Grand Cherokee OWNERS: Replace the "lifetime" filter and fluid in your ZF 8HP Transmission Part 2
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This is part 2 of the ZF 8HP Transmission Fluid and Filter Change on a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee. This is the 8HP70 for the Hemi, but that variant shouldn't matter as it's the 8HP that the same.
I tear into the procedure learning and overcoming obstacles as they come as there's no video showing how to do so on the Grand Cherokee. I included links below to the products I purchased for this service, the rest of the tools I used were things I had already acquired along the road.
You will need the following tools:
13mm socket
15mm deep socket
8mm male hex socket
10mm male hex socket
T40 Torx socket
3" or so socket extension
Socket wrench
Breaker bar
Impact Driver (optional to speed up process)
General shop tools and supplies like jack, jack stands, gloves, towels, drain pan, patience
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You made a lot of mistskes in your fill procedures. The truck should not be leaning to the left. When you fill it cold it should only take about 2 and half quarts and start to run out, put the plug in. Then you start it and go through P,R,N,D 5 seconds each. Then while in drive with the wheels off the ground slowly take your foot off the brake accelerate to get into second gear hold 2nd gear for 5 seconds. Shift back to park rev to 2000 RPM hold for 5 seconds. With the truck still running, go back underneath pull the plug. Add more fluid if none runs out. Add fluid until it runs out and let it slow to a dribble. Put the plug back in. Go back in the truck go through the gear 5 second procedure again. Now you can leave it on jacket stands running until it gets up to about 175 degrees trans temp (will take an hour plus if it's cool outside) so the bypass vavle opens or you can jack it down and go for a drive to get it up to temperature. Once it gets up pass 175 trans temp. Let it cool all the way back down (overnight or several hours). Then start the vehicle let the trans temperature reach between 88 and 122 degrees. Pull the trans plug again if fluid runs out let it get to a dribble put the plug in your done. If it doesn't run out add more until it does run out let it get to a dribble put the plug in your done. This is the correct way to do the fluid check. The vehicle should be level left to right and front to back. The transmission does not need to be level the vehicle does. That came straight from ZF. Ask yourself if a dealer did this how would they use a lift and have the back higher than the front or the vehicle leaning to the left on a lift. Hope this helps everyone.
The transmission felt better than it did after I bought it 40k miles earlier so it seems all of the mistakes you pointed out that I made didn’t really add up to anything. Thank you for your explanation though.
It says to have the transmission level not the vehicle.
@johnsn10 So explain how a dealership or transmission shop would do that on a car lift 🙄? What I said is correct watch the video from the transmission manufacturer that's on UA-cam. No one is leaning the vehicle or leveling the transmission. Being taken way to literal by people that don't know what they are doing.
How many jack stands should I have under my car? I have (2) 3 Ton Jack Stands, and 2 Car Jack's.
My car's front wheels are currently on 2 ramps.
Will the 2 stands plus 2 Jack's be safe to run through the gears with the car off of ground?
@ZxSkyLineKidxZ You really need 4 jack stands because you need to be able to go under the truck to check the fluid. Not really safe to go under the trick on just jacks alone. And you can't use the ramps because it's all wheel drive so all the wheels have to be off the ground. See if a friend has two stands you can barrow if you don't want to buy more.
adding a note. for first-timers it's better to measure what came out first, then put the same amount of fluid back. assuming that there are no previous fluid leaks in the trans. later in about 1 week do it again because not all fluid comes out when removing the trans pan. around half of the fluid remains inside the torque and internal parts of the trans. eventually, the majority of fluid will be replaced in two shots easier rather than complicate your 1hr job. and yes keep your car elevated some how leveled.
Great tips! Thanks!
Great job! Thanks for being transparent and showing us what to expect if we take this on. I live in Manchester and also have a 14 5.7 Overland.
Hey neighbor! Glad to help! Maybe see you around some time 😁
Yep after seeing you make two videos on this you have thoroughly convinced me I'm just going to pay to get this one done. Much appreciated Thanks for taking the bullet
Great video. Thanks for posting. Some cheap wobble extensions from Home Depot or Harbor Freight might be a worthwhile purchase for anyone else looking to do this. Great idea using the pump sprayer over a more professional type tool that does the same thing for a lot more money. I have one and honestly it just sits around collecting dust now. The pump sprayer actually looks more convenient. Cutting the nozzle off the tip so itll fully insert into the fill opening, and using a heat gun to bend a 45 or 90 a few inches down from the tip of that wand (to keep everything away from the exhaust) seems like a good 2 minute investment for future. I just picked up a 2019 Limited so I’m trying to learn all the maintenance before i need to do anything. This was a big help, Thank you.
