Pete Davidson, Heartthrob - Why the “Hotness Gap” is BS
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Pete Davidson has recently become the subject of an internet wide “hot or not” debate, thanks to his newfound status as a Hollywood heartthrob. But what, really, is so surprising to people about his appeal? Pete has been linked to the likes of Ariana Grande, Margaret Qualley, Kaia Gerber, Phoebe Dynevor, and now Kim Kardashian. Yet the mass amounts of clickbait and general shock and confusion around Pete’s love life exposes that today’s culture may not be as progressive as we think.
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Kim Kardashian is the only female on here that I do not feel bad for she made her celebrity off of a sextape now she's mad that people only focus on her ass. You got to love the contradiction if you wanted people not to focus on your ass then you should have never made it your claim to fame.
@@juggaloclownpreacher You are part of the problem, and in all honesty, the world would be a much better place without people like you who spread this rhetoric. People change and evolve, get over it.
@@Turquerina Aren't we too extreme? The world would be better without people like you? And that decision you took based on only 1 UA-cam comment.
I think the hotness gap is more of a media thing than a real life thing. Men in movies, television, and whatnot can look any which way, but his female partner has to hit a certain level of attractiveness. In real life, falling in love with someone makes them hotter and hotter the more you see things you adore in them. Society's opinion of looks doesn't matter if they rock your world.
yes, you can tell when people are really in a relationship when they obviously haven't been matched by a casting person and they don't necessarily look cute together
Well said 🥰
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@@kalystaortiz3701 absolutely. This kind of trope affects everyone, not just women. Women aren't judged harshly for being with someone considered less attractive then themselves. Whereas, men can't seem to be allowed to fall for a women that is less attractive. Again, I think it's more of a Hollywood thing than a real life thing, and attractive is always subjective. It can seeps into our brains though, and we may not realize it.
There also the she fact that women take more care of their sppearence than men in general.
Pete Davidson: " Mental illness is not an excuse to act like a jackass."
Me: Okay...now I get what Kim Kardashian sees in him.
Oooooooohhhhh thats good
Ahhh I don't get it... This comment I mean
@@nosound5903 because Kim’s ex Kanye does use his mental illness as an excuse to act like a jackass
@@nosound5903 Kanye seems to blame his mental illness about anything bad he does. Pete, in one interview was asked how he gets all these women and he just says something like he treats them kindly. Pete has been open about his mental illness, even saying the drugs he takes regularly. But he seems like a chill, kind guy and never hides behind his mental illness to get him out of trouble.
@@misspeaches1144 I have the same mental illness as Kanye and it really bums me out that he handles it so destructively. When you have a mental illness, you end up hurting people sometimes without realizing it, so Pete, understanding that and trying to avoid it, puts himself light years ahead of Kanye when it comes to maturity (they don't have the same illness, btw, but their respective illnesses have a lot of overlapping symptoms).
The fact that there is no female version of Pete Davidson dating a male version of Ariana shows that there is a hotness gap. Of course Pete has positive qualities, everyone does. But a hot guy dating an average looking girl just because she's funny, does not happen nearly as often.
Chris Evans dated the comedian Jenny Slate (from Parks and Rec, "she's the worst" fame) and people were so horrible to her that they broke up.
Hotness is expected more of women than men.
@@saracastillo596 I remember that, I felt so bad for both of them.
Doesn't that say a lot about women?
@@Chris-rg6nm idk, what does it say to you?
Straight men agree there is a hotness gap between Jay Z and Beyonce but no one questions it. Conversely, Jenny Slate was criticized for dating Chris Evans mostly by women who deemed her "not hot enough"; though men didn't seem to care. The "hotness gap" is only questioned if both partners do not have equal levels of power, money, and fame.
The only reason Pete Davidson's attractiveness comes into question is that the media doesn't deem his status "worthy enough" to date the women he dates.
Once I grew up and started thinking for my self I realized Jay z isn’t ugly 🥴
Pete Davidson isn’t ugly
@@maxwellmediainc Exactly! Jay-z isn't ugly people are just extremely shallow and in some cases anti-black.
@@nikhefe16 ppl made fun of kobes looks even though we could all use some of his work ethic but when it comes to us black ppl have to be perfect in every way to even get a chance when a white dude who is a 2 at best gets movie deals and everything else idk maybe I'm salty
Same thing with Hugh Jackman and Pierce Bronson wife…. Women act like this men are doing charity by dating women that they dont consider atractive. I saw the same behavior when iraní reeves showed up publicly with his gilrfriend for the first time.
I experience this to a point in my real life marriage. My husband is tall, thin, and generally quite good looking. I'm short, chubby, and not considered attractive by pretty much anyone ever. (Thank you complete stranger in the street, I was worried no one would call me ugly today) People at large can't seem to figure out why we're together. Other women have openly hit on him in my presence because I'm seen as such a non factor. Gosh, it couldn't be that I'm a loving supportive person he enjoys being around and that he personally finds attractive? 🤷♀️
If you were a man nobody would have batted an eye :(
Double standards
I am happy you and your husband found each other. I wish you both all the happiness in the world and that that stranger that called you ugly gets pooped on by a dozen pigeons.
Celeste Barber often talks about that. People won’t respect the fact she’s her husband´s wife and either question why or act like it isn’t true. It’s horrible.
who I need to hit sis??
