Not our totally unbiased James, no no, I wont have it, he is an independant totally unbiased centralist.. He is not far left, its just everyone else is far Right, like those Far right Green's...
So you must be 100x more outraged at Tories and Reform then? I guess this means you will vote Labour for the rest of your life given the alternatives.... Wow, thanks for letting us know
Bit disingenuous James. Clearly it's not about what the gift is, so much as the who and why. Very naive of any politician to accept gifts and be then be surprised when it's regarded with suspicion
Yeah if it wasn't to sway their perception, were the companies just giving out free stuff because they enjoy giving out free things to people? Because I'll take some free stuff if the fact politicians were the recepients is irrelevant.
Yeah. Imagine if the press had got so animated about it at the time, a year ago. But for some reason they've decided to make this a huge issue now. Trying to muddy the waters between legal gifts and corrupt Tory ppe contracts.
@@verystripeyzebra well he accepted box tickets to arsenal just as they are discussing a football association. We could say that this gift was a small bribe to sway kier into taken on some arsenal staff into the association which would be…corruption
Or indeed....the left wing side of the labour party. Its almost like he's performing mental gymnastics to defend his unwavering support for the new Labour contrarians. This was happening last week too....is the news so slow that there's nothing else to talk about? Nah.... he's been asked to do this or he's feeling guilty about being conned I'd wager.
Starmer's is chicken feed compared to Tory grift. Boris's £800,000 loan, Jacob Rees-Mogg staunchly supporting Brexit, and making £7 million off it, Michelle Mone and Matt Hancock's sister making millions out of defective PPE for COVID, maintenance costs for listed Tory residences with moats paid as parliamentary expenses... need I go on? The Labour party are amateurs at this sort of thing.
It's ckear James will defend labour when they're doing things he rightly condemned the tories for doing. Unfortunately this means James is presenting in a completely biassed manner, which can only call into question everything that he says, sorry James you gave away your credibility again today.
And here we are. James O'Brien only really made his name during the coalition/Tory years and seemed outraged at the lack of propriety, corruption and dishonesty. Many were wondering how he would pivot when there was finally a Labour government...and here you are. He represents the same "footballification" delusion he accuses others of. Defending Labour accepting bungs from anyone. Because that is what they are. Rich people don't shower favours without expecting contracts, policies, or sometimes promises to scrap policies.
@@bridget9396 There's just one - MINOR detail you may not be familiar with... The banks own the corporations - the same banks to whom the government is in debt to with a currency that's only backed by its own debt and the continued belief by the masses that it has value. Physically it's utterly worthless. More to the point the banks want their money back and since we can't even begin to pay it back, let alone it's interest; they expand their corporate controls and fund through them. So tell me - you think of a single politician prepared to utterly destroy the nation as a consequence?
No objection to people donating to MPs or political parties as long as there are no strings attached. No cost to Taxpayers if they get freebies from wealthy people. These donations to Labour MPs and the Labour Party did not break Parliamentary Rules and the Laws have not been.broken! These MPs are not hiding the gifts and donations they are declaring them openly. Rules should be changed if the majority of MPs in all parties (without party whips being involved) vote to abolish freebies
@@christinebrown2765 Oh come on - nothing is free and these "gifts" come with a price. If the ceo of a company donates a million to your cause - you're not going to put out a law that hinders their means for profit.
You should be very angry because Starmer said he wanted to clean up politics. He has shown on numerous occasions a terrible sense of judgement by accepting these "legal" donations while the average Labour voter and electorate is suffering so much because of the last government actions. And as the old saying goes, there's no such thing as a free lunch!
They are not double standards though. You just can't see the difference between accepting a gift as a gift or accepting gifts as bribes like Tories do.
The "media" in this case being LBC where the preceding show is hosted by the biggest Tory, to pick just one. I'd have a straight face saying the same 🤷♂️
'As soon as you tell me what I'm supposed to be angry about I'll ask you to compare it to what went before'. If I get angry at a case of modern slavery would James reply with 'Well, it was worse before, so there'?
Your missing the point. They should not be accepting at all, both parties. The rules need changed. If they can't live on their salaries, then how can they expect someone living else to live on 12k.
@@firebyrd437 Nope. Giving someone a present is not corruption just as long as a government contract isn't given in return. Rolls Royce used to give the queen a new car every year absolutely free. Is that corruption???
@@patarciepaul it can be misconstrued as a bribe, whether it is or isn't. This is why the corporate world has rules about accepting gifts and hospitality, and it largely stopped in the late 90s because of anti-bribery legislation. How this doesn't apply in politics absolutely baffles me.
@@Strawberry_Pez Starmer has gone to the effort to explain why it wasn't. However, they should be held to the same rules as anyone else. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt as they are a new government and have not had chance to change anything yet.
Nothing to see here folks. Only our poor millionaire PM taking freebies from a benevelent billionaire. There is nothing wanted in return. Didn`t you know that billionaires always give away their money for nothing. E-mail Ali he may give you some as well.
You're supposed to be angry about donations from dodgy hedgefunds. They dont do that for nothing. They're buying something. Then there's all the tacky gifts on top.
Did we vote for think tanks, lobby groups and hedge funds - No. Do they enhance democracy - No Do they have a different agenda to to the wishes of the British People - Who knows? it is rarely transparent and the lack of transparency is a significant risk I think.
This is why I always knew that James' disdain for Jeremy Corbyn and his whole faux outrage towards the left of the Labour Party was *always* about him, his cushy establishment media job and his socioeconomic status. He absolutely reeks of Centrist Dad energy. As it's been said a million times in a million different ways, it's not about the gifts given to the politicians. It's about the gifts given BY the politicians in return. Nobody does something for nothing. And if you've spent the last 14 years cutting the Tories to ribbons for their 'mates rates' style of government, you have no credibility at all if you're not INCREDIBLY suspicious of what Starmer stands to gain from all these gifts.
@@TeddyG-y6sit wasn't leaked. The info comes from the published register of members interests. It's been in the public domain for years. You can look at the declarations yourself on the UK parliament website. It's in pdf though.
It was wrong when Boris Johnson did it and it’s wrong when Kier Starmer does it. Now you’re falling prey to the “footballification” stuff you’re always slagging others off for.
@@EnquiringMinds-vx8gb It was a late declaration not failure to declare. That's why its only a minor infraction and not requiring investigation. You don't cover something up by declaring it a bit late. I know the press need to try and find a story but this just looks desperate.
@@kevinsmarts9953 Who says I haven't been? For as long as I have been a bit more politically savvy I've seen the dangers of gifts or acting on behalf of Lobby's.