Great video series. After watching, I paid the dealer to do it. $750. 2018, 92,000 miles, no problems, just preventative maintenance.
It certainly sucked haha I don't blame you for that!
I burnt my hand and done it by myself :D
I’ll probably have it done professionally also. I don’t have the tools or equipment, and I have a bad back.
One of my local dealers here in Southern California said nah. Which one did yours?
@@walkyourbikelocal guy in MA. Bill Deluca in Haverhill, MA
Thank you Steve, with your video I was able to do the whole job. In my case, only used 5.3 liters (same that came out).
Great videos! Very helpful! And entertaining. We need a sense of humor when we're working on these modern FCA Jeeps.🔧
Thanks for watching and I appreciate the feedback! I try to add some humor into the mix as that's how I am in real life but some times it they're just crickets bad haha!
Another great vid. Def made me decide to get this done at the dealer though. I can easily see myself jacking this one up!
Yeah this was a huge pain but saved a ton. I just don’t feel like feeding the stealership!
@@iambigsteveo Yeah only plus side with dealer is they have the computer to verify how much fluid is inside the unit precisely
Love what you have on your license plate. Great name!
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Thanks for the video, I'm about to do this on my wk2
Awesome! Good luck!
One thing to remember is 8.7 quarts is the capacity of the entire system... when you drain and remove pan you only get out about 4 quarts... the oil left in the cooling lines and torque converter remains...
This makes sense! Thanks for sharing!
Yes. It only takes about 4 liters.
I had jeep dealer service do it for me and they only used 3 quarts out of 9 I left them. Should I be worried or is is possible that it only drained 3 quarts?
Than, even if it was 4, now I see why they say it’s filled for life. You won’t change that fluid unless you take off the transmission. What’s the point of just mixing some old fluid with some new. If I knew that I wouldn’t bother.
@@jacekmadej34 that means they only did a drain and fill.... the entire system holds 8.7 liters but when you drain just the pan... your not getting the fluid out of the torque converter or cooling lines.... ect. I wouldn't be "worried" about that but be aware that it's not all the fluid. The bigger question is did the dealership put a new pan on (which is where the filter is) and IMO is important to change. Here is a link to a pretty informative video that explains alot. ua-cam.com/video/F7MaXLwWQik/v-deo.html
You make good points. I will say though the fluid does get dirty and the magnets in the pan do catch impurities so replacing the pan/filter makes a lot of sense. And since some fluid is drained to drop the pan, might as well replace the fluid that came out so it’s more fresh than just putting the old stuff back in.
Hi, can you help me get the repair manual for a 2012 Grand cherokee? I appreciate your help.
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Hi, the bypass valve is an important part of the oil level check procedure, which usually is a part of the documentation of the delivered by ZF oil pan. What you did is only a filling in procedure, but not the oil level check one. ZF recommends to change the oil between 80-100.000 km (not miles) or 8 years, which occures first. The bypass valve opens at 75°C and than you should proceed with a similar procedure like the one described in the filling in one. After the first change at 80.000-100.000 km it is better to refresh it after 50.000 by changing the pan incl. The filter.
EN DONDE SE ENCUTRA DICHA VALVULA DE DERIVACION AMIGO?
But 75 degrees Celsius to out of the range for correct fluid level check.
@@genepierson1728 yes, the zf instructions actually state to overfill by 0.5L.
I read this too, but I've seen several people (commenting on Ram trucks, which I would presume have the same design as this Jeep for our purposes) use a 3-way bypass valve, which means there is always some fluid in the cooler, and we don't have to worry about this step. I haven't confirmed this, though several have said it. If true, it could explain why this step is omitted from the Chrysler procedure (of course, ineptitude is equally likely, so it's why I'm still looking for clarity)
@@NinjasOfOrca of course,it is up to you and actually it is not taking so much time to perform this step. I stick to what the OEM is recomanding and I am happy for now.
