Hey! I've got a content suggestion : I think many of us wouldn't know where to buy good quality basics : great jeans, white cotton shirt, trench coat, leather perfecto or timeless handbag. Maybe you could help out with your brands & factories knowledge ?
this is quite simple to find. Levi’s jeans, just search “100% cotton tee pack” and you’ll find white ones, the last three you state will honestly require YOU to research yourself. those aren’t cheap nor items you just buy online without ever trying on. please just find local places go try the items on, feel them and determine for yourself the quality and price point you want to spend.
That horizontal weave you are talking about is the hallmark of Champion's classic premium sweatshirts. It was Champion that introduced this technique, patented I think back in the 1930s, and it's called Reverse Weave - shrink resistant, durable, and made to last. All things in this line are clearly marked on the label.
Yup These guys know a LOT about fabric - down to that it is carded yarn, and such. But I am very surprised how little they know of classic Champion reverse weave...17-18oz was the standard (500gsm) - and you find almost no one going over 360 today. But if you own any of the 1990 type ones anymore - you know every supreme detail is like taking an old 1990 Champion and just copying it. Yes - 500gsm was quite substantial and normal - as was the way too heavy doubled hood....but if worn in winter in NYC - that is the only time you are pulling it up over your head and thankful
Yeah those champion reverse weave hoodies are still some of the best hoodies you can get, it’s really all I buy. the shape stays so perfect through washes and dries.
Watching this as a knitter is so funny to me. The rib on one side, flat on the other makes sense to me! It would help how the rib sits and be more comfortable against the skin
Love both these guys but overkill with this video. Yall finishing each other sentences inaccurately. Don't think we need both of y'all going over the same topics. Maybe GSMBro cut the pieces up and Will drop the sauce on the factory/sourcing.
the undercut to skaters and the attention to detail is funny. skate culture provides so many style notes to fashion for a reason. skaters are tasteful people and pay crazy attention to detail, especially in their craft, media, and fashion (quality included). skating alone needs so much attention to detail.
Supreme = New York. There's intention behind that hoodie. But great, was going to use the same factory. Don't believe all their stuff is made this way.
pre-2016 supreme hoodies are way thicker/heavier than the current Supreme hoodies. The current supreme hoodies are boxy, loose fitting and not as heavy. I always find myself going back to the Champion reverse weave hoodies are great and affordable!!!!
This Palace hoodie is their "premium" line, with the white tag on collar. Their hoodies or tees don't always have the white Palace tag, they sometimes have the Triferg logo printed on inside of the collar instead. These one are less expensive and are a bit less quality, from my experience. I am always very satisfied with Palace though. I like your content a lot, keep it up ! 😊
That’s so funny I’ve bought Palace for years but never knew this 😂 I guess it’s because I don’t really buy their shirts or hoodies ever, only jackets accessories headwear collabs etc.
The reason for the double knit rib should be clear. The rib look on the outside is substantial - and what you have to go with to look big and chunky - but it also has a tendency to spread as it is much more sweater like. to stop that some people put a small amount of lycra yarn into the knit - to have it bounce back, but that is almost always visible - and gives a plastic feel. If you double knit with the much less elastic single jersey on the back side, it will keep its taughtness and shape better during wear and wash. I've made millions of sweats all over the world, and all of these are stylistic choices, accommodations, and just like one of you said, sometimes something the factory experimented with once, and then just started pushing out to their customers as a special aspect. Often the buyers and product managers don't like to get into that level of understanding - and they end up just sticking with the factory because - stuff from them just feels different. Another thing is how often the choices are made based on whatever inspiration sample the buyer had in that moment. The supreme very clearly has every hallmark of a 1990 Champion Reverse Weave - which would have cost $49 retail even back then - which they may have picked up at a vintage shop - and the dryness, weight and details just made the entire thing seem "perfect" The blue marks on the inside are from the factory and are to line up where the embroideries should go - and tend to go away in the wash. The one guy should know you don't really have any minimums on garment dying - maybe 50pieces depending on what size tubs you are working with - but also what your tolerances are on consistency. I do have to say I am very impressed with hitting the 500 exactly on such a light colorway - I would be interested to know what a dark color comes out at, my guess would be 512gsm. The grey heather marl - looking from outside is not YARN DYED - it is fibre dyed usually...can also be achieved with yarn dying a blended yarn (Meaning CVC) where the cotton takes on the color more than the poly. But the classic Grey Heather that is used on so many sweats is dyed at cotton fibre level in a blow room BEFORE it is spun into yarn - with big books of what color shades you are looking for. If you are not picking a yarn and color that is on stock - this could increase minimums tremendously - as these blow rooms are a pain in the kiester to clean up and set up.
