So like I kind of found out that the hunter ability nerfs weren’t prismatic specific after recording the video, that’s my bad🤣. But should have these changes been prismatic specific though👀?
Bro ever since the final shape dropped hunters have been getting nerfed an like I get it we op but it’s also like why not just BUFF the other classes so they’re viable it’s kinda irritating cuz they HAD to know what they were doing making us this way in the first place
Doesn't matter, literally the only one that matters is the specter nerf where it doesn't drop threadlings. The rest doesn't affect pve in any meaningful way, the pve nerf complaints are stupid. Nobody is laying a trap with smokes in pve, nobody in their right mind was using scatters (on prismatic) in pve, and we already circumvent the fuck out of ability cooldowns on half-decent builds.
The nerfs shouldn't even be a thing in the first place. People have been begging for buffs to Titans and Warlocks. Bungie's first thought is Hunter OP, must nerf into the ground because we are the fun police.
Did anyone seriously care about prismatic being too good in pve? I feel like it doesnt matter nearly as much as in pvp. Whos gonna complain? The pve enemies? In pvp however, it was the best thing that couldve happened imo. The whole class not only had too much ability uptime, but every single ability was also really good on its own. All the abilites also promote a slow and boring camping, gunfight avoiding playstyle.
No. Low levels activities are unfun to play because of how easy it is to kill everything. Nerf abilities, buff weapons. I don't need ANOTHER ad clearing ability, especially in a game known for THE GUNPLAY
@@yasininn76no, low level activities aren’t fun because they aren’t rewarding AT ALL and still take 10-15 minutes to complete, even if you delete everything. There’s too much waiting around/“defend” (aka just stand there and wait) ghost. The game has been in the same exact loop for over 10 years. It’s just fatigue more than anything
@@thethumblessn00b19 the game shits out loot for one activity and my man says it ain't rewarding. D2 players really just wanna get all the loot without playing the game lmao
@@Creature-ology I bet you eat crayons in real life too buddy. Here's a logical thought I'm sure your little mind could cook up. BUFF THE OTHER CLASSES instead of NERF one class.
I hate that they removed them but, most likely they’ll make it so you “need” that exotic just to put threadlings back on threaded spectre. I don’t mind the cooldown nerf, but the whole reason for threaded spectre spawn threadlings in the first place was because people realized some classes couldn’t take advantage of some class verbs. So in response, they tried to make it so that each class can have more avenues to build into the class verbs. For hunters it was threaded spectres creating threadlings.
@@nukecorporations Welcome to what Broodweavers deal with. No natural access to Sever. Can only use the fragment and Slice. Strand Hunter will now be in a similar boat with grenade option, two fragments that generate threadlings via finisher and strand weapon kill as well as Hatchling perk. If anything Strand Hunter will still have more access to the Threadlings than Warlock does with Sever.
When they just ghosted the holster reload intrinsic from lucky pants and didn’t even say shit about it. Everyone’s been begging them to bring it back but this is what they decided is important.
Well, I see a few parts getting some nerfs. Well could be the next target(how I’m not sure but it’s been used a lot lately). Song is definitely gonna be nerfed soon. We might have some aspects nerfed but we definitely have some extremely powerful stuff bungie might be eyeing
PvE: nothing much it's all the same PvP: prismatic hunter hell it's very common that the entire control game is just 12 prismatic hunters Edit: or if you're a broke warlock like me... And can't afford the final shape.... It's 1 warlock and 11 prismatic hunters
The PvP were more than deserved. The first IB of TFS was nothing but Threaded Spectre, Winter's Shroud and Swarm/Smoke Grenade spam. Being able to kill people with an ability that isn't supposed to that (aka dodge) unless the enemy is already at low HP and not at 100% HP was unbearable and even after the nerfs they still are unbearable as it's the only thing I see them use in PvP still.
titans have 2 of the best buiilds for PVP and PVE, prepare for lance spam in PVP once hunters get nerfed, and consecration spam is already one of the best PVE builds (dont take this as me saying they need nerfs, i like the craziness of the game atm)
@SumYungGai9999 Eeh. They can't spam lance. It is on a 14 second cooldown and relies on them bum rushing you with shiver strike. And with the amount of people in committed relationships with their shotguns I doubt that it will be a problem. But it's still annoying to be on the receiving end.
It's not that we don't have good things, it's more that our prismatic diversity is complete garbage. They could have added far better synergistic aspects for Void/Strand/Solar.
And in turn nerfs like these are why they lost one million people in the first week of Final Shape. No wonder it sold worse than Lightfall if they won't stop making trash decisions like these.
@@sforsyth2911I love watching players like you try to attack titans who are already 6 feet under bungie lol. Bet it helps you fuel that ego, bullying a class that doesn’t get anything from bungie!
