Tapping Essentials - Every Machinist Needs to Watch This - Haas Automation Tip of the Day
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- Опубліковано 3 кві 2019
- Have you ever grabbed a tap out of your toolbox and wondered if it was the right tool for the job? Or tapped a hole only to find out that the threads aren't deep enough? Or worse yet, broken a tap? Chances are, the answer is yes to one or all of these questions!
In this Tip of the Day video, Mark goes deep into the art of tapping, giving you valuable insight into which tap to use, and when to use it. Whether you are a beginner or advanced machinist, you will definitely learn something from this video.
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This is what I call explanation. Very clear explained, could not be better.
Totally agree with you ☝🏼☝🏼☝🏼.
Best explanation ever.
Great information. Thank you
Excellent video for a hobbyist.
Didn't think he was going to mention Japan. Not gonna lie feels good to be recognized.
Taper tap here is called "先タップ" (Saki-tap) meaning pointed tap. Also numerically referred to as"1番タップ"
Plug tap is called "中タップ" (Naka-tap) meaning middle tap. Also called "2番タップ"
Bottoming here is called "上げタップ" (Age-tap) meaning raised tap. Also called "3番タップ"
Straight tap is called "ハンドタップ" (handotappu) which just means hand tap.
Spiral point tap is called "ポイントタップ" (pointotappu) which just means point tap
Spiral flute tap is called "スパイラルタップ" (supairarutappu) which just means spiral tap.
Thanks for the great content!
dude you should consider giving japanese lessons. open a channel!
@@DogDog173 Thank you, but there are people who can do much better jobs than me. Vtubers are good resources if you are looking for authentic Japanese. Kiryu Coco sometimes speaks both English and Japanese, so you could start from there. ua-cam.com/channels/S9uQI-jC3DE0L4IpXyvr6w.htmlvideos
@@DogDog173 I actually do have a channel, but it's for programming and tech. Here is the link if you are interested. ua-cam.com/channels/CIq1eBCBmaBqOpIfVWE32w.html
That was very interesting. Thank you. FWIW, OSG from Japan is the largest tap manufacturer in the world. I use some of their taps.
Also the cross-section examples blew me away. Incredible effort! This style of teaching should be a staple in any shop class or engineering curriculum.
This is the type of stuff that should be taught in high schools. Easy, informative and useful.
I hope Haas knows that these videos actually sell Haas machines. I know more than a few people that have decided to buy a Haas because of these great videos. Great video and presentation Mark!
Sophat Ngim
So true,
The other guys better pay attention.
Sophat Ngim AvE is one of them ;)
They doing a great job on following there customers
Sophat Ngim - Thanks for the kind post. There is a whole team of us here making videos, and it makes our day when we are able to help our customers with just the right topic, script, graphics, edit. Thanks again. - Mark, Haas Tip-of-the-day
totally agree.
I have learned more about taps in this video than in forty years of hand taping stuff.
And this video and Marks great diction is top notch, Thanks
cause 40 years ago you probably didn't have a Haas cnc.
@@edmundooliver7584 dude, this comment is 2 years old.
@@edmundooliver7584 neither 40 years ago or 40 years from now. Nobody has cnc at home. Straight hand taps are all you need for home anyway
This was a super informative video. Well done!
Awesome to see you here!
Well what do you know. Video about tapping coming up? ;)
Ayeee Destin!
inb4 Smarter every day about cnc machines
Seems like a video is in the making for you Dustin😀
Wow - that was the gold-standard of instructional videos! Nice pace, concise explanations, clear examples and demonstrations!
I know how painstaking it is to make a video like this. And the 3D graphics are awesome. One of the best tutorials over the net I must say. Please keep up the good work. I'll recommend your channel to my group of hobbyists too.
I'm in the UK, and I would call them Taper, Second, and Plug. Thanks for these great video's.
As a former cutting tool company rep, I consider this to be one of the best tutorials on the subject of tap performance and selection that I have ever seen. The examples and illustrations make understanding some of the issues with tap selection and threading holes much more understandable. While there have been countless books written on the subject this 13-minute video is a perfect primer for those interested in making the right tap choice for the job. The basic rule of thumb as the instructor mentions is use a tap that pushes the chips down and out of a through hole or one that pulls the chips up and out of a blind hole. If you are stuck using a tap that pushes the chips forward and down into a blind hole you can "peck feed" the tap in multiple steps into and out of the hole along with using either compressed air or high coolant flow to flush the accumulated chips up and out of the hole until you achieve full thread depth.
