ROG Ally vs Nintendo Switch OLED!

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  • @Mrwhosetheboss
    @Mrwhosetheboss  Рік тому +995

    If you could only pick one of these for the rest of your life....which would it be? 🧐
    To see me test EVERY Nintendo Handheld ever: ua-cam.com/video/yIdoGu3lCIA/v-deo.html

    • @8daudiozz993
      @8daudiozz993 Рік тому +20

      1st comment here

    • @MyGoat_Hakimi
      @MyGoat_Hakimi Рік тому +15

      3rd

    • @ThatGuyMentos
      @ThatGuyMentos Рік тому +84

      I would pick Nintendo, I can't live without Mario, Zelda, Splatoon, and other classics.

    • @gabethecool
      @gabethecool Рік тому +12

      Probably one that runs windows or something else like Linux. The ROG handheld or the Logitech handheld would be good. If I didn't have to pay for it I would definitely get the steam deck.

    • @igris_games3454
      @igris_games3454 Рік тому +27

      Rog ally fr

  • @Insert_Epic_Name
    @Insert_Epic_Name Рік тому +8250

    Comparing the switch is an interesting situation but i think comparing it to the steam deck would have been a more interesting comparison.

    • @ayanrahman9371
      @ayanrahman9371 Рік тому +249

      yeah but obv the ROG is better as it literally does what the steam deck does but better

    • @NFSAndrei
      @NFSAndrei Рік тому +821

      @@ayanrahman9371 there I have to disagree with you, ROG might have better components, but what Steam has, is it's own software that was designed specificly with battery economy in it's mind and the support from the Devs, I am really curious if Cyberpunk will run on ROG Ally as smooth as on Steam Deck.
      Even tough the steam deck on paper is underpowered i would still pick it.

    • @CallMeVidd
      @CallMeVidd Рік тому +114

      @@NFSAndrei exactly this

    • @PSYCHOV3N0M
      @PSYCHOV3N0M Рік тому +72

      More logical to compare it to the Steam Deck.
      What a way to drop the ball. 😑

    • @npcimknot958
      @npcimknot958 Рік тому +17

      more ayeneos. switch is made for regular consumer who wants simple

  • @actuallyarnav
    @actuallyarnav Рік тому +2122

    love your content, but i really think you should've compared it with something like a steam deck, since thats the market the rog ally is targeting. comparing it wth the switch is kinda like apples to oranges, because nintendo and asus have two different segments they're targeting, nintendo targeting casual gamers and rog targeting those who want to play pc level games on the go. just a thought. love your vids though!

    • @D71219ONE
      @D71219ONE Рік тому +121

      Exactly, I like many Switch games, but Nintendo has been a toy company for over a hundred years. Their target has always been families with children, so they market to children. Asus is a computer component and hardware manufacturer who has never marketed to children.
      It would’ve been better to compare this to other handheld PCs.

    • @goyban
      @goyban Рік тому +48

      Yeah the whole time I was like what the hell is he talking about? =)) I'm waiting for ETA prime's comparison video. and retrogamescorpes to see understand how much power we have here.

    • @bobedibob3084
      @bobedibob3084 Рік тому +52

      also the fact that the switch is so underpowered most modern phones can emulate it with decent fps

    • @CallMeVidd
      @CallMeVidd Рік тому +42

      Tbh tech youtubers talking about gaming stuff feels like Verizon or Google Stadia at E3 where you can tell they don’t quite “get it”

    • @S0L4RFlare
      @S0L4RFlare Рік тому +22

      But you still can't ignore the vast amount of adults who use switch, like there is clearly a crossover between the demographic targetted by nintendo and Asus and it ain't children.

  • @paragjiwtani
    @paragjiwtani Рік тому +214

    I think a steam deck will be a more apt comparison since that is what the Ally is directly competing against

    • @EstherPosa-b9c
      @EstherPosa-b9c Місяць тому +1

      Hi from 2024 🎉

    • @podamairu9111
      @podamairu9111 22 дні тому +2

      ⁠@@EstherPosa-b9cme too😂😂

    • @aaserfarag5401
      @aaserfarag5401 21 день тому

      I think the point was to see which was better. The switch as a casual handheld or the ROG ally where you can play PC games on the go. The point is to compare the two concepts.

  • @ajs6488
    @ajs6488 Рік тому +23

    I don't usually leave comments but, your audio production is absolutely amazing. Your channel is a pleasure to listen to. ❤️💟👍👍

  • @marioysikax
    @marioysikax Рік тому +224

    9:33 Valve has done a lot of work for this kind of stuff specifically for years now. If you are playing on handheld, on TV or streaming, Big Picture mode should be used which changes everything to be useable with controller and touchscreen with more ease. What's shown on the video is regular Steam desktop overlay for games and that also completely changes when opening games through Big Picture.

    • @azenyr
      @azenyr Рік тому +37

      This and the big ignoring of the existence of the steam deck just proved that Arun didn't really make his full research before making this video. And also that he is probably not that big of a gamer himself, or at least not a PC gamer.

    • @Alirezarz62
      @Alirezarz62 Рік тому +12

      This is why I don't like his reviews when it comes to these tech stuff there are a lot of often important things he missed in the review

    • @marioysikax
      @marioysikax Рік тому +4

      ​@@azenyr I feel like there's huge value for these devices to be used by regular people. Because if normie who only plays with Switch or phone picks this up, what is their experience with this device? So I feel like they would've almost done disservice with review by doing too much research as consumer would have to do same research, just the framing of the video "which is better" with scoring system makes these kind of factual inconsistancies pop up harsh.
      So what I personally think happened is that they just opened and used this device, which means they most likely used Asus proprierary software to manage and launch game - which then means even Steam games get opened through desktop mode. This is why Steam Deck is so praised as it's all Big Picture essentially and to go to desktop you have to specifically go to desktop, so even new to PC gamers would not have these kind of issues. I don't know if there is or if Steam can implement it so that external launchers can launch games in Big Picture mode instead, so people using this device as sold, using Asus ROG build in software like Asus intents, this might be a problem normie tier users get with their device unless they realize to stop using the launcher and use Steam Big Picture instead.

