A good budget CPU for Windows XP "overkill" machine is an i3 2120 with hyperthreading disabled, 2 cores at 3.3Ghz with nice performance, most games only use 2 cores anyway as you can see in MSI Afterburner overlay. Pair it with a GTX 560 (or similar) and you can run all XP era games at maximum resolution/details and still use Windows 10 for general tasks. Great video 👌
Thank you! The i3 2120 was inside one of my past computers, and I also had an MSI GTX 560 Ti Twin Frozr II, great video card indeed. I'm planning to upgrade the system to a GTX 960 and maybe a faster i5 Ivy Bridge (3470 or 3570).
@@MidnightGeek99 or maybe a 4th gen CPU, i3 4170 is a good one, low power, nice IPC, can still use DDR3 from previous generations and will push the GTX 960 nicely. Waiting to see that new build.
I was looking through the entire FEAR video and it seems that Soft Shadows are disabled...Soft Shadows don't look way better and as you've said, the performance was lowered considerable. This is the only option from all games that isn't set to maximum.
Valve was good with us, you can copy the HL2 folder installed with Steam from your modern PC, right into Windows XP, it has no DRM, it does not require Steam to run. There are other games that can be just copied to XP: Doom 3, Dungeon Siege 2...here is the big list: www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/The_big_list_of_DRM-free_games_on_Steam
For Doom 3 & Quake 4 instead of vsync I'd recommend setting your own fps cap via something like an old version of MSI Afterburner with Rivatuner Server Statistics installed alongside it & making a profile for the exe of the game setting it between 65 - 80 fps. Also might be able too push that monitor you are using too 74 - 85 hz if you mess about a bit with custom resolutions & adjust scaling options if needed.
The problem with Doom 3 over 60 FPS is that the game speeds up, do you think that if I'll be using your solution, the game will run at 100% speed, even over 60 FPS? The next video will be about upgrading this system, you're going to see there what I've done with the display and with resolutions :)
@@MidnightGeek99 Huh maybe just a 60 fps cap in the game engine was set with some patch at some point maybe ? Don't remember having game speed issues without vsync here at least on my hd 5770 which is easily overkill for doom 3.
Thank you! Also, welcome back, that CPU of yours is absolute gorgeous, I'll be upgrading to a 5900X soon, I hope :) ua-cam.com/video/Ox46mJ5DFRE/v-deo.html
Very nice system. I think I ran an even more overpowered windows XP system, with an intel i7 980x, X58 motherboard, triple channel 3x1GB ram (it's funny how disproportionate the ram is), a Sapphire 7970 Ghz edition (3GB again - the initial video card was a nvidia 295GTX that I ran for the first 2 years of the system) and a raid 0 of 3 velociraptors (no failure in almost 8 years until I couldn't stand the noise and heat anymore).
Well, you had some choice components there, and if I'm not mistaken, the 7970 was the strongest single-GPU card from ATI that had official support for Windows XP. I think that no failure in 8 years for Raid 0 with Velociraptors is a world record, you should apply to Guinness World Records :) Have you encountered any issues / incompatibilities / oddities with Win XP games?
@@MidnightGeek99 "oddities with Win XP games" - Yes indeed. I even had an hierarchy of graphics cards that can play NFS Porsche. The last Radeon is the 5000 series. And I can vouch for the 200 Series from Nvidia. (I think it goes all the way to 400 series) NFS Porsche is a little odd as it runs fine on Windows 10 with an old enough graphics card. Red Alert 2 also had issues. Steam's Return to Castle Wolfenstein had really low framerates, it was embarrassing. Other games ran fine (GTA, NFS, Farcry, Command & conquer) nothing in particular that a new driver didn't fix. Is it that common for failures with the Raid 0? I had only 2 Velo my first two years. Then sometimes in 2012 or 2013 I upgraded the system: added a third velociraptor, replaced the 295GTX with the 7970 and added another 3X 4GB ram making it a grand total of 15Gb of ram, everybody was correcting me saying I had 16Gb :)). Also made the system dual boot XP and windows 7. In 2018 swapped the 7970 for a 1080Ti and finally put windows XP to rest on this machine. That's how I got into the retro business, I had to play Porsche and a decent framerate Wolfenstein.