This is the way every teacher of any subject should have been explained the subject
Well I definitely just learned a lot about taps. All very useful info, thanks.
well you might know why you are here but i dont know why i am... back to ave or maybe that manx guy
@@frogz try checking the guy above out he has many good videos on electronics as well.
Now all u gotta do is just tap tap dat a$$ ! I mean, hole ! lol xD
in germany we call them gewinde schneider but the streight one is usualy used here in germany and all 3 types of them getting used for each hole getting thedded
Learning has occurred this day. Exceptionally informative video
- presented in high production quality at that.
Excellent tutorial. Clear, direct and to the point, without going into grandma's kidney stone procedure. Wonderful explanations!
Very handy video, thanks!
I'm in the UK. Hobby mechanic and I usually call most styles of tap "dirty f*ing broken piece of s*t b*stard".
Taps are called that all over the world, just the accent or language changes😂
AKA Tourette's taps....
It’s amazing, I’m in the USA and use those terms.
Hey, what a coincidence, same exact term in Australia.
I learned drilling and tapping in the '80's. My Son is a welder and he not only didn't know about tapered-straight-bottoming taps, and their uses. He was shocked that I did.
I recently bought 2 new double sets in SAE and METRIC tapered-straight.
He wanted to borrow a tap for one of his side jobs. It ended up being a half hour lesson in the different types of taps, oil and water based cutting fluids and their cleanup.
Sometimes I feel that he believes that I'm making things up.
Will be forwarding this video to him.
It's nice to know that something I learned over 35 years ago is still relevant.
I am amazed on how incredible informative this video was. This is what makes UA-cam worth watching. Thank you.
I think everyone in my mechanical engineering course should watch this video. Too many dont have any practical knowledge
Those informations are all out in the internet, but no one can present it as easy and compact as you do. Information and entertainment on another level, Mark is the best!!!
Hello from germany! :P I think, this will twist your tongue, but bottoming taps in germany are called Sacklochgewindebohrer :D Sackloch = blind hole, Gewindebohrer = tap
I speak zero German, but the word for tap looks a helluva lot like "windy (winding) borer" which actually makes sense
At my work place here in Australia we use Hahnreiter taps. You Germans know how to make a great tap! They are awesome!
It gets crazier, for example, ball screw nut is Kugelgewindeumlaufspindelmutter.
Matt B The word Gewindebohrer consists of the two words Gewinde and Bohrer. Gewinde is the word for thread (In a way calling threads “winds”) and the word Bohrer is used for drills and boring tools. So you’re right on!
@@ChristophPech As a British person, and with the English language partly derived from Anglo-Frisian settlers in the 5th -7th century. The long technical German words are incredible. I now write technical operator manuals for Friction Welding machines, and they are translated in many languages, as per customer language. I have to allow 40% more text when being translating to German, 30% for Swedish, 20% for French and Spanish, and MINUS 80% for Chinese.
Ich hoffe, du hast ein schönes Osterfest (google translation) sorry.
Excellent video! I've been a machinist for 43 years and I learned something from this. You presented the information in a way that made it easy for anyone to understand. Keep up the great work and I will definitely be watching more of your videos!
This video reminds me of the clarity of those old Bill Nye The Science Guy videos i grew up watching. Amazing work.
Gosh, i've learn more in 10 minutes with this video than 10 years working in welding shops
This is easily the best video I have ever seen on the subject.
I have never used a tap before in my life, but after watching this awesome little video, I feel like I have a qualified certification in taps! This guy is a teaching jedi! VERY well done!
Possibly the best explanation ever in the history of anything.
I came here to just make sure I had the correct saying for the wording of "tapping, tapped, taps." Instead I enjoyed the video and the information. Even though I may not use this in my life, the information is valuable.
