James O'Brien tries to find out what a Brexit voter thinks they voted for | LBC
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- It's déjà vu as James O'Brien, for the first time in ages, tries to find out what a Brexit voter thinks they voted for.
This video clip is from an LBC show presented by James O'Brien on 04/11/22.
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It's so scary that so many people in this country have such strong political feelings on subjects they know absolutely nothing about.
Unfortunately, this is how Brexit was won - it was twisted to became an emotional argument that you felt was right, even if any point of expert analysis from any independent body kept telling everyone it was a bad idea and wouldn't help at all for a meaningful period of time.
Factors _can_ come out of left field to sway that analysis - but to take advantage of those small swings of positivity, you needed a government who wasn't asleep at the wheel. Demonstrably they had been in a deep sleep for many years.
Unfortunately, was it ever thus? I well remember conversations I had before the Referendum with acquaintances (formerly friends!) who intended voting Leave. Reasons for leaving the EU included a London cabbie wanting to keep Pakistani Uber drivers out of the U.K. and another refusing to be told what shaped bananas he should eat.
@@Palewhitegamer I do not believe Cameron’s Government were unaware of the possible consequences of leaving the EU, check his and Osborne’s warnings before the Referendum. However, he was more worried about UKIP taking Tory votes.
It's insanity like this that makes you wonder if it'd actually be better to have a cabal of intelligent people just making the decisions.
@@rasmachris94 Such as the EU Council? When the Referendum result was announced, I thought Universal Suffrage had a lot to answer for.
Man really came on LBC with the argument, "My dad and someone I used to work with told me how to think."
Yep and his Dad didn't even explain why!
And the someone might have read stuff.
@@Bas-TB He read all the documents don't you know?
the glory days of 1905
Think for yourself…do the research….weigh both sides then decide.
"I'm easily scared. My dad and a random co-worker fed into my fear, so I voted the way they would have wanted me to. "
here, I saved everyone 10 minutes of their life.
😂
😂
Nonsense. It's worth concentrating on the 8:08 of non-conversation to fully appreciate the most insincere "Happy Birthday" in the history of broadcasting.
It's still amusing listening to him making his relatable lament and disdain so clear during the moments these idiots need to pause for breath before continuing their lunacy
Scary
He’s proof that age doesn’t always grants wisdom
It probably granted him a pension and house that his grand kids can only dream of.
"The hours of folly are measured by the clock, but of wisdom no clock can measure.
LOL
The saying that age grants wisdom goes back to the time when people died before they turned 50, before their brains started to wilt away.
Our current older generations first spent their lives voting against their own interests while grabbing as much as they could, not understanding that they left nothing for future generations, then got upset about the results, and as a reaction voted themselves out of the EU, giving the final death blow to the future of those future generations.
It is really frightening that ignorants like that go to vote. That applies to other countries as well.
When the vote happened my Gran asked me, her Grandaughter, how I was going to vote. She was 92 at that point and figured it probably wouldnt affect her but it would affect me and my daughter. She voted to remain because that was how I was voting. I wish more older voters had done this. Sadly my Gran passed in 2020 and I still miss her.
Aw your gran sounds great :)
❤ RIP to the wonderful woman
Your gran was one of the ones who plants trees so her children can sit in the shade that she would never see.
I'm sure she was an amazing woman.
Plenty did
Exactly! My Grandad did the same. Approaching his 90s, he asked what I thought, and what this would mean for my sons, in their 20s. He said this world no longer belonged to him, that he had no right to vote for something that they would have to bare the cost of, so he voted Remain. We lost him in 2017, and it was a hard loss. I'm sorry for yours!
I voted to leave because a friend of a friend of my aunty's second cousin told me that the EU was bad. And she knew because she once had a job in an office and she could read.
🤣
Comic genius
I heard this in Stewart Lee’s voice 😂
I think I know her 🤔
This statement legit confirms the ignorance of some British people
I didn't realise how difficult it was to try and dissect stupidity. You are a breath of fresh air, James. Thank you for being there.
and it's tre what they say, there's no cure for it!!
"So many people can't express what's on their minds. Nobody knows them and nobody ever will. Until their backs are broken, their dreams are stolen, they can't get what they want and they are gonna get angry'. ( The The - Heartland 1986) (...Let the poor drink the milk while the rich eat the honey. Let the bums count their blessings, while they count their money).
It's very easy to ridicule those who aren't eloquent in expressing their grievances. It's much harder to find out what their pain is. Mocking them will not end up well for anybody. It's always the angry person that burns the world to the ground. Your world, because it will come knocking on your door as well.
Funny that I come to the opposite realization watching these callers. All it takes to dissect the stupidity is to ask for clarity, for examples, and for definitions. In reverse order: they struggle to give definitions because they don't understand the words they are using, the can't give examples because the reality of the matter was never a true motivator for their position. For those reasons, and additionally the cognitive dissonance that is necessary to hold their beliefs, they cannot provide clarity.
It is very depressing.
He has no capacity to explain what he did to do What?
And he allows 2 ignorant people to tell him what will really badly effect his life AND HE DOESN'T COMPREHEND WHAT HE HAS DONE!
@@lux_moto But he isn't mocking them. He is trying to get them to say what they have done to themselves - and why.
So we ALL know how to reach these people.
He us just really tired, depressed and frustrated.