Dude these videos and ur chanel are sick , im currently a fashion student and its cool seeing what im learning in my textiles class in real world applications
Proper!!! Give me bang for buck, even church me a little bit more, but make it worth my while, want me to buy it because the quality is there and the extra money is worth it
I think you also need to consider which season collection that the hoodie belong. Some brand made their fall winter item heavier and summer thinner. That supreme looks like it from FW and the Palace is from Summer
I don't even buy shirts because of brand or look, so you don't even need to buy because others says you should or shouldn't be buying from a specific brand. I go off of shape and quality of fabric. The shirts I have been wearing for the past 5 years come from Walmart and they are great quality. Sorry I won't give away what brand and I am not the only one that knows because they always sell out of the ones I buy now a days, so it looks like I might have to buy another brand from elsewhere, which I am upset about, because the price I buy them for is unbeatable for the quality
As someone starting a label, this content is genuinely some of the best I’ve come across. Super thankful for the detail and information, that is so often gate kept. Super dope. 🙏🏻
Great video. I’m interested to see if you guys could do a Spring/Summer hoodie from Supreme. This was a Fall/Winter one so they’re typically thicker to combat the NY cold, but the Spring/Summer ones are SLIGHTLY less thick
The same material champion reverse weave hoodies for a fraction of the price of supreme. Champion the company that actually invented the reverse weave hoodie.
what other companies make quality sweaters at the $100-150 mark? Annoyed with the fast fashion sweaters that get frayed or shrink an entire size after a few washes, but are still $25-50.
This was a fascinating video that surprisingly kept my attention the whole time. I don’t own either brand but good to know not all clothing is manufactured in Asia. I was rather surprised how much the Supreme hoodie cost to make and that the brand is keeping it premium. What’s the name of the brand at 9:20?
Yeah I’ll stick to my dixxon & riot society hoodies 90$ each. Riot society hoodie diesel jogger jeans jordans low 1s triple white. The nicest most comfortable everyday outfit.
Any videos that breaks down explaining the different fabrics? I know to stay away from Polyester and Acrylic, but what about Viscose and Rayon? Obviously Silk, Wool, Cotton, Linen are good.
Often the minimums are also higher - because of transshipment - where the goods were made in China, a whole container is sent to the other country and papers are exchanged - and the container is NEVER opened.
Nice review and breakdown video. This Supreme hood is built for the cold uk weather and places like NY, Canada and Europe. You've got to add that into your assessment like you've add the fact its good for protection when falling as a skateboarders. I mean after all this is a street brand.
Supreme hoodies are made for purpose, its gets freaking cold up north ,there perfect , your judging needs to take this into account, not just fashion/feeling
160$ is crazy expensive but because it is supreme so they do target a specific consumers. And being too heavy if the fabric is rough then sure it is not a good fabric, but with such GSM and nice smoothly hand feel it is absolutely a good choice
@@AhmedsVibes the thick fabrics is so when you skate it you can still wear it rougher fabrics don’t tear as easily from my experience got to remember both started as are skate company’s even if they are boutique fashion brands now
It is kind of crazy when you think they market themselves as a skate brand for broke skaters. They also know because it’s a hype brand for hype beasts they can get away with charging more. I am glad to see it is high quality and they’re not outsourcing to questionable countries overseas.
Hey! I've got a content suggestion : I think many of us wouldn't know where to buy good quality basics : great jeans, white cotton shirt, trench coat, leather perfecto or timeless handbag. Maybe you could help out with your brands & factories knowledge ?
We all want to know!!
this is quite simple to find. Levi’s jeans, just search “100% cotton tee pack” and you’ll find white ones, the last three you state will honestly require YOU to research yourself. those aren’t cheap nor items you just buy online without ever trying on. please just find local places go try the items on, feel them and determine for yourself the quality and price point you want to spend.
Artie maker.