I've learned more from this channel than I have in my entire machining apprenticeship
Same here , I work in a cnc shop and my boss is not a very good teacher so these videos are amazing for me. I've been there 2 and a half years now and didn't know much about taps. Learned a lot of different things from these videos
I can only begin to imagine the amount of preparation that went into the making of this video, as well as the technique and the craftsmanship to deliver all the physical samples. Only a set of really skilled, really passionate people sharing the same set of values can pull something like this.
FINALLY, A video showing the proper functioning of a tap.! THANK YOU !
5 YEARS MACHINING EXPERIENCE AND IM JUST NOW LEARNING ABOUT THIS! HOLY SHIT YOU LEARN SOMETHING NEW EVERYDAY LOVE THIS INDUSTRY!
One of my less than capable corporal aircraft engine mechanics broke off a tap in a burner nozzle flange, broke a HSS drill in the hole trying to drill it out, broke a cobalt drill trying to drill that out, then came and told me. There was a wheat grain size lump left in the hole. He asked if I can remove it. My first question was why did you not call me when the screw was tight. Then the next 60 questions flowed like, where did the swarf go? What condition do you think the threads are in now, and yes i can fix it, by doing an engine change.
Heli-coil. Many aircraft parts have heli-coil in first place.
best to shatter it, and out it will come ,then re tap it.
Spark erosion is the safest way to get a broken tap out in an expensive part.
I fix everything.... if it was made it can be remade better... either tube drill a larger hole tap that insert a larger bolt that you can drill and tap ... or grind out ... or just replace all the metal with welding.... then drill and tap or one of the many other ways to skin that cat... maybe you should hire me lol
What's the hourly ... my favorite thing is fixing what fuck ups fuck up... just depends on what is allowed by standards ....
@@jolllyroger1 Now, the only problem is, he's talking aircraft repair. One cannot just take any bolt and throw in there, or go one size up to fit the new treads cut. It doesn't work that way. Every part has a number and precise specifications and one is not allowed to tamper with these things.
This video is incredibly well made. Very clearly explained and excellent use of both physical and graphic demonstrations. I learned so much and really appreciate the thought and care that went into making this video.
INCORRECT... title Corrected: " Every tradesman needs to watch this". An EXCELLENT presentation. If only I had seen this video 38 years ago!
Dang!! Mark explained everything I ever needed to know about taps. I don't need to watch anymore videos.....EVER..!! Excellent visual aids and editing. Using real metal models is a lot of work but makes it so clear and easy to understand. Good job, sir..!!
A really practical explanation with enough clarifying images but without making you feel stupid by overusing them. I think it's a nice balance
How the frack did I end up here
Watched the whole vid
Fascinating
me too. i'm a welder xD
Me too I’m a musician.
me too. I'm a Cashier. Weird UA-cam, go home you drunk. Still interesting, thogh.
Me too, I'm a CNC programmer... easy to get sucked in Lol
I think watching AVE videos got me here
I'm Not a machinist, just a curious person who as manual tapping once, and wow! it's a realy great video, clear, simple... So nice !
The professionalism of this video blew me away.
Great vid. Thanks, very informative.
In Australia Taper = starter, plug = intermediate, bottoming is bottoming.
I've been tapping holes for 48 years. Was taught and learned from some good people but even I picked up on a couple of things here. Thanks Haas.
They probably Haas been tapping holes for a long time too! LOL
At 62 yrs old, & just getting into the hobby of Lathe & Mill machine work a year ago. I knew the time would come when I would need a Tap & Die set… And that’s about all I knew about a T&D set was it’s name… So this being my VERY 1st Video to have viewed was ABSOLUTELY PERFECT!!! Smooth Instructional & Technical video.. example with the Snowplow was brilliant ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
ZenModeling
This is what a real class should look like.
Awesome content.
A very helpful video for hobbyists. I love the snow plow! 😊🌎✨
Thank you.
I've been a professional mechanic for 14 years now, and tapped hundreds of holes, all by hand. The info in this video will make these tasks easier in the future and probably also enable me to produce higher quality repairs.
I stopped the vid less than half way through to write this: my supervisor at work suggested this channel yesterday and I subscribed today. I've been machining for over 11 years now and I've learned something new from each video that I've watched today. This is excellent presentation and a great mixture of explaining terms without just expecting the audience to know all the jargon. I'm already glad I subbed!
I'm trying to learn more about machining and tooling used for machining. The Haas Videos are always made so well that a guy like me can learn easily when I know nothing about the subject.