@@TechLab47 NFS Porsche is a very "sad" game, it needs the perfect environment to run, he has very few friends...for example, CPUs over 2.2 / 2.3 GHz are not its friends. Actually, AMD has drivers for XP up to the HD 7000 series, and Nvidia up to GTX 970. Raid 0 simply means that if any on the drives fail, the entire Raid will fail, and considering that you had 3 HDDs, for a long period of time, that spinned like crazy at 10000 RPMs, you got lucky :) I got into the retro stuff because the mouse cursor does not work in Dungeon Siege 2, on Windows 10 :))
@@MidnightGeek99 Well, I have to say that you have even less of a reason to get into retro :)).(It doesn't work in compatibility mode?) I have to say that I never noticed the 2.2/2.3 Ghz barrier for Porsche and I did finish it several times on my i7. As long as you have one of the video cards below 480GTX or HD5870 it doesn't matter the operating system at least that's my conclusion. I'm currently running it on the 1080Ti (and a Ryzen9 that often boosts over 5Ghz) with the 4k patch ...that's actually switching it to the glide driver. I plan on making a clip about the range of hardware that game can be run on. About the raid 0 it's pretty sure I wasn't that lucky.(I usually am not, when something can break...it usually breaks for me) I put my faith in that raid more than I put it on a new SSD and it never failed me. Those velociraptors are something else. By the time I had given up on the raid0 I had 5 similar harddrives and a couple of weeks ago I got another one. I plan on making a video and adding 1 harddrive at a time and rebuilding the raid0 and see the performance increase.
@@TechLab47 I've spent 2 hours trying to fix the issue, and I fixed it by running the game in Windowed mode, borderless etc., but I did not like that. I had a lot of problems trying to run Porsche 2000, I'm glad that someone succeeded :))
2:47 _Standard insertion for a nonstandard motherboard. Go ahead, Geek. Slot the board into the chassis._ As for Half-Life 2 vs Doom 3 debate, I'd go with HL2 since like you said, it offers more environments, there is a sense of time passing with levels having different day / night skyboxes, there's more color etc. Doom 3 on the other hand is just the same looking corridor over and over, throwing the same handful of enemies and tricks. I think Quake 4 / Prey 2006 did a better job with the engine :)
I had to insert the motherboard somehow :)) I totally agree with you on HL2 vs D3, objectively speaking HL2 has more things going for it, that's why my take on Doom 3 is purely subjective, and on top of it, it also has a huge dose of nostalgia, as Doom 3 gave me some fond memories in 2004 / 2005.
I always check the current on the GPU+CPU connectors under load with an amp clamp, just out of curiosity. I've personally never seen a card that pulled more than 10A per 6 pin. So I'd say 20A for the card and 10A for that CPU and you're still staying well below the PSU max.
The paste was changed last year by its former owner, so I assumed I don't need to change it again. Also, looking at some reviews with the BFG edition, the temps are very high, towards 90 in some reviews. www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-geforce-roundup,2297-18.html
@@MidnightGeek99 I have this GTX275 and temperatures are not that bad storage.googleapis.com/pctuning-cz/media/images/oaa9oaaz9odru0660ce43980dd25596256584.jpg
Felicitari pt sistem, un pic (foarte) overpowered pt XP era dar better safe than sorry :P Eu m-am oprit la Core 2 Duo X6800, 3 gigi ram 1066 Dominator ca sa intre in hora tic cu tac cu fsb-ul procului si o 8800GTS 512, de care am avut intotdeauna un "crush" inexplicabil.