This man represents the arrogant detachment of so many people here in Britain. Strong opinions on something you know nothing about. When you're raised hearing "we won the war" and "the sun never sets on the British Empire" I guess you never have to respect the fact there's a world beyond your driveway
This this this.
This man needs to learn about Dunning-Kruger
this type of brain root actually have roots in America. it poisons the minds of so many people...
Do you think there's a link between Donald trump being president and brexit? It feels like Britain became usa 2.0 but unlike usa Britain didn't have the backing to hold up against the mistake they were about to make?
@@LilLingLing6789Russian propaganda and media Outlets that had to generate clicks and dus didn't cared about what they wrote and only about how controversal it was are the links. The Internet never was build to be used by ordinary people and we all lack the competence to use it propper, is the underlying link, but that's impossible to fix at this point, so we better focus on the top two.
"You've had 6 years to think about it... well, in fact, you've had 40..." Exactly. 👍🏻
As soon as he said "you've had six years to think about it" I was creasing 🤣 80s sitcom delivery
I don't think Oliver could even fully explain why he bothered to call in..
I think he meant to call 111
🤣🤣😂😂😂
A life consisting of infinite possibilities built upon lost opportunities.
I think he was just a bit lonely and needed a chat.
When I'm in a shop/bank/ticket office I'm always behind somebody like him.
Couldn't answer a simple question about what he gained from leaving.
And these people determined our future, unbelievable.
He vote for some vague idea of perceived regained independence that has nothing to do with the real life consequences of the outcome of the vote.
@@xxDrainthe man is now close to 76 years old. The consequences hardly affect him, do they? It was all a joke to him. That was the most unpleasant thing he said.
Listening to a Brexiter explain their logic is like Listening to a toddler try to explain why they should be allowed to stay up late.
Staying up late has concrete measurable benefits though (watch cool TV shows, eat icecream).and *finite* drawbacks (grumpy feelings tomorrow)
Brilliant analogy ! 😂
That's disrespectful to toddlers.
Hang on, let me tell you something, I need to tell you something!
Principle difference is that in this case the toddler gets to decide everyone's bedtime.
It's tragic. Our country has been damaged in every possible way since Brexit and the voters who put us there can't find a single coherent reason why they voted for it, but still will refuse to recognise that it was a mistake.
They voted for all of the reasons that there was a referendum in the first place. It wasn't nothing.
@Tom We were better off. Improved standard of living. A giant free market on our doorstep for our exports. Being a leading member of one of the three main economic powers on the planet, China and America being the other two. More rights. Free movement without passport checks. Is there more?
Although many have and do express a deep sense of regret on LBC pretty much every time it is discussed.... nobody truly realised for what they were voting as the ramifications simply weren't spelled out in the simple tickbox referendum. Too little too late isn't it.
Damaged in every possible way, really? I think underneath many will realise Brexit hasn't been that bad after all.
@Tom Avoiding trade barriers that have now added all sorts of extra costs and procedures to do business with the EU, thus making the UK less competitive because doing so is more expensive and takes longer than working with EU competitors?
I’m not even European and I can understand basic concepts like that.
My wife's an accountant and she spends a fair chunk of her time with clients (especially new ones) persuading them that her advice is better than "what some guy in a pub told me".
But did he read ALL of the documents (not some of them) like this caller's friend? If he didn't he's not to be trusted I'm afraid 😉
@@franklingoodwin My favourite one is "you don't pay tax in your first year." Technically true - you effectively pay double in your second - but leads to some nasty shocks. And more business for my wife. 😁
@@andrewstevenson118 It's quite nice when someone's ignorance gets you more business. I'm generally against ignorance but will always make exceptions when it benefits me. What can I say? I'm a hypocrite 😂
A bit like the high flying bankers who brought the entire nation and banking system to its knees in 2008. They were supposed to be the financial masters of the universe being paid £millions in bonuses.
@@franklingoodwin I wouldn't put it like that. You're not a hypocrite. Everyone has areas they don't know about and use other people to help them. And there are two types of ignorance - plain "I don't know" and wilful ignorance. The latter being more like a proverbial ostrich. One criteria I have developed for close friendships is whether they can say "I don't know", or "you're right". Not for my own edification but rather it shows I can have a conversation with them and learn from it and enjoy their company. As opposed to people who know it all and are dogmatic in their views. And to be honest and fair, I then have to be the same, don't I?
As an American its nice to know that there are other idiots out there that vote based on "things they heard from someone" instead of doing their own reading and education on the subject
Nice of you to comment here on what I was thinking. It's baffling isn't it? The stupidity these people say (also Trump supporters) or whatever people spew in UA-cam comments about Biden or whatever happens in Ukriane, is just astounding. In the end it comes down to plain lies, or whataboutism.
Can thank that token English boy from info wars
It's a universal human trait. Psychologically, human minds are more likely to believe something they keep reading and hearing about, sheer repetition. Which is why classes of logic and argumentation teach the bandwagon fallacy -the idea that something is valid merely because enough people believe it. Always scrutinize what you read and be wary of simplistic arguments that are frequently regurgitated.
This chap was polite, respectful and seemingly sincere. Although poorly informed and prone to sentimental statements.
”Swedish voters has entered the chat”
Here we have mindnumbingly ignorant voters , wall to wall , whining about the government they loudly & proudly voted for.