It’s very disturbing to me how horribly the media treats Pete when im he is open and honest about his mental health stuff and addiction issues. Like they truly don’t care about the harm they enact (I know it isn’t new but it’s always scary to see the media treat people like shit)
Right? Like I felt so bad when there was that period where everyone made his dick the punchline to a joke (as I do when a woman's body is made the joke) it's so crappy like
He looks like a ‘bad guy’ but he doesn’t act like an egotistic asshole. That’s a pretty good combo.
Why?
@@tonyabrookes9931 personal preference 🤷🏻♀️
@@tonyabrookes9931 Because it's a lie that women want men who treat them like SHIT.
Well
He looks like a crackhead trying to look like a bad guy..
Pete looks like he's a nice and kind person. Back that up with humour and compassion, and you have something a lot of people would be interested in checking out, even just as a friend.
I never thought of him as ugly.
He just looks like a normal dude, but when you're around celebrities who get their outfits, face and hair fixed by professionals, OFC you'll look ugly in comparison. If the person you're dating is extra good looking, that makes it worse.
Just like Machine Gun Kelly and Travis, if you take away the tattoos, give them a standard haircut and dress them conservatively, they'd all look average AF.
Honestly, it seems like a codependant thing
Travis legit looks like HE HAS CANCER.
honestly Pete Davidson is mostly "not considered attractive" through a very conservative male gaze. He's not pumping with muscles, he's very liberal, has no issues pointing out flaws and weaknesses in himself (when the conservative male gaze acknowledges weaknesses, it means that they admit that they exist. So as long as they're in denial about them, they're not there), has a good sympathetic vibe about him, and overall confident charisma depsite all of his self-loathing jokes. He's the kind of guy who really doesn't give a fuck about what people think of him, and still somehow ends up being on the good side. Most "idgaf about anyone"-people end up inadvertedly supporting people in power. I completely agree with the conclusion of this video: Pete Davidson talks to women like people, not achievements. And hint for men, women pick that stuff up quite quickly.
Pete Davidson is cute, his personality makes him hot af. Like rail me in an alley-hot. Most people are upset about it because they feel only the alpha male should get "the girl", and even if this movement actually helps them, they're hellbent on keeping a system that is mostly hurting themselves. It's because at this point these people have given way and thrown themselves at the feet of people they consider alpha, sacrificed countless amount of hours in the gym or doing this or that to even become a sliver of the sculpted gods. So it's just about being pot-committed at this point. Admitting this would mean that all of this time they wasted and all the times they let "an alpha" walk over them was for nothing.
I appreciate the essay, no sarcasm. All valid points. Respect!
I mean I think that he is charming too, but on the other hand people like Chris Hemsworth are beloved too. Your comment seem kinda toxic to men who are trying to figure it out...
What is wrong with you? What even is the conservative male gaze? I am conservative probably far more than anyone you have ever met yet I think he's attractive. Was just having a conversion about this with someone the other day. Then you make this about politics. Are you really using terms like "Alpha male"? That's some incel shit right there. All these assumptions about people who just have a simple difference of opinion, news flash people find different things attractive. This isn't about politics or some gender war. You people are fucking sick.
@@Hashashin_420Brah it’s not a huge deal. Everyone has a right to their own opinion
Women are just as visual as any man
Pete puts himself out there and is always himself, which is attractive.
Pete has nice lips, nice teeth, kind eyes, he‘s tall - I really don‘t see how people could think he‘s ugly
And a great jawline.
I agree, plus he seems like somebody who can converse. In the real dating world he's a 10.
Nah y’all are just attracted to ugly men if he treats you right, which is sad. 😂
@@mrsstealyoman3008 how is it sad?
Yeah his eye area is the only thing that's not -conventionally- attractive about him
A girl on TikTok said, “Women are more attracted to Loki than Thor, and men can’t understand why.”
Tom Hiddleston is a very attractive guy though, and Loki as a character is extremely intelligent, charismatic and mysterious all of which make him extremely attractive
@@theunknown5386 Ok sweetie. 😒
Because Tom Hiddleston is actually more attractive than Chris Hemsworth? Toms face is way more aesthetically pleasing than Chris’s. Chris Hemsworth just has muscles, he’s really not that attractive
Bishonen.
@@theunknown5386 um... no?
The “hotness gap” is very real. It perpetuates the idea that that women can only be in relationships with men if they look a certain men while guys can exist without putting any effort into their appearance and its perfectly fine.
"while guys can exist without putting any effort into their appearance and its perfectly fine."
Wait, what's wrong with this exactly?
You completely missed the point of this video, and you should work on yourself and do better.
@@Chris-rg6nm Those slobs are going to set unrealistic expectations onto women when they’re unattractive themselves.
@@TributesAndUnique Wow you are dehumanizing them and you are perpetuating the idea that looks are the only value people posses. It's not cute.
@@Chris-rg6nm You’re saying that as if women aren’t objectified for their looks all the time. God forbid a woman have standards on how a man should look.
Meanwhile I showed pete to my husband and he went "how is this a story he's good looking" lol
Right? Lol. I only realized people thought he wasn't when they started freaking out about him dating Kim
Seriously. He IS good looking. Hes 6'3, fit, fashionable, funny, down to earth, financially successful, face is pretty symmetrical if you're into that, great lips, straight white teeth, famous.... Show me a short fat dude with no personality and no job and a jacked up face that doesn't brush his teeth and I'll understand....until then the "Pete isn't hot" story is just a joke.