@sforsyth2911 "feel unimportant" dude there was 30x the amount of hunters to titans in the raid race. There is no feeling, we ARE unimportant, we ARE a dead class with zero advantages to hunter or warlock.
Bungie: "I heard you were having fun playing Destiny." Community: "Yeah, it's nice to have strong builds again." Bungie: "Hold my beer" PATCH NOTES!!!! We: - Patched what was making the game fun. Go back and grind worms - Are continuing to ignore bugs that actually make you hate the game and break end game content. Bungie: "Happy now?" Community: "No, I think I'll go play something else now" Bungie: "Didn't forget to buy our next $100 expansion first"
Eh, it doesn't matter, losers will still keep glazing, Bungo. Players counts will dip, but tourists to the industry will keep glawkglawking Parsons for a free car.
No we did it's the only way to counter Hunter scum weave walk is actually really effective against Hunters only problem is it's impossible to fucking get because lightfall doesn't tell you shit and markers are still dog shit
We're making "balances" to the pvp sandbox to make it look like we care about pvp. At this day and age, these changes are for no one, and definitely not for pve players.
Hunter PvP nerfs were definitely called for. PvP nerfs can be done separately. We've seen bungie do it before. Don't know why they decided to hit Hunters in PvE, too. Literally NO ONE asked for that. Titans need a severe rework so they have some decent synergy outside of Consecration.
I will admit prismatic hunter for pve is kinda broken. I think it’s the grenade and which aspects you get that just makes it so broken lol 😂. Granted haven’t started prismatic for the others kinda. Warlock I started but haven’t finish but warlock idk man they kinda lacking in prismatic granted still really early for it so…
Prismatic hunter feels like a one trick pony before you get the cape exotic, n even then it's pretty much still just arc hunter melee build. Warlock felt much more gun with plenty of ability spam. That and the prismatic grenade fir hunter, I hate it so much.
All you need is getaway artist and arc grenade on warlock with bleakwatcher aspect and it trivializes most pve content and is rlly fun lmao. Hunter for me took a bit more tuning to be fun and good
@@fjoltnyr2464nah are you kidding you can spam smoke bombs and duskfields, grapple, etc with inmost light honestly prismatic hunter needs a lot more nerfs to bring it in line.
@@fridaysatjons1097 now, I may be wrong, but I'm fairly certain that inmost light is from the cape exotic. Still, until you get that cape, hunter prismatic builds seem like just another variation of arc punchy build. And ability spam on a warlock is more fun in prismatic than hunter.
I would say it's the other way around. The player base has been falling off for a while now because people are tired of being taken advantage of. The "balancing" of the game is just eroding the hardcore players who are left.
Yeah totally balance is the problem. Matter of fact why even make a game with rules or any skill progression at all They should also scrap individual classes too and put everything into one big bucket ,right?
@@chillrell1801yes at this point, didn’t listen to the player base when it was at its highest. Now at its lowest. Let the remaining players have fun and enjoy before the plug is pulled. How long they let Stasis ruin PVP before they fixed it? Didn’t listen then, now they have a standard?
Just one of many reasons I can't even play this game any more and I still gotta get even one clear on the new raid. You go through all that trouble to get weapons or rolls just to have this shit company nerf the stuff in to oblivion. Sure other games nerf stuff but they're still used at times. This game gets a nerf and no one uses that item any more.
@ChristopherStaton-e5l when 33% of the playerbase walks out from constant daily nerfs to their class you will see a 33% drop in revenue and DLC sales. Us titans begged and pleaded day in and day out to make us viable but to no avail. Maybe now that Bungie is getting layoffs left and right they will make titan useful and 33% of the playerbase can come back and pay Bungie that 33% revenue stream they're missing.