Jeep GC has a thermostat on the transmission lines, after the initial fill and level check, I recheck the fluid level after running the trans to full operating temp 190, the following day ill put it on jack stands again and run another level check, typically find it needs another 1/2 quart on the final check.
Good tips, thanks!!
Bypass opens at 160 degrees let it run until it hits that temp on jack stands then shut it down and wait until the next morning and restart it let it get into the check temp range and add more fluid until it runs out and slows to a dribble.
Nice video man! I'm about to do this on my 2014 GC. Quick question... What exhaust are you running on that bad boi?
Hey man! It’s a Frankenstein if I’m honest. Took it to a muffler shop for some work and after several visits changing it around, I settled with 8” cherry bombs before an x-pipe where the suitcase muffler was, and thrush turbo mufflers in the back where the stock resonators were with 5” burnt tips out the bumper. Looks nasty, not as nasty sounding as I want. I want to change it up but need to prioritize my projects around.
Good luck with your trans service, hope this helps you.
Hey Tomas, if you’re curious, I changed my exhaust setup to a Corsa some couple months ago and it’s absolutely amazing. I made a video about it, check it out!
Do you know the torque requirement for the fill plug? Thanks for the videos, they will be a lot of help for my upcoming service!
Off hand, I am not entire sure. I think the german measurement of Gudentite (good and tight) will be sufficient. Removing the fill plug was definitely a chore so I don't believe it's a small amount of torque.
I drained the transmission fluid instead of the oil during my oil change attempt. I’m hoping to try this before having to pay a huge dealership fee. Thank you!
*It’s a 2020 Grand Cherokee Laredo
Woops! I hope all this worked out for you in the end!
😄😄😄 nice one Sydney 👌🏻
I'm at 215k on my 2016. Haven't changed it yet.
When I do a transmission service I always measure what I drained out and only put that amount back in and then check it to see if it's full, just a tip. Good videos!
That's a great tip and didn't think of that until after the fact. Will be doing that going forward for sure!
your d brain wont consider the amount of fluid thats evaporated in 10-15 years?
Pretty sure that capacity of fluid is if you had to fill all lines and the torque converter. Those do not drain by simply dropping the pan
This makes sense! Thanks for sharing!
Cool video! I have 2012 Grand Cherokee V6 without a dipstick and need to figure out how to add transmission fluid to it. Hopefully easier than this.
This trans, I wish they included a dipstick. But you’re going to need to perform the whole circus act I encountered with the fluid at temp, the various steps of gear selections and engine speed, and then check level. It’s rough for sure but it beats paying the stealership at $150+/hr. Woof.
Scratch that. You don’t have the same trans as what’s in the 14+. Yeah not sure on your model. Hopefully it’s an easier procedure.
Yeah, the W5A580 transmission and there is a place for a dipstick! What scan tool did you use to get ATF temp?
My GC has the upgraded EVIC so it displays there. Yours might also, but it’s the smaller display. If not give any reputable Bluetooth OBD2 scanner a try from Amazon, I like BlueDriver and it’s matching app, and download an app like OBD Fusion which can pull your temp among many other live stats.
The missing step from every video I've seen so far is that the trans pan needs to be level for proper fill. The rear end will need to be lifted. There is also the fact that 9.5qt is total system capacity as others have mentioned.
The rear end was lifted, and it was close to the front, but I'm pretty sure the whole vehicle wasn't level so I may be running a little too much or too little. Haven't had any problems since I did the job so fingers crossed!
I called ZF and spoke with a tech. He told me, if your car or truck is sitting on level ground, it is in fact level for the transmission fluid level check procedure.
Can you tell me how many liters you used transmission fluid please?
It took about 5 quarts to fill it. They sell 6 quart packs online so I'd suggest going that route and keep any left over as backup if you need to top off down the road sometime.
My understanding is that Mopar uses a bypass valve that never allows the cooler to be empty. Haven't been able to confirm this, but the concern of the guy in that other video may be addressed by the design. Second point is that I don't think you ever will get all 8 quarts drained unless you did a flush (which ZF doesn't advise). The torque converter is going to hold onto some of the oil - 5 - 6 quarts is about what I've heard. Did you measure what came out to compare against what went in?
