out of Sight Out of Mind" to a whole new level!!! I guess that's what happens tho when peace, love and harmony is mixed with a lot of drug use.
5:15 I guess military divers took 100.000 $ for each tire 😂
My thoughts on the "tire mulch" are the same. The difference is the tire mulch is ground up to small pieces. The recovery will never happen. You see playgrounds across the USA with the tire mulch. Imagine how toxic the water run off is... Save our Water!
YES! i just got done throwing away a lot of that crap!
Where do you think the tire that used to be on the tire when it was new went? Dust, left on the road, washed down the drain.
So, as you are for saving the water I assume your method of transportation has wooden tires or something? I am genuinely curious what you are using as an alternative?
@@pontiacg445You are right, they turn into micro plastic. Some researchers at TU Berlin just invented a filter to catch the stuff when the water washes it into the sewers. Since it's a new technology not yet implemented, and people drive cars since over 100 years, you can barely imagine the mess.
Now , if they can wipe mother nature's butthole , the volcanoes and similar !
@@pontiacg445 I walk... barefoot
Floriduhhh never fails to disappoint
Try California! They got busted in 2010 for dumping tons and tons of garbage in the ocean. Environmentalist lowjacked their trash so they knew exactly where it was going. California paid fishermen to use a more environmentally friendly net for fishing so it wouldn't catch dolphins etc, and dumped the dangerous nets into the ocean. Oh, and don't forget Cali's 50 thousand barrels of DDT leaking out into the ocean and causing the deaths of so many sea lions from cancer.
Especially since this was carried out under a Democrat governor.
How anyone could think this was ever a good idea is beyond me
New York city did the same thing but with several old trains at the bottom of the Hudson River the East River. They've been there since 2001 that's 22 years. They haven't had any problems
Old trains are just metal boxes, not bundles of toxic chemicals. It's like when the Navy sinks an old ship to make a reef. Tires on the other hand are full of toxic byproducts, not to mention light enough to drift with the currents (unlike those trains in NYC).
they strip everything back to bare metal before dumping, it's more a PR exercise than a cost effective way of doing it.
The subway cars are stripped, cleaned, and washed before going in the ocean. Also they are electric. They have no engines in them. Nothing to cause harm, just aluminum framework. Also aluminum does not decay so fast, which is why you can still find WW2 bomber planes at the bottom of the ocean after 80+ years.
@@MrWolfSnack Also, metal makes a very effective base for an artificial reef because of how it reacts with salt water. Rubber on the other hand, well ...
@@sct913 Yeah salt will slowly dissolve the rubber. That's why for people that live in the Midwest we burn up tires every few years. The salt will dry the rubber and crack it apart.
Trust the "experts" folks, they can do no wrong.
This sounds like a "we didn't actually ask any real scientists" situation to me...
Oh damn I read the title and Immediately dumped every spare tire I had into the ocean to Help the fish. I should have watched the video before I dumped them.
Say what you will about hindsight, but I fail to see how anyone thought this would be a good idea
Somehow when I was in my late teens and had begun driving, I got the idea to use tires to build a tire reef in a lake in Florida. Let's just say it was in North Florida. I believe I had about 63 tires that I had found dumped in some woods about a mile away. It seemed like a win, win situation. Back then I had already heard about people dumping Christmas trees. I new of at least one stove that was in some weeds. I had seen it while swimming. The idea was simply habitat for fish. So I dumped those tires. I don't remember if the tires were bound together or what. I really wasn't quite sure where I had put the tires though because it was in a random deep spot. I didn't have a depth finder device. Long story short, that lake started drying up in the 80's. It remains just a handful of ponds to this day. I wonder if there tires are still in a pile, if they drifted around or what. I wonder if anyone hauled the tires away. Since I was living in Florida, I guess the idea of tire reefs sounded like a great idea. Turn some trash into fish habitat and over time I guess we all thought the tires would dissolve away. So it seems I was inspired by the current idea of the time. I think the reef was in about 15 feet of water. It was deep enough that it became a bit scary to go down to the bottom. The air above seemed far away. I always thought I had done a good deed for the fish, for fisherman, etc. Oh well. But really, the damned lake dried up, my parents got divorced. It was just the lake house, a vacation home of sorts. Now my oldest brother, different mother, owns the shack. He surely doesn't have property that anyone is much interested in. It's beyond sad to see what became of the lake. I just see it on Google and that lake is just gone.
"I guess we all thought the tires would dissolve away." You were right -- they slowly dissolved into toxic chemicals.
A lot of words for “I dumped tyres in water”
What would be smart is to replace the tire areas with granite rocks and boulders. They are heavy enough to not be moved by the hurricanes and they should be able to keep any submerged tires below them
I had the same thought. The best thing done in the project for reef development was the concrete anchors in the middle.
The authorities who approved this absurd idea with little to no research, while the tire manufacturers said nothing, are definitely to blame for this and it should have been cleaned up.
I remember seeing this as a child on the news. I also remember my dad saying. That is not going to work tires And salt water do not mix Never heard anything else about it until today. Of course as I have always known. My dad is always right. R.I.P. DAD 😎
ya know what this is?
this is the ocean equivalent to Cleveland’s Balloonfest
I think that even a seven years old would say that this is a very bad idea. They should have know better. And I am pretty sure that they actually did.
It makes me sick ! Which Earth planet will be left to future generations ?