That nerf to hunters is needed they are most used and overrated thing plus titans needs survivalbility then anything and it’s nice change of pace when it’s not a hunter at the top of the dmg charts the last time remember warlocks or titans being on top of the dmg charts the titan had arc chest piece and the warlock best dmg was in d1 rise of iron so yea about dang time give them more
Hunters won't use anything that reduces class ability cooldown. I play Hunter in PVP because of the dodge. It is a legit get out of jail free card. I won't use anything that reduces it's uptime 🤷♂️
well deserved nerfs holy shit people can complain titans were broken idgaf hunters were making pvp unplayable atleast you could still beat titans godamn
Yeah because going against the smg sniping titans for an entire year was so playable, Or the dunemarchers slam, or the no-you wards, or the infinite overshield bubble titans or- yeah no, y’all made it just as unplayable 😭
@@martincalcos7341 dunemarchers slam i get if you are shit at aiming at titans but no you wards werent that bad and neither was bubble the fact i go to punch a hunter and they dodge back and slow me and explode a threaded specter in my face and then continue to throw a smoke to stop me from even trying to escape and that does dmg overtime and then follow up with a swarm nade is pretty fucking broken again titans you can avoid, hunters once they get close your screwed so shutup you whiny little hunter main
@@omelette9020 bruh the pot calling the kettle black is actually crazy with you. You wanna sit here and be like “wah wah hunter broken wah wah” but never want to take accountability for your own class. Thats the problem with this community, yall always wanna play victim. Titans were cancer for literal years but you just wanna say it wasnt that bad. Yall fucking made zone trials unplayable, please let’s not. 😭 😭 😭
@@martincalcos7341 made zone trials unplayable fuck out of here with that dont you forget well exists and still exists making it out like bubble was a massive issue there was so many ways to counter bubble like other ults and conditional finality, every hunter main are a fucking sooks bro the second hunters are broken in pvp you guys deny it and bring up old titan exotics that are unusable and then have a dig at people that complain that hunters are very broken and are quite literally making pvp unplayable there is not counter to prismatic hunter other then play prismatic hunter or uninstall destiny
@The24soldier umm titans were involved what are you talking about? 3 finished in the top 50 teams in comparison to hunters 90+. Bungie should nerf the class even harder so to rid the game of the last 3 titans so it's just hunters and warlocks.
Balance is impossible in this game tbh, at some point in time One of the three classes will have some dumb broken setup they can make use of in PvE and PvP. You really had Reconstruction on that Handcanon though... 😂That poor hunter.😭😭
Hunter is nerfed because their prismatic kit only lacks that which is abused at high level play, that being movement. Solar Warlock competitively is the best, fast charging super which requires another to shut down, paired with the fastest movement and best in air gunplay. Void Titan takes the second spot, for fast but weak movement, and a fast but weaker super, but with better tools in their kit to change a bad situation in your favor. Hunter has strand, providing the most unpredictable movement, with radar manipulation, and a tool to punish inaccuracy. Prismatic Hunter in comparison only misses on movement and in air gunplay. Fast roaming/shutdown super in storms edge and tether. Grenade wise it has grapple for chase down finishes, or swarm for area control/punishing. Smoke bomb is broken, being a free 1v1 or complete area denial for 10 seconds, also being refunded on dodge. And ALL of that procs stylish executioner, giving you vision through walls and radar manipulation. Then it's just a matter of what else you want, movement equal to stompees + cryoclasm slide in ascension, more radar manipulation with threaded specter, close range punish which feeds stylish executioner in winter's shroud, or gunpowder gamble for an undodgeable 100+ damage. Their kit simply has too many things working in conjunction without downside.
I'm confused, prismatic hunter has been in severe need of a nerf in pvp and y'all are bitching because aspects/abilities that weren't even being used in PvE are getting nerfed? Calm down and just equip your caliban+syntho/liars class item it's not that deep. We literally got a damage buff vs combatants on the threaded specter which arguably makes it more usable but we still whining
This video is basically my main complaint with Destiny these days. Started with Season of the Deep with Young Ahahmkara Spine, and just kept going. Some people say we have power crept like crazy and I ask, what power creep when we have been hitting for a fraction of our damage before, modding is a joke, and we got one-shot in Well even before the Final Shape nerf. Again, what power creep?
ok, the nerf was necessary though. Pve hunter was OP AF and PVP was still op not as much but, come on, they had smoke melee, swarm nade, threaded spectre, storms edge. It's like every pvp aspect in one lmao
What do you mean nerf celestial? it literally recently got a 25% buff because it was so god damn weak without the surge bug helping it. It's a One shot super, it SHOULD do a lot of damage.
4 year ago I started my account with stadia as a hunter, did 4 flawless dungeon runs, then I tried warlocks and titans they way more broken than hunters, now I just play warlock or titan because is easy they never get nerf
Bruh i sincerely hope you are sarcastic? 😂. Prismatic hunter is the most busted class in entire destiny history with the best melee and all best abilities etc combined. Gtfoh. 😂 prismatic hunter absolutely need heavy nerfs for pve.
@@dvb8637First you warlocks and titan mains have screamed how hunters were weak for years but as soon as we get anything its "NeRf hUnTErS". Yall are a joke.
@@adub20ablewell because of final shape they got a giga buff. So yeah we are gonna call for nerfs. Same way we are calling for buffs for titans. Us warlocks just want balance. I personally prefer arc warlock(I’m no meta slave).
Last time hunters were broken was shatterdive. Compare to titans who had Antaeus wards, peace keepers, citans (for a short durstion) and a mobility exotic that damages people
@@ChaosTheaterr Can say the same for the game with: - Sunsetting but still bloated as hell - Seemingly still doesn't understand balance 7yrs (lost count) into its lifecycle - A gameplay loop that amounts to chasing a gun with 1% higher DPS than another or the same 6 perk combinations - The seasonal model sorry "Echoes" that exists to just push FOMO
Well these nerfs are pretty soft tbh. They deserve and need far bigger nerfs, pve and pvp wise. Many people askt for a nerf on hunters for pve. No idea where you get that nonsens from that no one askt for it. Hunter made the titan class totaly absolete smh. Hunters deserved the nerfs. Especially on prismatic. But these nerfs are a joke. It still gonna make the titan absolete. I hope bungie soon comes with more and bigger nerfs on prismatic hunter.