@@ivorlongshot Then I have to ask why you've held your tongue on this subject for all that time. What about this legal and declared gift has you commenting on UA-cam about it when you didn't say anything about the undeclared and questionably legal gifts in the previous government or various others over the years?
I’ve been voting Labour since 1970. I’m a Party member. I expect Labour politicians to live on the income we pay them for a full-time job. Nothing else will do.I expect them to refuse gifts and treats from people who might be seeking access or influence.
Boris couldn't get away with being given a slice of birthday cake so I don't see why Kier should get away with anything... especially with Impartial Sue Gray advising him
@@MatthewSmith-j1l I have a lot of respect for Sue Grey holding Boris to account - one of the few people that did. If it wasn't for people like Sue Grey, our democracy would be heading the same way as the US even faster. I still have grave concerns for it.
@@Badgerbeard One of the few people? Impartial Sue Gray was the ringleader of the massive partygate circus which included many in the media and the legal system.
Just because it's been going on for years or the values involved are much less than their opposition took doesn't mean it should continue. I can't accept gifts from companies I work with as it would potentially be seen as a conflict of interest. Are politicians above that? This isn't the odd bottle of wine at Christmas, this is meaningful amounts of gifting, and people aren't giving their gifts for nothing.
Undeclared back handers buying influence and the Tory press don't care Vs declared donations, no evidence of influence (yet) and the Labour are the devil. Give your head a wobble.
I'm not trying to be combative, but let us take this individuals contributions as sincere and innocent. People determined to engage with people who care about looks and clothes etc. Get those people's vote. Have our leaders hold their heads high in front of other world leaders. Is this REALLY the most terrible thing regarding judgment you can think of? I see you about to rock up to a meeting with the king in your M&S suit, and I say to you, "Let me sort this out for you." When track and trace was a thing?! When PPE contracts were awarded to people's pub owning neighbours. And you are looking at Labour?!!
I think the problem with this is Lord Starmer was very critical of Tory mp gifts and freebies. He also campaigned on integrity and honesty. Now couple this with austerity 2.0 or just the lack of positive spin from labour, well can you really blame people for being angry? Of course I understand it’s no different than other mps have done in the past, but I think the key word is “optics” it’s a massive political blunder much like the winter fuel allowance.
undeclared on the right, not a word said by the right. declared on the left but complained about by *most* party members and a load of Labour MPs. You're a hypocrite.
You're clearly blind, James. Making excuses, and saying the last lot were worse, doesn't change what's happening now. Especially while the rest of us are told that we have to deal with cuts. MORE CUTS after 15 years of cuts. Yet Labour's MPs getting handouts for favours. Yes, favours. We're not going to start pretending that companies just hand out freebies and tickets and clothes, from their goodness of their hearts now, are we? You might be that naive, but don't insult the rest of us.
Different rules when it's your tribe, eh James? Honestly these political pundits are hilarious with their blatant hypocrisy... Make a career out of bellyaching about every single thing from the "opposing" party but it's no big deal when it comes to their own. I'm pretty much a mix of views... Some left, some right... But I voted Labour to get Rishi out. And it seems to have made no difference to anything. If you vouch for someone you're meant to hold them to the highest standards, not make excuses because you want to "win" the argument.
Its clearly a gift for influence, they should be allowed to take gifts at all. It doesn't matter that the rules allow for it, its something that shouldn't be allowed. Not for anybody
Starmer is a tory in a red tie. The party exec threw out the real socialists. Liberals are the same, tories together, so they all behave the swen together. Shameful. I won't be a member of Labour ever again
So you don’t want an economy? You want Zimbabwe.. Even China now recognise that wealth is only created by capitalism. To drag millions out of poverty they allowed a few to become millionaires and billionaire.
@@johnrussell3961 being manipulated by them is not working with them now is it? If the rich paid their fair share of taxes there would be more than enough to have equality and growth. We will wait to see if tory in a red tie Starmer does Labour policies or not , to create prosperity, decency and equality
@@johnrussell3961Lol the commentors on LBC are all socialists mate if you have not noticed yet. All they talk about on here is taxing the rich more.. 😂
@@johnrussell3961 Millionaires and billionaires on a currency that has no actual value outside of the debt it has accrued, you mean. More to the point, OP is pointing out that if the Torys were to have done the same, Labour would be heckling and jeering them with every slur out there and you know it. And I say that as someone who knows the parties only difference is their name and ribbon colour - they all answer to the same few regardless.
I like that "loveless landslide" idea - it is exactly that, very clever. We can all easily recall our own anecdotes in the run-up to the election. I remember chatting with my wife, the only thing we had any confidence about in terms of our voting direction was "anyone but Tory". How sad it was, then, that the official opposition had become Tory Lite, with nothing to offer but more of the same. And here we are ...
@@CBM902Q We know this isn't the point. It's the optics. If Labour hadn't have targeted pensioner winter fuel payments, I doubt this story would've had any legs. It is because of this policy that Labour find themselves in hot water. Therefore it demonstrates how tone deaf they are now in power - just like the Tories were.
This isn't a new story it's fake outrage by the media, if you don't want them accepting hospitality then write to your MP to change the rules. I'd rather it be declared and above board rather than under the table
James simply can’t be well. To be this infatuated with Liebour and to not have a balanced view is rather sad to see. He really needs to seek professional help.
OK sorry O’Brien but this is the sort of cronyism that the Tories partook in for 14 years and with correct condemnation from yourself. Labour shouldn’t be indulging in the same behaviour.
That’s the political system, parties rely on ‘donations’ I am less bothered about a Labour peer buying Starmer a suit than the Russians or Big Oil/ tobacco buying influence with the other parties
Is it being treated as a much bigger story than it actually is? Yes. Were the Tories magnitudes more guilty of this kind of behaviour and worse? Absolutely. Is it still a morally incorrect thing to do? Yes. Would you be able to accept tens of thousands of pounds of gifts in any other job without suspicions of corruption/impropriety? Absolutely no way. Being less wrong doesn't make you right
"Would you be able to accept tens of thousands of pounds of gifts in any other job without suspicions of corruption/impropriety? Absolutely no way." Thats fine but ONLY IF the Tory crimes were reported with magnitudes more condemnation but we know all the Tory press and the BBC said less about millions of tax payer money being stolen than Kier receiving gifts. I will accept the condemnation but ONLY if the people giving the condemnation showed consistency - which none of them have.