@@Janellabelle he is reasonably attractive, just not as attractive as women he is dating. In incel language, he is a 6.5-7, dating 8's and 9's.
@@rondolo1 dude I LOVE Ariana but she has had a lot of surgery. Her entire face is done. Same goes for Kim K. Both of these women are gorgeous but when you compare store bought beauty to real beauty, that becomes a problem.
I love how everyone cares about the height so much good thing I'm gay cause I'm only 5"7 I do get hit on by women some pretty attracting so guess not all care so much.
Pete Davidson is cute. The media needs to take accountability in enabling impossible beauty standards. I think we all know by now is that it’s very high school by the way they describe people.
he look weird to me.
@@lochofmceo That’s ok. You have your opinion.
@@PokhrajRoy. you’re only saying that he’s cute because you ain’t
@@PokhrajRoy. but let me stop before I hurt your feelings
He looks like he is still in high school
Its more of an "effort gap" Pete can be considered attractive while seemingly putting in very little effort while all the women the media deem attractive looks, to me, like they put tons of effort into it.
Idk, Pete's aesthetic looks like it takes a lot of work.
No effort is wearing a bland shirt and slacks. That is not what Pete does. He has a very manufactured disheveled look that requires a lot of clothing shopping, hair dying, and tattoos.
Yes!!!! Like Pete Davidson really don’t try to put any effort in at all aesthetically…. (I could say “hey that’s the perks of being a white dude” but just to keep it on topic) Pete literally out here looking pretty bummy most of the time. It’s odd to say the least…
Agree! Pete is cute but he doesn’t have that Hollywood sheen, impeccably groomed and styled.
His guy next door approachability and hint of bad boy charm must be refreshing for starlets used to uber-perfect Hollywood hunks.
@@IRHasDiabetes911 not saying Pete looks like he puts “no effort” in his looks, but compared to how much efforts the women put its super low
Yea I think so too. Hes branded himself a stoner that lives with his mom even though hes actually a millionaire that's been working at being a successful comedian since he was a teen.
He’s 6’2, in shape, funny, quirky, has a square jaw and is Caucasian af… he’s conventionally attractive
Thank you Thank you dude was never ugly to begin with
A lot of people appear to operate under the "If I do not find you attractive, no one does" logic.
This is pretty much the only reason the so called Dating Leagues are so talked about.
he's jewish
he do be looking like an anemic vampire though, but a cute one! 🤣
That jawline😁
What also frustrate me is that being attractive doesn't make you a good partner, they could literally have the best relationship even though you don't find them attractive, you can't know
This!!!
Never understood the confusion. Even without being familiar with Pete Davidson’s work or personal history, just surface level, I always thought he was easy on the eyes. It’s the surprise that’s surprising.
👏"it's the surprise that's surprising"👏👏👏👏 exactly
I agree . I’ve always seen him as just as attractive as any other Hollywood person ... and now people are saying he’s not good enough? Beauty standards are fucking impossible man
Pete literally would've fit perfectly in the grunge era.
What's the grunge era?
@@thabokgwele5268 Look up Kurt Cobain that’s a good example of the aesthetic.
One thing I find attractive about him is that he seems comfortable with himself and that kind of confidence in yourself at least in how you look is attractive. Plus, he's funny. Intelligence and really good humor, go hand and hand.
Beauty truly is in the eye of the beholder. What one person finds attractive, another might not
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To me he seems awkward, fragile and unsure. It's fascinating that you see him as confident. His body language alone says so much.
@@tonyabrookes9931 you must be pretty unfamiliar with him then bc I think one of the biggest reasons he is so attractive is he is so genuine, confident and secure w who he is. He knows he has problems but he owns them and deals w them
@ H. Haydon. Yup!!!
I'm so confused. I get that he's pale and slim and stuff but on a basic aesthetic level, he is way above average looking. He is super tall with a great jawline and good facial symmetry and features? Sure there's all the personality, tattoos etc, but they're only on top of what is already a good base
💯 After meeting certain standards that are pretty universally considered attractive leaning into one aesthetic or another makes or breaks people’s personal tastes.
His “base,” like you said, is already more attractive than like 70% of the population. Him dressing the way he does, his tattoos, his personality, those sorts of things make him who he is and that makes him a yes to some and a no to others. If he dressed/talked/acted differently I bet a lot of those nos would change their minds because he is objectively good looking. They just can’t see that past his style I think.
He's tall and white, which is a huge boost. Would he get the same attention if he were exactly the same but shorter than the average woman? I doubt it 😕
Exactly. He's better looking than most of the male population. If he's supposed to be some horrible uggo, I don't know what chance the average man has anymore.
He may be attractive, but he is also goofy looking. The symmetry is quite a bit off. Notice his mouth is like a see-saw with the left side higher than the right side. His features are crowded close together in the middle of his face. His nose hangs down close to his lips. There is very little tissue framing his eyes so the eyeballs define the shape. Whether goofy lookingness is a turn off or turn on depends on the person.
Right this video is so weird. He's a cutie
Pete has great bone structure and he’s tall. I just hate the double standards how unattractive chicks never get the hot guys.