So like I kind of found out that the hunter ability nerfs weren’t prismatic specific after recording the video, that’s my bad🤣. But should have these changes been prismatic specific though👀?
Bro ever since the final shape dropped hunters have been getting nerfed an like I get it we op but it’s also like why not just BUFF the other classes so they’re viable it’s kinda irritating cuz they HAD to know what they were doing making us this way in the first place
@@Phaed_Phantom facts
Doesn't matter, literally the only one that matters is the specter nerf where it doesn't drop threadlings. The rest doesn't affect pve in any meaningful way, the pve nerf complaints are stupid. Nobody is laying a trap with smokes in pve, nobody in their right mind was using scatters (on prismatic) in pve, and we already circumvent the fuck out of ability cooldowns on half-decent builds.
@@Zevox144 smokes were goo to throw at spawn zones preemptively helped with cc ... now its more like a grenade instead of the trap.
The nerfs shouldn't even be a thing in the first place. People have been begging for buffs to Titans and Warlocks. Bungie's first thought is Hunter OP, must nerf into the ground because we are the fun police.
Bro's got the malfeasance ammo count in that revolver
He should've added a Hawkmoon sounds effect
Fourth times the charm
more like thorn
“we’re bungie, we nerf everything” yep, yep
"Titans are too strong, buff hunter"
"This weapons isn't preforming how it's supposed to, nerf hunter"
“We’ll nerf the stompees”💀💀💀
"Sir, the player count is tanking, what should we do?!"
"I know! We'll nerf the most popular class!"
Haven’t heard this before, jeez it’s like a hivemind
u mean the most abused class in pvp? ye thats 100% justified.
in pve however 😂😂😂
Did anyone seriously care about prismatic being too good in pve? I feel like it doesnt matter nearly as much as in pvp. Whos gonna complain? The pve enemies?
In pvp however, it was the best thing that couldve happened imo. The whole class not only had too much ability uptime, but every single ability was also really good on its own. All the abilites also promote a slow and boring camping, gunfight avoiding playstyle.
Cry more 😂
Yea idc hunters have been eating good for years I'm happy for the nerd. Now pvp won't be as much of a cespit
PvE Warlock in the corner trying not to laugh.
Y’all next🤣
@@trilligy1807Warlocks have been on Bungie's shit list since self res, so..
U think u will survive huh?
@@shuraeditz27 we do
Pve content dont need hard nerfs or nerfs in general. Let players have fun in the pve content
No. Low levels activities are unfun to play because of how easy it is to kill everything. Nerf abilities, buff weapons. I don't need ANOTHER ad clearing ability, especially in a game known for THE GUNPLAY
@@yasininn76no, low level activities aren’t fun because they aren’t rewarding AT ALL and still take 10-15 minutes to complete, even if you delete everything. There’s too much waiting around/“defend” (aka just stand there and wait) ghost. The game has been in the same exact loop for over 10 years. It’s just fatigue more than anything
@@thethumblessn00b19 the game shits out loot for one activity and my man says it ain't rewarding. D2 players really just wanna get all the loot without playing the game lmao
@@Apollo-GD the ignorance of this post actually made me cry laughing, thanks mate I needed this. Because you must be trolling
@@yasininn76were in a game full of undead guardians with magic from space ✨ that took down the witness. What do you expect? lol
"And after prismatic Titan and Warlock become OP. We'll nerf stompies!" Truest statement ever
Oh trust me, prismatic hunter will still be meta in pvp. People will just swap to grapple and rope dart or shuriken.
Good, more spotlight means more likely to get nerfed.
@@Creature-ology I bet you eat crayons in real life too buddy. Here's a logical thought I'm sure your little mind could cook up. BUFF THE OTHER CLASSES instead of NERF one class.
the worst part is that probably that they get rid of the threadling like what it gonna happen to the new exotic ????
I hate that they removed them but, most likely they’ll make it so you “need” that exotic just to put threadlings back on threaded spectre. I don’t mind the cooldown nerf, but the whole reason for threaded spectre spawn threadlings in the first place was because people realized some classes couldn’t take advantage of some class verbs.
So in response, they tried to make it so that each class can have more avenues to build into the class verbs. For hunters it was threaded spectres creating threadlings.