In Hungary hand thread cutters are the following:
1. Elővágó (~precutter) - marked with one ring on the shaft
2. Utánvágó (~aftercutter) - marked with two rings on the shaft
3. Készrevágó (~finish cutter, finisher) - no rings on the saft
But in here these are not the same as in US, because the nr. 1 and 2 are not have the full thread profile. They cut out first ~55%, then ~25% and for finishing the last 20% of the material.
In machine thread cutters we have:
Straight flute: Egyenes élű (same as in english)
Spiral flute: Csavart élű (~twisted flute)
Siral point: Terelőhornyos egyenes élű (~deflector grooved straight flute)
tnor90 in England that style of tap are called serial taps, as you use them in series one after the other.
Egy karika, két karika, nincs karika, mennyit hallottam ezt tanároktól évekkel ezelőtt.
I love these comments. I’m learning a lot from them. Thanks for posting! - Mark, Haas Tip-of-the-day
Bojler eladó!
@@littleworkshopofhorrors2395 I've only ever had one set of serial taps, 10x1.25, about 35 yrs old now. Imperial taps are marked the same though, got a few odd size Whitworth with 'rings'
As a Machining Student using Haas machines, I greatly appreciate all of these "Haas Tips of the Day". Thank you!
I'm a student too in Spain
Neil - Thanks for the feedback! If you have any suggestions for future videos, send them through to TOD@haascnc.com. - Mark, Haas Tip-of-the-day
@@haasautomation Thank you. I will keep email in mind for anything that might pop up!
Gotta tell ya - i was really arrogant starting to whatch this video..."Who doesn't know about spiral flute taps?"....But you did it in such a detailed excellent manner I even learned some stuff. GREAT GREAT job guys.
I've been working in a cnc shop for going on 3 years. No one has given me an explanation I can understand till now. Thank you
I have been a lathe guy until I switched shops now milling and my boss likes me to use your videos to boost my level of abilities. Thank you for making it easy to learn about things that were not taught in my training!
Check out joe pie for machining videos. Probably one of the best instructors in my opinion.
These videos really make me think that Haas care about their customers. Refreshing, so many manufacturers aren't interested when they have your money.
Boris Johnson PM I agree.
Jean Haas is a great guy He built a custom go cart track for his workers.I remember using Haas 5c index head in machine shops 25 years ago.
Wow, I am 65 and spent 8 years working around a machine shop.....I learned so much from this....thank you very much......
It`s awesome how easy a topic can be, if it is explained well.
Been using taps most of my life... and at 60 yo this old dog found Mark very interesting and even learned a few things!!!
Thanks for a thorough crash course on one of the most dreaded operations in precision machining. Love your Haas tip of the day every chance I get to watch and learn!
I vote this the best thing I’ve learned this year. I bought a tap & die set and had NO idea about what you just taught me. I just thought there were plugs, tapered and bottoming. I never considered which way the chips will fall, just like at the casino, This noob thanks you so very very much for teaching me and explaining it with a cool snow plow. My inner child was so happy to learn more more more.
Man you made one of the best UA-cam videos ive seen. Perfect!
I'm watching this and after you've grabbed the truck, I'm like "wait no way, how didn't I think about that". Now that concept will never leave my head - it's a lot easier to understand, than to memorize. Awesome.
P.S. In Russia these taps are called simply "roughing, semi-finishing, finishing", and are marked with 1,2, and 3 rings on the shaft, for those who didn't watch this video, so they wouldn't mess it up.
That 3 tap system is not the same. You have to use all three taps to get a full thread. It's prehistoric stuff:-)))
You know taps, my man ! In our shop, we worked a lot of titanium. Our machinists always had a coffee cup full of talcum powder next to their tapping operation. Taps have a nasty tendency to quickly gall, then snap. The talcum smoothed the operation, and fewer broken taps.
Right off the bat I’m no machinist but that said the industry really fascinates me so thus how I’ve stumbled upon this video, I’m young and basically my mechanical knowledge is based around what I’ve had to fix myself to keep myself moving forward and I do have a craftsman tap set and man it’s saved me several times from having to buy a new part but never did I ever think this much about tapping or ending with a quality tap, just did it and went on my way but I’ll tell you this video not only really interesting but extremely useful on how I will think about tapping from now on. Also this is a extremely well produced video, between the graphics in the animations and the Pronunciation I really enjoyed this video.!!!