I didn’t think to measure it to be honest [slaps face].
Great video i have sent my 2014 to the dealer to change the transmission oil but they refused to do so they claimed that it’s a lifetime
Ugh. Tell them ZF who makes the transmission even says it’s not lifetime 🙄
Nice wheels what kind is that and what all terrain tire is that
I went with replica WK SRT wheels in black, 20x9 and the tires are Nitto Terra Grappler G2's, OEM size.
Se proteja y sale una leyenda dar servicio a la transmision
My apologies Oscar, I don’t speak Spanish and the translation doesn’t make much sense.
Mis disculpas Oscar, no hablo español y la traducción no tiene mucho sentido.
I just saw you’re from New Hampshire, Im in mass🙄, I would like to change my 2016 grand Cherokee trans oil, if you actually work for other people cars I would definitely take it to you.. you know what you doing
Thanks man! I do some friends cars here and there and help out, but I don't do this stuff freelance. Maybe you can give it a go from what you learned!
Did the pan come with a gasket? Did you have to purchase one separately?
The pan comes with a gasket but I didn’t realize until it arrived. I had also ordered a gasket separately but ended up returning it as it was not needed.
What is that big secret reason behind Jeep saying this is a lifetime oil , no need for servicing, and ZF the manufacturer of the transmission saying it rather needs oil change at 100.000 km? Did Jeep add any special additive to the transmission oil that allows it last forever ?
I think it's more of marketing terminology. What is considered lifetime? I think when they say "Lifetime," they mean for the life you own the vehicle from new, so like up to 80k-100k miles. I'm guessing, I could be wrong though. I don't believe there's anything special they've added to the fluid.
Where did you get the pan from ??
Hey Beast, I got the pan from Amazon, check out the video description to links for all pertinent stuff from the video!
tengo un 300c 2013 motor 3.6 y me arroja el codigo error P1DC7-00 PUEDE SER QUE SEA PORQUE REQUIERE EL SERVICIO DE LA TRANSMICION ???
Si recibe este código, lo mejor que puede hacer es llevarlo a un distribuidor o taller de confianza para que revisen el vehículo. Una mirada rápida en línea y parece que podría haber varios problemas para causar que se arroje el código P1DC7-00. ¡Buena suerte!
Your best bet is if you are receiving this code, is to bring it to a reputable dealer or trustworthy shop to get the vehicle looked over. A quick look online and it appears it could be any number of issues to cause the P1DC7-00 code to be thrown. Good luck!
ive heard you never get all the fluid out when draining. i did that on my 88 jeep cherokee . i drained it and put back what was required , and test drove it, i blew fluid out the dip stick . live and learn made a real mess on the engine
Hey Steve, where did you print out the instructions from?
Hey John, I grabbed it from someone who linked it to me from a Dropbox account. It's still live but I cannot guarantee it will be up forever.
www.dropbox.com/s/r8pry1plwlcbdow/Jeep_GC_2014_-2016_Repair_Manual%281%29.pdf
@@iambigsteveo thank you so much but holy crap so many pages!!! Do you remember what pages were the transmission
@@thahairyturk19 you’re welcome! Off the top of my head I do not. I’d have to search again. If you use a PDF reader like Adobe Reader, the sections are in a Table Of Contents which helps locate what you are looking for.
You did not display fill or drain plugs or bolts????
I did in part one.
Hi im no mechanic and i have some doubts i have a grand cherokee laredo 2015 and the trasmission cooler is leaking trasmission oil and the mechanic said that he has to empty the a/c gas so he can remove the old transmission cooler?
Yes that is actually correct. The A/C condenser doubles as the transmission cooler so in order to fix the transmission cooler leak, the refrigerant needs to be removed from the system so the condenser/cooler can be replaced.
@@iambigsteveo thanks
Can you just replaced the fluid without doing the filter/pan
Yes you can, but I figure if you are going to spend the money, you might as well replace the filter as well to extend the life of the fluid you just spent a lot on the expensive fluid.
Do you think I can use Toyota seal 103 ? Cause mine leaked again.
I’m not sure what you mean. Can you explain in more detail?
Awesome video brother, it sucks that they made this process a pain in the ass, love my 2017.