    • @grasz
      @grasz Рік тому +5

      Plus the fact that he had games library on a tie had me burst out laughing.
      And on the same note on price including games, and accessories, most ppl already have a game library they can play out the box on ally and don't have to fetch out $50+ for a game like Nintendo and their accessories are no where near cheap. Ally would have more to come and third parties will start making plus existing things that already works with pc, works with Ally. ie Asus xg mobile gpu, external HD, keyboard/mouse.. heck u can turn it into a full on PC as your main and take it with you with just a usb c unplugged.
      He literally tried too hard to make these 2 a tie to create controversy

    • @Luctor
      @Luctor Рік тому +1

      ​@@graszI think he meant for game library what are the game options for that specific device. Not quantity, but what it is available. While the ROG has Steam and emulators, there are still other alternatives, while Nintendo is exclusive, you can't really play those games if you don't own one. Let's take in consideration that Arun owns lots of devices and lots of them are capable of running Steam, while the Switch is on its own.
      I totally disagree with him about prices, the switch is too much pricey than ROG+Steam games

  • @Titaniumgaemer-xu3ln
    @Titaniumgaemer-xu3ln Рік тому +3407

    The day Rog does not make a good device for gaming . That's the day Rog headquarters will be on fire

    • @husseinlol
      @husseinlol Рік тому +93

      Or it blew up

    • @SeriouS_OP
      @SeriouS_OP Рік тому +88

      Remember, No Taiwanese 💀

    • @lunchmeat7495
      @lunchmeat7495 Рік тому +43

      Usually at a bad price…

    • @devonmckinley
      @devonmckinley Рік тому +46

      You mean Asus?

    • @SaHOG
      @SaHOG Рік тому +16

      Better hope it doesn't use armoury crate

  • @KethavDoesStuff
    @KethavDoesStuff Рік тому +674

    This thing actually looks sick! I think you should have compared it to a Steam Deck, as it is targeted to rival that. Otherwise, great video as always! 😃

    • @JustChillinxd
      @JustChillinxd Рік тому +8

      I recommend watching the Ltt video that compares the rog and the switch. It goes much more in-depth

    • @brei.z
      @brei.z Рік тому +5

      @@JustChillinxd just went to comment the same thing :P

    • @Inksploded
      @Inksploded Рік тому +1

      Steam deck is a blatend rip off

    • @irvanray1898
      @irvanray1898 Рік тому +12

      @@Inksploded little guy must be smoking something before typing this lmao

    • @JdThe65th
      @JdThe65th Рік тому +6

      ​@@Inksploded bro
      You must be on smtn
      Steam deck came first

  • @squarestar326
    @squarestar326 10 місяців тому +30

    The whip cream on the rog had me screaming :" noooooo! " , out loud!😅 whyyyyyy!???

    • @EstherPosa-b9c
      @EstherPosa-b9c Місяць тому

      Hi from 2024 🎉

    • @RedReaper9996
      @RedReaper9996 2 дні тому +1

      I was dying laughing in my head when he tried eating it 💀

  • @itscutaru
    @itscutaru Рік тому +125

    I don't think the rog and the switch are competitors in the same consumer category to justify this match-up. Nintendo isn't really targeting the hyper invested gamers like the ROG brand in its entirety does. If anything, the ROG is in direct competition with the steam deck.

    • @typhoon_8086
      @typhoon_8086 Рік тому +7

      ​@Emma Madison true, but this was when a Portable PC was First Released into the Mainstream Market. Before the Steamdeck, Nintendo was the Sole Competitor of the Portable Console Market. But the Steamdeck revolutionized Everything because it offered PC Games with the same Portability of the Switch. This why the Steamdeck was Compared to the Switch, basically put, "Hey, we have a product that has the same Portability of the Switch...BUT can play PC Games". Now with the Ally it basically Needs to be compared to the Steamdeck because the Steam deck set the Universal Standard of Portable PC Consoles.

    • @anonymousinfinido2540
      @anonymousinfinido2540 Рік тому +1

      ​@@typhoon_8086 he is doing it because most of his audience are Apple consooooming Nintendo virgins.

  • @spectrickx1678
    @spectrickx1678 Рік тому +436

    Nevertheless, ROG seems to be doing quite well with their releases, hope they go strong.

    • @heshanandrews
      @heshanandrews Рік тому +3

      no

    • @idtwrk
      @idtwrk Рік тому +12

      If you don't count motherboards

    • @irvanray1898
      @irvanray1898 Рік тому +5

      if you don't count their motherboard division

    • @IdOnThAvEaUsE69
      @IdOnThAvEaUsE69 Рік тому +5

      I can't believe he didn't play Genshin on the ROG switch. For those who don't know, Genshin had been to teasing a Nintendo version for a while now, and it still hasn't come. I don't use a switch so I don't care much lol.

    • @m4nc1n1
      @m4nc1n1 Рік тому +1

      Not with Motherboards lol

  • @brandongabel
    @brandongabel Рік тому +189

    You should compare the Ally to the Deck. The Switch is hard to compare to a PC handheld considering it's not one, whereas the Deck is on the same level. The only similarities to all of them is that they're gaming devices and they're portable, which is honestly not enough to matter when there are so many other factors that do. Solid video tho

  • @Kali-Yuga-Peace-Corp
    @Kali-Yuga-Peace-Corp Рік тому +11

    Nintendo does have discounts, some times insane discounts, were a game costs 1-3 GBP before it goes back up after the sale is over. On the e-shop.
    There is also the resale value, as the cartidge retains more of it's value in the long run than a cd for example. You can just sell it after you are done playing it, if that is something you want to. You can also lend it to friend. You cannot do that with a download.
    Anyway, Great video as always. And as a casual player, a used Switch Lite for 100 was a easy choice for me. But you made it even more easy with poiting out the portability.
    Thank you.

    • @shubhamghoshal2939
      @shubhamghoshal2939 6 днів тому

      Do those kinds of sales happen for their first party games? Also, how frequent are they?

  • @r.4kram
    @r.4kram Рік тому +342

    Regarding the Asus Rog Ally, I'm really excited about its potential. However, I think I'm going to hold off on purchasing it for now and wait for further revisions to the hardware and software. As an early adopter, I've learned that companies often make improvements based on user feedback. Take the example of the improved fan in later orders of the Steam Deck. So, I believe it's wise to give Asus some time to refine their product before jumping in. Can't wait to see what they come up with in the future.

    • @bellowick
      @bellowick Рік тому +12

      Yeah, that stuck button looks particularly like it could be something that will rear it's head and require fixing in later revisions.

    • @CorbyCave
      @CorbyCave Рік тому +1

      This is how I approach nearly every new tech product.