I have always found Pete physically attractive, but it is his personality that makes him stay attractive to me. He is incredibly honest with who he is-both the good and bad aspects of his personality. He is down to earth and comes off like someone I would hang out with in my own friend group and doesn't seem to be overly influenced by his celebrity. He is just here for the ride and whatever comes with it. That willingness to go with the flow and the comfort with who he is makes him incredibly attractive.
Pete, harry styles, timothee chalamet are non toxic dudes that's why theyre painted to be the hot guys of the century. What makes them appealing is their kindness and their almost like rebellion to what is expected of a man. I mean harry is feminine and timothee is an cool art boy and pete is vocal and vulnerable when talking abt himself.
He more or less acts like a British comedian. Super dry, super self deprecating. I can see why these attributes really play with a US audience.
A lot of US comedians get their comedy style from Britain. Pete's standup specials aren't that memorable. He's known more for his PR relationships than his actual SNL career
Pete is objectively attractive. He’s tall, has a full head of hair, big eyes and nice features. He’s what a lot of women find attractive from a physical perspective.
I remember when Jenny Slate and Chris Evans were dating and people also bullied Jenny because they thought that Chris was out of her league. Even though she is gorgeous.
Jenny Slate is a lovely looking woman. She is very pretty.
In Parks and Rec, I always understood the relationship between Jerry and Gayle. Jerry is a very loving and compassionate man who loves unconditionally. Gayle loves her family and is very homebound. It makes sense that those 2 types of people would love each other.
It's sad that so many people get hung up on status, money & looks, when all that can be lost in an instant. Humor & being a good person are far more valuable traits than appearances.
he has the status and money which gets him in those circles
There is definitely a hotness gap that exists in both media & real life, It just only applies to "hot" women/not "hot" men. Try & name 10 examples of traditionally hot guys with lesser hot women.
There are quite a few hot male celebrities with female spouses who would not be considered as attractive. It just doesn't get much media attention. For example:
Hugh Jackman and Deborra-Lee Furness
Paul Rudd and Julie Yaeger
Nikolaj Coster-Waldau and Nukâka Coster-Waldau
Ewan McGregor and Eve Mavrakis
Rob Lowe and Sheryl Berkoff
Jay Ryan and Dianna Fuemana
Ethan Hawke and Ryan Shawhughes
Aaron Taylor-Johnson and Sam Taylor-Johnson
Pierce Brosnan and Keely Shaye-Smith
Jon Bon Jovi and Dorothea Hurley
I agree with you that there is a sexist hotness gap in society, but there are many people who don't care about that, and do understand what's important in a relationship. Men who are considered "sex symbols" are probably relieved to be with someone who sees them as more than just a pretty face, and love them for who they are.
@@theunknown5386 What are you on about? I said there is a double standard hotness gap. I didn't say I condone it.
@@user-eh6md6bj2i Heres the thing....who? We're talking about about celeb & media culture. And let's be real, you had to google those names. If I asked for the reverse, you wouldn't have to.
@@user-eh6md6bj2i You forget that those women aren't ugly or strange looking. The "worst" you're getting here is that some of those women are older than their partner, but none of them are unattractive.
Machine Gun Kelly looks like a weirdo who is moments away from an addiction, a breakdown, or both. The gap of conventional attractiveness is wider between him and Megan Fox, than Hugh Jackman and his wife.
Let's also not forget that there's a big difference in whether or not your partner is also famous and wealthy. Status is also important here.
But honestly, in the end, they all probably saw something in their "not as attractive" partner that nobody else does because they don't actually know them.
@@Zeverinsen I never said these women are unattractive. I personally consider them to be quite beautiful. But I do believe they are considered less attractive than their sex status symbol hubbies. And they do defy the common stereotype that the women are always more attractive than the men in a relationship.
Men created a hotness gap in just about every show or movie ever written so that it is normalized in our collective conscience and culture. Fred and Wilma, Bart and Marge, the couple on Modern Family. The Take has done this trope. Average men with hot girls are in every film and tv show and yet men are still too intimidated to approach these beautiful women in real life.
Wow, nice observation. We are brainwashed by the media to accept hotness gap as norm.
Homer and Marge .....Bart is Marges son lol
Binibini Fred and Daphne were together not Velma
"yet men are still too intimidated to approach these beautiful women in real life.
"
Yeah we realize that the show is fake.
Actually below average men feel very comfortable approaching and harassing beautiful women in real life.
Pete is very symmetric, also it's men misunderstanding that buff men are for the male gaze not for women. Has Hank Green once said women want the fox Robin Hood.
Also it's people thinking you should "match" your partner, a very immature idea that most people grow out of.
@@theunknown5386 don't be obtuse. It doesn't mean men want to bang those guys (that's what one dimensional female characters are for), it means they want to be them/look like them. It's male fantasy.
@@theunknown5386 Sure, they're nice to look at. They'd suck to date because first of all, all that muscle isn't that much fun in bed (reduced flexibility for a start, and it's not fun being crush to death by 200kg of solid muscle), and second they have to eat not much and spend hours working out and that is very very boring to be around for any length of time.
So, any incels watching who think their gainz are going to get them a girl - no, because your personality is still weak, and whilst your bro friends on reddit might want to talk to you for hours about your gainz, girls certainly don't.
@@theunknown5386 sure some do. But just as many drool over soft, skinny Timothy Chalamet, Pete Davidson, Tom Hiddleston. Another thing: Chris Evans, Michael B Jordan, Chris Hemsworth... sure they're buff but you know what else they are? They're progressive, funny, and willing to be vulnerable.
