Surprised there was no mention of the Tech overlap between Fo/Te/Bo. Not important but having an extra 6 SP on your main if you also use any of those as sub is a nice little bonus 😊
Unless ur running vershmel wouldn't slayer be the highest increase in dmg especially against bosses since u get 5 cr at all times vs fighter bouncer which are conditional
my second main class is fighter/braver. braver best sub-class with it as a sub-class you can still run it as main because brave combat isn’t lock behind main class restrictions like other class skill
I know its not much but I'm surprised that you didn't mention that Gunners Dodge PP Gain is available as Sublass now. admittedly it only applies to Sidesteps and TMG WA, but even still that made my Bo/Gu able to really keep on the pressure on bosses that I learned how to evade.
This is one of the things about this game that I genuinely love. The mixing and matching for classes. Personally, I used to run Bo(sb)/Fi, but these days I'm Sl/Fi. Not the tankiest by any means, but I do love the synergy. Am thinking about opting for Bo(sb)/Sl now though, cuz I haven't done testing yet, though I reckon the results might be pretty fun. If anyone has tested this combo do let me know! I haven't gotten my Bo to 80 yet, stuck at 70 since I switched to Slayer on release (and never switched back)
it all depends on your playstyle tbh you look for more dmg : slayer, bouncer, fighter survivability :hunter , waker trouble with pp; force maybe even gunner ranger, techter and braver are a no no for me as a subclass at least
I believe that Ranger sub has become more valuable recently, and it's due to the skill Stealth Strike. Most of the long-range/tech classes got a new skill (called Long Range Advantage on JP, not sure about Global) that increases PA/tech damage by 15% when you attack a boss enemy that isn't targeting you. It doesn't matter much when soloing, but in multiplayer quests having the skill active makes a huge difference. If you're playing a long-range/tech class and you happen to be one of the highest DPS in the group, having Stealth Strike can make it a lot easier to maintain Long Range Advantage.
Guys obviously the best sub class is the friends we made along the way 😌🙂↕️ lol I love the class system in this it finally really hooked me into after I finally figured out multi-weapons 😩😤😮💨 ENDLESS POSSIBILITIES 🫡 this is how FFXIV class system should have been now imagine if PSO2NGS had XIV-esque story 😮💨
i always use Force as my sub class for every class that i use force as sub is very perfect it for PP regenerate and at combat zone my PP wont go to zero everytime PSE burst and i spam using my non stop PA skill without worry PP goes out.....a lots of player i saw at combat zone sometime using slayer ...slayer have very powerful AOE attack and very useful at combat zone Waving Rigel is one of favorite PA skill they use but it they wont last longer till PSE burst end you know why cos they dont use force as sub class they run out of juice just few time using Waving Rigel at center of PSE burst...like me im using Fighter dagger my PA skill Helzeus Coat is like a cannon turret fire shock wave after shock wave for non stop at PSE burst without running out of PP thank to force my PP wont goes empty..with 2 other talis user we conquer retem combat zone 4 like war zone PA bullet fly everywhere everytime PSE goes burst so the other player can relex and have cup of tea till PSE end hahaha
Something you should have mentioned is using subjobs for the purpose of multi weapons. Personally when I use force or techter I use bouncer as a subjob so I can use jet intensity on downed bosses. Another useful multi weapon is having your subjob be waker multi weaponing a harmonizer and using it to mark bosses for the extra down and potency.
Waker has always been my sub since release. As a braver main i can mitigate sum of that healing nerf. But no matter what class i play as. Waker tends to be my sub.
I like getting as much PP as possible so I've been sticking with Force. Might switch to Waker though since I only just recently learned how Rifle's weapon action actually works xD
Hunter sub also is useful for using sword for a big pre fire hit during bosses that aren’t targetable for a few seconds. Then swap back to your regular class weapon after every prefire
you want sub class that has synergy with your main class, when you look at sub class look at multiplier in sub class area pick class that has best one for your main class synergy. It just come down too how you build your class
Is slayer a good subclass for braver? I have Flug Katana w Fixa Terimina 3 and am wondering how I would achieve the most dps. Sometimes I feel like the extra crit chance is more useful than bouncer/fighter sub on bosses, but I’m not too sure.