Nici sistemul tau nu e foarte "period correct" :)) Pentru majoritatea jocurilor este overpowered, dar asa cum ai vazut, unele jocuri ruleaza sub 60 FPS la 1600x1200 max settings, 16xAA. GF 8800 GTS era o bestie de placa, poate de aceea te-ai indragostit de ea :)
@@MidnightGeek99 Adevarat ca si al meu joaca hora in majoritatea jocurilor din era late Xp, desi niciodata nu mi s-a parut ca oblivion e fluid in exterior cu shadows maxed out. Dar aici intervine si gradul de optimizare al titlului respectiv presupun. Oficial, orice joc incepand cu 2007 e trecut de era xp, dar 8800 gts e fix din 2007, de aceea am considerat-o high end-ul perfect pt sistem. Initial am vrut sa ma opresc la 8800 Ultra (sau GTX), dar prefer sa le tin pt colectie, nu am curajul sa le rulez prea des :D si-n plus GTS-ul e la mustata cu ele, deci...
@@andreisrl In primul rand, daca ai un 8800 Ultra functional...pastreaza-l bine :) In al doilea rand, treaba cu "period-correct", asta e prea nou, aia e prea veche etc. nu conteaza, tot ce conteaza e sa have fun...sa faci ce iti place tie.
@@MidnightGeek99 Ca bine zici, cand eram mic un celeron 500 cu 64 ram si riva tnt vanta 8mb erau lumea mea, ma jucam deus ex cu ochii in pioneze la 15 fps si nu m-am dat batut pana nu l-am terminat :))
That thumbnail seriously has to go. Second request. Do I have to make a video? I run a Silverstone TJ10 case with enough front I/O eye candy to challenge a Christmas tree. I7-2700k OC to 4.7 and a Nvidea Titan X. The Samsung Evo SSD is a must for anything even flirting with "ultimate" status. It quad boots XP 32, Xp 64, Vista, and Windows 10 and in Win10 hangs with my Rizen 2600X. Listen, kid, I know people do what they can with a budget and everyone wants to be a "UA-camr" with click bait thumbnails to help drive synthetically driven revenue, but that doesn't mean you have to be the poster child for "overzealous."
Actually it's more like a decent Windows 7 PC :) This PC will be a quad-boot eventually, Windows XP, Vista, 7 and Ubuntu, that's why I needed to be powerful enough for Windows 7, and still compatible with Windows XP.
I don't have one right now, but I'm "hunting" for one, there are a few games that support EAX 4.0 (Quake 4 for example), and I want to enjoy the game to the fullest :)
@@GTFour I'm planning to upgrade some components for this PC, I'm going to change the audio card to an Audigy 4, I really don't know how good it is, but it has EAX 4.0, for games such as Doom 3 and Quake 4.
@@MidnightGeek99 You get EAX 5 with XFI cards; Battlefield2, UT2004, Quake4, Bioshcok and Mass Effect all use. It's epic. Higher bitrate too. WinXP only OS that supports X-FI native, really wroth using IMO.
I totally forgot about PhysX :)) I don't know if I'm going to play games newer than those tested in this video, but this might be a possibility in the future, sure. What I love about the HD 4890 is that it was the strongest HD 4000 series card.
@@MidnightGeek99Crysis, AVP, does. If it is Supposed it is Great. Also have 16GB or DDR3 2400 Ram. XP only Supports 3.3 or so but the Others OS (Vista - W7.) Will see all 16GB. Every OS on SSD.
@@MidnightGeek99 Its showing 95 in the vid, making it a bit painfull to watch. At that temp the core will degrate over time. Did you run the fan on auto profile? Might want to set it to 100% on hot days and put some fans around it.
Ultimate, seriously now? IMHO, the ultimate XP PC would be something like ASRock Z97 Extreme6 + i7-4790K @ 5GHZ + GTX 780 Ti (or even a modded GTX 980 Ti)... now, that would be a proper hot-rod! And yes... there's full Intel drivers support for LGA1150 motherboards and CPUs... although they keep saying there's none. Is it an over-kill? Absolutely! Thing is, LGA1150 motherboards and CPUs are more recent and therefore affordable and cheap. Oh... and don't forget some really cool X79 platforms ;) Sellers at eBay, AliExpress and the likes are more than aware of the "value" of their retro-XP offerings so the prices are anything short of "uncomfortable". However, LGA1150 and even more modern platforms can be used for XP setups.... just ask the uncle Google ;)
ua-cam.com/video/3M1F6e9yv7c/v-deo.html I have here something more...ultimate! I have an i7 4790k and an MSI Z97 GD65, Win XP install crashes, it won't work. Also, you don't need such a beast, the most demanding game for Windows XP is STALKER, and STALKER runs great on much lower hardware. Crysis has DX10, that's a Windows Vista game :)
Quality content, great games good humour and awesome production values, i will watch this 5 times
Thank you :) It seems that not all games run perfect with 16xAA, so that GTX 960 is going to be the perfect fit.