    • @SCinspector
      @SCinspector Рік тому +3

      This is something I was always taught with cars. Never buy the first new model or refresh year. Always wait a year to see what bugs arise.

    • @sadmofo2011
      @sadmofo2011 Рік тому +3

      100%, the thing looks awesome especially if you limit it to 60hz and lower the graphics a bit to make the battery last. But I'll probably buy it near the end of the year instead.

    • @evacody1249
      @evacody1249 Рік тому

      Kind of like how the refine there motherboards.

  • @littlebit670
    @littlebit670 Рік тому +24

    If you're having problems with the Steam Overlay, try enabling Big Picture mode. It's a more controller-optimized interface for Steam. 9:37

  • @mospy1060
    @mospy1060 Рік тому +56

    The one of few tech channels that keeps me amused till the end especially with the well-written puns every episode😂❤

  • @yasserbanse
    @yasserbanse Рік тому +18

    Your videos always gives me this sort of happy feeling that I can't really express ❤

  • @gamerviktor2005
    @gamerviktor2005 Рік тому +45

    Remember to take into consideration, that most of the people that are going to buy the ROG, probably already have an ACC on steam. Therefore, they do not have to purchase every game, since they can use the same ACC, on the ROG.

    • @n.s-studios
      @n.s-studios Рік тому +4

      also most people are willing to have a portable charger with them on long trips anyway. Also for most things its literally a portable PC.

    • @azenyr
      @azenyr Рік тому +3

      Dude its a pc you don't have to purchase any game at all... 🤔 jokes aside, it can and will also emulate every game on the switch perfectly fine so the switch is not at all competitive with the Ally. I would still pick the steam deck tho. Windows is not a good choice for a handheld like this. Too heavy, too bloated for that.

    • @Muhluri
      @Muhluri Рік тому +1

      ​@@azenyr 🏴‍☠️

  • @raresradoi39
    @raresradoi39 Рік тому +189

    In terms of performance, rog is off to a great start, but that battery life is simply a deal-braker for a handheld/portable console. Since you're basically forced to have your Ally plugged in 24/7 if you want to play for a longer time, at that point you're probably better of with a PS5/PC. The battery kind of defeats the entire point of this device

    • @rolfrau5743
      @rolfrau5743 Рік тому +20

      i am a digital nomad, so i dont't have a constant home. in this case i cannot buy a pc or ps5 and just carry it around with me. so the asus rog ally is really a great invention for me.

    • @akstyles
      @akstyles Рік тому +4

      And the poor people dont have a house and live in the streets...and they prefer food than this handling console..whats the point of this??

    • @flyer38
      @flyer38 Рік тому +5

      I honestly dont mind having it plugged in all the time

    • @Thetenacityofkassidy
      @Thetenacityofkassidy Рік тому +1

      @@akstyles well the console is made for gaming yes i would rather have food than have it but i think its a good thing for gamers and if you can't afford it then just don't buy it as it is pricey

    • @infoseek2304
      @infoseek2304 Рік тому

      I prefer the flow x13 - its more powerful and also very portable

  • @Idkwiamco
    @Idkwiamco Рік тому +13

    14:45 arun broke their team by one pun😂😂😂😂

  • @jaynosowsky9708
    @jaynosowsky9708 4 місяці тому +3

    Omg!! The comfort goes 100% to the rog ally!! It's so light , plus it's is so nice to hold , you are out of your mind!!!!!!

  • @aeonturnip2
    @aeonturnip2 Рік тому +12

    5:45 Definitely a missed "that's what she said" opportunity...

  • @Ratyz1
    @Ratyz1 Рік тому +90

    I will definitely consider the ROG Ally as it seems great for the price that it offers especially for a hand held

    • @CarthagoMike
      @CarthagoMike Рік тому +10

      Honestly, price-wise the Steam Deck seems like a better deal.
      But it does look good.

    • @project77977
      @project77977 Рік тому +1

      😂 preinstalled malware it's in motherboard so u need to change whole motherboard it's high level malware you are not able to detect with any antivirus

    • @Yaqins
      @Yaqins Рік тому

      Nah, as for the portability goes, battery life is still the main factor. What's the point of having portable gaming PC if it only lasts less than 2hrs for gaming. Might as well buy gaming laptops.

    • @mikeacheampong
      @mikeacheampong Рік тому

      Go for the Steam Deck then, it's cheaper, has more polished OS and is better than the Ally in general

    • @YouGotTheL
      @YouGotTheL Рік тому +4

      ​@@CarthagoMike How lmao

  • @Celestiallide
    @Celestiallide Рік тому +52

    i think the accessories section was a moot point, not only is this device NOT OUT YET but it's also one in a hundred even among the hand held windows devices
    alongside that even with the switch's large cheap catalogue of accessories, anything running windows with bluetooth and/or a usb port will have 10x the accessory options
    personally when i get my ROG Ally I'm thinking of buying a pair of NReal Air glasses for an OLED almost-VR experience which is something the switch could NEVER hope to accomplish without the dinky battery pack NReal sells separately for like $80 to use them on consoles

    • @fistofthesnortstar
      @fistofthesnortstar Рік тому +6

      yeah, in the accessories section " the types of controllers" really had me scratching my head.

    • @igpblog3564
      @igpblog3564 Рік тому +1

      This is what I came to say, the switch has been out for so many years now, and since it's a Nintendo console, it has a million more users then a handheld "PC" device. Being so popular and being so old, of course it has so many accessories

    • @adamh7484
      @adamh7484 Рік тому +1

      And don't forget, an entire point went to the switch because he preferred the box it came in... I feel like this should have been a normal comparison without the points. Obviously, they wanted to make it a tie from the beginning... the video would have served better as a normal comparison video for anyone deciding between the two.

    • @F1ll1nTh3Blanks
      @F1ll1nTh3Blanks Рік тому

      I'd never have called Nintendo accessories cheap but each to their own.

  • @Th3_PizzaGamer
    @Th3_PizzaGamer Рік тому +16

    I bought an oled recently so thanks for this helpful comparison video this helps me so much

  • @Zerinior
    @Zerinior Рік тому +11

    5:30 He is definitely trying to keep his rating on that Feet Rating website

  • @20NBA01
    @20NBA01 Рік тому +47

    9:32 You could've used the Big-Picture Mode of Steam here. The Interface is then exactly like on a Steam Deck.
    10:17 You can change what every button does, in Steam independent from any game.