The caller will still walk away from that call thinking he's right and nothing will have changed. 🤦♂️
Which is quite ironic considering how impressionable he's proven himself to be. Some bloke just told him how to vote and he did it because "I'm convinced he's read all the documents that I can't even cite because I don't know what they are".
Listening to a man that has been educated by the Daily Mail
Just like my parents
Actually, by his mate at work who reads The Daily Mail.
I think the DM is a bit elitist, The Sun and those other printed bit of environmental waste that aren't fit to be used to catch bird excrement are more like it.
@Paul Conway and Mrs Brown’s Boys is the most watched programme. Popularity doesn’t make something not a load of horseshit
Most of the masses have been indoctrinated and NOT educated and that has allowed the Mafias who own and control the UK, EU, US, UN, NATO and most of this planet create the scam system exposed in the Democracy Illusion video on my channel that also exposes how dumb most of the people on this planet are for these Mafias to get away with everything that they are doing to bring in their agenda hence why the people who are commenting on both sides of this Brexit argument are clueless about what is really going - they think that voting makes a difference but that Democracy Illusion video totally exposes what a scam that is as well.
James O'Brien is either the worlds greatest actor, or he is genuinely so fed up with these people that he seems too tired to even raise his voice in anger anymore.
Fed up.
I've watched 3 years of people calling in to prove him wrong and failing utterly.
Indeed. He seemed just sad about how this old person was so confused and couldn't even name ANYTING specific.
It's like talking to a person with Alzheimers who and tries to tell you about his happiest day in life,
and just when he's about to start his story he forgets and greets you again - rinse and repeat.
They don't even understand much of anything yet have the same power to influence politics as "mentally sound" people have.
He is genuinely fed up with these kind of people for a long time. They are utterly ignorant but think they know it all and are arrogant about it as well
can you blame him it's the biggest and least appealing "I told you so" in our nations history
I think that he is the best journalist in the world, great media man!
I'm suicidal after listening to this man who has been on this planet over 70 years and still can't put a sentence together when asked a simple question, and his decisions will affect my life forever, aaaaargh!
I feel ya mate, I m an outsider yet I feel 2nd hand embarrassment and sympathy for you
I think most of the callers just don't want to admit they didn't want foreigners.
But the irony is they get more of them now, and from outside the EU where people tend less to share our values than those inside the EU. DUH.
The Commonwealth????
Nobody ever says they don't want foreigners
@@kieransavage100 The commonwealth had a British sensibility. now you'll get people from anyway....enjoy.
@@Anygodwilldo They say it indirectly. Stop being so naive.
I can’t comprehend being so blindly confident, to the point of ringing James as a brexiter, to argue the vote you made, however not being able to answer a single simple or in depth question about a national life changing decision.
Absolutely mind blowing.
And brexit cover,s over a lot of other things broken in this drive, Universal credit, bedroom tax, Rwanda, sanctions(now makes us untrustworthy with other peoples property) the Inter net broken with spying and tracking devices leading to censorship across the board and lest we forget the nightmare thats called UKRAINE, complete madness governing us!!
It's standard practice in the US.
Furthermore, it's not like James is coming up with shocking new zingers to outwit them... It's just the same question that he asked the last dozen times. How do they not plan ahead with an answer to the opening question of "What specific thing did you hope to gain or avoid losing?"
How come these callers just assume they know enough about this and don't do a tiny bit of research and... wait, I think I've spotted the problem.
Have you ever seen Donald Trump speak, he was a freaking president and was the most confident person ever without having any clue what he was talking about.
Every time I hear someone like this it makes me realise how painful and needless Brexit was. It makes me annoyed that a 75 year old has taken my freedom of movement.
I had a conversation with someone of a similar age on why they voted Brexit, and they said because the EU does things like banning bendy bananas (which is an untruth)🤦 This is what we were dealing with
That 75 year old helped build the nation you now live in. It was my uncle who told me how at Dunkirk he and his Scottish Highlanders stood their ground to fight an entire elite SS division while our French "brothers," led by DeGaule, deserted their posts and ran for the boats. Such was the bravery of the Scots, who ran out of ammunition and fought hand to hand combat, that the SS commander refused to have them executed. Instead they were shipped off to Germany to be POWs.
@@johnhickton7944 Scotland didn't vote for Brexit.
@@johnhickton7944 What has that got to do with him voting to leave the EU and taking away my freedom of movement?
Anyway that 75 year did not fight in Ww2 because he wasn’t even born!
@John Hickton - clearly you can’t do maths very well
'What did you win by withdrawing from the common market?'
'The common market.'
But that's not my wallet.
I have never ever heard a Brexiteer answering this question, ever.
It's very, very, VERY simple: People they don't like told them not to do something, so they did it.
"I'm convinced he read all the documents" never laughed harder in my life 😂
by documents im sure he mean a propaganda daily newspaper
@@krusher74 Oh of course only from the most official sources 🤭
I don't know much about this topic, but I'm sure European agreements and laws are thousands of pages long... What documents is he even referring too?
But he doesn't know what the documents are. Sigh.
He forget to say "on Facebook"
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."
our democracy was a representative democracy, which failed when the opinion of the ignorant equaled the opinion of the knowledgeable.
@@tony_w839 "n the opinion of the ignorant equaled the opinion of the knowledgeable."
It is inevitable that 50% of the population will be of below average intelligence.
@@tony_w839 The system is being gamed by the FPTP system. It's been set up like this to keep the plebs down.