That horizontal weave you are talking about is the hallmark of Champion's classic premium sweatshirts. It was Champion that introduced this technique, patented I think back in the 1930s, and it's called Reverse Weave - shrink resistant, durable, and made to last. All things in this line are clearly marked on the label.
Yup
These guys know a LOT about fabric - down to that it is carded yarn, and such. But I am very surprised how little they know of classic Champion reverse weave...17-18oz was the standard (500gsm) - and you find almost no one going over 360 today.
But if you own any of the 1990 type ones anymore - you know every supreme detail is like taking an old 1990 Champion and just copying it.
Yes - 500gsm was quite substantial and normal - as was the way too heavy doubled hood....but if worn in winter in NYC - that is the only time you are pulling it up over your head and thankful
Yeah those champion reverse weave hoodies are still some of the best hoodies you can get, it’s really all I buy. the shape stays so perfect through washes and dries.
So insightful! Another killer video Will, much love
Watching this as a knitter is so funny to me. The rib on one side, flat on the other makes sense to me! It would help how the rib sits and be more comfortable against the skin
Do you reassemble after?
Can you do this video on Warren lotas hoodies 🙏🏽
Thanks for the great vid. The link to Joe’s channel: doesnt work for me
fixed it, thank you!
Where you sold what you buy I’m want this Amazon ?😮
$20-$25 is the answer
10k likes for loro piana deconstruction 👀
I’m saying like daaamn
I could wear a L supreme hoodie but only xxl for palace
Cut up the good shit next 🙏
Love both these guys but overkill with this video. Yall finishing each other sentences inaccurately. Don't think we need both of y'all going over the same topics. Maybe GSMBro cut the pieces up and Will drop the sauce on the factory/sourcing.
but its still a hoodie...
But they’re still hoodies… this guy looks like an overgrown child in them.
HIGH ESTROGEN IN BOTH OF THESE GUYS SMH
the undercut to skaters and the attention to detail is funny. skate culture provides so many style notes to fashion for a reason. skaters are tasteful people and pay crazy attention to detail, especially in their craft, media, and fashion (quality included). skating alone needs so much attention to detail.
Supreme = New York. There's intention behind that hoodie. But great, was going to use the same factory. Don't believe all their stuff is made this way.
Can you pull apart an Arcteryx Veilance jacket or coat. Maybe the Isogon MX
pre-2016 supreme hoodies are way thicker/heavier than the current Supreme hoodies. The current supreme hoodies are boxy, loose fitting and not as heavy. I always find myself going back to the Champion reverse weave hoodies are great and affordable!!!!
Yeah those champion reverse weave are some of the best hoodies they stay in shape perfect. I have like every color.
Supreme hoodies are perfect for NY winters. The thickness and stiffness is necessary
New yorkers never heard of layering? lol
@@Plague_Doc22 They're too broke living in NYC to layer.
@@Plague_Doc22they do layer…
@@frmacst108thats the only reason i would want to live in ny for lol obv the food and vibess but ive always lived in ca the change wud be nice
@@stevensanchez7740 I mean there are plenty of places in the us that get cold. North and east of you not too far. Just visit during a cold season
This Palace hoodie is their "premium" line, with the white tag on collar. Their hoodies or tees don't always have the white Palace tag, they sometimes have the Triferg logo printed on inside of the collar instead. These one are less expensive and are a bit less quality, from my experience. I am always very satisfied with Palace though.
I like your content a lot, keep it up ! 😊
That’s so funny I’ve bought Palace for years but never knew this 😂 I guess it’s because I don’t really buy their shirts or hoodies ever, only jackets accessories headwear collabs etc.
The reason for the double knit rib should be clear.
The rib look on the outside is substantial - and what you have to go with to look big and chunky - but it also has a tendency to spread as it is much more sweater like. to stop that some people put a small amount of lycra yarn into the knit - to have it bounce back, but that is almost always visible - and gives a plastic feel. If you double knit with the much less elastic single jersey on the back side, it will keep its taughtness and shape better during wear and wash.
I've made millions of sweats all over the world, and all of these are stylistic choices, accommodations, and just like one of you said, sometimes something the factory experimented with once, and then just started pushing out to their customers as a special aspect.
Often the buyers and product managers don't like to get into that level of understanding - and they end up just sticking with the factory because - stuff from them just feels different.