A good budget CPU for Windows XP "overkill" machine is an i3 2120 with hyperthreading disabled, 2 cores at 3.3Ghz with nice performance, most games only use 2 cores anyway as you can see in MSI Afterburner overlay. Pair it with a GTX 560 (or similar) and you can run all XP era games at maximum resolution/details and still use Windows 10 for general tasks. Great video 👌
Thank you!
The i3 2120 was inside one of my past computers, and I also had an MSI GTX 560 Ti Twin Frozr II, great video card indeed.
I'm planning to upgrade the system to a GTX 960 and maybe a faster i5 Ivy Bridge (3470 or 3570).
@@MidnightGeek99 or maybe a 4th gen CPU, i3 4170 is a good one, low power, nice IPC, can still use DDR3 from previous generations and will push the GTX 960 nicely. Waiting to see that new build.
recently found your channel and i saw this video just now, your videos never fail to be amazing
Thanks, I'm glad you're enjoying the content :)
Ha! Great fun and such a nice machine for awesome XP gaming! I remember that disabling "soft shadows" gave a huge fps boost in FEAR.
Disabling Shadows in Doom 3 also has a huge boost in FPS.
I was looking through the entire FEAR video and it seems that Soft Shadows are disabled...Soft Shadows don't look way better and as you've said, the performance was lowered considerable.
This is the only option from all games that isn't set to maximum.
@@BaguetesGarage :))) To be fair, Soft Shadows vs Normal Shadows in FEAR is very different vs. Shadows and No Shadows in Doom 3.
2:48 🏗🤣 I laughed hard !
:D
How did you manage to install Half Life 2 on the XP machine without Steam? I have the original CD but don't know how to make it work without Steam.
Valve was good with us, you can copy the HL2 folder installed with Steam from your modern PC, right into Windows XP, it has no DRM, it does not require Steam to run.
There are other games that can be just copied to XP: Doom 3, Dungeon Siege 2...here is the big list:
www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/The_big_list_of_DRM-free_games_on_Steam
For Doom 3 & Quake 4 instead of vsync I'd recommend setting your own fps cap via something like an old version of MSI Afterburner with Rivatuner Server Statistics installed alongside it & making a profile for the exe of the game setting it between 65 - 80 fps.
Also might be able too push that monitor you are using too 74 - 85 hz if you mess about a bit with custom resolutions & adjust scaling options if needed.
The problem with Doom 3 over 60 FPS is that the game speeds up, do you think that if I'll be using your solution, the game will run at 100% speed, even over 60 FPS?
The next video will be about upgrading this system, you're going to see there what I've done with the display and with resolutions :)
@@MidnightGeek99 Huh maybe just a 60 fps cap in the game engine was set with some patch at some point maybe ?
Don't remember having game speed issues without vsync here at least on my hd 5770 which is easily overkill for doom 3.
@@Mini-z1994 Have a look here: ua-cam.com/video/bi7X65UKeGs/v-deo.html
That was great.
Thank you!
Also, welcome back, that CPU of yours is absolute gorgeous, I'll be upgrading to a 5900X soon, I hope :)
ua-cam.com/video/Ox46mJ5DFRE/v-deo.html
2:46 That form factor.
I like trying new things. You should see me apply the thermal paste!
@@MidnightGeek99
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Yeah, sorry, UA-cam deleted your picture with the "paste", it was funny :))
Interesting theme of maximum assembly for Windows XP.