@@tonyb9735 so we _really_ need to raise the average!
True. Give thick heads the vote so politicians can manipulate them and get into power so they can make a lot of money and go off and join "I'm a celebrity".
I am from the USA so it isn't really my place to have a strong view either way on Brexit, but I just wanted to comment at what a perfect demonstration this is of how whipped up people's political feelings can get when they have no real substance or knowledge on the topic. The same issue is happening but possible even worse right now in the US, with people sometimes so heated that they could fight over issues that they can't even explain.
And the States have guns.
A 75 year old man voted for a change in his country he will not be around to deal with.
actually he would have been about 68 when the brexit vote came about. he was an adult citizen, why shouldn't he vote? if only people that will be around for the consequences should vote, are you advocating sending toddlers to the polls?
I've had several conversations just like this with leave voters. It seems they voted to leave because they were unhappy, and leaving was going to somehow cure their unhappiness. It was a nostalgic desire to return to a barely remembered past that, in reality, never existed. And they still cling to that desire.
Nailed it.
Read my comments above for the truth about why we had to leave. Even then I hadn't mentioned the £billions of our money lost in the EU due to corruption and crime.
Spot on
Direct Hit!
Is that you Adam Curtis? Really nicely put
I am an Australian and there were a lot of us trying to work out why and how the Brexiters won. All these years later I still can't understand why it was considered at all.
Because many didn't do their homework and thought we would returm to some non-existent Albion and believed a load of bull from Bojo, Farage and the Vote Leave lies.
Big part of the vote was xenophobia, big part was lies that sounded great and a lack of critical thinking skills, and another big part was dissolution with their current situation in life and just wanting any change - a breaking of the status quo.
That's probably made up a fair chunk of the voters
TORY party don't admit to the public that the real reason they chose Brexit is to stop implementing EU tax avoidance regulations 2020
Brexiteers won through targeted data analytics with trolling, lies and playing on general frustration and delusions of past national grandeur, sponsored by Putin.
Because the 'leave' campaign was built upon a load of lies and run by crooks who, the day after winning, backtracked on all of their 'promises'.
From what I gathered when the Brexit vote happened, it seemed it was the anti-immigration idea that was the main factor.
Yeah, I think that's what he didn't want to say on air.
When he said political stuff, I assumed he meant immigration but didn’t want to outright say it. Well congrats, many have left but now farms don’t have anyone to work.
His answer really is he wanted rid of foreigners, but hadn't the guts to say .
This.
I'll never understand why these people even consider phoning in 🤦♀️ ridiculously embarrassing.
Well they don't think at all. So worrying they haven't any point to make is the least of their concerns.
It was Sir Denis Thatcher who used to say it is better to keep your mouth shut and look a fool than to open it and remove all possible doubt.
@@peterturner8766 and full.of alcohol did anyone blame him.married to that, only happened twice ,? Mark and a sister, I'd rather die scirossis of the liver than do it a third time
The thing is, I don't think Oliver was embarrassed at all, despite absolutely being cause for embarrassment. And therein lies the problem.
They live in an echo chamber and aren't exposed to opposing views
It blows my mind how people keep calling into this show completely unprepared to answer the same type of question he asks every time.
It blows my mind that these types of people are the same people that are allowed to dictate everyone else's daily life and future.
they are unable to reply to it, as there is simply not a single benefit from it... but I agree with you on people being full on themselves with no facts/data whatsoever, but thinking from their high horse they made and most astonishingly, would do it again, despite all evidence against it...
James as a German I am so thankful for you going hard after this coward. My sister lived in London about the time the brexit votes where done. And she told me exactly the same. Many people with no idea what the vote would be vetoed for leave. And everyone who was thinking about voted for stay. And she was so angry that a lot of so called smart people where led by the conservatives to vote leave. Those politicians where the grave diggers for Britain. And now I just hope Scotland will become independent once and join the EU!
Little England mentality. I also wilkommen the Scots and a reunited Ireland!
Saor Alba
You're back on your TARDIS! That was brilliant!
''He read ALL the documents.'' Not even Brasseye or Thick of It is this level of satire.
Hail Brian, reader of all the documents!
It's Chris Morris on the phone.
He read the Daily Mail
For some reason, I read that in Rudi Gulliani’s voice
Let alone the fact that he voted to leave the single market because he had only wanted the single market originally, and couldn’t name all the things he’d thrown in the bin along with the single market.
"We're jumping through decades like Dr. Who"
"You've had 6yrs to think about it"
This guy is hilarious😂😂
6 years, more like 75 years of nonsense
Love the tardis comment he threw in there.
@@theq86 Of course you'll love that comment, you're an idiot ,so why wouldn't you?
I liked "Not everything, just one thing" right before the 6 years comment.
Poor old boy. He is 75 so born in the late 40s. Teenager and young man in the 60s and 70s so he saw how awful it was as “the sick man of Europe”. He saw it turning in the 80s and 90s then boom in the 00s. Basically a linear graph of improving growth, gdp, disposable income, living standards, while in the EU. But he didn’t like the hollowing out of manufacturing. The same phenomenon that happened to every G7 country. The same in the US, Canada, Japan, France, Germany, etc. so he voted to leave and now the UK will disaggregate and England will once again be “the sick man of Europe”. Quite a round trip.
Spot on!
"You've had 6 years to think about it"
Eviscerating
He's had another 12 months since then and he still hasn't got a scooby doo.