Another thing is how often the choices are made based on whatever inspiration sample the buyer had in that moment. The supreme very clearly has every hallmark of a 1990 Champion Reverse Weave - which would have cost $49 retail even back then - which they may have picked up at a vintage shop - and the dryness, weight and details just made the entire thing seem "perfect"
The blue marks on the inside are from the factory and are to line up where the embroideries should go - and tend to go away in the wash.
The one guy should know you don't really have any minimums on garment dying - maybe 50pieces depending on what size tubs you are working with - but also what your tolerances are on consistency.
I do have to say I am very impressed with hitting the 500 exactly on such a light colorway - I would be interested to know what a dark color comes out at, my guess would be 512gsm.
The grey heather marl - looking from outside is not YARN DYED - it is fibre dyed usually...can also be achieved with yarn dying a blended yarn (Meaning CVC) where the cotton takes on the color more than the poly. But the classic Grey Heather that is used on so many sweats is dyed at cotton fibre level in a blow room BEFORE it is spun into yarn - with big books of what color shades you are looking for. If you are not picking a yarn and color that is on stock - this could increase minimums tremendously - as these blow rooms are a pain in the kiester to clean up and set up.
It’s in the small details 💯
That was insightful thanks for sharing your experience
Dude these videos and ur chanel are sick , im currently a fashion student and its cool seeing what im learning in my textiles class in real world applications
A Polo Ralph Lauren Hoodie and their clothing I would be interesting
Bring some good shit for us, dont go crazy with your markup and we'll buy something of quality from you.
Proper!!! Give me bang for buck, even church me a little bit more, but make it worth my while, want me to buy it because the quality is there and the extra money is worth it
I think you also need to consider which season collection that the hoodie belong. Some brand made their fall winter item heavier and summer thinner. That supreme looks like it from FW and the Palace is from Summer
ppl wanna clown me for still buying supreme, but their garments (excluding the ones made in china) are and always have been quality.
I don't even buy shirts because of brand or look, so you don't even need to buy because others says you should or shouldn't be buying from a specific brand. I go off of shape and quality of fabric. The shirts I have been wearing for the past 5 years come from Walmart and they are great quality. Sorry I won't give away what brand and I am not the only one that knows because they always sell out of the ones I buy now a days, so it looks like I might have to buy another brand from elsewhere, which I am upset about, because the price I buy them for is unbeatable for the quality
I buy the only buy the stiff feeling hoodies from Supreme. I love the comfort and the feel. Also, the are super warm and last forever!
As someone starting a label, this content is genuinely some of the best I’ve come across. Super thankful for the detail and information, that is so often gate kept. Super dope. 🙏🏻
where can I buy hoodie for $50 that have the same quality as supreme's hoodies. Don't care about brand but I need that quality
Is that red crewneck you have on from Whitesville? Would you consider creating a comparison video featuring similar brands?
This was actually such a great fun way of learning fabric processes, maybe I didn’t need a uni degree
Supreme uses Independent IND5000P blanks, and has for 20+ years
With all the crap you guys talk, your linked manufacturers better be on their stuff..
The dress from *amzclothes* is such a stylish and elegant dress. The red color is so classy and icy. I can't wait to add it to my wardrobe. Thank you.
40-50$ you mean the CM price only ? Or FOB ?
I’m like what you show but so expensive for me if I’m will be buying in America in Amazon like ten times alll😮
That US Air Corps logo is place way too high on that sweater, very off!
Great video. I’m interested to see if you guys could do a Spring/Summer hoodie from Supreme. This was a Fall/Winter one so they’re typically thicker to combat the NY cold, but the Spring/Summer ones are SLIGHTLY less thick
palace hoodie a big longer than the supreme hoodie ..
i liked the palace hoodie more..
but i hate the fly design.
Can you do a video on different textiles, what makes a good one etc.
Don't buy clothes that cost a lot of money it's the same shit you already wear with a logo on it
Love this type of content, thank you guys for the amazing work!
Love my supreme hoodies. Especially older heavyweight crossgrain cotton ones
The same material champion reverse weave hoodies for a fraction of the price of supreme. Champion the company that actually invented the reverse weave hoodie.
Pls info your web. Can not read from name card.. Tq
what other companies make quality sweaters at the $100-150 mark? Annoyed with the fast fashion sweaters that get frayed or shrink an entire size after a few washes, but are still $25-50.
American Giant, House of Blanks, Champion reverse weave
What would the order quantities from these brands look like on unique hoodies like this be?