I personally wasn't attracted to Chris Hemsworth when the original Thor came out, but when he showed his humor and charm THEN he became attractive. I think looks score higher for men than for women in general.
@@theunknown5386 women look at personality first then they find the guy attractive and then, if they are buff, they appreciate the buffiness. If you look at all the thirsty fan pages of all the buff people you've mentioned, you'll notice that a lot of "baby" comments under a cute picture of them smiling. It's more like, yeah he's strong but look how soft he is!
Being the chubby kid in school and college, like 4 times in my life people always told me I would make a nice couple with a chubby girl, and they would encourage us to date. You know, just because we would look "cute" together, but you know, sometimes with good intentions (as in I should be a realist), but often said by skinny people in a condescending tone
It’s not so much about a “hotness gap.” It’s just that any woman who wants to get mainstream famous, has to dial up the sex appeal by maintaining peak “hotness” at all times. A man can pretty much look like his bare self. Any woman who forgoes the beauty treatments and top-shelf plastic surgeons looks frumpy by celebrity standards.
very good video!! the way the media and people treat him is VERY weird. this applies to all relationships, regardless of gender, where people on the outside question why the conventionally attractive person is with someone others think is unattractive. people look for and value more things than looks, not everybody is shallow. and the vitriol that the "unattractive" people face signifies a gross society and its mindset that people's worth is determined by their appearance, and that they are undeserving of love or affection from people supposedly more attractive than them
Also, everyone has a different definition of attractive. The "unattractive" person in the relationship could be physically hot as hell to the "attractive" one, despite society generally disagreeing.
@@uniraffesaur yup yup exactly
Stop trying to make Pete Davidson happen
I second that, why is everyone trying to make him happen.
@@kikilari He is already happening. The entertainment/gossip media has certainly not been trying to help him. I have seen this play out since Ariana. They have been putting him down for years, comparing him negatively to whoever he dates. Painting him as a cocky punk. He started going around the media by doing interviews like the Hot Ones interview. People started realizing he wasn't like what they were trying to paint him as. I am glad he is winning against those a- holes and his fan base has grown.
Im usually with you ladies on your take but this one misses the point.
There is definitely a lower bar for hotness with men than women in Hollywood. Pete is not hot for Hollywood standards while his dates are. When people mention why he is hot its always about his sense of humor or personality. The women he is dating are mentioned for their looks first.
We are only talking about him because he is dating women considered attractive. If he was dating someone deemed average, no one would give two F's who this guy was.
We are not talking about regular folks here.
Exactly! Pretty pretentious of people when Pete Davidson gets praise when he dates pretty women, but if it was a ugly female celebrity nobody would give a fuck.
This shit is why I try my best to avoid celebrity gossip and "news". It's hard to ignore when everyone's talking about it but it feels like no one actually graduated highschool. Why do people care about this? Escapism? Wish fulfilment? Maybe, but they're just other people at the end of the day.
All arguments mentioned seem bs to me honestly.
Dude is a white tall guy. So he fits the beauty standard. The tattoo make him look mysterious. The emphasis is on look. And he is charming, since he is comedian.
Only pattern I am recognizing from my own observation in my life is that once you get female attention from someone who is regarded beautiful, other women find you attractive too. Probably some human competition thing.
There are many tall white guys who are not conventionally attractive whatsoever. I get that tall and white tick off boxes for many-arguably too many-people, but they're not the only qualities needed.
Look under any SNL video involving Pete and you'll see a string of comments (usually from straight men) about how ugly, unremarkable and unfunny Pete is. There clearly is some kind of disconnect between what the various groups consider hot.
It's worth mentioning that, regardless of how modern we like to think we are, you still have to pretty much be a perfect 10 to be one of the really big female influencers.
Speaking as a gay male, he is one of the hottest celebrities, and I would let him do unspeakable things to me. He also deserves to be respected and not scrutinized for his looks. No one does.
You have no taste.
@@ryanscottlogan8459 Nah, you just have bad taste.
Frustrating how gendered the hotness gap is :( There are definitely some movies/shows that try to flip it with a hot male lead and an 'average' looking girl, but then you look up the actor's real life girlfriend and she's bangin', of course. And then you look up the actress and she's actually hot too but just made to look 'average'.
I hate that you're right. >:(
Okay, I get the point of the video. But I didn't know that's considered progressive, can someone give an example of a female version of Pete Davidson? Excuse me but a female Pete Davidson would be actually progressive in 2021. Pretty girl and average guy is old news.
"Pretty girl and average guy is old news." Well yeah, it's a trope. Which is like the entire point of this channel lol.
What I find amazing is that so many people are obsessed with these women. I would wonder why Pete dates them, not the other way around.
Agreed. It is kind of annoying how people call Ariana a Goddess. She is nice looking I guess, but she doesn't even look like the same person without the spray tan and makeup. Why don't people get that? It is not even her. Pete is much more relatable and likeable.
I think because he finds them attractive, but also maybe see something in them that other people don't.
So a rich celebrity is getting girls? What a surprise.
Yea, I'm disappointed in this take. Oh well, I can't like all their videos.
I'm shocked. Completely shocked!
Right? Ain’t no rocket science.