"You've had 6 years to think about it. In fact you've had 40." The guy clearly hadn't.
IT's not because you have time to think, that you are able to do so ...
I don't think thinking was his forte.
James's sigh at the beginning sums up how I've felt for the last 6 years
Gordon is a.....
You know....😜
Oh yes..... I absolutely share the despair feeling.
@@tackleberryc6472 well done, mate. You summed up your intelligence level in a concise manner unparalleled in modern society. We all know without a doubt your level of intelligence and we are all found wanting. Cheers.
@@joeshmoe8134
Triggered you though didn't it ....
The truth hurts...
Hence your reply....
Thank you....👍
@@tackleberryc6472 You haven't made any truthful statements, vague gesturing doesn't count as a truthful statement.
So funny and so tragic at the same time. I can understand somebody not having a clue about an issue, but this guy actually phoned a radio chat show, without having a single coherent thought in his head.
“What were you voting *for?“*
“Well, I was voting *against* the things. And the bits.”
It's sad because millions of people will be just like this - they simply don't have a clear clue why we went down the path we did. Clear manipulation. Brexit needs to be a taught example of what happens when you blindly follow without thinking, questioning or trying to balance your view point. The true importance of critical thinking and seeing the bigger picture
If thinking about the fact this nation didn't vote to jump into a political union looking to be another United States and the fact this nation was made weaker due to lack of self dependence and incompetence of government being justified by "following orders" from Brussels, makes me "Blindly following without thinking" then call me blind. The EU is a failed bloc trying to imitate what it is never going to be.
And for the record I voted for my OWN reasons to leave and I'd do it again - not blindly, not thoughtlessly and certainly not cowardly like the bleeding heart remainers who didn't get their way and are STILL sulking.
What a truly thick person you are. Read above my comments justifying our BREXIT. It is you who has "blindly" been led astray. Basically the EU was set up to benefit all cuurent EU members with the UK being seen as the constant net contributor.
I feel James' pain. I have to deal w/ the same thing when talking to rightwingers. Facts and objective truth doesn't matter.
@@monotech20.14 try telling the truth to leftwingers and they just brand you any and all isms and phobes they can come up with.
@@The_Phoenix_Saga So I guess you never heard of "States rights" in the US? Are you the person who called in and just made up a new excuse?
Hilarious interview showing that a Brexit voter really had no idea at all why he voted for Brexit. There are so many like him. Brilliant deadpan comedy from James O'Brien.
@Tom what was it then?
@Tom what point did he make, Tom? Just one of you don’t mind. Don’t worry. I’ll wait…..
Depressing more like
No, see, he knew exactly what he voted for. You could TELL he knew. It´s just that he also knew he couldn´t say it out loud on a talk show.
@Tom - “that political stuff” was as near as he got 🙄
If your going to phone in make sure you have a point . What a fool .
Unreal. We scored our greatest economic own goal because of people like this.
The man openly admitted he got all of his opinions from his dad and some guy a work who he’s sure has read “all the documents”. The man’s a fool and doesn’t have anything, he just listens to what people told him but never gave it any thought. That’s it. That’s all he’s got going for him.
Love it when James selects the correct caller to give him the opinions that fit his show😅 he plays to his galley
@@PoldarkGodzilla ok then, why don’t you name a single EU law that we have gotten rid of since 2016 that has made Britain better.
Same for both sides of arguement. Globalists can't seem to accept that. It was a democratic vote so accept it and move on. The plum presenting this show cant get over it. Imagine how much happier he would be if he stopped singing the global anthem. People rejected globalism, yet people like him take it personally.
@@sambra1979 “it was a democratic vote so move on” is not an argument when everything has gotten worse and not one promise by the leave campaign has been fulfilled. Almost everything that the remain campaign said (dubbed project fear by the leave campaign) has come true. I can complain about it all I like until someone convinces me of ANYTHING that has improved since we left the EU. Problem is that brexiteers refuse to accept that it was the wrong thing to do and because of that we cannot fix any of the problems that it’s caused. “Move on” is a joke.
That's all any of the leave voters had, except a load of promises of unicorns and rainbows.
Oliver is a prime example why Critical Thinking should be part of the school curriculum and should be taught from first grade until graduation. Trump said "I love the uneducated" and I guess the Tories do too!
Unfortunately Oliver is part of a generation that often believes what it wants. I often have conversations with my dad that end up with me saying ‘don’t forgot I have google in my pocket so be careful which facts you present’. More often than not it’s something his mates have said down the pub
jesus no...don't teach critical thinking to the masses ... how would we manipulate them???....they're much better off watching the final Strictly or wondering who will be on the next ''m a celebrity...'and not ask too many questions 🙄
Its frightening that the man is 75 and still as dumb as a rock!
@@dcpayne5264 google doesn’t always present facts just out of interest.
@@Eleventhearlofmars Google doesn't present anything except search results. It's up to the user to decide which results they consider trustworthy.
“I like to tell you why I voted for Brexit.”
9 minutes later: still waiting.
😅😅😅
James is amazing 👏🏿 we need radio shows like this in America
The majority report 💪💯
The man spent 40 years just going along with what his friends and relatives said to do.
the typical "trust me bro"
What becomes ever clearer is that many people vote on their feelings rather than facts.