What influence did Keir Starmer have over the last 5 years? He was not a government minister, and his party was not in government. Compare the less than £20,000 that Keir Starmer received each year for 5 years, with the £200,000 that Robert Jenrick received in just one year when he WAS a government minister, or the £198,000 that Kemi Badenoch received last year alone, me thinks there is a lot of faux outrage going around.
@@wolfen210959 Listen mate, I understand you're dyiing to paint me as some kind of Tory, but I'm not. Pointing out that they aren't infallable doesn't make me the enemy, two things can be bad simultaneously.
The point is Starmer spent every minute scrutinising the tories about ethics and cronyism yet turns out to have had the largest amount of personal donations in parliament since 2019 and has given several donors top jobs or governmental perks.
No he wouldn't - he is apolpletic about the lies and cheating the tories did. Labour is tested to a ridiculously higher standard than the tories in the main because of the client media that is out to undermine Labour by whatever means they can dig up. They always have and they always will. The problem is that the media is controlled by rich buggers that want to swing the neadle of power towards their interests.
James ur moral compass is broken, I agree with all you said about the tories. But if you are not equally critical of the labour party then you come across as disingenuous and not a free thinker. I really question your ability to free think and your intellect, was your intellectual dismantelmant towards the tories fueled by personal gains? Surely you can't be that switched on to their wrong doings and defend the Labour the way you are now?
@@verystripeyzebra No mate that is my astute observation. Similarities is too close. Do you seriously think Kier Starmer does not claim the same expenses that Boris did? Do you think Starmer panders to his donors any differently than Boris did? Do you think Starner will borrow money off the banks and drag the country further into debt just like Boris did? Do you think the lives of the people will improve under Starmer? Here we go again. I vote for no political party and never have since i was able to vote 16 years ago..
@ibexdnb. I can sense your pleasure from here. There’s more satisfaction here than genuine outrage. You can’t believe in anything, and there’s not much fun in that - day to day.
He’s a Labour donor who got a Downing St pass. Also Boris never said he was perfect and people know it. Keir sets himself up for a fall when he puts himself forward as a paragon of integrity and virtue. If you don’t know that this is hypocrisy James then we can’t help you.
@dc. As a British traditional socialist ( not a Communist) I can see no argument against a parent’s right to pay for private education. ( I prefer common sense over dogma . .) What we are against is the influence and privileges of the so-called Public schools. Boarding schools should be abolished anyway, because they are dangerous, cruel and unhealthy. The evidence against them is overwhelming. - and has been for generations. Children should stay with their families.
What you're missing is that people will inevitably join the two (freebies vs winter fuel payments) together. It has little to do with whether or not rules or laws have been broken. It's all about the look and the spin. It's politics. People aiming their career at public serice should be well aware that previous activity will be scrutinised: therefore they really shouldn't accept any gifts at all, regardless of legal issues. The tories are bad at economics (regardless of what they claim). Labour is just bad at politics, because politics involves considering all the things you've talked about this morning. Public servants should not accept gifts of any sort at all, from anyone. They are adequately paid. People are going to make comparisons, fair or not.
Yeah james has proved to me now 100% bias to labour if you get angry about boris and wall paper then you should about clothes and glasses for kier's wife its litterally the same thing.
Politicians on the take is nothing new, but politicians who said they would be different and won votes on that premise? And then proceed to be on the take..........That is where the story is
Of course they could. But they won't, because the Red Tories' snouts are in the same trough. Only by voting for proper principled progressive left-wingers, and not 'Sirs' like Starmer, will we ever get the Labour Party we deserve.
@mickreaddin4979 (who suggested): Labour could pass a law within a week: no more freebies, gratuities etc etc for all MP's. @prspicaciouscritic replies: Read the news: they did. Last Friday, the prime minister and other senior Labour ministers said they would no longer accept donations for clothing.
How can you be so against the conflict in the middle East currently, I am avoiding trigger words here. And at the same time defend the party who is currently fueling the conflict? James, today I see that you are a disingenuous person who speaks from both sides of his mouth.
I don't subscribe to the argument that two wrongs make a right..ie, just because Boris did it bigger, doesn't mean that Kier has done nothing wrong. What we don't know is what donors get in return. As a member of the public, how does Lord Waheed Alli get a pass to Downing Street and I don't? In fact..how did he become Lord Alli.....Tony Blair made him a Lord because of his donations to the Labour Party.
You are looking at life that we care more about tories then labour. But it doesn't matter who is incharge we dont like unfairness. Maybe they have not broken the rules but they are stretching to the limit. Both tories and labour have done this and unless the rules change so will liberal and reform will do the same. But it still not right
Yes, James, let us, the general public, try and remember the past few years when such egregious activities involving huge amounts of dosh were carried out almost on a daily basis.
Freebies issues only contribute to the dissatisfaction . Underlying it all is the fact of the small amount of the voting population that voted for the government with their particular brand of management. That will not go away . The prime minister is now not appearing anywhere that a public voice can be spoken.
This is the worst take I've ever seen from James. These aren't donations, they're bribes. Just because it's not illegal doesn't mean it's right or ethical. Just because it's not as bad as the tories (yet) doesn't make it ok.
James O'Brien defending the indefensible Labour leadership. Suggest then - reading up about Ethics, Independence, not being behold to others due to compromising ones leadership position. Furthermore, perception is everything - anyone accepting gifts in this way and yet telling the public effectively times are tough. All on the back of Starmer telling us how he's bringing back credibility to politics - yeah right.
Corruption in public life is bad, especially of those who are paid by the public purse to represent their voters. It should be rooted out, and donations from the privileged 1% to MPs and political parties made illegal.
Sorry James, your tribalism is in fact showing here. Your what-aboutism arguments miss the point entirely. Everyday people are tired of politicians from all sides of the fence taking gifts, donations and hand outs from donors that clearly have a motive other than “because he’s me mate”. You’re better than this, pal.
This man is so biased…..you’re a radio host ….try and be neutral and not use your slot on LBC as your own political soapbox ..Can’t stand to listen to him.
James, you're missing the point. Once you start taking gifts you are on the road to corruption and influence from different entities. Clothes today and mortgages and loans tomorrow. It does not matter if you are Labour or not.
James, the next time you get angry at 'client journalists' on the Right, remember this period and cringe with embarrassment. I hope you're paid enough to debase yourself by tonguing Starver's ring every day.
It feels like the right-wing media held back on criticising Labour during the election, only to hit them hard now that they're in power-over issues their preferred party handled even worse. The fact that this stuff is even coming up indicates how desperate they are to have something to talk about.
whataboutism doesnt cut it james. you used to be better than that, and thats why i unsubscribed. your blind sycophancy to new new labour sticks in the craw.