    • @azenyr
      @azenyr Рік тому +11

      It doesn't seem like Arun did any research at all besides a very specific script for this video. Many times it really felt like he had no idea what he was talking about

    • @MK8MasterJunjie
      @MK8MasterJunjie Рік тому +1

      @@azenyr I might buy it though.

    • @thatsplatcat861
      @thatsplatcat861 Рік тому +2

      You shouldn't have to change the buttons though, they should just...work

    • @20NBA01
      @20NBA01 Рік тому +1

      @@thatsplatcat861 they do. But very very rarely (like 1/1,000,000) they don’t. But then you can change it like I said

    • @xxzenonionnex7658
      @xxzenonionnex7658 Рік тому +2

      @@thatsplatcat861 you also shouldn't have to play games at sub 720 while barely hitting 30fps.

  • @prplwzrd1720
    @prplwzrd1720 Рік тому +45

    I feel like you should've brought in the ally's direct competitor the steam deck. Since, thats what they mention in most of their marketing.

    • @oddgbmo3036
      @oddgbmo3036 Рік тому +2

      But that's what almost everyone is doing already.

  • @meric12131415
    @meric12131415 Рік тому +13

    This is a rather interesting comparison I figured you'd compare the deck to the ally like every one else but this I'm enjoying so far

  • @Md-sl2sy
    @Md-sl2sy Рік тому +84

    I honestly think I'd go for the ROG if I had to make a choice. I'm really interested in emulation and all that. Plus I haven't really played a lot of games so it gives me a lot of options in games I can play. I mean imagine playing ps2/game cube games on the go.

    • @willywestsidee
      @willywestsidee Рік тому +5

      I'd go for the switch and just use a gaming laptop for my pc games

    • @G0A7
      @G0A7 Рік тому +11

      Buy the steam deck for that, its cheaper

    • @-TheRealThing-
      @-TheRealThing- Рік тому +1

      Been doing just that with the Steam Deck for over a year.

    • @thekianshow11
      @thekianshow11 Рік тому +1

      sane

    • @G0A7
      @G0A7 Рік тому +2

      @@AngelTorres-vu2iz Dont buy the highest tier its not worth It lol

  • @telsan4291
    @telsan4291 Рік тому +32

    Actually one of the biggest differences is the sleep & resume feature the switch & also steam deck both have. That is the real game changer and one the ROG ally doesn’t have which needs immediately

    • @rekahnmonis73
      @rekahnmonis73 Рік тому

      That could come with a pretty simple software update, just in a month alone the Ally has improved substantially with updates, Nintendo simply releases hotfixes and nothing substantial has even changed, there isn't even any themes to pick or buy

    • @therunawaykid6523
      @therunawaykid6523 8 місяців тому

      But you can just turn the power button off and the fan also turns off which works fine then you can resume playing your game when you want when you press the power button again

  • @mavericktee3
    @mavericktee3 Рік тому +4

    I'm loving the new background and not the usual studio background which was staying to get boring. Well done sir for thinking outside the box

  • @AadPratim0
    @AadPratim0 Місяць тому +2

    1:30 my fav tech youtuber playing a song from my fav musician

    • @KingBob-t9b
      @KingBob-t9b 11 днів тому

      Wat song?

    • @AadPratim0
      @AadPratim0 10 днів тому +1

      @KingBob-t9b dreamer by alan walker

  • @meessamshow
    @meessamshow Рік тому +26

    5:25 for free😳👀👀👀👀

  • @niklas3411
    @niklas3411 Рік тому +138

    At first i thought you cant compare the switch to the ally, because one is a propietary handheld console and the other one a pc handheld allrounder but nonetheless this review was amazing and surprised me very much! I think that out there are enough reviews that compare the steam deck with the ally. Your review was all about the gaming experience on the go as a whole and that was it what made this video so interesting. Good job and keep up the good work! Im loving your channel and the great quality fun videos ❤

    • @BembelinCz
      @BembelinCz Рік тому +1

      But you also forgot its double the price.

    • @SirFish12
      @SirFish12 Рік тому +1

      and the switch has better games@@BembelinCz

  • @ramikashour1089
    @ramikashour1089 Рік тому +17

    7:35 bro just roasted 100,000,000 people 💀

  • @AlanCyprysiak
    @AlanCyprysiak Рік тому +4

    Thank You for this comparison. I'm a Switch OLED owner and I was seriously considering buying an Ally, but I've also have a strong gaming laptop so I've decided that buying something which is not completely a portable console and not completely yhe strongest gaming device will be a mistake. Switch is more convenient to use when it comes to portability and speed of launching everything on a bugs free system.

  • @MrLeicon
    @MrLeicon Рік тому +74

    I don't think Arun is the target audience for this device, hence his discomfort in many of the Ally's strength. This device is not for console users looking into switching to windows but for pc and gaming laptop users like myself going for more portability. People used to gaming laptops will be perfectly happy with the battery life as we're used to having our gaming machines plugged to a wall. Some will even be happy they can use a power bank instead.😊

    • @joe-ox5rc
      @joe-ox5rc Рік тому +1

      Absolutely! I have both a high end 40 series pc and both next gen consoles im looking forward to the customization and just to experience my pc games in bed and relax and then again I don’t mind having it plugged into a wall lol

    • @natanhaelalvarado6137
      @natanhaelalvarado6137 Рік тому +5

      Good luck paying that much money for an almost experimental device, in no way this devices have the quality control and testing that Nintendo products have, for example, the Rog Ally is having serious issues like overheating and damage to the sd cards, it’s your choice but I don’t dare to spend money on this portables

    • @nobu191
      @nobu191 Рік тому +5

      @@natanhaelalvarado6137 for the pc gamers that can afford the price that is not a problem. About the SD cards, my ROG ally is working perfectly and I have no problems with the SD card. Also, ASUS is one of the world's best and most respected consumer electronics companies, so they should have good quality control, especially since the ROG is not a console but a handheld PC. The ROG and Switch are two different products designed for two different audiences.

    • @NovaTech1
      @NovaTech1 Рік тому

      @@nobu191 I have a switch but i can respect your opinion. It depends on person to person, nintendo isn't meant to be compared to serious gaming handhelds, they are family/kids-typish since family consoles is what they cater for. If they did really care they would definitely put alot of effort into the switch to make it that. Im not a serious gamer, and i like portability and like having friends play with me so yeah nintendo switch just suits me better than steamdeck, Aya Neo, Asus ROG Ally.