Isn't that always the case?
thats why a referendum was undemocratic, it gave responsibility to UK's future to millions who didnt understand the implications.
Which is why voting should only be for educated people
There are people who do internet searches and tells us they know more than doctors or economists or Scientists. Fun world we live in now.
WHEN THE e,u,r.o WAS INTRODUCED the E.U had 30% of world trade it is now 15%. Who would want to join with that track record.
It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.
This is what happens when important decisions are given to morons. Brexit is the worst thing that's happened to us.
I was shocked when a lot of my friends said they voted to leave. They mostly said thing like "this will stop *_them_* coming here and taking our jobs".
Well, how is that working out? It get’s easier by to day to go back to Britain to work, because they lack the people to fill all the jobs or they lack the British people who want to do those jobs for that miserable salary.
It will always be so, our elected MPs rarely have much life experience 😁
As for Brexit it is the same as being in the EU - some win big, most are indifferent, some lose big. My HGV driver neighbour has a new extension built and a brand new Porsche on his drive - his wages doubled solely because of Brexit.
Amusingly, he voted remain but now won't hear a word about going back in.
This show makes me happy. Living in America I am surrounded by complete idiots. I thought it was something in the water.
I feel for you as you feel for me ❤️
It is something in the water:- flesh eating amoebae
nah mate, don't worry. It's more exposed in the USA due to it covering media, but it's the same everywhere.
LOL. You laugh because if you cry, you won't stop.
Totally incoherent rambling. Why aren't these people vetted out of voting?
This is like handling a toddler a loaded gun and putting them in a crowded room of intelligent, innocent people.
I feel like the US has poisoned the water everywhere else.
There is something in the water, we just got used to it.
Tragic that people of his age have had such an impact on young people.
Young people, its their children in their 40's and 50's as well
Its not just young people - I'm an oldie pensioner Remainer, and everything, as I expected,is much worse for me too...
That's ageist.
He may be thick, but there are plenty of people older than him who aren't.
Of the people I know who voted leave, it was a small majority of under 40s. One did it as a joke.
SOME people of his age... Not all, by any means.
I am of his age, nearly, I voted to remain, as did everyone in my family. But we can read ,write and understand how the world works.
This was difficult to listen to. People want to be a part of political discord but come unprepared for the discussion.
I was once told ''Arrogance only gets you so far''.
This statement couldn't be more accurate with Brexit.
This guy is an example of what happens when you think in emotional terms rather than using reason. He couldn’t even organize his thoughts.
It's got nothing to do with emotion. It's pure ignorance. One can be emotional and rational at the same time. Emotional doesn't mean disorganised or unintelligent.
If anything, we need MORE emotion, because so far all we've had is empathy-free, un-feeling Tory lies and cruelty.
@@nebularain3338 I do not agree, thinking emotionally leads to a lack of reason. That is why groups resort to fear tactics. It shuts down the rational side of the brain.
"The most powerful argument against Democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter" Winston Churchill.
He is on live radio so already a little nervous and then met by possibly the most interrupting presenter in history.
@@eddieingalls534 if you phone into this show, you bring your A-game, or...
I'm Dutch so I watched this happen from a distance. People got conned in the UK by Farrage and his mob. It was so clear for all of us in Europe, but it seemed as if the British were deaf and blind. So Sorry that this happened to your country. It's a setback that will last for a long time.
The EU is bureaucratic failure, the people who voted against wanted more control over their own country but they found out that mass immigration and the destruction of the middlclass goes on with or without the EU. The problem with a lot of people in the west is that they live in a bubble and have no idea that a major conflict is just around the corner by bringing in all those different groups. BTW I'm also Dutch.
The Scots weren't deaf and blind. Far from it.
@@geraldleuven169 What pompous generalisation .
It was clear to us in Britain as well, if you paid attention. Sadly though, lies work too well on too many...
@@Jake-jr2zh You live in England ?
I cant never fully watched the conversations with Brexiteers on this channel as I feel too embarrassed for them
I really admire you, James O'Brian, for keeping cool and polite for such long minutes, waiting for a simple answer to a simple question.
The most annoying thing is that he's so blissfully unaware of the consequences of his actions. I can't now retire to France without jumping through miles and miles of red tape. My children can't study abroad so easily as I could. Our economic future is unsure. Thanks for interfering in my life with no idea of what you actually wanted.
Try and get yourself an Irish passport. Everyone seems to have that lineage.
@@Jumpmaster337 unfortunately not. I have French ancestry but 100s of years ago.
@@jimwocha4949 may be worth a shot under Le droit du sang (jus sanguinis). The French are pretty open!
@@Jumpmaster337 worth a go. I'll investigate. My father traced our lineage back to Alsace in the c18th
You can go to France on a rubber dingy. There's loads of people arriving from France everyday to Britain on rubber dingy's to be apart of this mess we got ourselves into due to Brexit.
Seeing the contrast in how James handles this call now, vs. six years ago, tells you so much. From passionately trying to convince people then, to a weary sigh now.
i think he knows if you’re still a brexiter now you’re too far gone
@@ryanhindley174 Just like the Confederate Republicans here in the States - they get suckered into serving the interests of the rich fascists and believe all their lies because they're too lazy to actually investigate any facts -- they're led by their bigotry
Looks like he was using the Socratic method.