:)
Very nice system. I think I ran an even more overpowered windows XP system, with an intel i7 980x, X58 motherboard, triple channel 3x1GB ram (it's funny how disproportionate the ram is), a Sapphire 7970 Ghz edition (3GB again - the initial video card was a nvidia 295GTX that I ran for the first 2 years of the system) and a raid 0 of 3 velociraptors (no failure in almost 8 years until I couldn't stand the noise and heat anymore).
Well, you had some choice components there, and if I'm not mistaken, the 7970 was the strongest single-GPU card from ATI that had official support for Windows XP.
I think that no failure in 8 years for Raid 0 with Velociraptors is a world record, you should apply to Guinness World Records :)
Have you encountered any issues / incompatibilities / oddities with Win XP games?
@@MidnightGeek99 "oddities with Win XP games" - Yes indeed. I even had an hierarchy of graphics cards that can play NFS Porsche. The last Radeon is the 5000 series. And I can vouch for the 200 Series from Nvidia. (I think it goes all the way to 400 series) NFS Porsche is a little odd as it runs fine on Windows 10 with an old enough graphics card. Red Alert 2 also had issues. Steam's Return to Castle Wolfenstein had really low framerates, it was embarrassing. Other games ran fine (GTA, NFS, Farcry, Command & conquer) nothing in particular that a new driver didn't fix.
Is it that common for failures with the Raid 0? I had only 2 Velo my first two years. Then sometimes in 2012 or 2013 I upgraded the system: added a third velociraptor, replaced the 295GTX with the 7970 and added another 3X 4GB ram making it a grand total of 15Gb of ram, everybody was correcting me saying I had 16Gb :)). Also made the system dual boot XP and windows 7. In 2018 swapped the 7970 for a 1080Ti and finally put windows XP to rest on this machine. That's how I got into the retro business, I had to play Porsche and a decent framerate Wolfenstein.
@@TechLab47 NFS Porsche is a very "sad" game, it needs the perfect environment to run, he has very few friends...for example, CPUs over 2.2 / 2.3 GHz are not its friends.
Actually, AMD has drivers for XP up to the HD 7000 series, and Nvidia up to GTX 970.
Raid 0 simply means that if any on the drives fail, the entire Raid will fail, and considering that you had 3 HDDs, for a long period of time, that spinned like crazy at 10000 RPMs, you got lucky :)
I got into the retro stuff because the mouse cursor does not work in Dungeon Siege 2, on Windows 10 :))
@@MidnightGeek99 Well, I have to say that you have even less of a reason to get into retro :)).(It doesn't work in compatibility mode?) I have to say that I never noticed the 2.2/2.3 Ghz barrier for Porsche and I did finish it several times on my i7. As long as you have one of the video cards below 480GTX or HD5870 it doesn't matter the operating system at least that's my conclusion. I'm currently running it on the 1080Ti (and a Ryzen9 that often boosts over 5Ghz) with the 4k patch ...that's actually switching it to the glide driver. I plan on making a clip about the range of hardware that game can be run on.
About the raid 0 it's pretty sure I wasn't that lucky.(I usually am not, when something can break...it usually breaks for me) I put my faith in that raid more than I put it on a new SSD and it never failed me. Those velociraptors are something else. By the time I had given up on the raid0 I had 5 similar harddrives and a couple of weeks ago I got another one. I plan on making a video and adding 1 harddrive at a time and rebuilding the raid0 and see the performance increase.
@@TechLab47 I've spent 2 hours trying to fix the issue, and I fixed it by running the game in Windowed mode, borderless etc., but I did not like that.
I had a lot of problems trying to run Porsche 2000, I'm glad that someone succeeded :))
2:47 _Standard insertion for a nonstandard motherboard. Go ahead, Geek. Slot the board into the chassis._
As for Half-Life 2 vs Doom 3 debate, I'd go with HL2 since like you said, it offers more environments, there is a sense of time passing with levels having different day / night skyboxes, there's more color etc. Doom 3 on the other hand is just the same looking corridor over and over, throwing the same handful of enemies and tricks. I think Quake 4 / Prey 2006 did a better job with the engine :)
I had to insert the motherboard somehow :))
I totally agree with you on HL2 vs D3, objectively speaking HL2 has more things going for it, that's why my take on Doom 3 is purely subjective, and on top of it, it also has a huge dose of nostalgia, as Doom 3 gave me some fond memories in 2004 / 2005.