@@patarciepaul the top and bottom of it is that both parties clearly act the same way and have a disregard for how it is perceived by the general public.
It's not so much about wrongdoing as it is about degrees of wrongdoing. These things are like weeds. The more they are ignored, the more they tend to grow! It's been less than two months and already standards are slipping!
James O Brien stumbling clumsily past his hypocrisy .Does he honestly think that listeners are fooled by his laborious rhetoric and that he wouldnt be screaming about the criminal disgusting behaviour of the party if it was the Tories. How long did he bang on about partygate and skip past currygate.
James would be levitating with pure rage had this been the Conservatives and he knows it
Not our totally unbiased James, no no, I wont have it, he is an independant totally unbiased centralist.. He is not far left, its just everyone else is far Right, like those Far right Green's...
And a sanctimonious bully.
Well there is the £75,000 donation to honest bob jenrick to get mad at. The papers don’t seem interested that the money comes from a fake company.
declaring gifts is not a crime, the Tories hide it and lie regularly
Who cares that’s the way life works
I'm a leftie James. And let me tell you. This is very important. Gifts and donations seek influence.
So you must be 100x more outraged at Tories and Reform then?
I guess this means you will vote Labour for the rest of your life given the alternatives....
Wow, thanks for letting us know
What if the gift was from a union leader who wanted stronger worker rights in return. Would that not be alright?
@@henryburton6529 Green/Independent and ethical and transparent. Does that help with the feedback you wanted?
The donator is a billionaire Labour peer in the houses of parliament. What more influence could he possibly have?
@@henryburton6529 Whataboutism? really?! "Oh no we can't call out corruption on our team.. look at the other worst people oooo!" Grow up.
Bit disingenuous James. Clearly it's not about what the gift is, so much as the who and why. Very naive of any politician to accept gifts and be then be surprised when it's regarded with suspicion
Yeah if it wasn't to sway their perception, were the companies just giving out free stuff because they enjoy giving out free things to people? Because I'll take some free stuff if the fact politicians were the recepients is irrelevant.
I agree. I also want to see Green hold Labour accountable over this very publicly.
Yeah. Imagine if the press had got so animated about it at the time, a year ago.
But for some reason they've decided to make this a huge issue now.
Trying to muddy the waters between legal gifts and corrupt Tory ppe contracts.
@@verystripeyzebra well he accepted box tickets to arsenal just as they are discussing a football association. We could say that this gift was a small bribe to sway kier into taken on some arsenal staff into the association which would be…corruption
@@King-balloon yes, if all your wild assumptions are true. Your assumptions are doing all the heavy lifting there.
Just imagine James’ righteous indignation had it been the Tories 😂
why would it have been? since the outrage was when torries lied about it all..labour have not nor is anything wrong with this
Or indeed....the left wing side of the labour party. Its almost like he's performing mental gymnastics to defend his unwavering support for the new Labour contrarians. This was happening last week too....is the news so slow that there's nothing else to talk about? Nah.... he's been asked to do this or he's feeling guilty about being conned I'd wager.
just imagine, when the tories were taking the exact same freebies, NOTHING said by the right - that's you and people like you. Can you say hypocrite?
Starmer's is chicken feed compared to Tory grift. Boris's £800,000 loan, Jacob Rees-Mogg staunchly supporting Brexit, and making £7 million off it, Michelle Mone and Matt Hancock's sister making millions out of defective PPE for COVID, maintenance costs for listed Tory residences with moats paid as parliamentary expenses... need I go on? The Labour party are amateurs at this sort of thing.
Totally different, the tories were bought by the rich, Johnson paid for nothing.
It's ckear James will defend labour when they're doing things he rightly condemned the tories for doing. Unfortunately this means James is presenting in a completely biassed manner, which can only call into question everything that he says, sorry James you gave away your credibility again today.
Exactly why the BBC showed him the door.
The man...sorry, the guy is SLIME
Of course he is a completely biased presenter
James is a neo liberal, he will side with this right wing labour.... he hated corbyn who didn't take such things and offered real change...
Too right . Double standards. O’Brien is a centrist’s mouthpiece.
And here we are. James O'Brien only really made his name during the coalition/Tory years and seemed outraged at the lack of propriety, corruption and dishonesty. Many were wondering how he would pivot when there was finally a Labour government...and here you are. He represents the same "footballification" delusion he accuses others of. Defending Labour accepting bungs from anyone. Because that is what they are. Rich people don't shower favours without expecting contracts, policies, or sometimes promises to scrap policies.
Well said. I had wondered how well O'Brien's "values" would withstand Labour Party transgretions. Here we have the answer. He's a hypocrite.
I don't know why Labour don't BAN all personal donations/gifts, forget Declaration make it a FRAUD crime, that would shake up the Tories !!!!
@@bridget9396 There's just one - MINOR detail you may not be familiar with...
The banks own the corporations - the same banks to whom the government is in debt to with a currency that's only backed by its own debt and the continued belief by the masses that it has value. Physically it's utterly worthless.
More to the point the banks want their money back and since we can't even begin to pay it back, let alone it's interest; they expand their corporate controls and fund through them. So tell me - you think of a single politician prepared to utterly destroy the nation as a consequence?
Its labour that has been taking donations you Dohnut, that’s the whole story
No objection to people donating to MPs or political parties as long as there are no strings attached. No cost to Taxpayers if they get freebies from wealthy people.
These donations to Labour MPs and the Labour Party did not break Parliamentary Rules and the Laws have not been.broken! These MPs are not hiding the gifts and donations they are declaring them openly. Rules should be changed if the majority of MPs in all parties (without party whips being involved) vote to abolish freebies
It would hurt them more.
@@christinebrown2765 Oh come on - nothing is free and these "gifts" come with a price. If the ceo of a company donates a million to your cause - you're not going to put out a law that hinders their means for profit.
You should be very angry because Starmer said he wanted to clean up politics. He has shown on numerous occasions a terrible sense of judgement by accepting these "legal" donations while the average Labour voter and electorate is suffering so much because of the last government actions. And as the old saying goes, there's no such thing as a free lunch!
If this guy didn't have double standards he'd have no standards at all.
They are not double standards though. You just can't see the difference between accepting a gift as a gift or accepting gifts as bribes like Tories do.
Yes you right no standards at all
He says with a straight face that there is no left/liberal media as he sits there and defends Keir Starmer and Labour without question.
Are you honestly calling James O'Brien Left wing? He was more venomous towards Jeremy Corbyn than most of the right wing media
The Guardian for one. No left media, indeed.