No matter how much you love James and want to believe every word he says, you cannot change this fact;
James O'brien, on his last show before the brexit vote, 'was still telling listeners that HE REALLY DIDNT KNOW WHICH WAY TO VOTE" yet has spent all these years pretending he was always a remainer.
That to me is hypocrisy and why I can't trust what he says.
Imagine how drained James would be in USA.
As an American, this makes me feel less alone. The sigh of exhaustion by O’Brien sums it up.
I would like to add my sympathy. I also mourn for the caller.
He gave the game away when he said he wanted to fire on foreign fishing vessels in British waters.
"I knew a guy" Jeezus how dumb can people really be?
My m8 Bob down the Pub said it was the way to go. We got our Pints back didnt we 😂
“Yhhh hilarious” killed me 😂
Love this. It just goes to show that people like this have no real goal in mind. They are just told something is bad without understanding the issue whatsoever so when you ask them pointed questions, they answer questions you didn't ask because they don't actually know the answer.
Critical thinking is a thing of the past, now we have Sat Nav and AI etc. most people are walking around like the living dead on auto pilot
Man really rang up a radio show to talk politics with an argument of “my mate told me this thing and I believed him”
If he’s 75 tomorrow he’s old enough to know better! I’m 82 and still cannot get my head round the fact that my generation voted to leave. They have such short memories.
My Mum was 85 when the vote came and she voted remain.
I am 77, voted remain in 1975 and saw no reason to vote any differently in 2016 if anything more in favour of it than ever before. Now just hope I live long enough to vote rejoin.
Contempt for the conmen, compassion for the conned
A fine and correct comment.
Being the youngster here (in my late 60s), I (and both my parents) voted to stay in, in 1975. When it came to 2016, I did quite a bit of research about the EU, because many of the people that I worked with, who were around my age, said that they were going to vote leave. I needed to know why.
However, it seemed that the main reason that they were voting leave was because they read the Mail or the Express or they were on Facebook, or multiples of those three things. I don’t read those newspapers (or their websites), and am not on Facebook. I read extensively from all of the UK/EU agreements, acts of parliament and EU laws mentioned by the ‘Leave’ promoting politicians and news broadcasters, and found that, in the most part, those people were lying. So I voted as I had intended to vote, for ‘Remain’, still trying to convince the people who I worked with to do the same.
What I felt on the day that the result was announced was utter despair - not because I lost, but because the country had lost, and I couldn’t see a way for the UK to return to the EU during the remainder of my lifetime. And with all of the evil machinations of this current despicable Tory party, I can only see our chances diminishing with every passing month…
American here. Really enjoying watching you tear this idiot apart. Real journalism here!
This is every boomer over 70 who voted this way. In a nutshell.
Proud to have voted to leave, absolutely no idea why.
I feel as if I lost brain cells trying to understand the intelligence in this man's head.
Don't stress there's nothing in there
Your not the only one I thought my brain cells where skipping as if I had a bad signal and couldn't understand f.all!
Rude
And he is 75 years old.. couldn't imagine what his friends and families had to bear with him waiting for him to explain his thoughts..
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His accent should have warned you he's thick.
Man said “he read the documents” What documents? “I don’t know” 😂😂😂😂
Maybe it was all Trump's stolen documents? :)
The most painful thing I've seen and heard in years.
He was running out of ideas so he tried to play the "I'm old" card at the end.
It's a generation that read "Referendum on membership of the EU" as "Who wants to slap Johnny Foreigner" - except they slapped themselves and still don't get it
I saw a quote recently along the lines of: "in 2016 the UK government asked the thick half of the country what they should do next". I think it hit the mark.
Tell us why you voted to remain?
@@johnhickton7944 More reasons that I can think of from the top of my head; trade deals with far flung countries are no substitute for a vastly expanded domestic market, which the CU/SM gave us, easy access to a young workforce of largely similar culture to keep the engine of our economy going in light of an ageing population, sharing the costs of all sorts of administrative functions which we now have to duplicate at great cost, access to technology projects (scientists are now leaving in droves because staying would mean loss of EU funding), access to live and work in 27 other countries, simple solution to the NI border issue, the fact that almost all laws passed at EU level were with our support and we will duplicate most of them at state level anyway - and because we had no real plan for leaving, even if we wanted to leave. We just got swept along in a bluff that was meant to result in a remain vote just to stop the Tories from potentially losing a few seats to UKIP and to end the Tory divisions on the issue.
@@johnhickton7944 On top of all the benefits we had while we were in the EU, I saw the kind of (morally) corrupt individuals who were lining up to promote the Leave campaign, and that convinced me to vote against them. Why did anyone believe the likes of Nigel Farage or Boris Johnson - because they looked like someone who you'd find down the pub?
"we're sick of experts, so we're going to listen to people without expertise." - the uk government, probably.
@@johnhickton7944 I voted against Brexit to avoid the state the country is in now.
You’ve got to give credit to the rich how they’ve always figure out a way to get the poor people to vote against their self interest because at the end of the day, you can always turn around and say well I voted for that.
This caller is everyone that voted to leave.
I won, I won!
What did you win?
I dint know , but I won.
Readers digest must love people like him.
This is such a lazy attitude 😕
The classic O'Brien technique of asking for "one thing", works every time
"Oh, so many things!"
They usually say to take back control because they parrot back what the newspapers say.
@@cassidydankochik3294 "everything"
Everyone should strive for this level of composure when faced with lunacy.