I did NOT know that about Waker! I'm glad I watched this video. I moved Keiko (the bunnygirl that was in one of your videos a while back) from Force because I heard it did the worst damage in the game to Braver, and while I was planning to have her keep Force as a subclass, I'll definitely want to switch that out for Waker when I need it because I'm old and bad at parrying lol
yeah as a waker main, it's ridiculous how much leeway the class gives me to be sloppy. i could spam FO pp conversion with reckless abandon and still survive just by passives alone.
Recently switched to Bouncer SB from Braver Katana, should I use force as subclass to forget about pp management? that active skill for pp regen is sweet
@randomf2pplayah768 I'm almost doing everything. PSE, Leciel, DQ and LTQs if there's one. I'm currently learning Solus tho. Should I just stick with force for everything?
@@LuxDivina__You can always swap I guess through loadouts? I'm lazy so I don't really switch my sub even at urgents/leciel. If you aren't doing pse bursts I'd say go for slayer/fighter subclass for more dps. If you are using the vershmelz series don't ever use slayer subclass since the extra 5% crit rate won't be of any use. Any other subclass is fine.
@@LuxDivina__ for dfs since you are still learning the fight waker subclass is god like Kero said. Gives you more chances at healing and rng innate healing on low hp. Helps your survivability naturally instead of perfectly gauging free healing windows.
@@randomf2pplayah768 I'm lazy too when it comes to changing subclasses lmao but oh well, guess I'll go for fighter subclass when bossing and force for everything else.
most dark falls solus run i do, people don't break the back and keep damaging him, so we don't break both arms all the times. i attack the back alone and have managed to break it some times, but, because of that, bouncer is useless to me. but on aegis it might be good
You don’t need to break the back to break both arms. Just break the 3 eggs, arm opens, break it, attack hands then move to the eggs when they appear, break them all then break 2nd arm. There’s no need to even touch Solus’ back.
@@clarissejunqueira1994 the eggs do count as a break. We manage to skip straight to the last egg phase after breaking eggs on the pillars following both arm breaks. Obviously this is for the 8 man UQ. However, we still don’t break the back for 4 man as there is no need.
All those who have no confidence in their abilities use Hunter/braver/waker as a sub to feel safer. All those who believe in their skills go into the offensive sub-classes. Of course, synergy is also available for some classes. Gunner takes Ranger on principle, because the harmony is there and the Ranger rounds off the Gunner. Same for bouncer and force/stechter which work perfectly together.
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note the heal over time of the waker is based on MAXIUM hp, so it is actually much better than it looks
4 years later, after transition from pso1 to pso2 its super refreshing to see you're still making guides. Love ya keroppi never stop.
Surprised there was no mention of the Tech overlap between Fo/Te/Bo. Not important but having an extra 6 SP on your main if you also use any of those as sub is a nice little bonus 😊
Been running Braver main and Hunter sub, I call it my turn off brain build 🤣
Unless ur running vershmel wouldn't slayer be the highest increase in dmg especially against bosses since u get 5 cr at all times vs fighter bouncer which are conditional
@keroppi
Wa/Hu Hu/Wa = immortality
Crazy I was looking through your channel for a video like this and boom you post one on my feed, good stuff!😂
Hunter/Waker never die combo.....🎉
my second main class is fighter/braver. braver best sub-class with it as a sub-class you can still run it as main because brave combat isn’t lock behind main class restrictions like other class skill
usually i will tell to my friend:
depent your style, each can can be covering your main weakness...read the skill description first....
I know its not much but I'm surprised that you didn't mention that Gunners Dodge PP Gain is available as Sublass now. admittedly it only applies to Sidesteps and TMG WA, but even still that made my Bo/Gu able to really keep on the pressure on bosses that I learned how to evade.
