Of the 4 Pitchers mentioned - Brown 91 W Jones 229 W Hadley 161 W Liska 17 W = 498 W Walter Johnson, 417 W The only pitcher to have won more games than the 4 mentioned combined is Cy Young, 511 W
Interesting to see the pitching motion of a genuine submariner, Ad Liska. Looked up his record. He won 9 games the year before, but didn't stick with the team in '31. He lasted five years in the majors. When I was a kid, there were a couple of pitchers who threw about 3/4 underhand, Bruce Dal Canton and Dan Quisenberry, but no one completely underhanded like this. Bump Hadley who we also see here is the pitcher who almost killed Mickey Cochrane with a bean ball a couple of years after this. Around this time was one of the few times the Senators had a consistently very good team, and they won the pennant in 1933. I guess the depression probably forced them to sell off their best players and they went back to their accustomed spot in the second division.
I don't think Dal Canton was a submarine-style pitcher, he was a knuckleballer who threw overhand. Perhaps you are thinking of Ted Abernathy? Also Horacio Pina came from "down below" with his delivery.
Fascinating! The four pitchers at the 15:00 mark: Lloyd Brown - had the most starts with 32, went 15-14 with 3.20 ERA... Sad Sam Jones - 24 starts, 9-10 with 4.32 ERA... Bump Hadley - 11 starts but led club with 55 appearances, 11-10 with 3.06 ERA... Ed Liska - 1 start, 2 appearances, 0-1 with 6.75 ERA... Hadley went on to lose 20 the next two seasons... Jones at age 38 was the best of the lot, had two 20-win seasons and 229-217 lifetime.
You get to see Buddy Meyer, Sam Rice, Heinie Manush and Joe Cronin hitting. That's great stuff. Rice is interesting to watch. Ichiro time. Around 19:00
Great stuff! Walter Johnson's daughter, Barbara, appears about the 11 minute mark. Someone has given her a horse-shoe to give to Walter for good luck, but she is crying. We see the real Walter Johnson as he kneels down to comfort his daughter...not the stiff, on-camera Johnson from the short talk with Clark Griffith earlier. Might even be The Old Fox mostly off-camera handing Barbara the horse-shoe. Earlier, we see a comedy routine by Nick Altrock and Al Schacht, Nats coaches and "the clown princes of baseball", who were the old-time equivalent of the Racing Sausages of Pittsburgh or Washington's Racing Presidents. Teams ddn't bother assigning permanent numbers in 1931, but one of the lefties taking batting practice is Sam Rice, future Hall of Famer.
This is some really awesome footage!
Thank you for showing my hometown team.
They were 92-62 led by HOF Joe Cronin.
What interesting arm angles on those pitchers! You don't see that style today that's for sure!!
Walter Johnson had really long arms and that distinct motion.
There is an excellent chance that ol' Walter won more big league games than that entire staff combined.
Of the 4 Pitchers mentioned -
Brown 91 W
Jones 229 W
Hadley 161 W
Liska 17 W
= 498 W
Walter Johnson, 417 W
The only pitcher to have won more games than the 4 mentioned combined is Cy Young, 511 W
Interesting to see the pitching motion of a genuine submariner, Ad Liska. Looked up his record. He won 9 games the year before, but didn't stick with the team in '31. He lasted five years in the majors. When I was a kid, there were a couple of pitchers who threw about 3/4 underhand, Bruce Dal Canton and Dan Quisenberry, but no one completely underhanded like this. Bump Hadley who we also see here is the pitcher who almost killed Mickey Cochrane with a bean ball a couple of years after this. Around this time was one of the few times the Senators had a consistently very good team, and they won the pennant in 1933. I guess the depression probably forced them to sell off their best players and they went back to their accustomed spot in the second division.
A true sub-marine thrower: Dick Hyde, Washington Senators relief pitcher. Had a good year in 1958, faded out in 1959.
I don't think Dal Canton was a submarine-style pitcher, he was a knuckleballer who threw overhand. Perhaps you are thinking of Ted Abernathy? Also Horacio Pina came from "down below" with his delivery.
I got liska's autograph in my collection
Fascinating! The four pitchers at the 15:00 mark: Lloyd Brown - had the most starts with 32, went 15-14 with 3.20 ERA... Sad Sam Jones - 24 starts, 9-10 with 4.32 ERA... Bump Hadley - 11 starts but led club with 55 appearances, 11-10 with 3.06 ERA... Ed Liska - 1 start, 2 appearances, 0-1 with 6.75 ERA... Hadley went on to lose 20 the next two seasons... Jones at age 38 was the best of the lot, had two 20-win seasons and 229-217 lifetime.
You get to see Buddy Meyer, Sam Rice, Heinie Manush and Joe Cronin hitting. That's great stuff. Rice is interesting to watch. Ichiro time. Around 19:00
Damn walter Johnson,even during retirement looks no different than in his playing days!
Great stuff! Walter Johnson's daughter, Barbara, appears about the 11 minute mark. Someone has given her a horse-shoe to give to Walter for good luck, but she is crying. We see the real Walter Johnson as he kneels down to comfort his daughter...not the stiff, on-camera Johnson from the short talk with Clark Griffith earlier. Might even be The Old Fox mostly off-camera handing Barbara the horse-shoe. Earlier, we see a comedy routine by Nick Altrock and Al Schacht, Nats coaches and "the clown princes of baseball", who were the old-time equivalent of the Racing Sausages of Pittsburgh or Washington's Racing Presidents. Teams ddn't bother assigning permanent numbers in 1931, but one of the lefties taking batting practice is Sam Rice, future Hall of Famer.
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