Veteran machinist here. Very informative video. Kudos😊
This is a tip-top tap video. I learned about taps from the tip to the top, and the top to the tip. And with a bit of swarf thrown in as a bonus, perfectly done.
So how long did you play with the snowplow after shooting the video?
Great video 👍🏻
until Christmas X:D
also....specify duration on Table....Floor ......after the video !!! Lol !
He might or might’ve had to shorten the video by a couple of hours?!
Jorgen - Haven’t stopped! My wife took the fake snow with her to her class of school kids. They loved it. Fun stuff. - Mark, Haas Tip-of-the-day
@@haasautomation From the clarity of your lesson, I figured you had a teacher somewhere in your orbit.
geez, the quality of these videos is amazing. Not just the vision, but the content and level of explanation. great work!!
Thank you. Since this was made by a large company I thought it would be more of a commercial than an informative video. I was wrong. Great info that was concisely delivered and clearly explained.
Thanks Mark for the taps lesson! I'm a medium skilled diy guy, have tapped (and ruined) many holes, never REALLY knew what I was doing.
I now work almost one-handed after a stroke in 2011. This makes everything harder but I keep trying. Back around 2013 I attempted to helicoil some head bolt holes on a corroded 185 Johnson outboard. I used the usual t handle tap wrench, and could not for the life of me manage to align it, ruining 3 holes. For the remainder I used a ratchet wrench and was able to hold it in position with the good hand and turn with the impaired hand. But the ruined holes don't leave enough material to go oversize, so the professionally rebuilt short block is now trash, several thousand $$$$ down the drain.
Obviously, helicoil taps are bottoming, don't align. NOW you tell me!!! Well, my inexperience got me. Wish I'd seen your tips sooner! Or at least tried the ratchet approach first.
Great videos, even for a guy who will never touch an NC machine.
I find it amazing, how after reading all the comments that no matter who you are or where you are from there is an air of solidarity and kinship, with mutual respect among all of the people doing work like what's shown in these videos. I see the same basic principles in comments in most trades including, but not limited to, welding, carpentry, gunsmithing, electricians and blacksmiths. All traditionally blue collar trades. Humph, interesting. It shows we all have more in common than we have that separates us. It doesn't matter if you are Chinese, Mexican, Russian, Canadian, Cuban, German, Scottish or American. One needs to watch any of the varried " competition " reality T.V shows to see sore losers and bruised egos. But if you have ever watched Forged in Fire, you will see the difference. Those eliminated, or the looser, always exhibit fair play, own up to their mistakes and failure explaining why the decision was correct and how they will learn from it and strive to improve from the experience. All the while congratulating the winners. It's a wonderful display of recognition of talent and skill and fellowship for those who bettered them. It's a beautiful display of respect and pride amongst likeminded peers. And the way all people should look at others, not with envy and anger, but with respect, pride and camaraderie. You can learn a lot from others, no one can be expected to know it all and be the best all the time. You get out of a skill or trade what you put into it. And I personally find working with my brain and my hands to be the most fulfilling thing in my life. And I love to share what 50+ years of smithing has taught me.
man, from my heart, thank you, im a semi trained professional & have always wanted to know this. I worked at Norva plastics in Norfolk & no one there could ever explain the difference to me even though we had 2 haas mills & 1 haas lathe
Guy killed it.
Well done mate
I have to say you've taught me as much or more than my technical school. Thank you for the knowledge man.
In the old days, manufacturers produced the best continued education. Most of the old timers picked up their secrets from manufacturers ce.
This is f****** brilliant! The time, effort and thought put into this is amazing.
I knew Haas made exceptional machining tools and equipment, but I never knew they also made some of the very best educational videos!
Great video Mark, this is gold dust to us self taught engineers
What a Brilliant well planned & presented video! I'm not a machinist but I learn where I can. I found the presenter to be not only very knowledgeable but very easy to follow without him being a "know it all" on such a basic subject which is the way many come across. The prepared examples are high class & again, very well explained! I hope you have done other videos of this caliber that I can learn from. Thanks!!