Pete is conventionally attractive though. He has a defined jaw, thick lips and the dark eye holes give him that mysterious bad boy look. The media calls Pete "average" because they look at him from a male gaze perspective. He's not a bulging muscle clump with blonde hair and blue eyes acting dominant and fitting other toxic masculine stereotypes. No, he has an attractive face that appeals to straight WOMEN.
“Women define a man who has a sense of humor as a man who makes them laugh, but men define a woman with a sense of humor as a woman who laughs at their jokes” dang that rings true.
He's funny, kind, recognized for his talents, by all accounts a decent person behind the scenes, and he has endured similar paparazzi shitstorms to what these ladies have always endured. He's not grotesque looking, cover the tattoos, get him a stylist, and he would fade into the background in Hollywood. As it is, he expresses himself in a way that is still well-groomed, and people act like he just rolled out of bed.
When I first I saw him, I literally felt a deep desire for a second. This never happened to me in any of the actors. What makes him attractive is that, he is a very good-looking guy but with very realistic standards. kind of a guy I would super like on Tinder, without questioning whether if he is a catfish or just a good-looking dude without personality. When I see all the good-looking actors and models etc. I just like to look at them, they don't feel that much how can I put it, "alive".
I feel like one reason why the women in Hollywood want to date Pete is not just because he's attractive but because if the relationship doesn't work out, he's not going to turn it into hell for them. He's been so respectful of all his exes. Even when he spoke of Ariana in his Netflix special, he didn't insult her. The most negative thing he's said about her was when he criticised her for appearing on a magazine cover looking brown. And he only did that because that was wrong yet nobody seemed to call her out on it. In comparison the way, say John Mayer has spoken of his exes in media... It can be so scary
Jack Black also makes women laugh. He isn’t a heartthrob. It isn’t the humour.
Fatphobia is strong.
You're lying if you say you've never had a crush on Jack Black. Speak for yourself.
Jack black is big. And not slightly big like Seth Rogan, but he made his weight the punch line of every joke for so long that he appears like a slob. America is very against gluttony… even though this country’s top companies promote it and rely on it for income lol I don’t believe he’s a slob, but this is the reason he could never be considered a heart throb. Also, he’s 52
Is Pete Davidson not conventionally attractive? He has regular features, he’s tall and in decent shape. What are men supposed to look like? There are a lot of examples of the hotness gap in media, but I don’t think Pete Davidson is one of them. If he wore a suite and was made up, he’d look regular hot rather than alternative hot. He just acts awkward, but there’s no actual glaring flaws in his looks. Same with MGK. He’s also conventionally attractive. If he were a woman, he’d be a model.
I feel bad for Pete Davidson that he has to listen to the media tell him he’s ugly in comparison to the hot women he dates.
I can’t believe I live in a world where people actually believe that Kim Kardashian is dating Pete Davidson for real. Listen I ADORE Pete, I think he is beautiful and lovely, but I do not for a second think Kim is into him for anything more than publicity.
I mean she is just getting out of a very serious (and most likely toxic) long term relationship. Maybe she just wants to mix it up?
all of his relationships outside of ariane were for pr. they use each other. can't stand kim but at least we know the truth with her
Most of his relationships are PR. Idk why ppl don't see that Kim is "dating" him to distract us from the astroworld situation.
@@Dm34421 And what brought you to that conclusion?
I have a feeling he is her rebound guy and most likely a publicly stunt. At the end of the day it’s Kim kardashian, but it’s a shame she divorces once again and with children!
Pete Davidson is a bit young for me, but I’ve always had a crush on him. His smile is adorable and he’s funny. He seems to be one of Lorne Michaels favorite people to hang out with, so he must be smart and interesting. He’s also adventurous and is so humble about his achievements.
And he seems like someone who anyone could hang with, he's not affected by his fame. He's so cute and he looks like my boyfriend and my bf has a big one and the same kind of body.
@@andrerodman737 you sound like a very lucky woman.
I mean as a guy its really not surprising watching Pete get a lot of girls. Funny, great personality, mentally flawed but aware of it and makes it known, tall, white/lightskin, great smile. Its been the standard for my generation of girls, like its always gonna be their type. i just think to non millennials/gen z it may seem weird or new but its so common its basically going to be the new standard for the years to come.
I agree, Pete is a charming, funny guy and the gap might not be in looks per se but in the effort that goes into making yourself appealing to other people. Women like Kim Kardashian and Ariana Grande put a ton of effort into their appearance and the image they project. As you say, Pete comes across as more authentic. Therefore I would call it an "effort gap" rather than a hotness gap. Everybody can look hot with enough effort. What I want to see is hot male stars dating casual, authentic, average women. Doesn' t happen nearly as often
This still leaves a patriarchal taste in my mouth. Every few years there is a guy like this, average that all the attention seeking women of Hollywood. He seems just as branded like everyone else it’s image he projects I’m sure he is as jerky as the others. Ariana has a type which isn’t the norm and he was in the right place at the right time. These guys are still only dating “hot” girls so yeah I’m going to judge is looks
I don’t find him attractive tbh
My crush for Pete Davidson has been running deep since 2017. I have never hidden the fact that I am wildly attracted to him through all his phases and always wish the best for him and his mental health.
His personality and overall self-awareness is incredibly endearing. The way he would totally blow up on social media and can capitalize on it, but chooses not to have one to take care of his sanity is also indicative of his character. He’s humble too, and though looks like a douchebag at times, it actually a really sweet and charismatic person who would get along with everyone good-natured. He also doesn’t seem pretentious and seems to think he’s less famous than he actually is.