@@RichieF_Jr yeah so now we have *check strand* no threadling
Threadling Grenade. @@nukecorporations
@@nukecorporations Welcome to what Broodweavers deal with. No natural access to Sever. Can only use the fragment and Slice. Strand Hunter will now be in a similar boat with grenade option, two fragments that generate threadlings via finisher and strand weapon kill as well as Hatchling perk.
If anything Strand Hunter will still have more access to the Threadlings than Warlock does with Sever.
@@thestudentsofscience2660to be fair no class really has that much access to sever
When they just ghosted the holster reload intrinsic from lucky pants and didn’t even say shit about it. Everyone’s been begging them to bring it back but this is what they decided is important.
bro had 4th times the charm
not the stompees :P
Damn, first titans and now hunters, I guess us Warlocks are next
We better not be we’re so balanced right now I don’t know how we could get more perfect
If we all suck, no one sucks 😂
@@johnnallen8052”If every class is dogshit, no one will be.” -Bungie, a titan main
Well, I see a few parts getting some nerfs. Well could be the next target(how I’m not sure but it’s been used a lot lately). Song is definitely gonna be nerfed soon. We might have some aspects nerfed but we definitely have some extremely powerful stuff bungie might be eyeing
It really ain’t to bad. Maybe if hunters didn’t all run the same shit especially swarm grenades.
Oh, nah, I haven't played in a month. What happened
PvE: nothing much it's all the same
PvP: prismatic hunter hell it's very common that the entire control game is just 12 prismatic hunters
Edit: or if you're a broke warlock like me... And can't afford the final shape.... It's 1 warlock and 11 prismatic hunters
People complaining about "pve nerfs" to hunter when only one of the changes affects pve. Because Destiny players can't read, they just start crying.
@amrogaming9261 I have the final shape I do not use prismatic at all it's **** I like good old solar and void for pvp and pve
I havent played since Salvation Edge release, they officially killed my desire to come back
@@JDR71326 you really think youre special or something dont ya
The PvP were more than deserved. The first IB of TFS was nothing but Threaded Spectre, Winter's Shroud and Swarm/Smoke Grenade spam. Being able to kill people with an ability that isn't supposed to that (aka dodge) unless the enemy is already at low HP and not at 100% HP was unbearable and even after the nerfs they still are unbearable as it's the only thing I see them use in PvP still.
Man had 33 bullets in a six round gun.
As a titan, im sorry... THAT YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA HAVE IT THAT GOOD FOR SO LONG
bro is firing Dead Man's Tale
Crazy how prism hunter is still by far the best pve subclass
My man really be over exaggerating those hunter nerfs huh.
Stompees on their way to getting a slide de buff instead 💀
“Um.. we’re Bungie we nerf everything”😂😂
W Kenduto upload
1:34 again.........
Titans cant even complain about nerfs because our asses were never getting anything good from the start 😭
titans have 2 of the best buiilds for PVP and PVE, prepare for lance spam in PVP once hunters get nerfed, and consecration spam is already one of the best PVE builds (dont take this as me saying they need nerfs, i like the craziness of the game atm)
Nothing good??? Then tell me how are this titan solo every actively in higher difficulty???
@SumYungGai9999 Eeh. They can't spam lance. It is on a 14 second cooldown and relies on them bum rushing you with shiver strike. And with the amount of people in committed relationships with their shotguns I doubt that it will be a problem. But it's still annoying to be on the receiving end.
It's not that we don't have good things, it's more that our prismatic diversity is complete garbage.
They could have added far better synergistic aspects for Void/Strand/Solar.
somehow even though titans don't get anything good we still get more nerfs then both the other classes combined
Honestly was expecting to hear all 9 Hawkmoon shots when nerfing pvp hunter XD
Sounds like a hunter problem.
NOT THE DAM STOMPIES BRO!
As a Titan it feels good to not be at the end of that gun for once
This hurts me greatly
Really dont even understand nerfs at this point when bungie doesn’t even want to continue the game anymore
the nerfs for pvp still werent enough
Not gonna lie that was completely justified! :D
WELL THAT'S TOO DAMN BAADD
I will by honest...PvP was 100% need it,AND I PLAY THAT SHIT
Hope lucky pants and still hunt nighthawk are next.
About time
you forgot where titans get nerfed for no reason
bungie: your having fun ok here is a nerf to "help" the community
The only people having fun were the prismatic hunters. Every other pvp player who had to fight against a bunch prismatic hunters is rejoicing.
And in turn nerfs like these are why they lost one million people in the first week of Final Shape. No wonder it sold worse than Lightfall if they won't stop making trash decisions like these.
That shit is hilarious dude great video
I love seeing hunters lose their shit over some baby nerfs lol.
Love seeing titans cry for months on end cause they feel unimportant lol
@@sforsyth2911I love watching players like you try to attack titans who are already 6 feet under bungie lol. Bet it helps you fuel that ego, bullying a class that doesn’t get anything from bungie!