It was a pain but I’m happy to do the exploratory work and share my experience so others hesitant to do the work know what to expect, and then make the judgment call to do the work themselves or to have someone else do it. I’m just an average dude that’s very capable who likes doing diy jobs and sharing what I learned. I love my 2014 too, it’s the vehicle I’ve owned the longest out of all of my vehicles and I haven’t thought once about getting rid of it. She’s a pain and needs work but I love wrenching and it’s match made in heaven lol. If anything I will keep add a two door rwd sports car and keep this as a daily that I’ll probably supercharge lol.
I'm thinking of doing mine, the dealership said they don't do this service, that's crazy
How often to change the transmission fluid?
It really all depends on driving style. If you are hard on your vehicle, you will want to change it sooner, but if you are easier on it, you can go longer. The transmission manufacturer states it should be changed 80,000 miles (I believe 80k miles, it's been a bit since I have looked it up) but it could have been 80,000 kilometers or less.
Do you recall how much fluid you took out? I am just curious because my fluid leaked out and I added some, pretty much the same way you did. Just not sure how much fluid was lost. It drive fine except it didn’t shift to 3rd when accelerating full throttle this one time and down shifting is more noticeable.
I don't remember how much fluid came out exactly but I may still have the bottles I used to store the old fluid, I will check later today. It was somewhere around 4-5 quarts that came out though.
Mechanic is doing this one
Has anyone who’s ever done the oil change in the pan change on this eight speed automatic experience slipping even though you know you have the proper fluid levels at the proper temperature? Thank you in advance
This seems like there may be an underlying issue that is unrelated to the fluid. Is the slipping happening in all “gears?” If so it could be something with the torque converter. It could even be the clutch’s inside the trans handling each speed. Definitely something worth investigating some more. Good luck!!
Everyone seems to make this mistake, the PAN needs to be level but the truck. If you have the truck level the actual pan isn’t which causes you to be about a quart under. Tons of people have had this exact issue, leveled the pan which basically means jacking the rear up 10” while leaving the nose on the floor and then adding more.
@stevehenaire742 This is wrong no shop is doing that. The vehicle just has to be level. How would a shop do that on a lift, it's going to make the truck level not the transmission. ZF says the vehicle has to be level. His truck in this video should not be leaning to the left to fill it makes the checks inaccurate.
Can I just replace the filter or do I need to buy a new pan?
The filter is build into the pan, which is kind of annoying if you ask me since you need to drop the pan and replace it. I'm sure some company out there has made a pan where you can change just the filter but that would certainly not be stock.
How many kilometres you changed? My 2014 grand Cherokee is 150,000km haven’t change yet. Where you buy the pan and fluid from? How’s your drive feeling after you change the fluid? Thank you so much!
Hi there! I did this work around 105,000 miles which is about 168,000 km plus or minus a bit. I included links in the description of the video, I got them from Amazon since the prices were pretty reasonable and delivered to me at no cost. As far as how it drives, it feels great! I’d say it feels no different that it did prior to the change but it’s peace of mind knowing it’s got cleaner fluid in the system with a fresh filter.
@@iambigsteveo Thanks a lot to your videos! Does your transmission works better after you change the fluid ? My transmission is little bit slip when downshifting form 4th to 3rd gears. Does your transmission have same problem?
@@user-fk2oo7ne5n honestly I doesn’t feel any different than it did before I did this work. No slipping at all in any gear. Changing the fluid and filter may help but if not then you may be facing another underlying issue unrelated to the fluid, like the torque converter going or the clutch pack prematurely wearing.
Hey, mine is leaking oil, i can see oil on the bottom part of the an. Would you recommend change the whole pan and gasket or just the gasket?
If you are certain it's not a leak from somewhere else, then the gasket is bad. Considering the job in its entirety, I would suggest replacing the pan because it has a new seal and it has a new filter. Might as well do it all while it's all apart is the way most would look at it. And replace the fluid too. Basically, do what I did haha.
I double checked, when I turn it on I see drops of fluid from the torx bolts comming out
Sounds like a candidate for replacing! Good luck!
Do you have to change the pan every time you do this?!
It probably wouldn’t hurt to change the filter/pan each time the fluid is changed, but realistically, you’re not doing this often, maybe only once while you own the vehicle unless you keep it forever and continue to drive it over the maintenance intervals.