The "media" in this case being LBC where the preceding show is hosted by the biggest Tory, to pick just one.
I'd have a straight face saying the same 🤷♂️
@@hobanagerik I can open the guardian right now and see multiple articles critical of Labour
Labour is not left... Trust me, most of us lefties hate Keir for this too.
Its not the rights and wrongs
Its the hypocrisy
'As soon as you tell me what I'm supposed to be angry about I'll ask you to compare it to what went before'. If I get angry at a case of modern slavery would James reply with 'Well, it was worse before, so there'?
If modern slavery was legal in the UK you'd have a point.
@@kevinsmarts9953 It is and the government tacitly supports it by allowing mass immigration.
@@kevinsmarts9953 I have one now
Your missing the point. They should not be accepting at all, both parties. The rules need changed. If they can't live on their salaries, then how can they expect someone living else to live on 12k.
Why not??? A gift is a gift and just as long as nothing is wanted in return such as a government contract then they are totally fine.
@@patarciepaulit's corruption
@@firebyrd437 Nope. Giving someone a present is not corruption just as long as a government contract isn't given in return. Rolls Royce used to give the queen a new car every year absolutely free. Is that corruption???
@@patarciepaul it can be misconstrued as a bribe, whether it is or isn't. This is why the corporate world has rules about accepting gifts and hospitality, and it largely stopped in the late 90s because of anti-bribery legislation. How this doesn't apply in politics absolutely baffles me.
@@Strawberry_Pez Starmer has gone to the effort to explain why it wasn't. However, they should be held to the same rules as anyone else. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt as they are a new government and have not had chance to change anything yet.
James not reading the room here.
The room not reading how they're being played by the Tory media.
The gifts were declared a year ago, why the outrage now.
See also: client journalism.
James O Brian is payed for by who ever is in power
@@krisradjpaul278 If the Tories were paying him when they were in power then they should ask for their money back...
Perish the thought that centrists would criticise their golden boy, for the rest of us the leaf is flaking off.
Nothing to see here folks. Only our poor millionaire PM taking freebies from a benevelent billionaire.
There is nothing wanted in return.
Didn`t you know that billionaires always give away their money for nothing.
E-mail Ali he may give you some as well.
You're supposed to be angry about donations from dodgy hedgefunds. They dont do that for nothing. They're buying something. Then there's all the tacky gifts on top.
Did we vote for think tanks, lobby groups and hedge funds - No.
Do they enhance democracy - No
Do they have a different agenda to to the wishes of the British People - Who knows? it is rarely transparent and the lack of transparency is a significant risk I think.
Why are people who weren't bothered last year, suddenly so bothered now though?
@alfsmith4936 Yeah, that is true, and the Tory party does not receive the same level of scrutiny the Labour party does either..
@@alfsmith4936 Nobody is bothered. We are bothered by Labour and James' hypocrisy...
@@ibexdnb2879 Hypocrisy is often shown by contradicting yourself - as you have done here!
This is why I always knew that James' disdain for Jeremy Corbyn and his whole faux outrage towards the left of the Labour Party was *always* about him, his cushy establishment media job and his socioeconomic status. He absolutely reeks of Centrist Dad energy.
As it's been said a million times in a million different ways, it's not about the gifts given to the politicians. It's about the gifts given BY the politicians in return.
Nobody does something for nothing. And if you've spent the last 14 years cutting the Tories to ribbons for their 'mates rates' style of government, you have no credibility at all if you're not INCREDIBLY suspicious of what Starmer stands to gain from all these gifts.
At least they declared what they had received!
@@SandraT1107when it suited them, not before they were elected….
@@SandraT1107penning it into a book doesn’t make it any less corrupt, it’s open bribery.
These donors are buying influence.
@@SandraT1107only because the information was leaked
@@TeddyG-y6sit wasn't leaked. The info comes from the published register of members interests. It's been in the public domain for years. You can look at the declarations yourself on the UK parliament website. It's in pdf though.
It was wrong when Boris Johnson did it and it’s wrong when Kier Starmer does it. Now you’re falling prey to the “footballification” stuff you’re always slagging others off for.
Boris did not declare donations, Keir declared them much earlier and more clearer than the rules require. These things are not the same.
@@kevinsmarts9953because he was found out
@@kevinsmarts9953
No Kier is still finding stuff he forgot to declare.
Also Racheal Reeves falsely declared clothing and had to apologise.
@@EnquiringMinds-vx8gb It was a late declaration not failure to declare. That's why its only a minor infraction and not requiring investigation. You don't cover something up by declaring it a bit late.
I know the press need to try and find a story but this just looks desperate.
@@EnquiringMinds-vx8gbReeves also declared a twenty two billion pound black hole, but now nobody can find it !!!.
You're supposed to be angry that our politicians are on the take. It needs to stop.
Then you should have been angry about it for decades, why just now?
@@kevinsmarts9953 Who says I haven't been? For as long as I have been a bit more politically savvy I've seen the dangers of gifts or acting on behalf of Lobby's.
Yup agree,it’s a simple as that
@@ivorlongshot Then I have to ask why you've held your tongue on this subject for all that time. What about this legal and declared gift has you commenting on UA-cam about it when you didn't say anything about the undeclared and questionably legal gifts in the previous government or various others over the years?
@@kevinsmarts9953 Ha, you don't know what I've done over the past 25 years I've been involved politically.
Is James playing dumb about this, or is he actually just dumb about this?
He doesn't like when his lot are dodgy like the last lot.
His mask has come off.
No he is not, I agree with him. The right have mastered the art of qualifying nonsense for something of worthy.
@@MzeeMoja1And you most likely agree with free movement of anyone, and don't see a problem with it.
Just dumb.
O brien is so indocrinated he will never see anything wrong with anything labour does. He's quite pathetic.
Defending the indefensible ..please James ,listen back to your pre election rants and recognise your hypocrisy on a grand scale.
even James couldnt suffer his own show. Britains second biggest twt behind his other hero Alastair Campbell
journalistic accountability has been entirely subverted. it needs to be remade and bought back stronger for our modern time. and we need it now
I’ve been voting Labour since 1970. I’m a Party member. I expect Labour politicians to live on the income we pay them for a full-time job. Nothing else will do.I expect them to refuse gifts and treats from people who might be seeking access or influence.
I admire people who lead by example - We have to question people that don't.
Boris couldn't get away with being given a slice of birthday cake so I don't see why Kier should get away with anything... especially with Impartial Sue Gray advising him
@@MatthewSmith-j1l I have a lot of respect for Sue Grey holding Boris to account - one of the few people that did. If it wasn't for people like Sue Grey, our democracy would be heading the same way as the US even faster. I still have grave concerns for it.