@sforsyth2911 "feel unimportant" dude there was 30x the amount of hunters to titans in the raid race. There is no feeling, we ARE unimportant, we ARE a dead class with zero advantages to hunter or warlock.
@@judgementkazzy7172warlocks will always be superior to hunters.
@@fridaysatjons1097nah Hunters are cooler looking and more badass
Smh it never fails but we will adapt like always
Dont worry Bungie, Imma live my power fantasy in Warframe 😂.
Deserved.
Don’t worry we’ll nerf stompee
Me: NOOOOOOOO
Bungie: "I heard you were having fun playing Destiny."
Community: "Yeah, it's nice to have strong builds again."
Bungie: "Hold my beer"
PATCH NOTES!!!!
We:
- Patched what was making the game fun. Go back and grind worms
- Are continuing to ignore bugs that actually make you hate the game and break end game content.
Bungie: "Happy now?"
Community: "No, I think I'll go play something else now"
Bungie: "Didn't forget to buy our next $100 expansion first"
Eh, it doesn't matter, losers will still keep glazing, Bungo. Players counts will dip, but tourists to the industry will keep glawkglawking Parsons for a free car.
I’m just realizing Warlocks never got anything good like freeze rift or one of our strand aspects
No we did it's the only way to counter Hunter scum weave walk is actually really effective against Hunters only problem is it's impossible to fucking get because lightfall doesn't tell you shit and markers are still dog shit
What did they nerf from hunters?
my hunter is my mule so glad this doesn’t effect me lol
Yea bungie killed their own game a long time ago
Yeah, Bungie really can't seperated the PvP and PvE sandboxes.
Bungie not listening to the players is why I left Destiny and never came back
We're making "balances" to the pvp sandbox to make it look like we care about pvp.
At this day and age, these changes are for no one, and definitely not for pve players.
Hunter PvP nerfs were definitely called for. PvP nerfs can be done separately. We've seen bungie do it before. Don't know why they decided to hit Hunters in PvE, too. Literally NO ONE asked for that. Titans need a severe rework so they have some decent synergy outside of Consecration.
I will admit prismatic hunter for pve is kinda broken. I think it’s the grenade and which aspects you get that just makes it so broken lol 😂. Granted haven’t started prismatic for the others kinda. Warlock I started but haven’t finish but warlock idk man they kinda lacking in prismatic granted still really early for it so…
Prismatic hunter feels like a one trick pony before you get the cape exotic, n even then it's pretty much still just arc hunter melee build.
Warlock felt much more gun with plenty of ability spam. That and the prismatic grenade fir hunter, I hate it so much.
every prismatic class is good. hunter is slightly better and has more variety that is about it really
All you need is getaway artist and arc grenade on warlock with bleakwatcher aspect and it trivializes most pve content and is rlly fun lmao. Hunter for me took a bit more tuning to be fun and good
@@fjoltnyr2464nah are you kidding you can spam smoke bombs and duskfields, grapple, etc with inmost light honestly prismatic hunter needs a lot more nerfs to bring it in line.
@@fridaysatjons1097 now, I may be wrong, but I'm fairly certain that inmost light is from the cape exotic. Still, until you get that cape, hunter prismatic builds seem like just another variation of arc punchy build. And ability spam on a warlock is more fun in prismatic than hunter.
Mf got that Sturm mag
Trying to balance a dying game is why player base is dropping.
I would say it's the other way around. The player base has been falling off for a while now because people are tired of being taken advantage of. The "balancing" of the game is just eroding the hardcore players who are left.
@@URSoDead2Me I agree 1000 percent
Yeah totally balance is the problem.
Matter of fact why even make a game with rules or any skill progression at all
They should also scrap individual classes too and put everything into one big bucket ,right?
@@chillrell1801yes at this point, didn’t listen to the player base when it was at its highest. Now at its lowest. Let the remaining players have fun and enjoy before the plug is pulled. How long they let Stasis ruin PVP before they fixed it? Didn’t listen then, now they have a standard?
Nothing but FACTS LOOOOOOOOOOL
Just one of many reasons I can't even play this game any more and I still gotta get even one clear on the new raid. You go through all that trouble to get weapons or rolls just to have this shit company nerf the stuff in to oblivion. Sure other games nerf stuff but they're still used at times. This game gets a nerf and no one uses that item any more.
They nerfed hunters again?
Bout time hunters got A nerf....now if they only looked at all hunter exotics and abilities then they might see why so many titan mains walked away
@ChristopherStaton-e5l when 33% of the playerbase walks out from constant daily nerfs to their class you will see a 33% drop in revenue and DLC sales. Us titans begged and pleaded day in and day out to make us viable but to no avail. Maybe now that Bungie is getting layoffs left and right they will make titan useful and 33% of the playerbase can come back and pay Bungie that 33% revenue stream they're missing.