Wow! I was expecting to need to go through like 2 -3 videos for the information I needed, but this covered all my questions and then added things that I wouldn't have even considered. Thank you!
Came here to watch Formula 1 cars. Taps didn't disappoint, watched the whole video and found it really interesting and well explained, I actually learned something. Thanks
LOL, go team HAAS. USA USA
Superb explanation without any flaws
Sharp explanation
Broad view
Deep knowledge
One Word: Perfect! Perfect explanations with a perfect actor. Thank you very much :)
If you don't want chips to build up in a blind hole, fill it with candle wax before you tap it. The wax is forced back through the flutes and brings all the chips with it.
This is brilliant Ima try this
or just use the right tap...
ALSO WITH WAX STUCK FEMALE SQUAR PIPE PLUGS (YEA) HEAT A LITTLE THEN APPLY WAX AND LET COOL PLUG WILL EXTRACT AND NOT BREAK OUT THE CORNERS OR SHATTER
SOMTHING I LEARNED FROM AN OLD DETROIT MECHANIC ABOUT REMOVAL OF BLOCK PLUGS
He's a good teacher. Knowledgeable, clear and concise.
This video change my life I used to think you werent chill, but i guess after watching this your chill.
Hi. In the UK, with 44yrs workshop experience, I have only heard the 3 taps being refered to as: 1) taper tap. 2) 2nd tap. 3) plug tap. In other words what you refer to as the "plug tap" is the last tap to be used in a blind hole to finish of cutting the thread.
Oh come on, I sat the whole video waiting for some Terryberry gold, "thank you for watching this, Haas tap of the day"
Didn't happen. Gutted.
Only kidding, fantastic content, and the CGI has really stepped up, great job guys
Me too!
Andrew - I see what you did there. - Mark, Haas Tap-of-the-day
Maybe after making the video he was too tapped out.
Great puns guys! 😁
I love to watch American instructional vids! I am a business / managerial trainer, consultant. Good chunk of learning here! Awesome instructor, perfectly organized instruction, super visuals! Thank you!
Australia- Plug tap = Blind tap
cheers mate, have a good one.
I absolutely loved your video ! You must have spent an awfully long time preparing it ! At about time 8:10 it shows a build up of chips . After 4 decades of working in aircraft/aerospace I remember that problem too well ! Too many self a claimed technicians were using wrong taps or should have drilled all the way thru but didn't ; or at least drilled deeper to accommodate chip clearance . This brings back old memories of parts being returned by customers wherein chips absolutely jammed internal threaded holes. We ended up drilling all the returned parts thru , with specially made/purchased extra long drill bits with slightly smaller than the min I.D. of the internal thread . FINAL NOTE : Again , I loved your video ! In my opinion a lot of guys should be getting more education just like your video ! Have good one ! John H. Toronto , Ontario in Canada .
Can't get enough of these tutorials. Keep them up.
Thanks for the comprehensive guide. This video saved me from doing a mistake as I have no experience in tapping. I needed to tap a corroded thread on blind hole. I was going to use straight plug tap while I was supposed to use spiral flute bottom tap. I didn't know the difference when purchasing the tap.
Thanks again.
Fascinating! I'm a guitar player but I've got no gigs due to Covid Restrictions so I'm attempting to do some DIY. This guy's *got it*. Top marks, fella! Thank you.
What an awesome introductory class! It was exactly what I needed! Well, more than I needed, as I’m merely cutting threads for bolts in a cast iron table saw top by hand. But, that was an excellent, easy to follow, yet informative instruction guide! Thank you!
Crazy how much effort is going to these videos! Thank you. Keep it up !
the whole hand tap story. very informative. my salute!
Sound, light, picture and animation is a top class. What a pleasure to watch this video. Thank you!
Thanks for a great video. Definitely learned a thing or two from that. Here in Sweden, taper tap = förtapp, plug tap = bottentapp, spiral tap = spiraltapp. The general term for "tap" is gängtapp, where gäng means thread.
Spinaltap?
quality videos like this give me the strength to keep living.
country boy we got a jokester here, eh! 😄
Excellent video, with good aiding graphics too. Thanks ... and yes, most of the taps I've broken are spiral flute. :|
I’m no machinist, but this was extremely educational and well explained.