I always check the current on the GPU+CPU connectors under load with an amp clamp, just out of curiosity. I've personally never seen a card that pulled more than 10A per 6 pin. So I'd say 20A for the card and 10A for that CPU and you're still staying well below the PSU max.
I never checked the loads, but I want to buy a device for doing that, it sounds like fun!
@@MidnightGeek99 I bought a UNI-T model UT210D with a DC capable amp clamp for ~25€ some years ago. A cheap but invaluable tool.
@@Shmbler I might borrow one from a friend and do some tests, get the handle of things :)
Why You get 80 degrees? Have You change Thermal paste?
The paste was changed last year by its former owner, so I assumed I don't need to change it again.
Also, looking at some reviews with the BFG edition, the temps are very high, towards 90 in some reviews.
www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-geforce-roundup,2297-18.html
@@MidnightGeek99 I have this GTX275 and temperatures are not that bad storage.googleapis.com/pctuning-cz/media/images/oaa9oaaz9odru0660ce43980dd25596256584.jpg
Felicitari pt sistem, un pic (foarte) overpowered pt XP era dar better safe than sorry :P Eu m-am oprit la Core 2 Duo X6800, 3 gigi ram 1066 Dominator ca sa intre in hora tic cu tac cu fsb-ul procului si o 8800GTS 512, de care am avut intotdeauna un "crush" inexplicabil.
Nici sistemul tau nu e foarte "period correct" :))
Pentru majoritatea jocurilor este overpowered, dar asa cum ai vazut, unele jocuri ruleaza sub 60 FPS la 1600x1200 max settings, 16xAA.
GF 8800 GTS era o bestie de placa, poate de aceea te-ai indragostit de ea :)
@@MidnightGeek99 Adevarat ca si al meu joaca hora in majoritatea jocurilor din era late Xp, desi niciodata nu mi s-a parut ca oblivion e fluid in exterior cu shadows maxed out. Dar aici intervine si gradul de optimizare al titlului respectiv presupun. Oficial, orice joc incepand cu 2007 e trecut de era xp, dar 8800 gts e fix din 2007, de aceea am considerat-o high end-ul perfect pt sistem. Initial am vrut sa ma opresc la 8800 Ultra (sau GTX), dar prefer sa le tin pt colectie, nu am curajul sa le rulez prea des :D si-n plus GTS-ul e la mustata cu ele, deci...
@@andreisrl In primul rand, daca ai un 8800 Ultra functional...pastreaza-l bine :)
In al doilea rand, treaba cu "period-correct", asta e prea nou, aia e prea veche etc. nu conteaza, tot ce conteaza e sa have fun...sa faci ce iti place tie.
@@MidnightGeek99 Ca bine zici, cand eram mic un celeron 500 cu 64 ram si riva tnt vanta 8mb erau lumea mea, ma jucam deus ex cu ochii in pioneze la 15 fps si nu m-am dat batut pana nu l-am terminat :))
@@andreisrl Exact :)
That thumbnail seriously has to go. Second request. Do I have to make a video? I run a Silverstone TJ10 case with enough front I/O eye candy to challenge a Christmas tree. I7-2700k OC to 4.7 and a Nvidea Titan X. The Samsung Evo SSD is a must for anything even flirting with "ultimate" status. It quad boots XP 32, Xp 64, Vista, and Windows 10 and in Win10 hangs with my Rizen 2600X. Listen, kid, I know people do what they can with a budget and everyone wants to be a "UA-camr" with click bait thumbnails to help drive synthetically driven revenue, but that doesn't mean you have to be the poster child for "overzealous."
Thanks :)
this is more like a decent windows vista pc
Actually it's more like a decent Windows 7 PC :)
This PC will be a quad-boot eventually, Windows XP, Vista, 7 and Ubuntu, that's why I needed to be powerful enough for Windows 7, and still compatible with Windows XP.