@@judgementkazzy7172 just because 33% of the playerbase leaves doesnt mean you lose 33% revenue lol...
That nerf to hunters is needed they are most used and overrated thing plus titans needs survivalbility then anything and it’s nice change of pace when it’s not a hunter at the top of the dmg charts the last time remember warlocks or titans being on top of the dmg charts the titan had arc chest piece and the warlock best dmg was in d1 rise of iron so yea about dang time give them more
We not fast than other guys me mad
only nerf hunter needs in pve is the punchy stuff
Thank god it’s Pvp only
Hunters won't use anything that reduces class ability cooldown. I play Hunter in PVP because of the dodge. It is a legit get out of jail free card. I won't use anything that reduces it's uptime 🤷♂️
well deserved nerfs holy shit people can complain titans were broken idgaf hunters were making pvp unplayable atleast you could still beat titans godamn
Yeah because going against the smg sniping titans for an entire year was so playable, Or the dunemarchers slam, or the no-you wards, or the infinite overshield bubble titans or- yeah no, y’all made it just as unplayable 😭
@@martincalcos7341 dunemarchers slam i get if you are shit at aiming at titans but no you wards werent that bad and neither was bubble the fact i go to punch a hunter and they dodge back and slow me and explode a threaded specter in my face and then continue to throw a smoke to stop me from even trying to escape and that does dmg overtime and then follow up with a swarm nade is pretty fucking broken again titans you can avoid, hunters once they get close your screwed so shutup you whiny little hunter main
@@martincalcos7341 also 2 you can easily avoid getting sniped and use the same smg the titan was using are you dumb
@@omelette9020 bruh the pot calling the kettle black is actually crazy with you. You wanna sit here and be like “wah wah hunter broken wah wah” but never want to take accountability for your own class. Thats the problem with this community, yall always wanna play victim. Titans were cancer for literal years but you just wanna say it wasnt that bad. Yall fucking made zone trials unplayable, please let’s not. 😭 😭 😭
@@martincalcos7341 made zone trials unplayable fuck out of here with that dont you forget well exists and still exists making it out like bubble was a massive issue there was so many ways to counter bubble like other ults and conditional finality, every hunter main are a fucking sooks bro the second hunters are broken in pvp you guys deny it and bring up old titan exotics that are unusable and then have a dig at people that complain that hunters are very broken and are quite literally making pvp unplayable there is not counter to prismatic hunter other then play prismatic hunter or uninstall destiny
All these CLOWNS 🤡 talking about Titans "getting off easy"!!! How many Titans were involved in the Day 1 Raid!? Don't worry, I'll wait...... 🤣
@The24soldier umm titans were involved what are you talking about? 3 finished in the top 50 teams in comparison to hunters 90+. Bungie should nerf the class even harder so to rid the game of the last 3 titans so it's just hunters and warlocks.
@@judgementkazzy7172I love good bait when I see it😂
@@trilligy1807 Right!?
Balance is impossible in this game tbh, at some point in time One of the three classes will have some dumb broken setup they can make use of in PvE and PvP.
You really had Reconstruction on that Handcanon though... 😂That poor hunter.😭😭
Hunter is nerfed because their prismatic kit only lacks that which is abused at high level play, that being movement. Solar Warlock competitively is the best, fast charging super which requires another to shut down, paired with the fastest movement and best in air gunplay. Void Titan takes the second spot, for fast but weak movement, and a fast but weaker super, but with better tools in their kit to change a bad situation in your favor. Hunter has strand, providing the most unpredictable movement, with radar manipulation, and a tool to punish inaccuracy.
Prismatic Hunter in comparison only misses on movement and in air gunplay. Fast roaming/shutdown super in storms edge and tether. Grenade wise it has grapple for chase down finishes, or swarm for area control/punishing. Smoke bomb is broken, being a free 1v1 or complete area denial for 10 seconds, also being refunded on dodge. And ALL of that procs stylish executioner, giving you vision through walls and radar manipulation. Then it's just a matter of what else you want, movement equal to stompees + cryoclasm slide in ascension, more radar manipulation with threaded specter, close range punish which feeds stylish executioner in winter's shroud, or gunpowder gamble for an undodgeable 100+ damage. Their kit simply has too many things working in conjunction without downside.
Why....
This is why I personally don't want to play the game anymore
I'm confused, prismatic hunter has been in severe need of a nerf in pvp and y'all are bitching because aspects/abilities that weren't even being used in PvE are getting nerfed? Calm down and just equip your caliban+syntho/liars class item it's not that deep.
We literally got a damage buff vs combatants on the threaded specter which arguably makes it more usable but we still whining
This video is basically my main complaint with Destiny these days. Started with Season of the Deep with Young Ahahmkara Spine, and just kept going. Some people say we have power crept like crazy and I ask, what power creep when we have been hitting for a fraction of our damage before, modding is a joke, and we got one-shot in Well even before the Final Shape nerf. Again, what power creep?