This is one of the things about this game that I genuinely love. The mixing and matching for classes. Personally, I used to run Bo(sb)/Fi, but these days I'm Sl/Fi. Not the tankiest by any means, but I do love the synergy. Am thinking about opting for Bo(sb)/Sl now though, cuz I haven't done testing yet, though I reckon the results might be pretty fun. If anyone has tested this combo do let me know! I haven't gotten my Bo to 80 yet, stuck at 70 since I switched to Slayer on release (and never switched back)
it all depends on your playstyle tbh
you look for more dmg : slayer, bouncer, fighter
survivability :hunter , waker
trouble with pp; force maybe even gunner
ranger, techter and braver are a no no for me as a subclass at least
Techter Bouncer usually or Techter Hunter when I'm playing difficult content. If I'm playing Braver or Hunter then force is my subclass
I have been using Waker as sub since these endgame bosses came out. Definitely has helped as a FO.
now make a vid on the pros and cons of each multi weap combinations
@@shadowlazers I don't see the problem there.
I believe that Ranger sub has become more valuable recently, and it's due to the skill Stealth Strike. Most of the long-range/tech classes got a new skill (called Long Range Advantage on JP, not sure about Global) that increases PA/tech damage by 15% when you attack a boss enemy that isn't targeting you. It doesn't matter much when soloing, but in multiplayer quests having the skill active makes a huge difference. If you're playing a long-range/tech class and you happen to be one of the highest DPS in the group, having Stealth Strike can make it a lot easier to maintain Long Range Advantage.
Very neat video tysm for this!
Guys obviously the best sub class is the friends we made along the way 😌🙂↕️ lol I love the class system in this it finally really hooked me into after I finally figured out multi-weapons 😩😤😮💨 ENDLESS POSSIBILITIES 🫡 this is how FFXIV class system should have been now imagine if PSO2NGS had XIV-esque story 😮💨
i always use Force as my sub class for every class that i use force as sub is very perfect it for PP regenerate and at combat zone my PP wont go to zero everytime PSE burst and i spam using my non stop PA skill without worry PP goes out.....a lots of player i saw at combat zone sometime using slayer ...slayer have very powerful AOE attack and very useful at combat zone Waving Rigel is one of favorite PA skill they use but it they wont last longer till PSE burst end you know why cos they dont use force as sub class they run out of juice just few time using Waving Rigel at center of PSE burst...like me im using Fighter dagger my PA skill Helzeus Coat is like a cannon turret fire shock wave after shock wave for non stop at PSE burst without running out of PP thank to force my PP wont goes empty..with 2 other talis user we conquer retem combat zone 4 like war zone PA bullet fly everywhere everytime PSE goes burst so the other player can relex and have cup of tea till PSE end hahaha
Something you should have mentioned is using subjobs for the purpose of multi weapons. Personally when I use force or techter I use bouncer as a subjob so I can use jet intensity on downed bosses. Another useful multi weapon is having your subjob be waker multi weaponing a harmonizer and using it to mark bosses for the extra down and potency.
Waker has always been my sub since release. As a braver main i can mitigate sum of that healing nerf. But no matter what class i play as. Waker tends to be my sub.
the healing is great, but i think that i need that pp gain from force, since my pp economization isn't great and well... slayer spends too muck pp
I like getting as much PP as possible so I've been sticking with Force. Might switch to Waker though since I only just recently learned how Rifle's weapon action actually works xD
Hunter sub also is useful for using sword for a big pre fire hit during bosses that aren’t targetable for a few seconds. Then swap back to your regular class weapon after every prefire
thenk you
you want sub class that has synergy with your main class, when you look at sub class look at multiplier in sub class area pick class that has best one for your main class synergy. It just come down too how you build your class
Ah I guess I was hinting in a hopeful way in my comment on your last video, So thank you for this, very helpful, cheers.
how many skill point can we get? im still new
If I recall correctly, we can presently get up to 50
47
@@VixyNyan thank you
thx @@VixyNyan
sir, can you tell if, the main Class is Launcher, what is best sub class for it?