Windows XP the only OS you can run XFI soundcards, jump in that privilege!
I don't have one right now, but I'm "hunting" for one, there are a few games that support EAX 4.0 (Quake 4 for example), and I want to enjoy the game to the fullest :)
@@MidnightGeek99 XFi cards readily available and cheap on U.K. eBay.
@@GTFour I'm planning to upgrade some components for this PC, I'm going to change the audio card to an Audigy 4, I really don't know how good it is, but it has EAX 4.0, for games such as Doom 3 and Quake 4.
@@MidnightGeek99 You get EAX 5 with XFI cards; Battlefield2, UT2004, Quake4, Bioshcok and Mass Effect all use. It's epic. Higher bitrate too. WinXP only OS that supports X-FI native, really wroth using IMO.
@@GTFour I'll be looking for one, thanks :)
GTX 275 is better solution.You can run nVidia physix in some games like :Batman ,Mirror's edge...
I totally forgot about PhysX :))
I don't know if I'm going to play games newer than those tested in this video, but this might be a possibility in the future, sure.
What I love about the HD 4890 is that it was the strongest HD 4000 series card.
16X AA is a Waste.
Probably, I will test this exact thing in the part 2 of this video, I'm going to upgrade the GPU to something more potent.
@@MidnightGeek99 My Retro Gaming PC Has SLI EVGA GTX 570s, i5 3570K @ 4.50Ghz. XP, Vista, 7. Triple Boot. All Built from old New Stock.
@@ly-jr.2847 Nice! You really need that oc, especially for Windows XP :))
How is SLI working, do you have many games that support it?
@@MidnightGeek99Crysis, AVP, does. If it is Supposed it is Great. Also have 16GB or DDR3 2400 Ram. XP only Supports 3.3 or so but the Others OS (Vista - W7.) Will see all 16GB. Every OS on SSD.
@@MidnightGeek99 Keep the Retro Stuff Coming…. Thanks…. Prey from 2006 is a Must…..
It’s dirty because I’ve never cleaned it in the 10 years that I owned it 🤣
Hey, thanks for this awesome PC!
Actually it was quite clean, my current computer is way more dirtier :)
You should really learn to clean and repaste old cards or not buy them at all, cause 90 degrees is going to break it. I mean its a 30 minute job.
The BFG GTX 275 gets hot, 80+, and also, the card was cleaned and repasted.
@@MidnightGeek99 Ooh ok, mine doesn't get to 95.
@@0MeALot0 95 is a lot though, as far as I remember, my GTX 275 gets close to 90.
@@MidnightGeek99 Its showing 95 in the vid, making it a bit painfull to watch. At that temp the core will degrate over time. Did you run the fan on auto profile? Might want to set it to 100% on hot days and put some fans around it.
That's far too powerful for an XP system, that's well into the Windows 7 lifespan...
That was the purpose of the build, to be too powerful, although if you play FEAR at 1600x1200 max settings, you'll see some drops.
Ultimate, seriously now?
IMHO, the ultimate XP PC would be something like ASRock Z97 Extreme6 + i7-4790K @ 5GHZ + GTX 780 Ti (or even a modded GTX 980 Ti)... now, that would be a proper hot-rod!
And yes... there's full Intel drivers support for LGA1150 motherboards and CPUs... although they keep saying there's none. Is it an over-kill? Absolutely! Thing is, LGA1150 motherboards and CPUs are more recent and therefore affordable and cheap. Oh... and don't forget some really cool X79 platforms ;)
Sellers at eBay, AliExpress and the likes are more than aware of the "value" of their retro-XP offerings so the prices are anything short of "uncomfortable". However, LGA1150 and even more modern platforms can be used for XP setups.... just ask the uncle Google ;)
ua-cam.com/video/3M1F6e9yv7c/v-deo.html
I have here something more...ultimate!
I have an i7 4790k and an MSI Z97 GD65, Win XP install crashes, it won't work. Also, you don't need such a beast, the most demanding game for Windows XP is STALKER, and STALKER runs great on much lower hardware.
Crysis has DX10, that's a Windows Vista game :)