@@Badgerbeard One of the few people? Impartial Sue Gray was the ringleader of the massive partygate circus which included many in the media and the legal system.
No, I'm sorry but optics do matter, whether you like it or not. Especially in this social media age.
The fact he follows politics so deeply and doesnt realise both sides are going to f over the common person is hard to believe
Just because it's been going on for years or the values involved are much less than their opposition took doesn't mean it should continue.
I can't accept gifts from companies I work with as it would potentially be seen as a conflict of interest.
Are politicians above that?
This isn't the odd bottle of wine at Christmas, this is meaningful amounts of gifting, and people aren't giving their gifts for nothing.
If this was the Tories now you'd be going to town in your condemnation of them.
Yes, of course he would. Hypocrisy was expected on this.
Undeclared back handers buying influence and the Tory press don't care Vs declared donations, no evidence of influence (yet) and the Labour are the devil.
Give your head a wobble.
Imagine the righteous indignation 😂
Except if it was the tories, the rules breaking would be transparent, and the sums involved would be vast. Thanks for playing, Barbie.
For what? Recieving donations, or something *even worse?*
As a Labour voter. It's just a disappointment for their lack of judgement and reinforcing the feeling political professionals live in another world.
I'm not trying to be combative, but let us take this individuals contributions as sincere and innocent. People determined to engage with people who care about looks and clothes etc. Get those people's vote. Have our leaders hold their heads high in front of other world leaders.
Is this REALLY the most terrible thing regarding judgment you can think of? I see you about to rock up to a meeting with the king in your M&S suit, and I say to you, "Let me sort this out for you."
When track and trace was a thing?! When PPE contracts were awarded to people's pub owning neighbours. And you are looking at Labour?!!
I think the problem with this is Lord Starmer was very critical of Tory mp gifts and freebies. He also campaigned on integrity and honesty. Now couple this with austerity 2.0 or just the lack of positive spin from labour, well can you really blame people for being angry? Of course I understand it’s no different than other mps have done in the past, but I think the key word is “optics” it’s a massive political blunder much like the winter fuel allowance.
undeclared on the right, not a word said by the right. declared on the left but complained about by *most* party members and a load of Labour MPs. You're a hypocrite.
You're clearly blind, James. Making excuses, and saying the last lot were worse, doesn't change what's happening now. Especially while the rest of us are told that we have to deal with cuts. MORE CUTS after 15 years of cuts. Yet Labour's MPs getting handouts for favours.
Yes, favours. We're not going to start pretending that companies just hand out freebies and tickets and clothes, from their goodness of their hearts now, are we? You might be that naive, but don't insult the rest of us.
The usual O'Brien desperate mental gymnastics to absolve Saint Keir of anything and everything
Different rules when it's your tribe, eh James? Honestly these political pundits are hilarious with their blatant hypocrisy... Make a career out of bellyaching about every single thing from the "opposing" party but it's no big deal when it comes to their own. I'm pretty much a mix of views... Some left, some right... But I voted Labour to get Rishi out. And it seems to have made no difference to anything. If you vouch for someone you're meant to hold them to the highest standards, not make excuses because you want to "win" the argument.
"I can't see what your problem is because whatabout whatabout whatabout whatabout." It's another way of NOT LOOKING.
What do these donors want in return? What man allows another to pay for his wife's clothes? How rich is free gear kier? Is he on the poverty line?
What if the answer is 'they want people to see the PM wearing their clothes'?
Free Gear Kier Lol
@@drummingtildeath He's not David Beckham.
@fumbleBumble82 responses like that only serve to highlight the fact that you don't want to answer the question
Re the clothes, perhaps what they got in return was having their clothes seen by the rich and powerful.
Its clearly a gift for influence, they should be allowed to take gifts at all. It doesn't matter that the rules allow for it, its something that shouldn't be allowed. Not for anybody
It is the Hypocrisy
"Labour" shouldn't be manipulated by billionaires.
Starmer is a tory in a red tie. The party exec threw out the real socialists. Liberals are the same, tories together, so they all behave the swen together. Shameful. I won't be a member of Labour ever again
So you don’t want an economy? You want Zimbabwe..
Even China now recognise that wealth is only created by capitalism. To drag millions out of poverty they allowed a few to become millionaires and billionaire.
@@johnrussell3961 being manipulated by them is not working with them now is it? If the rich paid their fair share of taxes there would be more than enough to have equality and growth. We will wait to see if tory in a red tie Starmer does Labour policies or not , to create prosperity, decency and equality
@@johnrussell3961Lol the commentors on LBC are all socialists mate if you have not noticed yet. All they talk about on here is taxing the rich more.. 😂
@@johnrussell3961 Millionaires and billionaires on a currency that has no actual value outside of the debt it has accrued, you mean.
More to the point, OP is pointing out that if the Torys were to have done the same, Labour would be heckling and jeering them with every slur out there and you know it. And I say that as someone who knows the parties only difference is their name and ribbon colour - they all answer to the same few regardless.
Because Labour said they were going to be different. If they are struggling this early, it does not bode well.
I like that "loveless landslide" idea - it is exactly that, very clever.
We can all easily recall our own anecdotes in the run-up to the election.
I remember chatting with my wife, the only thing we had any confidence about in terms of our voting direction was "anyone but Tory".
How sad it was, then, that the official opposition had become Tory Lite, with nothing to offer but more of the same.
And here we are ...
Did Labour break break any rules?
@@CBM902Q We know this isn't the point.
It's the optics.
If Labour hadn't have targeted pensioner winter fuel payments, I doubt this story would've had any legs.
It is because of this policy that Labour find themselves in hot water.
Therefore it demonstrates how tone deaf they are now in power - just like the Tories were.
It's a pretty bad look to be accepting luxury items as gifts when the rest of us are being told to tighten our belts 🤷♂
This isn't a new story it's fake outrage by the media, if you don't want them accepting hospitality then write to your MP to change the rules.
I'd rather it be declared and above board rather than under the table
Two wrongs don’t make a right ! You can’t excuse Starmer behaviour just because others have done similar
James simply can’t be well. To be this infatuated with Liebour and to not have a balanced view is rather sad to see. He really needs to seek professional help.
OK sorry O’Brien but this is the sort of cronyism that the Tories partook in for 14 years and with correct condemnation from yourself. Labour shouldn’t be indulging in the same behaviour.
It's the political game they play. None of them are different...