Anyway, Pete, for all of his flaws, is human and a good one at that. And in my opinion at least, very physically attractive too, perhaps amplified by his honesty. That’s all for my TEDxTalk.
Not a big follower of Kardashian news, but going from someone with blown out ego like Kanye to a lowkey guy like Pete is quite a jump. I wonder how it must feel for Kim and her family.
Other than looking like he needs to get some sleep, he is a good looking guy. I think he has the appeal of the skater guy you had a huge crush on in high school. His body and facial features aren't that bad or even "average"
I agree that we need to stop objectifying women, but at the same time that doesn't mean we cannot criticize them. The Kardashians have made so much money from scamming poor people, it does seem a bit tasteless to compliment their "business acumen".
Real analysis and insight. Love this. And Pete seems like the guy who would bring you soup if you’re sick or drive you all over town to help you find your lost puppy. He seems genuinely proud of his brilliant sister and sweetheart mom. Seems like a sweet guy.
I am not a girl. I am a woman, an adult human female.
Me tarzan
Not a girl not yet a woman by Britney Spears
... ok?
@@LivyRivy in response to the "weird girl" marketing. Its insulting
As someone who has had the "Hotness Gap" in several relationships and crushes. People wonder why someone that looks like me would go with a so so guy. I get consistently told I could do better, or that they just don't get why I like the guy. I feel judged and that I should date a better looking man. But in reality I have come to learn I like the quirky guy with nerdy interests. It may not seem like it but I am that way and want someone I can talk to rather then just sit in silence with. So if anyone can take anything away from this, stop telling your friends they are to hot for their boyfriend or girlfriend when they may be the best person in the room. Tell them that their partner is out of their league when the guy isn't a fantastic person or takes more then than give.
He’s not attractive.
The statement: women define sense of humour in a guy is how they make them laugh while men define a woman's sense of humour as how they laugh at their jokes! That's so true!
What doesn’t make sense about Pete is that he isn’t funny. It would make sense if he was like a well respected actor and comedian but he’s not. He’s rode his success all the way to the top without any actual content. That’s why people are always stunned about who he’s with not his appearance
this came in perfect time because I just became obsessed with watching Pete clips on UA-cam and also the Jimmy Fallon interview came out like a day ago lol
He’s so fun!
The simple fact that so many people care about his level of attractiveness is worrying. Maybe these women like him because he's not cocky or does not try to compensate for his insecurities with toxic masculinity, which must be very hard to find in the world of celebrities. Wether he is hot or not is a non issue, and says a lot about how people see men AND attractive women.
Yeah but Pete IS HOT. I understand that his type of hotness isn't exactly mainstream compared to the Chris Hemsworths of the world, but he totally is hot. He has a grunge, punk thing going on that a lot of women find attractive. Plus he's very successful. And funny. One of the things that I've always liked about him, is that he always seems very respective about the women he's dating or dated in the past. He never talks about them in a crude or crass way - whenever he jokes about them, the joke is always about HIM. He makes himself the but of the joke instead of his partner. He could SO EASILY have trashed Adriana Grande after they broke up, but he never has. Another thing that comes across is that he doesn't act like an alpha male - he can look quite androgynous at times which is very refreshing. He doesn't seem like he needs to be the most successful or dominant guy in the relationship. He always seems very sweet and down to earth, so I'm guessing that plays a huge part in why so many beautiful women want to date him.
Under his tattoos and dark eye circles Pete is conventionally attractive. He's tall, broad shouldered, has a good jawline and full lips. Add to that he's funny and self aware....what's the mystery here?
I find hypocritical to see women who sell looks complaining that men don't see anything than their looks.
He has straight white teeth, a straight not big nose, and overall proportional facial features. Also a skinny male model body. If he didn't hunch his back he would be a classic "bad guy hot internet celebrity" or something.
"What does he have that I don't?" Lol probably hair.
Height, straight teeth and tattoos are really all it takes.
So beauty standards and not whatever the video is trying to tell us... got it
And for women, thin blonde and petite
Yikes setting the bar too low! 🚩🚩🚩
@@jamieyoung9206 yeah, that is why models start at 5'8 and above.
@@rondolo1 I think models are hot to designers... the average person usually doesn’t give tall women, or straight/“non-voluptuous” women preference over petite, “shapely” ones
I do feel that Pete Davidson is attractive in an unconventional way, and that in itself is very appealing to women who dislike traditional, stereotypically backwards men with little to offer in the way of emotional support. He is very funny, emotional vulnerable, and won't try to mansplain anything to a woman. That is because this guy is very self-aware he is a mess and that he is lucky to be dating the amazing women he has dated in his romantic past. It isn't hard to see why women are attracted to him physically and emotionally, especially since what men think women find attractive in men (strong physique, hyper masculinity, unemotional front) is actually more of a turn off for many women considering those same traits are the reason they dislike or are unattracted to conventionally attractive men. He specifically attracts "glamourous women" because these same women have already experienced relationships with hyper-masculine, conventionally attractive men and understand that having a mutually beneficial relationship relies on way more than just mutual physical attraction.
Going with the argument on celebrities only dating celebrities is “too much”, it makes sense because they will not get as starstruck by each other being celebrities and understand the (lack of a better term) “hardships” at being a celebrity. They can relate with each other.