    • @josephl3602
      @josephl3602 Рік тому +1

      The comparison here was idiotic to say the least. Console vs PC Gaming handheld.. both built for a specific market.
      I love my Ally and didn't think twice about spending the money on it. I also spent around $400 upgrading it and adding accessories.
      I use my switch when I want to console game and my steam deck when I don't need the power but still want to game lightly.
      This video was an apples to oranges comparison and was only made to make the Nintendo fanboys salivate.
      Seems to have worked.

  • @vans9314
    @vans9314 Рік тому +9

    21:56 nice one arun nice one

  • @arrowtlg2646
    @arrowtlg2646 Рік тому +45

    Important to note that the ROG is on the bleeding edge of tech. Give it a year or two, and a lot of these shortfalls will improve. Chips will become more efficient, the EV race is improving the quality and capacity of Battieries and more. I'd expect these devices to be more powerful, and use less energy, while having more battery capacity in the near future

    • @gamesforlife2670
      @gamesforlife2670 Рік тому +2

      By that time the next nintendo console will release with what i assume would be cheaper than the ally

    • @irvanray1898
      @irvanray1898 Рік тому +2

      give it a year or two and the new ROG Ally will likely fry the CPU lmao, look at ROG Motherboard.

    • @Ignacio.Romero
      @Ignacio.Romero Рік тому +3

      Chips will become more efficient? The Ally is a lot less efficient than the Steam Deck that's more than a year old.
      Chips could get more efficient, but for today standard the Ally is inefficient and not the bleeding edge

    • @TerranigmaQuintet
      @TerranigmaQuintet Рік тому +1

      In a year or two all those people who bought the Ally for power will buy the latest hot powerful handheld that releases by that time.

    • @John_James
      @John_James Рік тому +1

      Asus gave me a messed up 300 dollar motherboard

  • @MaliciousZERO
    @MaliciousZERO Рік тому +4

    Ally plays games better, that's really all we need to know. I don't know why we are comparing a switch to a portable computer.

  • @D71219ONE
    @D71219ONE Рік тому +51

    12:47 FFVI, FFIX, BioShock, Mass Effect 2, Uncharted 2. There are absolutely timeless games that regardless of when you first play them, they will blow you away. Heck, I didn’t get around to FFIX until 2021, and it immediately became one of the best games ever in my opinion.
    If I play Elden Ring in 20 years, it will be just as amazing as it was last year. Elden Ring wasn’t great because of technological advancements.

    • @kahp1072
      @kahp1072 Рік тому +10

      Yep.
      Unfortunately, people care too much about graphics.

    • @cravenmarigold7750
      @cravenmarigold7750 Рік тому +7

      tbh I feel like this is coming from Aruns extremely casual point of view. A lot of gamers are like Arun who don't play older games especially when some of them are such a hassle to get playing (trust me, I'd know).
      But yes there are timeless games and I do think its a bit of a close minded statement honestly as someone who sees games as art. But I don't blame Arun for saying that especially because he definitely doesn't have time to play most games, let alone older ones that are hard to get running even on PC.
      There are some games that are better than their older counterparts but also games that are better than newer ones, and then there's just the ones in between that aren't neither worse, nor better, just good games.
      Just what Arun values is different than us, and I don't think he entierly means older games aren't just as good, but probably just not worth his time to get into with his lifestyle, and thats okay.

    • @D71219ONE
      @D71219ONE Рік тому +2

      @@kahp1072 But the crazy thing is that many older games still look better than many games today. No one tell me that Castlevania SotN or Super Mario World aren’t stunning. Heck, even BioShock and Uncharted 2 have way more atmosphere and intentional design than nearly all modern games.
      I remember my wife seeing me playing Skyrim when we were newly weds. She said it looked ugly, because it was getting old by that point. Then I convinced her to give it a try. A few months later I noticed she had put 115 hours into it. People that don’t play games because they don’t look good are usually just not open minded.

    • @Scion141
      @Scion141 Рік тому

      I still play PS1, PS2 and GBA every now and then. They are good, regardless of graphics.

    • @TheSultan1470
      @TheSultan1470 Рік тому

      ...but you can't discredit them.

  • @jachymzak95
    @jachymzak95 Рік тому +7

    1:06 I think that for their price, the versatility of different testable earphones on this, because of the varying ways earphones grip to the ear justifies them having the right “material” or feel…

  • @theodoros_1234
    @theodoros_1234 Рік тому +9

    3:32 Arun was listening to the best song here😂

  • @jaddenJack
    @jaddenJack Рік тому +4

    I like that you keep your videos entertaining, informative, and of great quality in terms of scenes and visuals. A lot of youtubers started out this way and then changed when they became popular, like Linus and mkhd. They lost their way and why they got popular in the first place. And you can tell. Because your videos get a lot of views vs. theirs. Don't ever change your formula bro, and keep innovating

  • @kevinsathler9424
    @kevinsathler9424 Рік тому +9

    I loved the video, but there was a small glitch when you talked about the operating system, by using steam you can actually activate the big picture option which is an optimization of steam for controls which can make your life infinitely easier.

  • @jarlarex
    @jarlarex Рік тому +52

    8:22 is a Forza Horizon 5 bug which is not necessarily a ROG Ally keypress issue.
    It happens to me on PC with same game occasionally.

    • @R3AL-AIM
      @R3AL-AIM Рік тому +1

      Correct, the game has always had issues lol

    • @astronaut5009
      @astronaut5009 Рік тому

      this Mrwhosetheboss dude has no idea about gaming 😂😂

    • @SanyammGandhi
      @SanyammGandhi 11 місяців тому

      ​@@astronaut5009because this isn't a gaming channel kiddo

  • @JudeIS
    @JudeIS Рік тому +8

    5:09 My Heart Fell With The ROG😰

  • @rexfordnana
    @rexfordnana Рік тому +4

    i subscribed for the icing on the cake edit. Great to see you put so much effort into your work!

  • @Animotionn
    @Animotionn Рік тому +8

    Arun, you should make a video explaining the Nintendo joystick drift. The background on it and how to solve it to be more exact. Thanks for your hard work! ❤

  • @damtai6358
    @damtai6358 Рік тому +30

    The Switch OLED model has 64GB. 32GB on the original Switch. Also, comparing the Steam Deck to the Switch OLED model will be a more fair comparison because they're competitors and have similar features.