U mnie weszło 5.2 litra oleju ZF miska wypoziomowana. Tył auta uniesiony. Czy to normalne?
I would say that whatever came out, that same amount should go back in. So it 5.2 L came out, then 5.2 L should go back in.
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Powiedziałbym, że cokolwiek wyszło, ta sama ilość powinna wrócić. Więc wyszło 5,2 l, a potem 5,2 l powinno wrócić.
DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE P1CD7-00 CODE THERE IS NO INFORMATION ON THE INTERNET?
Tal como mencioné en mi respuesta anterior, llévelo a un distribuidor acreditado o tienda confiable para que revisen el vehículo. No puedo encontrar nada relacionado con ese código, tal vez ese código pueda tener una referencia cruzada con otro problema que pueda estar enfrentando.
Just like I mentioned in my previous reply, bring it to a reputable dealer or trustworthy shop to get the vehicle looked over. I can't find anything relating to that code, perhaps that code can be cross referenced to another issue you might be facing.
@IAmBigSteveo Hi, can you help me get the repair manual for a 2012 Grand cherokee? I appreciate your help.
Hi Jorge, this is the only doc I have, part 1 of 2. The link is hosted on someone else’s Dropbox and I am not held liable if the link contains false information or if the link is removed. Good luck!
www.dropbox.com/s/2eeq5k7dgox486a/Jeep_GC_WK2_2011-2013%20Part%201%20%28Corrected%29.pdf?dl=0&fbclid=IwAR27NsGhpCWFa9MxIkKh6UozaFdywvuxW6SVthZUJfdVP0bEL9yfkc1a6Yo
Part 2 of 2
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@@iambigsteveo Thank you very much you are very kind. This will help me a lot. Out of curiosity, on which website can these repair manuals be found? Thanks again 😃
@@JorgeRamirez-dj7lp they’re not normally something you can find online, I happened to be lucky and someone shared me the links to them and they are hosted on someone’s personal Dropbox cloud storage made for public download. I hope that answers your question.
Have u ever had a delayed shift from first to second, only after the first drive of the day or if it sits for a while?
My 15 Jeep SRT does that. Only does it once and then goes fine.
@@mikeyg21780 have u ever taken it to the stealership? And if so what did they tell u?
@@froggerman44 I didn’t mention it to them. It seems not concerning at all.
danm that’s happening to me too, just recently. If you guys find a solution please let me know
Fortunately that hasn't happened to me before. It might be worth checking the fluid level just to be certain.
What made you change it?
I was noticing a slight audible “zipping” sound like gears turning in a transmission. Who would have thought? Well, automatics don’t really have gears like manual transmissions do, I’m very familiar with a whiny transmission from my ‘05 sti with an upgraded transmission mount and trans cross member bushings. That 6 speed was looouuud and awesome. But what I heard was much more faint than my sti but I still heard it and shouldn’t have considering auto trans’ like the ZF 8HP use planetary gears and for the most part the whole unit should be silent. I spent some time researching and decided I wanted to change it and with no video online explaining how to do it, I decided to make an exploratory DIY video while I did the work. And that my friend is why I changed it. I hope that helps!
When running through the process inside the car, was it on the stands the whole time??
In drive, 2nd gear at 2k for 10 seconds - how did the car go on the stands??
Yup! It was on jack stands the whole time I ran through the gear selector procedure. It ran fine on the stands, with the traction control light off, the wheels turned with no issue and no codes were thrown from it.
And i need someone to teach me about that engineering
Where is the filter? Is it made in the pan 🤔
The filter is built into the bottom of the pan.
PPE makes an aluminum replacement pan that has a replacement filter. $300
A pan with a replacement filter is a good idea. When I found out I had to replace the whole pan because of a non-replaceable filter, I was shocked. Though, you need to wager how often you want to replace the filter, given they are good for 80k-ish miles, the 2nd filter replacement will be your breakeven but will ever get to that point? Just something to consider.
Where did you get those instructions
Scour the comments, I shared a link in a reply somewhere in here.
Found it haha thanks 🤘🏽
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What about filling it up with an electric pump that would make a lot more sense and it would go in a lot faster but great video
in your opening sequence when you opened your fill plug too much fluid came out, so that was indicative of not having the vehicle level like the instructions want. you can't totally get these transmissions to drain so only putting in 6 quarts sounds about right, torque converter etc was still full, along with the cooling system.