I also like seeing couples that started with the partner not knowing their celebrity status like Kevin Jonas and his wife.
I find hope in celebrity couples that stay together like Kurt Russel and Goldie Hawn and Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds, etc. they show that relationships can work out.
But I look for happy and committed couples in my family as hope to.
It all depends on the individuals and couple.
more like popular kids in a high school full of narcissistic adults dating each other
I think this also has a lot to do with the female gaze v the male gaze.
while he is more than valid at expressing not being ok with people talking about his body sexually, specifically ari, why was it ok when he was going around talking about her that way? when she talked about his BDE it read to me as her throwing him a bone since he kept making it a point to remind everyone who he was having sex with. weird of this vid to cut out those parts in his interviews.
Are we going to ignore the obviously PR partner aspect of this.
Dude is totally my type, 10/10 for me personally, don't see why media and other men like to look at him as average lol
The media tells people who to find good and bad, and basically what to think and who to support. Its weird at this point .
I’ve personally always found Pete attractive and he has an amazing personality to top it off. If a guy can make you laugh he’s always more attractive.
I've always thought Pete Davidson was really hot. Like I get why he's not everyone's type, but people talk about him like he's objectively unattractive. I honestly think it's just men giving their opinions on what they think women are attracted to - the 'chad' fallacy. I'd date Pete Davidson over a ripped, cut-jaw "alpha male" no question.
He's a skinny, rich, white guy with tattoos. How is that not attractive?? 🤔
Society never hid the hotness couple expectations or dislike for hotness gap. It is the high school wattpad jock with the cheerleader. Hugh Jackman’s wife has years of media shaming for being not being a certain age or weight. Pierce Brosnon’s current wife was the stereotype young thin model but later was shamed for changing.
Is this video founded on the concept that Pete Davidson is ‘average’ or ‘not celebrity hot’?
What?
He’s hot as fuck.
Like unreasonably good looking.
Lol where is he hot. He looks like he hasn’t showered in ever. He’s got dark circles around his eyes? Looks like he’s a drug addict. Where is he hot at
Lol he looks like a high school kid
To each his own
Right?! His personality is attractive for sure but discounting that, he is already very physically attractive. He’s tall, he’s got a symmetrical face and strong jawline, he’s slim and a little toned, and he’s got a clear aesthetic with his tattoos and hair and such. (Aside from that last one which is more about personal taste) all of those things are pretty universally considered good looking.
It really surprised me when I started noticing media pinning him as average or even ugly, what?!? The main thing I hear him get shit for is being skinny but he’s not skinny in a “I don’t take care of my body” way. He’s just slim. He still has muscle definition he’s just not very muscular or buff. Many guys think being ripped is the peak of attractiveness when a lot of women really don’t care about that.
I wish media wasn’t so focused on looks but here I am analyzing the looks of some guy I don’t know. I guess maybe that’s the point 😬
@@whatthefox1818 you’re washed up yourself so it isn’t surprising
I think men find such a hard time understanding why Pete might attract objectively gorgeous women like Ariana and Kim because men themselves care about appearance first and personality second, which is why we don’t usually see a “hotness gap” where the man is more conventionally attractive. I don’t get why it’s so hard to comprehend that these women value personality over looks (which is very subjective anyway).
Did I miss a memo about that every sodding UA-cam video has to feature the word “iconic” at some point? The word has lost all meaning.
Pete is conventionally attractive. He’s tall, has a great smile, symmetrical face etc. I think his sometimes low self esteem and self deprecating humour conflates his goofy awkward personality with him looking goofy and awkward. If he wasn’t funny/a comedian, he’d still have a lot of women interested in him
Thank your for this! I felt so bad for him, it stopped being funny the minute the internet felt entitled in dehumanizing him… WTF?
Never underestimate the ability to make your date laugh! Pete Davidson is hilarious and he's probably a lot of fun to be around. One of the things my fiancée loves most about me is I make her laugh every day.
THIS CHANEL ALWAYS READS MY MIND, YOU ALWAYS PICK SUCH INTERESTING TOPICS I CANT I LOVE YOU ALL TOO MUCH TO EVEN BREATHE
Tbh my firsthand experience with the "hotness gap" often goes in the opposite direction among the middle class. Where I've noticed way more goodlooking guys dating normal-looking girls than the other way around. It's almost as if both hot and normal women and men are A) actually capable of valuing attributes in their partner outside looks and/or B) just find these "unconventional" looks genuinely attractive and "woke" Hollywood and the media are just full of crap.
PLEEEEEEASE do a take on the new Sex and the City. I’ll be patiently waiting to hear your thoughts and if you think it will stand the test of time like the previous episodes or if it will just be a stepping stone for the next show that can execute the message “better”. 🥳👂🏼✅
I feel like a lot of cis-het men are confined in a shell created by society as well as patriarchy and sustained by cis-het men who are products of the former two. The self-image and the projection is not what people want to see. I understand it sounds like a sweeping generalisation, but it’s mostly true. And of course, no one is denying that people go for superficial traits all across the board, but at the end of the day, we’re drawn to what we like.
@@theunknown5386 As I already mentioned, we operate in different ways.
@@theunknown5386 Why are you so grouchy in every comment?
Once I read this type of man (Pete Davison, Travis Barker, etc.) are the Pixi Manic Girl male version of rich woman. And I know can't unsee it