    • @VADDY1
      @VADDY1 Рік тому +2

      Yeah bro said 32 GB then sponcered his neck fan I was like wtf??😂😂

    • @jojo_da_poe
      @jojo_da_poe Рік тому

      Not to mention you can get a microSD card which, for $40-$50, you can get 512gb.

    • @simonwest80
      @simonwest80 Рік тому

      And also game sizes - RDR2 is what over 100gb?? You can squeeze a good chunk of Nintys 1st party library on 64gb

    • @Zeda1002
      @Zeda1002 Рік тому

      Switch is old steam deck is new it's not fair comparison, wait for nintendo nextgen console and then you can compare it to steam deck.

  • @Skikopl
    @Skikopl Рік тому +8

    The editing is both hilarious and immaculate, love it!

  • @CarPitStop
    @CarPitStop Рік тому +39

    The switch was at 69% and weighed 420 grams. Coincidence? I think not!

    • @ketchcoreyvideos
      @ketchcoreyvideos Рік тому +1

      Oh so to say it is for adults..., no matter how juvenile

  • @NikiLawrance
    @NikiLawrance Рік тому +16

    Yo, are you talking about AICE3? That's sick! I actually copped one of those on Amazon for my mom, and it's been a lifesaver. She's been going through menopause and getting super irritable out of nowhere, but this thing has been helping her chill out and get back to her normal self. Cooling her down is definitely the right thing to do! Can't believe who figured out that, but it works! Big ups to you for putting us on to the latest tech, man!

    • @shre6619
      @shre6619 Рік тому

      Comment, hearted ??

    • @hiddenguy67
      @hiddenguy67 Рік тому

      huh

    • @NikiLawrance
      @NikiLawrance Рік тому

      @shre6619 Yeahhh!!! I'm super hyped!!! 😆

    • @NikiLawrance
      @NikiLawrance Рік тому

      @hiddenguy67 Hey, have you heard of a portable AC that can detect your mood and adjust the temperature and mode accordingly? Sounds like science fiction, right? But my mom tried it out and swears by it! She used to get all hot and bothered while cooking and doing housework, but now with AICE3, she stays cool and calm. It's like having your own personal emotional support system! Plus, it's perfect for those long gaming sessions when you need some heat therapy. Trust me, this thing is a game-changer!💥

    • @vegetalno
      @vegetalno Рік тому +2

      @@NikiLawrance why do u sound like an advertisement lol

  • @justaaccount8083
    @justaaccount8083 Рік тому +38

    This is a great comparison! As someone who has previously owned a switch yet now has a steam deck I've been reconsidering getting a switch again due to things like comfort, battery and getting games I can't play on pc due to how emulation isn't very optimal for the switch

    • @skotas
      @skotas 10 місяців тому +1

      Personally for me switch is the most comfortable device ever. You play for an hour and can't feel your hands anymore. Ally is a different story altogether.

  • @NitheshVG734
    @NitheshVG734 Рік тому +6

    19:36 lmao the moment you said battery, my Bluetooth headphones said “battery low”

  • @AvaregeUser
    @AvaregeUser 11 місяців тому +3

    as a sweaty MK8DX player I can say that in the thumbnail on the nintendo switch oled THAT EXACT TRACK is yoshis circuit
    And bro has smart stearing an using the AVERAGE combo. you were in wave 4 or 5 and the best combo at that time was (and still is) yoshi teddy buggy roler and cloud glider.

  • @ItsOwleo
    @ItsOwleo Рік тому +7

    You know its a good day when he uploads twice. And really appreciate that u try to remove any bias. I would have concluded that since the ROG looks cooler, its gotta be better.

    • @CarthagoMike
      @CarthagoMike Рік тому +1

      It is a bit disappointing the Steam Deck was not in the comparison though.

  • @ProCraftGamin
    @ProCraftGamin Рік тому +35

    I personally think the switch pro controller is the best, it feels very clean and high quality, but it makes it less portable so I usually only use joycons when I’m in handheld.

  • @lmaoidgaf
    @lmaoidgaf Рік тому +7

    12:00 why every tech UA-camr is LinusRolling us now!!!💀

  • @cassiuscartland
    @cassiuscartland 16 днів тому +1

    6:50 on the flip side, the benifit of the switch is you can change the joycon to 3rd party ones that are more comfortable and durable.

  • @khalkotauroi2535
    @khalkotauroi2535 Рік тому +29

    Love to see gaming focused content from Arun - Keep it up!

    • @fantasytky28
      @fantasytky28 Рік тому

      You know a channel is sold out when they praising so much shit about the lcd screen but in the end avoid mentioning that the ally is still having a lcd instead of oled.

    • @RossFaichney
      @RossFaichney Рік тому +1

      @@fantasytky28 WAIT WHAT

  • @TJ-un2zv
    @TJ-un2zv Рік тому +5

    I will be buying the ROG ALLY once it releases. Hand held windows device is the dream for me

  • @niteshnehalani8977
    @niteshnehalani8977 Рік тому +5

    15:17 "And my editors are gonna have a field day with that" 😭😭😭😭😭

  • @emmanuelmulongo4240
    @emmanuelmulongo4240 Рік тому +2

    your reviews are down-to-earth and objective. Beautiful

  • @VadikVadikVadik
    @VadikVadikVadik Рік тому +6

    21:43 air conditioner for room, but where the heat will go? Back to my room? wut

  • @linusnanor1531
    @linusnanor1531 Рік тому +4

    2:05 a moment to appreciate that we were watching MrWTB on a screen on a screen for a while there.

  • @Synclon
    @Synclon Рік тому +21

    For the Price I'm absolutely buying this 🔥, Thank You for the review as Always Arun!

    • @D71219ONE
      @D71219ONE Рік тому +1

      I’m shocked at how affordable they made it. Being able to emulate all of the greatest games of all time is a benefit that can’t be compared. If I’m playing on a long plane trip anyway, most planes have a power connection at your seat.
      I personally go the laptop route, because I use it for work and other volunteer side things, but if you don’t want a laptop, this is absolutely perfect.

    • @SUPREETH.
      @SUPREETH. Рік тому +2

      buy me one 😭lol

    • @WohaoG
      @WohaoG Рік тому

      Wait, did ROG release something that isn't good, however overpriced for once?