Yeah. I agree. Thinking about it afterwards this makes complete sense. Thanks for the info!
@@iambigsteveo I've got this exact same service coming up on my power wagon so your video popped up in the feed today lol!! Nice job!
💪🏻💪🏻 Thanks man! Hope the video helps you get though your service!
Differing definitions of a "lifetime" for many. 150k miles? 250k? Just wondering if it will shift better with new fluid. Put 261k on my 2011 JGC.
Thanks for the information, also u have only drained half the fluid, the rest is still in lines an torque converter, in case any one is wondering it should only take about half the fluid do to that fact . Thanks again
is you grand cherokee a 3.6 or 8 version i wondering if the fluid type is different than mine ?
I didn't realize it at the time but I believe the 3.6 6cyl uses a different transmission than what the 8cyl uses.
I must admit I've never seen transmission fluid dark like that in my life
It was dark I agree, but it was also a dark green when fresh so it's deceivingly dark for what it really is.
So bring to a shop. Got it. 👍🏼
It’s a ton of work for sure. If you have the cash and time to leave it at the shop for a day or so by all means. I’m handy so I figured I’d share my experience so others can give it a go.
@@iambigsteveo The more you can do for yourself the better off you are these days. You never know how qualified the dealership is nor do you know how expensive the parts & labor are until you get the final bill from them. I try to do as much of the maintenance as I can but I'm not getting younger and sometimes I just don't have the strength I had when I was 20. :)
Dealership wants $1,000 for a transmission fluid and filter change. That was 5 years ago. Probably $1,200 now.
The dealer may perform a flush rather than a drain, fill and replace so there's probably some additional value to their service but that is still a steep price for sure.
Just drain it, measure the oil amount and install same amount of new..do every 30k. No need to replace the pan.
Am Jacob and i have some ideas about what you have doing
ZF says the fluid is good for 80 - 120 k Kilometers not miles. Last time I checked...
Thanks for the clarification!
The transmission mount is crusty. Time for new mount.
Yup, I had replaced it after I did this service. I didn’t have the time or chance to record that job but it was easy. No more than 45 minutes and that job was complete.
1 issue I see here is that you're incorporating some air bubbles into the trans fluid with your garden sprayer. I personally would figure a way to put Air pressure in the tank with out using the pump. Maybe an air chuck & a regulator set to vary low pressure. Instead of adding air below the fluid level.
This is a good point. It didn’t issue to me at the time about the air bubbles. I’m sure it’s not something to be too concerned about, if bubbles are introduced to the fluid, they will rise (albeit slowly), and where the pick up tube for the sprayer’s wand is all the way at the bottom of the tank, there’s probably not a lot of bubbles being introduced into the transmission while it’s being pumped up there.
But taking the fill plug out won't let any of the air bubbles out that you pumped in with the fluid pump
There are a couple of correct videos on how to do this correctly.
Is one of them yours?
There is absolutely nothing about this online! I don’t understand. As if dealerships needed more $$$$ ☠️
That is why I wanted to share my experience so others can benefit from it. If I can do it, so can you!
Hello hi
im pretty sure 10 nm is less than ten lbs. i think it should be 8.9 lbs
Thanks for the correction!
Should have used a level.
Probably!
What a horror show, I would probably pay the dealer!I know it would be costly
It was a PITA for sure!
Man this was painful to watch… did you research the procedure at all before you just jumped into it?? About 8 times longer than it needed to be, and using a wood block on a Jack like that, damn dude. You have a death wish. 👀
Thanks for the view and your comment!
It had to be done.
You did it wrong lmao. Dont make youtube videos. Your going to ruin peopls cars. Get on alldata or mitchell and get the correct procudure. You never got it out of your coolers or tourque converter
I appreciate your kind words and honesty. While I didn’t get the fluid out of the cooler lines and tc, the work I did won’t “ruin peoples cars.” It’s up to the person to do the work and they would ruin their own car based on your logic. I’m already thinking of new videos to make that will ruin peoples cars, so, have a nice day!
You don't have to if you're doing a basic transmission service. Transmission service involves changing the filter and refilling the pan. A transmission flush is what you're referring to.