I'm here for the 10k likes. And for the algo. Fun channel!
I MEGA want that Loro Piana video!!
You heard it correctly, 10k likes ❤
would love to see your takes on "rugged" and "work gear" type clothing.
This was a fascinating video that surprisingly kept my attention the whole time. I don’t own either brand but good to know not all clothing is manufactured in Asia. I was rather surprised how much the Supreme hoodie cost to make and that the brand is keeping it premium. What’s the name of the brand at 9:20?
Loro Piana
3658 Lehner Ports
Yeah I’ll stick to my dixxon & riot society hoodies 90$ each. Riot society hoodie diesel jogger jeans jordans low 1s triple white. The nicest most comfortable everyday outfit.
supreme ss and fw hoodies are different?
They used to be. Back in the days when supreme was using heavyweight crossgrain cotton for the sweatshirts. Don't think that's still the case tho
@@ArtificialRealContent I’m am very sure it’s different still
Absolutely love you guys content. Would love to see more of this with the amount of detailed description. This is great. Keep up!
they said 10k likes! let’s do this
Any videos that breaks down explaining the different fabrics? I know to stay away from Polyester and Acrylic, but what about Viscose and Rayon? Obviously Silk, Wool, Cotton, Linen are good.
Wow thank you...learned loads here, from Ireland...keep going guys. I rather the Palace !
Often the minimums are also higher - because of transshipment - where the goods were made in China, a whole container is sent to the other country and papers are exchanged - and the container is NEVER opened.
Your video quality and editing is amazing man. Really educational and engaging. Keep it up
The problem with these big brands is, different products they use different factories. Hit or miss.
This is my second video, the knowledge being dropped is bar none. I have no choice but to subscribe.
You know Palace is better quality. Supreme shrinks like crazy
w video
0:40 clear from the beginning 😂lol
It'd be very interesting and generate a ton of attention if you did a similar breakdown of Piana, Cucinelli etc!
It hurts 😂
Can you guys do Carthartt WIP soon?
Where's Oren
so many brands are at this quality, people love paying extra for the logo
You should cut up some of the Yeezy $20 merch like the hoodies
nice
awesome content
Love this
Etudes, best hoodie's so far that's not too pricey
Nice review and breakdown video. This Supreme hood is built for the cold uk weather and places like NY, Canada and Europe. You've got to add that into your assessment like you've add the fact its good for protection when falling as a skateboarders. I mean after all this is a street brand.
Uk life stops when some snow falls. To call ot cold is reaching
@basedpatriotLT it's colder than the US, and as he said, this hoodie might be made in Canada, and let me add for a UK and NY street scene. 🛹
awesome job Will, I love your videos
Brúnello and Loro would be nice to see
Check the 4YE hoodie
my 2 fav brands ...
Supreme hoodies are made for purpose, its gets freaking cold up north ,there perfect , your judging needs to take this into account, not just fashion/feeling
THEY'RE not perfect, and YOU'RE judging...
My new favorite channel!
Hearing you say it’s too heavy just makes me think you prefer shitty quality
Also 160 is too expensive for any hoodie
160$ is crazy expensive but because it is supreme so they do target a specific consumers. And being too heavy if the fabric is rough then sure it is not a good fabric, but with such GSM and nice smoothly hand feel it is absolutely a good choice
A cotton hoodie yes. I have a $300 cashmere hoodie that feels like a steal
@@AhmedsVibes the thick fabrics is so when you skate it you can still wear it rougher fabrics don’t tear as easily from my experience got to remember both started as are skate company’s even if they are boutique fashion brands now
@@AhmedsVibes rougher fabrics tends to not wear down as quickly when skating unfortunately they’re more boutique brands now so I hear you
It is kind of crazy when you think they market themselves as a skate brand for broke skaters. They also know because it’s a hype brand for hype beasts they can get away with charging more. I am glad to see it is high quality and they’re not outsourcing to questionable countries overseas.
Magnificent
Bro. Your content is good. I also make the best clothing items from pakistan. I supply worldwide.
Do Loro Piana
Good to see two experts deconstructing these two hoodies
Need more of this !
cant believed u cut the hoodies...wasted $$.
People who buy this shit are crazy
I use the same manufacturer as Supreme for my hoodie and crewnecks 🧶🇨🇦