Wow. That was painful.
the worst part of it is in ten years Oliver will probably be dead, yet the lives of my children will no doubt be blighted by this for decades
Oliver sounds like a nice man who has been either deliberately or unwittingly misled by fools and scoundrels his whole life. I feel sorry for him, but I'm not yet ready to forgive him his folly.
A nice man? Did he ask his grandchildren how they would like him to vote on a country he will soon no longer be a part of but they would have to live in? Did he even care what he was leaving them? Did he care that in our democracy he was meant to make an informed vote which he clearly did not? I think you meant pathetic man because I heard nothing nice from his lips.
Educate yourself. Then u dont believe nitwits as Farage.
Said better than I could...thank you.
he does? .. he sounds like a senile, ignorant old man to me .. who chose feelings over facts and lacks the ability to actually formulate what he wants. He knows what he hates .. but only vaguely (cannot even recall a specific thing)
misled and lied to? .. no, he wanted to be misled and lied to ..
@@Alfadrottning86 Harsh reprimand indeed.
This man voted to leave the European Union because he thought that in global terms, Britain was a big powerful nation that could run her own affairs as she wished and dictate the pace to all others. What he and others are now realising is that the fact that Britain in reality is a small to medium sized nation, located upon an island that is situated off the north-western reaches of the European continental mainland.
As such Britain, just does not have the size nor the strength to go out alone in this modern political and social society in which we all live, on this planet today in 2023.
The past is gone. It’s history. Time to move on. The future has yet to be written and it’s up to Britain to write her own future in whatever way she can with or without whom ever she wishes to work with, or not. Up to now, Britain has made a right dogs dinner of writing her own future. Trying to go it alone is a disaster. Brexit is a complete and utter disaster.
Any intelligent analysis of the situation would suggest that the best way to move forward is to lodge an application with the European Union to re-join that partnership. Nothing else at this point in time makes any sense at all.
Yes Ask to rejoin the EU by all means - But the EU may well dictate unfavourable terms?
@@rropo1 : So be it. Get back in first and then work on terms and internal positioning…
@@rropo1
Actions, it turns out, have consequences. Some of those consequences are ones you might not like, but still need to endure. Conservatives love to tighten their belt but when it comes to taking one on the chin they all have glass jaws.
@@rropo1
The EU doesn't dictate, countries like Russia, China, North Korea, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, etc. dictate....
Gosh
"We're jumping through the decades like Doctor Who."
They can never answer. Because it was never about policy. It was about their feelings, their identity. Xenophobia.
I do not think all Leave voters were xenophobes - but I think you would be hard pressed to find a xenophobe who voted to remain.
@@peterturner8766 very true. Plus I can imagine with other comments I think people that voted to leave don't wish to discuss why encase they get branded in a negative light. Couldn't vote anyway. Was abroad.
and not a little pure british arrogance
Someone finally said it!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
It seems the caller was just regurgitating what he heard Brexit leaders say. He had no thought of his own in that conversation
He was just posing as brits are well-known to do : look at how funny and beautiful I am at cracking jokes. Besides not one ounce of political awareness. And why would he, since Cameron himself as a seasoned politician was not to bright making the desastrous move of a referendum...?
That “urghh!”😩sound he made says it all.
I got from that that basically the whole time we’ve been in the EU this chap was fed minor anti EU stories by the newspapers that made him feel bad about being in the EU but none of them memorable enough for him to cite as a real reason to leave… very sad :(
Spot on. Then the difficulty of arguing against someone whose strong opinion is based on a vague feeling. Heck, even James's patient socratic method results in vitriol half the time.
And you were fed pro eu stories. I live in sweden, this level of, well I'm not even sure what to call it, is mind blowing. You really are all as polarised as this man, who clearly is everything O'Brien wants on his show to get you all excited.
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."
Winston Churchill
(Couldn't resist throwing that one in there)
Never a truer word spoken. I feel like politics should be centred around electing a group of people to find and appoint experts to make decisions and policy instead of centred around getting elected/re-elected. It seems to me that there has been a shift in the last 40 years in politics from people who want to make a difference and have strong opinions and beliefs on how to do that, towards people who just want to be involved and are prepared to say whatever they think the majority of the electorate wants to hear. I think its going to be very hard for the conservatives to win the next election and I'd not be surprised ifI they try to make the country into such a state that its nigh on impossible for Labour to fix without upsetting the majority of the country. I hope I'm wrong.
"Oh go on, never mind". Priceless!
As a third party this is hilarious to watch. But I also really feel James' resignation. He gets no satisfaction out of this. These people severely hamstrung their own country and by extension themselves. And the worst is they don't even realise it.
They do know they voted the wrong way, but refuse to accept they were wrong and they were conned.
James lives for bullying people who phone in.
@@routeman680 he sounded very polite to me and not bullying at all. He was asking a simple question and did not get an answer.
@@svenvandevelde1 This time, yes, but usually he likes to bully and humiliate people who disagree with him so I think he scares people into not voicing their true opinions, hence this phone call.
I agree intensely with your comment, and just want to add the most disappointing part. In clamouring for a past that never really existed, they’ve robbed endless future generations of making a past for themselves that they can be proud of.
This was horrific to listen to
The man has no idea why he voted leave,he just did regardless obviously of the devastating consequences . Happy Birthday indeed!!!
The patience of this man is unmatched
I tried to find out exactly the same thing, and all I got was "blue pisspots"