You obviously voted Labour, didn't you? You have been played and you need to accept it.
Has James ever thought about how much influence does this donor have on the Labour Party at all?
Is he a real journalist?
He’s a Starmer moonboy what do you expect?
That’s the political system, parties rely on ‘donations’ I am less bothered about a Labour peer buying Starmer a suit than the Russians or Big Oil/ tobacco buying influence with the other parties
Tell me, what influence?
@@henryburton6529Brexit
@@henryburton6529well enough to get a downing st pass for starters
Is it being treated as a much bigger story than it actually is? Yes.
Were the Tories magnitudes more guilty of this kind of behaviour and worse? Absolutely.
Is it still a morally incorrect thing to do? Yes.
Would you be able to accept tens of thousands of pounds of gifts in any other job without suspicions of corruption/impropriety? Absolutely no way.
Being less wrong doesn't make you right
Well put!
💯
Excellent analysis - Socratic method to understanding and knowledge perhaps.
its either illegal or it isn't, which is it?
"Would you be able to accept tens of thousands of pounds of gifts in any other job without suspicions of corruption/impropriety? Absolutely no way."
Thats fine but ONLY IF the Tory crimes were reported with magnitudes more condemnation but we know all the Tory press and the BBC said less about millions of tax payer money being stolen than Kier receiving gifts.
I will accept the condemnation but ONLY if the people giving the condemnation showed consistency - which none of them have.
He's set his stall out and will defend Labour to the death.
It doesn't take a genius to see that these gifts are buying influence, James, this is incredibly shoddy from you.
What influence did Keir Starmer have over the last 5 years? He was not a government minister, and his party was not in government. Compare the less than £20,000 that Keir Starmer received each year for 5 years, with the £200,000 that Robert Jenrick received in just one year when he WAS a government minister, or the £198,000 that Kemi Badenoch received last year alone, me thinks there is a lot of faux outrage going around.
@@wolfen210959 Listen mate, I understand you're dyiing to paint me as some kind of Tory, but I'm not. Pointing out that they aren't infallable doesn't make me the enemy, two things can be bad simultaneously.
@merkaree. How much influence can you buy with a few frocks ? You are obscuring the principle with this kind of argument.
The point is Starmer spent every minute scrutinising the tories about ethics and cronyism yet turns out to have had the largest amount of personal donations in parliament since 2019 and has given several donors top jobs or governmental perks.
😂😂
You wont get through james' thick skull plus he's a bought and paid for labour puppet so forget it
It's a bit like the snp up here,holier than thou and all that.
Evidence?
@@SandraT1107 have you been under a rock for the last month or so?
Oh James, put down the bottle. Literally the most insufferable person on LBC.
You did not have to add…on LBC to your statement.
They aren't gifts or freebies. Let's call them what they are. Bribes!
Exactly
Sorry mate, I'm a lefty, and if this was the Tories you'd be apoplectic with rage....
No he wouldn't - he is apolpletic about the lies and cheating the tories did. Labour is tested to a ridiculously higher standard than the tories in the main because of the client media that is out to undermine Labour by whatever means they can dig up. They always have and they always will. The problem is that the media is controlled by rich buggers that want to swing the neadle of power towards their interests.
Give James his due....... his mental gymnastics are amazing!
James ur moral compass is broken, I agree with all you said about the tories. But if you are not equally critical of the labour party then you come across as disingenuous and not a free thinker. I really question your ability to free think and your intellect, was your intellectual dismantelmant towards the tories fueled by personal gains?
Surely you can't be that switched on to their wrong doings and defend the Labour the way you are now?
Laughable hypocrisy this bloke is a joker
I will fall out of my chair the day I hear James admit that Labour and all Politicians play the same game the same way..
He is the anti Kuensberg. Will excuse anything Labour do.
Well they don't. Similarities, to a degree, but the same ...that's the Tory propaganda line.
@@verystripeyzebra No mate that is my astute observation. Similarities is too close. Do you seriously think Kier Starmer does not claim the same expenses that Boris did? Do you think Starmer panders to his donors any differently than Boris did? Do you think Starner will borrow money off the banks and drag the country further into debt just like Boris did? Do you think the lives of the people will improve under Starmer?
Here we go again.
I vote for no political party and never have since i was able to vote 16 years ago..
@@ibexdnb2879 yes. Things will improve.
@ibexdnb. I can sense your pleasure from here. There’s more satisfaction here than genuine outrage. You can’t believe in anything, and there’s not much fun in that - day to day.
O'Brien's shameless Labour spinning is now getting embarrasing to listen to.
Speaking of hsndouts. Our feudal Lords get 6.4 Billion in housing benefits payments. 😂
This is the real scandal.
Which brings us neatly back to Tony Blairs cash for peerages scandal.
@@jasonallen6081 It's appears you get knighted for defending the wealth divide.
He’s a Labour donor who got a Downing St pass. Also Boris never said he was perfect and people know it. Keir sets himself up for a fall when he puts himself forward as a paragon of integrity and virtue. If you don’t know that this is hypocrisy James then we can’t help you.
I feel like a freezing traveller invited in for a warm only to be offered a seat beside the fridge.
James Obrian loves the sound of his own voice
Er....he's a radio DJ hosting a talk show. I'm not sure it's a great job for a shy retiring quiet type.
A talk show host who talks? Oh No!
James we are not talking about conservatives, we are talking now about labour excepting bribes, do 2 wrongs make a right????
Trust James to defend champagne socialism. He once criticised private schooling then sent his own kids to one.
Leftist hypocrisy…don’t do as I do… do as I say…
@dc. As a British traditional socialist ( not a Communist) I can see no argument against a parent’s right to pay for private education. ( I prefer common sense over dogma . .) What we are against is the influence and privileges of the so-called Public schools. Boarding schools should be abolished anyway, because they are dangerous, cruel and unhealthy. The evidence against them is overwhelming. - and has been for generations. Children should stay with their families.
Imagine if the tories were held to 1/10 the standard that Labour are held to.
you can't use Tory corruption to justify Labour corruption though
Imagine if the tories got away with 1/10 of what labour have.
sorry way worse 100/1
So your point is, 'Labour are corrupt but not as corrupt as the Tories'. That's ok then, 😂
@@Gambit771 What have Labour got away with? How does its value compare to the millions Tory mates and donors got away with?
What you're missing is that people will inevitably join the two (freebies vs winter fuel payments) together. It has little to do with whether or not rules or laws have been broken. It's all about the look and the spin. It's politics. People aiming their career at public serice should be well aware that previous activity will be scrutinised: therefore they really shouldn't accept any gifts at all, regardless of legal issues. The tories are bad at economics (regardless of what they claim). Labour is just bad at politics, because politics involves considering all the things you've talked about this morning.