  • @roguetune03
    @roguetune03 Рік тому +1

    Its all a bag of golf clubs.. so many different metrics that mean different things for people using each in different use cases. Both platforms have pluses and minuses so videos like this are so helpful to see someone explore/compare many of these different use cases or why-do-i-care details. Thanks man I am now a subscriber.

  • @izzyskywalkerr
    @izzyskywalkerr Рік тому +5

    7:21 Arun using "drift" phonk (haha get it) music in the background 😂😂

  • @spookythedawg
    @spookythedawg Рік тому +24

    I think my biggest problem with the ROG is that it runs on windows, the Steamdeck runs on Linux and has so much software optimized for it. I'd say its a better investment mostly because it does not have windows' tons of Bloatware and actually optimized software

    • @marksapollo
      @marksapollo Рік тому +3

      It's pluses and minuses, I had a Steam Deck and it's Linux OS is a pain to use, but it's handheld mode worked brilliantly. Where as Windows is no where near as much a pain to use, but it's never been designed for a 7" screen so is impossible to read some of the menus etc. between the Two I'd rather the Steam Deck though even if Linux can be a pain, at least you can read it on the small screen!

    • @spookythedawg
      @spookythedawg Рік тому +3

      @@timlee6480 Linux does support lots of games actually, just not that many that use easy anti cheat. You can check in steam for the steamdeck checkmark and looots of games actually work on Linux without much trouble. I don't think the debloat is too nice in windows or easy especially as its getting more and more with the forced updates. As the other subcommenter said. Windows was never really made for 7 inches, while its easy to customize that in Linux (I own a switch and tried the steam deck and asus handheld), reading any sub menu on there is hard and I don't even need glasses, still got my binoculars
      I don't actually think that the mapping is the biggest issue? that should be sorted easily imo and didnt feel that bad. Another big steam deck plus is the touchpags, those are great for controlling the mouse, touchscreen is not that great on the asus at least (don't even know if steamdeck had touch lol)

  • @SomeCrumbs
    @SomeCrumbs Рік тому +6

    I really think it almost only just depends on the games you wanna play. If you want to play Mario games etc go with the Switch. If you wanna play your PC games anywhere go with the Ally.

  • @asrr62
    @asrr62 Місяць тому +1

    I just ordered the rog ally and i cant wait. I will enjoy it so much more than the switch

  • @fox1cake076
    @fox1cake076 Рік тому +20

    I was considering picking up a steam deck versus this mainly based on price, I already have a switch. This may require much more deliberation on my part 🙂

    • @natanhaelalvarado6137
      @natanhaelalvarado6137 Рік тому +4

      You should wait because the Rog Ally is having serious issues like overheating that is burning the sd cards, joystick deadzone, that’s the thing with this videos, they should tell you that the biggest difference between these two devices is control quality, experience making portables and long term reliability.

  • @efedevirgen5835
    @efedevirgen5835 Рік тому +17

    20:02 did you reallly just used forza 5 vs mario cart for battery test

    • @oscarg.5793
      @oscarg.5793 Рік тому

      Its becouse every game its pc 22:44

    • @efedevirgen5835
      @efedevirgen5835 Рік тому

      @@oscarg.5793 what

    • @oscarg.5793
      @oscarg.5793 Рік тому

      @@efedevirgen5835 every game is from pc so of course it will drain it battery faster

  • @dotails
    @dotails Рік тому +22

    The rog could run tears of the kingdom before it came out. Being able to do anything is more valuable to the extend that you should 800x600 and underclock for battery to keep the versatile option.

    • @macedraconik2136
      @macedraconik2136 Рік тому +1

      so could the nintendo switch. modding a switch to make it play unsigned games is as easy as 123

    • @vanevo897
      @vanevo897 Рік тому +4

      ​@@macedraconik2136 If you have a day one switch.... Or perhaps are you the most skilled solderer on this planet?

    • @dotails
      @dotails Рік тому +1

      @@macedraconik2136 uh modding switch would be very difficult and would barely run any modern games. It's effectively a phone, I even used an emulator on my phone to play switch games as evidence of this.

    • @macedraconik2136
      @macedraconik2136 Рік тому

      @@vanevo897 day one switches are more popular than you think lol

    • @macedraconik2136
      @macedraconik2136 Рік тому +2

      @@dotails modding a switch only requires a paperclip and a cable connected to a pc or even just a phone. Also what are you talking about? I'm just pointing out that you could play games before everyone else if you mod a switch.

  • @idekidek4715
    @idekidek4715 Рік тому +17

    0:51 we need the link for that video😂

  • @Baby_Jeebus
    @Baby_Jeebus Рік тому +8

    16:58 is anyone talking about how he said the switch has 32gb of storage when the OLED model has 64gb

  • @BadmashKing8
    @BadmashKing8 Рік тому +6

    Although the battery life is not that good and you may encounter some windows related issues. ROG ally is an amazing device! The fact that you can run most triple a games with high demands on medium settings and getting over 60 fps is astonishing!

  • @sanchitgupta5756
    @sanchitgupta5756 Рік тому +8

    I just love the gaming related videos. Keep up the good work mate

  • @YOJAYO
    @YOJAYO Рік тому +29

    Switch is better in my opinion

    • @MaryamQQQ
      @MaryamQQQ 8 місяців тому

      Opinion*

    • @FFxrechard
      @FFxrechard 6 місяців тому +1

      Gta 5 doesn't run on switch

    • @AloneSitoYTTM
      @AloneSitoYTTM 6 місяців тому +1

      Inpionion 💀

    • @Akshay..singh_0
      @Akshay..singh_0 4 місяці тому +1

      Agree it's cheap and cool for tech freaks and gamers who want to play classics..... If your problem is related to the price of the game or the O.S then just jailbreak it free games you can still play online and can run android

    • @vash2929
      @vash2929 3 місяці тому

      ​@@FFxrechard gta5 is boring

  • @thekobh
    @thekobh Рік тому +5

    the song is called "Dreamer" by Alan Walker 1:00

  • @bapi_crypto
    @bapi_crypto Рік тому +14

    2:15 man watching kurzgesagt video on gaming console 💀

  • @Blebako
    @Blebako Рік тому +22

    The accessory category should have gone to the Ally because you can attach a 4090 to it

    • @katzenjunge5869
      @katzenjunge5869 Рік тому +3

      And then what? Still play games at sub 60 FPS because the CPU cant keep up?