Why pve tho
As a Hunter main, nerfs like this is why I bag in Trials XD
two hunters two nerfs in hand I got no respect cuz I'm bungie got my shovel shoes full of players tears check out the tag the names Bungie
ok, the nerf was necessary though. Pve hunter was OP AF and PVP was still op not as much but, come on, they had smoke melee, swarm nade, threaded spectre, storms edge. It's like every pvp aspect in one lmao
Prismatic hunter in pve was balanced, but pvp was 100% justified. Solar hunter was still better due to healing grenades.
Nerf celestial bungie, that's all hunters ever use anyway. Like literally nothing else, and still hunt, both
You mean after it laid doormant for years? Yall never have anything to say about titans and warlocks.
It did get nerfed, though it is still very very very good
What do you mean nerf celestial? it literally recently got a 25% buff because it was so god damn weak without the surge bug helping it. It's a One shot super, it SHOULD do a lot of damage.
@@adub20ableprobably because we're not fucking overpowered idiot
4 year ago I started my account with stadia as a hunter, did 4 flawless dungeon runs, then I tried warlocks and titans they way more broken than hunters, now I just play warlock or titan because is easy they never get nerf
Prismatic hunter needs a buff in pve all we can really do is meele cause they gave us the worst meeles
Bruh i sincerely hope you are sarcastic? 😂. Prismatic hunter is the most busted class in entire destiny history with the best melee and all best abilities etc combined. Gtfoh. 😂 prismatic hunter absolutely need heavy nerfs for pve.
@@dvb8637 ehh idk maybe I don’t know much it I don’t like knife trick that much and all I see is arc punch maybe there’s something i don’t know
@@dvb8637First you warlocks and titan mains have screamed how hunters were weak for years but as soon as we get anything its "NeRf hUnTErS". Yall are a joke.
@@adub20ablegrow up
@@adub20ablewell because of final shape they got a giga buff. So yeah we are gonna call for nerfs. Same way we are calling for buffs for titans. Us warlocks just want balance. I personally prefer arc warlock(I’m no meta slave).
Last time hunters were broken was shatterdive. Compare to titans who had Antaeus wards, peace keepers, citans (for a short durstion) and a mobility exotic that damages people
This is why I switch to Warframe two weeks ago and haven’t even been tempted to touch d2
I tried warframe and when I saw that the frame I grinded for took 72 hours to craft, I deleted that garbage
@@ChaosTheaterr Dopamine issue
@@hypemaddox game design issue *
@@ChaosTheaterr Can say the same for the game with:
- Sunsetting but still bloated as hell
- Seemingly still doesn't understand balance 7yrs (lost count) into its lifecycle
- A gameplay loop that amounts to chasing a gun with 1% higher DPS than another or the same 6 perk combinations
- The seasonal model sorry "Echoes" that exists to just push FOMO
@@hypemaddox I agree lol idk what you were trying to do there
"Sir, titan and warlock are broken rn what should we do"
"let's nerf hunter for no reason"
“Broken” 😂 GTFOH
No reason he said lmao. 95% of PVP lobbies are prismatic hunters for a reason
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Well these nerfs are pretty soft tbh. They deserve and need far bigger nerfs, pve and pvp wise. Many people askt for a nerf on hunters for pve. No idea where you get that nonsens from that no one askt for it. Hunter made the titan class totaly absolete smh. Hunters deserved the nerfs. Especially on prismatic. But these nerfs are a joke. It still gonna make the titan absolete. I hope bungie soon comes with more and bigger nerfs on prismatic hunter.
Sounds like titan needs buffs then instead of murdering hunter which has been kinda mid for a long ass time until now 😮💨
So glad the hunters get to experience what d1 titans and d2 titans and warlocks had to deal with. The nerfing bullets hurt my bum.
You’re saying that as if hunters haven’t been getting fucked since the game was conceived
Hunters always got nerfed the most in D1 and early to mid D2. Idk what you are smoking. Warlocks got the least amount of nerfs in general.
@@FinalRush25I don't know what kind of crack you are smoking but hunters even with Nerfs were overpowered
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Good thing I'm playing Warframe now
Grats?
Im glad i ditched this game tbh
All the crybaby hunters are whining sway in their diapers….waaaaaaaaaa
Sad to say, the game is dead.
The game literally dying and they're nerfing things ROFL
If anything, they should be making things more exciting so people will stick around.
I have suspected for a while that top of Bungie are tired of and are trying to kill Destiny.
Well yknow in pvp prismatic hunters are being crucible down faster than ever. So they actually nerfed to keep modes like pvp interesting.
And this is just one more reason why Destiny 2 is dying