Public servants should not accept gifts of any sort at all, from anyone. They are adequately paid. People are going to make comparisons, fair or not.
Yeah james has proved to me now 100% bias to labour if you get angry about boris and wall paper then you should about clothes and glasses for kier's wife its litterally the same thing.
Should be taxing them not taking freebies from them.
Politicians on the take is nothing new, but politicians who said they would be different and won votes on that premise? And then proceed to be on the take..........That is where the story is
You don't have to be annoyed it's a case of calling out bad practice
Labour could pass a law within a week: no more freebies, gratuities etc etc for *all* MP's. We can talk about second jobs, donor money later.
Of course they could. But they won't, because the Red Tories' snouts are in the same trough.
Only by voting for proper principled progressive left-wingers, and not 'Sirs' like Starmer, will we ever get the Labour Party we deserve.
we could effectively reduce the number of MPs by 400 ..........and keep pensioners warm through winter ...
@mickreaddin4979 (who suggested): Labour could pass a law within a week: no more freebies, gratuities etc etc for all MP's.
@prspicaciouscritic replies: Read the news: they did. Last Friday, the prime minister and other senior Labour ministers said they would no longer accept donations for clothing.
How can you be so against the conflict in the middle East currently, I am avoiding trigger words here. And at the same time defend the party who is currently fueling the conflict? James, today I see that you are a disingenuous person who speaks from both sides of his mouth.
Forked tongue syndrome.
James o brien up keirs backside as usual!
Only on Tuesdays
He loves the sound of his own voice.
This guy talks about other peoples bias and in the same breath describes the issue being the ‘price of starmers spectacles’ - incredible 🤡
Oh look. It's another recently purchased bot farm account.
@@Cannon_Fodder_Russians haha nice try sweetheart. Disagreeing with Labour doesn’t make me a bot.
You lot are entertaining though so thanks for that 😂
@@Cannon_Fodder_Russians absolute pratt
Lord Bamford employs in excess of 10,000 people. The trouble is they all work in the Private Sector.
I don't subscribe to the argument that two wrongs make a right..ie, just because Boris did it bigger, doesn't mean that Kier has done nothing wrong.
What we don't know is what donors get in return. As a member of the public, how does Lord Waheed Alli get a pass to Downing Street and I don't?
In fact..how did he become Lord Alli.....Tony Blair made him a Lord because of his donations to the Labour Party.
It is not how much taken by individual politicians, it is a matter that they took it, morally wrong
You are looking at life that we care more about tories then labour. But it doesn't matter who is incharge we dont like unfairness.
Maybe they have not broken the rules but they are stretching to the limit. Both tories and labour have done this and unless the rules change so will liberal and reform will do the same.
But it still not right
Watch "James O'Brien's Epic Rant on Wallpapergate" if you want to hear obrien say the complete opposite!
Yes, James, let us, the general public, try and remember the past few years when such egregious activities involving huge amounts of dosh were carried out almost on a daily basis.
The hypocrisy of JOB is cringeworthy!
Freebies issues only contribute to the dissatisfaction . Underlying it all is the fact of the small amount of the voting population that voted for the government with their particular brand of management.
That will not go away . The prime minister is now not appearing anywhere that a public voice can be spoken.
This is the worst take I've ever seen from James. These aren't donations, they're bribes. Just because it's not illegal doesn't mean it's right or ethical. Just because it's not as bad as the tories (yet) doesn't make it ok.
James O'Brien defending the indefensible Labour leadership. Suggest then - reading up about Ethics, Independence, not being behold to others due to compromising ones leadership position. Furthermore, perception is everything - anyone accepting gifts in this way and yet telling the public effectively times are tough. All on the back of Starmer telling us how he's bringing back credibility to politics - yeah right.
What an absolute 🔔end.
Corruption in public life is bad, especially of those who are paid by the public purse to represent their voters. It should be rooted out, and donations from the privileged 1% to MPs and political parties made illegal.
Sorry James, your tribalism is in fact showing here. Your what-aboutism arguments miss the point entirely. Everyday people are tired of politicians from all sides of the fence taking gifts, donations and hand outs from donors that clearly have a motive other than “because he’s me mate”. You’re better than this, pal.
This man is so biased…..you’re a radio host ….try and be neutral and not use your slot on LBC as your own political soapbox ..Can’t stand to listen to him.
James, you're missing the point. Once you start taking gifts you are on the road to corruption and influence from different entities. Clothes today and mortgages and loans tomorrow. It does not matter if you are Labour or not.
James, the next time you get angry at 'client journalists' on the Right, remember this period and cringe with embarrassment. I hope you're paid enough to debase yourself by tonguing Starver's ring every day.
Haha yes. He’s pathetic
it’s embarrassing at this point
@@crayontom9687 Yet here you are, listening and commenting - adding to the algorythm.
James is a certified narcissist.
This episode is pure whataboutism
“I worry that i’m wrong, but then i realise I’m not” - James O’Brien
It feels like the right-wing media held back on criticising Labour during the election, only to hit them hard now that they're in power-over issues their preferred party handled even worse.
The fact that this stuff is even coming up indicates how desperate they are to have something to talk about.
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whataboutism doesnt cut it james. you used to be better than that, and thats why i unsubscribed. your blind sycophancy to new new labour sticks in the craw.
James you are so far up kier backside your starting to look like him
only 1 person out ther who cant see labour are whrong is this guy for real no wonder his ratings are crashing
Access James. They’re buying access.
Are they though??? It's a bit early to make an assumption like that.
@@patarciepaul the top and bottom of it is that both parties clearly act the same way and have a disregard for how it is perceived by the general public.
@@patarciepaul after the Downing Street pass fiasco it really isn’t.
It's not so much about wrongdoing as it is about degrees of wrongdoing. These things are like weeds. The more they are ignored, the more they tend to grow! It's been less than two months and already standards are slipping!
James o’Brien the apologist in chief.
They get freebies and the pensioners get freezing 🥶.
James O Brien stumbling clumsily past his hypocrisy .Does he honestly think that listeners are fooled by his laborious rhetoric and that he wouldnt be screaming about the criminal disgusting behaviour of the party if it was the Tories. How long did he bang on about partygate and skip past currygate.
I don’t really care but isn’t starmer a millionaire ? Surely he doesn’t need freebies ?
James O'Brien defending Labour doing exactly the same things as he pilloried the Tories for. He has always been a tool.