    • @gracelandtoo6240
      @gracelandtoo6240 Рік тому +2

      For 2½ k lmao

    • @raidev_
      @raidev_ Рік тому +3

      and now it's no longer portable

  • @tech_with_haider
    @tech_with_haider 4 місяці тому +1

    i found this vid exactly what i needed. i was trying to see which is better for my family and i found this video. and btw amazing

  • @kumuduchandrasiri9748
    @kumuduchandrasiri9748 Рік тому +5

    Well I would go with the ROG mostly for the audio , screen and the skins but it is fairly big and the weight but other than that the ROG really seems cool.

  • @Saroku1000
    @Saroku1000 Рік тому +6

    0:08 when I was 10 years old I dreamed of a handheld device with PS1 graphics

  • @andyenglish4303
    @andyenglish4303 Рік тому +4

    Honestly comparison like this make me eager for the next generation of dedicated handheld gaming consoles... even if that just means waiting for Nintendo's next system. The convenience and bespoke optimization of a console, but the power of a Steam Deck or ROG Ally.

  • @miguelm.teslafanboy8813
    @miguelm.teslafanboy8813 10 місяців тому +2

    Mrwhostheboss got me clickin' like a boss 😎💻

  • @DavyDave1313
    @DavyDave1313 Рік тому +10

    14:19 that’s all I ever wanted - Halo in your hands. Not cloud streaming but true dedicated hardware in your hands. I love this ROG device it reminds me of the Sega Nomad that I used when I was a kid so it’s nostalgic for me as well.
    But that 1.5 hour is ridiculous. I can game on my switch for hours no problem and with the large one piece controller I bought on Amazon that you insert the switch into, it fits perfectly in my giant hands.
    In the future if they get that battery life to 4+ hours while running the newest games buttery smooth, I will buy without hesitation. For now I’ll stick with my crappy looking doom eternal on the switch 😂

    • @bigcrashg
      @bigcrashg Рік тому

      not gone happen and youre crazy to think you can get 4 hours on a triple a title on battery. stick with the switch.

    • @fidansco6467
      @fidansco6467 Рік тому

      If you concern with battery life on rog ally.. maybe you just put the charger cable on rog ally.. and then happy play..😅.. most people playing game not only in outdoor or something.. they basically play handheald cause they tired play infront monitor.. and you can grab rog ally .. and play where ever you want.. on sofa,bed, and maybe in bathroom😅.. so ..if you wanna play game handheald with good graphic.. buy it rog ally.. if you like firts party nintendo just grab the switch.. (but you can play almost all game switch on rog ally WITH EMULATION app.. but its just like illegaly where you get the game(note the app of emulation tho)

  • @jumentoqueanima
    @jumentoqueanima Рік тому +25

    The switch might not be as powerfull today, but it's really fun and in 2017...... Man, an HD handheld was just game changer!

    • @dillonbanks609
      @dillonbanks609 Рік тому +7

      It wasn't powerful when it released in 2017 either tho lol

    • @jumentoqueanima
      @jumentoqueanima Рік тому

      @@dillonbanks609 What are you talking about? It was a mega handheld.

    • @ahsan.v8
      @ahsan.v8 Рік тому +7

      It's just about the control the console companies have on the overall experience. Any modern smartphone,even midrangers,blow the Switch out of the water in terms of processing power. Only if mobile game companies made better games than just greedy cash grab mobile games,mobile phones would've replaced the need for any handheld console. Just attach a controller to your phone and there's your console. Honestly it just infuriates me knowing how powerful my smartphone is but I can't play any good games on it (except a few ofcourse).

    • @168original7
      @168original7 Рік тому +5

      No one pays 60 dollars for mobile games that's why. And most people have phones that are worse than the switch in terms of processing power. Mobile developers always target the lowest end hardware to reach the highest number of players. A snapdragon 730g with 4gb of ram isn't faster than the switch at all but it is what developers like activision (cod warzone mobile) are targeting with their games.

    • @dillonbanks609
      @dillonbanks609 Рік тому

      @@168original7 not really the last year phones are more powerful than switch. The iPhone 14 pro max and Samsung 23 ultra blowing it out of the park in processing power

  • @elementDollarSign
    @elementDollarSign Рік тому +11

    Keep Up The Great Work Arun! Quality Video as always❤

  • @PragyanSutradhar
    @PragyanSutradhar 11 місяців тому

    The word 'DRIFT' came out of his mouth and the phonk, really good

  • @FootballMemes4uWEEKLY123
    @FootballMemes4uWEEKLY123 Рік тому +5

    3:50
    “Which is dumb not fun”
    Arun - 2023

  • @gaxmarshall2265
    @gaxmarshall2265 Рік тому +5

    I’m glad for this comparison because i was really unsure of what to get between these two so that’s actually helped! Thank you

    • @kyohiromitsu4010
      @kyohiromitsu4010 Рік тому +3

      It doesnt have nintendo games. So why would I get this micro laptop?

    • @therunawaykid6523
      @therunawaykid6523 8 місяців тому

      @@kyohiromitsu4010but then again you can emulate all the Nintendo games you want such as: switch, Wii u, Wii, Nintendo 64, 3ds, ds, GameCube plus the fact it is a full portable pc that can play pc games really well hd use the internet for browsing and UA-cam

  • @SingamsettyMukesh
    @SingamsettyMukesh Рік тому +5

    1:30 Song of the brand ambassador of ROG

  • @brianoh8192
    @brianoh8192 Рік тому +2

    I ENJOYED THIS VIDEO SO MUCH SHEESH. Thank you!

  • @bronstedking
    @bronstedking Рік тому +15

    2:37 whyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @SylviaChuang-h7e
    @SylviaChuang-h7e Рік тому +4

    I'm stoked to be waiting for your next video, dude! By the way, I'm rockin' the AICE3 you talked about and it's freakin' awesome! Whenever my heart rate starts to climb, that thing really starts to work its magic!

  • @Ixey2k
    @Ixey2k Рік тому +9

    With the the ROG being bigger yh it would have more comfort but with a switch instead of changing the joycon colour with shell replacement and stuff
    You can also just get what they will normally call a protective case or shell
    So u can get ones that make the switch more bulking make it fluffy and all different textures some are expensive but you can also get them for cheap
    The one i have was £16-19
    But you can get for for like 4-8 pounds as well!
    :)