Is slayer a good subclass for braver? I have Flug Katana w Fixa Terimina 3 and am wondering how I would achieve the most dps. Sometimes I feel like the extra crit chance is more useful than bouncer/fighter sub on bosses, but I’m not too sure.
Yup! Slayer is definitely viable, having that extra crit rate especially since you have Fixa Termina 3 is always a good thing!
I did NOT know that about Waker! I'm glad I watched this video. I moved Keiko (the bunnygirl that was in one of your videos a while back) from Force because I heard it did the worst damage in the game to Braver, and while I was planning to have her keep Force as a subclass, I'll definitely want to switch that out for Waker when I need it because I'm old and bad at parrying lol
yeah as a waker main, it's ridiculous how much leeway the class gives me to be sloppy. i could spam FO pp conversion with reckless abandon and still survive just by passives alone.
Recently switched to Bouncer SB from Braver Katana, should I use force as subclass to forget about pp management? that active skill for pp regen is sweet
If you run combat sectors a lot force will always be the best sub unless you are using the crystia series
@randomf2pplayah768 I'm almost doing everything. PSE, Leciel, DQ and LTQs if there's one. I'm currently learning Solus tho. Should I just stick with force for everything?
@@LuxDivina__You can always swap I guess through loadouts? I'm lazy so I don't really switch my sub even at urgents/leciel. If you aren't doing pse bursts I'd say go for slayer/fighter subclass for more dps. If you are using the vershmelz series don't ever use slayer subclass since the extra 5% crit rate won't be of any use. Any other subclass is fine.
@@LuxDivina__ for dfs since you are still learning the fight waker subclass is god like Kero said. Gives you more chances at healing and rng innate healing on low hp. Helps your survivability naturally instead of perfectly gauging free healing windows.
@@randomf2pplayah768 I'm lazy too when it comes to changing subclasses lmao but oh well, guess I'll go for fighter subclass when bossing and force for everything else.
Just started playing your videos are very helpful
Either Force or Hu for me.
Love ur vids bro, this vid was so important for me
Force, gimme pp regen
What chair are you using 👀
It's the Sihoo M57! Its pretty comfy and not too expensive
Waker.
most dark falls solus run i do, people don't break the back and keep damaging him, so we don't break both arms all the times. i attack the back alone and have managed to break it some times, but, because of that, bouncer is useless to me. but on aegis it might be good
You don’t need to break the back to break both arms. Just break the 3 eggs, arm opens, break it, attack hands then move to the eggs when they appear, break them all then break 2nd arm. There’s no need to even touch Solus’ back.
@@Martin52863 it stops sending the spikes everywhere though, it makes the first phase easyer
@@Martin52863 and also i was talking because of the bouncerbouncer skill, i doubt the eggs count as a break to that
@@clarissejunqueira1994 the eggs do count as a break. We manage to skip straight to the last egg phase after breaking eggs on the pillars following both arm breaks. Obviously this is for the 8 man UQ. However, we still don’t break the back for 4 man as there is no need.
The back is easy to break solo plus you will be in less danger then the people attacking the arms
should i come back to this game?
Check in every 6 months
Yes. Solus and the updated Aegis fight are awesome. Depends what kind of content you like I guess.
All those who have no confidence in their abilities use Hunter/braver/waker as a sub to feel safer.
All those who believe in their skills go into the offensive sub-classes.
Of course, synergy is also available for some classes.
Gunner takes Ranger on principle, because the harmony is there and the Ranger rounds off the Gunner.
Same for bouncer and force/stechter which work perfectly together.
Bouncer should take slayer or fighter sub.
First :) love the videos
People still play this dress up simulator?
Now building island simulator too
People still watch videos about a dress up simulator they don’t play anymore?
@@Papaw.Rooster I put many hours into base. It is a shame watching the slow death of ngs.
Techter/waker with a maxed out primm weapon. A proper healer class with a 50% chance of not using an item. 🤌